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2025-09-09T23:56:11Z

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== Crossposted Items ==
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*User:talk Crossposts: [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET/User talk crossposts]]

== Have a question or comment? ==
'''Feel free to drop it here! Please add <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> following your message so I can easily identify who left it and when. Thank you!''' [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:56, 3 July 2024 (CDT)

HOST-GSKEBECHET (talk | contribs) (Added back in the OTS analyze and rearranged a couple things to conform with item script style guide.)

You added back in the Tier 1 analyze in the OTS section. [[User:GS4ALASTIR|GS4ALASTIR]] ([[User talk:GS4ALASTIR|talk]]) 10:46, 25 April 2023 (CDT)

Hello, I added a line that Stormyrain gave permission to use the image of the Sisters on the wiki [[User:STACYWALTER|STACYWALTER]] ([[User talk:STACYWALTER|talk]]) 06:16, 12 October 2023 (CDT)

You're doing great work. Thank you, I appreciate it. [[User:VANKRASN39|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39|talk]]) 11:42, 7 November 2023 (CST)
:Thank you! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]])

Hi, I got your message about the copywrite problems with my image. I created the image myself using Artflow.ai but I have literally no idea how to comply with your request and I can barely even understand it. I cant find the Discord page you linked to either. Could you please walk me through this step by step? I have almost no skill at coding or using the wiki...I created my page by simple cut and paste and rewriting.

Thank you,
Toxyrox

PS if it would be easier on Discord, my username there is Avondell.
:Thank you very much! I have responded on your talk page.[[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:37, 15 November 2023 (CST)

Go ahead and delete the image 'Bochser 1.jpg' I just uploaded it to test my script that would allow people to view character portraits in game by directing them to their Wiki character profile and I had no idea it would be such a hassle to just upload an image. - Tgo01

Hello Kebechet! I did an oopsie last night and created a [[:Category:Profession Services|Profession Services]] category... and this morning, I realized there is a [[Player service]] page that should probably actually be the page used for the Profession Services category. Is there anyway that you know of to combine the two, under the 'Player Service' name/page? Thanks, and apologies for any hassles this has created! [[User:GS4-OPTHERIA|GS4-OPTHERIA]] ([[User talk:GS4-OPTHERIA|talk]]) 12:22, 18 November 2024 (CST)
:Hello! I ran the topic by the Wiki team, and after confirming have consolidated the information. The category has been updated to be [[:Category:Profession services|Profession services]] to conform with the [[Gswiki:Style guide|Style guide]], and I have moved the preexisting article to [[Profession service]] to confirm with the standard term for the service type. Additionally, the article is indexed first (and linked in the explanation of) the category, so it is featured prominently as the article for detailed information on the services. The original category does not appear to be linked from anywhere, including Discord (as a cursory check), so I have deleted it to avoid some issues with category redirects on the wiki. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:49, 19 November 2024 (CST)

Hello, GSKEBECHET, thank you for helping me out with my image on my page. It is very confusing for me for some reason but I'm grateful you showed me the way. (19 DEC 24)````

Hello! I removed my edits to the Player profile page that violated policy. I apologize as I had forgotten that part of policy. Apologies were issued to the offended character as well - Jumbodog [[User:JUMBODOG|JUMBODOG]] ([[User talk:JUMBODOG|talk]]) 00:27, 4 February 2025 (CST)

=== Timeline - Imperial Northern Aggression ===

HOST-GSKEBECHET talk contribs‎ m 21,289 bytes −54‎ Updating categories; unofficial content such as player-written should avoid manually using the wiki's over-encompassing categories

Burghalgnome:Sorry was copying the format used by [[Modern Imperial History:5103 - Present]] and [[Protectorate]] both of which are player=written and have manually added categories. Perhaps you can explain.
:Hi there, BURGHALGNOME. In response to your question about the categories I adjusted on your article, [[Timeline - Imperial Northern Aggression]], this was done because the article is presented as a character-written essay and was labeled by you as player-written creative content. Typically, larger over-encompassing categories such as those for an entire nation or race are not appropriate for player-written creative content. However, smaller and more specialized categories, such as [[:Category:Wehnimer's Landing Independence]] are still very appropriate; those smaller categories are in turn lumped in with the larger categories to help facilitate users finding related articles. The examples you shared are standalone articles and not player-written creative content. There are tens of thousands of articles on the Gswiki, and if some are improperly categorized, other moderators or I adjust them as we run across them. This is usually, but not exclusively, based on which articles have had recent edits, which is why you likely have seen that many older articles are not necessarily in compliance with current Gswiki Style Guide standards.
:Hopefully this explanation helps you better understand why I adjusted the categories on your article. As an aside, if you ever need to add a "signature" to a something communicated via talk pages, you can do so by inserting <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> following your message; while not required, it is an easy way to do so that is built into the Media Wiki software. Thank you again for all of your contributions to the Gswiki. Please let me know if you have any other questions. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:02, 23 May 2024 (CDT)

Thank you for the signature tip, if I understand what you are saying the reason this article was changed but the other timeline is not in need of a change is because I marked it as player written and it has a forward that implies it is in character, if I remove that the tags can be reapplied? [[User:BURGHALGNOME|BURGHALGNOME]] ([[User talk:BURGHALGNOME|talk]]) 09:54, 23 May 2024 (CDT)
:You're welcome. To answer your question, because you flagged the article as being a creative work, it is held to those specific standards ([[Gswiki:Style guide/Creative works]]) and is also not necessarily subject to other standards that apply to different types of articles. If the timeline is instead a general article, then it is held to those other standards outlined in the [[Gswiki:Style guide]]. This means that it may be heavily edited by many other users and is subject to presenting information in a neutral/in-universe point of view. If the creative-works template was added by mistake, then it is possible that some categories may be appropriate for adding back in if the template is removed. It would also mean that I review the content for any additional style guide requirements and make those adjustments as needed. For example, some of the character quotes may be removed entirely and some of the text changed to adhere to the style guide standards. If you have further questions, you are welcome to reach out to me however you may not get a timely response, in which case I suggest asking the Wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926 Discord forum's wiki thread]. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:11, 23 May 2024 (CDT)

Thank you, I believe all the character quotes in the actual timeline are NPCs for the sake of context. I will discuss this with some other parties and decide on a direction. It may just make more sense to edit the other timeline with this information or to remove the template and leave it as is but that will depend on overall expectations. [[User:BURGHALGNOME|BURGHALGNOME]] ([[User talk:BURGHALGNOME|talk]]) 10:54, 23 May 2024 (CDT)

[[User:LARSERBEAM|LARSERBEAM]] ([[User talk:LARSERBEAM|talk]]) 18:56, 9 September 2025 (CDT) Hello Kebechet! I've attempted to edit the talk page on for Peatwyn to help clarify. Let me know if I can continue to elucidate or if I made an error in formatiting. I'm still learning a lot!

== Elanthian Journals ==

By chance are you able to see the old Elanthian Journal pages that were deleted? I just realized.. one thing I never did is check each one to see what linked to them. I just found a page that linked to a Journal :| [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 16:52, 12 August 2022 (CDT)
:Unfortunately, no. Once a page is deleted, it is gone-gone. However, I was able to pull up a list of broken links and adjusted seven pages that appeared to reference the old Elanthian Journal pages. That should hopefully have caught any others that were overlooked! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:45, 16 August 2022 (CDT)
::Thank you for this! Sorry for the extra work. [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 15:44, 16 August 2022 (CDT)
:::Very welcome! Thank you for bringing up the potential of broken links. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:14, 17 August 2022 (CDT)

== Merchants template ==

I cobbled that template together in 2019, as a pet project, when things were a little more relaxed. So many people were "remember that one merchant? Where were they?? What did they look like??", that it felt like a good addition. Anyway, it was a build based on a template someone else had done, as you've likely read. I had planned on continuing work on it, then COVID hit and I turned into a homeschool teacher for two young teenagers.

Venues: the primary reason I changed those venues was because it was putting so many merchants into categories that didn't exist, and may not have been the best one for them to go into ''at the time''. By restricting category to "wandering" and others that already had a category made, it cut down on "red links"; '''wandering''' moved them into a common category and could be changed later. '''Generally speaking''', if they had a mention in their blurb as to what venue they attended, I removed the category that was causing a red link, although any that did not were likely an oversight (the notable exception being Elsia - I forgot to research her item, '''Fancy Coats''', so I could add the venue).

Towns: it was my intention to adapt the template to allow them to be placed into the category '''for that town'''. An example would be citizen-only merchants such as Duvernith or Davro. I admittedly got wrapped up in EG item-adding and had not gotten back to fixing the "town" venue to populate into town pages instead of '''Town''' NPCs, a category that doesn't exist, so I just left town uncategorized for the time being.

Many of those merchants I added myself with no real idea of what venues they had visited, in that hopes of at least having an appearance and a basic blurb to be expanded upon later. I had intended to continue with the work after EG and add category pages where appropriate. That section of the template might get pretty long for particularly industrious merchants! '''Wandering''' seemed like a good fit if they didn't have what might be considered a "primary festival" (for example, I wouldn't be surprised to see Elusionari in a lot of places!).

That said, I get that once you add a template, you basically lose any claim to it being "yours". However, no one else really took an interest in it, and I was told it would need work anyway, so I figured I was all right to try to adapt it to '''not''' use non-existent categories for the time being, since many (most?) of them had venue linked in the blurb or the body of the article. (TL:DR yet? LOL)[[User:ECHEAUX|ECHEAUX]] ([[User talk:ECHEAUX|talk]]) 12:09, 26 October 2022 (CDT)

== Table updates ==

Hello! As I'm sure you've noticed, I've been going through and updating older items to the newer templates. A lot of them are simple, but some of them require more time; much more time in some cases. For those, fortunately, a lot them are more or less copy and paste for the verb lists with a few minor tweaks. I noticed that on a couple of them you've gone back and added in formatting for data tables for accessibility purposes. I read up on that today and I'll be sure to add that going forward, but I was wondering: Is there a way you are finding those that need it or are you just kind of seeing them as I'm doing them? I'd be more than happy to go back correct the formatting on those, but if there's a way I can find them more "wholesale" than "piecemeal", that would make the job easier. [[User:ECHEAUX|ECHEAUX]] ([[User talk:ECHEAUX|talk]]) 17:40, 9 November 2022 (CST)
:Hi there! Part of my duties as one of our wiki mods are to review recent page changes to ensure that they are appropriate to the wiki, are accurate, are appropriately named as a page or subpage, and that they generally comply with the wiki style guide. So you'll see me doing things like updating pages to use new template standards, moving pages that aren't named properly, fixing redirects or broken links, updating categories, reviewing pages listed in [[:Category:Marked for Deletion]], and similar "moderator" type duties focused on overall wiki consistency that are not expected of general users who instead are adding new content to the wiki. One of the standards set out by the style guide and the wiki team is to ensure that the wiki is as accessible as possible to everyone, including our users who rely on a screen reader. If I run across any pages during my patrols that don't meet current standards, including tables that are not set up in a way for screen readers to properly capture, part of my job as a moderator is to update them accordingly. Since you have been incredibly active on the wiki over the past couple of months, I am much more likely to review your edits than other users due to sheer volume; that's why it might look like I'm going back to change pages you've touched more so than other users. Thanks for inquiring! If you'd like to know more about our moderator team or what our role is, I encourage you to ask on the Gemstone Discord's #wiki-talk channel where one of the GMs overseeing the wiki can chime in. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:11, 10 November 2022 (CST)
::Oh, I understand that. I just wasn't sure if there was an easy way to see pages with certain errors so I could fix those that I missed them on. I can go through my contribution list and do it, though. Thanks for getting back to me![[User:ECHEAUX|ECHEAUX]] ([[User talk:ECHEAUX|talk]]) 10:34, 10 November 2022 (CST)

== Northern Sentinel's Decree==

Hello! My intention with this page was to list only the legal characteristics of the Landing's protectorate status. I deliberately did not want to include the preamble and ending of the letter, as they did not carry legal weight. As such, I would like to revert it to a version which contains only those legal characteristics. In my view, a log page or official document page would be more appropriate for recording the entire letter. [[User:WBURKE1|WBURKE1]] ([[User talk:WBURKE1|talk]])
:Hi, WBURKE1. Thanks for reaching out to me! I am not ignoring your query; I am waiting on a response from the larger wiki team about how to approach this specific scenario with the article [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]]. As I explained to WINTERDAWN, generally speaking an article's Talk page is not an appropriate venue for archiving important information. Given the nature of this specific article as well as the duplicate information between it and the article [[Protectorate]], I am waiting on confirmation on how best to handle it before taking any further action. Unless another mod or GM weighs in before me, it will likely not be until next week that I can relay the final determination. I appreciate your patience and understanding with this. Thank you again for all of your contributions to the wiki. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:40, 9 February 2023 (CST)
::Hello again, WBURKE1. After consulting with the wiki team, I have adjusted [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]] to show the previous version of the text instead of the log. I have transcluded the identically presented information from [[Protectorate]] onto [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]]. I have updated text on the page to link to the log excerpt on [[Protectorate]] instead of referencing the article's talk page. I have also updated the article's Talk page to remove the previously saved log excerpt, to clarify what its purpose is, and to direct anyone viewing it to [[Protectorate#5123]], which is where the complete log excerpt is located. This should help ensure that the intent behind the original page, which is to succinctly state the terms of the Landing's Protectorate status, is maintained while still preserving information. Thank you again for your patience as I worked to resolve this. Please let me know if you have any further questions or concerns. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:13, 14 February 2023 (CST)
:::Thanks for this resolution and for all your hard work! [[User:WBURKE1|WBURKE1]] ([[User talk:WBURKE1|talk]]) 12:39, 14 February 2023 (CST)

== Images ==

They're different images, please look more closely.

== I don't know what I'm doing! ==

Hi, I tried to DM, failed! But found.. this space. And I have no idea if I'm doing it correctly. I READ WHAT YOU WROTE and thank you for what was pointed out I will work on figuring out how to fix it, it just might not be instantly remedied (not too long, just not a finger-snap of time, I'm still figuring stuff out!) -DASLOONIX

== 5mb File Size Down to 2mb ==

I'm noticing that the wiki now has a 2mb file size limit when it used to be 5mb. Is this an unintended result of the recent update or is it intentional? I'm trying to update my OSA maps but the 2mb limit is going to cause a huge loss in quality on them. Thoughts? If it's intentional, perhaps you or an admin could override the setting and post the two maps for me? [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 19:56, 7 January 2024 (CST)
:I do not know about any details related to maximum file size changes. I have relayed your question to the wiki team and will respond on your user talk page when I have more information. While you are welcome to reach out to me (or other mods) with questions like this, you can also ask them on the [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926 Discord forum's wiki thread], where you may receive a faster response. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:08, 9 January 2024 (CST)
::Just checking in :) [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 23:41, 15 January 2024 (CST)
:::Hi, again! I did inquire but still have no update. The wiki team is relaying your question to onside/IT alongside several other extensions and related requests. As a result, this will take much more time to answer than most questions due to it being outside the scope of what the wiki team can address. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:01, 16 January 2024 (CST)
::::Okay, thank you! In the meantime, is this something you or an admin have the power to override for the 2 map files? [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 18:28, 16 January 2024 (CST)
:::::No, this is outside the purview of what the wiki team is able to do. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:27, 17 January 2024 (CST)
::::::Okay, thank you! [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 21:24, 18 January 2024 (CST)

Tossing this here since it's the primary reason for my design choice. Regarding my 3 OSA maps... I'm worried that having thumbnails of the moderate/basic versions will "drown out" the link to the full version and give impression that the moderate version is the best quality version. Thoughts? At the end of the day I'm fine with your final decision. [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 12:14, 25 May 2025 (CDT)
:Hi there! I completely understand. I had updated all the wiki-hosted maps to thumbnails to be consistent across the board, which largely impacted your two maps. It would be better to maintain consistency wherever possible. I have added a bolded statement next to your external link to emphasize it is a much higher resolution version of the first (parchment-backed) map. Hopefully that will alleviate your concerns. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:26, 27 May 2025 (CDT)
::I agree about consistency! Your finding an alternate way to emphasize the full map gave me inspiration to play around with it more. Please let me know what you think about my changes. I basically uploaded a thumbnail image which is linking to the Google Drive image. I also re-wrote the alt text a bit to expand upon it. Lastly, if you feel it's worth it, can you delete this file? [[:File:Open Sea Adventures.jpg]] Unless the file size limitation changes, this file is unlikely to be used again. Thank you for all that you do! [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 15:24, 28 May 2025 (CDT)
:::I think your updates look great! Thanks for being so flexible with things. I realize that this new file size restriction does make things challenging when trying to share detailed map files. I have also deleted [[:File:Open Sea Adventures.jpg]] per your request. In the future, you can signal to me or any other moderator that you would like one of your files (or articles) deleted by inserting <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki> as part of the file description, plus add a statement why (or just repeating the request) on the file's talk/discussion tab. This will automatically assign it to [[:Category:Marked for Deletion]] so that when we patrol that category, we can easily identify the request. Thanks for all of your contributions! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:06, 29 May 2025 (CDT)

== Tatterclaws' Guides ==

Hello, I received your message, went through all four articles, and I believe fixed everything. The only thing I haven't fixed is moving the articles to Lich:. Can you please assist with that? Outside of that, everything should be updated. Thanks for your help.

== Mana-Infused Armor ==

Template:Itemtier - Optional template for single item pages with spots for Tier (or tree).

I removed the OPTIONAL templates per the Gswiki:Style_guide/Item_scripts page.

Please leave the detailed table, with concise information that doesn't require scrolling down forever to see the important information.
:I have responded on your user talk page. In the future, if you need to add a "signature" to a comment made to another user, you can do so with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>, which will automatically replace the four characters with your username and a date/timestamp. You can see what this looks like at the end of my comment here. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:20, 8 October 2024 (CDT)

==Voln for Dummies==
Hello! I have added a copyright blurb to the top of the page under the spoiler banner (lmk if it should go above it). I reached out to the content creator before publishing the page and I still have the email where they asked to please use any of their material. If you would like me to forward that email to you, please let me know! [[User:KVOTHETBL|KVOTHETBL]] ([[User talk:KVOTHETBL|talk]])
:Hi again, KVOTHETBL. Thank you for clarifying with your comment and a header that the [[Voln For Dummies]] guide article received permission from its authors to include it on the Gswiki. Unfortunately, you did not place the statement that permission was given from the authors in the correct place. As I said in my original communication, you need to clearly state that permission was given by the authors to include the guide on Gswiki on the Voln for Dummie's [[Talk:Voln For Dummies|talk page]]. This statement can be as simple as, "I have permission from the author to post this guide on the Gswiki. <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>" (with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> serving as your "signature" for the comment). Any additional remarks about permissions on the article itself are optional. I am updating the <nowiki>{{moddelete}}</nowiki> template with today's date, resetting the 7 day window. Please let me know if you need further clarification on how to do this. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:19, 10 December 2024 (CST)
::As a follow up, I noticed that you used the code from an older template on the top of your article for the optional statement. After consulting with the Wiki Team, I have updated that template to now be [[Template:Copyright-statement]], along with instructions on how to use it. If you would like to use it in addition to the needed statement on the Voln For Dummies talk page, you are welcome to do so. Thank you for bringing this older template to my attention so that it can be repurposed for future use. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:46, 10 December 2024 (CST)
:::Apologies! I misread your first communication and thought the notice could go in either place - I have updated the talk page. Please let me know if there are any further issues and thanks for your patience!
::::Thank you very much for taking those steps! Everything looks great on my end now. I have removed the mod-delete template and also updated the copyright-statement and player-guide templates for you. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:23, 11 December 2024 (CST)

==Valence Armament==

Hello Kebechet:

Your edit message is wholly incorrect. None of the information I added to the valence armament page is available on the individual pages. There are four different valence weapon scripts; only two are documented on the wiki. The Valence Weapon page describes only the blade script, while the Valence Weapon runestaff describes the runestaff script. The blunt script and ranged script are not documented anywhere on the wiki, which is why I put the information on that page for reference.

It would be very helpful for a Valence Weapon blunt and Valence weapon ranged script to be created using that information as reference, but I don't plan on doing it (I already made the runestaff page), and it can't be done if the information is removed from the wiki.

These weapons are very poorly documented on the wiki and have been very poorly documented for a long time. Having some information present is better than having no information, which is why I added the information you have removed. I advise you to restore it.
[[User:WBURKE1|WBURKE1]] ([[User talk:WBURKE1|talk]])
:Hi there, WBURKE1. I apologize for my mistake. You are absolutely right. I have gone ahead and created new articles for the additional [[Valence Weapon blunt|blunt]] and [[Valence Weapon ranged|ranged]] versions of the Valence set with the information that you had provided. I was able to verify a bit more about their properties in the saved posts and have included that with them. I also updated the other Valence gear articles accordingly. All new articles are missing verb messaging information, but at least the mechanical information is now present. Thank you very much for pointing that out! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:15, 7 August 2025 (CDT)
:Hello Kebechet:

Thank you! I appreciate you going the extra mile and adding the new pages with the information. I apologize for my intemperate response and I very much appreciate all the work you do to keep the wiki up to scratch. [[User:WBURKE1|WBURKE1]] ([[User talk:WBURKE1|talk]])

==Images==
Hi. I have several images on the wiki that I had uploaded when it was still Krakiipedia. When it got imported, GM Keios was apparently involved in moving images as part of the import, which caused them all to now be attributed to her as the uploader. In all cases, I am either the artist (5 images) or the person who commissioned the artist (1 image). I am re-uploaded them under a different filename so they are properly attributed to my account. Can you please delete the following duplicate images that GM Keios uploaded? I think these are all of them but it is possible that there might be more floating somewhere out there, in which case I'll request a second round of this. Thanks. [[User:HATESHI|HATESHI]] ([[User talk:HATESHI|talk]]) 12:04, 17 August 2025 (CDT)
*[[:File:Kiss of Betrayal by ek.jpg]] - My painting.
*[[:File:Griffin Sword Saga by ek.jpg]] - My painting.
*[[:File:Harith by ek.jpg]] - My illustration.
*[[:File:Night Haven by ek.jpg]] - My illustration.
*[[:File:Alisaire by ek.jpg]] - My sketch
*[[:File:Alisaire by C.Lijewski.jpg]] - My paid commission from an artist.

Talk:Peatwyn (prime)

2025-09-09T23:46:57Z

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==Article/Edits at Risk for Deletion==
This article is missing a statement that permission was granted by the character's player for another user to create or edit articles for their character.

For more information, see [[Gswiki:Policy]], specifically Policy #4. This information will need to be added within the timeframe stated on the article banner or it will be deleted or reverted to an earlier version. Do not remove the <nowiki>{{moddelete}}</nowiki> template from this article. Another moderator or I will remove that template after updates have been reviewed to ensure that they meet [[Gswiki:Policy]] requirements. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:20, 9 September 2025 (CDT)

[[User:LARSERBEAM|LARSERBEAM]] ([[User talk:LARSERBEAM|talk]]) 18:46, 9 September 2025 (CDT)
Peatwyn belongs to the LARSERBEAM account. Eladarmi helped me set up a wiki page for my character. I would prefer to have sole editing powers now that I'm figuring out how to use the wiki. If that is hard to manage because Eladarmi made the page, I would be fine for them to remain able to edit.

Peatwyn (prime)

2025-09-07T03:23:13Z

LARSERBEAM: long overdue updates

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|color=#FFD700
|name= Peatwyn
|image= [[File:Forestgnome2.jpg|thumb|centre|550px|Generated by Eladarmi's player using Openart.AI and modified by Zeminar]]
|caption= Peatwyn visiting home
|race= Forest Gnome
|culture=Rosengift
|class= [[Cleric]]
|profession= Self-Styled Hound of the Huntress
|religion= [[The Huntress]]
|affiliations= [[Order of Voln]] [[Gilded Discord]] [[Order of the Silver Gryphons]]
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|flaw= distractible, zealous
|strength= Optimism
|weakness= focus, fear, need-for-validation
|habits= 2 baths and six meals a day, pontificating verbosely
|hobbies= Shawm performance. Donkey Husbandry
|soft= His Mother, His Donkey Ignatius, His Friends
|likes= poetry, games of all kinds, archery, corner preaching
|dislikes= tyranny
|fears= danger to his loved ones, not being enough
|loyalties= His Friends and Companions
|friend=
|spouse=
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|town= Solhaven
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==''Peatwyn''==
★- ''"I'm blessed - doubly so"."'''

:You see Peatwyn the Master of the Order of Voln
:He appears to be a Forest Gnome of the Rosengift Bloodline.
:He is taller than average. He appears to be in the prime of life. He has beady sea green eyes and ruddy skin. He has chin length, unruly salt-and-pepper grey hair in a wild miasma of tangles. He has a squat and jowl-set, weathered little face, a flattened, snub nose and ripped nostrils, while a variety of hastily assembled false teeth fill his mouth and are riddled with uneven gaps and open spaces.

★-'''About Peatwyn:'''

''Coming Soon''

★-'''Associates'''

''Friends of Peatwyn''
:[[Eladarmi]], [[Lilanna]], [[Sylvanya]]

==-'''Back Story:'''==

Coming Soon...

==-'''Vignettes'''==

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[[File:Puckeredsurprise2.jpg|thumb|500px|'''"Peatwyn, by Rite and Rhyme"'''Peatwyn, Asrai, & Eladarmi in Icemule Trace. A perfect blend of their sacred paths and bardic souls—equal parts reverence and revelry - ''(Generated by Eladarmi's player Openart.ai)'']]
★-::“The Gilded Discord”

(Peatwyn’s Personal Account, scribbled half in ink and half in memory, somewhere between a hymn and a hazard)

:It began, as most divine misadventures do, with a snowflake.
:A quiet thing, that flake. Tame. Timid. Unaware it was the harbinger of holy chaos.
:I was already midway through a blistering sidewalk sermon—crossbow cocked, soul unlocked—when I saw him.

:[[Eladarmi]].

:Tower of gleaming gallantry, all storm-chiseled cheeks and polished poesy, stomping up the cobbles like the gods owed him change.
:And circling above his noble crown?
:A sprite. A spark. A shrieking giggle trapped in glitter, better known as Asrai.

:And me? Oh, I was in form!

:'''“With a crossbow cursed and a hymn on high,'''
:'''I’ll bless ya, bury ya, or make you cry!”'''

:The street lit like flint on frost. Cobbles woke up. Voices perked.
:Eladarmi’s hands went to his mandolin like he’d been born clutching it.
:And the next thing I know, we’re dueling—not in blood, but in ballad.
:He strummed like thunder in church. I piped like sin in a songbook.
:He was verse and valor. I was rhythm and rogue.

:And oh, the people loved it!
:Sylvanya howled.
:Lilanna wheezed.
:Asrai—well, she was spinning above us like a moon-drunk hummingbird leading a choir of bees.

:''Then... '''it''' happened.''

:In the lull between refrains, just as I’m taking a breath to deliver something profound about repentance through rhythm, he leans in.
:Eladarmi. The Shining. The Tower of Storm and Song.
:He leans in—toward the sprite, presumably—with intent on his face and snow melting in his hair.
:A kiss aimed for her brow, like some saintly benediction upon a mischievous familiar.

:And Asrai? The glittering goblin of fate?
:She dodged!
:Maybe intentionally. Maybe not. I rather think she simply wiggled in the way all fate does:
:in---conveniently.

:And Eladarmi?
:He kissed me!
:Dead center. Cheek. Warm. Surprised. Mid-word.

:I blinked.
:He stammered.
:The crowd exploded!
:'''“I—I was aiming for the sprite!”''' he pleaded, crimson creeping up his ears.
:I smirked, because really, what else does one do in such a moment?

:'''“The sprite is deft and daft,”''' I said, invoking divine dignity, '''“in its penance for puckered tomfoolery.”'''

:The sprite, of course, was now airborne with laughter, looking ready to combust into sparkles and shame.
:But I wasn’t done!
:Not even close!
:and while Eladarmi struggled to compose himself, adjusting his armor like modesty was leaking out of the seams,

:I leaned in again—soft as sin,
:sweet as sacrament—and kissed him back.
:He yelped. Audibly!
:Like someone had snuck a banshee under his breastplate. Hahaha

:'''“That was not an invitation!”''' he bellowed.
:'''“I was fey-wrought,”''' I replied innocently,
:because let’s be honest, that excuse works for everything.

:The sprite shrieked in delight.
:Lilanna choked.
:A squirrel died, probably.

:I blessed my donkey, made my farewell grand—
:'''“I RIDE FOR THE RIFT! BEFORE TOMORROW’S MEMORY REMEMBERS ME WRONGLY!”''

:—and departed with the flair of a gnome who had just rewritten half a bard’s romantic subplot.
:And as I trotted out of town, my shawm slung across my back, heart full of mischief and melody, I thought:

:We are a band now, aren’t we?
:He with his hymns,
:me with my heresies.
:The sprite with her chaos.
:The others, laughing behind us like footnotes of fate.

:We’ve no proper name yet. Not really.
:The Gilded Discord was floated. So was Peatwyn and the Accidental Kiss. I admit a fondness for both.
:But whatever we call ourselves, the world will remember us.
:As snow that sings.
:As songs that spark.
:As laughter between verses and kisses misplaced.

:Tonight, I ride for quiet places. But I carry with me a harmony—half sacred, half silly.
:And in the silent halls of Voln, if a tune echoes down the stone—
:'''“With a crossbow cursed and a hymn on high…”'''
:—they’ll know we passed through.
:And they'll either weep or waltz.
:Maybe both.

★-::“The Gilded Discord”::★

File:Forestgnome2.jpg

2025-09-07T02:59:33Z

LARSERBEAM: LARSERBEAM uploaded a new version of File:Forestgnome2.jpg

== Summary ==
Created by Eladarmi's character using Openart.ai

[[Category:AI artwork]]

Peatwyn (prime)

2025-09-07T02:23:55Z

LARSERBEAM:

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|caption= ?
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|culture=
|class= [[Cleric]]
|profession= Lyricist - Poet
|religion= [[Charl]]
|affiliations= [[Order of Voln]] [[Gilded Discord]]
|word= ?
|disposition= ?
|demeanor= Sweety
|ptrait= "Stalky Stature"
|strait= Remarkable Resilience
|flaw= Spontaneous
|strength= Jovial
|weakness= No teeths
|habits= Acts of Kindness, Morning Meditations Studying Voln Scriptures
|hobbies= Playing his Sharma
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|likes= Aiding Others
|dislikes= Needless Violence
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==''Peatwyn''==
★- ''"I'm blessed - doubly so"."'''

:You see Peatwyn the Master of the Order of Voln
:He appears to be a Forest Gnome of the Rosengift Bloodline.
:He is taller than average. He appears to be in the prime of life. He has beady sea green eyes and ruddy skin. He has chin length, unruly salt-and-pepper grey hair in a wild miasma of tangles. He has a squat and jowl-set, weathered little face, a flattened, snub nose and ripped nostrils, while a variety of hastily assembled false teeth fill his mouth and are riddled with uneven gaps and open spaces.

★-'''About Peatwyn:'''

''Coming Soon''

★-'''Associates'''

''Friends of Peatwyn''
:[[Eladarmi]], [[Lilanna]], [[Sylvanya]]

==-'''Back Story:'''==

Coming Soon...

==-'''Vignettes'''==

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[[File:Puckeredsurprise2.jpg|thumb|500px|'''"Peatwyn, by Rite and Rhyme"'''Peatwyn, Asrai, & Eladarmi in Icemule Trace. A perfect blend of their sacred paths and bardic souls—equal parts reverence and revelry - ''(Generated by Eladarmi's player Openart.ai)'']]
★-::“The Gilded Discord”

(Peatwyn’s Personal Account, scribbled half in ink and half in memory, somewhere between a hymn and a hazard)

:It began, as most divine misadventures do, with a snowflake.
:A quiet thing, that flake. Tame. Timid. Unaware it was the harbinger of holy chaos.
:I was already midway through a blistering sidewalk sermon—crossbow cocked, soul unlocked—when I saw him.

:[[Eladarmi]].

:Tower of gleaming gallantry, all storm-chiseled cheeks and polished poesy, stomping up the cobbles like the gods owed him change.
:And circling above his noble crown?
:A sprite. A spark. A shrieking giggle trapped in glitter, better known as Asrai.

:And me? Oh, I was in form!

:'''“With a crossbow cursed and a hymn on high,'''
:'''I’ll bless ya, bury ya, or make you cry!”'''

:The street lit like flint on frost. Cobbles woke up. Voices perked.
:Eladarmi’s hands went to his mandolin like he’d been born clutching it.
:And the next thing I know, we’re dueling—not in blood, but in ballad.
:He strummed like thunder in church. I piped like sin in a songbook.
:He was verse and valor. I was rhythm and rogue.

:And oh, the people loved it!
:Sylvanya howled.
:Lilanna wheezed.
:Asrai—well, she was spinning above us like a moon-drunk hummingbird leading a choir of bees.

:''Then... '''it''' happened.''

:In the lull between refrains, just as I’m taking a breath to deliver something profound about repentance through rhythm, he leans in.
:Eladarmi. The Shining. The Tower of Storm and Song.
:He leans in—toward the sprite, presumably—with intent on his face and snow melting in his hair.
:A kiss aimed for her brow, like some saintly benediction upon a mischievous familiar.

:And Asrai? The glittering goblin of fate?
:She dodged!
:Maybe intentionally. Maybe not. I rather think she simply wiggled in the way all fate does:
:in---conveniently.

:And Eladarmi?
:He kissed me!
:Dead center. Cheek. Warm. Surprised. Mid-word.

:I blinked.
:He stammered.
:The crowd exploded!
:'''“I—I was aiming for the sprite!”''' he pleaded, crimson creeping up his ears.
:I smirked, because really, what else does one do in such a moment?

:'''“The sprite is deft and daft,”''' I said, invoking divine dignity, '''“in its penance for puckered tomfoolery.”'''

:The sprite, of course, was now airborne with laughter, looking ready to combust into sparkles and shame.
:But I wasn’t done!
:Not even close!
:and while Eladarmi struggled to compose himself, adjusting his armor like modesty was leaking out of the seams,

:I leaned in again—soft as sin,
:sweet as sacrament—and kissed him back.
:He yelped. Audibly!
:Like someone had snuck a banshee under his breastplate. Hahaha

:'''“That was not an invitation!”''' he bellowed.
:'''“I was fey-wrought,”''' I replied innocently,
:because let’s be honest, that excuse works for everything.

:The sprite shrieked in delight.
:Lilanna choked.
:A squirrel died, probably.

:I blessed my donkey, made my farewell grand—
:'''“I RIDE FOR THE RIFT! BEFORE TOMORROW’S MEMORY REMEMBERS ME WRONGLY!”''

:—and departed with the flair of a gnome who had just rewritten half a bard’s romantic subplot.
:And as I trotted out of town, my shawm slung across my back, heart full of mischief and melody, I thought:

:We are a band now, aren’t we?
:He with his hymns,
:me with my heresies.
:The sprite with her chaos.
:The others, laughing behind us like footnotes of fate.

:We’ve no proper name yet. Not really.
:The Gilded Discord was floated. So was Peatwyn and the Accidental Kiss. I admit a fondness for both.
:But whatever we call ourselves, the world will remember us.
:As snow that sings.
:As songs that spark.
:As laughter between verses and kisses misplaced.

:Tonight, I ride for quiet places. But I carry with me a harmony—half sacred, half silly.
:And in the silent halls of Voln, if a tune echoes down the stone—
:'''“With a crossbow cursed and a hymn on high…”'''
:—they’ll know we passed through.
:And they'll either weep or waltz.
:Maybe both.

★-::“The Gilded Discord”::★