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Ascension Skill System

2024-03-07T20:33:41Z

JGENGLISH: Added levels for Moonsedge and "The Hive" as ascension hunting grounds.

{{TOCright}}<section begin=information />The '''Ascension Skill System''' allows you to divert [[experience]] into an Ascension Training Point (ATP) pool, which can then be spent on Ascension Skills to further define your character.

'''Note: The initial release was limited to the Common tier. The Elite/Legendary tier will be released at a later date.'''

==Ascension Tiers==
Once earned, Ascension Training Points (ATPs) are spent to unlock a number of passive and active abilities. On the back end, spending ATPs is managed through the [[:Category:Player System Manager|Player System Manager]] which means that it works very similarly to [[:Category:Combat Maneuvers|Combat Maneuvers]], [[:Category:Armor Specializations|Armor Specializations]], and [[:Category:Shield Specializations|Shield Specializations]].

There are 3 tiers of abilities: Common, Elite, and Legendary.
* ''[[Ascension Skill System/Tier lists#Common|Common]]'' abilities are intended to be very generic and apply to things that most characters might be interested in. It includes things like boosts to stats, skills, and resistances. Just those 3 different areas represent 71 different abilities, since each stat/skill/damage type is a separate ability.
* ''Elite'' abilities are designed to enhance build or character archetypes (such as [[square]]s, [[semi]]s, [[pure]]s, archers, [[locksmith]]s). It may include things like rapid health/mana/stamina/spirit regeneration, elemental arrows for archers, or locksmiths detecting traps when being handed a box.
* ''Legendary'' abilities are designed for specific abilities/spells and usually tailored to a specific profession. It may include things like rangers being able to tame one of each animal companion type (and separate ability to temporarily summon them all in combat), warriors being able to manually stop a [[Berserk]], bards being able to create higher enchant sonic armaments, double attacks/spells, etc.

Characters will be required to invest a certain amount of points into the Common tier before they can access the Elite tier. They will then also be required to invest a certain amount of points into the Elite tier before they can access the Legendary tier. The abilities in each tier will get more expensive to unlock as the perceived power that those abilities represent grows. In addition, the development team intends to have a lot of chained abilities to promote certain builds. Some abilities may be exclusive of each other (so if you learn X, you can't learn Y).

==Earning ATPs==
To earn ATP, characters designate a specific experience percentage split to absorb from their field experience pool into their standard experience pool and their ascension experience pool. Any experience going into the ascension experience pool is experience that is not going into the standard experience pool and cannot be used for training in [[skill]]s. A character who would normally absorb 30 experience per pulse who has set 50% field experience going into their ascension experience pool would gain 15 standard experience and 15 ascension experience per pulse.

Every 50,000 AEXP earned yields 1 ATP, which may then be spent on Common, Elite, or Legendary skills.

Ascension was designed to enhance character post-cap development and ensure character longevity, but is not restricted to level 100 characters. Starting at level 20, characters can select up to their level as a percentage of their experience gain towards Ascension Experience (AEXP). This means at level 20, a character can select up to 20% of their field experience going into their ascension experience pool with the remainder going into their standard experience pool. The development goal is that the average character will easily earn 10 ATPs by level 100, with an additional 5 or so ATPs being possible for more dedicated characters. This is enhanced by characters' ability to earn milestone ATP (see below).

===Milestones===
Characters earn milestone Ascension Training Points (ATPs) for completing certain activities.

{| {{prettytable}}
!Number !!Name !! Details
|-
| scope="row"|1 ||A Noble Effort ||Reach level 20
|-
| scope="row"|2 ||Great Expectations ||Reach level 40
|-
| scope="row"|3 ||Master of My Fate ||Reach level 60
|-
| scope="row"|4 ||High and Mighty ||Reach level 80
|-
| scope="row"|5 ||A Grand Triumph ||Reach level 100
|-
| scope="row"|6 ||Up to the Task ||1,000,000 Bounty Points
|-
| scope="row"|7 ||Class-specific ||Differs by Class
|-
| scope="row"|8 ||Master of your Craft ||Master an Artisan Skill
|-
| scope="row"|9 ||All the World's a Stage... ||Acquire 10 Full RPAs (multipliers, orbs do not count)
|-
| scope="row"|10 ||Big Game Hunter ||Kill a Challenging Creature (Currently not available)
|}

====Class-specific====
*Cleric, Empath, Rogue, Sorcerer, Warrior, Wizard: Daily Grind -- Master a Guild Skill
*Bard: Virtuoso -- Master an Instrument
*Monk: The Art of War -- Tattoo 500,000 Motes
*Paladin: A Sacred Bond -- Fully Bond with Holy Weapon
*Ranger: Kindred Spirit -- Fully Bond with Companion

Note for F2P: While you cannot turn on conversion from Experience to Ascension Experience at level 20 as Free to Play, you do obtain Ascension Training Points(ATPs) from the [[Ascension_Skill_System#Milestones|Milestones]]. Some milestones, like mastering a guild skill, will remain impossible since you cannot join a guild as F2P.

==Spending ATPs==
The development goal is that no character should ever maximize every ability, or even more than a handful of them. With this goal in mind, some abilities can be unlocked multiple times with an increasing skill cost for each unlock and abilities may have different set costs depending upon their perceived power. The Elite and Legendary will potentially be significantly more expensive than the Common tier, but also more impactful and character defining.<section end=information />

===Common Tier===
Common abilities include +statistic, +skill, and +resistance. Statistic and skill abilities act as [[enhancives]] and stack with enhancive items, but are not subject to the enhancive limit and require no recharging. Each rank of +[[statistic]] ability is +1 stat, not bonus. Each +[[skill]] rank is +1 skill bonus. Each +[[resistance]] is +1% resist, but resist items and abilities do not stack and only use the largest bonus from all categories.

The first 5 ranks of each +stat/skill/resist Common ability cost 1 ATP each. Every 5 ranks after that, the cost increases by +1 ATP. As such, it will require 9 million Ascension experience just to reach rank 40 in any one individual Common ability, and there are over 70 of them.

==Ascension Hunting Grounds==
Post-capped hunting grounds that are significantly more difficult, but offer greater rewards for the effort compared to existing capped hunting areas. This includes better quality loot, LTE bonus experience per kill while mind is not full, and additional bonuses as Ascension is further developed.

{| {{prettytable}}
|-bgcolor=lightblue
!Area Name||Level<br>Start||Level<br>End
|-style="vertical-align:top;"
| [[:Category:Hinterwilds creatures | Hinterwilds]] || 96 || 114
|-
| [[:Category:Moonsedge creatures | Moonsedge]] || 101 || 110
|-
| [[:Category:The_Hive_creatures | The Hive]] || 102 || 112
|}

==[[Verb:ASCENSI|ASCENSION (verb)]]==
{{#section:Verb:ASCENSI|menu}}

==Resources==
*[[Ascension Skill System/Tier lists|Skill tier lists]]
*[[/saved posts|Saved posts]]
*[http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Combat,%20Magic,%20and%20Character%20Mechanics/Ascension/view Ascension Skill System Official Forums] - Official forums to discuss and brainstorm.
*[[Leafiara_(prime)/Mechanical_Musings/Ascension_Considerations|Leafiara's Ascension Considerations]]
*[https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BRCs5qFvGsCe3Ig9fSRiUi7BP0PVitRcQwIA-BJkFVw/edit?usp=sharing GS4 Ascension Ideas] - Player document to add ideas for ascension into a sortable list.

[[Category:Experience]]
[[Category:Ascension]]

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2024-03-02T00:01:33Z

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2024-03-01T23:11:11Z

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Qalinor Vaalor

2024-02-24T17:32:25Z

JGENGLISH: Linked the term "bandon" to Vaalorian_Military_Structure page for clarity of the term.

{{storynpcbox
|storyline = The Winter War 
|gender = Male
|race = Elf 
|culture = Vaalor 
|life = Alive 
|hometown = Ta'Vaalor 
|relationships =
|alias = King<br>Sovereign Commander of the Crimson Legion
|affiliation = }}
'''King Qalinor Vaalor''' is the ruler of [[House Vaalor]].
==Appearance==
===Valley of Gold, 5119===
<pre{{log3}}>
You see King Qalinor the Sovereign Commander of the Crimson Legion.
He appears to be a Vaalor Elf.
He is tall. He appears to be in the prime of life. He has dark-rimmed green eyes and fair skin. He has very short, amber hair. He has a classical nose and narrow pointed ears.
He is in good shape.
He is wearing a simple electrum circlet, a dark gold wool capelet, a dark crimson jacket with a golden wyvern embroidered on the left breast, an eahnor wyvern badge, a crisp golden silk shirt with crimson blazestar cufflinks, a gold-bound crimson silk scabbard decorated with a ferocious eahnor wyvern, a pair of dark crimson slacks with a gold stripe down each leg, and a pair of dark leather boots cuffed at the knee.
</pre>
===Court Appearance, Lormesta 5123===
<pre{{log3}}>
You see Qalinor the Sovereign Commander of the Crimson Legion.
He appears to be a Vaalor Elf.
He is tall. He appears to be in the prime of life. He has dark-rimmed green eyes and fair skin. He has very short, amber hair. He has a classical nose and narrow pointed ears.
He is in good shape.
He is wearing a simple electrum circlet, a dark crimson jacket with a golden wyvern embroidered on the left breast, a dark gold wool capelet, an eahnor wyvern badge, a crisp golden silk shirt with crimson blazestar cufflinks, a gold-bound crimson silk scabbard decorated with a ferocious eahnor wyvern, a pair of dark crimson slacks with a gold stripe down each leg, and a pair of dark leather boots cuffed at the knee.
</pre>
==Background==
In the spring of 5112 Modern Era, Qalinor Falustro Vaalor, who had been serving abroad as a member of the Golden Hawks [[Vaalorian_Military_Structure|bandon]] of the [[Crimson Legion]], was appointed Lord Legionnaire Commander after the sudden retirement of Godel Urmeil Vaalor.

Qalinor held this post until the [[House_of_Vaalor#Modern_Era | assassination]] of the previous king, [[Tyrnian]]. As the king died without an heir, stewardship of the kingdom fell to Qalinor. Qalinor reluctantly resigned his commission and took the post of Steward of [[Ta'Vaalor]] later that same year.

In 5113 M.E., Qalinor ascended the throne and became King Qalinor Vaalor Sovereign Commander of the Crimson Legion.

He is addressed by those of House Vaalor as My Sovereign; visitors to the court refer to him as Your Majesty.
===Quotes===
<pre{{log2}}>
"We are all deeply moved by the loss of our King. The city mourns, yet life cruelly continues without feeling, thought, or regard for our loss. Vaalor will press forward, Vaalor will recover, and Vaalor will rebuild. As the Witch has been slain, the gates will remain open again and daily life will return to what passes for normal during such times. Funeral arrangements for King Tyrnian Vaalor are being made and will be announced when finalized. To those of you who came to help defend our city I say, for Pride, Honor, and Glory.....words empty of meaning without action. Many of you have given them meaning by your actions. I give you my humble thanks."

~Qalinor Falustro Vaalor<br>
Steward of Ta'Vaalor (5112 M.E.)
</pre>

<pre{{log2}}>
"In light of certain recent events and defections from within the ranks of the Crimson Legion to join the abomination known as Barnom Slim, let it be known that any defecting member will suffer the following consequence. Immediate eviction from the Legion without the possibility of rejoining at a future date. Immediate revocation of citizenship within the Fortress City-State of Ta'Vaalor with no possibility of regaining said citizenship. Last, said individuals will be banished from Ta'Vaalor for a period of no less than six months or until this nasty business is at an end."

Penned by my hand, Qalinor Falustro Vaalor, the Steward of Ta'Vaalor (5113 M.E.)
</pre>

===Coronation===
<pre{{log2}}>
Leslyn asks, "Qalinor Falustro Vaalor, the Council has chosen you to lead our people, our House. To defend the Fortress with your life, to negotiate new treaties and trade agreements, and to ensure a safe and propsperous life for all [[House Vaalor]]. Do you accept these duties?"

Qalinor says, "I will serve as I always have. I humbly accept these duties."

Councilwoman Leslyn turns and gently lifts an electrum circlet from inside a case behind her. She solemly places it upon Qalinor's head.

Leslyn says, "Arise now, no longer as Qalinor Falustro Vaalor, but as King Qalinor Vaalor the Sovereign Commander of the Crimson Legion."

Qalinor stands up.

''(Everyone else kneels, Dhe'nar drink blood wine)''
</pre>
==See Also==
[https://www.play.net/gs4/news.asp?id=1073 King Tyrnian announces new Lord Legionnaire Commander!]<br>
[https://www.play.net/gs4/news.asp?id=1141 King Tyrnian Assassinated!]

[[Category:Elves]]
[[Category:Historical Figures]]
[[Category:Ta'Vaalor]]
{{Elves}}

Talk:Qalinor Vaalor

2024-02-24T07:44:13Z

JGENGLISH: questin!

Is there a page to link the word "bandon"? -- not a common English word and it was difficult to quite understand what it was supposed to mean on this page! I found it mentioned in these places:
https://gswiki.play.net/Festival_of_the_Fallen_2021
https://gswiki.play.net/Vaalorian_Military_Structure
https://gswiki.play.net/Vaalorian_Medals_and_Decorations

But the word doesn't explain itself easily. OK if I link it to one of these?

Qalinor Vaalor

2024-02-24T07:37:25Z

JGENGLISH: assassinaation > assassination typo fix

{{storynpcbox
|storyline = The Winter War 
|gender = Male
|race = Elf 
|culture = Vaalor 
|life = Alive 
|hometown = Ta'Vaalor 
|relationships =
|alias = King<br>Sovereign Commander of the Crimson Legion
|affiliation = }}
'''King Qalinor Vaalor''' is the ruler of [[House Vaalor]].
==Appearance==
===Valley of Gold, 5119===
<pre{{log3}}>
You see King Qalinor the Sovereign Commander of the Crimson Legion.
He appears to be a Vaalor Elf.
He is tall. He appears to be in the prime of life. He has dark-rimmed green eyes and fair skin. He has very short, amber hair. He has a classical nose and narrow pointed ears.
He is in good shape.
He is wearing a simple electrum circlet, a dark gold wool capelet, a dark crimson jacket with a golden wyvern embroidered on the left breast, an eahnor wyvern badge, a crisp golden silk shirt with crimson blazestar cufflinks, a gold-bound crimson silk scabbard decorated with a ferocious eahnor wyvern, a pair of dark crimson slacks with a gold stripe down each leg, and a pair of dark leather boots cuffed at the knee.
</pre>
===Court Appearance, Lormesta 5123===
<pre{{log3}}>
You see Qalinor the Sovereign Commander of the Crimson Legion.
He appears to be a Vaalor Elf.
He is tall. He appears to be in the prime of life. He has dark-rimmed green eyes and fair skin. He has very short, amber hair. He has a classical nose and narrow pointed ears.
He is in good shape.
He is wearing a simple electrum circlet, a dark crimson jacket with a golden wyvern embroidered on the left breast, a dark gold wool capelet, an eahnor wyvern badge, a crisp golden silk shirt with crimson blazestar cufflinks, a gold-bound crimson silk scabbard decorated with a ferocious eahnor wyvern, a pair of dark crimson slacks with a gold stripe down each leg, and a pair of dark leather boots cuffed at the knee.
</pre>
==Background==
In the spring of 5112 Modern Era, Qalinor Falustro Vaalor, who had been serving abroad as a member of the Golden Hawks bandon of the [[Crimson Legion]], was appointed Lord Legionnaire Commander after the sudden retirement of Godel Urmeil Vaalor.

Qalinor held this post until the [[House_of_Vaalor#Modern_Era | assassination]] of the previous king, [[Tyrnian]]. As the king died without an heir, stewardship of the kingdom fell to Qalinor. Qalinor reluctantly resigned his commission and took the post of Steward of [[Ta'Vaalor]] later that same year.

In 5113 M.E., Qalinor ascended the throne and became King Qalinor Vaalor Sovereign Commander of the Crimson Legion.

He is addressed by those of House Vaalor as My Sovereign; visitors to the court refer to him as Your Majesty.
===Quotes===
<pre{{log2}}>
"We are all deeply moved by the loss of our King. The city mourns, yet life cruelly continues without feeling, thought, or regard for our loss. Vaalor will press forward, Vaalor will recover, and Vaalor will rebuild. As the Witch has been slain, the gates will remain open again and daily life will return to what passes for normal during such times. Funeral arrangements for King Tyrnian Vaalor are being made and will be announced when finalized. To those of you who came to help defend our city I say, for Pride, Honor, and Glory.....words empty of meaning without action. Many of you have given them meaning by your actions. I give you my humble thanks."

~Qalinor Falustro Vaalor<br>
Steward of Ta'Vaalor (5112 M.E.)
</pre>

<pre{{log2}}>
"In light of certain recent events and defections from within the ranks of the Crimson Legion to join the abomination known as Barnom Slim, let it be known that any defecting member will suffer the following consequence. Immediate eviction from the Legion without the possibility of rejoining at a future date. Immediate revocation of citizenship within the Fortress City-State of Ta'Vaalor with no possibility of regaining said citizenship. Last, said individuals will be banished from Ta'Vaalor for a period of no less than six months or until this nasty business is at an end."

Penned by my hand, Qalinor Falustro Vaalor, the Steward of Ta'Vaalor (5113 M.E.)
</pre>

===Coronation===
<pre{{log2}}>
Leslyn asks, "Qalinor Falustro Vaalor, the Council has chosen you to lead our people, our House. To defend the Fortress with your life, to negotiate new treaties and trade agreements, and to ensure a safe and propsperous life for all [[House Vaalor]]. Do you accept these duties?"

Qalinor says, "I will serve as I always have. I humbly accept these duties."

Councilwoman Leslyn turns and gently lifts an electrum circlet from inside a case behind her. She solemly places it upon Qalinor's head.

Leslyn says, "Arise now, no longer as Qalinor Falustro Vaalor, but as King Qalinor Vaalor the Sovereign Commander of the Crimson Legion."

Qalinor stands up.

''(Everyone else kneels, Dhe'nar drink blood wine)''
</pre>
==See Also==
[https://www.play.net/gs4/news.asp?id=1073 King Tyrnian announces new Lord Legionnaire Commander!]<br>
[https://www.play.net/gs4/news.asp?id=1141 King Tyrnian Assassinated!]

[[Category:Elves]]
[[Category:Historical Figures]]
[[Category:Ta'Vaalor]]
{{Elves}}

Wyvern Wednesdays

2024-02-22T00:37:12Z

JGENGLISH: 2023 was labeled "2024" and shared the div collapse between the two sections and thus both expanded on click. I corrected the error and now 2023 and 2024 have their own div and names

[[image:Crestdragon small.jpg|200px|right]]
Wyvern Wednesdays is an ongoing campaign sponsored by key members of the [[Crimson Legion]] and the [[Ilyan Syndicate]] in an effort to promote community and roleplay in [[Ta'Vaalor]].

Every Wednesday, we encourage interested parties to meet at King's Court [Lich ID: 3519] around 8:50pm Elven to be directed to our destination for that week.

==Upcoming==

A Story for the Ages! Come play a storytelling game with us where improv and fun is all you need.

Come join us on the deck of Spirit of the Mists (lich: #33404) at 9pm or meet a little earlier in King's Court for a guided escort. Rules: Each person will be given a bag containing three items. Every participant will have five minutes to craft their epic tale. There's no winners or losers, just an opportunity to flex improv skills a bit but you do get to keep whatever is in the bag!

==Previous Wyvern Wednesdays==
<div class="mw-customtoggle-2024" style="overflow:auto;color:#0000FF">2024</div>
<div class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" id="mw-customcollapsible-2024">
<section begin=previous wyvern wednesdays 2024 />
{| cellpadding=4 class="alternating" style="font-size: 95%; margin: 1em; background-color: #f9f9f9; border: none; border-collapse: collapse; outline: 1px #aaa solid;"
|- style="padding: 0.3em 0.4em; background-color: #ddd; font-weight: bold; text-align: left;"
! Date
! Event
! Notes
|-
|01/03/2024
|Fishing Tournament at the Ravelin Docks
|Winners: Missoni, Gaturnius, Perigourd, Yukito
|-
|}<section end=previous wyvern wednesdays 2023 />
</div>
<div class="mw-customtoggle-2023" style="overflow:auto;color:#0000FF">2023</div>
<div class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" id="mw-customcollapsible-2023">
<section begin=previous wyvern wednesdays 2023 />
{| cellpadding=4 class="alternating" style="font-size: 95%; margin: 1em; background-color: #f9f9f9; border: none; border-collapse: collapse; outline: 1px #aaa solid;"
|- style="padding: 0.3em 0.4em; background-color: #ddd; font-weight: bold; text-align: left;"
! Date
! Event
! Notes
|-
|12/13/2023
|Socks for Soldiers
|Knitting socks at Amaranth Farmstead.
|-
|12/06/2023
|Patrolling the Sea of Mists
|Sending pirates to the depths!
|-
|11/29/2023
|Socializing in King's Court
|That's it. That's the event. Be social!
|-
|09/19/2023
|Honor the Fallen
|In lieu of no formal Festival of the Fallen this year, join us for a time of remembrance!
|-
|09/05/2023
|A Tour of Amaranth Farmstead
|Hosted by the esteemed owner, Agathilea!
|-
|08/30/2023
|Sea of Mists Patrol
|Sailing aboard the Sanguine Leviathan. Send those pirates to the depths!
|-
|08/23/2023
|Duskruin Arena
|Lord Anduin sponsored runs of the arena!
|-
|08/16/2023
|Poetry Contest
|Winners:
|-
|07/12/2023
|Cheese and Drink Pairing Contest
|Winner: Yardie
|-
|06/28/2023
|Miniature Jousting
|Winners: Alosaka, Rivienne, Thaxius, Arenglae
|-
|06/07/2023
|Pirates!
|We gathered at Mistwatch to patrol for pirates in the Sea of Mists.
|-
|05/31/2023
|Wishing Master Torbot a happy retirement
|We gathered to exchange spells and tales of Master Torbot, who unfortunately was not able to attend. We hope he knows how much the entire community appreciates him and his crew!
|-
|05/17/2023
|Bee Plus
|Attendees worked together to collect bees in order to help aid the Greengair gnomes.
|-
|05/03/2023
|Defense of Mistwatch
|The Gilded Talon Consortium welcomes all aboard their man o' war the ''Sanguine Leviathan'' to assist with combating the pirates that infest the Sea of Mists.
|-
|04/04/2023
|Investigating the Carmine Triumph, cont.
|Vandraxas provided documents for us to scour, including shipping manifests, to discover what happened to the Carmine Triumph.
|-
|03/31/2023
|Fishing Contest! And something more..
|Winners: Syari, Yardie. Not Winners: The First Mate Yanias, who suspiciously lied and is nowhere to be found! Stay tuned!
|-
|03/25/2023
|Memorial for the Carmine Triumph's crew
|(Not a Wednesday.)
|-
|03/17/2023
|Wyverns Try Friday..Again!
|Interested parties reviewed the lost ship the Carmine Triumph's manifests. The erstwhile First Mate arrives, sorrowed by the apparent loss of her comrades. A memorial is declared next week in Mistwatch.
|-
|03/10/2023
|Wyverns Try Friday
|Touring the Spirit of the Mists. Additionally, word arrives of a GTC ship lost at sea.
|-
|03/01/2023
|Noble Spirit Awards
|Winners: Yardie, Faerinn, Yavs/Yukito
|-
|02/22/2023
|A View to a Kill
|Honor and glory in the Duskruin Arena!
|-
|02/15/2023
|For Your Eyes Only - Duskruin Charades
|Winners: Tikba, Yardie, Agathelia
|-
|02/08/2023
|Tea and Sympathy: Redux
|Notes: A solemn night of reflection and solidarity at Misted Serenity in Ta'Illistim for the current state of affairs.
|-
|02/01/2023
|It's Dangerous to Go Alone
|Notes: An evening of patrols along Aradhul Road
|-
|01/25/2023
|Capped Night at the Academy Run
|Winners: Kreinos for finding the last artifact
|-
|01/18/2023
|Fishing Tournament at the Mistydeep Docks
|Winners: Orssus, Yardie and Aphaedra
|-
|01/11/2023
|Ta'Vaalor, the World and You
|A public discussion about the state of Vaalor's political concerns.
|-
|01/04/2023
|Dinner at the Gilded Pavilion
|Vaalor welcomed the Icemule Delegates in a show of hospitality.
|}<section end=previous wyvern wednesdays 2023 />
</div>
<div class="mw-customtoggle-2022" style="overflow:auto;color:#0000FF">2022</div>
<div class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" id="mw-customcollapsible-2022">
<section begin=previous wyvern wednesdays 2022 />
{| cellpadding=4 class="alternating" style="font-size: 95%; margin: 1em; background-color: #f9f9f9; border: none; border-collapse: collapse; outline: 1px #aaa solid;"
|- style="padding: 0.3em 0.4em; background-color: #ddd; font-weight: bold; text-align: left;"
! Date
! Event
! Notes
|-
|12/28/2022
|Gilded Talon Patrol
|Guarding the Sea of Mists from pirates and ghost ships.
|-
|12/27/2022
|Bonus Tuesday: Snowball fight!
|Winners: Everyone!
|-
|12/21/2022
|Snow Sculpture Contest
|Winner: Vyctus
|-
|12/14/2022
|Socks for Soldiers
|Continuing the long-standing tradition of supplying knitted socks to active Legionnaires.
|-
|11/9/2022
|A Welcome Respite
|Casual gathering for darts and drinks at the Hunter's Respite in the Ravelin.
|-
|11/2/2022
|Bonfire Gathering
|Casting away what we wish to leave behind as Winter approaches.
|-
|10/12/2022
|Naidem Fishing Tournament
|Winners: Yukito, Missoni, Yardie
|-
|09/28/2022
|Know Your Neighbor
|Week 4
|-
|09/21/2022
|Know Your Neighbor
|Week 3
|-
|09/14/2022
|Know Your Neighbor
|Week 2
|-
|09/07/2022
|Know Your Neighbor
|Week 1
|-
|08/17/2022
|Poker Dice
|Playing poker dice with Duskruin vouchers for all winners!
|-
|08/10/2022
|Summer Fishing Tournament
|Winners: Length - Tabubu; Weight - Beldannon; Number - Beldannon
|-
|08/03/2022
|Bonfire gathering at Hunter's Respite
|Shanks are for cooking.
|-
|07/27/2022
|Ice cream social at Misted Serenity
|I screamed, you screamed, we all screamed for ice cream.
|-
|07/20/2022
|Northern Ardenai Spiritcaller/Taking Root Conclusion
|Wedding is OFF!
|-
|07/06/2022
|Model (Not toy!) Jousting Tournament
|Champion: Alosaka
|-
|06/22/2022
|Ardenai Weaving
|Hosted by Solvei Aeldrish Ardenai
|-
|06/15/2022
|Categor'Aies
|Theme: Mounts and Riding
|-
|06/08/2022
|Tales of Jousting and Horsemanship
|Agathilea won a prize for best dressed, and Alosaka for his story although it did not include horses.
|-
|06/01/2022
|Discussion of Summer Plans
|Tied In With [[Taking Root (Player-Run Storyline)]]
|-
|04/13/2022
|Spring Fishing Tourney
|Cancelled due to lack of participation
|-
|03/23/2022
|Categor'Aies
|Theme: Springtime
|-
|03/16/2022
|Darts Practice
|Casual darts and conversation at the Hunter's Respite
|-
|03/09/2022
|Tiles of Chance
|Win Lord Anduin's Money! (Nobody did. *laughs in one-percenter*)
|-
|02/23/2022
|Enemy Mine
|Theme: Duskruin Arena
|-
|02/16/2022
|Categor'Aies
|Theme: War (Duskruin Arena)
|-
|02/09/2022
|Categor'Aies
|Theme: Love (Voaris and Laethe)
|-
|01/19/2022
|Myths, stories, and conspiracy theories
|Is there a story or myth that you know is probably not true but you still love? Are there any conspiracy theories that you feel have some merit?
|-
|01/12/2022
|Sack of Lies
|Winners: Arenglae, Agathilea
|-
|01/05/2022
|Fortune Telling
|Uniana reading the Nalfein Black Rose Deck; Silima reading a Seer's Crystal.
|}<section end=previous wyvern wednesdays 2022 />
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<div class="mw-customtoggle-2021" style="overflow:auto;color:#0000FF">2021</div>
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! Event
! Notes
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|12/29/2021
|Darts Tournamanent - Killer
|Winner: Corlyne
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|12/22/2021
|Categor'Aies
|Theme: Winter Festivities
|-
|12/15/2021
|Sock It Toe Me
|Knitting socks as Solstice gifts to Legionnaires
|-
|12/08/2021
|Vaalorian Vineyards
|Wine discussion and tasting at Stacked Vintners
|-
|12/01/2021
|Fishing Tournament
|Winners: Kayse, Yardie, Vyctus
|-
|11/24/2021
|What nourishes you?
|Tea and roleplaying to answer the aforementioned prompt
|-
|11/17/2021
|To Be Honest!
|Game hosted by Uniana Le'Gondren
|-
|11/10/2021
|Apple Harvest
|Harvesting apples and roleplaying in the orchard
|-
|11/03/2021
|OOC Ta'Vaalor Meeting
|An unofficial OOC meeting to discuss RP in Ta'Vaalor
|-
|10/13/2021
|Categor'Aies
|Theme: Ebon Gate
|-
|09/08/2021
|Imbibe and Inspire
|Lord Teveriel Anduin hosts storytelling about conquest and bravery.
|-
|08/25/2021
|Stocking the Ballistas
|Helping the Crimson Legion chop trees and cut wood for Vaalor's defenses.
|-
|}<section end=previous wyvern wednesdays 2021 />
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[[Category:Ta'Vaalor]][[Category:Player-run events]]

User talk:JGENGLISH

2024-02-10T03:21:46Z

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User talk:JGENGLISH

2024-02-10T03:21:35Z

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Oro (platinum)

2024-01-30T00:01:36Z

JGENGLISH:

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| race = Giantman
| culture = Wsalamir Arctic Clan
| class = Bard
| profession = Merchant
| religion = Spiritual
| word = Curious
| disposition = Considerate
| demeanor = Warm
| ptrait = Adventurous
| strait = Inquisitive
| flaw = Reckless, Avarice
| strength = Communication
| weakness = Regret
| habits = Smoking, drinking, stuttering in thought
| hobbies = Reading books and maps, exploring dangerous places, browsing pawnshops and old stores for antiquities and treasures.
| soft = Animals, a warm reading nook, money.
| likes = Wine, cigars, well-made clothing, art, old books, writing, record-keeping, helping someone.
| dislikes = Trolls, Giants, Waste
| fears = Failure, disappointment
| loyalties = Unclear
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'''Oro''' (age approximately 26, birth date unknown) is a self-professed merchant from the farthest reaches of the North, claiming ancestry of the [[Wsalamir Arctic Clan]]. Friendly and verbose, the [[Giantkin]] is uncharacteristic of the stories of his people. He appeared in Eorgaen, 5112, in [[Icemule Trace]] -- recounting a long journey from the reaches north of [[Pinefar]]. Spending over a year travelling the cities of [[Elanith]], he proved a voracious study and student. He frequented the halls of the [[Elven Nations]], their libraries, and their workshops. His close confidant and friend, Nilandia Liserna, a sylvan mystic, empath, and scholar aided him in his education. In the year of 5113 he departed the southern cities of Elanith, saddled with new knowledge of the world, many treasures, and a caravan of goods. His expedition beyond [[Aenatumgana|Mt. Aenatumgana]] was, he claimed, an effort to connect his people with the modern world. Ten years hence, much the way he had come, he returned in the month of Eorgaen, 5123. In Lormesta, 5124 he founded Oro's Expedition Company (OEC) through investments that had matured during his absence. Leveraging the reach and finances of the OEC he scours Elanith for relics and artifacts of interest, lore, and information. To what end, remains unclear.

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== Recent Occurrences and Field Notes ==

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===Malicious Mist in Ta'Vaalor===
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[[File:Vaalor mist oro.png|thumb|border|left|top|upright=0.50|A haunting mist on the Mistydeep River<br>Artist: Created by the uploader with Midjourney ]]
''A long and densely written entry within a timeworn leather journal in Oro's possession''

'''16th of Eorgaen, 5123'''

An accounting by Oro of the unusual happenings of [[Ta'Vaalor|Ta'vaalor]] potentially in connection with the missing Saxe family member, Thanela Saxe.

Rumors swirled this past week in [[Solhaven]] during the Koar Church fundraiser. Which are true or unfounded remains up for speculation. Notable accounts of arguments and accusations of inhuman behavior among the Saxe siblings was shared by individuals who wish to remain anonymous, during the local art exhibit. Further accounts and rumors suggesting that sanguine magic or other biologically derived enchantments may find cause in the absence of Lady Saxe. Hard evidence remained thin.

Today, an unusually thick and malign mist was observed rolling across the docks of [[Ta'Vaalor]] on the banks of the aptly named [[Mistydeep River]].

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Myself and others arrived soon after word had spread of the phenomenon, but as soon as it began, it had dissipated. Regrouping in King's Court we prepared to depart when Lady [[Cydris]] arrived, choking for breath and clearly shaken. Stricken by an intense thirst, we aided her in resting. With a racing heart beat, uneven breathing, and tremors she soon succumbed to a form of catatonia. Staring toward the southern docks, she murmured about "a light", "a woman", and the "sound of laughter". She rose to leave, but was impaired from doing so by those present at the time.

Her recovery came swiftly, but residual effects, including sudden weakness, violent outbursts, and an odd aggressiveness for her nature ensued. Weakness persisted and she was taken to rest.

Notably, [[Cydris]] described the woman in her vision. A red-haired woman, described similarly to accounts of the missing Lady Saxe. [[Cydris]] described the visions, and experience, as wholly unfriendly and malign and sensed danger in the vision. I will seek a more complete accounting from her, once she has fully recovered.

The remaining of us surveyed the docks where the Mist had been most prominent, and to which direction [[Cydris]]<nowiki/>had called. Drawing in an actively hooked fishing line from the dock, [[Oliviero (platinum)|Oliviero]] discovered a freshly severed arm and a tangle of dark hair. Before we could further examine the evidence, a dock worker kicked the corporeal remnant into the river. [[Vyrshkana (Platinum)|Vyrshkana]] reported the incident, and obstruction of the dockhand in our investigation, to the dock foreman -- though little came of the effort.

Lord [[Virion (platinum)|Virion]]... ''obvious smudging is visible across the page after Virion's name, a shadow of ink spelling out various titles that were summarily expunged dirties the parchment...'' reported our findings to the proper authorities of the fortress.

On a personal note, I have borne witness to many hallucinations, possessions, and other forms of catatonia derived from spiritual possession -- whether real, imagined, induced, or otherwise. Rarely have I seen such a powerful physical response in the host as was observed with Lady [[Cydris]]. Be wary of further such encounters with thick, opaque mist. Whether derived of magic, alchemy, poison, or natural phenomenon is unknown, but it clearly had an effect on Lady [[Cydris]]. All others experiencing this mist have not, at this time, exhibited symptoms.

'''''Postulates:''''' Elven susceptibility? Magical alignment?

'''''Additional observations:''''' Many children congregated at the Court suddenly after the visions ceased. Dock worker not surprised by arm? Common occurrence? Investigate river upstream. Can Mist be bottled? Re-exposure sensitivity? Failed to collect sample. Saxe family and mist, mental magic, other known abilities?

As faithfully as capable,
Oro

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===Discovering the Ruins of Kragnek-Dzu===
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[[File:Teras_Isle_Discovery_of_Kragnek_Dzu_(Oro).png|thumb|border|center|top|upright=1.5|Map annotations by Oro, original artwork by Alosaka, edited with permission]]
''A stack of fire-charred pages have been added to the timeworn leather journal Oro carries with him. Maps scribbled over with red ink, pages scrawled with notes, drawings, and diagrams. On one begins a passage summarizing the contents.''

11th of Lormesta, 5124

As the sun fell below the western horizon an explosion rocked the continent of Elanith. Smoke and fire erupted from Teras Isle, shards of glaes and rock showering Kharam Dhzu.

I arrived to Teras Isle soon after the eruption. Locating a band of known adventurers, some members of my previous expeditions, I followed them to a battle raging outside the northern gates of Kharam Dhzu on the crossroads where Hog's Pen Tavern is located. When I arrived waves of Gigas unlike any I had previously seen in the northern reaches of Elanith were being slain in waves by Jaired, Daenamaryllis, Vyrshkana, Doj, Deleu, Bwa, and Korgath. Blood soaked the roads leading to the city. The band was being led by a dwarf I had never met, and who introduced himself as Voregrek Borthuum, Prince of Kharam Dhzu.

Our evening was about to spiral into chaos, volcano eruptions, demons, and the discovery of a lost dwarven city!

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Following the battle, the Gigas invaders retreated north along the Muagh river. Jaired Delone gave chase, scouring the eye of V'tull, but to no avail. The Gigas forces had retreated into the jungles along the banks of the Muagh. Discussion amongst ourselves revealed numerous signs that the Gigas were followers of V'tull. We postulated on where their encampment may be, attempting to decided how best to give chase. At that moment, Maros arrived with word that Artisan Gamordi, a clansmen of the Prince, wished to discuss the situation urgently with him back in Kharam Dzu.

Our small party split, some seeking the Gigas (who, admittedly, shouldn't have been all that hard to track -- but the jungle keeps many secrets), while the rest joined Prince Voregrek in the Clan Hall. Gamordi suggested we raft upon the Muagh River in search of the remaining Gigas. He quickly fashioned a number of rickety vessels behind Bentock's Adventurer's Rest on the east bank of the river. Joining us at the banks was a smoky amorphous humanoid shape that... declared he was a Maker of Chains. Not uncommon, blacksmiths in Kharam Dzu. Notably, for a smith, he was rather capable in combat.

We rafted the river and discovered that it had split into a northwestern and eastern route. These rafts remain, and I continue to explore the area. The western approach contained a blood-soaked cave housing a gigantic skeleton suspended on glaes chains. The eastern approach led us directly to a fortified encampment swarming with Gigas! We battered the barricade down and burst into a ruin similar to something Gamordi had described -- a place lost to the jungle known as Kragnek-Dzu. The ruins were of obvious dwarven design, though old, and abandoned. It appeared that the Gigas had made their encampment for invasion here in these ruins.

We suffered heavily casualties at the hands of the Gigas on the promenades within the fortress, but recovered quickly. In exploring the fortress, we noted a deformed mithril anvil of substantial size in what appeared to be a rubble-strewn marketplace. The entire area was bubbling with pyroclastic rock and volcanic eruptions. Among them was a massive boulder of dark, glaes-veined basalt. Climbing atop the boulder, I immediately realized it was draining the mana from the area. Spells fizzled, songs failed, magic of all forms seemed incapable of manifesting on the rock.

We were immediately attacked by the boulders resident, an enormous fire giant taller than any I have faced. Wielding a scintillating obsidian claidhmore, he furiously assaulted our cohort. When slain, his body would melt into molten magma, sink into the boulder, and he would reform moments later healed and energized. Screaming praise to V'tull, and demanding blood for his god, he began to challenge our party to duels. Each of his defeats was brief and his renewal swift.

After the fifth.. or sixth slaying, I lost count, I thought it wise to remove the giants corpse from the regenerative boulder. While our assembled company was defeating him easily, attrition would eventually be our downfall. Or more Gigas may surround the boulder. Grabbing his form before he was able to melt, I hauled him off the boulder and onto the promenade. The giant immediately decayed to ash.. and then hell broke loose. Magma erupted from all sides, immediately killing me and maiming others. I was eventually healed and resurrected by the town cleric.

[[File:Vathor_sketch_oro.png|thumb|border|left|top|upright=0.5|Vathor sketch by Oro]]
Upon returning to what we now know is likely Kragenk-Dzu, I was greeted by an army of diving vathor! Flying demons, whose demonic essence deflected all manner of magic. I provide here a rough sketch. Should you see such creatures and not be at the pinnacle of fighting tenacity I'd strongly advise running away. Needless to say, I was slain, brutally. But bore witness to the amazing prowess by our assembled party. They slew many of the demons before we were ultimately forced to escape with many injured and deceased.

Reporting back to Gamordi, he seems convinced the ruins we uncovered were indeed Kragenk-Dzu. He advised that the boulder, and the anvil we had spotted, were part of an ancient and magical forging center of the city.

Preparations are being made to return and hopefully recover more of the lost dwarven city in the near future.

To the best of my recollection,
Oro

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===Luck For Its Own Sake===
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[[File:Luckonthelake.png|thumb|border|left|top|upright=0.50|Skipping rocks on Lake Marliese<br>Artist: Created by the uploader with Midjourney ]]
''A hastily written note on a half scrap of paper is shoved into the binding of a timeworn leather journal in Oro's possession''

A down trodden minstrel named Nolec happened upon a magical stone near Lake Marliese that defied all natural laws of movement. He guided a number of us around Wehnimer's to investigate its properties. In coaxing it with song I revealed that the object was magically imbued. The bard led us to the temple of Cholen in Solhaven, where he summarily suffused the stone into a pair of socks. Before his rapid and magical disappearance, he imparted upon me the ability to foist luck and good fortune on whomsoever I choose. Lovely.

Oro

''The bottom edge of the page is stained a dark amber. In a different ink beside the stain a brief and sloppily written addendum reads. ''

All knaves.. useless Kings.
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== Past Expeditions ==
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===Trade Expedition to Nielira Harbor===
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===Investigating the Kiramon Hive Emerging in Zul Logoth===
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== Personal History ==









== Discovered Artifacts and Studied Relics ==

User talk:JGENGLISH

2024-01-29T23:33:59Z

JGENGLISH:

==Permissions==
[[User:halem20|Halem20]] has my permission to edit any Wiki content related to [[Oro_(platinum)|Oro]]. [[User:JGENGLISH|JGENGLISH]] ([[User talk:JGENGLISH|talk]]) 17:33, 29 January 2024 (CST)

==Modified Artwork==
Hi there, JGENGLISH. You recently uploaded an image, [[:File:Teras Isle Discovery of Kragnek Dzu (Oro).png]], which appears to be modified from an image originally created by another artist, [[:File:Teras Isle Regional final.jpg]]. I do see that you included in the caption a note about the original image. Can you please clarify if the original artist gave you permission to modify their image? I don't see that remarked on anywhere in your upload notes/captions. While the image does depict a map, it is considered artwork for the purposes of [[Gswiki:Policy#Copyrights]] and is protected under that section. If I don't hear back from you within 7 days, I will flag the image for moderator review. You can respond either here or on my user talk page. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 11:15, 17 January 2024 (CST)

Response from JGENGLISH:
Hello [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]]! Thanks, sorry. Yes, Aloska (JSEVERNS) gave me permission to edit their original artwork. I will add this to the image description. Should I also add it to the caption?
:Thank you very much for confirming! Yes, information like this will need to be reflected in the caption, too. If you have not done so already, I'll adjust it this morning. Also, for future reference, you can automatically apply a "signature" via wiki code, <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. While it isn't necessary, it can be useful when communicating on talk pages. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:06, 23 January 2024 (CST)
::Thank you for adjusting it as necessary. Much appreciated. I will be sure to append and copy that format for any additional artwork I adapt in the future. 09:35, 24 January 2024 (CST)[[User:JGENGLISH|JGENGLISH]] (here's me trying signaturing)

==Images at Risk for Deletion==
Hello, JGENGLISH. You recently uploaded two images to the wiki, [[:File:Oro.png]] and [[:File:Oro bw.png]], that are missing some information required by [[Gswiki:Policy]]. GSwiki now has a new policy for all images uploaded to it. Please see [[Gswiki:Policy#Copyrights]] for more information about that policy and the requirement to note image creators, what AI imaging software was used (if any), and if permission was granted by the creator to upload the image to the wiki. This information needs to be on the images as well as on all articles using them. In addition, all images using AI software in their creation are required to be included in [[:Category:AI artwork]]. To add that text to the image file, you will need to click on "Edit Source" on the image file itself and add <nowiki>[[Category:AI artwork]]</nowiki>. All articles displaying the images will need to include that same information in their captions, whether that is part of the characterprofile template's caption field or appended to a thumbnail display, such as <nowiki>[[File:Oro bw.png|120x120px|thumb|caption text]]</nowiki>. For these two images specifically:
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'''If that information is not added within 7 days, the images will be deleted from the wiki.''' Please do not remove the <nowiki>{{moddelete}}</nowiki> template from the images. Another moderator or I will remove that template after your updates have been reviewed to ensure that they meet [[Gswiki:Policy]] requirements. If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for images, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926 Discord forum's wiki thread]. Thank you for understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:50, 4 January 2024 (CST)

User talk:JGENGLISH

2024-01-29T23:31:28Z

JGENGLISH:

==Permissions==
halem20 has my permission to edit any Wiki content related to Oro.

==Modified Artwork==
Hi there, JGENGLISH. You recently uploaded an image, [[:File:Teras Isle Discovery of Kragnek Dzu (Oro).png]], which appears to be modified from an image originally created by another artist, [[:File:Teras Isle Regional final.jpg]]. I do see that you included in the caption a note about the original image. Can you please clarify if the original artist gave you permission to modify their image? I don't see that remarked on anywhere in your upload notes/captions. While the image does depict a map, it is considered artwork for the purposes of [[Gswiki:Policy#Copyrights]] and is protected under that section. If I don't hear back from you within 7 days, I will flag the image for moderator review. You can respond either here or on my user talk page. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 11:15, 17 January 2024 (CST)

Response from JGENGLISH:
Hello [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]]! Thanks, sorry. Yes, Aloska (JSEVERNS) gave me permission to edit their original artwork. I will add this to the image description. Should I also add it to the caption?
:Thank you very much for confirming! Yes, information like this will need to be reflected in the caption, too. If you have not done so already, I'll adjust it this morning. Also, for future reference, you can automatically apply a "signature" via wiki code, <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. While it isn't necessary, it can be useful when communicating on talk pages. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:06, 23 January 2024 (CST)
::Thank you for adjusting it as necessary. Much appreciated. I will be sure to append and copy that format for any additional artwork I adapt in the future. 09:35, 24 January 2024 (CST)[[User:JGENGLISH|JGENGLISH]] (here's me trying signaturing)

==Images at Risk for Deletion==
Hello, JGENGLISH. You recently uploaded two images to the wiki, [[:File:Oro.png]] and [[:File:Oro bw.png]], that are missing some information required by [[Gswiki:Policy]]. GSwiki now has a new policy for all images uploaded to it. Please see [[Gswiki:Policy#Copyrights]] for more information about that policy and the requirement to note image creators, what AI imaging software was used (if any), and if permission was granted by the creator to upload the image to the wiki. This information needs to be on the images as well as on all articles using them. In addition, all images using AI software in their creation are required to be included in [[:Category:AI artwork]]. To add that text to the image file, you will need to click on "Edit Source" on the image file itself and add <nowiki>[[Category:AI artwork]]</nowiki>. All articles displaying the images will need to include that same information in their captions, whether that is part of the characterprofile template's caption field or appended to a thumbnail display, such as <nowiki>[[File:Oro bw.png|120x120px|thumb|caption text]]</nowiki>. For these two images specifically:
* [[:File:Oro.png]] - Image file is missing who generated the image, if permission was given to upload it (if that person is not you), the name of the AI imaging software, and <nowiki>[[Category:AI artwork]]</nowiki>. The article featuring the image ([[Oro (platinum)]]) is missing who generated the image and if permission was given to upload it (if that person is not you).
* [[:File:Oro bw.png]] - Image file is missing who generated the image, if permission was given to upload it (if that person is not you), the name of the AI imaging software, and <nowiki>[[Category:AI artwork]]</nowiki>. The article featuring the image ([[Cast of characters]]) is missing all of that same information.
'''If that information is not added within 7 days, the images will be deleted from the wiki.''' Please do not remove the <nowiki>{{moddelete}}</nowiki> template from the images. Another moderator or I will remove that template after your updates have been reviewed to ensure that they meet [[Gswiki:Policy]] requirements. If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for images, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926 Discord forum's wiki thread]. Thank you for understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:50, 4 January 2024 (CST)

Daenamaryllis (platinum)

2024-01-28T00:02:12Z

JGENGLISH:

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I'm presenting this information OOC to catch anyone that is interested up on Daenamaryllis's growth as a character and why she is the way she currently is. If you look at Daena and are familiar with the arkati, I haven't been subtle about Daena's role model arkati.

I created Daena in January of 2019. She's been a favorite and I've enjoyed the hybrid nature of empaths quite a bit.

I assume there are lots of little villages throughout the world and Daena grew up from one such village located somewhere between Wehnimer's Landing and Solhaven. She came of age to marry and rather than being forced into marriage she ran away to Wehnimer's Landing. She had a talent for healing and managed to earn coin as an adventurer. Around the same time, a pair of twins named Heliantha and Roseantha showed up in Wehnimer's Landing, and Daena ended up forming a party with them to take on tasks from the guild.

Daena met Leiana during 2019 and the innkeeper's daughter turned adventurer made a huge impression on Daena as she believed that Leiana was just like her in being born to one life, but wanting something entirely different. Everyone liked Leiana too and while Daena had the companionship of the twins, she wanted the same level of attention that Leiana received from nearly everyone. Leiana had also awakened to some fairly fantastical powers and Daena became convinced that the way to get what you wanted out of life was by having power. Leiana was well-liked because of her strength of character and she was genuinely fun to be around. Daena was blinded to the fact that Leiana's personality was what won people over and not Leiana's power.

Throughout the course of events/storylines throughout 2019 - 2020, Daena's admiration for Leiana turned to jealousy. She felt that Leiana was wasting her power and squandered it. Leiana had the power to rule and protect all of Wehnimer's Landing, but she seemed to be more interested in silly adventurers and her new husband, Jaired. Daena tried to point out Leiana's flaws to various people and of course, this in turn ostracized Daena from many in the community of Wehnimer's Landing. Things came to a head when Leiana had enough of Daena's jealousy and attacked her on the Muse. Daena retaliated and Jaired very promptly ended that scuffle by beheading Daena. Those present thought Leiana was in the right for attacking Daena and no one thought much of her death. Her corpse was animated by Berbels and paraded around and generally mocked. Bottom line, something in Daena snapped as a result of this incident.

Daena spent the next two months re-inventing herself into a "power by any and all means" individual. She used the mentalist aspects of the empathic arts to turn the twins into obedient servants prior to Ebon Gate 2020. During Ebon Gate she hired a porter, Phocosoen the Giantman Bard, as she was interested in him as a test subject. She ended up using alchemy and the empathic arts to transform him into a minotaur (Yes this is the bloodrune minotaur cloak, but I thought it was a neat RP to justify wearing it going forward so cut me some slack). While successful at transforming Phocosen, she wasn't able to enslave him like the twins (My personal take is that allowing an empath to heal you repeatedly over years leaves you susceptible to mind control from them if you also trust them).

Leiana worked with others to bring down Oreena Januth. Daena sought to hinder her efforts and used the twins to do so, but in the end, Oreena was doomed by her failure and whatever organization she worked for was going to kill her off either way. Daena provided Leiana with the proof she needed to have Oreena arrested and an uneasy truce was formed between the two.

Daena is still obsessed with Leiana and delights in what she perceives as tormenting Leiana. It is not enough to simply kill her and be done with it. Daena wants to see Leiana brought low and feel the ridicule and scorn of those who used to revere her. She wants to see the look on Jaired's face when this happens.

[[Category:Platinum player characters]]

User:JGENGLISH

2024-01-28T00:00:45Z

JGENGLISH:

Player of [[Oro (platinum)]]

File:Daenamaryllis portrait-1.png

2024-01-28T00:00:01Z

JGENGLISH: Character portrait of Daenamaryllis (Platinum). This is an AI generated image made using Midjourney version 6. It was prompted by and generated by JGENGLISH Category:AI artwork

== Summary ==
Character portrait of Daenamaryllis (Platinum). This is an AI generated image made using Midjourney version 6. It was prompted by and generated by [[JGENGLISH]]
[[Category:AI artwork]]

File talk:Arlise portrait.png

2024-01-26T20:02:07Z

JGENGLISH:

Looking to have the two images uploaded by me on this file removed and the newest remain
{{delete}} [[User:JGENGLISH|JGENGLISH]] ([[User talk:JGENGLISH|talk]]) 14:02, 26 January 2024 (CST)

File talk talk:Arlise portrait.png

2024-01-26T20:00:49Z

JGENGLISH:

Could I please have the two images I uploaded for this file removed, only the most recent is now relevant. [[User:JGENGLISH|JGENGLISH]] ([[User talk:JGENGLISH|talk]]) 14:00, 26 January 2024 (CST)

File talk talk:Arlise portrait.png

2024-01-26T20:00:34Z

JGENGLISH: Created page with "Could I please have the two images I uploaded for this file removed, only the most recent is now relevant. JGENGLISH ~~~~"

Could I please have the two images I uploaded for this file removed, only the most recent is now relevant. [[JGENGLISH]] [[User:JGENGLISH|JGENGLISH]] ([[User talk:JGENGLISH|talk]]) 14:00, 26 January 2024 (CST)

File talk:Arlise portrait.png

2024-01-24T18:23:38Z

JGENGLISH: Created page with "Can I please request that the original image of this file be deleted and the newest image left in place? {{delete}}"

Can I please request that the original image of this file be deleted and the newest image left in place?
{{delete}}

File:Arlise portrait.png

2024-01-24T15:42:54Z

JGENGLISH: JGENGLISH uploaded a new version of File:Arlise portrait.png

== Summary ==
Character portrait of Arlise (Platinum). This is an AI generated image made using Midjourney version 6. It was prompted by and generated by the uploader
[[Category:AI artwork]]

File:Vyrshkana.png

2024-01-24T15:39:16Z

JGENGLISH: == Summary == A color portrait of Vyrshkana (Platinum). This is an AI generated image made using Midjourney version 6. It was prompted by and generated by the uploader. Category:AI artwork

== Summary ==
A color portrait of Vyrshkana (Platinum). This is an AI generated image made using Midjourney version 6. It was prompted by and generated by the uploader. [[Category:AI artwork]]

User:JGENGLISH

2024-01-24T15:37:35Z

JGENGLISH: creating a page for my username

Player of Oro on Platinum.

User talk:JGENGLISH

2024-01-24T15:35:59Z

JGENGLISH: /* Modified Artwork */

==Modified Artwork==
Hi there, JGENGLISH. You recently uploaded an image, [[:File:Teras Isle Discovery of Kragnek Dzu (Oro).png]], which appears to be modified from an image originally created by another artist, [[:File:Teras Isle Regional final.jpg]]. I do see that you included in the caption a note about the original image. Can you please clarify if the original artist gave you permission to modify their image? I don't see that remarked on anywhere in your upload notes/captions. While the image does depict a map, it is considered artwork for the purposes of [[Gswiki:Policy#Copyrights]] and is protected under that section. If I don't hear back from you within 7 days, I will flag the image for moderator review. You can respond either here or on my user talk page. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 11:15, 17 January 2024 (CST)

Response from JGENGLISH:
Hello [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]]! Thanks, sorry. Yes, Aloska (JSEVERNS) gave me permission to edit their original artwork. I will add this to the image description. Should I also add it to the caption?
:Thank you very much for confirming! Yes, information like this will need to be reflected in the caption, too. If you have not done so already, I'll adjust it this morning. Also, for future reference, you can automatically apply a "signature" via wiki code, <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. While it isn't necessary, it can be useful when communicating on talk pages. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:06, 23 January 2024 (CST)
::Thank you for adjusting it as necessary. Much appreciated. I will be sure to append and copy that format for any additional artwork I adapt in the future. 09:35, 24 January 2024 (CST)[[User:JGENGLISH|JGENGLISH]] (here's me trying signaturing)

==Images at Risk for Deletion==
Hello, JGENGLISH. You recently uploaded two images to the wiki, [[:File:Oro.png]] and [[:File:Oro bw.png]], that are missing some information required by [[Gswiki:Policy]]. GSwiki now has a new policy for all images uploaded to it. Please see [[Gswiki:Policy#Copyrights]] for more information about that policy and the requirement to note image creators, what AI imaging software was used (if any), and if permission was granted by the creator to upload the image to the wiki. This information needs to be on the images as well as on all articles using them. In addition, all images using AI software in their creation are required to be included in [[:Category:AI artwork]]. To add that text to the image file, you will need to click on "Edit Source" on the image file itself and add <nowiki>[[Category:AI artwork]]</nowiki>. All articles displaying the images will need to include that same information in their captions, whether that is part of the characterprofile template's caption field or appended to a thumbnail display, such as <nowiki>[[File:Oro bw.png|120x120px|thumb|caption text]]</nowiki>. For these two images specifically:
* [[:File:Oro.png]] - Image file is missing who generated the image, if permission was given to upload it (if that person is not you), the name of the AI imaging software, and <nowiki>[[Category:AI artwork]]</nowiki>. The article featuring the image ([[Oro (platinum)]]) is missing who generated the image and if permission was given to upload it (if that person is not you).
* [[:File:Oro bw.png]] - Image file is missing who generated the image, if permission was given to upload it (if that person is not you), the name of the AI imaging software, and <nowiki>[[Category:AI artwork]]</nowiki>. The article featuring the image ([[Cast of characters]]) is missing all of that same information.
'''If that information is not added within 7 days, the images will be deleted from the wiki.''' Please do not remove the <nowiki>{{moddelete}}</nowiki> template from the images. Another moderator or I will remove that template after your updates have been reviewed to ensure that they meet [[Gswiki:Policy]] requirements. If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for images, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926 Discord forum's wiki thread]. Thank you for understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:50, 4 January 2024 (CST)

User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET

2024-01-20T04:31:14Z

JGENGLISH: /* Modified Artwork */

== Have a question or comment? ==

HOST-GSKEBECHET (talk | contribs) (Added back in the OTS analyze and rearranged a couple things to conform with item script style guide.)

You added back in the Tier 1 analyze in the OTS section. [[User:GS4ALASTIR|GS4ALASTIR]] ([[User talk:GS4ALASTIR|talk]]) 10:46, 25 April 2023 (CDT)

Hello, I added a line that Stormyrain gave permission to use the image of the Sisters on the wiki [[User:STACYWALTER|STACYWALTER]] ([[User talk:STACYWALTER|talk]]) 06:16, 12 October 2023 (CDT)

You're doing great work. Thank you, I appreciate it. [[User:VANKRASN39|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39|talk]]) 11:42, 7 November 2023 (CST)
:Thank you! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]])

Hi, I got your message about the copywrite problems with my image. I created the image myself using Artflow.ai but I have literally no idea how to comply with your request and I can barely even understand it. I cant find the Discord page you linked to either. Could you please walk me through this step by step? I have almost no skill at coding or using the wiki...I created my page by simple cut and paste and rewriting.

Thank you,
Toxyrox

PS if it would be easier on Discord, my username there is Avondell.
:Thank you very much! I have responded on your talk page.[[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:37, 15 November 2023 (CST)

== Cross-posts of user:talk notes ==

=== Animalistic Spirit Shield iteminfo ===

[[User_talk:GS4ALASTIR]]: Hi, Alastir. Thank you very much for contributing so many different things to the various item script pages! Just as a head's up, I rolled back one of your changes made a while ago to the [[Animalistic_Spirit_Shield|Animalistic Spirit Shield]] page, where you had accidentally removed the iteminfo section. I have added back in the iteminfo section so that it properly displays; it's actually an important template to keep in place for scripted items as it helps populate other categories on the wiki, making it easier to cross-reference related things. Thanks for understanding! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:55, 21 June 2022 (CDT)

=== Category: Marked for Deletion ===

[[User talk:WINTERDAWN]]: Thank you for all of the contributions you've made toward archiving all of the Elanthian Journals! Just as a reminder, please use <nowiki>[[Category:Marked for Deletion]]</nowiki> on a page when you would like it deleted. I went ahead and deleted the Journal pages you had cleared and replaced with the text, "Things to be deleted by Simu Admin." because your intent appeared to be very clear, however using the Category instead would make it easier for any mods to see those pages as part of weekly patrols for page deletion requests. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:39, 7 July 2022 (CDT)
:Shoot. I was doing {{category... sorry about that! Also, sorry about the extra set of deletes that I created. I hope it wasn't too time consuming :| [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 13:01, 7 July 2022 (CDT)
::That's okay! It wasn't too time consuming. I just wanted to remind you about it for the future. Thank you again for all of your contributions![[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:37, 8 July 2022 (CDT)

=== Requesting Clarification ===

[[User_talk:FIREPHOENIX]]: Thank you for all of your contributions to preserving the-ever expanding game lore! I have a question regarding your recent edit to [[Ithzir_language_(essay)]]. Do you have the original author's permission to upload "Part 5" to the essay? I did not see you noting that anywhere on the essay's talk page ([[Talk:Ithzir_language_(essay)]]). When uploading someone else's work to the wiki on their behalf, it is important to note that on an individual creative work's talk page so that we have a clear understanding that permission was given by them. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:34, 14 July 2022 (CDT)

:I can confirm with Dergoaten shortly since he's an active player, unsure how to post approval, but it's been confirmed and directed towards https://gswiki.play.net/Ithzir_Genesis for the most current details [[User:FIREPHOENIX|FIREPHOENIX]] ([[User talk:FIREPHOENIX|talk]]) 23:26, 15 July 2022 (CDT)

:Dergoatean — Today at 11:16 PM
:Hi, you absolutely have my permission

::Thank you very much! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:36, 20 July 2022 (CDT)

=== Moving Saved Posts ===

[[User_talk:FIREPHOENIX]]: I just wanted to give you a head's up that I am moving and consolidating some saved posts on the wiki that don't meet the current [[Help:Style/Formatting_special_articles#Saved_posts|Style Guide standards]] for saved posts. Most of them are being moved to the "/saved posts" subpage of relevant questlines, and I am updating any broken links made as a result of these moves. I didn't want to worry you with the sudden rearranging of data and related page deletion since they include a few of the saved posts that you have archived with your ongoing efforts to preserve game history. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 11:40, 21 July 2022 (CDT)

=== Wood Rarity Template Links ===

[[User talk:WINTERDAWN]]: Hi, WINTERDAWN. I just wanted to give you a head's up on why I reverted your changes to [[Template:Wood_Rarity_and_Use]] to remove the redlined links added. The additional links were all to existing real world trees that are not unique to Elanthia. While it is certainly fine for someone to eventually make pages for individual trees and add those links back in to the template, none of the trees with redlined links had anything unique to them in an Elanthian setting apart from their real world equivalents. Hopefully that helps clarify! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:43, 26 July 2022 (CDT)

=== Merchant NPC Pages ===

[[User_talk:ECHEAUX]]: Hi, ECHEAUX. Thank you for your many contributions to the wiki! Getting a lot of the information related to the ongoing Ebon Gate festival out there while it is still running is a big help to other players. Just as a head's up, I have reverted some of the updates you made to various merchant NPC pages. These are largely restricted to where historical information was removed, such as festival venues or various towns where the merchants have worked. I wanted to drop you a note to explain why those changes were reverted so that you weren't surprised by them.

I also have a question regarding the recent updates that you made to [[Template:Merchants]] and related updates to various merchant NPC pages. Looking at the template, it seems like the "venue" section is now much more restricted than before, limited to only a very small list of festivals instead of being more free form as it was in the past. Is that intended or just an oversight? We have so many different festival venues that limiting which ones the template could be used for seems counterproductive, especially if it means that historical information is not preserved. It also looks like you have added a "town" as a new section, which can only have one entry. Is "town" intended to be the merchant's home town? Or is it intended to be the town they most often work in among the various towns they frequent? Thank you for any insight you can offer. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:56, 26 October 2022 (CDT)

=== Works in Progress ===
[[User_talk:ECHEAUX]]: Hi there, ECHEAUX. I am slowly working through patrols of item script page updates, which I know you focused heavily on late last year. It looks like on several of them, mostly ones from October and November, you included the work-in-progress template to indicate you are still working on the pages, however many of them do not appear to have any recent updates in the past month+. While I don't believe these are all of them, they include [[AYRWT?]], [[Flask belt]], [[Ritualistic tool]], and a few others that look like they were from last year's Ebon Gate festival. Are you still actively working on some of these pages? If not, I'll remove the WIP template as I do the patrols to let other users know they are open for editing again. Thanks again for everything you do to help add to the wiki! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:29, 10 January 2023 (CST)
:I have responded to your question on my [[User_talk:ECHEAUX#Works_in_Progress|discussion page]].[[User:ECHEAUX|ECHEAUX]] ([[User talk:ECHEAUX|talk]]) 10:59, 10 January 2023 (CST)
::I have responded to your response :) [[User:ECHEAUX|ECHEAUX]] ([[User talk:ECHEAUX|talk]]) 11:57, 10 January 2023 (CST)

=== Page Moves ===
[[User talk:ECHEAUX]]: Hi, ECHEAUX. I noticed that when you set up the item script page for the [[Grooming locket]], you did so by moving one of your test/sandbox pages with a substantial edit history to the current page. In doing so, that also had the the effect of moving the entire page history for your test page, which included a large number of edits stemming from when you were testing out formatting for other item scripts unrelated to the Grooming locket. While the wiki team is very glad that you're using your test/sandbox pages to try out new things, the best practice in this instance would be to just cut and paste the source code from your test page into a newly created item page instead of moving it from your sandbox if there are unrelated edits in the test page's history. I know that you're very well versed in wiki use at this point, but if you'd like, I can help with that process for the Grooming locket page. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:49, 7 February 2023 (CST)
:Responded [[User:ECHEAUX|ECHEAUX]] ([[User talk:ECHEAUX|talk]]) 12:32, 7 February 2023 (CST)

===Talk Pages vs Articles===

[[User talk:WINTERDAWN]]: Hi, WINTERDAWN. I am reaching out to you because I am reverting back the edits on [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]] to include the full text of the letter instead of omitting portions of it. Could you help me understand why you removed portions of the letter? I understand that you also put the log of the letter being read aloud in game on the page's Talk page. However, the purpose of a Talk page is to provide notes about the main article, such as indicating permission to share something on behalf of another person, sharing incomplete research information, or asking a question/seeking clarification about the text of an article. Talk pages are not intended to be used as supplementary articles, nor should articles omit relevant information for the sake of sharing it on a Talk page. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:42, 8 February 2023 (CST)

:So there are two separate authors here: myself and WBURKE.

:When I first came across the letter as relayed by Cordarius, in user LEAFIARA's log, I thought, "this is very useful information that should probably be more accessible than in the middle of a log." However, it was late, and I was not necessarily wanting to embark on a lengthy project at the time, and so I literally just copy/pasted it into a separate wiki page (the awkwardly named one I marked for deletion).

:Soon after this, user WBURKE created a page to document the information relayed by that letter. The desire of my page was "here's the log so it's easier to find, maybe it'll be made nicer one day." The desire of their page was to focus on the specific points of interest in that letter. My focus was "here's the letter in full" while their focus was "here's the bullet points with regards to the Empire and Wehnimer's Landing." What they created is what I wanted the log to eventually turn into.

:I still felt it useful to have the log around, though, and so dumped it on the discussion page as I don't know where else to put it.

:As an aside, based on how this wiki is used, both in the past and currently, I feel that the discussion page is a fine spot for these types of things. On other wikis yes, you can have very lengthy conversations about the topics you listed, but that just doesn't really happen here on this one.

:Based on those guidelines we would need to move this content: [[Talk:Sanctify (330)]] and [[Talk:Introduction to the Confluence#The Mentor Event Itself]]. I feel that these bits, that are relevant to their pages, would detract from the pages themselves if added. The Sanctify content would just muddy the page and the Confluence content has no relevance on the guide itself. The Sanctify content would be easy enough to break out into it's own guide I guess, and I guess the Confluence content could just be added to my user page or something. /shrug

:Anyways, just my thoughts. At the end of the day you're the boss on this stuff so I acquiesce to what you feel is best :)

:[[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 16:58, 8 February 2023 (CST)

::Hi, WINTERDAWN. I am not ignoring your query; I am waiting on a response from the larger wiki team about how to approach this specific scenario. Generally speaking, any article's Talk page is not an appropriate venue for archiving important information. If the information is completed research, elaboration on topics contained within an article, or relevant log excerpts, that information should be on a main wiki article, not on a Talk page. Depending on what that information consists of, it could either be on the primary article itself or on a different article that is explicitly created to delve into a more complex concept.
::In the case of [[Talk:Sanctify (330)]], the information presented on it would be best in a main article and not on a Talk page; looking at the content, it does seem appropriate for a 330 guide article, as you pointed out (see [[Help:Style#User pages]]). In the case of [[Talk:Introduction to the Confluence]], this appears to be a log excerpt and would be appropriate for a page that is set up as an event log - in the format of "YYYY-MM-DD - Log Title (log)" (as per [[Help:Style/Formatting special articles#Logs]]). However, as the main page itself appears to be set up as a guide, which appears to be drawn from the log itself (or vice versa), it should adhere to the standards of creating a guide. My general recommendation would be to preserve an entire log, including the introduction that is currently on the Talk page as well as any followup questions to the presentation, as a log article and then maintain the existing article as a guide with the information presented as is. That said, because the log excerpt that was retained on the Talk page does not appear to contain information vital to the article itself or further elaboration on the information presented in it, I also don't see an issue with keeping it as is for this specific case.
::In the case of [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]], which led to this conversation, given the nature of this specific article as well as the duplicate information between it and the article [[Protectorate]], I am waiting on confirmation on how best to handle it before taking any further action. Unless another mod or GM weighs in before me, it will likely not be until next week that I can relay the final determination. I appreciate your patience and understanding with this. While the GS wiki does not get anywhere near as much traffic or use as Wikipedia, that does not mean that the GS wiki does not have its standards for how pages, including Talk pages, should be used. Those standards are also continually evolving as more content is added, and what may have been considered fine two years ago may have have updated standards today. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:40, 9 February 2023 (CST)
:::Hello again, WINTERDAWN. After consulting with the wiki team, I have adjusted [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]] to show the previous version of the text instead of the log. I have transcluded the identically presented information from [[Protectorate]] onto [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]]. I have updated text on the page to link to the log excerpt on [[Protectorate]] instead of referencing the article's talk page. I have also updated the article's Talk page to remove the previously saved log excerpt, to clarify what its purpose is, and to direct anyone viewing it to [[Protectorate#5123]], which is where the complete log excerpt is located. Again, to reiterate, the purpose of Talk pages is to facilitate discussion about an article, such as questions about an article, incomplete research, or citing when permission was granted to post on behalf of another person. They are not intended to serve as articles themselves. Logs and completed research should be either incorporated into the main article or in a supplementary article. Hopefully this helps clear up any confusion for you. Thank you again for your patience as I worked to resolve this. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:13, 14 February 2023 (CST)

::::Alright, thank you for this information and checking into things :) I'll work on the two pages I mentioned (and any others I come across later) as soon as I can. [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 05:18, 15 February 2023 (CST)

===Third Party Software===
[[User talk:GS4ALASTIR]]: Hi, GS4ALASTIR. I have followed up with the wiki team on a few recent edits that you made related to third-party software documentation on the wiki. Specifically, I am referring to the subpages you created associated with both [[Script Bigshot]] documentation and the main [[Script Eloot]] article. The wiki policy for documenting Lich software is viewable on [[Help:Style#Lich_information]]. You will need to get staff approval before creating any new Lich script pages or subpages by contacting the [mailto:gs4-wiki@play.net GSWiki email address]. (It is perfectly fine to continue to make edits to existing Lich script pages or subpages.) I will be taking the following steps:
* I am reverting the recent edits that you made to the [[Script Bigshot]] page to restore the information that was removed from it and moved onto the different subpages. Those subpages are:
** [[Script Bigshot/Profile tab]]
** [[Script Bigshot/Resting tab]]
** [[Script Bigshot/Hunting tab]]
** [[Script Bigshot/Attacking tab]]
** [[Script Bigshot/Commands tab]]
** [[Script Bigshot/Monitoring tab]]
** [[Script Bigshot/Misc tab]]
* I am adding a template on each of the Script Bigshot subpages noting that they are marked for deletion.
* I will be deleting each of the Script Bigshot subpages a week from today.
* I am adding a template onto the [[Script Eloot]] page noting that it is marked for deletion.
* I will be deleting [[Script Eloot]] a week from today.
* I am reverting the recent edits that you made to [[:Template:Third-Party Software]], which added a link and reference to the Script Eloot page.
Some of the information that you put onto the Script Bigshot subpages appears to be updated from how it was originally presented on the main article. I want to make sure that you have the opportunity to save or move that back on to the main approved script article before the subpages are permanently deleted. I also want to make sure that you have the same opportunity to save the information you wrote for the Script Eloot page. If you have any questions, please let me or another mod know, either via talk page or by asking on the official Discord server. Thanks for understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:27, 21 March 2023 (CDT)

===Character Vignettes===
[[User talk:LORDROELET]]: Hi there, LORDROELET. I wanted to let you know why I moved your [[Roelon (prime)/Vignette: Plea to the Wsalamir|Plea to the Wsalamir vignette]] back to where you had originally placed it on the wiki. The [[Help:Storyline guidelines#Character Vignettes|storyline guidelines]] were recently updated to address how character vignettes should be posted to the wiki, largely because most character vignettes were shared in response to storylines. Moving forward, their articles should be set up in the format of:
:<code><nowiki>Character name (instance)/Vignette name</nowiki></code>
In addition, they should not use the [[:Template:Creative-work#Character Vignettes|creative-work]] template as character vignettes are considered a form of "off screen roleplay" instead of a creative work like a poem or short story being told by a character. Thank you for sharing your character's vignettes on the wiki. If you have any questions, the best place to ask is on the Official GS Wiki discussion thread in the Discord forum's Help section. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:54, 5 April 2023 (CDT)

===Third Party Software and Scripts===
[[User talk:RINUALDO]]: Hi there, RINUALDO. I have followed up with the wiki team on some new articles you made associated with Lich script documentation. Specifically, I am referring to [[Script foreach]] and [[Script invdb]], which were made last week, plus [[Script Ebounty]], which was made late last year. The wiki policy for documenting Lich software is viewable on [[Help:Style#Lich_information]]. I have confirmed with the wiki team that permission was not given in advance of these articles being created. You will need to get staff approval before creating any new Lich script articles or subarticles by contacting the [mailto:gs4-wiki@play.net GSWiki email address]. (It is perfectly fine to continue to make edits to existing Lich script articles or subarticles.) I am taking the following steps:
* I am adding a template on all three pages noting that they are marked for deletion:
** [[Script foreach]]
** [[Script invdb]]
** [[Script Ebounty]]
* I will delete all three pages one week from today.
I understand that you are active in helping maintain the existing approved third party software articles so that they are accurate and easy to understand for the community. I want to make sure that you have the opportunity to save the information you wrote for the above three articles should they be approved for creation again at a later date. If you have any questions, please let me or another mod know, either via talk page or by asking on the official Discord server. Thank you for understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:03, 18 April 2023 (CDT)
:Putting stuff on talk pages with no way for a user to know that something exists unless they go to the wiki daily is a terrible, terrible way to communicate about deleting something with a timer.
:Can you please clarify "I have confirmed with the wiki team that permission was not given in advance of these articles being created" who you clarified this with?
::Hello again, RINUALDO. I am following up on your question from yesterday about the three articles you created for lich scripts. I did alert the wiki team of your message to me when you added it, and I am aware that staff were able to talk with you on Discord afterward and confirm that you did indeed have prior authorization for the invdb and foreach script articles.
::I would like to apologize on behalf of the wiki team for incorrectly flagging the [[Script foreach]] and [[Script invdb]] articles as not authorized. I am reverting my edits to both of those articles where I had added the delete template, and I am also putting a note on their respective Discussion tabs so that there is no confusion in the future. Unfortunately, the [[Script Ebounty]] article was not approved in advance of it being created, so I do need to delete it when the seven day window has concluded. Thank you for your patience and understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:37, 20 April 2023 (CDT)

The ebounty page was intended in the prior approval that was released. It was referenced in the email request, which I could have been more specific. As this has gone to Feedback, please do not delete anything until the issue is resolved.
:Hi, RINUALDO. I have relayed your message to me on my talk page to the wiki team . Also, just as an FYI if it is helpful, if you want to add on your user name and a timestamp of an edit to the end of the message, it is possible to do so with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:46, 25 April 2023 (CDT)
::Hi again, RINUALDO. I wanted to update you on the three articles I previously reached out to you about. I have removed the delete template and renamed the article for [[Lich:Script Ebounty]] to conform with the updated guidelines for Lich scripts on the wiki. I have also moved both [[Lich:Script invdb]] and [[Lich:Script foreach]] for the same reason. All three articles will need the forthcoming lich header template added to them once the template has been finalized. Thank you for your patience and understanding as the wiki guidelines continue to evolve. I appreciate your continued efforts to add documentation to the wiki to help other players better enjoy the game. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:23, 23 May 2023 (CDT)

===Thaumaturge Tome Script===
[[User talk:ALLENM20]]: Hello, ALLENM20. I am following up with you on behalf of the wiki team. I know that MOD-GSMOTTE already reached out to you about the [[Lich:Thaumaturge Tome Script]] article that you previously wrote. In light of the updates to the wiki standards for lich script pages, the script article is now permitted on the wiki. I have moved the article so that its title properly conforms with these new standards (which adds Lich: at the start of the article title). The article will need to be updated with the forthcoming lich script template as soon as it is released. Thank you for your patience and understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:18, 30 May 2023 (CDT)

===Character Vignettes===
[[User talk:HALEM20]]: Hi again, HALEM20. Thank you for doing so many updates to help record events in the recent and ongoing Platinum storylines. I noticed that you recently added two character vignettes related to the [[:Category:What Lurks in the Dark|What Lurks in the Dark]] storyline that do not appear to be linked to your account based on prior edits to their respective character pages. If you are uploading vignettes on behalf of another player, you will need to very clearly state that on the Discussion tab for each page. The two vignettes are [[Jaired (platinum)/Loose Ends]] and [[Oliviero (platinum)/Interruption]]. To add that information, you will just need to click on the Discussion tab at the top of each article and note that you have permission to upload them. I recommend adding <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> to the end of it to make sure that you have a clear account/date/timestamp applied afterward. Thank you for understanding! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:17, 19 June 2023 (CDT)
:Hello, HALEM20. I previously reached out to you about two character vignettes related to the [[:Category:What Lurks in the Dark|What Lurks in the Dark]] storyline that you added to the wiki for characters that did not appear to be yours, based on prior edits to their respective character pages. I see that Oliviero's player did confirm that permission was given to upload [[Oliviero (platinum)/Interruption]] to the wiki, however there is still no indication that Jaired's player gave permission to upload [[Jaired (platinum)/Loose Ends]]. GSwiki has recently updated its copyright policy with regard to posting works created by another person. I have flagged the "Interruption" vignette for not being in compliance with the updated [[Gswiki:Policy]] for [[GSwiki:Policy#Copyrights|Copyrights]] on works created by someone other than the uploader. A statement that the vignette was uploaded with permission by the author must be added to the vignette's [[Talk:Jaired (platinum)/Loose Ends|Discussion tab]]. '''If that is not added within 7 days, it will be deleted from the wiki.''' If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for copyrights on articles, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926|Discord forum's wiki thread]. Thank you for your understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:34, 13 July 2023 (CDT)

=== Blanked Article===
[[User talk:PAELA]]: Hi there, PAELA. I noticed that you created two articles for your vignette, "Disturbing News", and then went back and deleted all of the text on the duplicate article. The one that still has text is [[Agathilea (prime)/Disturbing News]] while the one that has had all text removed is [[Agathilea (prime)/Disturbing News/Disturbing News]]. Did you remove all the text because you wanted the second article to be deleted? Putting <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki> on an article is the best way to let a wiki Mod know that the page was created in error and should be deleted from the wiki instead of just removing all of the text on it. If that is what you would like to be done, please add the delete template to the article so another mod or I can remove it for you. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:14, 9 August 2023 (CDT)

===Recent Edits===
[[User talk:LUXELLE]]: Hi there, LUXELLE. I'd like to thank you for your many contributions to the wiki, especially for your guides to help other players better enjoy the various festivals and events in game. I know that you frequently collaborate with other players to write some of your guides. Another user recently made some edits to one of your guides, [[Duskruin primer]], that I was not sure were intended by you or your team. They do not appear to be malicious in nature, however I did want to reach out to you about if they were intended to be part of the article. The edits are a new section at the end of the article, [[Duskruin primer#All the big credit givings|All the big credit givings]]. If these edits were not intended by you or your team, either you can delete them or you can let me know and another mod or I would be happy to delete them for you. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:26, 16 August 2023 (CDT)

===Images and Article Edits at Risk for Deletion===
[[User talk:CELLORA]]: Hi there, CELLORA. In reviewing some recent updates to the wiki, I saw that you have made quite a few edits to [[Sorlu (prime)]], which appears to be a character page for someone else's character. There is no indication anywhere that Sorlu's player gave you permission to create or edit a character page on their behalf. [[Gswiki:Policy]] prohibits users from editing character pages unless the character is theirs or they have been given permission by that character's player to make those edits. If you do have permission to edit Sorlu's character page, you will need to indicate this by clearly stating it on its Discussion/Talk tab, [[Talk:Sorlu (prime)]], that you have been given permission to do so by his player. Alternatively, Sorlu's player can put that information on the discussion page. When adding that information, please make sure to add <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end of your comments, which will automatically add a "signature" with your user name, plus the date and time of when your edit was made.

In addition, there are a couple of images that I have flagged, all of which appear related to the same character article. I think I understand what is going on with the images but would appreciate some clarification from you if my understanding is correct.
* [[:File:Nalfein Crest.png]] - This image appears to be a duplicate of [[:File:A Nalfein Crest.png]]. It is not used on any articles. An earlier edit by you to the file noted you as being the creator.
* [[:File:A Nalfein Crest.png]] - This image appears on [[Sorlu (prime)]]. This image notes Sorlu as being the creator, as does the caption you added to Sorlu's character page.
Can you confirm who created the image? It appears that Sorlu's player created it, you erroneously placed your name on "Nalfein Crest" then removed it, then reuploaded the image crediting Sorlu. Is that accurate? If so, I will delete the first duplicate file as it is not used anywhere.
* [[:File:Nalfein Crest 3.png]] - This image appears to be a duplicate of [[:File:Rotting Nalfein Cret.png]]. It is not used on any articles. This image notes you as being the creator, not Sorlu's player.
* [[:File:Rotting Nalfein Cret.png]] This image appears on [[Sorlu (prime)]]. This image notes Sorlu as being the creator, as does the caption you added to Sorlu's character page.
Can you confirm who created the image? It appears that this is a similar situation as the above two images, where you first listed yourself as the creator then re-uploaded the image listing Sorlu as the creator. If that is the case, I will delete the first duplicate file as it is not used anywhere.

In all cases, '''If that information is not added within 7 days, your edits to the character page and the impacted images will be deleted from the wiki.''' Thank you very much for clearly taking steps to fully credit images, not just who created them but also if permission was granted to upload them. That is a big help for moderators like me as we review edits to the wiki. If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for editing character pages, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926%7CDiscord forum's wiki thread]. Thank you for understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 11:02, 29 August 2023 (CDT)

Hello! Yes, I made a mistake on the images and couldn't figure out how to fix it without uploading new ones. If you could please delete the first ones, that would be great! He created them. I'm still figuring out the flagging and all of that for the wiki. I will add a note on the page that he gave me permission to create the page as well. [[User:CELLORA|CELLORA]] ([[User talk:CELLORA|talk]]) 12:59, 29 August 2023 (CDT)

===Article/Edits at Risk for Deletion===
[[User talk:DASLOONIX]]: Hi again, DASLOONIX. In reviewing some recent updates to the wiki, I saw that you have made quite a few edits to [[Sorlu (prime)]], which appears to be a character page for someone else's character. There is no indication anywhere that Sorlu's player gave you permission to create or edit a character page on their behalf. [[Gswiki:Policy]] prohibits users from editing character pages unless the character is theirs or they have been given permission by that character's player to make those edits. If you do have permission to edit Sorlu's character page, you will need to indicate this by clearly stating it on its Discussion/Talk tab, [[Talk:Sorlu (prime)]], that you have been given permission to do so by his player. Alternatively, Sorlu's player can put that information on the discussion page. When adding that information, please make sure to add <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end of your comments, which will automatically add a "signature" with your user name, plus the date and time of when your edit was made. '''If that information is not added within 7 days, your edits to that article will be deleted from the wiki.''' If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for editing character pages, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926%7CDiscord forum's wiki thread]. Thank you for understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 11:02, 29 August 2023 (CDT)

===Images and Article Edits at Risk for Deletion===
[[User talk:CHADDEAUX]]: Hello, CHADDEAUX. I am reaching out to you about two things.

First, a few years ago you created and edited a character page article, [[Dirvy (prime)]], which has since then been edited by another user. There is no indication anywhere that Dirvy's player gave you permission to create or edit a character page on their behalf. [[Gswiki:Policy]] prohibits users from creating or editing character pages unless the character is theirs or they have been given permission by that character's player to make those edits. If you do have permission to edit Dirvy's character page, you will need to indicate this by clearly stating it on its Discussion/Talk tab, [[Talk:Dirvy (prime)]], that you have been given permission to do so by her player. Alternatively, Dirvy's player can put that information on the discussion page. When adding that information, please make sure to add <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end of your comments, which will automatically add a "signature" with your user name, plus the date and time of when your edit was made.

Second, you previously uploaded three images to the wiki which are missing some required information. GSwiki now has a new policy for all images uploaded to it. Please see [[Gswiki:Policy#Copyrights]] for more information about that policy and the requirement to note image creators, what AI imaging software was used (if any), and if permission was granted by the creator to upload the image to the wiki.
* [[:File:Dirvy Britbane medium.jpg]] - Thank you for already stating that Stormyrain created this artwork. You will need to add whether Stormyrain also gave you permission to upload the image onto the wiki. This information will need to be noted both on the image file as well as all articles displaying it.
* [[:File:Dirvy by Flimbo.jpg]] - Thank you for already stating that Flimbo created this artwork. You will need to add whether Flimbo also gave you permission to upload the image onto the wiki. This information will need to be noted both on the image file as well as all articles displaying it.
* [[:File:Zailon.png]] - Thank you for already stating that Flimbo created this artwork. You will need to add whether Flimbo also gave you permission to upload the image onto the wiki. This information will need to be noted both on the image file as well as all articles displaying it.
In all cases for the character page and the three images, '''if the required information is not added within 7 days, the edits to the character page and the images will be deleted from the wiki.''' If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for images, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926%7CDiscord forum's wiki thread]. Thank you for understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:50, 17 October 2023 (CDT)

===Images and Article Edits at Risk for Deletion===
[[User talk:TWILSON]]: Hello, TWILSON. I am reaching out to you about two things.

First, you recently edited a character page article, [[Dirvy (prime)]], which was originally created and edited by another user. There is no indication anywhere that Dirvy's player gave you permission to create or edit a character page on their behalf. [[Gswiki:Policy]] prohibits users from creating or editing character pages unless the character is theirs or they have been given permission by that character's player to make those edits. If you do have permission to edit Dirvy's character page, you will need to indicate this by clearly stating it on its Discussion/Talk tab, [[Talk:Dirvy (prime)]], that you have been given permission to do so by her player. Alternatively, Dirvy's player can put that information on the discussion page. When adding that information, please make sure to add <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end of your comments, which will automatically add a "signature" with your user name, plus the date and time of when your edit was made.

Second, you recently uploaded an image to the wiki, [[:File:Dirvy gencraft image.jpg]], which is missing some required information. GSwiki now has a new policy for all images uploaded to it. Please see [[Gswiki:Policy#Copyrights]] for more information about that policy and the requirement to note image creators, what AI imaging software was used (if any), and if permission was granted by the creator to upload the image to the wiki. Images using AI software in their creation are also required to be included in [[:Category:AI artwork]] Thank you for already noting that it was created using AI software. You will need to add who created the image and, if that person is not you, if you had permission to upload it to the wiki. This information will need to be noted both on the image file as well as any articles displaying it.

In all cases for the character page and the image, '''if the required information is not added within 7 days, the edits to the character page and the image will be deleted from the wiki.''' If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for images, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926%7CDiscord forum's wiki thread]. Thank you for understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:49, 17 October 2023 (CDT)

===Blanked article===
[[User talk:GS4ALASTIR]]: Hi there, GS4ALASTIR. I noticed that you created an article for [[Emberthorn Refuge]] with a lot of information on it then shortly afterward went back and removed all of the text. Are you trying to have the article deleted? If so, placing <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki> on an article flags it for mods to review for deletion. Thanks again for your many contributions! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 11:25, 12 September 2023 (CDT)

===Short Story Question===

[[User talk:CHIVERSFREE1]]: Hello, CHIVERSFREE1. The wiki team is currently working on some updates for the style guide as it relates to various types of creative works, including short stories and vignettes. This includes better defining what different creative works are so that they are better reflected with the creative-works template, article titles, etc., to help out both contributors and other players accessing the wiki. I know that you have been working on several lengthy articles, such as [[The Reckoning (short story)]], which might span several categories of creative works. I was hoping that you could share some insight on how you have approached writing articles like it.

You have "The Reckoning" labeled as a short story with the creative-works template. It appears to be a series of glimpses into off-screen/out-of-game roleplay focusing on your character as opposed to a short story written or shared by your character or set within Elanthia in general. Would you feel that is accurate - that it is more a lengthy series of off-screen vignettes as opposed to a formal short story? It also appears that there are sometimes contributions by other authors, such as chapters where Rohese and Mirkk are having a conversation or actively doing things together. Is "The Reckoning" retelling events that have taken place in game in a prose format (as opposed to a log format)? In some ways, it seems like it might almost be a [[Help:Storyline guidelines#Player-Run Storylines|player-run storyline]] focusing on Rohese's personal growth and evolution.

Thank you in advance for any insight you can offer. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:33, 3 October 2023 (CDT)

===Duplicate Logs===
[[User talk:TUMARA]]: Hi there, TUMARA. You recently added two logs that appear to be identical to the wiki. Can you please clarify which one you intended to keep? You can do this by editing the duplicate log that you want deleted and adding <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki> somewhere on that log article. That flags it for a mod to delete. The two logs are:
* [[The Heads Rolled (Battle Log)]]
* [[The Heads Rolled--Battle Log]]
I will update the one you intended to keep with the correct log title once you have identified it. It will end up as titled "Evermore Hollow - 2023-10-23 - The Heads Rolled Battle (log)", per [[Gswiki:Style guide/Formatting special articles#Logs]]. If you do not note which article you prefer to keep within 7 days, then I will delete the newer article and keep the older one. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:35, 31 October 2023 (CDT)

===Uploaded Images and Captions===
[[User talk:PTOLEMY]]: Hello, PTOLEMY. I have updated the image captions for all new images you added to your character page, [[Jaysehn (prime)]]. GSwiki now has a new policy for all images uploaded to it. Please see [[Gswiki:Policy#AI-Generated Artwork]] for more information about that policy and how it pertains to any images created with AI imaging software. AI generated images cannot be noted as copyrighted, and the captions displaying AI generated images must reflect the same information as what you indicated in their file uploads. I have already updated the captions based on information you provided with the uploaded files, however please keep this in mind with any future use of them or other AI-generated images. In addition, I have also already added the required [[:Category:AI artwork]] for all of your recently uploaded images. If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for images, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926%7CDiscord forum's wiki thread]. Thank you for your help with this process. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:08, 7 November 2023 (CST)

===Duplicate Article===
[[User talk:PTOLEMY]]: Hello, PTOLEMY. You recently created two identical articles, [[Paid in Full]] and [[Jaysehn (prime)/Reflections/Paid in Full]]. I suspect that the second is the article you intended to create and the first was made in error, due to the second following the Style Guide's standards for personal vignettes. Can you please confirm which duplicate should be deleted? This can be done by editing the one you wish deleted and putting in the <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki> template anywhere on the article. If I do not hear any response from you in one week, I will mark [[Paid in Full]] with the delete template for mod review and deletion. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:45, 13 December 2023 (CST)

===Images and Article Edits at Risk for Deletion===

[[User talk:PTOLEMY]]:Hi, PTOLEMY. I'm reaching out to you about a couple of things.

First, I'm contacting you about the recent images that you have uploaded to the wiki. The requirements for posting images to the wiki has changed this past year. Please see [[Gswiki:Policy#Copyrights]] for more information about that policy and the requirement to note image creators, what AI imaging software was used (if any), and if permission was granted by the creator to upload the image to the wiki. In addition, all images using AI generating software are required to include <nowiki>[[Category:AI artwork]]</nowiki> on the files themselves. I have edited all but two of the files that you have uploaded to include this, however in the future if this continues to be omitted, I will begin flagging those files for moderater review/deletion. This text should be added as part of the image file description when you upload it, or edited it into the image file description after uploading. The two files I have not edited to include this information are outlined in the next paragraph.

Second, you recently edited a character page, [[Hadya (prime)]], which has been maintained by another user. There is no indication anywhere that Hadya's player gave you permission to edit a character page on their behalf. [[Gswiki:Policy]] prohibits users from creating or editing character pages unless the character is theirs or they have been given permission by that character's player to make those edits. If you do have permission to edit Hadya's character page, you will need to indicate this by clearly stating it on its Discussion tab, [[Talk:Hadya (prime)]], that you have been given permission to do so by her player. Alternatively, Hadya's player can put that information on the discussion tab. When adding that information, please make sure to add <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end of your comments, which will automatically add a "signature" with your user name, plus the date and time of when your edit was made. I am flagging the edits you made to this article as well as the two images you uploaded for it as not following [[Gswiki:Policy]] requiring permission from the character's player. The two impacted images are [[:File:Hadya AI Ptolemy.jpg]] and [[:File:HadyaSummons AI Ptolemy.jpg]]. These two images are also missing the required <nowiki>[[Category:AI artwork]]</nowiki>.

'''If that information is not added within 7 days, these images and article edits will be deleted from the wiki.''' Please do not remove the <nowiki>{{moddelete}}</nowiki> template from the images and article displaying them. Another moderator or I will remove that template after your updates have been reviewed to ensure that they meet [[Gswiki:Policy]] requirements. If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for images, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926 Discord forum's wiki thread]. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:25, 20 December 2023 (CST)

===Duplicate Images===
[[User talk:LYSTRA]]: Hi there, LYSTRA. You recently uploaded two images to the wiki that appear to be duplicates of one another except with slightly different resolutions. The two image files are [[:File:Fyg-kitten.png]] (1024x1024 pixels) and [[:File:Fyg-kitten1.png]] (500x500 pixels). Can you please let me know which of the two you had intended to keep on the wiki and which is the duplicate that should be deleted? I will remove the duplicate image. You can let me or another moderator know by adding <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki> to the image file that was uploaded in error, or you can respond here. If I do not hear back from you in one week, I will flag the image with the lower resolution for mod review and deletion. In addition, all images using AI software in their creation are required to be included in [[:Category:AI artwork]]. To add that text to an image file, you will need to click on "Edit Source" on the image file itself and add <nowiki>[[Category:AI artwork]]</nowiki>. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:01, 20 December 2023 (CST)
:[[:File_talk:Fyg-kitten1.png]]: This image appears to be a lower resolution duplicate of [[:File:Fyg-kitten.png]] and is not used on any articles. It will be deleted in favor of the higher resolution image unless the uploader requests that this image be kept and the higher resolution image be deleted instead. Uploader originally contacted on 12/20/23 regarding the existence of a duplicate image and informed of this next step. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:06, 27 December 2023 (CST)

===Article Edits at Risk for Deletion===
[[User talk:SWEETLITTLEAGONY]]: Hello, SWEETLITTLEAGONY. In reviewing some recent updates to the wiki, I saw that you have made changes to [[Lissaya (prime)]], which appears to be a character page for someone else's character as the article was originally created by a different account. There is no indication anywhere that Lissaya's player gave you permission to edit a character page on their behalf. [[Gswiki:Policy]] prohibits users from editing character pages unless the character is theirs or they have been given permission by that character's player to make those edits. If you do have permission to edit Lissaya's character page, you will need to indicate this by clearly stating it on its Discussion tab, [[Talk:Lissaya (prime)]], that you have been given permission to do so by her player. Alternatively, Lissaya's player can put that information on the discussion page. When adding that information, please make sure to add <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end of your comments, which will automatically add a "signature" with your user name, plus the date and time of when your edit was made. '''If that information is not added within 7 days, your edits to that article will be deleted from the wiki.''' If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for editing character pages, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926 Discord forum's wiki thread]. Thank you for understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:49, 20 December 2023 (CST)

===Edits to Announcements===
[[User talk:CHAPSICKLE2]]: Hi there, CHAPSICKLE2. Your recent edits to [[Announcement: Spell Disabler Review Live!]] were reverted as they violated [[Gswiki:Policy]], which states "Articles may be created or edited freely with the exception of: Announcements, Official Documentation, and Official Vignettes - Created by GameMasters only, handled by GameMasters and Moderators only." This is not an official warning or anything as the edits do appear to have been made in good faith. I have moved a copy of your added comments to the Announcement's Discussion/Talk tab, which can be accessed at [[Talk:Announcement: Spell Disabler Review Live!]]. In the future, please use the Discussion/Talk tab when adding notes related to official staff announcements if there is not a primary non-announcement article for the update discussed. Thank you for understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:21, 16 January 2024 (CST)

===Edits to Character Pages/Subpages===
[[User talk:AFALLACE]]: Hi there, AFALLACE. I'm reaching out to you about recent edits you made to a couple of articles and sub-articles related to [[Jaired (platinum)]] and [[Jaired (platinum)/The Saga of Jaired Delone (short story)]]. There are a couple different accounts that have edited the content of these articles for things other than minor moderation or formatting updates. Only a player or someone to whom they have given permission may update a character's page per [[Gswiki:Policy]]. I do see that you have made nearly all content changes to Jaired's character page since its creation, however they do include substantial edits to the vignette subarticle that was authored by a different account. Can you please clarify where permissions stand for editing these by Jaired's player? I realize this might be a case of having multiple accounts, however there is no way for me to verify this as a moderator. If I don't hear back from you in 7 days, I will flag some of these updates for moderator review. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:15, 17 January 2024 (CST)

===Modified Artwork===
[[User talk:JSEVERNS]]: Hi there, JSEVERNS. Several years ago, you uploaded an image, [[:File:Teras Isle Regional final.jpg]]. Recently, another user modified your image to create [[:File:Teras Isle Discovery of Kragnek Dzu (Oro).png]]. The other user did note that your image was the original source, however there is no note that they have artist permission to make modifications for it. I also was not able to find any remarks on your original image file or its related captions that you have given any sort of blanket permission for modifications by others. Can you please clarify if permission was given? While your image does depict a map, it is considered artwork for the purposes of [[Gswiki:Policy#Copyrights]] and is protected under that section. If I don't hear back from you within 7 days, I will flag the new image for moderator review. You can respond either here or on my user talk page. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 11:15, 17 January 2024 (CST)

[[User talk:JGENGLISH]]: Hi there, JGENGLISH. You recently uploaded an image, [[:File:Teras Isle Discovery of Kragnek Dzu (Oro).png]], which appears to be modified from an image originally created by another artist, [[:File:Teras Isle Regional final.jpg]]. I do see that you included in the caption a note about the original image. Can you please clarify if the original artist gave you permission to modify their image? I don't see that remarked on anywhere in your upload notes/captions. While the image does depict a map, it is considered artwork for the purposes of [[Gswiki:Policy#Copyrights]] and is protected under that section. If I don't hear back from you within 7 days, I will flag the image for moderator review. You can respond either here or on my user talk page. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 11:15, 17 January 2024 (CST)

[[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]: Hey there. Just putting my response here to this as well: "Hello HOST-GSKEBECHET! Thanks, sorry. Yes, Aloska (JSEVERNS) gave me permission to edit their original artwork. I will add this to the image description. Should I also add it to the caption? I can ask him to check his TALK page here if that would also help."

== Uploaded Image Patrol ==

Moved to [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET/Image patrols]].

== Elanthian Journals ==

By chance are you able to see the old Elanthian Journal pages that were deleted? I just realized.. one thing I never did is check each one to see what linked to them. I just found a page that linked to a Journal :| [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 16:52, 12 August 2022 (CDT)
:Unfortunately, no. Once a page is deleted, it is gone-gone. However, I was able to pull up a list of broken links and adjusted seven pages that appeared to reference the old Elanthian Journal pages. That should hopefully have caught any others that were overlooked! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:45, 16 August 2022 (CDT)
::Thank you for this! Sorry for the extra work. [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 15:44, 16 August 2022 (CDT)
:::Very welcome! Thank you for bringing up the potential of broken links. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:14, 17 August 2022 (CDT)

== Merchants template ==

I cobbled that template together in 2019, as a pet project, when things were a little more relaxed. So many people were "remember that one merchant? Where were they?? What did they look like??", that it felt like a good addition. Anyway, it was a build based on a template someone else had done, as you've likely read. I had planned on continuing work on it, then COVID hit and I turned into a homeschool teacher for two young teenagers.

Venues: the primary reason I changed those venues was because it was putting so many merchants into categories that didn't exist, and may not have been the best one for them to go into ''at the time''. By restricting category to "wandering" and others that already had a category made, it cut down on "red links"; '''wandering''' moved them into a common category and could be changed later. '''Generally speaking''', if they had a mention in their blurb as to what venue they attended, I removed the category that was causing a red link, although any that did not were likely an oversight (the notable exception being Elsia - I forgot to research her item, '''Fancy Coats''', so I could add the venue).

Towns: it was my intention to adapt the template to allow them to be placed into the category '''for that town'''. An example would be citizen-only merchants such as Duvernith or Davro. I admittedly got wrapped up in EG item-adding and had not gotten back to fixing the "town" venue to populate into town pages instead of '''Town''' NPCs, a category that doesn't exist, so I just left town uncategorized for the time being.

Many of those merchants I added myself with no real idea of what venues they had visited, in that hopes of at least having an appearance and a basic blurb to be expanded upon later. I had intended to continue with the work after EG and add category pages where appropriate. That section of the template might get pretty long for particularly industrious merchants! '''Wandering''' seemed like a good fit if they didn't have what might be considered a "primary festival" (for example, I wouldn't be surprised to see Elusionari in a lot of places!).

That said, I get that once you add a template, you basically lose any claim to it being "yours". However, no one else really took an interest in it, and I was told it would need work anyway, so I figured I was all right to try to adapt it to '''not''' use non-existent categories for the time being, since many (most?) of them had venue linked in the blurb or the body of the article. (TL:DR yet? LOL)[[User:ECHEAUX|ECHEAUX]] ([[User talk:ECHEAUX|talk]]) 12:09, 26 October 2022 (CDT)

== Table updates ==

Hello! As I'm sure you've noticed, I've been going through and updating older items to the newer templates. A lot of them are simple, but some of them require more time; much more time in some cases. For those, fortunately, a lot them are more or less copy and paste for the verb lists with a few minor tweaks. I noticed that on a couple of them you've gone back and added in formatting for data tables for accessibility purposes. I read up on that today and I'll be sure to add that going forward, but I was wondering: Is there a way you are finding those that need it or are you just kind of seeing them as I'm doing them? I'd be more than happy to go back correct the formatting on those, but if there's a way I can find them more "wholesale" than "piecemeal", that would make the job easier. [[User:ECHEAUX|ECHEAUX]] ([[User talk:ECHEAUX|talk]]) 17:40, 9 November 2022 (CST)
:Hi there! Part of my duties as one of our wiki mods are to review recent page changes to ensure that they are appropriate to the wiki, are accurate, are appropriately named as a page or subpage, and that they generally comply with the wiki style guide. So you'll see me doing things like updating pages to use new template standards, moving pages that aren't named properly, fixing redirects or broken links, updating categories, reviewing pages listed in [[:Category:Marked for Deletion]], and similar "moderator" type duties focused on overall wiki consistency that are not expected of general users who instead are adding new content to the wiki. One of the standards set out by the style guide and the wiki team is to ensure that the wiki is as accessible as possible to everyone, including our users who rely on a screen reader. If I run across any pages during my patrols that don't meet current standards, including tables that are not set up in a way for screen readers to properly capture, part of my job as a moderator is to update them accordingly. Since you have been incredibly active on the wiki over the past couple of months, I am much more likely to review your edits than other users due to sheer volume; that's why it might look like I'm going back to change pages you've touched more so than other users. Thanks for inquiring! If you'd like to know more about our moderator team or what our role is, I encourage you to ask on the Gemstone Discord's #wiki-talk channel where one of the GMs overseeing the wiki can chime in. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:11, 10 November 2022 (CST)
::Oh, I understand that. I just wasn't sure if there was an easy way to see pages with certain errors so I could fix those that I missed them on. I can go through my contribution list and do it, though. Thanks for getting back to me![[User:ECHEAUX|ECHEAUX]] ([[User talk:ECHEAUX|talk]]) 10:34, 10 November 2022 (CST)

== Northern Sentinel's Decree==

Hello! My intention with this page was to list only the legal characteristics of the Landing's protectorate status. I deliberately did not want to include the preamble and ending of the letter, as they did not carry legal weight. As such, I would like to revert it to a version which contains only those legal characteristics. In my view, a log page or official document page would be more appropriate for recording the entire letter. [[User:WBURKE1|WBURKE1]] ([[User talk:WBURKE1|talk]])
:Hi, WBURKE1. Thanks for reaching out to me! I am not ignoring your query; I am waiting on a response from the larger wiki team about how to approach this specific scenario with the article [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]]. As I explained to WINTERDAWN, generally speaking an article's Talk page is not an appropriate venue for archiving important information. Given the nature of this specific article as well as the duplicate information between it and the article [[Protectorate]], I am waiting on confirmation on how best to handle it before taking any further action. Unless another mod or GM weighs in before me, it will likely not be until next week that I can relay the final determination. I appreciate your patience and understanding with this. Thank you again for all of your contributions to the wiki. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:40, 9 February 2023 (CST)
::Hello again, WBURKE1. After consulting with the wiki team, I have adjusted [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]] to show the previous version of the text instead of the log. I have transcluded the identically presented information from [[Protectorate]] onto [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]]. I have updated text on the page to link to the log excerpt on [[Protectorate]] instead of referencing the article's talk page. I have also updated the article's Talk page to remove the previously saved log excerpt, to clarify what its purpose is, and to direct anyone viewing it to [[Protectorate#5123]], which is where the complete log excerpt is located. This should help ensure that the intent behind the original page, which is to succinctly state the terms of the Landing's Protectorate status, is maintained while still preserving information. Thank you again for your patience as I worked to resolve this. Please let me know if you have any further questions or concerns. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:13, 14 February 2023 (CST)
:::Thanks for this resolution and for all your hard work! [[User:WBURKE1|WBURKE1]] ([[User talk:WBURKE1|talk]]) 12:39, 14 February 2023 (CST)

== Images ==

They're different images, please look more closely.

== I don't know what I'm doing! ==

Hi, I tried to DM, failed! But found.. this space. And I have no idea if I'm doing it correctly. I READ WHAT YOU WROTE and thank you for what was pointed out I will work on figuring out how to fix it, it just might not be instantly remedied (not too long, just not a finger-snap of time, I'm still figuring stuff out!) -DASLOONIX

== 5mb File Size Down to 2mb ==

I'm noticing that the wiki now has a 2mb file size limit when it used to be 5mb. Is this an unintended result of the recent update or is it intentional? I'm trying to update my OSA maps but the 2mb limit is going to cause a huge loss in quality on them. Thoughts? If it's intentional, perhaps you or an admin could override the setting and post the two maps for me? [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 19:56, 7 January 2024 (CST)
:I do not know about any details related to maximum file size changes. I have relayed your question to the wiki team and will respond on your user talk page when I have more information. While you are welcome to reach out to me (or other mods) with questions like this, you can also ask them on the [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926 Discord forum's wiki thread], where you may receive a faster response. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:08, 9 January 2024 (CST)
::Just checking in :) [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 23:41, 15 January 2024 (CST)
:::Hi, again! I did inquire but still have no update. The wiki team is relaying your question to onside/IT alongside several other extensions and related requests. As a result, this will take much more time to answer than most questions due to it being outside the scope of what the wiki team can address. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:01, 16 January 2024 (CST)
::::Okay, thank you! In the meantime, is this something you or an admin have the power to override for the 2 map files? [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 18:28, 16 January 2024 (CST)
:::::No, this is outside the purview of what the wiki team is able to do. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:27, 17 January 2024 (CST)
::::::Okay, thank you! [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 21:24, 18 January 2024 (CST)

User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET

2024-01-20T04:30:03Z

JGENGLISH: /* Modified Artwork */

== Have a question or comment? ==

HOST-GSKEBECHET (talk | contribs) (Added back in the OTS analyze and rearranged a couple things to conform with item script style guide.)

You added back in the Tier 1 analyze in the OTS section. [[User:GS4ALASTIR|GS4ALASTIR]] ([[User talk:GS4ALASTIR|talk]]) 10:46, 25 April 2023 (CDT)

Hello, I added a line that Stormyrain gave permission to use the image of the Sisters on the wiki [[User:STACYWALTER|STACYWALTER]] ([[User talk:STACYWALTER|talk]]) 06:16, 12 October 2023 (CDT)

You're doing great work. Thank you, I appreciate it. [[User:VANKRASN39|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39|talk]]) 11:42, 7 November 2023 (CST)
:Thank you! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]])

Hi, I got your message about the copywrite problems with my image. I created the image myself using Artflow.ai but I have literally no idea how to comply with your request and I can barely even understand it. I cant find the Discord page you linked to either. Could you please walk me through this step by step? I have almost no skill at coding or using the wiki...I created my page by simple cut and paste and rewriting.

Thank you,
Toxyrox

PS if it would be easier on Discord, my username there is Avondell.
:Thank you very much! I have responded on your talk page.[[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:37, 15 November 2023 (CST)

== Cross-posts of user:talk notes ==

=== Animalistic Spirit Shield iteminfo ===

[[User_talk:GS4ALASTIR]]: Hi, Alastir. Thank you very much for contributing so many different things to the various item script pages! Just as a head's up, I rolled back one of your changes made a while ago to the [[Animalistic_Spirit_Shield|Animalistic Spirit Shield]] page, where you had accidentally removed the iteminfo section. I have added back in the iteminfo section so that it properly displays; it's actually an important template to keep in place for scripted items as it helps populate other categories on the wiki, making it easier to cross-reference related things. Thanks for understanding! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:55, 21 June 2022 (CDT)

=== Category: Marked for Deletion ===

[[User talk:WINTERDAWN]]: Thank you for all of the contributions you've made toward archiving all of the Elanthian Journals! Just as a reminder, please use <nowiki>[[Category:Marked for Deletion]]</nowiki> on a page when you would like it deleted. I went ahead and deleted the Journal pages you had cleared and replaced with the text, "Things to be deleted by Simu Admin." because your intent appeared to be very clear, however using the Category instead would make it easier for any mods to see those pages as part of weekly patrols for page deletion requests. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:39, 7 July 2022 (CDT)
:Shoot. I was doing {{category... sorry about that! Also, sorry about the extra set of deletes that I created. I hope it wasn't too time consuming :| [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 13:01, 7 July 2022 (CDT)
::That's okay! It wasn't too time consuming. I just wanted to remind you about it for the future. Thank you again for all of your contributions![[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:37, 8 July 2022 (CDT)

=== Requesting Clarification ===

[[User_talk:FIREPHOENIX]]: Thank you for all of your contributions to preserving the-ever expanding game lore! I have a question regarding your recent edit to [[Ithzir_language_(essay)]]. Do you have the original author's permission to upload "Part 5" to the essay? I did not see you noting that anywhere on the essay's talk page ([[Talk:Ithzir_language_(essay)]]). When uploading someone else's work to the wiki on their behalf, it is important to note that on an individual creative work's talk page so that we have a clear understanding that permission was given by them. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:34, 14 July 2022 (CDT)

:I can confirm with Dergoaten shortly since he's an active player, unsure how to post approval, but it's been confirmed and directed towards https://gswiki.play.net/Ithzir_Genesis for the most current details [[User:FIREPHOENIX|FIREPHOENIX]] ([[User talk:FIREPHOENIX|talk]]) 23:26, 15 July 2022 (CDT)

:Dergoatean — Today at 11:16 PM
:Hi, you absolutely have my permission

::Thank you very much! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:36, 20 July 2022 (CDT)

=== Moving Saved Posts ===

[[User_talk:FIREPHOENIX]]: I just wanted to give you a head's up that I am moving and consolidating some saved posts on the wiki that don't meet the current [[Help:Style/Formatting_special_articles#Saved_posts|Style Guide standards]] for saved posts. Most of them are being moved to the "/saved posts" subpage of relevant questlines, and I am updating any broken links made as a result of these moves. I didn't want to worry you with the sudden rearranging of data and related page deletion since they include a few of the saved posts that you have archived with your ongoing efforts to preserve game history. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 11:40, 21 July 2022 (CDT)

=== Wood Rarity Template Links ===

[[User talk:WINTERDAWN]]: Hi, WINTERDAWN. I just wanted to give you a head's up on why I reverted your changes to [[Template:Wood_Rarity_and_Use]] to remove the redlined links added. The additional links were all to existing real world trees that are not unique to Elanthia. While it is certainly fine for someone to eventually make pages for individual trees and add those links back in to the template, none of the trees with redlined links had anything unique to them in an Elanthian setting apart from their real world equivalents. Hopefully that helps clarify! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:43, 26 July 2022 (CDT)

=== Merchant NPC Pages ===

[[User_talk:ECHEAUX]]: Hi, ECHEAUX. Thank you for your many contributions to the wiki! Getting a lot of the information related to the ongoing Ebon Gate festival out there while it is still running is a big help to other players. Just as a head's up, I have reverted some of the updates you made to various merchant NPC pages. These are largely restricted to where historical information was removed, such as festival venues or various towns where the merchants have worked. I wanted to drop you a note to explain why those changes were reverted so that you weren't surprised by them.

I also have a question regarding the recent updates that you made to [[Template:Merchants]] and related updates to various merchant NPC pages. Looking at the template, it seems like the "venue" section is now much more restricted than before, limited to only a very small list of festivals instead of being more free form as it was in the past. Is that intended or just an oversight? We have so many different festival venues that limiting which ones the template could be used for seems counterproductive, especially if it means that historical information is not preserved. It also looks like you have added a "town" as a new section, which can only have one entry. Is "town" intended to be the merchant's home town? Or is it intended to be the town they most often work in among the various towns they frequent? Thank you for any insight you can offer. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:56, 26 October 2022 (CDT)

=== Works in Progress ===
[[User_talk:ECHEAUX]]: Hi there, ECHEAUX. I am slowly working through patrols of item script page updates, which I know you focused heavily on late last year. It looks like on several of them, mostly ones from October and November, you included the work-in-progress template to indicate you are still working on the pages, however many of them do not appear to have any recent updates in the past month+. While I don't believe these are all of them, they include [[AYRWT?]], [[Flask belt]], [[Ritualistic tool]], and a few others that look like they were from last year's Ebon Gate festival. Are you still actively working on some of these pages? If not, I'll remove the WIP template as I do the patrols to let other users know they are open for editing again. Thanks again for everything you do to help add to the wiki! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:29, 10 January 2023 (CST)
:I have responded to your question on my [[User_talk:ECHEAUX#Works_in_Progress|discussion page]].[[User:ECHEAUX|ECHEAUX]] ([[User talk:ECHEAUX|talk]]) 10:59, 10 January 2023 (CST)
::I have responded to your response :) [[User:ECHEAUX|ECHEAUX]] ([[User talk:ECHEAUX|talk]]) 11:57, 10 January 2023 (CST)

=== Page Moves ===
[[User talk:ECHEAUX]]: Hi, ECHEAUX. I noticed that when you set up the item script page for the [[Grooming locket]], you did so by moving one of your test/sandbox pages with a substantial edit history to the current page. In doing so, that also had the the effect of moving the entire page history for your test page, which included a large number of edits stemming from when you were testing out formatting for other item scripts unrelated to the Grooming locket. While the wiki team is very glad that you're using your test/sandbox pages to try out new things, the best practice in this instance would be to just cut and paste the source code from your test page into a newly created item page instead of moving it from your sandbox if there are unrelated edits in the test page's history. I know that you're very well versed in wiki use at this point, but if you'd like, I can help with that process for the Grooming locket page. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:49, 7 February 2023 (CST)
:Responded [[User:ECHEAUX|ECHEAUX]] ([[User talk:ECHEAUX|talk]]) 12:32, 7 February 2023 (CST)

===Talk Pages vs Articles===

[[User talk:WINTERDAWN]]: Hi, WINTERDAWN. I am reaching out to you because I am reverting back the edits on [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]] to include the full text of the letter instead of omitting portions of it. Could you help me understand why you removed portions of the letter? I understand that you also put the log of the letter being read aloud in game on the page's Talk page. However, the purpose of a Talk page is to provide notes about the main article, such as indicating permission to share something on behalf of another person, sharing incomplete research information, or asking a question/seeking clarification about the text of an article. Talk pages are not intended to be used as supplementary articles, nor should articles omit relevant information for the sake of sharing it on a Talk page. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:42, 8 February 2023 (CST)

:So there are two separate authors here: myself and WBURKE.

:When I first came across the letter as relayed by Cordarius, in user LEAFIARA's log, I thought, "this is very useful information that should probably be more accessible than in the middle of a log." However, it was late, and I was not necessarily wanting to embark on a lengthy project at the time, and so I literally just copy/pasted it into a separate wiki page (the awkwardly named one I marked for deletion).

:Soon after this, user WBURKE created a page to document the information relayed by that letter. The desire of my page was "here's the log so it's easier to find, maybe it'll be made nicer one day." The desire of their page was to focus on the specific points of interest in that letter. My focus was "here's the letter in full" while their focus was "here's the bullet points with regards to the Empire and Wehnimer's Landing." What they created is what I wanted the log to eventually turn into.

:I still felt it useful to have the log around, though, and so dumped it on the discussion page as I don't know where else to put it.

:As an aside, based on how this wiki is used, both in the past and currently, I feel that the discussion page is a fine spot for these types of things. On other wikis yes, you can have very lengthy conversations about the topics you listed, but that just doesn't really happen here on this one.

:Based on those guidelines we would need to move this content: [[Talk:Sanctify (330)]] and [[Talk:Introduction to the Confluence#The Mentor Event Itself]]. I feel that these bits, that are relevant to their pages, would detract from the pages themselves if added. The Sanctify content would just muddy the page and the Confluence content has no relevance on the guide itself. The Sanctify content would be easy enough to break out into it's own guide I guess, and I guess the Confluence content could just be added to my user page or something. /shrug

:Anyways, just my thoughts. At the end of the day you're the boss on this stuff so I acquiesce to what you feel is best :)

:[[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 16:58, 8 February 2023 (CST)

::Hi, WINTERDAWN. I am not ignoring your query; I am waiting on a response from the larger wiki team about how to approach this specific scenario. Generally speaking, any article's Talk page is not an appropriate venue for archiving important information. If the information is completed research, elaboration on topics contained within an article, or relevant log excerpts, that information should be on a main wiki article, not on a Talk page. Depending on what that information consists of, it could either be on the primary article itself or on a different article that is explicitly created to delve into a more complex concept.
::In the case of [[Talk:Sanctify (330)]], the information presented on it would be best in a main article and not on a Talk page; looking at the content, it does seem appropriate for a 330 guide article, as you pointed out (see [[Help:Style#User pages]]). In the case of [[Talk:Introduction to the Confluence]], this appears to be a log excerpt and would be appropriate for a page that is set up as an event log - in the format of "YYYY-MM-DD - Log Title (log)" (as per [[Help:Style/Formatting special articles#Logs]]). However, as the main page itself appears to be set up as a guide, which appears to be drawn from the log itself (or vice versa), it should adhere to the standards of creating a guide. My general recommendation would be to preserve an entire log, including the introduction that is currently on the Talk page as well as any followup questions to the presentation, as a log article and then maintain the existing article as a guide with the information presented as is. That said, because the log excerpt that was retained on the Talk page does not appear to contain information vital to the article itself or further elaboration on the information presented in it, I also don't see an issue with keeping it as is for this specific case.
::In the case of [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]], which led to this conversation, given the nature of this specific article as well as the duplicate information between it and the article [[Protectorate]], I am waiting on confirmation on how best to handle it before taking any further action. Unless another mod or GM weighs in before me, it will likely not be until next week that I can relay the final determination. I appreciate your patience and understanding with this. While the GS wiki does not get anywhere near as much traffic or use as Wikipedia, that does not mean that the GS wiki does not have its standards for how pages, including Talk pages, should be used. Those standards are also continually evolving as more content is added, and what may have been considered fine two years ago may have have updated standards today. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:40, 9 February 2023 (CST)
:::Hello again, WINTERDAWN. After consulting with the wiki team, I have adjusted [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]] to show the previous version of the text instead of the log. I have transcluded the identically presented information from [[Protectorate]] onto [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]]. I have updated text on the page to link to the log excerpt on [[Protectorate]] instead of referencing the article's talk page. I have also updated the article's Talk page to remove the previously saved log excerpt, to clarify what its purpose is, and to direct anyone viewing it to [[Protectorate#5123]], which is where the complete log excerpt is located. Again, to reiterate, the purpose of Talk pages is to facilitate discussion about an article, such as questions about an article, incomplete research, or citing when permission was granted to post on behalf of another person. They are not intended to serve as articles themselves. Logs and completed research should be either incorporated into the main article or in a supplementary article. Hopefully this helps clear up any confusion for you. Thank you again for your patience as I worked to resolve this. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:13, 14 February 2023 (CST)

::::Alright, thank you for this information and checking into things :) I'll work on the two pages I mentioned (and any others I come across later) as soon as I can. [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 05:18, 15 February 2023 (CST)

===Third Party Software===
[[User talk:GS4ALASTIR]]: Hi, GS4ALASTIR. I have followed up with the wiki team on a few recent edits that you made related to third-party software documentation on the wiki. Specifically, I am referring to the subpages you created associated with both [[Script Bigshot]] documentation and the main [[Script Eloot]] article. The wiki policy for documenting Lich software is viewable on [[Help:Style#Lich_information]]. You will need to get staff approval before creating any new Lich script pages or subpages by contacting the [mailto:gs4-wiki@play.net GSWiki email address]. (It is perfectly fine to continue to make edits to existing Lich script pages or subpages.) I will be taking the following steps:
* I am reverting the recent edits that you made to the [[Script Bigshot]] page to restore the information that was removed from it and moved onto the different subpages. Those subpages are:
** [[Script Bigshot/Profile tab]]
** [[Script Bigshot/Resting tab]]
** [[Script Bigshot/Hunting tab]]
** [[Script Bigshot/Attacking tab]]
** [[Script Bigshot/Commands tab]]
** [[Script Bigshot/Monitoring tab]]
** [[Script Bigshot/Misc tab]]
* I am adding a template on each of the Script Bigshot subpages noting that they are marked for deletion.
* I will be deleting each of the Script Bigshot subpages a week from today.
* I am adding a template onto the [[Script Eloot]] page noting that it is marked for deletion.
* I will be deleting [[Script Eloot]] a week from today.
* I am reverting the recent edits that you made to [[:Template:Third-Party Software]], which added a link and reference to the Script Eloot page.
Some of the information that you put onto the Script Bigshot subpages appears to be updated from how it was originally presented on the main article. I want to make sure that you have the opportunity to save or move that back on to the main approved script article before the subpages are permanently deleted. I also want to make sure that you have the same opportunity to save the information you wrote for the Script Eloot page. If you have any questions, please let me or another mod know, either via talk page or by asking on the official Discord server. Thanks for understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:27, 21 March 2023 (CDT)

===Character Vignettes===
[[User talk:LORDROELET]]: Hi there, LORDROELET. I wanted to let you know why I moved your [[Roelon (prime)/Vignette: Plea to the Wsalamir|Plea to the Wsalamir vignette]] back to where you had originally placed it on the wiki. The [[Help:Storyline guidelines#Character Vignettes|storyline guidelines]] were recently updated to address how character vignettes should be posted to the wiki, largely because most character vignettes were shared in response to storylines. Moving forward, their articles should be set up in the format of:
:<code><nowiki>Character name (instance)/Vignette name</nowiki></code>
In addition, they should not use the [[:Template:Creative-work#Character Vignettes|creative-work]] template as character vignettes are considered a form of "off screen roleplay" instead of a creative work like a poem or short story being told by a character. Thank you for sharing your character's vignettes on the wiki. If you have any questions, the best place to ask is on the Official GS Wiki discussion thread in the Discord forum's Help section. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:54, 5 April 2023 (CDT)

===Third Party Software and Scripts===
[[User talk:RINUALDO]]: Hi there, RINUALDO. I have followed up with the wiki team on some new articles you made associated with Lich script documentation. Specifically, I am referring to [[Script foreach]] and [[Script invdb]], which were made last week, plus [[Script Ebounty]], which was made late last year. The wiki policy for documenting Lich software is viewable on [[Help:Style#Lich_information]]. I have confirmed with the wiki team that permission was not given in advance of these articles being created. You will need to get staff approval before creating any new Lich script articles or subarticles by contacting the [mailto:gs4-wiki@play.net GSWiki email address]. (It is perfectly fine to continue to make edits to existing Lich script articles or subarticles.) I am taking the following steps:
* I am adding a template on all three pages noting that they are marked for deletion:
** [[Script foreach]]
** [[Script invdb]]
** [[Script Ebounty]]
* I will delete all three pages one week from today.
I understand that you are active in helping maintain the existing approved third party software articles so that they are accurate and easy to understand for the community. I want to make sure that you have the opportunity to save the information you wrote for the above three articles should they be approved for creation again at a later date. If you have any questions, please let me or another mod know, either via talk page or by asking on the official Discord server. Thank you for understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:03, 18 April 2023 (CDT)
:Putting stuff on talk pages with no way for a user to know that something exists unless they go to the wiki daily is a terrible, terrible way to communicate about deleting something with a timer.
:Can you please clarify "I have confirmed with the wiki team that permission was not given in advance of these articles being created" who you clarified this with?
::Hello again, RINUALDO. I am following up on your question from yesterday about the three articles you created for lich scripts. I did alert the wiki team of your message to me when you added it, and I am aware that staff were able to talk with you on Discord afterward and confirm that you did indeed have prior authorization for the invdb and foreach script articles.
::I would like to apologize on behalf of the wiki team for incorrectly flagging the [[Script foreach]] and [[Script invdb]] articles as not authorized. I am reverting my edits to both of those articles where I had added the delete template, and I am also putting a note on their respective Discussion tabs so that there is no confusion in the future. Unfortunately, the [[Script Ebounty]] article was not approved in advance of it being created, so I do need to delete it when the seven day window has concluded. Thank you for your patience and understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:37, 20 April 2023 (CDT)

The ebounty page was intended in the prior approval that was released. It was referenced in the email request, which I could have been more specific. As this has gone to Feedback, please do not delete anything until the issue is resolved.
:Hi, RINUALDO. I have relayed your message to me on my talk page to the wiki team . Also, just as an FYI if it is helpful, if you want to add on your user name and a timestamp of an edit to the end of the message, it is possible to do so with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:46, 25 April 2023 (CDT)
::Hi again, RINUALDO. I wanted to update you on the three articles I previously reached out to you about. I have removed the delete template and renamed the article for [[Lich:Script Ebounty]] to conform with the updated guidelines for Lich scripts on the wiki. I have also moved both [[Lich:Script invdb]] and [[Lich:Script foreach]] for the same reason. All three articles will need the forthcoming lich header template added to them once the template has been finalized. Thank you for your patience and understanding as the wiki guidelines continue to evolve. I appreciate your continued efforts to add documentation to the wiki to help other players better enjoy the game. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:23, 23 May 2023 (CDT)

===Thaumaturge Tome Script===
[[User talk:ALLENM20]]: Hello, ALLENM20. I am following up with you on behalf of the wiki team. I know that MOD-GSMOTTE already reached out to you about the [[Lich:Thaumaturge Tome Script]] article that you previously wrote. In light of the updates to the wiki standards for lich script pages, the script article is now permitted on the wiki. I have moved the article so that its title properly conforms with these new standards (which adds Lich: at the start of the article title). The article will need to be updated with the forthcoming lich script template as soon as it is released. Thank you for your patience and understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:18, 30 May 2023 (CDT)

===Character Vignettes===
[[User talk:HALEM20]]: Hi again, HALEM20. Thank you for doing so many updates to help record events in the recent and ongoing Platinum storylines. I noticed that you recently added two character vignettes related to the [[:Category:What Lurks in the Dark|What Lurks in the Dark]] storyline that do not appear to be linked to your account based on prior edits to their respective character pages. If you are uploading vignettes on behalf of another player, you will need to very clearly state that on the Discussion tab for each page. The two vignettes are [[Jaired (platinum)/Loose Ends]] and [[Oliviero (platinum)/Interruption]]. To add that information, you will just need to click on the Discussion tab at the top of each article and note that you have permission to upload them. I recommend adding <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> to the end of it to make sure that you have a clear account/date/timestamp applied afterward. Thank you for understanding! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:17, 19 June 2023 (CDT)
:Hello, HALEM20. I previously reached out to you about two character vignettes related to the [[:Category:What Lurks in the Dark|What Lurks in the Dark]] storyline that you added to the wiki for characters that did not appear to be yours, based on prior edits to their respective character pages. I see that Oliviero's player did confirm that permission was given to upload [[Oliviero (platinum)/Interruption]] to the wiki, however there is still no indication that Jaired's player gave permission to upload [[Jaired (platinum)/Loose Ends]]. GSwiki has recently updated its copyright policy with regard to posting works created by another person. I have flagged the "Interruption" vignette for not being in compliance with the updated [[Gswiki:Policy]] for [[GSwiki:Policy#Copyrights|Copyrights]] on works created by someone other than the uploader. A statement that the vignette was uploaded with permission by the author must be added to the vignette's [[Talk:Jaired (platinum)/Loose Ends|Discussion tab]]. '''If that is not added within 7 days, it will be deleted from the wiki.''' If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for copyrights on articles, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926|Discord forum's wiki thread]. Thank you for your understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:34, 13 July 2023 (CDT)

=== Blanked Article===
[[User talk:PAELA]]: Hi there, PAELA. I noticed that you created two articles for your vignette, "Disturbing News", and then went back and deleted all of the text on the duplicate article. The one that still has text is [[Agathilea (prime)/Disturbing News]] while the one that has had all text removed is [[Agathilea (prime)/Disturbing News/Disturbing News]]. Did you remove all the text because you wanted the second article to be deleted? Putting <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki> on an article is the best way to let a wiki Mod know that the page was created in error and should be deleted from the wiki instead of just removing all of the text on it. If that is what you would like to be done, please add the delete template to the article so another mod or I can remove it for you. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:14, 9 August 2023 (CDT)

===Recent Edits===
[[User talk:LUXELLE]]: Hi there, LUXELLE. I'd like to thank you for your many contributions to the wiki, especially for your guides to help other players better enjoy the various festivals and events in game. I know that you frequently collaborate with other players to write some of your guides. Another user recently made some edits to one of your guides, [[Duskruin primer]], that I was not sure were intended by you or your team. They do not appear to be malicious in nature, however I did want to reach out to you about if they were intended to be part of the article. The edits are a new section at the end of the article, [[Duskruin primer#All the big credit givings|All the big credit givings]]. If these edits were not intended by you or your team, either you can delete them or you can let me know and another mod or I would be happy to delete them for you. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:26, 16 August 2023 (CDT)

===Images and Article Edits at Risk for Deletion===
[[User talk:CELLORA]]: Hi there, CELLORA. In reviewing some recent updates to the wiki, I saw that you have made quite a few edits to [[Sorlu (prime)]], which appears to be a character page for someone else's character. There is no indication anywhere that Sorlu's player gave you permission to create or edit a character page on their behalf. [[Gswiki:Policy]] prohibits users from editing character pages unless the character is theirs or they have been given permission by that character's player to make those edits. If you do have permission to edit Sorlu's character page, you will need to indicate this by clearly stating it on its Discussion/Talk tab, [[Talk:Sorlu (prime)]], that you have been given permission to do so by his player. Alternatively, Sorlu's player can put that information on the discussion page. When adding that information, please make sure to add <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end of your comments, which will automatically add a "signature" with your user name, plus the date and time of when your edit was made.

In addition, there are a couple of images that I have flagged, all of which appear related to the same character article. I think I understand what is going on with the images but would appreciate some clarification from you if my understanding is correct.
* [[:File:Nalfein Crest.png]] - This image appears to be a duplicate of [[:File:A Nalfein Crest.png]]. It is not used on any articles. An earlier edit by you to the file noted you as being the creator.
* [[:File:A Nalfein Crest.png]] - This image appears on [[Sorlu (prime)]]. This image notes Sorlu as being the creator, as does the caption you added to Sorlu's character page.
Can you confirm who created the image? It appears that Sorlu's player created it, you erroneously placed your name on "Nalfein Crest" then removed it, then reuploaded the image crediting Sorlu. Is that accurate? If so, I will delete the first duplicate file as it is not used anywhere.
* [[:File:Nalfein Crest 3.png]] - This image appears to be a duplicate of [[:File:Rotting Nalfein Cret.png]]. It is not used on any articles. This image notes you as being the creator, not Sorlu's player.
* [[:File:Rotting Nalfein Cret.png]] This image appears on [[Sorlu (prime)]]. This image notes Sorlu as being the creator, as does the caption you added to Sorlu's character page.
Can you confirm who created the image? It appears that this is a similar situation as the above two images, where you first listed yourself as the creator then re-uploaded the image listing Sorlu as the creator. If that is the case, I will delete the first duplicate file as it is not used anywhere.

In all cases, '''If that information is not added within 7 days, your edits to the character page and the impacted images will be deleted from the wiki.''' Thank you very much for clearly taking steps to fully credit images, not just who created them but also if permission was granted to upload them. That is a big help for moderators like me as we review edits to the wiki. If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for editing character pages, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926%7CDiscord forum's wiki thread]. Thank you for understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 11:02, 29 August 2023 (CDT)

Hello! Yes, I made a mistake on the images and couldn't figure out how to fix it without uploading new ones. If you could please delete the first ones, that would be great! He created them. I'm still figuring out the flagging and all of that for the wiki. I will add a note on the page that he gave me permission to create the page as well. [[User:CELLORA|CELLORA]] ([[User talk:CELLORA|talk]]) 12:59, 29 August 2023 (CDT)

===Article/Edits at Risk for Deletion===
[[User talk:DASLOONIX]]: Hi again, DASLOONIX. In reviewing some recent updates to the wiki, I saw that you have made quite a few edits to [[Sorlu (prime)]], which appears to be a character page for someone else's character. There is no indication anywhere that Sorlu's player gave you permission to create or edit a character page on their behalf. [[Gswiki:Policy]] prohibits users from editing character pages unless the character is theirs or they have been given permission by that character's player to make those edits. If you do have permission to edit Sorlu's character page, you will need to indicate this by clearly stating it on its Discussion/Talk tab, [[Talk:Sorlu (prime)]], that you have been given permission to do so by his player. Alternatively, Sorlu's player can put that information on the discussion page. When adding that information, please make sure to add <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end of your comments, which will automatically add a "signature" with your user name, plus the date and time of when your edit was made. '''If that information is not added within 7 days, your edits to that article will be deleted from the wiki.''' If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for editing character pages, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926%7CDiscord forum's wiki thread]. Thank you for understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 11:02, 29 August 2023 (CDT)

===Images and Article Edits at Risk for Deletion===
[[User talk:CHADDEAUX]]: Hello, CHADDEAUX. I am reaching out to you about two things.

First, a few years ago you created and edited a character page article, [[Dirvy (prime)]], which has since then been edited by another user. There is no indication anywhere that Dirvy's player gave you permission to create or edit a character page on their behalf. [[Gswiki:Policy]] prohibits users from creating or editing character pages unless the character is theirs or they have been given permission by that character's player to make those edits. If you do have permission to edit Dirvy's character page, you will need to indicate this by clearly stating it on its Discussion/Talk tab, [[Talk:Dirvy (prime)]], that you have been given permission to do so by her player. Alternatively, Dirvy's player can put that information on the discussion page. When adding that information, please make sure to add <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end of your comments, which will automatically add a "signature" with your user name, plus the date and time of when your edit was made.

Second, you previously uploaded three images to the wiki which are missing some required information. GSwiki now has a new policy for all images uploaded to it. Please see [[Gswiki:Policy#Copyrights]] for more information about that policy and the requirement to note image creators, what AI imaging software was used (if any), and if permission was granted by the creator to upload the image to the wiki.
* [[:File:Dirvy Britbane medium.jpg]] - Thank you for already stating that Stormyrain created this artwork. You will need to add whether Stormyrain also gave you permission to upload the image onto the wiki. This information will need to be noted both on the image file as well as all articles displaying it.
* [[:File:Dirvy by Flimbo.jpg]] - Thank you for already stating that Flimbo created this artwork. You will need to add whether Flimbo also gave you permission to upload the image onto the wiki. This information will need to be noted both on the image file as well as all articles displaying it.
* [[:File:Zailon.png]] - Thank you for already stating that Flimbo created this artwork. You will need to add whether Flimbo also gave you permission to upload the image onto the wiki. This information will need to be noted both on the image file as well as all articles displaying it.
In all cases for the character page and the three images, '''if the required information is not added within 7 days, the edits to the character page and the images will be deleted from the wiki.''' If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for images, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926%7CDiscord forum's wiki thread]. Thank you for understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:50, 17 October 2023 (CDT)

===Images and Article Edits at Risk for Deletion===
[[User talk:TWILSON]]: Hello, TWILSON. I am reaching out to you about two things.

First, you recently edited a character page article, [[Dirvy (prime)]], which was originally created and edited by another user. There is no indication anywhere that Dirvy's player gave you permission to create or edit a character page on their behalf. [[Gswiki:Policy]] prohibits users from creating or editing character pages unless the character is theirs or they have been given permission by that character's player to make those edits. If you do have permission to edit Dirvy's character page, you will need to indicate this by clearly stating it on its Discussion/Talk tab, [[Talk:Dirvy (prime)]], that you have been given permission to do so by her player. Alternatively, Dirvy's player can put that information on the discussion page. When adding that information, please make sure to add <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end of your comments, which will automatically add a "signature" with your user name, plus the date and time of when your edit was made.

Second, you recently uploaded an image to the wiki, [[:File:Dirvy gencraft image.jpg]], which is missing some required information. GSwiki now has a new policy for all images uploaded to it. Please see [[Gswiki:Policy#Copyrights]] for more information about that policy and the requirement to note image creators, what AI imaging software was used (if any), and if permission was granted by the creator to upload the image to the wiki. Images using AI software in their creation are also required to be included in [[:Category:AI artwork]] Thank you for already noting that it was created using AI software. You will need to add who created the image and, if that person is not you, if you had permission to upload it to the wiki. This information will need to be noted both on the image file as well as any articles displaying it.

In all cases for the character page and the image, '''if the required information is not added within 7 days, the edits to the character page and the image will be deleted from the wiki.''' If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for images, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926%7CDiscord forum's wiki thread]. Thank you for understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:49, 17 October 2023 (CDT)

===Blanked article===
[[User talk:GS4ALASTIR]]: Hi there, GS4ALASTIR. I noticed that you created an article for [[Emberthorn Refuge]] with a lot of information on it then shortly afterward went back and removed all of the text. Are you trying to have the article deleted? If so, placing <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki> on an article flags it for mods to review for deletion. Thanks again for your many contributions! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 11:25, 12 September 2023 (CDT)

===Short Story Question===

[[User talk:CHIVERSFREE1]]: Hello, CHIVERSFREE1. The wiki team is currently working on some updates for the style guide as it relates to various types of creative works, including short stories and vignettes. This includes better defining what different creative works are so that they are better reflected with the creative-works template, article titles, etc., to help out both contributors and other players accessing the wiki. I know that you have been working on several lengthy articles, such as [[The Reckoning (short story)]], which might span several categories of creative works. I was hoping that you could share some insight on how you have approached writing articles like it.

You have "The Reckoning" labeled as a short story with the creative-works template. It appears to be a series of glimpses into off-screen/out-of-game roleplay focusing on your character as opposed to a short story written or shared by your character or set within Elanthia in general. Would you feel that is accurate - that it is more a lengthy series of off-screen vignettes as opposed to a formal short story? It also appears that there are sometimes contributions by other authors, such as chapters where Rohese and Mirkk are having a conversation or actively doing things together. Is "The Reckoning" retelling events that have taken place in game in a prose format (as opposed to a log format)? In some ways, it seems like it might almost be a [[Help:Storyline guidelines#Player-Run Storylines|player-run storyline]] focusing on Rohese's personal growth and evolution.

Thank you in advance for any insight you can offer. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:33, 3 October 2023 (CDT)

===Duplicate Logs===
[[User talk:TUMARA]]: Hi there, TUMARA. You recently added two logs that appear to be identical to the wiki. Can you please clarify which one you intended to keep? You can do this by editing the duplicate log that you want deleted and adding <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki> somewhere on that log article. That flags it for a mod to delete. The two logs are:
* [[The Heads Rolled (Battle Log)]]
* [[The Heads Rolled--Battle Log]]
I will update the one you intended to keep with the correct log title once you have identified it. It will end up as titled "Evermore Hollow - 2023-10-23 - The Heads Rolled Battle (log)", per [[Gswiki:Style guide/Formatting special articles#Logs]]. If you do not note which article you prefer to keep within 7 days, then I will delete the newer article and keep the older one. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:35, 31 October 2023 (CDT)

===Uploaded Images and Captions===
[[User talk:PTOLEMY]]: Hello, PTOLEMY. I have updated the image captions for all new images you added to your character page, [[Jaysehn (prime)]]. GSwiki now has a new policy for all images uploaded to it. Please see [[Gswiki:Policy#AI-Generated Artwork]] for more information about that policy and how it pertains to any images created with AI imaging software. AI generated images cannot be noted as copyrighted, and the captions displaying AI generated images must reflect the same information as what you indicated in their file uploads. I have already updated the captions based on information you provided with the uploaded files, however please keep this in mind with any future use of them or other AI-generated images. In addition, I have also already added the required [[:Category:AI artwork]] for all of your recently uploaded images. If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for images, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926%7CDiscord forum's wiki thread]. Thank you for your help with this process. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:08, 7 November 2023 (CST)

===Duplicate Article===
[[User talk:PTOLEMY]]: Hello, PTOLEMY. You recently created two identical articles, [[Paid in Full]] and [[Jaysehn (prime)/Reflections/Paid in Full]]. I suspect that the second is the article you intended to create and the first was made in error, due to the second following the Style Guide's standards for personal vignettes. Can you please confirm which duplicate should be deleted? This can be done by editing the one you wish deleted and putting in the <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki> template anywhere on the article. If I do not hear any response from you in one week, I will mark [[Paid in Full]] with the delete template for mod review and deletion. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:45, 13 December 2023 (CST)

===Images and Article Edits at Risk for Deletion===

[[User talk:PTOLEMY]]:Hi, PTOLEMY. I'm reaching out to you about a couple of things.

First, I'm contacting you about the recent images that you have uploaded to the wiki. The requirements for posting images to the wiki has changed this past year. Please see [[Gswiki:Policy#Copyrights]] for more information about that policy and the requirement to note image creators, what AI imaging software was used (if any), and if permission was granted by the creator to upload the image to the wiki. In addition, all images using AI generating software are required to include <nowiki>[[Category:AI artwork]]</nowiki> on the files themselves. I have edited all but two of the files that you have uploaded to include this, however in the future if this continues to be omitted, I will begin flagging those files for moderater review/deletion. This text should be added as part of the image file description when you upload it, or edited it into the image file description after uploading. The two files I have not edited to include this information are outlined in the next paragraph.

Second, you recently edited a character page, [[Hadya (prime)]], which has been maintained by another user. There is no indication anywhere that Hadya's player gave you permission to edit a character page on their behalf. [[Gswiki:Policy]] prohibits users from creating or editing character pages unless the character is theirs or they have been given permission by that character's player to make those edits. If you do have permission to edit Hadya's character page, you will need to indicate this by clearly stating it on its Discussion tab, [[Talk:Hadya (prime)]], that you have been given permission to do so by her player. Alternatively, Hadya's player can put that information on the discussion tab. When adding that information, please make sure to add <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end of your comments, which will automatically add a "signature" with your user name, plus the date and time of when your edit was made. I am flagging the edits you made to this article as well as the two images you uploaded for it as not following [[Gswiki:Policy]] requiring permission from the character's player. The two impacted images are [[:File:Hadya AI Ptolemy.jpg]] and [[:File:HadyaSummons AI Ptolemy.jpg]]. These two images are also missing the required <nowiki>[[Category:AI artwork]]</nowiki>.

'''If that information is not added within 7 days, these images and article edits will be deleted from the wiki.''' Please do not remove the <nowiki>{{moddelete}}</nowiki> template from the images and article displaying them. Another moderator or I will remove that template after your updates have been reviewed to ensure that they meet [[Gswiki:Policy]] requirements. If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for images, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926 Discord forum's wiki thread]. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:25, 20 December 2023 (CST)

===Duplicate Images===
[[User talk:LYSTRA]]: Hi there, LYSTRA. You recently uploaded two images to the wiki that appear to be duplicates of one another except with slightly different resolutions. The two image files are [[:File:Fyg-kitten.png]] (1024x1024 pixels) and [[:File:Fyg-kitten1.png]] (500x500 pixels). Can you please let me know which of the two you had intended to keep on the wiki and which is the duplicate that should be deleted? I will remove the duplicate image. You can let me or another moderator know by adding <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki> to the image file that was uploaded in error, or you can respond here. If I do not hear back from you in one week, I will flag the image with the lower resolution for mod review and deletion. In addition, all images using AI software in their creation are required to be included in [[:Category:AI artwork]]. To add that text to an image file, you will need to click on "Edit Source" on the image file itself and add <nowiki>[[Category:AI artwork]]</nowiki>. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:01, 20 December 2023 (CST)
:[[:File_talk:Fyg-kitten1.png]]: This image appears to be a lower resolution duplicate of [[:File:Fyg-kitten.png]] and is not used on any articles. It will be deleted in favor of the higher resolution image unless the uploader requests that this image be kept and the higher resolution image be deleted instead. Uploader originally contacted on 12/20/23 regarding the existence of a duplicate image and informed of this next step. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:06, 27 December 2023 (CST)

===Article Edits at Risk for Deletion===
[[User talk:SWEETLITTLEAGONY]]: Hello, SWEETLITTLEAGONY. In reviewing some recent updates to the wiki, I saw that you have made changes to [[Lissaya (prime)]], which appears to be a character page for someone else's character as the article was originally created by a different account. There is no indication anywhere that Lissaya's player gave you permission to edit a character page on their behalf. [[Gswiki:Policy]] prohibits users from editing character pages unless the character is theirs or they have been given permission by that character's player to make those edits. If you do have permission to edit Lissaya's character page, you will need to indicate this by clearly stating it on its Discussion tab, [[Talk:Lissaya (prime)]], that you have been given permission to do so by her player. Alternatively, Lissaya's player can put that information on the discussion page. When adding that information, please make sure to add <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end of your comments, which will automatically add a "signature" with your user name, plus the date and time of when your edit was made. '''If that information is not added within 7 days, your edits to that article will be deleted from the wiki.''' If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for editing character pages, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926 Discord forum's wiki thread]. Thank you for understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:49, 20 December 2023 (CST)

===Edits to Announcements===
[[User talk:CHAPSICKLE2]]: Hi there, CHAPSICKLE2. Your recent edits to [[Announcement: Spell Disabler Review Live!]] were reverted as they violated [[Gswiki:Policy]], which states "Articles may be created or edited freely with the exception of: Announcements, Official Documentation, and Official Vignettes - Created by GameMasters only, handled by GameMasters and Moderators only." This is not an official warning or anything as the edits do appear to have been made in good faith. I have moved a copy of your added comments to the Announcement's Discussion/Talk tab, which can be accessed at [[Talk:Announcement: Spell Disabler Review Live!]]. In the future, please use the Discussion/Talk tab when adding notes related to official staff announcements if there is not a primary non-announcement article for the update discussed. Thank you for understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:21, 16 January 2024 (CST)

===Edits to Character Pages/Subpages===
[[User talk:AFALLACE]]: Hi there, AFALLACE. I'm reaching out to you about recent edits you made to a couple of articles and sub-articles related to [[Jaired (platinum)]] and [[Jaired (platinum)/The Saga of Jaired Delone (short story)]]. There are a couple different accounts that have edited the content of these articles for things other than minor moderation or formatting updates. Only a player or someone to whom they have given permission may update a character's page per [[Gswiki:Policy]]. I do see that you have made nearly all content changes to Jaired's character page since its creation, however they do include substantial edits to the vignette subarticle that was authored by a different account. Can you please clarify where permissions stand for editing these by Jaired's player? I realize this might be a case of having multiple accounts, however there is no way for me to verify this as a moderator. If I don't hear back from you in 7 days, I will flag some of these updates for moderator review. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:15, 17 January 2024 (CST)

===Modified Artwork===
[[User talk:JSEVERNS]]: Hi there, JSEVERNS. Several years ago, you uploaded an image, [[:File:Teras Isle Regional final.jpg]]. Recently, another user modified your image to create [[:File:Teras Isle Discovery of Kragnek Dzu (Oro).png]]. The other user did note that your image was the original source, however there is no note that they have artist permission to make modifications for it. I also was not able to find any remarks on your original image file or its related captions that you have given any sort of blanket permission for modifications by others. Can you please clarify if permission was given? While your image does depict a map, it is considered artwork for the purposes of [[Gswiki:Policy#Copyrights]] and is protected under that section. If I don't hear back from you within 7 days, I will flag the new image for moderator review. You can respond either here or on my user talk page. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 11:15, 17 January 2024 (CST)

[[User talk:JGENGLISH]]: Hi there, JGENGLISH. You recently uploaded an image, [[:File:Teras Isle Discovery of Kragnek Dzu (Oro).png]], which appears to be modified from an image originally created by another artist, [[:File:Teras Isle Regional final.jpg]]. I do see that you included in the caption a note about the original image. Can you please clarify if the original artist gave you permission to modify their image? I don't see that remarked on anywhere in your upload notes/captions. While the image does depict a map, it is considered artwork for the purposes of [[Gswiki:Policy#Copyrights]] and is protected under that section. If I don't hear back from you within 7 days, I will flag the image for moderator review. You can respond either here or on my user talk page. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 11:15, 17 January 2024 (CST)

[[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET]]: Hey there. Just putting my response here to this as well: "Hello HOST-GSKEBECHET! Thanks, sorry. Yes, Aloska (JSEVERNS) gave me permission to edit their original artwork. I will add this to the image description. Should I also add it to the caption? I can ask him to check his TALK page here if that would also help."

== Uploaded Image Patrol ==

Moved to [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET/Image patrols]].

== Elanthian Journals ==

By chance are you able to see the old Elanthian Journal pages that were deleted? I just realized.. one thing I never did is check each one to see what linked to them. I just found a page that linked to a Journal :| [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 16:52, 12 August 2022 (CDT)
:Unfortunately, no. Once a page is deleted, it is gone-gone. However, I was able to pull up a list of broken links and adjusted seven pages that appeared to reference the old Elanthian Journal pages. That should hopefully have caught any others that were overlooked! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:45, 16 August 2022 (CDT)
::Thank you for this! Sorry for the extra work. [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 15:44, 16 August 2022 (CDT)
:::Very welcome! Thank you for bringing up the potential of broken links. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:14, 17 August 2022 (CDT)

== Merchants template ==

I cobbled that template together in 2019, as a pet project, when things were a little more relaxed. So many people were "remember that one merchant? Where were they?? What did they look like??", that it felt like a good addition. Anyway, it was a build based on a template someone else had done, as you've likely read. I had planned on continuing work on it, then COVID hit and I turned into a homeschool teacher for two young teenagers.

Venues: the primary reason I changed those venues was because it was putting so many merchants into categories that didn't exist, and may not have been the best one for them to go into ''at the time''. By restricting category to "wandering" and others that already had a category made, it cut down on "red links"; '''wandering''' moved them into a common category and could be changed later. '''Generally speaking''', if they had a mention in their blurb as to what venue they attended, I removed the category that was causing a red link, although any that did not were likely an oversight (the notable exception being Elsia - I forgot to research her item, '''Fancy Coats''', so I could add the venue).

Towns: it was my intention to adapt the template to allow them to be placed into the category '''for that town'''. An example would be citizen-only merchants such as Duvernith or Davro. I admittedly got wrapped up in EG item-adding and had not gotten back to fixing the "town" venue to populate into town pages instead of '''Town''' NPCs, a category that doesn't exist, so I just left town uncategorized for the time being.

Many of those merchants I added myself with no real idea of what venues they had visited, in that hopes of at least having an appearance and a basic blurb to be expanded upon later. I had intended to continue with the work after EG and add category pages where appropriate. That section of the template might get pretty long for particularly industrious merchants! '''Wandering''' seemed like a good fit if they didn't have what might be considered a "primary festival" (for example, I wouldn't be surprised to see Elusionari in a lot of places!).

That said, I get that once you add a template, you basically lose any claim to it being "yours". However, no one else really took an interest in it, and I was told it would need work anyway, so I figured I was all right to try to adapt it to '''not''' use non-existent categories for the time being, since many (most?) of them had venue linked in the blurb or the body of the article. (TL:DR yet? LOL)[[User:ECHEAUX|ECHEAUX]] ([[User talk:ECHEAUX|talk]]) 12:09, 26 October 2022 (CDT)

== Table updates ==

Hello! As I'm sure you've noticed, I've been going through and updating older items to the newer templates. A lot of them are simple, but some of them require more time; much more time in some cases. For those, fortunately, a lot them are more or less copy and paste for the verb lists with a few minor tweaks. I noticed that on a couple of them you've gone back and added in formatting for data tables for accessibility purposes. I read up on that today and I'll be sure to add that going forward, but I was wondering: Is there a way you are finding those that need it or are you just kind of seeing them as I'm doing them? I'd be more than happy to go back correct the formatting on those, but if there's a way I can find them more "wholesale" than "piecemeal", that would make the job easier. [[User:ECHEAUX|ECHEAUX]] ([[User talk:ECHEAUX|talk]]) 17:40, 9 November 2022 (CST)
:Hi there! Part of my duties as one of our wiki mods are to review recent page changes to ensure that they are appropriate to the wiki, are accurate, are appropriately named as a page or subpage, and that they generally comply with the wiki style guide. So you'll see me doing things like updating pages to use new template standards, moving pages that aren't named properly, fixing redirects or broken links, updating categories, reviewing pages listed in [[:Category:Marked for Deletion]], and similar "moderator" type duties focused on overall wiki consistency that are not expected of general users who instead are adding new content to the wiki. One of the standards set out by the style guide and the wiki team is to ensure that the wiki is as accessible as possible to everyone, including our users who rely on a screen reader. If I run across any pages during my patrols that don't meet current standards, including tables that are not set up in a way for screen readers to properly capture, part of my job as a moderator is to update them accordingly. Since you have been incredibly active on the wiki over the past couple of months, I am much more likely to review your edits than other users due to sheer volume; that's why it might look like I'm going back to change pages you've touched more so than other users. Thanks for inquiring! If you'd like to know more about our moderator team or what our role is, I encourage you to ask on the Gemstone Discord's #wiki-talk channel where one of the GMs overseeing the wiki can chime in. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:11, 10 November 2022 (CST)
::Oh, I understand that. I just wasn't sure if there was an easy way to see pages with certain errors so I could fix those that I missed them on. I can go through my contribution list and do it, though. Thanks for getting back to me![[User:ECHEAUX|ECHEAUX]] ([[User talk:ECHEAUX|talk]]) 10:34, 10 November 2022 (CST)

== Northern Sentinel's Decree==

Hello! My intention with this page was to list only the legal characteristics of the Landing's protectorate status. I deliberately did not want to include the preamble and ending of the letter, as they did not carry legal weight. As such, I would like to revert it to a version which contains only those legal characteristics. In my view, a log page or official document page would be more appropriate for recording the entire letter. [[User:WBURKE1|WBURKE1]] ([[User talk:WBURKE1|talk]])
:Hi, WBURKE1. Thanks for reaching out to me! I am not ignoring your query; I am waiting on a response from the larger wiki team about how to approach this specific scenario with the article [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]]. As I explained to WINTERDAWN, generally speaking an article's Talk page is not an appropriate venue for archiving important information. Given the nature of this specific article as well as the duplicate information between it and the article [[Protectorate]], I am waiting on confirmation on how best to handle it before taking any further action. Unless another mod or GM weighs in before me, it will likely not be until next week that I can relay the final determination. I appreciate your patience and understanding with this. Thank you again for all of your contributions to the wiki. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:40, 9 February 2023 (CST)
::Hello again, WBURKE1. After consulting with the wiki team, I have adjusted [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]] to show the previous version of the text instead of the log. I have transcluded the identically presented information from [[Protectorate]] onto [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]]. I have updated text on the page to link to the log excerpt on [[Protectorate]] instead of referencing the article's talk page. I have also updated the article's Talk page to remove the previously saved log excerpt, to clarify what its purpose is, and to direct anyone viewing it to [[Protectorate#5123]], which is where the complete log excerpt is located. This should help ensure that the intent behind the original page, which is to succinctly state the terms of the Landing's Protectorate status, is maintained while still preserving information. Thank you again for your patience as I worked to resolve this. Please let me know if you have any further questions or concerns. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:13, 14 February 2023 (CST)
:::Thanks for this resolution and for all your hard work! [[User:WBURKE1|WBURKE1]] ([[User talk:WBURKE1|talk]]) 12:39, 14 February 2023 (CST)

== Images ==

They're different images, please look more closely.

== I don't know what I'm doing! ==

Hi, I tried to DM, failed! But found.. this space. And I have no idea if I'm doing it correctly. I READ WHAT YOU WROTE and thank you for what was pointed out I will work on figuring out how to fix it, it just might not be instantly remedied (not too long, just not a finger-snap of time, I'm still figuring stuff out!) -DASLOONIX

== 5mb File Size Down to 2mb ==

I'm noticing that the wiki now has a 2mb file size limit when it used to be 5mb. Is this an unintended result of the recent update or is it intentional? I'm trying to update my OSA maps but the 2mb limit is going to cause a huge loss in quality on them. Thoughts? If it's intentional, perhaps you or an admin could override the setting and post the two maps for me? [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 19:56, 7 January 2024 (CST)
:I do not know about any details related to maximum file size changes. I have relayed your question to the wiki team and will respond on your user talk page when I have more information. While you are welcome to reach out to me (or other mods) with questions like this, you can also ask them on the [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926 Discord forum's wiki thread], where you may receive a faster response. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:08, 9 January 2024 (CST)
::Just checking in :) [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 23:41, 15 January 2024 (CST)
:::Hi, again! I did inquire but still have no update. The wiki team is relaying your question to onside/IT alongside several other extensions and related requests. As a result, this will take much more time to answer than most questions due to it being outside the scope of what the wiki team can address. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:01, 16 January 2024 (CST)
::::Okay, thank you! In the meantime, is this something you or an admin have the power to override for the 2 map files? [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 18:28, 16 January 2024 (CST)
:::::No, this is outside the purview of what the wiki team is able to do. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:27, 17 January 2024 (CST)
::::::Okay, thank you! [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 21:24, 18 January 2024 (CST)

User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET

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JGENGLISH: /* Modified Artwork */

== Have a question or comment? ==

HOST-GSKEBECHET (talk | contribs) (Added back in the OTS analyze and rearranged a couple things to conform with item script style guide.)

You added back in the Tier 1 analyze in the OTS section. [[User:GS4ALASTIR|GS4ALASTIR]] ([[User talk:GS4ALASTIR|talk]]) 10:46, 25 April 2023 (CDT)

Hello, I added a line that Stormyrain gave permission to use the image of the Sisters on the wiki [[User:STACYWALTER|STACYWALTER]] ([[User talk:STACYWALTER|talk]]) 06:16, 12 October 2023 (CDT)

You're doing great work. Thank you, I appreciate it. [[User:VANKRASN39|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39|talk]]) 11:42, 7 November 2023 (CST)
:Thank you! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]])

Hi, I got your message about the copywrite problems with my image. I created the image myself using Artflow.ai but I have literally no idea how to comply with your request and I can barely even understand it. I cant find the Discord page you linked to either. Could you please walk me through this step by step? I have almost no skill at coding or using the wiki...I created my page by simple cut and paste and rewriting.

Thank you,
Toxyrox

PS if it would be easier on Discord, my username there is Avondell.
:Thank you very much! I have responded on your talk page.[[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:37, 15 November 2023 (CST)

== Cross-posts of user:talk notes ==

=== Animalistic Spirit Shield iteminfo ===

[[User_talk:GS4ALASTIR]]: Hi, Alastir. Thank you very much for contributing so many different things to the various item script pages! Just as a head's up, I rolled back one of your changes made a while ago to the [[Animalistic_Spirit_Shield|Animalistic Spirit Shield]] page, where you had accidentally removed the iteminfo section. I have added back in the iteminfo section so that it properly displays; it's actually an important template to keep in place for scripted items as it helps populate other categories on the wiki, making it easier to cross-reference related things. Thanks for understanding! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:55, 21 June 2022 (CDT)

=== Category: Marked for Deletion ===

[[User talk:WINTERDAWN]]: Thank you for all of the contributions you've made toward archiving all of the Elanthian Journals! Just as a reminder, please use <nowiki>[[Category:Marked for Deletion]]</nowiki> on a page when you would like it deleted. I went ahead and deleted the Journal pages you had cleared and replaced with the text, "Things to be deleted by Simu Admin." because your intent appeared to be very clear, however using the Category instead would make it easier for any mods to see those pages as part of weekly patrols for page deletion requests. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:39, 7 July 2022 (CDT)
:Shoot. I was doing {{category... sorry about that! Also, sorry about the extra set of deletes that I created. I hope it wasn't too time consuming :| [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 13:01, 7 July 2022 (CDT)
::That's okay! It wasn't too time consuming. I just wanted to remind you about it for the future. Thank you again for all of your contributions![[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:37, 8 July 2022 (CDT)

=== Requesting Clarification ===

[[User_talk:FIREPHOENIX]]: Thank you for all of your contributions to preserving the-ever expanding game lore! I have a question regarding your recent edit to [[Ithzir_language_(essay)]]. Do you have the original author's permission to upload "Part 5" to the essay? I did not see you noting that anywhere on the essay's talk page ([[Talk:Ithzir_language_(essay)]]). When uploading someone else's work to the wiki on their behalf, it is important to note that on an individual creative work's talk page so that we have a clear understanding that permission was given by them. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:34, 14 July 2022 (CDT)

:I can confirm with Dergoaten shortly since he's an active player, unsure how to post approval, but it's been confirmed and directed towards https://gswiki.play.net/Ithzir_Genesis for the most current details [[User:FIREPHOENIX|FIREPHOENIX]] ([[User talk:FIREPHOENIX|talk]]) 23:26, 15 July 2022 (CDT)

:Dergoatean — Today at 11:16 PM
:Hi, you absolutely have my permission

::Thank you very much! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:36, 20 July 2022 (CDT)

=== Moving Saved Posts ===

[[User_talk:FIREPHOENIX]]: I just wanted to give you a head's up that I am moving and consolidating some saved posts on the wiki that don't meet the current [[Help:Style/Formatting_special_articles#Saved_posts|Style Guide standards]] for saved posts. Most of them are being moved to the "/saved posts" subpage of relevant questlines, and I am updating any broken links made as a result of these moves. I didn't want to worry you with the sudden rearranging of data and related page deletion since they include a few of the saved posts that you have archived with your ongoing efforts to preserve game history. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 11:40, 21 July 2022 (CDT)

=== Wood Rarity Template Links ===

[[User talk:WINTERDAWN]]: Hi, WINTERDAWN. I just wanted to give you a head's up on why I reverted your changes to [[Template:Wood_Rarity_and_Use]] to remove the redlined links added. The additional links were all to existing real world trees that are not unique to Elanthia. While it is certainly fine for someone to eventually make pages for individual trees and add those links back in to the template, none of the trees with redlined links had anything unique to them in an Elanthian setting apart from their real world equivalents. Hopefully that helps clarify! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:43, 26 July 2022 (CDT)

=== Merchant NPC Pages ===

[[User_talk:ECHEAUX]]: Hi, ECHEAUX. Thank you for your many contributions to the wiki! Getting a lot of the information related to the ongoing Ebon Gate festival out there while it is still running is a big help to other players. Just as a head's up, I have reverted some of the updates you made to various merchant NPC pages. These are largely restricted to where historical information was removed, such as festival venues or various towns where the merchants have worked. I wanted to drop you a note to explain why those changes were reverted so that you weren't surprised by them.

I also have a question regarding the recent updates that you made to [[Template:Merchants]] and related updates to various merchant NPC pages. Looking at the template, it seems like the "venue" section is now much more restricted than before, limited to only a very small list of festivals instead of being more free form as it was in the past. Is that intended or just an oversight? We have so many different festival venues that limiting which ones the template could be used for seems counterproductive, especially if it means that historical information is not preserved. It also looks like you have added a "town" as a new section, which can only have one entry. Is "town" intended to be the merchant's home town? Or is it intended to be the town they most often work in among the various towns they frequent? Thank you for any insight you can offer. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:56, 26 October 2022 (CDT)

=== Works in Progress ===
[[User_talk:ECHEAUX]]: Hi there, ECHEAUX. I am slowly working through patrols of item script page updates, which I know you focused heavily on late last year. It looks like on several of them, mostly ones from October and November, you included the work-in-progress template to indicate you are still working on the pages, however many of them do not appear to have any recent updates in the past month+. While I don't believe these are all of them, they include [[AYRWT?]], [[Flask belt]], [[Ritualistic tool]], and a few others that look like they were from last year's Ebon Gate festival. Are you still actively working on some of these pages? If not, I'll remove the WIP template as I do the patrols to let other users know they are open for editing again. Thanks again for everything you do to help add to the wiki! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:29, 10 January 2023 (CST)
:I have responded to your question on my [[User_talk:ECHEAUX#Works_in_Progress|discussion page]].[[User:ECHEAUX|ECHEAUX]] ([[User talk:ECHEAUX|talk]]) 10:59, 10 January 2023 (CST)
::I have responded to your response :) [[User:ECHEAUX|ECHEAUX]] ([[User talk:ECHEAUX|talk]]) 11:57, 10 January 2023 (CST)

=== Page Moves ===
[[User talk:ECHEAUX]]: Hi, ECHEAUX. I noticed that when you set up the item script page for the [[Grooming locket]], you did so by moving one of your test/sandbox pages with a substantial edit history to the current page. In doing so, that also had the the effect of moving the entire page history for your test page, which included a large number of edits stemming from when you were testing out formatting for other item scripts unrelated to the Grooming locket. While the wiki team is very glad that you're using your test/sandbox pages to try out new things, the best practice in this instance would be to just cut and paste the source code from your test page into a newly created item page instead of moving it from your sandbox if there are unrelated edits in the test page's history. I know that you're very well versed in wiki use at this point, but if you'd like, I can help with that process for the Grooming locket page. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:49, 7 February 2023 (CST)
:Responded [[User:ECHEAUX|ECHEAUX]] ([[User talk:ECHEAUX|talk]]) 12:32, 7 February 2023 (CST)

===Talk Pages vs Articles===

[[User talk:WINTERDAWN]]: Hi, WINTERDAWN. I am reaching out to you because I am reverting back the edits on [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]] to include the full text of the letter instead of omitting portions of it. Could you help me understand why you removed portions of the letter? I understand that you also put the log of the letter being read aloud in game on the page's Talk page. However, the purpose of a Talk page is to provide notes about the main article, such as indicating permission to share something on behalf of another person, sharing incomplete research information, or asking a question/seeking clarification about the text of an article. Talk pages are not intended to be used as supplementary articles, nor should articles omit relevant information for the sake of sharing it on a Talk page. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:42, 8 February 2023 (CST)

:So there are two separate authors here: myself and WBURKE.

:When I first came across the letter as relayed by Cordarius, in user LEAFIARA's log, I thought, "this is very useful information that should probably be more accessible than in the middle of a log." However, it was late, and I was not necessarily wanting to embark on a lengthy project at the time, and so I literally just copy/pasted it into a separate wiki page (the awkwardly named one I marked for deletion).

:Soon after this, user WBURKE created a page to document the information relayed by that letter. The desire of my page was "here's the log so it's easier to find, maybe it'll be made nicer one day." The desire of their page was to focus on the specific points of interest in that letter. My focus was "here's the letter in full" while their focus was "here's the bullet points with regards to the Empire and Wehnimer's Landing." What they created is what I wanted the log to eventually turn into.

:I still felt it useful to have the log around, though, and so dumped it on the discussion page as I don't know where else to put it.

:As an aside, based on how this wiki is used, both in the past and currently, I feel that the discussion page is a fine spot for these types of things. On other wikis yes, you can have very lengthy conversations about the topics you listed, but that just doesn't really happen here on this one.

:Based on those guidelines we would need to move this content: [[Talk:Sanctify (330)]] and [[Talk:Introduction to the Confluence#The Mentor Event Itself]]. I feel that these bits, that are relevant to their pages, would detract from the pages themselves if added. The Sanctify content would just muddy the page and the Confluence content has no relevance on the guide itself. The Sanctify content would be easy enough to break out into it's own guide I guess, and I guess the Confluence content could just be added to my user page or something. /shrug

:Anyways, just my thoughts. At the end of the day you're the boss on this stuff so I acquiesce to what you feel is best :)

:[[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 16:58, 8 February 2023 (CST)

::Hi, WINTERDAWN. I am not ignoring your query; I am waiting on a response from the larger wiki team about how to approach this specific scenario. Generally speaking, any article's Talk page is not an appropriate venue for archiving important information. If the information is completed research, elaboration on topics contained within an article, or relevant log excerpts, that information should be on a main wiki article, not on a Talk page. Depending on what that information consists of, it could either be on the primary article itself or on a different article that is explicitly created to delve into a more complex concept.
::In the case of [[Talk:Sanctify (330)]], the information presented on it would be best in a main article and not on a Talk page; looking at the content, it does seem appropriate for a 330 guide article, as you pointed out (see [[Help:Style#User pages]]). In the case of [[Talk:Introduction to the Confluence]], this appears to be a log excerpt and would be appropriate for a page that is set up as an event log - in the format of "YYYY-MM-DD - Log Title (log)" (as per [[Help:Style/Formatting special articles#Logs]]). However, as the main page itself appears to be set up as a guide, which appears to be drawn from the log itself (or vice versa), it should adhere to the standards of creating a guide. My general recommendation would be to preserve an entire log, including the introduction that is currently on the Talk page as well as any followup questions to the presentation, as a log article and then maintain the existing article as a guide with the information presented as is. That said, because the log excerpt that was retained on the Talk page does not appear to contain information vital to the article itself or further elaboration on the information presented in it, I also don't see an issue with keeping it as is for this specific case.
::In the case of [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]], which led to this conversation, given the nature of this specific article as well as the duplicate information between it and the article [[Protectorate]], I am waiting on confirmation on how best to handle it before taking any further action. Unless another mod or GM weighs in before me, it will likely not be until next week that I can relay the final determination. I appreciate your patience and understanding with this. While the GS wiki does not get anywhere near as much traffic or use as Wikipedia, that does not mean that the GS wiki does not have its standards for how pages, including Talk pages, should be used. Those standards are also continually evolving as more content is added, and what may have been considered fine two years ago may have have updated standards today. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:40, 9 February 2023 (CST)
:::Hello again, WINTERDAWN. After consulting with the wiki team, I have adjusted [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]] to show the previous version of the text instead of the log. I have transcluded the identically presented information from [[Protectorate]] onto [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]]. I have updated text on the page to link to the log excerpt on [[Protectorate]] instead of referencing the article's talk page. I have also updated the article's Talk page to remove the previously saved log excerpt, to clarify what its purpose is, and to direct anyone viewing it to [[Protectorate#5123]], which is where the complete log excerpt is located. Again, to reiterate, the purpose of Talk pages is to facilitate discussion about an article, such as questions about an article, incomplete research, or citing when permission was granted to post on behalf of another person. They are not intended to serve as articles themselves. Logs and completed research should be either incorporated into the main article or in a supplementary article. Hopefully this helps clear up any confusion for you. Thank you again for your patience as I worked to resolve this. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:13, 14 February 2023 (CST)

::::Alright, thank you for this information and checking into things :) I'll work on the two pages I mentioned (and any others I come across later) as soon as I can. [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 05:18, 15 February 2023 (CST)

===Third Party Software===
[[User talk:GS4ALASTIR]]: Hi, GS4ALASTIR. I have followed up with the wiki team on a few recent edits that you made related to third-party software documentation on the wiki. Specifically, I am referring to the subpages you created associated with both [[Script Bigshot]] documentation and the main [[Script Eloot]] article. The wiki policy for documenting Lich software is viewable on [[Help:Style#Lich_information]]. You will need to get staff approval before creating any new Lich script pages or subpages by contacting the [mailto:gs4-wiki@play.net GSWiki email address]. (It is perfectly fine to continue to make edits to existing Lich script pages or subpages.) I will be taking the following steps:
* I am reverting the recent edits that you made to the [[Script Bigshot]] page to restore the information that was removed from it and moved onto the different subpages. Those subpages are:
** [[Script Bigshot/Profile tab]]
** [[Script Bigshot/Resting tab]]
** [[Script Bigshot/Hunting tab]]
** [[Script Bigshot/Attacking tab]]
** [[Script Bigshot/Commands tab]]
** [[Script Bigshot/Monitoring tab]]
** [[Script Bigshot/Misc tab]]
* I am adding a template on each of the Script Bigshot subpages noting that they are marked for deletion.
* I will be deleting each of the Script Bigshot subpages a week from today.
* I am adding a template onto the [[Script Eloot]] page noting that it is marked for deletion.
* I will be deleting [[Script Eloot]] a week from today.
* I am reverting the recent edits that you made to [[:Template:Third-Party Software]], which added a link and reference to the Script Eloot page.
Some of the information that you put onto the Script Bigshot subpages appears to be updated from how it was originally presented on the main article. I want to make sure that you have the opportunity to save or move that back on to the main approved script article before the subpages are permanently deleted. I also want to make sure that you have the same opportunity to save the information you wrote for the Script Eloot page. If you have any questions, please let me or another mod know, either via talk page or by asking on the official Discord server. Thanks for understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:27, 21 March 2023 (CDT)

===Character Vignettes===
[[User talk:LORDROELET]]: Hi there, LORDROELET. I wanted to let you know why I moved your [[Roelon (prime)/Vignette: Plea to the Wsalamir|Plea to the Wsalamir vignette]] back to where you had originally placed it on the wiki. The [[Help:Storyline guidelines#Character Vignettes|storyline guidelines]] were recently updated to address how character vignettes should be posted to the wiki, largely because most character vignettes were shared in response to storylines. Moving forward, their articles should be set up in the format of:
:<code><nowiki>Character name (instance)/Vignette name</nowiki></code>
In addition, they should not use the [[:Template:Creative-work#Character Vignettes|creative-work]] template as character vignettes are considered a form of "off screen roleplay" instead of a creative work like a poem or short story being told by a character. Thank you for sharing your character's vignettes on the wiki. If you have any questions, the best place to ask is on the Official GS Wiki discussion thread in the Discord forum's Help section. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:54, 5 April 2023 (CDT)

===Third Party Software and Scripts===
[[User talk:RINUALDO]]: Hi there, RINUALDO. I have followed up with the wiki team on some new articles you made associated with Lich script documentation. Specifically, I am referring to [[Script foreach]] and [[Script invdb]], which were made last week, plus [[Script Ebounty]], which was made late last year. The wiki policy for documenting Lich software is viewable on [[Help:Style#Lich_information]]. I have confirmed with the wiki team that permission was not given in advance of these articles being created. You will need to get staff approval before creating any new Lich script articles or subarticles by contacting the [mailto:gs4-wiki@play.net GSWiki email address]. (It is perfectly fine to continue to make edits to existing Lich script articles or subarticles.) I am taking the following steps:
* I am adding a template on all three pages noting that they are marked for deletion:
** [[Script foreach]]
** [[Script invdb]]
** [[Script Ebounty]]
* I will delete all three pages one week from today.
I understand that you are active in helping maintain the existing approved third party software articles so that they are accurate and easy to understand for the community. I want to make sure that you have the opportunity to save the information you wrote for the above three articles should they be approved for creation again at a later date. If you have any questions, please let me or another mod know, either via talk page or by asking on the official Discord server. Thank you for understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:03, 18 April 2023 (CDT)
:Putting stuff on talk pages with no way for a user to know that something exists unless they go to the wiki daily is a terrible, terrible way to communicate about deleting something with a timer.
:Can you please clarify "I have confirmed with the wiki team that permission was not given in advance of these articles being created" who you clarified this with?
::Hello again, RINUALDO. I am following up on your question from yesterday about the three articles you created for lich scripts. I did alert the wiki team of your message to me when you added it, and I am aware that staff were able to talk with you on Discord afterward and confirm that you did indeed have prior authorization for the invdb and foreach script articles.
::I would like to apologize on behalf of the wiki team for incorrectly flagging the [[Script foreach]] and [[Script invdb]] articles as not authorized. I am reverting my edits to both of those articles where I had added the delete template, and I am also putting a note on their respective Discussion tabs so that there is no confusion in the future. Unfortunately, the [[Script Ebounty]] article was not approved in advance of it being created, so I do need to delete it when the seven day window has concluded. Thank you for your patience and understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:37, 20 April 2023 (CDT)

The ebounty page was intended in the prior approval that was released. It was referenced in the email request, which I could have been more specific. As this has gone to Feedback, please do not delete anything until the issue is resolved.
:Hi, RINUALDO. I have relayed your message to me on my talk page to the wiki team . Also, just as an FYI if it is helpful, if you want to add on your user name and a timestamp of an edit to the end of the message, it is possible to do so with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:46, 25 April 2023 (CDT)
::Hi again, RINUALDO. I wanted to update you on the three articles I previously reached out to you about. I have removed the delete template and renamed the article for [[Lich:Script Ebounty]] to conform with the updated guidelines for Lich scripts on the wiki. I have also moved both [[Lich:Script invdb]] and [[Lich:Script foreach]] for the same reason. All three articles will need the forthcoming lich header template added to them once the template has been finalized. Thank you for your patience and understanding as the wiki guidelines continue to evolve. I appreciate your continued efforts to add documentation to the wiki to help other players better enjoy the game. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:23, 23 May 2023 (CDT)

===Thaumaturge Tome Script===
[[User talk:ALLENM20]]: Hello, ALLENM20. I am following up with you on behalf of the wiki team. I know that MOD-GSMOTTE already reached out to you about the [[Lich:Thaumaturge Tome Script]] article that you previously wrote. In light of the updates to the wiki standards for lich script pages, the script article is now permitted on the wiki. I have moved the article so that its title properly conforms with these new standards (which adds Lich: at the start of the article title). The article will need to be updated with the forthcoming lich script template as soon as it is released. Thank you for your patience and understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:18, 30 May 2023 (CDT)

===Character Vignettes===
[[User talk:HALEM20]]: Hi again, HALEM20. Thank you for doing so many updates to help record events in the recent and ongoing Platinum storylines. I noticed that you recently added two character vignettes related to the [[:Category:What Lurks in the Dark|What Lurks in the Dark]] storyline that do not appear to be linked to your account based on prior edits to their respective character pages. If you are uploading vignettes on behalf of another player, you will need to very clearly state that on the Discussion tab for each page. The two vignettes are [[Jaired (platinum)/Loose Ends]] and [[Oliviero (platinum)/Interruption]]. To add that information, you will just need to click on the Discussion tab at the top of each article and note that you have permission to upload them. I recommend adding <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> to the end of it to make sure that you have a clear account/date/timestamp applied afterward. Thank you for understanding! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:17, 19 June 2023 (CDT)
:Hello, HALEM20. I previously reached out to you about two character vignettes related to the [[:Category:What Lurks in the Dark|What Lurks in the Dark]] storyline that you added to the wiki for characters that did not appear to be yours, based on prior edits to their respective character pages. I see that Oliviero's player did confirm that permission was given to upload [[Oliviero (platinum)/Interruption]] to the wiki, however there is still no indication that Jaired's player gave permission to upload [[Jaired (platinum)/Loose Ends]]. GSwiki has recently updated its copyright policy with regard to posting works created by another person. I have flagged the "Interruption" vignette for not being in compliance with the updated [[Gswiki:Policy]] for [[GSwiki:Policy#Copyrights|Copyrights]] on works created by someone other than the uploader. A statement that the vignette was uploaded with permission by the author must be added to the vignette's [[Talk:Jaired (platinum)/Loose Ends|Discussion tab]]. '''If that is not added within 7 days, it will be deleted from the wiki.''' If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for copyrights on articles, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926|Discord forum's wiki thread]. Thank you for your understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:34, 13 July 2023 (CDT)

=== Blanked Article===
[[User talk:PAELA]]: Hi there, PAELA. I noticed that you created two articles for your vignette, "Disturbing News", and then went back and deleted all of the text on the duplicate article. The one that still has text is [[Agathilea (prime)/Disturbing News]] while the one that has had all text removed is [[Agathilea (prime)/Disturbing News/Disturbing News]]. Did you remove all the text because you wanted the second article to be deleted? Putting <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki> on an article is the best way to let a wiki Mod know that the page was created in error and should be deleted from the wiki instead of just removing all of the text on it. If that is what you would like to be done, please add the delete template to the article so another mod or I can remove it for you. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:14, 9 August 2023 (CDT)

===Recent Edits===
[[User talk:LUXELLE]]: Hi there, LUXELLE. I'd like to thank you for your many contributions to the wiki, especially for your guides to help other players better enjoy the various festivals and events in game. I know that you frequently collaborate with other players to write some of your guides. Another user recently made some edits to one of your guides, [[Duskruin primer]], that I was not sure were intended by you or your team. They do not appear to be malicious in nature, however I did want to reach out to you about if they were intended to be part of the article. The edits are a new section at the end of the article, [[Duskruin primer#All the big credit givings|All the big credit givings]]. If these edits were not intended by you or your team, either you can delete them or you can let me know and another mod or I would be happy to delete them for you. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:26, 16 August 2023 (CDT)

===Images and Article Edits at Risk for Deletion===
[[User talk:CELLORA]]: Hi there, CELLORA. In reviewing some recent updates to the wiki, I saw that you have made quite a few edits to [[Sorlu (prime)]], which appears to be a character page for someone else's character. There is no indication anywhere that Sorlu's player gave you permission to create or edit a character page on their behalf. [[Gswiki:Policy]] prohibits users from editing character pages unless the character is theirs or they have been given permission by that character's player to make those edits. If you do have permission to edit Sorlu's character page, you will need to indicate this by clearly stating it on its Discussion/Talk tab, [[Talk:Sorlu (prime)]], that you have been given permission to do so by his player. Alternatively, Sorlu's player can put that information on the discussion page. When adding that information, please make sure to add <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end of your comments, which will automatically add a "signature" with your user name, plus the date and time of when your edit was made.

In addition, there are a couple of images that I have flagged, all of which appear related to the same character article. I think I understand what is going on with the images but would appreciate some clarification from you if my understanding is correct.
* [[:File:Nalfein Crest.png]] - This image appears to be a duplicate of [[:File:A Nalfein Crest.png]]. It is not used on any articles. An earlier edit by you to the file noted you as being the creator.
* [[:File:A Nalfein Crest.png]] - This image appears on [[Sorlu (prime)]]. This image notes Sorlu as being the creator, as does the caption you added to Sorlu's character page.
Can you confirm who created the image? It appears that Sorlu's player created it, you erroneously placed your name on "Nalfein Crest" then removed it, then reuploaded the image crediting Sorlu. Is that accurate? If so, I will delete the first duplicate file as it is not used anywhere.
* [[:File:Nalfein Crest 3.png]] - This image appears to be a duplicate of [[:File:Rotting Nalfein Cret.png]]. It is not used on any articles. This image notes you as being the creator, not Sorlu's player.
* [[:File:Rotting Nalfein Cret.png]] This image appears on [[Sorlu (prime)]]. This image notes Sorlu as being the creator, as does the caption you added to Sorlu's character page.
Can you confirm who created the image? It appears that this is a similar situation as the above two images, where you first listed yourself as the creator then re-uploaded the image listing Sorlu as the creator. If that is the case, I will delete the first duplicate file as it is not used anywhere.

In all cases, '''If that information is not added within 7 days, your edits to the character page and the impacted images will be deleted from the wiki.''' Thank you very much for clearly taking steps to fully credit images, not just who created them but also if permission was granted to upload them. That is a big help for moderators like me as we review edits to the wiki. If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for editing character pages, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926%7CDiscord forum's wiki thread]. Thank you for understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 11:02, 29 August 2023 (CDT)

Hello! Yes, I made a mistake on the images and couldn't figure out how to fix it without uploading new ones. If you could please delete the first ones, that would be great! He created them. I'm still figuring out the flagging and all of that for the wiki. I will add a note on the page that he gave me permission to create the page as well. [[User:CELLORA|CELLORA]] ([[User talk:CELLORA|talk]]) 12:59, 29 August 2023 (CDT)

===Article/Edits at Risk for Deletion===
[[User talk:DASLOONIX]]: Hi again, DASLOONIX. In reviewing some recent updates to the wiki, I saw that you have made quite a few edits to [[Sorlu (prime)]], which appears to be a character page for someone else's character. There is no indication anywhere that Sorlu's player gave you permission to create or edit a character page on their behalf. [[Gswiki:Policy]] prohibits users from editing character pages unless the character is theirs or they have been given permission by that character's player to make those edits. If you do have permission to edit Sorlu's character page, you will need to indicate this by clearly stating it on its Discussion/Talk tab, [[Talk:Sorlu (prime)]], that you have been given permission to do so by his player. Alternatively, Sorlu's player can put that information on the discussion page. When adding that information, please make sure to add <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end of your comments, which will automatically add a "signature" with your user name, plus the date and time of when your edit was made. '''If that information is not added within 7 days, your edits to that article will be deleted from the wiki.''' If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for editing character pages, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926%7CDiscord forum's wiki thread]. Thank you for understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 11:02, 29 August 2023 (CDT)

===Images and Article Edits at Risk for Deletion===
[[User talk:CHADDEAUX]]: Hello, CHADDEAUX. I am reaching out to you about two things.

First, a few years ago you created and edited a character page article, [[Dirvy (prime)]], which has since then been edited by another user. There is no indication anywhere that Dirvy's player gave you permission to create or edit a character page on their behalf. [[Gswiki:Policy]] prohibits users from creating or editing character pages unless the character is theirs or they have been given permission by that character's player to make those edits. If you do have permission to edit Dirvy's character page, you will need to indicate this by clearly stating it on its Discussion/Talk tab, [[Talk:Dirvy (prime)]], that you have been given permission to do so by her player. Alternatively, Dirvy's player can put that information on the discussion page. When adding that information, please make sure to add <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end of your comments, which will automatically add a "signature" with your user name, plus the date and time of when your edit was made.

Second, you previously uploaded three images to the wiki which are missing some required information. GSwiki now has a new policy for all images uploaded to it. Please see [[Gswiki:Policy#Copyrights]] for more information about that policy and the requirement to note image creators, what AI imaging software was used (if any), and if permission was granted by the creator to upload the image to the wiki.
* [[:File:Dirvy Britbane medium.jpg]] - Thank you for already stating that Stormyrain created this artwork. You will need to add whether Stormyrain also gave you permission to upload the image onto the wiki. This information will need to be noted both on the image file as well as all articles displaying it.
* [[:File:Dirvy by Flimbo.jpg]] - Thank you for already stating that Flimbo created this artwork. You will need to add whether Flimbo also gave you permission to upload the image onto the wiki. This information will need to be noted both on the image file as well as all articles displaying it.
* [[:File:Zailon.png]] - Thank you for already stating that Flimbo created this artwork. You will need to add whether Flimbo also gave you permission to upload the image onto the wiki. This information will need to be noted both on the image file as well as all articles displaying it.
In all cases for the character page and the three images, '''if the required information is not added within 7 days, the edits to the character page and the images will be deleted from the wiki.''' If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for images, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926%7CDiscord forum's wiki thread]. Thank you for understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:50, 17 October 2023 (CDT)

===Images and Article Edits at Risk for Deletion===
[[User talk:TWILSON]]: Hello, TWILSON. I am reaching out to you about two things.

First, you recently edited a character page article, [[Dirvy (prime)]], which was originally created and edited by another user. There is no indication anywhere that Dirvy's player gave you permission to create or edit a character page on their behalf. [[Gswiki:Policy]] prohibits users from creating or editing character pages unless the character is theirs or they have been given permission by that character's player to make those edits. If you do have permission to edit Dirvy's character page, you will need to indicate this by clearly stating it on its Discussion/Talk tab, [[Talk:Dirvy (prime)]], that you have been given permission to do so by her player. Alternatively, Dirvy's player can put that information on the discussion page. When adding that information, please make sure to add <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end of your comments, which will automatically add a "signature" with your user name, plus the date and time of when your edit was made.

Second, you recently uploaded an image to the wiki, [[:File:Dirvy gencraft image.jpg]], which is missing some required information. GSwiki now has a new policy for all images uploaded to it. Please see [[Gswiki:Policy#Copyrights]] for more information about that policy and the requirement to note image creators, what AI imaging software was used (if any), and if permission was granted by the creator to upload the image to the wiki. Images using AI software in their creation are also required to be included in [[:Category:AI artwork]] Thank you for already noting that it was created using AI software. You will need to add who created the image and, if that person is not you, if you had permission to upload it to the wiki. This information will need to be noted both on the image file as well as any articles displaying it.

In all cases for the character page and the image, '''if the required information is not added within 7 days, the edits to the character page and the image will be deleted from the wiki.''' If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for images, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926%7CDiscord forum's wiki thread]. Thank you for understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:49, 17 October 2023 (CDT)

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[[User talk:GS4ALASTIR]]: Hi there, GS4ALASTIR. I noticed that you created an article for [[Emberthorn Refuge]] with a lot of information on it then shortly afterward went back and removed all of the text. Are you trying to have the article deleted? If so, placing <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki> on an article flags it for mods to review for deletion. Thanks again for your many contributions! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 11:25, 12 September 2023 (CDT)

===Short Story Question===

[[User talk:CHIVERSFREE1]]: Hello, CHIVERSFREE1. The wiki team is currently working on some updates for the style guide as it relates to various types of creative works, including short stories and vignettes. This includes better defining what different creative works are so that they are better reflected with the creative-works template, article titles, etc., to help out both contributors and other players accessing the wiki. I know that you have been working on several lengthy articles, such as [[The Reckoning (short story)]], which might span several categories of creative works. I was hoping that you could share some insight on how you have approached writing articles like it.

You have "The Reckoning" labeled as a short story with the creative-works template. It appears to be a series of glimpses into off-screen/out-of-game roleplay focusing on your character as opposed to a short story written or shared by your character or set within Elanthia in general. Would you feel that is accurate - that it is more a lengthy series of off-screen vignettes as opposed to a formal short story? It also appears that there are sometimes contributions by other authors, such as chapters where Rohese and Mirkk are having a conversation or actively doing things together. Is "The Reckoning" retelling events that have taken place in game in a prose format (as opposed to a log format)? In some ways, it seems like it might almost be a [[Help:Storyline guidelines#Player-Run Storylines|player-run storyline]] focusing on Rohese's personal growth and evolution.

Thank you in advance for any insight you can offer. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:33, 3 October 2023 (CDT)

===Duplicate Logs===
[[User talk:TUMARA]]: Hi there, TUMARA. You recently added two logs that appear to be identical to the wiki. Can you please clarify which one you intended to keep? You can do this by editing the duplicate log that you want deleted and adding <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki> somewhere on that log article. That flags it for a mod to delete. The two logs are:
* [[The Heads Rolled (Battle Log)]]
* [[The Heads Rolled--Battle Log]]
I will update the one you intended to keep with the correct log title once you have identified it. It will end up as titled "Evermore Hollow - 2023-10-23 - The Heads Rolled Battle (log)", per [[Gswiki:Style guide/Formatting special articles#Logs]]. If you do not note which article you prefer to keep within 7 days, then I will delete the newer article and keep the older one. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:35, 31 October 2023 (CDT)

===Uploaded Images and Captions===
[[User talk:PTOLEMY]]: Hello, PTOLEMY. I have updated the image captions for all new images you added to your character page, [[Jaysehn (prime)]]. GSwiki now has a new policy for all images uploaded to it. Please see [[Gswiki:Policy#AI-Generated Artwork]] for more information about that policy and how it pertains to any images created with AI imaging software. AI generated images cannot be noted as copyrighted, and the captions displaying AI generated images must reflect the same information as what you indicated in their file uploads. I have already updated the captions based on information you provided with the uploaded files, however please keep this in mind with any future use of them or other AI-generated images. In addition, I have also already added the required [[:Category:AI artwork]] for all of your recently uploaded images. If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for images, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926%7CDiscord forum's wiki thread]. Thank you for your help with this process. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:08, 7 November 2023 (CST)

===Duplicate Article===
[[User talk:PTOLEMY]]: Hello, PTOLEMY. You recently created two identical articles, [[Paid in Full]] and [[Jaysehn (prime)/Reflections/Paid in Full]]. I suspect that the second is the article you intended to create and the first was made in error, due to the second following the Style Guide's standards for personal vignettes. Can you please confirm which duplicate should be deleted? This can be done by editing the one you wish deleted and putting in the <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki> template anywhere on the article. If I do not hear any response from you in one week, I will mark [[Paid in Full]] with the delete template for mod review and deletion. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:45, 13 December 2023 (CST)

===Images and Article Edits at Risk for Deletion===

[[User talk:PTOLEMY]]:Hi, PTOLEMY. I'm reaching out to you about a couple of things.

First, I'm contacting you about the recent images that you have uploaded to the wiki. The requirements for posting images to the wiki has changed this past year. Please see [[Gswiki:Policy#Copyrights]] for more information about that policy and the requirement to note image creators, what AI imaging software was used (if any), and if permission was granted by the creator to upload the image to the wiki. In addition, all images using AI generating software are required to include <nowiki>[[Category:AI artwork]]</nowiki> on the files themselves. I have edited all but two of the files that you have uploaded to include this, however in the future if this continues to be omitted, I will begin flagging those files for moderater review/deletion. This text should be added as part of the image file description when you upload it, or edited it into the image file description after uploading. The two files I have not edited to include this information are outlined in the next paragraph.

Second, you recently edited a character page, [[Hadya (prime)]], which has been maintained by another user. There is no indication anywhere that Hadya's player gave you permission to edit a character page on their behalf. [[Gswiki:Policy]] prohibits users from creating or editing character pages unless the character is theirs or they have been given permission by that character's player to make those edits. If you do have permission to edit Hadya's character page, you will need to indicate this by clearly stating it on its Discussion tab, [[Talk:Hadya (prime)]], that you have been given permission to do so by her player. Alternatively, Hadya's player can put that information on the discussion tab. When adding that information, please make sure to add <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end of your comments, which will automatically add a "signature" with your user name, plus the date and time of when your edit was made. I am flagging the edits you made to this article as well as the two images you uploaded for it as not following [[Gswiki:Policy]] requiring permission from the character's player. The two impacted images are [[:File:Hadya AI Ptolemy.jpg]] and [[:File:HadyaSummons AI Ptolemy.jpg]]. These two images are also missing the required <nowiki>[[Category:AI artwork]]</nowiki>.

'''If that information is not added within 7 days, these images and article edits will be deleted from the wiki.''' Please do not remove the <nowiki>{{moddelete}}</nowiki> template from the images and article displaying them. Another moderator or I will remove that template after your updates have been reviewed to ensure that they meet [[Gswiki:Policy]] requirements. If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for images, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926 Discord forum's wiki thread]. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:25, 20 December 2023 (CST)

===Duplicate Images===
[[User talk:LYSTRA]]: Hi there, LYSTRA. You recently uploaded two images to the wiki that appear to be duplicates of one another except with slightly different resolutions. The two image files are [[:File:Fyg-kitten.png]] (1024x1024 pixels) and [[:File:Fyg-kitten1.png]] (500x500 pixels). Can you please let me know which of the two you had intended to keep on the wiki and which is the duplicate that should be deleted? I will remove the duplicate image. You can let me or another moderator know by adding <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki> to the image file that was uploaded in error, or you can respond here. If I do not hear back from you in one week, I will flag the image with the lower resolution for mod review and deletion. In addition, all images using AI software in their creation are required to be included in [[:Category:AI artwork]]. To add that text to an image file, you will need to click on "Edit Source" on the image file itself and add <nowiki>[[Category:AI artwork]]</nowiki>. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:01, 20 December 2023 (CST)
:[[:File_talk:Fyg-kitten1.png]]: This image appears to be a lower resolution duplicate of [[:File:Fyg-kitten.png]] and is not used on any articles. It will be deleted in favor of the higher resolution image unless the uploader requests that this image be kept and the higher resolution image be deleted instead. Uploader originally contacted on 12/20/23 regarding the existence of a duplicate image and informed of this next step. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:06, 27 December 2023 (CST)

===Article Edits at Risk for Deletion===
[[User talk:SWEETLITTLEAGONY]]: Hello, SWEETLITTLEAGONY. In reviewing some recent updates to the wiki, I saw that you have made changes to [[Lissaya (prime)]], which appears to be a character page for someone else's character as the article was originally created by a different account. There is no indication anywhere that Lissaya's player gave you permission to edit a character page on their behalf. [[Gswiki:Policy]] prohibits users from editing character pages unless the character is theirs or they have been given permission by that character's player to make those edits. If you do have permission to edit Lissaya's character page, you will need to indicate this by clearly stating it on its Discussion tab, [[Talk:Lissaya (prime)]], that you have been given permission to do so by her player. Alternatively, Lissaya's player can put that information on the discussion page. When adding that information, please make sure to add <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end of your comments, which will automatically add a "signature" with your user name, plus the date and time of when your edit was made. '''If that information is not added within 7 days, your edits to that article will be deleted from the wiki.''' If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for editing character pages, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926 Discord forum's wiki thread]. Thank you for understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:49, 20 December 2023 (CST)

===Edits to Announcements===
[[User talk:CHAPSICKLE2]]: Hi there, CHAPSICKLE2. Your recent edits to [[Announcement: Spell Disabler Review Live!]] were reverted as they violated [[Gswiki:Policy]], which states "Articles may be created or edited freely with the exception of: Announcements, Official Documentation, and Official Vignettes - Created by GameMasters only, handled by GameMasters and Moderators only." This is not an official warning or anything as the edits do appear to have been made in good faith. I have moved a copy of your added comments to the Announcement's Discussion/Talk tab, which can be accessed at [[Talk:Announcement: Spell Disabler Review Live!]]. In the future, please use the Discussion/Talk tab when adding notes related to official staff announcements if there is not a primary non-announcement article for the update discussed. Thank you for understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:21, 16 January 2024 (CST)

===Edits to Character Pages/Subpages===
[[User talk:AFALLACE]]: Hi there, AFALLACE. I'm reaching out to you about recent edits you made to a couple of articles and sub-articles related to [[Jaired (platinum)]] and [[Jaired (platinum)/The Saga of Jaired Delone (short story)]]. There are a couple different accounts that have edited the content of these articles for things other than minor moderation or formatting updates. Only a player or someone to whom they have given permission may update a character's page per [[Gswiki:Policy]]. I do see that you have made nearly all content changes to Jaired's character page since its creation, however they do include substantial edits to the vignette subarticle that was authored by a different account. Can you please clarify where permissions stand for editing these by Jaired's player? I realize this might be a case of having multiple accounts, however there is no way for me to verify this as a moderator. If I don't hear back from you in 7 days, I will flag some of these updates for moderator review. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:15, 17 January 2024 (CST)

===Modified Artwork===
[[User talk:JSEVERNS]]: Hi there, JSEVERNS. Several years ago, you uploaded an image, [[:File:Teras Isle Regional final.jpg]]. Recently, another user modified your image to create [[:File:Teras Isle Discovery of Kragnek Dzu (Oro).png]]. The other user did note that your image was the original source, however there is no note that they have artist permission to make modifications for it. I also was not able to find any remarks on your original image file or its related captions that you have given any sort of blanket permission for modifications by others. Can you please clarify if permission was given? While your image does depict a map, it is considered artwork for the purposes of [[Gswiki:Policy#Copyrights]] and is protected under that section. If I don't hear back from you within 7 days, I will flag the new image for moderator review. You can respond either here or on my user talk page. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 11:15, 17 January 2024 (CST)

[[User talk:JGENGLISH]]: Hi there, JGENGLISH. You recently uploaded an image, [[:File:Teras Isle Discovery of Kragnek Dzu (Oro).png]], which appears to be modified from an image originally created by another artist, [[:File:Teras Isle Regional final.jpg]]. I do see that you included in the caption a note about the original image. Can you please clarify if the original artist gave you permission to modify their image? I don't see that remarked on anywhere in your upload notes/captions. While the image does depict a map, it is considered artwork for the purposes of [[Gswiki:Policy#Copyrights]] and is protected under that section. If I don't hear back from you within 7 days, I will flag the image for moderator review. You can respond either here or on my user talk page. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 11:15, 17 January 2024 (CST)

[[User talk::HOST-GSKEBECHET]]: Hey there. Just putting my response here to this as well: "Hello HOST-GSKEBECHET! Thanks, sorry. Yes, Aloska (JSEVERNS) gave me permission to edit their original artwork. I will add this to the image description. Should I also add it to the caption? I can ask him to check his TALK page here if that would also help."

== Uploaded Image Patrol ==

Moved to [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET/Image patrols]].

== Elanthian Journals ==

By chance are you able to see the old Elanthian Journal pages that were deleted? I just realized.. one thing I never did is check each one to see what linked to them. I just found a page that linked to a Journal :| [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 16:52, 12 August 2022 (CDT)
:Unfortunately, no. Once a page is deleted, it is gone-gone. However, I was able to pull up a list of broken links and adjusted seven pages that appeared to reference the old Elanthian Journal pages. That should hopefully have caught any others that were overlooked! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:45, 16 August 2022 (CDT)
::Thank you for this! Sorry for the extra work. [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 15:44, 16 August 2022 (CDT)
:::Very welcome! Thank you for bringing up the potential of broken links. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:14, 17 August 2022 (CDT)

== Merchants template ==

I cobbled that template together in 2019, as a pet project, when things were a little more relaxed. So many people were "remember that one merchant? Where were they?? What did they look like??", that it felt like a good addition. Anyway, it was a build based on a template someone else had done, as you've likely read. I had planned on continuing work on it, then COVID hit and I turned into a homeschool teacher for two young teenagers.

Venues: the primary reason I changed those venues was because it was putting so many merchants into categories that didn't exist, and may not have been the best one for them to go into ''at the time''. By restricting category to "wandering" and others that already had a category made, it cut down on "red links"; '''wandering''' moved them into a common category and could be changed later. '''Generally speaking''', if they had a mention in their blurb as to what venue they attended, I removed the category that was causing a red link, although any that did not were likely an oversight (the notable exception being Elsia - I forgot to research her item, '''Fancy Coats''', so I could add the venue).

Towns: it was my intention to adapt the template to allow them to be placed into the category '''for that town'''. An example would be citizen-only merchants such as Duvernith or Davro. I admittedly got wrapped up in EG item-adding and had not gotten back to fixing the "town" venue to populate into town pages instead of '''Town''' NPCs, a category that doesn't exist, so I just left town uncategorized for the time being.

Many of those merchants I added myself with no real idea of what venues they had visited, in that hopes of at least having an appearance and a basic blurb to be expanded upon later. I had intended to continue with the work after EG and add category pages where appropriate. That section of the template might get pretty long for particularly industrious merchants! '''Wandering''' seemed like a good fit if they didn't have what might be considered a "primary festival" (for example, I wouldn't be surprised to see Elusionari in a lot of places!).

That said, I get that once you add a template, you basically lose any claim to it being "yours". However, no one else really took an interest in it, and I was told it would need work anyway, so I figured I was all right to try to adapt it to '''not''' use non-existent categories for the time being, since many (most?) of them had venue linked in the blurb or the body of the article. (TL:DR yet? LOL)[[User:ECHEAUX|ECHEAUX]] ([[User talk:ECHEAUX|talk]]) 12:09, 26 October 2022 (CDT)

== Table updates ==

Hello! As I'm sure you've noticed, I've been going through and updating older items to the newer templates. A lot of them are simple, but some of them require more time; much more time in some cases. For those, fortunately, a lot them are more or less copy and paste for the verb lists with a few minor tweaks. I noticed that on a couple of them you've gone back and added in formatting for data tables for accessibility purposes. I read up on that today and I'll be sure to add that going forward, but I was wondering: Is there a way you are finding those that need it or are you just kind of seeing them as I'm doing them? I'd be more than happy to go back correct the formatting on those, but if there's a way I can find them more "wholesale" than "piecemeal", that would make the job easier. [[User:ECHEAUX|ECHEAUX]] ([[User talk:ECHEAUX|talk]]) 17:40, 9 November 2022 (CST)
:Hi there! Part of my duties as one of our wiki mods are to review recent page changes to ensure that they are appropriate to the wiki, are accurate, are appropriately named as a page or subpage, and that they generally comply with the wiki style guide. So you'll see me doing things like updating pages to use new template standards, moving pages that aren't named properly, fixing redirects or broken links, updating categories, reviewing pages listed in [[:Category:Marked for Deletion]], and similar "moderator" type duties focused on overall wiki consistency that are not expected of general users who instead are adding new content to the wiki. One of the standards set out by the style guide and the wiki team is to ensure that the wiki is as accessible as possible to everyone, including our users who rely on a screen reader. If I run across any pages during my patrols that don't meet current standards, including tables that are not set up in a way for screen readers to properly capture, part of my job as a moderator is to update them accordingly. Since you have been incredibly active on the wiki over the past couple of months, I am much more likely to review your edits than other users due to sheer volume; that's why it might look like I'm going back to change pages you've touched more so than other users. Thanks for inquiring! If you'd like to know more about our moderator team or what our role is, I encourage you to ask on the Gemstone Discord's #wiki-talk channel where one of the GMs overseeing the wiki can chime in. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:11, 10 November 2022 (CST)
::Oh, I understand that. I just wasn't sure if there was an easy way to see pages with certain errors so I could fix those that I missed them on. I can go through my contribution list and do it, though. Thanks for getting back to me![[User:ECHEAUX|ECHEAUX]] ([[User talk:ECHEAUX|talk]]) 10:34, 10 November 2022 (CST)

== Northern Sentinel's Decree==

Hello! My intention with this page was to list only the legal characteristics of the Landing's protectorate status. I deliberately did not want to include the preamble and ending of the letter, as they did not carry legal weight. As such, I would like to revert it to a version which contains only those legal characteristics. In my view, a log page or official document page would be more appropriate for recording the entire letter. [[User:WBURKE1|WBURKE1]] ([[User talk:WBURKE1|talk]])
:Hi, WBURKE1. Thanks for reaching out to me! I am not ignoring your query; I am waiting on a response from the larger wiki team about how to approach this specific scenario with the article [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]]. As I explained to WINTERDAWN, generally speaking an article's Talk page is not an appropriate venue for archiving important information. Given the nature of this specific article as well as the duplicate information between it and the article [[Protectorate]], I am waiting on confirmation on how best to handle it before taking any further action. Unless another mod or GM weighs in before me, it will likely not be until next week that I can relay the final determination. I appreciate your patience and understanding with this. Thank you again for all of your contributions to the wiki. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:40, 9 February 2023 (CST)
::Hello again, WBURKE1. After consulting with the wiki team, I have adjusted [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]] to show the previous version of the text instead of the log. I have transcluded the identically presented information from [[Protectorate]] onto [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]]. I have updated text on the page to link to the log excerpt on [[Protectorate]] instead of referencing the article's talk page. I have also updated the article's Talk page to remove the previously saved log excerpt, to clarify what its purpose is, and to direct anyone viewing it to [[Protectorate#5123]], which is where the complete log excerpt is located. This should help ensure that the intent behind the original page, which is to succinctly state the terms of the Landing's Protectorate status, is maintained while still preserving information. Thank you again for your patience as I worked to resolve this. Please let me know if you have any further questions or concerns. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:13, 14 February 2023 (CST)
:::Thanks for this resolution and for all your hard work! [[User:WBURKE1|WBURKE1]] ([[User talk:WBURKE1|talk]]) 12:39, 14 February 2023 (CST)

== Images ==

They're different images, please look more closely.

== I don't know what I'm doing! ==

Hi, I tried to DM, failed! But found.. this space. And I have no idea if I'm doing it correctly. I READ WHAT YOU WROTE and thank you for what was pointed out I will work on figuring out how to fix it, it just might not be instantly remedied (not too long, just not a finger-snap of time, I'm still figuring stuff out!) -DASLOONIX

== 5mb File Size Down to 2mb ==

I'm noticing that the wiki now has a 2mb file size limit when it used to be 5mb. Is this an unintended result of the recent update or is it intentional? I'm trying to update my OSA maps but the 2mb limit is going to cause a huge loss in quality on them. Thoughts? If it's intentional, perhaps you or an admin could override the setting and post the two maps for me? [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 19:56, 7 January 2024 (CST)
:I do not know about any details related to maximum file size changes. I have relayed your question to the wiki team and will respond on your user talk page when I have more information. While you are welcome to reach out to me (or other mods) with questions like this, you can also ask them on the [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926 Discord forum's wiki thread], where you may receive a faster response. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:08, 9 January 2024 (CST)
::Just checking in :) [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 23:41, 15 January 2024 (CST)
:::Hi, again! I did inquire but still have no update. The wiki team is relaying your question to onside/IT alongside several other extensions and related requests. As a result, this will take much more time to answer than most questions due to it being outside the scope of what the wiki team can address. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:01, 16 January 2024 (CST)
::::Okay, thank you! In the meantime, is this something you or an admin have the power to override for the 2 map files? [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 18:28, 16 January 2024 (CST)
:::::No, this is outside the purview of what the wiki team is able to do. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:27, 17 January 2024 (CST)
::::::Okay, thank you! [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 21:24, 18 January 2024 (CST)

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JGENGLISH: /* Summary */

== Summary ==
An edit of https://gswiki.play.net/File:Teras_Isle_Regional_final.jpg done with permissions from JSEVERNS, the original artist. Edited by JGENGLISH to include writing and annotations by Oro, done by the uploader.

User talk:JGENGLISH

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JGENGLISH: /* Modified Artwork */

==Modified Artwork==
Hi there, JGENGLISH. You recently uploaded an image, [[:File:Teras Isle Discovery of Kragnek Dzu (Oro).png]], which appears to be modified from an image originally created by another artist, [[:File:Teras Isle Regional final.jpg]]. I do see that you included in the caption a note about the original image. Can you please clarify if the original artist gave you permission to modify their image? I don't see that remarked on anywhere in your upload notes/captions. While the image does depict a map, it is considered artwork for the purposes of [[Gswiki:Policy#Copyrights]] and is protected under that section. If I don't hear back from you within 7 days, I will flag the image for moderator review. You can respond either here or on my user talk page. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 11:15, 17 January 2024 (CST)

Response from JGENGLISH:
Hello [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]]! Thanks, sorry. Yes, Aloska (JSEVERNS) gave me permission to edit their original artwork. I will add this to the image description. Should I also add it to the caption?

==Images at Risk for Deletion==
Hello, JGENGLISH. You recently uploaded two images to the wiki, [[:File:Oro.png]] and [[:File:Oro bw.png]], that are missing some information required by [[Gswiki:Policy]]. GSwiki now has a new policy for all images uploaded to it. Please see [[Gswiki:Policy#Copyrights]] for more information about that policy and the requirement to note image creators, what AI imaging software was used (if any), and if permission was granted by the creator to upload the image to the wiki. This information needs to be on the images as well as on all articles using them. In addition, all images using AI software in their creation are required to be included in [[:Category:AI artwork]]. To add that text to the image file, you will need to click on "Edit Source" on the image file itself and add <nowiki>[[Category:AI artwork]]</nowiki>. All articles displaying the images will need to include that same information in their captions, whether that is part of the characterprofile template's caption field or appended to a thumbnail display, such as <nowiki>[[File:Oro bw.png|120x120px|thumb|caption text]]</nowiki>. For these two images specifically:
* [[:File:Oro.png]] - Image file is missing who generated the image, if permission was given to upload it (if that person is not you), the name of the AI imaging software, and <nowiki>[[Category:AI artwork]]</nowiki>. The article featuring the image ([[Oro (platinum)]]) is missing who generated the image and if permission was given to upload it (if that person is not you).
* [[:File:Oro bw.png]] - Image file is missing who generated the image, if permission was given to upload it (if that person is not you), the name of the AI imaging software, and <nowiki>[[Category:AI artwork]]</nowiki>. The article featuring the image ([[Cast of characters]]) is missing all of that same information.
'''If that information is not added within 7 days, the images will be deleted from the wiki.''' Please do not remove the <nowiki>{{moddelete}}</nowiki> template from the images. Another moderator or I will remove that template after your updates have been reviewed to ensure that they meet [[Gswiki:Policy]] requirements. If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for images, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926 Discord forum's wiki thread]. Thank you for understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:50, 4 January 2024 (CST)

Oro (platinum)

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JGENGLISH:

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| race = Giantman
| culture = Wsalamir Arctic Clan
| class = Bard
| profession = Merchant
| religion = Spiritual
| word = Curious
| disposition = Considerate
| demeanor = Warm
| ptrait = Adventurous
| strait = Inquisitive
| flaw = Reckless, Avarice
| strength = Communication
| weakness = Regret
| habits = Smoking, drinking, stuttering in thought
| hobbies = Reading books and maps, exploring dangerous places, browsing pawnshops and old stores for antiquities and treasures.
| soft = Animals, a warm reading nook, money.
| likes = Wine, cigars, well-made clothing, art, old books, writing, record-keeping, helping someone.
| dislikes = Trolls, Giants, Waste
| fears = Failure, disappointment
| loyalties = Unclear
| friend = Many, though his absence has left him with few sustained connections in lower Elanith.
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'''Oro''' (age approximately 26, birth date unknown) is a self-professed merchant from the farthest reaches of the North, claiming ancestry of the [[Wsalamir Arctic Clan]]. Friendly and verbose, the [[Giantkin]] is uncharacteristic of the stories of his people. He appeared in Eorgaen, 5112, in [[Icemule Trace]] -- recounting a long journey from the reaches north of [[Pinefar]]. Spending over a year travelling the cities of [[Elanith]], he proved a voracious study and student. He frequented the halls of the [[Elven Nations]], their libraries, and their workshops. His close confidant and friend, Nilandia Liserna, a sylvan mystic, empath, and scholar aided him in his education. In the year of 5113 he departed the southern cities of Elanith, saddled with new knowledge of the world, many treasures, and a caravan of goods. His expedition beyond [[Aenatumgana|Mt. Aenatumgana]] was, he claimed, an effort to connect his people with the modern world. Ten years hence, much the way he had come, he returned in the month of Eorgaen, 5123. In Lormesta, 5124 he founded Oro's Expedition Company (OEC) through investments that had matured during his absence. Leveraging the reach and finances of the OEC he scours Elanith for relics and artifacts of interest, lore, and information. To what end, remains unclear.

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== Recent Occurrences and Field Notes ==

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===Malicious Mist in Ta'Vaalor===
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[[File:Vaalor mist oro.png|thumb|border|left|top|upright=0.50|A haunting mist on the Mistydeep River<br>Artist: Created by the uploader with Midjourney ]]
''A long and densely written entry within a timeworn leather journal in Oro's possession''

'''16th of Eorgaen, 5123'''

An accounting by Oro of the unusual happenings of [[Ta'Vaalor|Ta'vaalor]] potentially in connection with the missing Saxe family member, Thanela Saxe.

Rumors swirled this past week in [[Solhaven]] during the Koar Church fundraiser. Which are true or unfounded remains up for speculation. Notable accounts of arguments and accusations of inhuman behavior among the Saxe siblings was shared by individuals who wish to remain anonymous, during the local art exhibit. Further accounts and rumors suggesting that sanguine magic or other biologically derived enchantments may find cause in the absence of Lady Saxe. Hard evidence remained thin.

Today, an unusually thick and malign mist was observed rolling across the docks of [[Ta'Vaalor]] on the banks of the aptly named [[Mistydeep River]].

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Myself and others arrived soon after word had spread of the phenomenon, but as soon as it began, it had dissipated. Regrouping in King's Court we prepared to depart when Lady [[Cydris]] arrived, choking for breath and clearly shaken. Stricken by an intense thirst, we aided her in resting. With a racing heart beat, uneven breathing, and tremors she soon succumbed to a form of catatonia. Staring toward the southern docks, she murmured about "a light", "a woman", and the "sound of laughter". She rose to leave, but was impaired from doing so by those present at the time.

Her recovery came swiftly, but residual effects, including sudden weakness, violent outbursts, and an odd aggressiveness for her nature ensued. Weakness persisted and she was taken to rest.

Notably, [[Cydris]] described the woman in her vision. A red-haired woman, described similarly to accounts of the missing Lady Saxe. [[Cydris]] described the visions, and experience, as wholly unfriendly and malign and sensed danger in the vision. I will seek a more complete accounting from her, once she has fully recovered.

The remaining of us surveyed the docks where the Mist had been most prominent, and to which direction [[Cydris]]<nowiki/>had called. Drawing in an actively hooked fishing line from the dock, [[Oliviero (platinum)|Oliviero]] discovered a freshly severed arm and a tangle of dark hair. Before we could further examine the evidence, a dock worker kicked the corporeal remnant into the river. [[Vyrshkana (Platinum)|Vyrshkana]] reported the incident, and obstruction of the dockhand in our investigation, to the dock foreman -- though little came of the effort.

Lord [[Virion (platinum)|Virion]]... ''obvious smudging is visible across the page after Virion's name, a shadow of ink spelling out various titles that were summarily expunged dirties the parchment...'' reported our findings to the proper authorities of the fortress.

On a personal note, I have borne witness to many hallucinations, possessions, and other forms of catatonia derived from spiritual possession -- whether real, imagined, induced, or otherwise. Rarely have I seen such a powerful physical response in the host as was observed with Lady [[Cydris]]. Be wary of further such encounters with thick, opaque mist. Whether derived of magic, alchemy, poison, or natural phenomenon is unknown, but it clearly had an effect on Lady [[Cydris]]. All others experiencing this mist have not, at this time, exhibited symptoms.

'''''Postulates:''''' Elven susceptibility? Magical alignment?

'''''Additional observations:''''' Many children congregated at the Court suddenly after the visions ceased. Dock worker not surprised by arm? Common occurrence? Investigate river upstream. Can Mist be bottled? Re-exposure sensitivity? Failed to collect sample. Saxe family and mist, mental magic, other known abilities?

As faithfully as capable,
Oro

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===Discovering the Ruins of Kragnek-Dzu===
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[[File:Teras_Isle_Discovery_of_Kragnek_Dzu_(Oro).png|thumb|border|center|top|upright=1.5|Map annotations by Oro]]
''A stack of fire-charred pages have been added to the timeworn leather journal Oro carries with him. Maps scribbled over with red ink, pages scrawled with notes, drawings, and diagrams. On one begins a passage summarizing the contents.''

11th of Lormesta, 5124

As the sun fell below the western horizon an explosion rocked the continent of Elanith. Smoke and fire erupted from Teras Isle, shards of glaes and rock showering Kharam Dhzu.

I arrived to Teras Isle soon after the eruption. Locating a band of known adventurers, some members of my previous expeditions, I followed them to a battle raging outside the northern gates of Kharam Dhzu on the crossroads where Hog's Pen Tavern is located. When I arrived waves of Gigas unlike any I had previously seen in the northern reaches of Elanith were being slain in waves by Jaired, Daenamaryllis, Vyrshkana, Doj, Deleu, Bwa, and Korgath. Blood soaked the roads leading to the city. The band was being led by a dwarf I had never met, and who introduced himself as Voregrek Borthuum, Prince of Kharam Dhzu.

Our evening was about to spiral into chaos, volcano eruptions, demons, and the discovery of a lost dwarven city!

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Following the battle, the Gigas invaders retreated north along the Muagh river. Jaired Delone gave chase, scouring the eye of V'tull, but to no avail. The Gigas forces had retreated into the jungles along the banks of the Muagh. Discussion amongst ourselves revealed numerous signs that the Gigas were followers of V'tull. We postulated on where their encampment may be, attempting to decided how best to give chase. At that moment, Maros arrived with word that Artisan Gamordi, a clansmen of the Prince, wished to discuss the situation urgently with him back in Kharam Dzu.

Our small party split, some seeking the Gigas (who, admittedly, shouldn't have been all that hard to track -- but the jungle keeps many secrets), while the rest joined Prince Voregrek in the Clan Hall. Gamordi suggested we raft upon the Muagh River in search of the remaining Gigas. He quickly fashioned a number of rickety vessels behind Bentock's Adventurer's Rest on the east bank of the river. Joining us at the banks was a smoky amorphous humanoid shape that... declared he was a Maker of Chains. Not uncommon, blacksmiths in Kharam Dzu. Notably, for a smith, he was rather capable in combat.

We rafted the river and discovered that it had split into a northwestern and eastern route. These rafts remain, and I continue to explore the area. The western approach contained a blood-soaked cave housing a gigantic skeleton suspended on glaes chains. The eastern approach led us directly to a fortified encampment swarming with Gigas! We battered the barricade down and burst into a ruin similar to something Gamordi had described -- a place lost to the jungle known as Kragnek-Dzu. The ruins were of obvious dwarven design, though old, and abandoned. It appeared that the Gigas had made their encampment for invasion here in these ruins.

We suffered heavily casualties at the hands of the Gigas on the promenades within the fortress, but recovered quickly. In exploring the fortress, we noted a deformed mithril anvil of substantial size in what appeared to be a rubble-strewn marketplace. The entire area was bubbling with pyroclastic rock and volcanic eruptions. Among them was a massive boulder of dark, glaes-veined basalt. Climbing atop the boulder, I immediately realized it was draining the mana from the area. Spells fizzled, songs failed, magic of all forms seemed incapable of manifesting on the rock.

We were immediately attacked by the boulders resident, an enormous fire giant taller than any I have faced. Wielding a scintillating obsidian claidhmore, he furiously assaulted our cohort. When slain, his body would melt into molten magma, sink into the boulder, and he would reform moments later healed and energized. Screaming praise to V'tull, and demanding blood for his god, he began to challenge our party to duels. Each of his defeats was brief and his renewal swift.

After the fifth.. or sixth slaying, I lost count, I thought it wise to remove the giants corpse from the regenerative boulder. While our assembled company was defeating him easily, attrition would eventually be our downfall. Or more Gigas may surround the boulder. Grabbing his form before he was able to melt, I hauled him off the boulder and onto the promenade. The giant immediately decayed to ash.. and then hell broke loose. Magma erupted from all sides, immediately killing me and maiming others. I was eventually healed and resurrected by the town cleric.

[[File:Vathor_sketch_oro.png|thumb|border|left|top|upright=0.5|Vathor sketch by Oro]]
Upon returning to what we now know is likely Kragenk-Dzu, I was greeted by an army of diving vathor! Flying demons, whose demonic essence deflected all manner of magic. I provide here a rough sketch. Should you see such creatures and not be at the pinnacle of fighting tenacity I'd strongly advise running away. Needless to say, I was slain, brutally. But bore witness to the amazing prowess by our assembled party. They slew many of the demons before we were ultimately forced to escape with many injured and deceased.

Reporting back to Gamordi, he seems convinced the ruins we uncovered were indeed Kragenk-Dzu. He advised that the boulder, and the anvil we had spotted, were part of an ancient and magical forging center of the city.

Preparations are being made to return and hopefully recover more of the lost dwarven city in the near future.

To the best of my recollection,
Oro

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===Luck For Its Own Sake===
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[[File:Luckonthelake.png|thumb|border|left|top|upright=0.50|Skipping rocks on Lake Marliese<br>Artist: Created by the uploader with Midjourney ]]
''A hastily written note on a half scrap of paper is shoved into the binding of a timeworn leather journal in Oro's possession''

A down trodden minstrel named Nolec happened upon a magical stone near Lake Marliese that defied all natural laws of movement. He guided a number of us around Wehnimer's to investigate its properties. In coaxing it with song I revealed that the object was magically imbued. The bard led us to the temple of Cholen in Solhaven, where he summarily suffused the stone into a pair of socks. Before his rapid and magical disappearance, he imparted upon me the ability to foist luck and good fortune on whomsoever I choose. Lovely.

Oro

''The bottom edge of the page is stained a dark amber. In a different ink beside the stain a brief and sloppily written addendum reads. ''

All knaves.. useless Kings.

== Past Expeditions ==

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== Personal History ==

== Discovered Artifacts and Relics ==

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Oro (platinum)

2024-01-13T07:28:25Z

JGENGLISH: /* Discovering the Ruins of Kragnek-Dzu */

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'''Oro''' (age approximately 26, birth date unknown) is a self-professed merchant from the farthest reaches of the North, claiming ancestry of the [[Wsalamir Arctic Clan]]. Friendly and verbose, the [[Giantkin]] is uncharacteristic of the stories of his people. He appeared in Eorgaen, 5112, in [[Icemule Trace]] -- recounting a long journey from the reaches north of [[Pinefar]]. Spending over a year travelling the cities of [[Elanith]], he proved a voracious study and student. He frequented the halls of the [[Elven Nations]], their libraries, and their workshops. His close confidant and friend, Nilandia Liserna, a sylvan mystic, empath, and scholar aided him in his education. In the year of 5113 he departed the southern cities of Elanith, saddled with new knowledge of the world, many treasures, and a caravan of goods. His expedition beyond [[Aenatumgana|Mt. Aenatumgana]] was, he claimed, an effort to connect his people with the modern world. Ten years hence, much the way he had come, he returned in the month of Eorgaen, 5123. In Lormesta, 5124 he founded Oro's Expedition Company (OEC) through investments that had matured during his absence. Leveraging the reach and finances of the OEC he scours Elanith for relics and artifacts of interest, lore, and information. To what end, remains unclear.

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== Recent Occurrences and Field Notes ==

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===Malicious Mist in Ta'Vaalor===
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[[File:Vaalor mist oro.png|thumb|border|left|top|upright=0.50|A haunting mist on the Mistydeep River<br>Artist: Created by the uploader with Midjourney ]]
''A long and densely written entry within a timeworn leather journal in Oro's possession''

'''16th of Eorgaen, 5123'''

An accounting by Oro of the unusual happenings of [[Ta'Vaalor|Ta'vaalor]] potentially in connection with the missing Saxe family member, Thanela Saxe.

Rumors swirled this past week in [[Solhaven]] during the Koar Church fundraiser. Which are true or unfounded remains up for speculation. Notable accounts of arguments and accusations of inhuman behavior among the Saxe siblings was shared by individuals who wish to remain anonymous, during the local art exhibit. Further accounts and rumors suggesting that sanguine magic or other biologically derived enchantments may find cause in the absence of Lady Saxe. Hard evidence remained thin.

Today, an unusually thick and malign mist was observed rolling across the docks of [[Ta'Vaalor]] on the banks of the aptly named [[Mistydeep River]].

<span class="mw-customtoggle-noro1" style="color:#0000ff">Read on...</span><span class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" id="mw-customcollapsible-noro1">

Myself and others arrived soon after word had spread of the phenomenon, but as soon as it began, it had dissipated. Regrouping in King's Court we prepared to depart when Lady [[Cydris]] arrived, choking for breath and clearly shaken. Stricken by an intense thirst, we aided her in resting. With a racing heart beat, uneven breathing, and tremors she soon succumbed to a form of catatonia. Staring toward the southern docks, she murmured about "a light", "a woman", and the "sound of laughter". She rose to leave, but was impaired from doing so by those present at the time.

Her recovery came swiftly, but residual effects, including sudden weakness, violent outbursts, and an odd aggressiveness for her nature ensued. Weakness persisted and she was taken to rest.

Notably, [[Cydris]] described the woman in her vision. A red-haired woman, described similarly to accounts of the missing Lady Saxe. [[Cydris]] described the visions, and experience, as wholly unfriendly and malign and sensed danger in the vision. I will seek a more complete accounting from her, once she has fully recovered.

The remaining of us surveyed the docks where the Mist had been most prominent, and to which direction [[Cydris]]<nowiki/>had called. Drawing in an actively hooked fishing line from the dock, [[Oliviero (platinum)|Oliviero]] discovered a freshly severed arm and a tangle of dark hair. Before we could further examine the evidence, a dock worker kicked the corporeal remnant into the river. [[Vyrshkana (Platinum)|Vyrshkana]] reported the incident, and obstruction of the dockhand in our investigation, to the dock foreman -- though little came of the effort.

Lord [[Virion (platinum)|Virion]]... ''obvious smudging is visible across the page after Virion's name, a shadow of ink spelling out various titles that were summarily expunged dirties the parchment...'' reported our findings to the proper authorities of the fortress.

On a personal note, I have borne witness to many hallucinations, possessions, and other forms of catatonia derived from spiritual possession -- whether real, imagined, induced, or otherwise. Rarely have I seen such a powerful physical response in the host as was observed with Lady [[Cydris]]. Be wary of further such encounters with thick, opaque mist. Whether derived of magic, alchemy, poison, or natural phenomenon is unknown, but it clearly had an effect on Lady [[Cydris]]. All others experiencing this mist have not, at this time, exhibited symptoms.

'''''Postulates:''''' Elven susceptibility? Magical alignment?

'''''Additional observations:''''' Many children congregated at the Court suddenly after the visions ceased. Dock worker not surprised by arm? Common occurrence? Investigate river upstream. Can Mist be bottled? Re-exposure sensitivity? Failed to collect sample. Saxe family and mist, mental magic, other known abilities?

As faithfully as capable,

Oro
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===Discovering the Ruins of Kragnek-Dzu===
<pre{{log2|font=arial|border=none}}>
[[File:Teras_Isle_Discovery_of_Kragnek_Dzu_(Oro).png|thumb|border|center|top|upright=1.5|Map annotations by Oro]]
''A stack of fire-charred pages have been added to the timeworn leather journal Oro carries with him. Maps scribbled over with red ink, pages scrawled with notes, drawings, and diagrams. On one begins a passage summarizing the contents.''

11th of Lormesta, 5124

As the sun fell below the western horizon an explosion rocked the continent of Elanith. Smoke and fire erupted from Teras Isle, shards of glaes and rock showering Kharam Dhzu.

I arrived to Teras Isle soon after the eruption. Locating a band of known adventurers, some members of my previous expeditions, I followed them to a battle raging outside the northern gates of Kharam Dhzu on the crossroads where Hog's Pen Tavern is located. When I arrived waves of Gigas unlike any I had previously seen in the northern reaches of Elanith were being slain in waves by Jaired, Daenamaryllis, Vyrshkana, Doj, Deleu, Bwa, and Korgath. Blood soaked the roads leading to the city. The band was being led by a dwarf I had never met, and who introduced himself as Voregrek Borthuum, Prince of Kharam Dhzu.

Our evening was about to spiral into chaos, volcano eruptions, demons, and the discovery of a lost dwarven city!

<span class="mw-customtoggle-noro2" style="color:#0000ff">Read on...</span><span class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" id="mw-customcollapsible-noro2">

Following the battle, the Gigas invaders retreated north along the Muagh river. Jaired Delone gave chase, scouring the eye of V'tull, but to no avail. The Gigas forces had retreated into the jungles along the banks of the Muagh. Discussion amongst ourselves revealed numerous signs that the Gigas were followers of V'tull. We postulated on where their encampment may be, attempting to decided how best to give chase. At that moment, Maros arrived with word that Artisan Gamordi, a clansmen of the Prince, wished to discuss the situation urgently with him back in Kharam Dzu.

Our small party split, some seeking the Gigas (who, admittedly, shouldn't have been all that hard to track -- but the jungle keeps many secrets), while the rest joined Prince Voregrek in the Clan Hall. Gamordi suggested we raft upon the Muagh River in search of the remaining Gigas. He quickly fashioned a number of rickety vessels behind Bentock's Adventurer's Rest on the east bank of the river. Joining us at the banks was a smoky amorphous humanoid shape that... declared he was a Maker of Chains. Not uncommon, blacksmiths in Kharam Dzu. Notably, for a smith, he was rather capable in combat.

We rafted the river and discovered that it had split into a northwestern and eastern route. These rafts remain, and I continue to explore the area. The western approach contained a blood-soaked cave housing a gigantic skeleton suspended on glaes chains. The eastern approach led us directly to a fortified encampment swarming with Gigas! We battered the barricade down and burst into a ruin similar to something Gamordi had described -- a place lost to the jungle known as Kragnek-Dzu. The ruins were of obvious dwarven design, though old, and abandoned. It appeared that the Gigas had made their encampment for invasion here in these ruins.

We suffered heavily casualties at the hands of the Gigas on the promenades within the fortress, but recovered quickly. In exploring the fortress, we noted a deformed mithril anvil of substantial size in what appeared to be a rubble-strewn marketplace. The entire area was bubbling with pyroclastic rock and volcanic eruptions. Among them was a massive boulder of dark, glaes-veined basalt. Climbing atop the boulder, I immediately realized it was draining the mana from the area. Spells fizzled, songs failed, magic of all forms seemed incapable of manifesting on the rock.

We were immediately attacked by the boulders resident, an enormous fire giant taller than any I have faced. Wielding a scintillating obsidian claidhmore, he furiously assaulted our cohort. When slain, his body would melt into molten magma, sink into the boulder, and he would reform moments later healed and energized. Screaming praise to V'tull, and demanding blood for his god, he began to challenge our party to duels. Each of his defeats was brief and his renewal swift.

After the fifth.. or sixth slaying, I lost count, I thought it wise to remove the giants corpse from the regenerative boulder. While our assembled company was defeating him easily, attrition would eventually be our downfall. Or more Gigas may surround the boulder. Grabbing his form before he was able to melt, I hauled him off the boulder and onto the promenade. The giant immediately decayed to ash.. and then hell broke loose. Magma erupted from all sides, immediately killing me and maiming others. I was eventually healed and resurrected by the town cleric.

[[File:Vathor_sketch_oro.png|thumb|border|left|top|upright=0.5|Vathor sketch by Oro]]
Upon returning to what we now know is likely Kragenk-Dzu, I was greeted by an army of diving vathor! Flying demons, whose demonic essence deflected all manner of magic. I provide here a rough sketch. Should you see such creatures and not be at the pinnacle of fighting tenacity I'd strongly advise running away. Needless to say, I was slain, brutally. But bore witness to the amazing prowess by our assembled party. They slew many of the demons before we were ultimately forced to escape with many injured and deceased.

Reporting back to Gamordi, he seems convinced the ruins we uncovered were indeed Kragenk-Dzu. He advised that the boulder, and the anvil we had spotted, were part of an ancient and magical forging center of the city.

Preparations are being made to return and hopefully recover more of the lost dwarven city in the near future.
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== Past Expeditions ==

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== Personal History ==

== Discovered Artifacts and Relics ==

Oro (platinum)

2024-01-13T07:26:25Z

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'''Oro''' (age approximately 26, birth date unknown) is a self-professed merchant from the farthest reaches of the North, claiming ancestry of the [[Wsalamir Arctic Clan]]. Friendly and verbose, the [[Giantkin]] is uncharacteristic of the stories of his people. He appeared in Eorgaen, 5112, in [[Icemule Trace]] -- recounting a long journey from the reaches north of [[Pinefar]]. Spending over a year travelling the cities of [[Elanith]], he proved a voracious study and student. He frequented the halls of the [[Elven Nations]], their libraries, and their workshops. His close confidant and friend, Nilandia Liserna, a sylvan mystic, empath, and scholar aided him in his education. In the year of 5113 he departed the southern cities of Elanith, saddled with new knowledge of the world, many treasures, and a caravan of goods. His expedition beyond [[Aenatumgana|Mt. Aenatumgana]] was, he claimed, an effort to connect his people with the modern world. Ten years hence, much the way he had come, he returned in the month of Eorgaen, 5123. In Lormesta, 5124 he founded Oro's Expedition Company (OEC) through investments that had matured during his absence. Leveraging the reach and finances of the OEC he scours Elanith for relics and artifacts of interest, lore, and information. To what end, remains unclear.

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== Recent Occurrences and Field Notes ==

<span class="mw-customtoggle-noro1 mw-customtoggle-noro2 mw-customtoggle-noro3 mw-customtoggle-noro4 mw-customtoggle-noro5 mw-customtoggle-noro6 mw-customtoggle-noro7 mw-customtoggle-noro8 mw-customtoggle-noro9 mw-customtoggle-noro10" style="color:#0000ff">'''Toggle all content</span>

===Malicious Mist in Ta'Vaalor===
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[[File:Vaalor mist oro.png|thumb|border|left|top|upright=0.50|A haunting mist on the Mistydeep River<br>Artist: Created by the uploader with Midjourney ]]
''A long and densely written entry within a timeworn leather journal in Oro's possession''

'''16th of Eorgaen, 5123'''

An accounting by Oro of the unusual happenings of [[Ta'Vaalor|Ta'vaalor]] potentially in connection with the missing Saxe family member, Thanela Saxe.

Rumors swirled this past week in [[Solhaven]] during the Koar Church fundraiser. Which are true or unfounded remains up for speculation. Notable accounts of arguments and accusations of inhuman behavior among the Saxe siblings was shared by individuals who wish to remain anonymous, during the local art exhibit. Further accounts and rumors suggesting that sanguine magic or other biologically derived enchantments may find cause in the absence of Lady Saxe. Hard evidence remained thin.

Today, an unusually thick and malign mist was observed rolling across the docks of [[Ta'Vaalor]] on the banks of the aptly named [[Mistydeep River]].

<span class="mw-customtoggle-noro1" style="color:#0000ff">Read on...</span><span class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" id="mw-customcollapsible-noro1">

Myself and others arrived soon after word had spread of the phenomenon, but as soon as it began, it had dissipated. Regrouping in King's Court we prepared to depart when Lady [[Cydris]] arrived, choking for breath and clearly shaken. Stricken by an intense thirst, we aided her in resting. With a racing heart beat, uneven breathing, and tremors she soon succumbed to a form of catatonia. Staring toward the southern docks, she murmured about "a light", "a woman", and the "sound of laughter". She rose to leave, but was impaired from doing so by those present at the time.

Her recovery came swiftly, but residual effects, including sudden weakness, violent outbursts, and an odd aggressiveness for her nature ensued. Weakness persisted and she was taken to rest.

Notably, [[Cydris]] described the woman in her vision. A red-haired woman, described similarly to accounts of the missing Lady Saxe. [[Cydris]] described the visions, and experience, as wholly unfriendly and malign and sensed danger in the vision. I will seek a more complete accounting from her, once she has fully recovered.

The remaining of us surveyed the docks where the Mist had been most prominent, and to which direction [[Cydris]]<nowiki/>had called. Drawing in an actively hooked fishing line from the dock, [[Oliviero (platinum)|Oliviero]] discovered a freshly severed arm and a tangle of dark hair. Before we could further examine the evidence, a dock worker kicked the corporeal remnant into the river. [[Vyrshkana (Platinum)|Vyrshkana]] reported the incident, and obstruction of the dockhand in our investigation, to the dock foreman -- though little came of the effort.

Lord [[Virion (platinum)|Virion]]... ''obvious smudging is visible across the page after Virion's name, a shadow of ink spelling out various titles that were summarily expunged dirties the parchment...'' reported our findings to the proper authorities of the fortress.

On a personal note, I have borne witness to many hallucinations, possessions, and other forms of catatonia derived from spiritual possession -- whether real, imagined, induced, or otherwise. Rarely have I seen such a powerful physical response in the host as was observed with Lady [[Cydris]]. Be wary of further such encounters with thick, opaque mist. Whether derived of magic, alchemy, poison, or natural phenomenon is unknown, but it clearly had an effect on Lady [[Cydris]]. All others experiencing this mist have not, at this time, exhibited symptoms.

'''''Postulates:''''' Elven susceptibility? Magical alignment?

'''''Additional observations:''''' Many children congregated at the Court suddenly after the visions ceased. Dock worker not surprised by arm? Common occurrence? Investigate river upstream. Can Mist be bottled? Re-exposure sensitivity? Failed to collect sample. Saxe family and mist, mental magic, other known abilities?

As faithfully as capable,

Oro
</span></pre>

===Discovering the Ruins of Kragnek-Dzu===
<pre{{log2|font=arial|border=none}}>
[[File:Teras_Isle_Discovery_of_Kragnek_Dzu_(Oro).png|thumb|border|center|top|upright=1.5|Map annotations by Oro]]
''A stack of fire-charred pages have been added to the timeworn leather journal Oro carries with him. Maps scribbled over with red ink, pages scrawled with notes, drawings, and diagrams. On one begins a passage summarizing the contents.''

11th of Lormesta, 5124

As the sun fell below the western horizon an explosion rocked the continent of Elanith. Smoke and fire erupted from Teras Isle, shards of glaes and rock showering Kharam Dhzu.

I arrived to Teras Isle soon after the eruption. Locating a band of known adventurers, some members of my previous expeditions, I followed them to a battle raging outside the northern gates of Kharam Dhzu on the crossroads where Hog's Pen Tavern is located. When I arrived waves of Gigas unlike any I had previously seen in the northern reaches of Elanith were being slain in waves by Jaired, Daenamaryllis, Vyrshkana, Doj, Deleu, Bwa, and Korgath. Blood soaked the roads leading to the city. The band was being led by a dwarf I had never met, and who introduced himself as Voregrek Borthuum, Prince of Kharam Dhzu.

Our evening was about to spiral into chaos, volcano eruptions, demons, and the discovery of a lost dwarven city!

<span class="mw-customtoggle-noro2" style="color:#0000ff">Read on...</span><span class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" id="mw-customcollapsible-noro2">

Following the battle, the Gigas invaders retreated north along the Muagh river. Jaired Delone gave chase, scouring the eye of V'tull, but to no avail. The Gigas forces had retreated into the jungles along the banks of the Muagh. Discussion amongst ourselves revealed numerous signs that the Gigas were followers of V'tull. We postulated on where their encampment may be, attempting to decided how best to give chase. At that moment, Maros arrived with word that Artisan Gamordi, a clansmen of the Prince, wished to discuss the situation urgently with him back in Kharam Dzu.

Our small party split, some seeking the Gigas (who, admittedly, shouldn't have been all that hard to track -- but the jungle keeps many secrets), while the rest joined Prince Voregrek in the Clan Hall. Gamordi suggested we raft upon the Muagh River in search of the remaining Gigas. He quickly fashioned a number of rickety vessels behind Bentock's Adventurer's Rest on the east bank of the river. Joining us at the banks was a smoky amorphous humanoid shape that... declared he was a Maker of Chains. Not uncommon, blacksmiths in Kharam Dzu. Notably, for a smith, he was rather capable in combat.

We rafted the river and discovered that it had split into a northwestern and eastern route. These rafts remain, and I continue to explore the area. The western approach contained a blood-soaked cave housing a gigantic skeleton suspended on glaes chains. The eastern approach led us directly to a fortified encampment swarming with Gigas! We battered the barricade down and burst into a ruin similar to something Gamordi had described -- a place lost to the jungle known as Kragnek-Dzu. The ruins were of obvious dwarven design, though old, and abandoned. It appeared that the Gigas had made their encampment for invasion here in these ruins.

We suffered heavily casualties at the hands of the Gigas on the promenades within the fortress, but recovered quickly. In exploring the fortress, we noted a deformed mithril anvil of substantial size in what appeared to be a rubble-strewn marketplace. The entire area was bubbling with pyroclastic rock and volcanic eruptions. Among them was a massive boulder of dark, glaes-veined basalt. Climb atop the boulder, I immediately realized it was draining the mana from the area. Spells fizzled, songs failed, magic of all forms seemed incapable of manifesting on the rock.

We were immediately attacked by the boulders resident, an enormous fire giant taller than any I have faced. Wielding a scintillating obsidian claidhmore, he furiously assaulted our cohort. When slain, his body would melt into molten magma, sink into the boulder, and he would reform moments later healed and energized. Screaming praise to V'tull, and demanding blood for his god, he began to challenge our party to duels. Each of his defeats was brief and his renewal swift.

After the fifth.. or sixth slaying, I lost count, I thought it wise to remove the giants corpse from the regenerative boulder. While our assembled company was defeating him easily, attrition would eventually be our downfall. Or more Gigas may surround the boulder. Grabbing his form before he was able to melt, I hauled him off the boulder and onto the promenade. The giant immediately decayed to ash.. and then hell broke loose. Magma erupted from all sides, immediately killing me and maiming others. I was eventually healed and resurrected by the town cleric.

[[File:Vathor_sketch_oro.png|thumb|border|left|top|upright=0.5|Vathor sketch by Oro]]
Upon returning to what we now know is likely Kragenk-Dzu, I was greeted by an army of diving vathor! Flying demons, whose demonic essence deflected all manner of magic. I provide here a rough sketch. Should you see such creatures and not be at the pinnacle of fighting tenacity I'd strongly advise running away. Needless to say, I was slain, brutally. But bore witness to the amazing prowess by our assembled party. They slew many of the demons before we were ultimately forced to escape with many injured and deceased.

Reporting back to Gamordi, he seems convinced the ruins we uncovered were indeed Kragenk-Dzu. He advised that the boulder, and the anvil we had spotted, were part of an ancient and magical forging center of the city.

Preparations are being made to return and hopefully recover more of the lost dwarven city in the near future.
</span></pre>

== Past Expeditions ==

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Oro (platinum)

2024-01-13T01:49:09Z

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Oro (platinum)

2024-01-12T20:28:26Z

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Oro (platinum)

2024-01-12T20:28:08Z

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Oro (platinum)

2024-01-12T20:27:35Z

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JGENGLISH: An edit of https://gswiki.play.net/File:Teras_Isle_Regional_final.jpg to include writing and annotations by Oro, done by the uploader.

== Summary ==
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Arlise (platinum)

2024-01-11T23:28:10Z

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'''Arlisé''' is...

Cast of characters

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Please feel free to add a brief description of your [[Platinum]] character(s) here.

== NPCS ==

=== Jeofrey ===
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Originally an evil magic user with plans for world domination, he created a group of Homunculi called [[Cast_of_characters#Sieka|Seika]]s to assist him in his work...as well as a vessel for his soul, a young child named Chayka. Through the efforts of various adventurers, he was dissuaded from his evil plan and convinced to walk instead the path of Light. Creating a golem body to inhabit instead of the child, he transferred his essence and became the Golem Lich. He has been missing for many months, along with his vessel Chayka.

=== Leiana ===
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Leiana, daughter of the Thrak Inn proprietor Sabrien, has lived in Wehnimer's Landing most of her life. After losing her mother to disease at the age of 10, Leiana and her father moved to the Landing in search of community and business. She has never left the walls of the Frontier town until 5118 and has led a very sheltered life that bred privilege and a dangerous sense of curiosity as a result. Acting upon that desire to explore, she has begun seeking out contracts for treasure and adventure across Elanthia.

=== Seika ===
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[[Cast_of_characters#Jeofrey|Jeofrey]] created a total of 20 Seika Homunculi originally that awakened upon his death. Many were killed by a mob of villagers angry at the experiments her father, [[Cast_of_characters#Jeofrey|Jeofrey]], was performing in their village. After [[Cast_of_characters#Jeofrey|Jeofrey]] abandoned his evil plans, he deactivated 11 of them...but one Seika escaped his control and was able to absorb the essences of the others. She then was able to use [[Cast_of_characters#Jeofrey|Jeofrey]]'s eye to become a lich herself. She has been tormenting [[Cast_of_characters#Qualeric|Qualeric]], possessing him and using his essence to create a group of hybrid bats and elves. Currently her whereabouts are unknown, but dark rumors surround her and her future plots to gain even more power. She has claimed to kill Chayka and [[Cast_of_characters#Jeofrey|Jeofrey]] herself.

===Olivia ===
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[[Olivia|Olivia Holster]], widow of Lord Eamon Murchadha and Mother of [[Jaynon]] Murchadha. Born into a lowborn Honneland family. Married into the Murchadha family (a minor noble house in Honneland) with a desire to improve her power, status and legacy. Fell in to the dark arts through societal pressures, and later following the death of her husband made a pact with and joined a clandestine order, in return for aid in her social climbing. She attempted, and ultimately failed, to have her son [[Jaynon]] killed and yet had already announced his death in the Immuron courts. This allowed her to marry Lord Holster (another minor Honneland noble, and former rival to Eamon), passing the Murchadha estates into his name and denying [[Jaynon|Jaynon]] his inheritance and birthright.

===Geobuh ===
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A dainty goblin that had his neck snapped at a social gathering while enjoying a bowl of soup.

== Players ==

=== Achsel ===
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Lead singer of the heavy metal band 'Mithril Mayhem', this gruff but friendly fellow is constantly on the look out for inspiration for his next song. With hits like 'Invar Mine Lady', 'On the Razern's Edge', and 'Caligos Isle', he and his fellow band member [[Cast_of_characters#Zundrar|Zundrar]] have played in such famous locales as The Bluerock Brewery in Zul Logoth, The Thrak Inn at the Landing, and even Caligos Isle itself. He doesn't pay much attention to politics, though he has a keen sense of right and wrong. He is also a bit of a lush, and has strong opinions on beards, music, and beer.

=== [[Arlise (platinum)|Arlisé]] ===
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=== Calauria ===
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The shy and rather secretive Elven bard hails from Ta’Illistim, but shows little interest in returning. Possessed of proper, ladylike manners, she is easily taken aback by some of her acquaintances, particularly [[Cast_of_characters#Tanai|Tanai]], hinting at a sheltered upbringing. Her current itinerant and rather poor state, given her apparent background, could lead to disconcerting questions. In the past few months, she has started a relationship with Ulvian, grown friendlier, and developed a noticeable distrust of [[Cast_of_characters#Whick|Lord Whick]].

=== Daenamaryllis ===
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A young woman that arrived in Wehnimer's Landing in the year of 5118. She left home to take control of her own future rather than being married off as is the fate for most women. She became an empath and an accomplished adventurer, performing jobs for the various branches of the Adventurer's Guilds located throughout the lands. She tends to be a bit judgmental and does her best to help others in need, but chafes at her lack of power. Power is what she believes will provide her with security and freedom.

At present, Daenamaryllis has become an arrogant, power-obsessed, vain glorious woman who revels in dominating others. The twins, Heliantha and Roseantha, currently serve her as maids.

Daenamaryllis has become known as the "Sinistral of Tyranny".

=== Dazen ===
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Full of boundless energy that could only be described as 'manic', the always cheerful jester seems in a perpetual state of song, dance, and fits of laughter. Dazen and his twin brother Vinar were abandoned by a traveling Carnival of Freaks for dubious reasons, though it is implied it was because they were getting too old for their act and becoming too hard to control. Often hinting at a past of horrid abuse and gleefully reveling in those memories with clapping hands and squealing giggles, Dazen seems to outright revel in pain both inflicted and sustained. Obsessed with fire and the 'Dancing Light', he also babbles about a mysterious Lady in White with burnt out eyes with reverence and awe. "Watch them dance in the dancing light, we'll sing them back and dance all night!"

=== Ezabell ===
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Ezabell hasn’t been seen since she was a toddler on the 30th of Jastatos. She’d been carried through the portal that night in the arms of an Aelotoi man, no relations to the child he carried. After he’d hid her away for protection when the kiramon came through the portal after the Aelotoi, she was gone. Now she’s rejoined Elanthian society, albeit, a little off than any normal teenager. She doesn’t talk much about where she’s been the last 16 years but is all too eager to mention her favorite ways to tear local wild nuisances apart.

=== Gedeon ===
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Gedeon was raised in the Wsalamir Arctic Clan, and yet he doesn't share the need for seclusion like most the clan. Gedeon enjoys being out amongst others and heeds the call for adventure. While he is a quiet man, he is a devout follower of Ronan and became a paladin in Ronan's honor. He would often visit the temple in Icemule to say his prayers, but lately, you can see him wandering with his new found companion, Jourwen.

=== Graison ===
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A Paladin of Lord Voln, [[Graison]] is dedicated to releasing the trapped souls within the undead. This was his passion since he was a young child when he wanted to follow in his father's footsteps. He also had a vision of Lord Voln visiting him in a dream when he was a young boy. He has recently helped protect Wehnimer's Landing from those fallen from their faith of the Order of Voln. On a personal quest, Graison has learned he has a younger sister that was born from his father and another woman. Her name is [[Sayakah]].

=== Heliantha ===
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Twin to Roseantha.

When Heliantha first arrived in the town of Wehnimer's Landing she was a brash young woman and eager to begin her new life as an adventurer. Her cocky attitude and loud mouth ways got her into trouble more often than not and most people generally loathed her due to these traits. She has become an accomplished sorceress and seasoned adventurer. One day, Heliantha abruptly donned a maid's livery and began to serve Daenamaryllis and has continued to do so at present. Her sudden change in personality and shift to a life of servitude have no explanation at this time.

=== Idun ===
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Child-like and free spirited, Idun is kind, very friendly and genuinely cares about others. She loves to be helpful and is easily entertained, usually finding joy in small things. A difficult and isolated past has had a profound effect on her. She is most comfortable with another in control. Idun can be unpredictable and is a bit "touched", even unstable at times. She is loyal to a fault and values those in her life above all else. Her dislike of being alone is somewhat mitigated by her love of gowns, toys and visits with her animal friends.

=== Ilynriel ===
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Ilynriel left her home in Ta’Ardenai to improve her skills as a warrior and train with the Guardians of Sunfist, and can most often be found in Ta’Illistim or Ta’Vaalor. Born a bastard, she has steadfastly ignored her father’s side of the family all her life, but is now finding it rather harder to avoid at least one of her half-siblings.

=== Ishvari ===
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A banished Priestess of Lumnis, this knowledge-thirsty Faendryl found an alternative method to become an empath (but not without some heavy side-effects). She is polite, somewhat quiet, and very ladylike although she is not above the <del>frequent</del> occasional snide remark. She is self-conscious of her pale skin, and dislikes anyone staring at her one crimson-hued eye for too long. They can stare at her silver eye all they want, however.

=== Jaired ===
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Professional enabler and peddler of meddling, Jaired currently holds the position of Fleet Admiral of Karl and Co. Transport and Freight along with his wife, Leiana. "When it absolutely must go. Go with Karl and Co." Rumor has it their fleet is little more than a front for their smuggling and treasure hunting operations, but those are mostly baseless accusations and hearsay.

=== [[Jaynon_(platinum)|Jaynon]] ===
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Formerly a Paladin of Voln, he has recently heard the call of the Sea...partly due to his affiliation with the rogue Tanai. Lord Whick and Jaynon have been bitter enemies, with Jaynon taking a leading role in the prosecution of Whick after his arrest for the kidnapping of Leiana and murder of Izaar. He is a guardian in combat, fighting with a sword and shield, more concerned with the protection of his allies than a quick and easy win. He values honour above all else, and is honest to a fault.

=== Jourwen ===
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Jourwen doesn't know much about her parents, only that her mother was an entertainer to men as they travelled through Highmount onto Kragswell. Jourwen was sent to River's Rest when she was 5 years old to get an education from the cleric's guild there and learn the teachings of Ronan, Lord of Dreams. Now, as a young adult, she visits temples and shrines learning what she can about Ronan and aiding those in need with her companion, Gedeon.

=== [[Kaija_(platinum)|Kaija]] ===
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An orphaned Aelotoi adopted by [[Jaynon]] and [[Tanai]]. She has chosen Niima as her patron deity, also deciding to follow her adopted father's footsteps in joining the Order of Voln. She is a young woman whose emotions are in a constant state of fluctuation, and she has a temper that she does her best to hide from anyone who isn't family. Normally prim and polite, Kaija has a tendency to be a know-it-all and correct people if they use bad grammar or display manners she deems unacceptable. She does, however, enjoy helping people in need and is generally friendly to most (unless their name is Ezabell).

=== Kiver ===
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Named after the boat he was found in, Kiver washed ashore as a babe at [[Maelstrom Bay]] in [[River's Rest]]. He was adopted into the arms of a reclusive sect of druids. The Half-Krol found his calling not with the old Gods of his [[Klinast]], but instead a militant dedication to the Goddess [[Imaera]].

=== Lilium ===
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[[Lilium]]'s origins are as strange as her appearance. One day she appeared on [[Lorminstra]]'s Altar in the [[Wehnimer's Landing]] Temple without any memories or possessions to explain who she is or how she came to be there. She took her appearance on Lorminstra's Altar as a sign to dedicate herself to the Goddess. As a Master in the Order of Voln, Lilium is quite zealous in scouring the undead from all of Elanthia.

Recent events involving Lord Whick and the death of Bareth have caused Lilium to reconsider her role in safeguarding the souls of the innocent. A more proactive approach, rather than reactive, might be the best way to prevent another tragedy from occurring.

=== Luthene ===
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Having called both New Ta'Faendryl and Ta'Nalfein home at different points in his life, Luthene is now in the process of exploring other regions while plying his trades as locksmith, loresinger, and lapidary. His coloring is considered suspiciously dark for a Nalfein elf by some, his blue eyes uncharacteristic of a Faendryl by others. A bastard by both blood and inclination, he has a deep appreciation for the proper application of violence as well as the crisp lines of a well-tailored coat.

=== [[Maltreis_(platinum)|Maltreis]] ===
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Maltreis is a former Emporion spice trader, which is to say in Faendryl society a spy. The failure of both his sons (Nystros and Taelarn) to master Sorcery has caused him to take up the mantle of the Art so his family could gain in prestiege. He knows that it will be centuries before he learns anything of real power at home in new Ta'Faendryl and so decides to travel to Wehnimer's Landing, believing that the freedom of the frontier ("the Diaspora of Ta'Faendryl" as Maltreis calls it) will allow his Sorcery to blossom. Of course, his love Cyntherea traveled with him, his constant companion.

=== Maralah ===
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Born and raised in Ta’Loenthra, Maralah began traveling after the untimely death of her twin brother as well as the beginning of Jastev-granted dreams and visions. While she prefers to stick to the Elven Nations, she can often be found in Mist Harbor or Wehnimer’s Landing as well. Understandably reticent about being a sorceress, she strives to balance this by being a member of Voln, but lacks the proper mindset about undead.

=== Narsisius ===
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A young half-elf who arrived in Wehnimer's Landing in the summer of 5123. He comes from the wilds between Ta'Nalfein and the Turamzzyrian Empire. He can usually be found training, or working for the Adventurer's Guilds around Elanthia.

=== Nemdenia ===
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An albino elf born a poor commoner that caught the attention of an eccentric Nalfein noblewoman that had her trained in various arts for entertainment and companionship. As an adolescent, Nemdenia was trained in the use of Nalfein Fans for dancing and speaking. She even dabbled in divination through the use of a Nalfien [[Black Rose Deck]] as her patron viewed her albinism as something supernatural. The constant political maneuvering that plagues the city of Ta'Nalfein eventually led to the death of her patron and nearly her own. Nemdenia fled the city and made her way to Wehnimer's Landing to start her life anew as a warrior in training and earning some coin as an adventurer.

=== Oezzilm ===
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Oezzilm is a local farmer of pumpkins, turnips, and carrots near the Landing. He hopes to eventually have an entire herd of urghs and roltons, but so far he has only one of each. He can be found selling produce around town, fresh after coming from his fields. He has a brother who is great at plowing, and a collection of hoes.

=== [[Oro_(platinum)|Oro]] ===
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Oro is a self-professed merchant from the farthest reaches of the North, claiming ancestry of the [[Wsalamir Arctic Clan|Wsalamir Clan]]. Friendly and verbose, the Giantkin is uncharacteristic of the stories of his people. He appeared in Eorgaen, 5023, in Icemule Trace -- recounting a long journey from the reaches north of Pinefar. Spending over a year travelling the cities of Elanith, he proved a voracious study and student. He frequented the halls of the Seven Cities, their libraries, and their workshops. His close confidant and friend, Nilandia Liserna, a sylvan mystic, empath, and scholar aided him in his education.

In the year of 5025 he departed the southern cities of Elanith, saddled with new knowledge of the world, many treasures, and a caravan of goods. His expedition beyond Mt. Aenatumgana was, he claimed, an effort to connect his people with the modern world.

Ten years hence, much the way he had come, he returned in the month of Eorgaen, 5123. He scours Elanith for relics and artifacts of interest, lore, and knowledge. To what end, remains unclear.

=== Phocosoen ===
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Everyone deserves to be free and [[Phocosoen]] will always oppose those that seek to enslave others against their will like any member of the [[Maeramil Wind Runner Clan]] should. Boisterous and outgoing, he loves nothing more than regaling others with the numerous ways in which he crushes his enemies on a daily basis. The [[Guardians of Sunfist]] have no shortage of enemies and Phocosoen is a proud member that is all too happy to mercilessly slaughter [[orc]]s, [[troll]]s, [[ogre]]s, and [[giant]]s. Freedom, muscles, and a song in his heart is all a man needs to enjoy life.

=== Qadheon ===
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Qadheon is a Faendryl monk and proprieter of [[https://ps.lichproject.org/shops/6077 Ta'Faendryl Importers]], a business located in the Landing. In addition to this, he has been searching for some lost artifacts, but rumor has it he is not very focused on this task. He has been seen worshipping [[Ghezresh]] on Caligos Isle and made mention of importing that spirit's presence to the Isle of Four Winds. Despite this intrigue, he is a generally nice fellow.

=== Qoshkalia ===
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Qoshkalia is a Faendryl paladin of Fash'lo'nae dedicated to learning, particularly the use of bladed weapons. In the pursuit of this, she has been recognized as a Palestra of the Peltast rank. Recently she has been seen working with [[Cast_of_characters#Whick|Lord Whick]] in his actions in the Landing, though the exact reasoning is unclear. Word has it that she originally came to the Landing to work on finding some ancient artifacts for a Sorcerer in Ta'Faendryl.

=== Qualeric ===
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[[Qualeric]] is an elderly wizard, student of the arcane, and an active follower of [[Jastev]]. Hailing from Ta'Illistim, he enjoys learning, raining destruction upon usurpers, and all the opportunities the Shining City represents. He is currently engaged in sorting through some things owned by his widow that were recently found in an old storage shed, as well as attempting to discover a new metal which he believes exists but is otherwise undocumented. His familiar is a bat named Klysmar.

=== Rafferty ===
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A rustic half-elf from the edges of the Wyrdeep Forest, [[Rafferty]] is wary of towns and their folk but cautiously open to broadening his horizons. He's got little patience for airs and graces, and bullies make him grouchy. Though he keeps his problems to himself, he's willing to lend a hand where he's able. Literally, if you're missing one. A friend to many birds, he can sometimes be found in the company of a peg-legged parrot or a small flock of parrotlets. For some reason, people keep mistaking him for a pirate.

=== Ravenfritha ===
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Calm, quiet, and a skilled mediator, [[Ravenfritha]] (or Raven to her friends) prefers healing to fighting, though she isn’t above hunting undead when necessary. She currently resides in Mist Harbor but spends most of her time in the Landing where her twin brother, [[Tygerfrith]], spends most of his time, though their past was spent in other lands with far different prospects. She enjoys alchemy and fletching as well as other crafts, and can sometimes be taken over by an imp of mischief, encouraged by some and discouraged by others.

=== Roseantha ===
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Twin to Heliantha.

When Heliantha first arrived in the town of Wehnimer's Landing she was a demure young woman and reluctant to begin her life as an adventurer. She was very shy at first but as she traveled the lands and learned new things she gained confidence from these new experiences. At some point, Roseantha developed an obsession for Whick that cannot be explained to this day. She has become an accomplished wizardess and seasoned adventurer. One day, Roseantha abruptly donned a maid's livery and began to serve Daenamaryllis and has continued to do so at present. Her sudden change in personality and shift to a life of servitude have no explanation at this time.

=== [[Sensati_(platinum)|Sensati]] ===
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A plate full of apparent contradictions Sensati is warrior to the core, aristocratic to a fault, intensely proud of her Vaalorian heritage, yet bohemian in her leisure time and not at all close minded about whom she calls friend...or lover.

=== [[Tanai_(platinum)|Tanai]] ===
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Tanai is an orphaned street-rat with a mysterious past. She loves sweets, the ocean, her husband [[Cast_of_characters#Jaynon|Jaynon]], and her children, not necessarily in that order. She is a Siren, though her illusion is that of a half-elf (with an unfortunate height deficiency as opposed to her Siren-self). She can be very blunt, downright rude, and occasionally volatile. She is also, however, fiercely loyal, nice (once in a blue moon), and enthusiastic (mostly for sweets).

=== Thresher ===
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A quiet man, this Half-Krolvin is very devout in his worship of [[Marlu|Marlu, the Lord of Destruction]]. Despite the stereotype surrounding Marluites, Thresher himself is a kind soul, not wishing any undue harm or pain to anyone. However, he is of the firm belief that the only way to have lasting peace on Elanthia is to 'start fresh'...by burning what is, so something new may grow. He believes Undead are an Abomination to his Lord...and fights against any who practice such arts fiercely.

=== Valewyn ===
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The son of a [[Order_of_Lorekeepers|Lorekeeper]] and an [[Artificers|Artificer]], Valewyn was taught at an early age the values of wisdom and justice and as such found himself devoted to Koar. Often perceived as distant and aloof, he prefers brevity and being succinct. During the invasions brought upon his home of [[Ta'Illistim|Ta'Illistim]] by Vindicto, his soul was ripped apart and sent scattering throughout the planes where he spent what seemed like eternity. Eventually coming face to face with [[Marlu|Marlu, the Lord of Destruction]], he pledged servitude in exchange for life. Now, he values the pursuit of personal power above all else, though he is not above cracking a joke from time to time.

=== Whick ===
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[[Whick (platinum)|Great Lord Whick]] is polite, personable, and a man of many talents and much knowledge. He is gracious, can be kind, and he always is ready to help out those in need. At the same time, he is an unrepentant murderer and has a sadistic streak that runs deep. There is much speculation as to who his true masters are. Though he claims to be working for the Empire and the Hall of Mages (and many records will confirm that), dark whispers in the shadows speak of his true loyalty lying to something...other. He is meticulous and clever, preferring manipulation to brute force. He values order and security.

Quote: "Sometimes, to do something good, you have to be the bad guy."

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Jaired (platinum)

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