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Aurach's Two Weapon Combat Guide: A Ranger's Perspective

2017-08-09T16:38:22Z

SHEN1: /* Two Weapon Combat Ranger Core Training */

[[Image:Twcranger.jpg|thumb|Aurach]]

==The Two Weapon Combat Ranger==

The whirling scimitars of Drizzsdt Do'Urden, The 'mountain charge to rescue using hatchet and knife' in Last of the Mohicans, Lancelot's dual short swords in King Arthur, all bring the vision of our champion, the Two Weapon Combat Ranger. A challenging training path, with strong reliance on attack and speed.

Very few rangers take this path. It is uphill both ways, in the snow, at night, crossing a frigid streams, without boots.

Why are you still reading?

Let me say this one more time. It is very costly in training points, it delays most other skills/spells and you have little bolt defense.

'''''You may find training the TWC combat skill and adjusting to this style at cap MUCH easier.'''''

If you are still reading you are probably hard headed enough.

However, other guides have said there is really no 'bad' way to train a ranger. Two weapon combat from a rangers birth is probably really close however.

Good Luck

==Why Two Weapons?==

Most ambushing rangers and archers can kill with one well placed strike. So too can the two weapon ambushing ranger, but the world has creatures that cannot be critical struck and only massive raw damage will suffice.

Enter our ranger hero, weapon in each hand, spell at the ready. 'Guts, 'Glory, 'Aspects'

For me the style has always been about using your magics and blades together. This is really not a stand in the open and get beat on type of style. You can do that however. I prefer the use of good timing, and a rather large variety of spells to maneuver your opponents into situations favorable to you.

Your greatest strength is your variety of magics, combat maneuver skills, and weapons combined.

From the skills and stats a Ranger can be a very good two weapon user. Great spirit warding, good variety of spells, low costs to train a variety of skills, some of the best attack spells for a semi, great defensive spells all make for a really versatile and easily adjustable character.

While not recommended to try from early on, this style when combined with ambushing and Multi Opponent Combat is absolutely devastating.

==Ranger Spells==
The ranger spell list provides some unique benefits for TWC rangers, both directly and indirectly.

[[Phoen's Strength (606)]] gives a phantom increase of +10 to [[Strength]] bonus. Strength is incredibly important to keep RT down (encumbrance really affects the left hand weapon).

[[Mobility (618)]] offers a large bonus to Dodge, a TWC rangers primary defense

[[Camouflage (608)]] a +30 AS bonus from camouflage for multiple attacks. Yes both weapons get the bonus from a ranger leaping to ambush or 'plain attacking' from a camo 608 position, so this can be used by non ambusher for the boost if your quick, so you at least get the +30 AS bonus.

[[Wall of Thorns (640)]] of great assistance to a TWC ranger, the best defense is having the trees block for you and not getting hit at all.

[[Assume Aspect (650)]] is custom made for a TWC ranger, allowing you to tweak your form to meet the current threat or boost a weakness. (alternating between rat and wolf for example maintains a boost to your agi/dex)

All Rangers also benefit from a plethora of set up spells that can complement any weapon style, such as [[Sounds (607)]], [[Tangle Weed (610)]] , [[Call Swarm (615)]] and [[Sun Burst (609)]] (note the effects vs undead)

TWC rangers will find great use in the [[Minor Spiritual]] spell circle, especially [[Spirit Barrier (102)]] and [[106|Spirit fog (106)]], to provide added defenses. Note that 102 gives a penalty to [[Attack strength|AS]] so you could [[STOP (verb)|STOP 102]], which removes the spell so you can attack without the penalty making for a creative low mana Shield/stance dance option, also breeze will eliminate [[Spirit Fog (106)]], however that is mana intensive.

==Two Weapon Combat Training==
The introduction of [[Fixskills]] and [[Fixstats]], will allows new rangers to tweak their efforts with great ease. I suggest maintain your core training, finesse skills/Stats as starting Stats have increased and allow you to gain more your training points while boosting overall stat totals. (this is an entire topic all its own) (wordsmith this it isn't sounding right)

===Two Weapon Combat Ranger Core Training===

This is your base training that every two weapon ranger should have each level.

*2x (6/4) [[Combat Maneuvers]]: When points are too tight, you can skip some here if you have to, try to keep singling.
*2x (9/6) [[Two Weapon Combat]]:
*2x (9/3) [[Edged Weapons]] (Blunt weapons can be used, slightly increased training cost, do not over look this if it appeals to your style of ranger)
*1x (4/0) [[Physical Fitness]]: (no shield, you will be getting hit, you need this)
*1x (7/5) [[Dodge]]
*1x (0/5) [[Harness Power]]
*1x (0/17) [[Spell Research]]: (May have to skip spells a few levels until training points work out)
*1x (0/3) [[Perception]]: take higher at cap (if you can single, go for it, I think you will be strapped for points: You can skip this when you need to)
*1x Armor (5/0) Can skip if you have to for points, but you will need armor training and good armor with this build (Aurach's goal was 110 ranks for a chain hauberk and then 170 ranks post cap to reduce maneuver penalties in hauberk)
Total of (40/43)

After wearing hauberk for a decade. I have switched to augmented chain. I find the spell failure a little more manageable and the maneuver is easier to train off post cap. I also find I get hit a lot less, so losing the chain coverage on the head is easier to handle.

===TWC Ranger Discreet Training===

These values are plateaus you should strive to reach at some point in your career.

*5 ranks of [[Multi Opponent Combat]] (10/4) as soon as you can fit it in. (30 ranks allows 2 strikes per weapon on a target, 55 ranks allows you to focus mstrike 3 times per weapon on a single target) Reduces effects of being outnumbered.
*50 Ranks in [[Climbing]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make climb checks prior to that.
*50 Ranks in [[Swimming]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make swim checks prior to that.
*[[Spiritual Lore, Blessings]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after Getting 650
*[[Spiritual Lore, Summoning]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after getting 650
(your 1 rank of these two lores gives slight increases in many of your spells, low training point cost boosts, 5 ranks is Blessing lore is very interesting also as it will allow your 117 spirit strike to have a 3% chance to affect two strikes for you being both weapons)

===Spell Research===

My preferred training order: for a two weapon build
601, 101-103, 602-618, 104-107, 619-650, 108-130, Ranger ranks for life 'Aurach Moonshadew'

(other rangers prefer minor spirit 140 and ranger 162 which provides the best CS)

I prefer to get hues, then 101-103, I like having the low mana shield of 102 with this type of character.
After that Mobility is the goal. Then getting deep blues. Then I would head for Aspect.
This is simply my preference looking back on my build.

===Optional Additional Training===

A list of the most common skills to use your additional training points on.

*1x [[Ambush]] when you can fit the ranks in, 1x at cap (more as you feel the need) (I am singled at cap currently and do very well ambushing)
*2x [[Stalking and Hiding]] – If you plan to ambush at cap you will want to 2x this, post cap
*1x-2x [[Survival]] – This will aid skinning, foraging, and overland movement
*1x-2x [[First Aid]] – This will aid in skinning and reduce herb eating RT
*Spiritual Lore: Blessing and Summoning ranger preference, I think it should be gained after ranger spells are maxed, however 5 ranks of blessing lore will allow a 3% chance to have MS117 affect two strikes low chance but is nice when it happens)
*[[Magic Item Use]] I regret not having this 1x earlier. I did it post cap and love it.
*[[Arcane Symbols]] I regret not having this 1x earlier (immediately after MIU).
*15 ranks [[Spiritual Mana Control]] as soon as you learn it is fun to share and play well with others. 15 ranks is enough to share with most Older Spirit mana using folks (25 ranks post cap if you like).

===Post Cap Goals===

*2x Physical Fitness (immediately at cap or earlier)
*2x [[Combat Maneuvers]] (At cap or earlier)
*2x [[Dodge]] (after maxing ranger spells, maybe)
*55 ranks [[Multi-Opponent Combat]] for 6 strikes focused on a single target
[[Thrown Weapons]] may be a very interesting post cap goal, since you will throw both weapons and you already have the required support skill ([[TWC]], [[Perception]], Combat Maneuvers)

[[Spiritual Lore, Blessings|Blessing Lore]]

[[Spiritual Lore, Summoning|Summoning Lore]]

'''[[Combat Maneuver]] skills (mine at cap at moment) Post Cap goals:'''
{|{{prettytable}}
|-style = "background:#DDD; color: blue"
!Skill
!Mnemonic
!Ranks
|-align=center
|[[Cunning Defense]]
|cdefense
|5
|-align=center
|[[Combat Movement]]
|cmovement
|5
|-align=center
|[[Hamstring]]
|hamstring
|5
|-align=center
|[[Disarm Weapon]]
|disarm
|5
|-align=center
|[[Shadow Mastery]]
|smastery
|5
|-align=center
|[[Sweep]]
|sweep
|1
|-align=center
|[[Garrote]]
|garrote
|1
|-align=center
|[[Subdual Strike]]
|sstrike
|1
|}

*TWC rangers will find these useful (order of preference for me was Cdefense, Cmovement, Hamstring, Disarm, Smastery)

This is simply how Aurach trained Combat maneuver skills at cap. Since then Aurach has changed his cmans some. More focused on defenses. Cmove2, focus 4, smastery 5, disarm 5, side by side 5, cunning defense 5.

==Race==
I would hope race depends largely on the vision you have for your ranger. That being said, Agility and Dexterity are very important to reduce RT. A race that has strength and can manage encumbrance would also be wise.

==What Armor to use?==
The best armor you can afford.

My advice is Double leather, then Brigandine, then hauberk, for Full body coverage. I like the full body coverage as it allows me to wear arm/leg greaves, helm, and aventails, if I choose with no added penalties. I kept my eye out for [[enhancive]]s on the added armor pieces. [[Padding]] crit or damage is always a good choice if you can afford it.

My cap armor is an imflass chain hauberk, with added helm, arm and leg greaves and aventail, it has 11% hinderance. I find the failure acceptable to my style. Some will not. A paladin for fluidity would be fantastic. I also kept training armor to reduce maneuver penalties. Armor skill is also a secondary skill for redux so serves some double duty.

==Keeping Your RT Manageable==

You will find the links below for Agi/Dex and Two weapon combat RT. The RT is probably the most confusing part of using two weapons. I say this because from time to time, it does not match the documents. Weapon weights, base speed, Agi/Dex, encumbrance, and Character strength all affect your RT. (Assume Aspect, Phoen's Strength, Enhancive items, and Wizard strength will be the greatest help here)

To really enjoy and work the two weapon using ranger. You will need to test various combinations of weapons. Early on you might try short sword and gauche for the gauches added DS when used in off hand. Later on perhaps a long sword/short sword when you want to hit harder and keep RT manageable. Too many weapons to list.

==A Rangers Weapon Sets==
There are many weapons to try. Your ranger will have two or possibly three different sets as he heads out on patrol at certain points in their career. This is where you get to show your rangers individuality.

My carry weapons at cap are: longsword/shortsword set, two hand axe set, and a dagger set. This is not based on min maxing, it is more a collection of style, effectiveness vs heavy armor, and a couple speed weapons for when encumbered by heaps of treasure and skins.

Do not forget to look at blunt weapons if that is more appealing to you.

I can say, that this will be fun. Try all kinds of cheap sets of weapons to get what feels right.
This will evolve as Stats increase, better enhancive items are acquired, and weapon choice vs armor types are considered

So, what feels right now, may change at various training stages and against different types of armor types (critters).

Feras weapons, Flares, Ensorcellment, Weighting (crit and damage) can all boost your effectiveness. You hit twice as often and good combinations of the previous can add great advantages to your ranger.

*[[Edged_Weapons]]
*[[Roundtime]]
*[[Two Weapon Combat]]

==TWC Defenses==

'All about that AS that AS , no defense, it's all about the AS'

Ok, so seriously, defenses as a two weapon using ranger. As usual we have some good options available.

'''[[Two_Weapon_Combat|TWC Parry DS:]]'''
I cannot explain it better than is listed.

'''Stances:''' No really there are stances other than OFF and DEF. A good understanding of how you can adjust your stance to maintain adequate defense for the current threat and still provide you with enough offensive punch to down your enemies will really help. Your ranger spells have a great variety to help you to do this.

'''TWC Out Right [[Parry]]:''' each weapon will provide a 5% chance to parry incoming melee attacks against like level foes in stance offensive

[[Assume Aspect]]:Mantis aids nicely with both weapons chances to parry.

'''Bolt Defenses''': Two Weapon Combat style does not offer good bolt defenses (no shield). So, as a ranger we adapt. The [[Ranger Circle|ranger spell list]] and [[100s|minor spell list]] will provide a great amount of assistance to our Bolt DS. I would like to focus on those that you can use to finesse things and make your twc ranger even more protected. Minor Spirit Air wall 102, and Fog 106 can be used as well as seeking areas when hunting that provide natural defenses. Your wall of thorns blocking incoming attacks,(later boosted by Aspect Porcupine), and Evasion/dodge (boosted by serpent) however will all aid you greatly. ''Assume Aspect Mantis with a runestaff will parry bolts/arrows as well. (test it)'' Rotating aspects when mana is not the main issue.

'''NOTE: The following [[Runestaff]] comments are for much later down the line but am tossing it in here for reference''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying Bolts and arrows. Test it out if you find the need for more bolt defenses beyond what you get from Wall of Thorns or out right evasion.

'''Evade''' Can be boosted by your Aspect Serpent, I saw a really significant increase here from 21% to 40%.

'''[[Redux]]'''

==Runestaff test==
'''NOTE''': Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This Would require runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider.

An 800 bolt attack repetition test with the mage Drafix's assistance has shown my ranger's wall of thorns stopped about 21% of incoming bolt attacks. 24% were then outright evaded (wearing my hauberk or not wearing it was the same due to armor over training), (this increased to 40% evaded with Aspect Serpent running) and then after that 7% were blocked by the runestaff. Giving an over all total of 51%+ to 67% stopped/evaded/parried.

Also, the % was based on bolt spell by like level caster. I believe the Ball spells and Arrows the % to parry are different. And did not do a deep test of those at this time.

The rune staff below is +8 deringo. (a staff with [[411|eblade]] on it would cost next to nothing) (test for this posting was 8 of 20 and 10 of 27) using mantis against ball spells

''Sepher gestures at you''.

Sepher hurls a roaring ball of fire at you!

You deflect the bolt with your runestaff!

''Sepher nocks a dull black wooden arrow fletched with white-spotted falcon feathers in his sephwir long bow.'' (10/35 against arrows)

Sepher fires a dull black arrow at you!

You deflect the arrow with your runestaff!

The arrow disappears into the local environs.

Now I certainly do not expect everyone using TWC to invest in runestaves. But please remember that was 7% of the overall total attacks, not the ones that got past wall of thorns or were evaded outright) the runestaff seemed to parry about 11% of the bolts it had a chance to parry. So, if bolts become an issue, it is something to consider since you already have magical training as a semi and have a Bolt Weakness using Two weapons. You could also pick up a shield and train it post cap. But this utilizes skills you have most likely already trained in.

==Society==

(Anyone want to toss in pro-cons please do so)

Aurach is a member of Voln. Two Weapons against the many non-critable undead has worked rather well.

==Recap==
So, this is my thoughts on two weapon using rangers. I will be adding more as thoughts come to me. I find the capped version to be where my character really came into his own. There seemed to be a non-stop struggle to survive when I was hunting early on. But so much has changed since then. I think a two weapon combat ranger at this point would have great strengths right from the beginning.

''Aurach Moonshadew the Gallant, 'two-blader' of Auld Ta'Faendryl''

I would like to thank all the friends that I have encountered playing this game over the years. The list is truly too numerous to list.
Without folks aiding this build over the years it would never have been possible.

John mind behind

The dual flaring 117 spirit guidance below is a nice boost from lore training.

<pre{{log2}}>
You leap from hiding to attack!
You swing an ancient elven waraxe at a greater construct!
AS: +702 vs DS: +281 with AvD: +23 + d100 roll: +15 = +459
... and hit for 105 points of damage!
Left leg ripped from socket at the knee!
A deep basso rumbling can be heard as a greater construct falls over and grasps its mangled left leg!
The shimmering gold aura surrounding the greater construct flickers momentarily.

'''The invisible force draws back to guide you once more.'''
You swing a matte black kelyn hatchet at a greater construct!
AS: +669 vs DS: +136 with AvD: +23 + d100 roll: +2 = +558
... and hit for 156 points of damage!
Incredible smash to what used to be a stomach!
The shimmering gold aura surrounding the greater construct fades and goes out.
'''The guiding force leaves you.'''
Roundtime: 6 sec.
</pre>

==See Also==
*[[Ranger]] (main article)
*[[A beginner's guide to playing a ranger]]
*[[Evade]]
*[[Parry]]
*[http://www.play.net/gs4/info/skills.asp#twoweaponcombat Two Weapon Combat on Play.net]
*[http://www.play.net/gs4/info/professions/rangers.asp Ranger profession on Play.net]

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Aurach's Two Weapon Combat Guide: A Ranger's Perspective

2017-08-09T16:33:56Z

SHEN1: /* Post Cap Goals */

[[Image:Twcranger.jpg|thumb|Aurach]]

==The Two Weapon Combat Ranger==

The whirling scimitars of Drizzsdt Do'Urden, The 'mountain charge to rescue using hatchet and knife' in Last of the Mohicans, Lancelot's dual short swords in King Arthur, all bring the vision of our champion, the Two Weapon Combat Ranger. A challenging training path, with strong reliance on attack and speed.

Very few rangers take this path. It is uphill both ways, in the snow, at night, crossing a frigid streams, without boots.

Why are you still reading?

Let me say this one more time. It is very costly in training points, it delays most other skills/spells and you have little bolt defense.

'''''You may find training the TWC combat skill and adjusting to this style at cap MUCH easier.'''''

If you are still reading you are probably hard headed enough.

However, other guides have said there is really no 'bad' way to train a ranger. Two weapon combat from a rangers birth is probably really close however.

Good Luck

==Why Two Weapons?==

Most ambushing rangers and archers can kill with one well placed strike. So too can the two weapon ambushing ranger, but the world has creatures that cannot be critical struck and only massive raw damage will suffice.

Enter our ranger hero, weapon in each hand, spell at the ready. 'Guts, 'Glory, 'Aspects'

For me the style has always been about using your magics and blades together. This is really not a stand in the open and get beat on type of style. You can do that however. I prefer the use of good timing, and a rather large variety of spells to maneuver your opponents into situations favorable to you.

Your greatest strength is your variety of magics, combat maneuver skills, and weapons combined.

From the skills and stats a Ranger can be a very good two weapon user. Great spirit warding, good variety of spells, low costs to train a variety of skills, some of the best attack spells for a semi, great defensive spells all make for a really versatile and easily adjustable character.

While not recommended to try from early on, this style when combined with ambushing and Multi Opponent Combat is absolutely devastating.

==Ranger Spells==
The ranger spell list provides some unique benefits for TWC rangers, both directly and indirectly.

[[Phoen's Strength (606)]] gives a phantom increase of +10 to [[Strength]] bonus. Strength is incredibly important to keep RT down (encumbrance really affects the left hand weapon).

[[Mobility (618)]] offers a large bonus to Dodge, a TWC rangers primary defense

[[Camouflage (608)]] a +30 AS bonus from camouflage for multiple attacks. Yes both weapons get the bonus from a ranger leaping to ambush or 'plain attacking' from a camo 608 position, so this can be used by non ambusher for the boost if your quick, so you at least get the +30 AS bonus.

[[Wall of Thorns (640)]] of great assistance to a TWC ranger, the best defense is having the trees block for you and not getting hit at all.

[[Assume Aspect (650)]] is custom made for a TWC ranger, allowing you to tweak your form to meet the current threat or boost a weakness. (alternating between rat and wolf for example maintains a boost to your agi/dex)

All Rangers also benefit from a plethora of set up spells that can complement any weapon style, such as [[Sounds (607)]], [[Tangle Weed (610)]] , [[Call Swarm (615)]] and [[Sun Burst (609)]] (note the effects vs undead)

TWC rangers will find great use in the [[Minor Spiritual]] spell circle, especially [[Spirit Barrier (102)]] and [[106|Spirit fog (106)]], to provide added defenses. Note that 102 gives a penalty to [[Attack strength|AS]] so you could [[STOP (verb)|STOP 102]], which removes the spell so you can attack without the penalty making for a creative low mana Shield/stance dance option, also breeze will eliminate [[Spirit Fog (106)]], however that is mana intensive.

==Two Weapon Combat Training==
The introduction of [[Fixskills]] and [[Fixstats]], will allows new rangers to tweak their efforts with great ease. I suggest maintain your core training, finesse skills/Stats as starting Stats have increased and allow you to gain more your training points while boosting overall stat totals. (this is an entire topic all its own) (wordsmith this it isn't sounding right)

===Two Weapon Combat Ranger Core Training===

This is your base training that every two weapon ranger should have each level.

*2x (6/4) [[Combat Maneuvers]]: When points are too tight, you can skip some here if you have to, try to keep singling.
*2x (9/6) [[Two Weapon Combat]]:
*2x (9/3) [[Edged Weapons]] (Blunt weapons can be used, slightly increased training cost, do not over look this if it appeals to your style of ranger)
*1x (4/0) [[Physical Fitness]]: (no shield, you will be getting hit, you need this)
*1x (7/5) [[Dodge]]
*1x (0/5) [[Harness Power]]
*1x (0/17) [[Spell Research]]: (May have to skip spells a few levels until training points work out)
*1x (0/3) [[Perception]]: take higher at cap (if you can single, go for it, I think you will be strapped for points: You can skip this when you need to)
*1x Armor (5/0) Can skip if you have to for points, but you will need armor training and good armor with this build (Aurach's goal was 110 ranks for a chain hauberk and then 170 ranks post cap to reduce maneuver penalties in hauberk)
Total of (40/43)

===TWC Ranger Discreet Training===

These values are plateaus you should strive to reach at some point in your career.

*5 ranks of [[Multi Opponent Combat]] (10/4) as soon as you can fit it in. (30 ranks allows 2 strikes per weapon on a target, 55 ranks allows you to focus mstrike 3 times per weapon on a single target) Reduces effects of being outnumbered.
*50 Ranks in [[Climbing]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make climb checks prior to that.
*50 Ranks in [[Swimming]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make swim checks prior to that.
*[[Spiritual Lore, Blessings]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after Getting 650
*[[Spiritual Lore, Summoning]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after getting 650
(your 1 rank of these two lores gives slight increases in many of your spells, low training point cost boosts, 5 ranks is Blessing lore is very interesting also as it will allow your 117 spirit strike to have a 3% chance to affect two strikes for you being both weapons)

===Spell Research===

My preferred training order: for a two weapon build
601, 101-103, 602-618, 104-107, 619-650, 108-130, Ranger ranks for life 'Aurach Moonshadew'

(other rangers prefer minor spirit 140 and ranger 162 which provides the best CS)

I prefer to get hues, then 101-103, I like having the low mana shield of 102 with this type of character.
After that Mobility is the goal. Then getting deep blues. Then I would head for Aspect.
This is simply my preference looking back on my build.

===Optional Additional Training===

A list of the most common skills to use your additional training points on.

*1x [[Ambush]] when you can fit the ranks in, 1x at cap (more as you feel the need) (I am singled at cap currently and do very well ambushing)
*2x [[Stalking and Hiding]] – If you plan to ambush at cap you will want to 2x this, post cap
*1x-2x [[Survival]] – This will aid skinning, foraging, and overland movement
*1x-2x [[First Aid]] – This will aid in skinning and reduce herb eating RT
*Spiritual Lore: Blessing and Summoning ranger preference, I think it should be gained after ranger spells are maxed, however 5 ranks of blessing lore will allow a 3% chance to have MS117 affect two strikes low chance but is nice when it happens)
*[[Magic Item Use]] I regret not having this 1x earlier. I did it post cap and love it.
*[[Arcane Symbols]] I regret not having this 1x earlier (immediately after MIU).
*15 ranks [[Spiritual Mana Control]] as soon as you learn it is fun to share and play well with others. 15 ranks is enough to share with most Older Spirit mana using folks (25 ranks post cap if you like).

===Post Cap Goals===

*2x Physical Fitness (immediately at cap or earlier)
*2x [[Combat Maneuvers]] (At cap or earlier)
*2x [[Dodge]] (after maxing ranger spells, maybe)
*55 ranks [[Multi-Opponent Combat]] for 6 strikes focused on a single target
[[Thrown Weapons]] may be a very interesting post cap goal, since you will throw both weapons and you already have the required support skill ([[TWC]], [[Perception]], Combat Maneuvers)

[[Spiritual Lore, Blessings|Blessing Lore]]

[[Spiritual Lore, Summoning|Summoning Lore]]

'''[[Combat Maneuver]] skills (mine at cap at moment) Post Cap goals:'''
{|{{prettytable}}
|-style = "background:#DDD; color: blue"
!Skill
!Mnemonic
!Ranks
|-align=center
|[[Cunning Defense]]
|cdefense
|5
|-align=center
|[[Combat Movement]]
|cmovement
|5
|-align=center
|[[Hamstring]]
|hamstring
|5
|-align=center
|[[Disarm Weapon]]
|disarm
|5
|-align=center
|[[Shadow Mastery]]
|smastery
|5
|-align=center
|[[Sweep]]
|sweep
|1
|-align=center
|[[Garrote]]
|garrote
|1
|-align=center
|[[Subdual Strike]]
|sstrike
|1
|}

*TWC rangers will find these useful (order of preference for me was Cdefense, Cmovement, Hamstring, Disarm, Smastery)

This is simply how Aurach trained Combat maneuver skills at cap. Since then Aurach has changed his cmans some. More focused on defenses. Cmove2, focus 4, smastery 5, disarm 5, side by side 5, cunning defense 5.

==Race==
I would hope race depends largely on the vision you have for your ranger. That being said, Agility and Dexterity are very important to reduce RT. A race that has strength and can manage encumbrance would also be wise.

==What Armor to use?==
The best armor you can afford.

My advice is Double leather, then Brigandine, then hauberk, for Full body coverage. I like the full body coverage as it allows me to wear arm/leg greaves, helm, and aventails, if I choose with no added penalties. I kept my eye out for [[enhancive]]s on the added armor pieces. [[Padding]] crit or damage is always a good choice if you can afford it.

My cap armor is an imflass chain hauberk, with added helm, arm and leg greaves and aventail, it has 11% hinderance. I find the failure acceptable to my style. Some will not. A paladin for fluidity would be fantastic. I also kept training armor to reduce maneuver penalties. Armor skill is also a secondary skill for redux so serves some double duty.

==Keeping Your RT Manageable==

You will find the links below for Agi/Dex and Two weapon combat RT. The RT is probably the most confusing part of using two weapons. I say this because from time to time, it does not match the documents. Weapon weights, base speed, Agi/Dex, encumbrance, and Character strength all affect your RT. (Assume Aspect, Phoen's Strength, Enhancive items, and Wizard strength will be the greatest help here)

To really enjoy and work the two weapon using ranger. You will need to test various combinations of weapons. Early on you might try short sword and gauche for the gauches added DS when used in off hand. Later on perhaps a long sword/short sword when you want to hit harder and keep RT manageable. Too many weapons to list.

==A Rangers Weapon Sets==
There are many weapons to try. Your ranger will have two or possibly three different sets as he heads out on patrol at certain points in their career. This is where you get to show your rangers individuality.

My carry weapons at cap are: longsword/shortsword set, two hand axe set, and a dagger set. This is not based on min maxing, it is more a collection of style, effectiveness vs heavy armor, and a couple speed weapons for when encumbered by heaps of treasure and skins.

Do not forget to look at blunt weapons if that is more appealing to you.

I can say, that this will be fun. Try all kinds of cheap sets of weapons to get what feels right.
This will evolve as Stats increase, better enhancive items are acquired, and weapon choice vs armor types are considered

So, what feels right now, may change at various training stages and against different types of armor types (critters).

Feras weapons, Flares, Ensorcellment, Weighting (crit and damage) can all boost your effectiveness. You hit twice as often and good combinations of the previous can add great advantages to your ranger.

*[[Edged_Weapons]]
*[[Roundtime]]
*[[Two Weapon Combat]]

==TWC Defenses==

'All about that AS that AS , no defense, it's all about the AS'

Ok, so seriously, defenses as a two weapon using ranger. As usual we have some good options available.

'''[[Two_Weapon_Combat|TWC Parry DS:]]'''
I cannot explain it better than is listed.

'''Stances:''' No really there are stances other than OFF and DEF. A good understanding of how you can adjust your stance to maintain adequate defense for the current threat and still provide you with enough offensive punch to down your enemies will really help. Your ranger spells have a great variety to help you to do this.

'''TWC Out Right [[Parry]]:''' each weapon will provide a 5% chance to parry incoming melee attacks against like level foes in stance offensive

[[Assume Aspect]]:Mantis aids nicely with both weapons chances to parry.

'''Bolt Defenses''': Two Weapon Combat style does not offer good bolt defenses (no shield). So, as a ranger we adapt. The [[Ranger Circle|ranger spell list]] and [[100s|minor spell list]] will provide a great amount of assistance to our Bolt DS. I would like to focus on those that you can use to finesse things and make your twc ranger even more protected. Minor Spirit Air wall 102, and Fog 106 can be used as well as seeking areas when hunting that provide natural defenses. Your wall of thorns blocking incoming attacks,(later boosted by Aspect Porcupine), and Evasion/dodge (boosted by serpent) however will all aid you greatly. ''Assume Aspect Mantis with a runestaff will parry bolts/arrows as well. (test it)'' Rotating aspects when mana is not the main issue.

'''NOTE: The following [[Runestaff]] comments are for much later down the line but am tossing it in here for reference''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying Bolts and arrows. Test it out if you find the need for more bolt defenses beyond what you get from Wall of Thorns or out right evasion.

'''Evade''' Can be boosted by your Aspect Serpent, I saw a really significant increase here from 21% to 40%.

'''[[Redux]]'''

==Runestaff test==
'''NOTE''': Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This Would require runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider.

An 800 bolt attack repetition test with the mage Drafix's assistance has shown my ranger's wall of thorns stopped about 21% of incoming bolt attacks. 24% were then outright evaded (wearing my hauberk or not wearing it was the same due to armor over training), (this increased to 40% evaded with Aspect Serpent running) and then after that 7% were blocked by the runestaff. Giving an over all total of 51%+ to 67% stopped/evaded/parried.

Also, the % was based on bolt spell by like level caster. I believe the Ball spells and Arrows the % to parry are different. And did not do a deep test of those at this time.

The rune staff below is +8 deringo. (a staff with [[411|eblade]] on it would cost next to nothing) (test for this posting was 8 of 20 and 10 of 27) using mantis against ball spells

''Sepher gestures at you''.

Sepher hurls a roaring ball of fire at you!

You deflect the bolt with your runestaff!

''Sepher nocks a dull black wooden arrow fletched with white-spotted falcon feathers in his sephwir long bow.'' (10/35 against arrows)

Sepher fires a dull black arrow at you!

You deflect the arrow with your runestaff!

The arrow disappears into the local environs.

Now I certainly do not expect everyone using TWC to invest in runestaves. But please remember that was 7% of the overall total attacks, not the ones that got past wall of thorns or were evaded outright) the runestaff seemed to parry about 11% of the bolts it had a chance to parry. So, if bolts become an issue, it is something to consider since you already have magical training as a semi and have a Bolt Weakness using Two weapons. You could also pick up a shield and train it post cap. But this utilizes skills you have most likely already trained in.

==Society==

(Anyone want to toss in pro-cons please do so)

Aurach is a member of Voln. Two Weapons against the many non-critable undead has worked rather well.

==Recap==
So, this is my thoughts on two weapon using rangers. I will be adding more as thoughts come to me. I find the capped version to be where my character really came into his own. There seemed to be a non-stop struggle to survive when I was hunting early on. But so much has changed since then. I think a two weapon combat ranger at this point would have great strengths right from the beginning.

''Aurach Moonshadew the Gallant, 'two-blader' of Auld Ta'Faendryl''

I would like to thank all the friends that I have encountered playing this game over the years. The list is truly too numerous to list.
Without folks aiding this build over the years it would never have been possible.

John mind behind

The dual flaring 117 spirit guidance below is a nice boost from lore training.

<pre{{log2}}>
You leap from hiding to attack!
You swing an ancient elven waraxe at a greater construct!
AS: +702 vs DS: +281 with AvD: +23 + d100 roll: +15 = +459
... and hit for 105 points of damage!
Left leg ripped from socket at the knee!
A deep basso rumbling can be heard as a greater construct falls over and grasps its mangled left leg!
The shimmering gold aura surrounding the greater construct flickers momentarily.

'''The invisible force draws back to guide you once more.'''
You swing a matte black kelyn hatchet at a greater construct!
AS: +669 vs DS: +136 with AvD: +23 + d100 roll: +2 = +558
... and hit for 156 points of damage!
Incredible smash to what used to be a stomach!
The shimmering gold aura surrounding the greater construct fades and goes out.
'''The guiding force leaves you.'''
Roundtime: 6 sec.
</pre>

==See Also==
*[[Ranger]] (main article)
*[[A beginner's guide to playing a ranger]]
*[[Evade]]
*[[Parry]]
*[http://www.play.net/gs4/info/skills.asp#twoweaponcombat Two Weapon Combat on Play.net]
*[http://www.play.net/gs4/info/professions/rangers.asp Ranger profession on Play.net]

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[[Category:Professional Guides]]

Aurach's Two Weapon Combat Guide: A Ranger's Perspective

2015-03-03T19:02:15Z

SHEN1: /* recap */

[[Image:Twcranger.jpg|thumb|Aurach]]

==The Two Weapon Combat Ranger==

The whirling scimitars of Drizzsdt Do'Urden, The 'mountain charge to rescue using hatchet and knife' in Last of the Mohican's, Lancelot's dual short swords in King Arthur, all bring the vision of our champion, the Two Weapon Combat Ranger. A challenging training path, with strong reliance on attack and speed.

Very few rangers take this path. It is up hill both ways, in the snow, at night, crossing a frigid streams, without boots.

Why are you still reading?

Let me say this one more time. It is very costly in training points, it delays most other skills/spells and you have little bolt defense.

'''''You may find training the TWC combat skill and adjusting to this style at cap MUCH easier.'''''

If you are still reading you are probably hard headed enough.

However, other guides have said there is really no 'bad' way to train a ranger. Two weapon combat from a rangers birth is probably really close however.

Good Luck

==Why two weapons?==

Most ambushing rangers and archers can kill with one well placed strike. So too can the two weapon ambushing ranger, but the world has creatures that cannot be critical struck and only massive raw damage will suffice.

Enter our ranger hero, weapon in each hand, spell at the ready. 'Guts, 'Glory, 'Aspects'

For me the style has always been about using your magics and blades together. This is really not a stand in the open and get beat on type of style. You can do that however. I prefer the use of good timing, and a rather large variety of spells to maneuver your opponents into situations favorable to you.

Your greatest strength is your variety of magics, combat maneuver skills, and weapons combined.

From the skills and stats a Ranger can be a very good two weapon user. Great spirit warding, good variety of spells, low costs to train a variety of skills, some of the best attack spells for a semi, great defensive spells all make for a really versatile and easily adjustable character.

While not recommended to try from early on, this style when combined with ambushing and Multi Opponent Combat is absolutely devastating.

==Ranger Spells==
The ranger spell list provides some unique benefits for TWC rangers, both directly and indirectly.

[[606|Phoen's strength (606)]] gives a phantom increase of +10 to [[Strength|strength]] bonus. Strength is incredibly important to keep RT down (encumbrance really affects the left hand weapon).

[[Mobility (618)]] offers a large bonus to Dodge, a TWC rangers primary defense

[[Camouflage (608)]] a +30 AS bonus from camouflage for multiple attacks. Yes both weapons get the bonus from a ranger leaping to ambush or 'plain attacking' from a camo 608 position, so this can be used by non ambusher for the boost if your quick, so you at least get the +30 AS bonus.

[[Wall of Thorns (640)]] of great assistance to a TWC ranger, the best defense is having the trees block for you and not getting hit at all.

[[650|Assume aspect (650)]] is custom made for a TWC ranger, allowing you to tweak your form to meet the current threat or boost a weakness. (alternating between rat and wolf for example maintains a boost to your agi/dex)

All Rangers also benefit from a plethora of set up spells that can complement any weapon style, such as [[Sounds (607)]], [[610|Tangle weed (610)]] , [[Call Swarm (615)]] and Sunburst (609) (note the effects vs undead)

TWC rangers will find great use in the [[Minor Spiritual]] spell circle, especially [[Spirit Barrier (102)]] and [[106|Spirit fog (106)]], to provide added defenses. Note that 102 gives a penalty to [[Attack strength|AS]] so you could [[STOP (verb)|STOP 102]], which removes the spell so you can attack without the penalty making for a creative low mana Shield/stance dance option, also breeze will eliminate 106, however that is mana intensive.

==Two Weapon Combat Training==
The introduction of Fix skills and Fix Stats, will allows new rangers to tweak their efforts with great ease. I suggest Maintain your core training, finesse skills/Stats as starting Stats have increased and allow you to gain more your training points while boosting over all stat totals. (this is an entire topic all it's own) (word smith this it isn't sounding right)

===Two Weapon Combat Ranger Core Training===

This is your base training that every two weapon ranger should have each level.

*2x (6/4) [[Combat Maneuvers]]: When points are too tight, you can skip some here if you have to, try to keep singling.
*2x (9/6) [[Two Weapon Combat]]:
*2x (9/3) [[Edged Weapons]] (Blunt weapons can be used, slightly increased training cost, do not over look this if it appeals to your style of ranger)
*1x (4/0) [[Physical Fitness]]: (no shield, you will be getting hit, you need this)
*1x (7/5) [[Dodge]]
*1x (0/5) [[Harness Power]]
*1x (0/17) [[Spell Research]]: (May have to skip spells a few levels until training points work out)
*1x (0/3) [[Perception]]: take higher at cap (if you can single, go for it, I think you will be strapped for points: You can skip this when you need to)
*1x Armor (5/0) Can skip if you have to for points, but you will need armor training and good armor with this build (Aurach's goal was 110 ranks for a chain hauberk and then 170 ranks post cap to reduce maneuver penalties in hauberk)
Total of (40/43)

===TWC Ranger Discreet Training===

These values are plateaus you should strive to reach at some point in your career.

*5 ranks of [[Multi Opponent Combat]] (10/4) as soon as you can fit it in. (30 ranks allows 2 strikes per weapon on a target, 55 ranks allows you to focus mstrike 3 times per weapon on a single target) Reduces effects of being outnumbered.
*50 Ranks in [[Climbing]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make climb checks prior to that.
*50 Ranks in [[Swimming]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make swim checks prior to that.
*[[Spiritual Lore, Blessings]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after Getting 650
*[[Spiritual Lore, Summoning]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after getting 650
(your 1 rank of these two lores gives slight increases in many of your spells, low training point cost boosts, 5 ranks is Blessing lore is very interesting also as it will allow your 117 spirit strike to have a 3% chance to affect two strikes for you being both weapons)

===Spell Research===

My preferred training order: for a two weapon build
601, 101-103, 602-618, 104-107, 619-650, 108-130, Ranger ranks for life 'Aurach Moonshadew'

(other rangers prefer minor spirit 140 and ranger 162 which provides the best CS)

I prefer to get hues, then 101-103, I like having the low mana shield of 102 with this type of character.
After that Mobility is the goal. Then getting deep blues. Then I would head for Aspect.
This is simply my preference looking back on my build.

===Optional Additional Training===

A list of the most common skills to use your additional training points on.

*1x [[Ambush]] when you can fit the ranks in, 1x at cap (more as you feel the need) (I am singled at cap currently and do very well ambushing)
*2x [[Stalking and Hiding]] – If you plan to ambush at cap you will want to 2x this, post cap
*1x-2x [[Survival]] – This will aid skinning, foraging, and overland movement
*1x-2x [[First Aid]] – This will aid in skinning and reduce herb eating RT
*Spiritual Lore: Blessing and Summoning ranger preference, I think it should be gained after ranger spells are maxed, however 5 ranks of blessing lore will allow a 3% chance to have MS117 affect two strikes low chance but is nice when it happens)
*[[Magic Item Use]] I regret not having this 1x earlier. I did it post cap and love it.
*[[Arcane Symbols]] I regret not having this 1x earlier (immediately after MIU).
*15 ranks [[Spiritual Mana Control]] as soon as you learn it is fun to share and play well with others. 15 ranks is enough to share with most Older Spirit mana using folks (25 ranks post cap if you like).

===Post Cap Goals===

*2x Physical Fitness (immediately at cap or earlier)
*2x [[Combat Maneuvers]] (At cap or earlier)
*2x [[Dodge]] (after maxing ranger spells, maybe)
*55 ranks [[Multi-Opponent Combat]] for 6 strikes focused on a single target
[[Thrown Weapons]] may be a very interesting post cap goal, since you will throw both weapons and you already have the required support skill ([[TWC]], [[Perception]], Combat Maneuvers)

[[Blessing Lore ]]

[[Summoning Lore]]

'''[[Combat Maneuver]] skills (mine at cap at moment) Post Cap goals:'''
{|{{prettytable}}
|-style = "background:#DDD; color: blue"
!Skill
!Mnemonic
!Ranks
|-align=center
|[[Cunning Defense]]
|cdefense
|5
|-align=center
|[[Combat Movement]]
|cmovement
|5
|-align=center
|[[Hamstring]]
|hamstring
|5
|-align=center
|[[Disarm Weapon]]
|disarm
|5
|-align=center
|[[Shadow Mastery]]
|smastery
|5
|-align=center
|[[Sweep]]
|sweep
|1
|-align=center
|[[Garrote]]
|garrote
|1
|-align=center
|[[Subdual Strike]]
|sstrike
|1
|}

*TWC rangers will find these useful (order of preference for me was Cdefense, Cmovement, Hamstring, Disarm, Smastery)

This is simply how Aurach trained Combat maneuver skills.

==Race==
I would hope race depends largely on the vision you have for your ranger. That being said, Agility and Dexterity are very important to reduce RT. A race that has strength and can manage encumbrance would also be wise.

==What Armor to use?==
The best armor you can afford.

My advice is Double leather, then Brigandine, then hauberk, for Full body coverage. I like the full body coverage as it allows me to wear arm/leg greaves, helm, and aventails, if I choose with no added penalties. I kept my eye out for enhancives on the added armor pieces. Padding crit or damage is always a good choice if you can afford it.

My cap armor is an imflass chain hauberk, with added helm, arm and leg greaves and aventail, it has 11% hinderance. I find the failure acceptable to my style. Some will not. A paladin for fluidity would be fantastic. I also kept training armor to reduce maneuver penalties. Armor skill is also a secondary skill for redux so serves some double duty.

==Keeping your RT manageable==

You will find the links below for Agi/Dex and Two weapon combat RT. The RT is probably the most confusing part of using two weapons. I say this because from time to time, it does not match the documents. Weapon weights, base speed, Agi/Dex, encumberance, and Character strength all affect your RT. (Assume Aspect, Phoen's Strength, Enhancive items, and Wizard strength will be the greatest help here)

To really enjoy and work the two weapon using ranger. You will need to test various combinations of weapons. Early on you might try short sword and gauche for the gauches added DS when used in off hand. Later on perhaps a long sword/short sword when you want to hit harder and keep RT manageable. Too many weapons to list.

==A Rangers Weapon Sets==
There are many weapons to try. Your ranger will have two or possibly three different sets as he heads out on patrol at certain points in thier career. This is where you get to show your rangers individuality.

My carry weapons at cap are: longsword/shortsword set, two hand axe set, and a dagger set. This is not based on min maxing, it is more a collection of style, effectiveness vs heavy armor, and a couple speed weapons for when encumbered by heaps of treasure and skins.

Do not forget to look at blunt weapons if that is more appealing to you.

I can say, that this will be fun. Try all kinds of cheap sets of weapons to get what feels right.
This will evolve as Stats increase, better enhancive items are acquired, and weapon choice vs armor types are considered

So, what feels right now, may change at various training stages and against different types of armor types (critters).

Feras weapons, Flares, Ensorcellment, Weighting (crit and damage) can all boost your effectiveness. You hit twice as often and good combinations of the previous can add great advantages to your ranger.

https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Edged_Weapons
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Roundtime
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat

==TWC Defenses==

'All about that AS that AS , no defense, it's all about the AS'

Ok, so seriously, defenses as a two weapon using ranger. As usual we have some good options available.

'''TWC Parry DS:''' https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat
I cannot explain it better than is listed.

'''Stances:''' No really there are stances other than OFF and DEF. A good understanding of how you can adjust your stance to maintain adequate defense for the current threat and still provide you with enough offensive punch to down your enemies will really help. Your ranger spells have a great variety to help you to do this.

'''TWC Out Right Parry:''' each weapon will provide a 5% chance to parry incoming melee attacks against like level foes in stance offensive (https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Parry) Assume Aspect:Mantis aids nicely with both weapons chances to parry.

'''Bolt Defenses''': Two Weapon Combat style does not offer good bolt defenses (no shield). So, as a ranger we adapt. The ranger spell list and minor spell list will provide a great amount of assistance to our Bolt DS. I would like to focus on those that you can use to finesse things and make your twc ranger even more protected. Minor Spirit Air wall 102, and Fog 106 can be used as well as seeking areas when hunting that provide natural defenses. Your wall of thorns blocking incoming attacks,(later boosted by Aspect Porcupine), and Evasion/dodge (boosted by serpent) however will all aid you greatly. ''Assume Aspect Mantis with a runestaff will parry bolts/arrows as well. (test it)'' Rotating aspects when mana is not the main issue.

'''NOTE: The following Runestaff comments are for much later down the line but am tossing it in here for reference''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying Bolts and arrows. Test it out if you find the need for more bolt defenses beyond what you get from Wall of Thorns or out right evasion.

'''Evade''' Can be boosted by your Aspect Serpent, I saw a really significant increase here from 21% to 40%.

'''Redux'''

==Runestaff test==
'''NOTE''': Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This Would require runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider.

An 800 bolt attack repitition test with the mage Drafix's assistance has shown my ranger's wall of thorns stopped about 21% of incoming bolt attacks. 24% were then outright evaded (wearing my hauberk or not wearing it was the same due to armor over training), (this increased to 40% evaded with Aspect Serpent running) and then after that 7% were blocked by the runestaff. Giving an over all total of 51%+ to 67% stopped/evaded/parried.

Also, the % was based on bolt spell by like level caster. I believe the Ball spells and Arrows the % to parry are different. And did not do a deep test of those at this time.

The rune staff below is +8 deringo. (a staff with eblade on it would cost next to nothing) (test for this posting was 8 of 20 and 10 of 27) using mantis against ball spells

''Sepher gestures at you''.

Sepher hurls a roaring ball of fire at you!

You deflect the bolt with your runestaff!

''Sepher nocks a dull black wooden arrow fletched with white-spotted falcon feathers in his sephwir long bow.'' (10/35 against arrows)

Sepher fires a dull black arrow at you!

You deflect the arrow with your runestaff!

The arrow disappears into the local environs.

Now I certainly do not expect everyone using TWC to invest in runestaves. But please remember that was 7% of the over all total attacks, not the ones that got past wall of thorns or were evaded outright) the runestaff seemed to parry about 11% of the bolts it had a chance to parry. So, if bolts become an issue, it is something to consider since you already have magical training as a semi and have a Bolt Weakness using Two weapons. You could also pick up a shield and train it post cap. But this utilizes skills you have most likely already trained in.

==Society==

(Anyone want to toss in pro-cons please do so)

Aurach is a member of Voln. Two Weapons against the many non-critable undead has worked rather well.

==recap==
So, this is my thoughts on two weapon using rangers. I will be adding more as thoughts come to me. I find the capped version to be where my character really came into his own. There seemed to be a non-stop struggle to survive when I was hunting early on. But so much has changed since then. I think a two weapon combat ranger at this point would have great strengths right from the beginning.

''Aurach Moonshadew the Gallant, 'two-blader' of Auld Ta'Faendryl''

I would like to thank all the friends that I have encountered playing this game over the years. The list is truly too numerous to list.
Without folks aiding this build over the years it would never have been possible.

John mind behind

The dual flaring 117 spirit guidance below is a nice boost from lore training.

You leap from hiding to attack!
You swing an ancient elven waraxe at a greater construct!
AS: +702 vs DS: +281 with AvD: +23 + d100 roll: +15 = +459
... and hit for 105 points of damage!
Left leg ripped from socket at the knee!
A deep basso rumbling can be heard as a greater construct falls over and grasps its mangled left leg!
(edit for spacing)
The shimmering gold aura surrounding the greater construct flickers momentarily.
'''The invisible force draws back to guide you once more.'''
You swing a matte black kelyn hatchet at a greater construct!
AS: +669 vs DS: +136 with AvD: +23 + d100 roll: +2 = +558
... and hit for 156 points of damage!
Incredible smash to what used to be a stomach!
The shimmering gold aura surrounding the greater construct fades and goes out.
'''The guiding force leaves you.'''
Roundtime: 6 sec.
R>

==See Also==
*[[Ranger]] (main article)
*[[A beginner's guide to playing a ranger]]
http://www.play.net/gs4/info/skills.asp#twoweaponcombat
Evade
Parry

==References==
*[http://www.play.net/gs4/info/professions/rangers.asp Ranger profession on Play.net]

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Aurach's Two Weapon Combat Guide: A Ranger's Perspective

2015-03-03T19:01:44Z

SHEN1: /* recap */

[[Image:Twcranger.jpg|thumb|Aurach]]

==The Two Weapon Combat Ranger==

The whirling scimitars of Drizzsdt Do'Urden, The 'mountain charge to rescue using hatchet and knife' in Last of the Mohican's, Lancelot's dual short swords in King Arthur, all bring the vision of our champion, the Two Weapon Combat Ranger. A challenging training path, with strong reliance on attack and speed.

Very few rangers take this path. It is up hill both ways, in the snow, at night, crossing a frigid streams, without boots.

Why are you still reading?

Let me say this one more time. It is very costly in training points, it delays most other skills/spells and you have little bolt defense.

'''''You may find training the TWC combat skill and adjusting to this style at cap MUCH easier.'''''

If you are still reading you are probably hard headed enough.

However, other guides have said there is really no 'bad' way to train a ranger. Two weapon combat from a rangers birth is probably really close however.

Good Luck

==Why two weapons?==

Most ambushing rangers and archers can kill with one well placed strike. So too can the two weapon ambushing ranger, but the world has creatures that cannot be critical struck and only massive raw damage will suffice.

Enter our ranger hero, weapon in each hand, spell at the ready. 'Guts, 'Glory, 'Aspects'

For me the style has always been about using your magics and blades together. This is really not a stand in the open and get beat on type of style. You can do that however. I prefer the use of good timing, and a rather large variety of spells to maneuver your opponents into situations favorable to you.

Your greatest strength is your variety of magics, combat maneuver skills, and weapons combined.

From the skills and stats a Ranger can be a very good two weapon user. Great spirit warding, good variety of spells, low costs to train a variety of skills, some of the best attack spells for a semi, great defensive spells all make for a really versatile and easily adjustable character.

While not recommended to try from early on, this style when combined with ambushing and Multi Opponent Combat is absolutely devastating.

==Ranger Spells==
The ranger spell list provides some unique benefits for TWC rangers, both directly and indirectly.

[[606|Phoen's strength (606)]] gives a phantom increase of +10 to [[Strength|strength]] bonus. Strength is incredibly important to keep RT down (encumbrance really affects the left hand weapon).

[[Mobility (618)]] offers a large bonus to Dodge, a TWC rangers primary defense

[[Camouflage (608)]] a +30 AS bonus from camouflage for multiple attacks. Yes both weapons get the bonus from a ranger leaping to ambush or 'plain attacking' from a camo 608 position, so this can be used by non ambusher for the boost if your quick, so you at least get the +30 AS bonus.

[[Wall of Thorns (640)]] of great assistance to a TWC ranger, the best defense is having the trees block for you and not getting hit at all.

[[650|Assume aspect (650)]] is custom made for a TWC ranger, allowing you to tweak your form to meet the current threat or boost a weakness. (alternating between rat and wolf for example maintains a boost to your agi/dex)

All Rangers also benefit from a plethora of set up spells that can complement any weapon style, such as [[Sounds (607)]], [[610|Tangle weed (610)]] , [[Call Swarm (615)]] and Sunburst (609) (note the effects vs undead)

TWC rangers will find great use in the [[Minor Spiritual]] spell circle, especially [[Spirit Barrier (102)]] and [[106|Spirit fog (106)]], to provide added defenses. Note that 102 gives a penalty to [[Attack strength|AS]] so you could [[STOP (verb)|STOP 102]], which removes the spell so you can attack without the penalty making for a creative low mana Shield/stance dance option, also breeze will eliminate 106, however that is mana intensive.

==Two Weapon Combat Training==
The introduction of Fix skills and Fix Stats, will allows new rangers to tweak their efforts with great ease. I suggest Maintain your core training, finesse skills/Stats as starting Stats have increased and allow you to gain more your training points while boosting over all stat totals. (this is an entire topic all it's own) (word smith this it isn't sounding right)

===Two Weapon Combat Ranger Core Training===

This is your base training that every two weapon ranger should have each level.

*2x (6/4) [[Combat Maneuvers]]: When points are too tight, you can skip some here if you have to, try to keep singling.
*2x (9/6) [[Two Weapon Combat]]:
*2x (9/3) [[Edged Weapons]] (Blunt weapons can be used, slightly increased training cost, do not over look this if it appeals to your style of ranger)
*1x (4/0) [[Physical Fitness]]: (no shield, you will be getting hit, you need this)
*1x (7/5) [[Dodge]]
*1x (0/5) [[Harness Power]]
*1x (0/17) [[Spell Research]]: (May have to skip spells a few levels until training points work out)
*1x (0/3) [[Perception]]: take higher at cap (if you can single, go for it, I think you will be strapped for points: You can skip this when you need to)
*1x Armor (5/0) Can skip if you have to for points, but you will need armor training and good armor with this build (Aurach's goal was 110 ranks for a chain hauberk and then 170 ranks post cap to reduce maneuver penalties in hauberk)
Total of (40/43)

===TWC Ranger Discreet Training===

These values are plateaus you should strive to reach at some point in your career.

*5 ranks of [[Multi Opponent Combat]] (10/4) as soon as you can fit it in. (30 ranks allows 2 strikes per weapon on a target, 55 ranks allows you to focus mstrike 3 times per weapon on a single target) Reduces effects of being outnumbered.
*50 Ranks in [[Climbing]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make climb checks prior to that.
*50 Ranks in [[Swimming]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make swim checks prior to that.
*[[Spiritual Lore, Blessings]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after Getting 650
*[[Spiritual Lore, Summoning]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after getting 650
(your 1 rank of these two lores gives slight increases in many of your spells, low training point cost boosts, 5 ranks is Blessing lore is very interesting also as it will allow your 117 spirit strike to have a 3% chance to affect two strikes for you being both weapons)

===Spell Research===

My preferred training order: for a two weapon build
601, 101-103, 602-618, 104-107, 619-650, 108-130, Ranger ranks for life 'Aurach Moonshadew'

(other rangers prefer minor spirit 140 and ranger 162 which provides the best CS)

I prefer to get hues, then 101-103, I like having the low mana shield of 102 with this type of character.
After that Mobility is the goal. Then getting deep blues. Then I would head for Aspect.
This is simply my preference looking back on my build.

===Optional Additional Training===

A list of the most common skills to use your additional training points on.

*1x [[Ambush]] when you can fit the ranks in, 1x at cap (more as you feel the need) (I am singled at cap currently and do very well ambushing)
*2x [[Stalking and Hiding]] – If you plan to ambush at cap you will want to 2x this, post cap
*1x-2x [[Survival]] – This will aid skinning, foraging, and overland movement
*1x-2x [[First Aid]] – This will aid in skinning and reduce herb eating RT
*Spiritual Lore: Blessing and Summoning ranger preference, I think it should be gained after ranger spells are maxed, however 5 ranks of blessing lore will allow a 3% chance to have MS117 affect two strikes low chance but is nice when it happens)
*[[Magic Item Use]] I regret not having this 1x earlier. I did it post cap and love it.
*[[Arcane Symbols]] I regret not having this 1x earlier (immediately after MIU).
*15 ranks [[Spiritual Mana Control]] as soon as you learn it is fun to share and play well with others. 15 ranks is enough to share with most Older Spirit mana using folks (25 ranks post cap if you like).

===Post Cap Goals===

*2x Physical Fitness (immediately at cap or earlier)
*2x [[Combat Maneuvers]] (At cap or earlier)
*2x [[Dodge]] (after maxing ranger spells, maybe)
*55 ranks [[Multi-Opponent Combat]] for 6 strikes focused on a single target
[[Thrown Weapons]] may be a very interesting post cap goal, since you will throw both weapons and you already have the required support skill ([[TWC]], [[Perception]], Combat Maneuvers)

[[Blessing Lore ]]

[[Summoning Lore]]

'''[[Combat Maneuver]] skills (mine at cap at moment) Post Cap goals:'''
{|{{prettytable}}
|-style = "background:#DDD; color: blue"
!Skill
!Mnemonic
!Ranks
|-align=center
|[[Cunning Defense]]
|cdefense
|5
|-align=center
|[[Combat Movement]]
|cmovement
|5
|-align=center
|[[Hamstring]]
|hamstring
|5
|-align=center
|[[Disarm Weapon]]
|disarm
|5
|-align=center
|[[Shadow Mastery]]
|smastery
|5
|-align=center
|[[Sweep]]
|sweep
|1
|-align=center
|[[Garrote]]
|garrote
|1
|-align=center
|[[Subdual Strike]]
|sstrike
|1
|}

*TWC rangers will find these useful (order of preference for me was Cdefense, Cmovement, Hamstring, Disarm, Smastery)

This is simply how Aurach trained Combat maneuver skills.

==Race==
I would hope race depends largely on the vision you have for your ranger. That being said, Agility and Dexterity are very important to reduce RT. A race that has strength and can manage encumbrance would also be wise.

==What Armor to use?==
The best armor you can afford.

My advice is Double leather, then Brigandine, then hauberk, for Full body coverage. I like the full body coverage as it allows me to wear arm/leg greaves, helm, and aventails, if I choose with no added penalties. I kept my eye out for enhancives on the added armor pieces. Padding crit or damage is always a good choice if you can afford it.

My cap armor is an imflass chain hauberk, with added helm, arm and leg greaves and aventail, it has 11% hinderance. I find the failure acceptable to my style. Some will not. A paladin for fluidity would be fantastic. I also kept training armor to reduce maneuver penalties. Armor skill is also a secondary skill for redux so serves some double duty.

==Keeping your RT manageable==

You will find the links below for Agi/Dex and Two weapon combat RT. The RT is probably the most confusing part of using two weapons. I say this because from time to time, it does not match the documents. Weapon weights, base speed, Agi/Dex, encumberance, and Character strength all affect your RT. (Assume Aspect, Phoen's Strength, Enhancive items, and Wizard strength will be the greatest help here)

To really enjoy and work the two weapon using ranger. You will need to test various combinations of weapons. Early on you might try short sword and gauche for the gauches added DS when used in off hand. Later on perhaps a long sword/short sword when you want to hit harder and keep RT manageable. Too many weapons to list.

==A Rangers Weapon Sets==
There are many weapons to try. Your ranger will have two or possibly three different sets as he heads out on patrol at certain points in thier career. This is where you get to show your rangers individuality.

My carry weapons at cap are: longsword/shortsword set, two hand axe set, and a dagger set. This is not based on min maxing, it is more a collection of style, effectiveness vs heavy armor, and a couple speed weapons for when encumbered by heaps of treasure and skins.

Do not forget to look at blunt weapons if that is more appealing to you.

I can say, that this will be fun. Try all kinds of cheap sets of weapons to get what feels right.
This will evolve as Stats increase, better enhancive items are acquired, and weapon choice vs armor types are considered

So, what feels right now, may change at various training stages and against different types of armor types (critters).

Feras weapons, Flares, Ensorcellment, Weighting (crit and damage) can all boost your effectiveness. You hit twice as often and good combinations of the previous can add great advantages to your ranger.

https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Edged_Weapons
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Roundtime
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat

==TWC Defenses==

'All about that AS that AS , no defense, it's all about the AS'

Ok, so seriously, defenses as a two weapon using ranger. As usual we have some good options available.

'''TWC Parry DS:''' https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat
I cannot explain it better than is listed.

'''Stances:''' No really there are stances other than OFF and DEF. A good understanding of how you can adjust your stance to maintain adequate defense for the current threat and still provide you with enough offensive punch to down your enemies will really help. Your ranger spells have a great variety to help you to do this.

'''TWC Out Right Parry:''' each weapon will provide a 5% chance to parry incoming melee attacks against like level foes in stance offensive (https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Parry) Assume Aspect:Mantis aids nicely with both weapons chances to parry.

'''Bolt Defenses''': Two Weapon Combat style does not offer good bolt defenses (no shield). So, as a ranger we adapt. The ranger spell list and minor spell list will provide a great amount of assistance to our Bolt DS. I would like to focus on those that you can use to finesse things and make your twc ranger even more protected. Minor Spirit Air wall 102, and Fog 106 can be used as well as seeking areas when hunting that provide natural defenses. Your wall of thorns blocking incoming attacks,(later boosted by Aspect Porcupine), and Evasion/dodge (boosted by serpent) however will all aid you greatly. ''Assume Aspect Mantis with a runestaff will parry bolts/arrows as well. (test it)'' Rotating aspects when mana is not the main issue.

'''NOTE: The following Runestaff comments are for much later down the line but am tossing it in here for reference''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying Bolts and arrows. Test it out if you find the need for more bolt defenses beyond what you get from Wall of Thorns or out right evasion.

'''Evade''' Can be boosted by your Aspect Serpent, I saw a really significant increase here from 21% to 40%.

'''Redux'''

==Runestaff test==
'''NOTE''': Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This Would require runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider.

An 800 bolt attack repitition test with the mage Drafix's assistance has shown my ranger's wall of thorns stopped about 21% of incoming bolt attacks. 24% were then outright evaded (wearing my hauberk or not wearing it was the same due to armor over training), (this increased to 40% evaded with Aspect Serpent running) and then after that 7% were blocked by the runestaff. Giving an over all total of 51%+ to 67% stopped/evaded/parried.

Also, the % was based on bolt spell by like level caster. I believe the Ball spells and Arrows the % to parry are different. And did not do a deep test of those at this time.

The rune staff below is +8 deringo. (a staff with eblade on it would cost next to nothing) (test for this posting was 8 of 20 and 10 of 27) using mantis against ball spells

''Sepher gestures at you''.

Sepher hurls a roaring ball of fire at you!

You deflect the bolt with your runestaff!

''Sepher nocks a dull black wooden arrow fletched with white-spotted falcon feathers in his sephwir long bow.'' (10/35 against arrows)

Sepher fires a dull black arrow at you!

You deflect the arrow with your runestaff!

The arrow disappears into the local environs.

Now I certainly do not expect everyone using TWC to invest in runestaves. But please remember that was 7% of the over all total attacks, not the ones that got past wall of thorns or were evaded outright) the runestaff seemed to parry about 11% of the bolts it had a chance to parry. So, if bolts become an issue, it is something to consider since you already have magical training as a semi and have a Bolt Weakness using Two weapons. You could also pick up a shield and train it post cap. But this utilizes skills you have most likely already trained in.

==Society==

(Anyone want to toss in pro-cons please do so)

Aurach is a member of Voln. Two Weapons against the many non-critable undead has worked rather well.

==recap==
So, this is my thoughts on two weapon using rangers. I will be adding more as thoughts come to me. I find the capped version to be where my character really came into his own. There seemed to be a non-stop struggle to survive when I was hunting early on. But so much has changed since then. I think a two weapon combat ranger at this point would have great strengths right from the beginning.

''Aurach Moonshadew the Gallant, 'two-blader' of Auld Ta'Faendryl''

I would like to thank all the friends that I have encountered playing this game over the years. The list is truly too numerous to list.
Without folks aiding this build over the years it would never have been possible.

John mind behind

The dual flaring 117 spirit guidance below is a nice boost from lore training.

You leap from hiding to attack!
You swing an ancient elven waraxe at a greater construct!
AS: +702 vs DS: +281 with AvD: +23 + d100 roll: +15 = +459
... and hit for 105 points of damage!
Left leg ripped from socket at the knee!
A deep basso rumbling can be heard as a greater construct falls over and grasps its mangled left leg!

The shimmering gold aura surrounding the greater construct flickers momentarily.
'''The invisible force draws back to guide you once more.'''
You swing a matte black kelyn hatchet at a greater construct!
AS: +669 vs DS: +136 with AvD: +23 + d100 roll: +2 = +558
... and hit for 156 points of damage!
Incredible smash to what used to be a stomach!
The shimmering gold aura surrounding the greater construct fades and goes out.
'''The guiding force leaves you.'''
Roundtime: 6 sec.
R>

==See Also==
*[[Ranger]] (main article)
*[[A beginner's guide to playing a ranger]]
http://www.play.net/gs4/info/skills.asp#twoweaponcombat
Evade
Parry

==References==
*[http://www.play.net/gs4/info/professions/rangers.asp Ranger profession on Play.net]

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Aurach's Two Weapon Combat Guide: A Ranger's Perspective

2015-02-21T15:25:54Z

SHEN1: /* The Two Weapon Combat Ranger */

[[Image:Twcranger.jpg|thumb|Aurach]]

==The Two Weapon Combat Ranger==

The whirling scimitars of Drizzsdt Do'Urden, The 'mountain charge to rescue using hatchet and knife' in Last of the Mohican's, Lancelot's dual short swords in King Arthur, all bring the vision of our champion, the Two Weapon Combat Ranger. A challenging training path, with strong reliance on attack and speed.

Very few rangers take this path. It is up hill both ways, in the snow, at night, crossing a frigid streams, without boots.

Why are you still reading?

Let me say this one more time. It is very costly in training points, it delays most other skills/spells and you have little bolt defense.

'''''You may find training the TWC combat skill and adjusting to this style at cap MUCH easier.'''''

If you are still reading you are probably hard headed enough.

However, other guides have said there is really no 'bad' way to train a ranger. Two weapon combat from a rangers birth is probably really close however.

Good Luck

==Why two weapons?==

Most ambushing rangers and archers can kill with one well placed strike. So too can the two weapon ambushing ranger, but the world has creatures that cannot be critical struck and only massive raw damage will suffice.

Enter our ranger hero, weapon in each hand, spell at the ready. 'Guts, 'Glory, 'Aspects'

For me the style has always been about using your magics and blades together. This is really not a stand in the open and get beat on type of style. You can do that however. I prefer the use of good timing, and a rather large variety of spells to maneuver your opponents into situations favorable to you.

Your greatest strength is your variety of magics, combat maneuver skills, and weapons combined.

From the skills and stats a Ranger can be a very good two weapon user. Great spirit warding, good variety of spells, low costs to train a variety of skills, some of the best attack spells for a semi, great defensive spells all make for a really versatile and easily adjustable character.

While not recommended to try from early on, this style when combined with ambushing and Multi Opponent Combat is absolutely devastating.

==Ranger Spells==
The ranger spell list provides some unique benefits for TWC rangers, both directly and indirectly.

[[606|Phoen's strength (606)]] gives a phantom increase of +10 to [[Strength|strength]] bonus. Strength is incredibly important to keep RT down (encumbrance really affects the left hand weapon).

[[Mobility (618)]] offers a large bonus to Dodge, a TWC rangers primary defense

[[Camouflage (608)]] a +30 AS bonus from camouflage for multiple attacks. Yes both weapons get the bonus from a ranger leaping to ambush or 'plain attacking' from a camo 608 position, so this can be used by non ambusher for the boost if your quick, so you at least get the +30 AS bonus.

[[Wall of Thorns (640)]] of great assistance to a TWC ranger, the best defense is having the trees block for you and not getting hit at all.

[[650|Assume aspect (650)]] is custom made for a TWC ranger, allowing you to tweak your form to meet the current threat or boost a weakness. (alternating between rat and wolf for example maintains a boost to your agi/dex)

All Rangers also benefit from a plethora of set up spells that can complement any weapon style, such as [[Sounds (607)]], [[610|Tangle weed (610)]] , [[Call Swarm (615)]] and Sunburst (609) (note the effects vs undead)

TWC rangers will find great use in the [[Minor Spiritual]] spell circle, especially [[Spirit Barrier (102)]] and [[106|Spirit fog (106)]], to provide added defenses. Note that 102 gives a penalty to [[Attack strength|AS]] so you could [[STOP (verb)|STOP 102]], which removes the spell so you can attack without the penalty making for a creative low mana Shield/stance dance option, also breeze will eliminate 106, however that is mana intensive.

==Two Weapon Combat Training==
The introduction of Fix skills and Fix Stats, will allows new rangers to tweak their efforts with great ease. I suggest Maintain your core training, finesse skills/Stats as starting Stats have increased and allow you to gain more your training points while boosting over all stat totals. (this is an entire topic all it's own) (word smith this it isn't sounding right)

===Two Weapon Combat Ranger Core Training===

This is your base training that every two weapon ranger should have each level.

*2x (6/4) [[Combat Maneuvers]]: When points are too tight, you can skip some here if you have to, try to keep singling.
*2x (9/6) [[Two Weapon Combat]]:
*2x (9/3) [[Edged Weapons]] (Blunt weapons can be used, slightly increased training cost, do not over look this if it appeals to your style of ranger)
*1x (4/0) [[Physical Fitness]]: (no shield, you will be getting hit, you need this)
*1x (7/5) [[Dodge]]
*1x (0/5) [[Harness Power]]
*1x (0/17) [[Spell Research]]: (May have to skip spells a few levels until training points work out)
*1x (0/3) [[Perception]]: take higher at cap (if you can single, go for it, I think you will be strapped for points: You can skip this when you need to)
*1x Armor (5/0) Can skip if you have to for points, but you will need armor training and good armor with this build (Aurach's goal was 110 ranks for a chain hauberk and then 170 ranks post cap to reduce maneuver penalties in hauberk)
Total of (40/43)

===TWC Ranger Discreet Training===

These values are plateaus you should strive to reach at some point in your career.

*5 ranks of [[Multi Opponent Combat]] (10/4) as soon as you can fit it in. (30 ranks allows 2 strikes per weapon on a target, 55 ranks allows you to focus mstrike 3 times per weapon on a single target) Reduces effects of being outnumbered.
*50 Ranks in [[Climbing]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make climb checks prior to that.
*50 Ranks in [[Swimming]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make swim checks prior to that.
*[[Spiritual Lore, Blessings]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after Getting 650
*[[Spiritual Lore, Summoning]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after getting 650
(your 1 rank of these two lores gives slight increases in many of your spells, low training point cost boosts, 5 ranks is Blessing lore is very interesting also as it will allow your 117 spirit strike to have a 3% chance to affect two strikes for you being both weapons)

===Spell Research===

My preferred training order: for a two weapon build
601, 101-103, 602-618, 104-107, 619-650, 108-130, Ranger ranks for life 'Aurach Moonshadew'

(other rangers prefer minor spirit 140 and ranger 162 which provides the best CS)

I prefer to get hues, then 101-103, I like having the low mana shield of 102 with this type of character.
After that Mobility is the goal. Then getting deep blues. Then I would head for Aspect.
This is simply my preference looking back on my build.

===Optional Additional Training===

A list of the most common skills to use your additional training points on.

*1x [[Ambush]] when you can fit the ranks in, 1x at cap (more as you feel the need) (I am singled at cap currently and do very well ambushing)
*2x [[Stalking and Hiding]] – If you plan to ambush at cap you will want to 2x this, post cap
*1x-2x [[Survival]] – This will aid skinning, foraging, and overland movement
*1x-2x [[First Aid]] – This will aid in skinning and reduce herb eating RT
*Spiritual Lore: Blessing and Summoning ranger preference, I think it should be gained after ranger spells are maxed, however 5 ranks of blessing lore will allow a 3% chance to have MS117 affect two strikes low chance but is nice when it happens)
*[[Magic Item Use]] I regret not having this 1x earlier. I did it post cap and love it.
*[[Arcane Symbols]] I regret not having this 1x earlier (immediately after MIU).
*15 ranks [[Spiritual Mana Control]] as soon as you learn it is fun to share and play well with others. 15 ranks is enough to share with most Older Spirit mana using folks (25 ranks post cap if you like).

===Post Cap Goals===

*2x Physical Fitness (immediately at cap or earlier)
*2x [[Combat Maneuvers]] (At cap or earlier)
*2x [[Dodge]] (after maxing ranger spells, maybe)
*55 ranks [[Multi-Opponent Combat]] for 6 strikes focused on a single target
[[Thrown Weapons]] may be a very interesting post cap goal, since you will throw both weapons and you already have the required support skill ([[TWC]], [[Perception]], Combat Maneuvers)

[[Blessing Lore ]]

[[Summoning Lore]]

'''[[Combat Maneuver]] skills (mine at cap at moment) Post Cap goals:'''
{|{{prettytable}}
|-style = "background:#DDD; color: blue"
!Skill
!Mnemonic
!Ranks
|-align=center
|[[Cunning Defense]]
|cdefense
|5
|-align=center
|[[Combat Movement]]
|cmovement
|5
|-align=center
|[[Hamstring]]
|hamstring
|5
|-align=center
|[[Disarm Weapon]]
|disarm
|5
|-align=center
|[[Shadow Mastery]]
|smastery
|5
|-align=center
|[[Sweep]]
|sweep
|1
|-align=center
|[[Garrote]]
|garrote
|1
|-align=center
|[[Subdual Strike]]
|sstrike
|1
|}

*TWC rangers will find these useful (order of preference for me was Cdefense, Cmovement, Hamstring, Disarm, Smastery)

This is simply how Aurach trained Combat maneuver skills.

==Race==
I would hope race depends largely on the vision you have for your ranger. That being said, Agility and Dexterity are very important to reduce RT. A race that has strength and can manage encumbrance would also be wise.

==What Armor to use?==
The best armor you can afford.

My advice is Double leather, then Brigandine, then hauberk, for Full body coverage. I like the full body coverage as it allows me to wear arm/leg greaves, helm, and aventails, if I choose with no added penalties. I kept my eye out for enhancives on the added armor pieces. Padding crit or damage is always a good choice if you can afford it.

My cap armor is an imflass chain hauberk, with added helm, arm and leg greaves and aventail, it has 11% hinderance. I find the failure acceptable to my style. Some will not. A paladin for fluidity would be fantastic. I also kept training armor to reduce maneuver penalties. Armor skill is also a secondary skill for redux so serves some double duty.

==Keeping your RT manageable==

You will find the links below for Agi/Dex and Two weapon combat RT. The RT is probably the most confusing part of using two weapons. I say this because from time to time, it does not match the documents. Weapon weights, base speed, Agi/Dex, encumberance, and Character strength all affect your RT. (Assume Aspect, Phoen's Strength, Enhancive items, and Wizard strength will be the greatest help here)

To really enjoy and work the two weapon using ranger. You will need to test various combinations of weapons. Early on you might try short sword and gauche for the gauches added DS when used in off hand. Later on perhaps a long sword/short sword when you want to hit harder and keep RT manageable. Too many weapons to list.

==A Rangers Weapon Sets==
There are many weapons to try. Your ranger will have two or possibly three different sets as he heads out on patrol at certain points in thier career. This is where you get to show your rangers individuality.

My carry weapons at cap are: longsword/shortsword set, two hand axe set, and a dagger set. This is not based on min maxing, it is more a collection of style, effectiveness vs heavy armor, and a couple speed weapons for when encumbered by heaps of treasure and skins.

Do not forget to look at blunt weapons if that is more appealing to you.

I can say, that this will be fun. Try all kinds of cheap sets of weapons to get what feels right.
This will evolve as Stats increase, better enhancive items are acquired, and weapon choice vs armor types are considered

So, what feels right now, may change at various training stages and against different types of armor types (critters).

Feras weapons, Flares, Ensorcellment, Weighting (crit and damage) can all boost your effectiveness. You hit twice as often and good combinations of the previous can add great advantages to your ranger.

https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Edged_Weapons
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Roundtime
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat

==TWC Defenses==

'All about that AS that AS , no defense, it's all about the AS'

Ok, so seriously, defenses as a two weapon using ranger. As usual we have some good options available.

'''TWC Parry DS:''' https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat
I cannot explain it better than is listed.

'''Stances:''' No really there are stances other than OFF and DEF. A good understanding of how you can adjust your stance to maintain adequate defense for the current threat and still provide you with enough offensive punch to down your enemies will really help. Your ranger spells have a great variety to help you to do this.

'''TWC Out Right Parry:''' each weapon will provide a 5% chance to parry incoming melee attacks against like level foes in stance offensive (https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Parry) Assume Aspect:Mantis aids nicely with both weapons chances to parry.

'''Bolt Defenses''': Two Weapon Combat style does not offer good bolt defenses (no shield). So, as a ranger we adapt. The ranger spell list and minor spell list will provide a great amount of assistance to our Bolt DS. I would like to focus on those that you can use to finesse things and make your twc ranger even more protected. Minor Spirit Air wall 102, and Fog 106 can be used as well as seeking areas when hunting that provide natural defenses. Your wall of thorns blocking incoming attacks,(later boosted by Aspect Porcupine), and Evasion/dodge (boosted by serpent) however will all aid you greatly. ''Assume Aspect Mantis with a runestaff will parry bolts/arrows as well. (test it)'' Rotating aspects when mana is not the main issue.

'''NOTE: The following Runestaff comments are for much later down the line but am tossing it in here for reference''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying Bolts and arrows. Test it out if you find the need for more bolt defenses beyond what you get from Wall of Thorns or out right evasion.

'''Evade''' Can be boosted by your Aspect Serpent, I saw a really significant increase here from 21% to 40%.

'''Redux'''

==Runestaff test==
'''NOTE''': Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This Would require runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider.

An 800 bolt attack repitition test with the mage Drafix's assistance has shown my ranger's wall of thorns stopped about 21% of incoming bolt attacks. 24% were then outright evaded (wearing my hauberk or not wearing it was the same due to armor over training), (this increased to 40% evaded with Aspect Serpent running) and then after that 7% were blocked by the runestaff. Giving an over all total of 51%+ to 67% stopped/evaded/parried.

Also, the % was based on bolt spell by like level caster. I believe the Ball spells and Arrows the % to parry are different. And did not do a deep test of those at this time.

The rune staff below is +8 deringo. (a staff with eblade on it would cost next to nothing) (test for this posting was 8 of 20 and 10 of 27) using mantis against ball spells

''Sepher gestures at you''.

Sepher hurls a roaring ball of fire at you!

You deflect the bolt with your runestaff!

''Sepher nocks a dull black wooden arrow fletched with white-spotted falcon feathers in his sephwir long bow.'' (10/35 against arrows)

Sepher fires a dull black arrow at you!

You deflect the arrow with your runestaff!

The arrow disappears into the local environs.

Now I certainly do not expect everyone using TWC to invest in runestaves. But please remember that was 7% of the over all total attacks, not the ones that got past wall of thorns or were evaded outright) the runestaff seemed to parry about 11% of the bolts it had a chance to parry. So, if bolts become an issue, it is something to consider since you already have magical training as a semi and have a Bolt Weakness using Two weapons. You could also pick up a shield and train it post cap. But this utilizes skills you have most likely already trained in.

==Society==

(Anyone want to toss in pro-cons please do so)

Aurach is a member of Voln. Two Weapons against the many non-critable undead has worked rather well.

==recap==
So, this is my thoughts on two weapon using rangers. I will be adding more as thoughts come to me. I find the capped version to be where my character really came into his own. There seemed to be a non-stop struggle to survive when I was hunting early on. But so much has changed since then. I think a two weapon combat ranger at this point would have great strengths right from the beginning.

''Aurach Moonshadew the Gallant, 'two-blader' of Auld Ta'Faendryl''

I would like to thank all the friends that I have encountered playing this game over the years. The list is truly too numerous to list.
Without folks aiding this build over the years it would never have been possible.

John mind behind

==See Also==
*[[Ranger]] (main article)
*[[A beginner's guide to playing a ranger]]
http://www.play.net/gs4/info/skills.asp#twoweaponcombat
Evade
Parry

==References==
*[http://www.play.net/gs4/info/professions/rangers.asp Ranger profession on Play.net]

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[[Category:Professional Guides]]

Aurach's Two Weapon Combat Guide: A Ranger's Perspective

2015-02-21T14:48:28Z

SHEN1: /* recap */

[[Image:Twcranger.jpg|thumb|Aurach]]

==The Two Weapon Combat Ranger==

The whirling scimitars of Drizzsdt Do'Urden, The 'mountain charge to rescue using Hatchet and knife' in Last of the Mohican's, Lancelot's dual short swords in King Arthur, all bring the vision of our champion, the Two Weapon Combat Ranger. A challenging training path, with strong reliance on attack and speed.

Very few rangers take this path. It is up hill both ways, in the snow, at night, crossing a frigid streams, without boots.

Why are you still reading?

Let me say this one more time. It is very costly in training points, it delays most other skills/spells and you have little bolt defense.

'''''You may find training the TWC combat skill and adjusting to this style at cap MUCH easier.'''''

If you are still reading you are probably hard headed enough.

However, other guides have said there is really no 'bad' way to train a ranger. Two weapon combat from a rangers birth is probably really close however.

Good Luck

==Why two weapons?==

Most ambushing rangers and archers can kill with one well placed strike. So too can the two weapon ambushing ranger, but the world has creatures that cannot be critical struck and only massive raw damage will suffice.

Enter our ranger hero, weapon in each hand, spell at the ready. 'Guts, 'Glory, 'Aspects'

For me the style has always been about using your magics and blades together. This is really not a stand in the open and get beat on type of style. You can do that however. I prefer the use of good timing, and a rather large variety of spells to maneuver your opponents into situations favorable to you.

Your greatest strength is your variety of magics, combat maneuver skills, and weapons combined.

From the skills and stats a Ranger can be a very good two weapon user. Great spirit warding, good variety of spells, low costs to train a variety of skills, some of the best attack spells for a semi, great defensive spells all make for a really versatile and easily adjustable character.

While not recommended to try from early on, this style when combined with ambushing and Multi Opponent Combat is absolutely devastating.

==Ranger Spells==
The ranger spell list provides some unique benefits for TWC rangers, both directly and indirectly.

[[606|Phoen's strength (606)]] gives a phantom increase of +10 to [[Strength|strength]] bonus. Strength is incredibly important to keep RT down (encumbrance really affects the left hand weapon).

[[Mobility (618)]] offers a large bonus to Dodge, a TWC rangers primary defense

[[Camouflage (608)]] a +30 AS bonus from camouflage for multiple attacks. Yes both weapons get the bonus from a ranger leaping to ambush or 'plain attacking' from a camo 608 position, so this can be used by non ambusher for the boost if your quick, so you at least get the +30 AS bonus.

[[Wall of Thorns (640)]] of great assistance to a TWC ranger, the best defense is having the trees block for you and not getting hit at all.

[[650|Assume aspect (650)]] is custom made for a TWC ranger, allowing you to tweak your form to meet the current threat or boost a weakness. (alternating between rat and wolf for example maintains a boost to your agi/dex)

All Rangers also benefit from a plethora of set up spells that can complement any weapon style, such as [[Sounds (607)]], [[610|Tangle weed (610)]] , [[Call Swarm (615)]] and Sunburst (609) (note the effects vs undead)

TWC rangers will find great use in the [[Minor Spiritual]] spell circle, especially [[Spirit Barrier (102)]] and [[106|Spirit fog (106)]], to provide added defenses. Note that 102 gives a penalty to [[Attack strength|AS]] so you could [[STOP (verb)|STOP 102]], which removes the spell so you can attack without the penalty making for a creative low mana Shield/stance dance option, also breeze will eliminate 106, however that is mana intensive.

==Two Weapon Combat Training==
The introduction of Fix skills and Fix Stats, will allows new rangers to tweak their efforts with great ease. I suggest Maintain your core training, finesse skills/Stats as starting Stats have increased and allow you to gain more your training points while boosting over all stat totals. (this is an entire topic all it's own) (word smith this it isn't sounding right)

===Two Weapon Combat Ranger Core Training===

This is your base training that every two weapon ranger should have each level.

*2x (6/4) [[Combat Maneuvers]]: When points are too tight, you can skip some here if you have to, try to keep singling.
*2x (9/6) [[Two Weapon Combat]]:
*2x (9/3) [[Edged Weapons]] (Blunt weapons can be used, slightly increased training cost, do not over look this if it appeals to your style of ranger)
*1x (4/0) [[Physical Fitness]]: (no shield, you will be getting hit, you need this)
*1x (7/5) [[Dodge]]
*1x (0/5) [[Harness Power]]
*1x (0/17) [[Spell Research]]: (May have to skip spells a few levels until training points work out)
*1x (0/3) [[Perception]]: take higher at cap (if you can single, go for it, I think you will be strapped for points: You can skip this when you need to)
*1x Armor (5/0) Can skip if you have to for points, but you will need armor training and good armor with this build (Aurach's goal was 110 ranks for a chain hauberk and then 170 ranks post cap to reduce maneuver penalties in hauberk)
Total of (40/43)

===TWC Ranger Discreet Training===

These values are plateaus you should strive to reach at some point in your career.

*5 ranks of [[Multi Opponent Combat]] (10/4) as soon as you can fit it in. (30 ranks allows 2 strikes per weapon on a target, 55 ranks allows you to focus mstrike 3 times per weapon on a single target) Reduces effects of being outnumbered.
*50 Ranks in [[Climbing]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make climb checks prior to that.
*50 Ranks in [[Swimming]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make swim checks prior to that.
*[[Spiritual Lore, Blessings]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after Getting 650
*[[Spiritual Lore, Summoning]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after getting 650
(your 1 rank of these two lores gives slight increases in many of your spells, low training point cost boosts, 5 ranks is Blessing lore is very interesting also as it will allow your 117 spirit strike to have a 3% chance to affect two strikes for you being both weapons)

===Spell Research===

My preferred training order: for a two weapon build
601, 101-103, 602-618, 104-107, 619-650, 108-130, Ranger ranks for life 'Aurach Moonshadew'

(other rangers prefer minor spirit 140 and ranger 162 which provides the best CS)

I prefer to get hues, then 101-103, I like having the low mana shield of 102 with this type of character.
After that Mobility is the goal. Then getting deep blues. Then I would head for Aspect.
This is simply my preference looking back on my build.

===Optional Additional Training===

A list of the most common skills to use your additional training points on.

*1x [[Ambush]] when you can fit the ranks in, 1x at cap (more as you feel the need) (I am singled at cap currently and do very well ambushing)
*2x [[Stalking and Hiding]] – If you plan to ambush at cap you will want to 2x this, post cap
*1x-2x [[Survival]] – This will aid skinning, foraging, and overland movement
*1x-2x [[First Aid]] – This will aid in skinning and reduce herb eating RT
*Spiritual Lore: Blessing and Summoning ranger preference, I think it should be gained after ranger spells are maxed, however 5 ranks of blessing lore will allow a 3% chance to have MS117 affect two strikes low chance but is nice when it happens)
*[[Magic Item Use]] I regret not having this 1x earlier. I did it post cap and love it.
*[[Arcane Symbols]] I regret not having this 1x earlier (immediately after MIU).
*15 ranks [[Spiritual Mana Control]] as soon as you learn it is fun to share and play well with others. 15 ranks is enough to share with most Older Spirit mana using folks (25 ranks post cap if you like).

===Post Cap Goals===

*2x Physical Fitness (immediately at cap or earlier)
*2x [[Combat Maneuvers]] (At cap or earlier)
*2x [[Dodge]] (after maxing ranger spells, maybe)
*55 ranks [[Multi-Opponent Combat]] for 6 strikes focused on a single target
[[Thrown Weapons]] may be a very interesting post cap goal, since you will throw both weapons and you already have the required support skill ([[TWC]], [[Perception]], Combat Maneuvers)

[[Blessing Lore ]]

[[Summoning Lore]]

'''[[Combat Maneuver]] skills (mine at cap at moment) Post Cap goals:'''
{|{{prettytable}}
|-style = "background:#DDD; color: blue"
!Skill
!Mnemonic
!Ranks
|-align=center
|[[Cunning Defense]]
|cdefense
|5
|-align=center
|[[Combat Movement]]
|cmovement
|5
|-align=center
|[[Hamstring]]
|hamstring
|5
|-align=center
|[[Disarm Weapon]]
|disarm
|5
|-align=center
|[[Shadow Mastery]]
|smastery
|5
|-align=center
|[[Sweep]]
|sweep
|1
|-align=center
|[[Garrote]]
|garrote
|1
|-align=center
|[[Subdual Strike]]
|sstrike
|1
|}

*TWC rangers will find these useful (order of preference for me was Cdefense, Cmovement, Hamstring, Disarm, Smastery)

This is simply how Aurach trained Combat maneuver skills.

==Race==
I would hope race depends largely on the vision you have for your ranger. That being said, Agility and Dexterity are very important to reduce RT. A race that has strength and can manage encumbrance would also be wise.

==What Armor to use?==
The best armor you can afford.

My advice is Double leather, then Brigandine, then hauberk, for Full body coverage. I like the full body coverage as it allows me to wear arm/leg greaves, helm, and aventails, if I choose with no added penalties. I kept my eye out for enhancives on the added armor pieces. Padding crit or damage is always a good choice if you can afford it.

My cap armor is an imflass chain hauberk, with added helm, arm and leg greaves and aventail, it has 11% hinderance. I find the failure acceptable to my style. Some will not. A paladin for fluidity would be fantastic. I also kept training armor to reduce maneuver penalties. Armor skill is also a secondary skill for redux so serves some double duty.

==Keeping your RT manageable==

You will find the links below for Agi/Dex and Two weapon combat RT. The RT is probably the most confusing part of using two weapons. I say this because from time to time, it does not match the documents. Weapon weights, base speed, Agi/Dex, encumberance, and Character strength all affect your RT. (Assume Aspect, Phoen's Strength, Enhancive items, and Wizard strength will be the greatest help here)

To really enjoy and work the two weapon using ranger. You will need to test various combinations of weapons. Early on you might try short sword and gauche for the gauches added DS when used in off hand. Later on perhaps a long sword/short sword when you want to hit harder and keep RT manageable. Too many weapons to list.

==A Rangers Weapon Sets==
There are many weapons to try. Your ranger will have two or possibly three different sets as he heads out on patrol at certain points in thier career. This is where you get to show your rangers individuality.

My carry weapons at cap are: longsword/shortsword set, two hand axe set, and a dagger set. This is not based on min maxing, it is more a collection of style, effectiveness vs heavy armor, and a couple speed weapons for when encumbered by heaps of treasure and skins.

Do not forget to look at blunt weapons if that is more appealing to you.

I can say, that this will be fun. Try all kinds of cheap sets of weapons to get what feels right.
This will evolve as Stats increase, better enhancive items are acquired, and weapon choice vs armor types are considered

So, what feels right now, may change at various training stages and against different types of armor types (critters).

Feras weapons, Flares, Ensorcellment, Weighting (crit and damage) can all boost your effectiveness. You hit twice as often and good combinations of the previous can add great advantages to your ranger.

https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Edged_Weapons
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Roundtime
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat

==TWC Defenses==

'All about that AS that AS , no defense, it's all about the AS'

Ok, so seriously, defenses as a two weapon using ranger. As usual we have some good options available.

'''TWC Parry DS:''' https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat
I cannot explain it better than is listed.

'''Stances:''' No really there are stances other than OFF and DEF. A good understanding of how you can adjust your stance to maintain adequate defense for the current threat and still provide you with enough offensive punch to down your enemies will really help. Your ranger spells have a great variety to help you to do this.

'''TWC Out Right Parry:''' each weapon will provide a 5% chance to parry incoming melee attacks against like level foes in stance offensive (https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Parry) Assume Aspect:Mantis aids nicely with both weapons chances to parry.

'''Bolt Defenses''': Two Weapon Combat style does not offer good bolt defenses (no shield). So, as a ranger we adapt. The ranger spell list and minor spell list will provide a great amount of assistance to our Bolt DS. I would like to focus on those that you can use to finesse things and make your twc ranger even more protected. Minor Spirit Air wall 102, and Fog 106 can be used as well as seeking areas when hunting that provide natural defenses. Your wall of thorns blocking incoming attacks,(later boosted by Aspect Porcupine), and Evasion/dodge (boosted by serpent) however will all aid you greatly. ''Assume Aspect Mantis with a runestaff will parry bolts/arrows as well. (test it)'' Rotating aspects when mana is not the main issue.

'''NOTE: The following Runestaff comments are for much later down the line but am tossing it in here for reference''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying Bolts and arrows. Test it out if you find the need for more bolt defenses beyond what you get from Wall of Thorns or out right evasion.

'''Evade''' Can be boosted by your Aspect Serpent, I saw a really significant increase here from 21% to 40%.

'''Redux'''

==Runestaff test==
'''NOTE''': Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This Would require runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider.

An 800 bolt attack repitition test with the mage Drafix's assistance has shown my ranger's wall of thorns stopped about 21% of incoming bolt attacks. 24% were then outright evaded (wearing my hauberk or not wearing it was the same due to armor over training), (this increased to 40% evaded with Aspect Serpent running) and then after that 7% were blocked by the runestaff. Giving an over all total of 51%+ to 67% stopped/evaded/parried.

Also, the % was based on bolt spell by like level caster. I believe the Ball spells and Arrows the % to parry are different. And did not do a deep test of those at this time.

The rune staff below is +8 deringo. (a staff with eblade on it would cost next to nothing) (test for this posting was 8 of 20 and 10 of 27) using mantis against ball spells

''Sepher gestures at you''.

Sepher hurls a roaring ball of fire at you!

You deflect the bolt with your runestaff!

''Sepher nocks a dull black wooden arrow fletched with white-spotted falcon feathers in his sephwir long bow.'' (10/35 against arrows)

Sepher fires a dull black arrow at you!

You deflect the arrow with your runestaff!

The arrow disappears into the local environs.

Now I certainly do not expect everyone using TWC to invest in runestaves. But please remember that was 7% of the over all total attacks, not the ones that got past wall of thorns or were evaded outright) the runestaff seemed to parry about 11% of the bolts it had a chance to parry. So, if bolts become an issue, it is something to consider since you already have magical training as a semi and have a Bolt Weakness using Two weapons. You could also pick up a shield and train it post cap. But this utilizes skills you have most likely already trained in.

==Society==

(Anyone want to toss in pro-cons please do so)

Aurach is a member of Voln. Two Weapons against the many non-critable undead has worked rather well.

==recap==
So, this is my thoughts on two weapon using rangers. I will be adding more as thoughts come to me. I find the capped version to be where my character really came into his own. There seemed to be a non-stop struggle to survive when I was hunting early on. But so much has changed since then. I think a two weapon combat ranger at this point would have great strengths right from the beginning.

''Aurach Moonshadew the Gallant, 'two-blader' of Auld Ta'Faendryl''

I would like to thank all the friends that I have encountered playing this game over the years. The list is truly too numerous to list.
Without folks aiding this build over the years it would never have been possible.

John mind behind

==See Also==
*[[Ranger]] (main article)
*[[A beginner's guide to playing a ranger]]
http://www.play.net/gs4/info/skills.asp#twoweaponcombat
Evade
Parry

==References==
*[http://www.play.net/gs4/info/professions/rangers.asp Ranger profession on Play.net]

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[[Category:Ranger]]
[[Category:Professional Guides]]

Aurach's Two Weapon Combat Guide: A Ranger's Perspective

2015-02-20T19:34:00Z

SHEN1: /* The Two Weapon Combat Ranger */

[[Image:Twcranger.jpg|thumb|Aurach]]

==The Two Weapon Combat Ranger==

The whirling scimitars of Drizzsdt Do'Urden, The 'mountain charge to rescue using Hatchet and knife' in Last of the Mohican's, Lancelot's dual short swords in King Arthur, all bring the vision of our champion, the Two Weapon Combat Ranger. A challenging training path, with strong reliance on attack and speed.

Very few rangers take this path. It is up hill both ways, in the snow, at night, crossing a frigid streams, without boots.

Why are you still reading?

Let me say this one more time. It is very costly in training points, it delays most other skills/spells and you have little bolt defense.

'''''You may find training the TWC combat skill and adjusting to this style at cap MUCH easier.'''''

If you are still reading you are probably hard headed enough.

However, other guides have said there is really no 'bad' way to train a ranger. Two weapon combat from a rangers birth is probably really close however.

Good Luck

==Why two weapons?==

Most ambushing rangers and archers can kill with one well placed strike. So too can the two weapon ambushing ranger, but the world has creatures that cannot be critical struck and only massive raw damage will suffice.

Enter our ranger hero, weapon in each hand, spell at the ready. 'Guts, 'Glory, 'Aspects'

For me the style has always been about using your magics and blades together. This is really not a stand in the open and get beat on type of style. You can do that however. I prefer the use of good timing, and a rather large variety of spells to maneuver your opponents into situations favorable to you.

Your greatest strength is your variety of magics, combat maneuver skills, and weapons combined.

From the skills and stats a Ranger can be a very good two weapon user. Great spirit warding, good variety of spells, low costs to train a variety of skills, some of the best attack spells for a semi, great defensive spells all make for a really versatile and easily adjustable character.

While not recommended to try from early on, this style when combined with ambushing and Multi Opponent Combat is absolutely devastating.

==Ranger Spells==
The ranger spell list provides some unique benefits for TWC rangers, both directly and indirectly.

[[606|Phoen's strength (606)]] gives a phantom increase of +10 to [[Strength|strength]] bonus. Strength is incredibly important to keep RT down (encumbrance really affects the left hand weapon).

[[Mobility (618)]] offers a large bonus to Dodge, a TWC rangers primary defense

[[Camouflage (608)]] a +30 AS bonus from camouflage for multiple attacks. Yes both weapons get the bonus from a ranger leaping to ambush or 'plain attacking' from a camo 608 position, so this can be used by non ambusher for the boost if your quick, so you at least get the +30 AS bonus.

[[Wall of Thorns (640)]] of great assistance to a TWC ranger, the best defense is having the trees block for you and not getting hit at all.

[[650|Assume aspect (650)]] is custom made for a TWC ranger, allowing you to tweak your form to meet the current threat or boost a weakness. (alternating between rat and wolf for example maintains a boost to your agi/dex)

All Rangers also benefit from a plethora of set up spells that can complement any weapon style, such as [[Sounds (607)]], [[610|Tangle weed (610)]] , [[Call Swarm (615)]] and Sunburst (609) (note the effects vs undead)

TWC rangers will find great use in the [[Minor Spiritual]] spell circle, especially [[Spirit Barrier (102)]] and [[106|Spirit fog (106)]], to provide added defenses. Note that 102 gives a penalty to [[Attack strength|AS]] so you could [[STOP (verb)|STOP 102]], which removes the spell so you can attack without the penalty making for a creative low mana Shield/stance dance option, also breeze will eliminate 106, however that is mana intensive.

==Two Weapon Combat Training==
The introduction of Fix skills and Fix Stats, will allows new rangers to tweak their efforts with great ease. I suggest Maintain your core training, finesse skills/Stats as starting Stats have increased and allow you to gain more your training points while boosting over all stat totals. (this is an entire topic all it's own) (word smith this it isn't sounding right)

===Two Weapon Combat Ranger Core Training===

This is your base training that every two weapon ranger should have each level.

*2x (6/4) [[Combat Maneuvers]]: When points are too tight, you can skip some here if you have to, try to keep singling.
*2x (9/6) [[Two Weapon Combat]]:
*2x (9/3) [[Edged Weapons]] (Blunt weapons can be used, slightly increased training cost, do not over look this if it appeals to your style of ranger)
*1x (4/0) [[Physical Fitness]]: (no shield, you will be getting hit, you need this)
*1x (7/5) [[Dodge]]
*1x (0/5) [[Harness Power]]
*1x (0/17) [[Spell Research]]: (May have to skip spells a few levels until training points work out)
*1x (0/3) [[Perception]]: take higher at cap (if you can single, go for it, I think you will be strapped for points: You can skip this when you need to)
*1x Armor (5/0) Can skip if you have to for points, but you will need armor training and good armor with this build (Aurach's goal was 110 ranks for a chain hauberk and then 170 ranks post cap to reduce maneuver penalties in hauberk)
Total of (40/43)

===TWC Ranger Discreet Training===

These values are plateaus you should strive to reach at some point in your career.

*5 ranks of [[Multi Opponent Combat]] (10/4) as soon as you can fit it in. (30 ranks allows 2 strikes per weapon on a target, 55 ranks allows you to focus mstrike 3 times per weapon on a single target) Reduces effects of being outnumbered.
*50 Ranks in [[Climbing]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make climb checks prior to that.
*50 Ranks in [[Swimming]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make swim checks prior to that.
*[[Spiritual Lore, Blessings]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after Getting 650
*[[Spiritual Lore, Summoning]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after getting 650
(your 1 rank of these two lores gives slight increases in many of your spells, low training point cost boosts, 5 ranks is Blessing lore is very interesting also as it will allow your 117 spirit strike to have a 3% chance to affect two strikes for you being both weapons)

===Spell Research===

My preferred training order: for a two weapon build
601, 101-103, 602-618, 104-107, 619-650, 108-130, Ranger ranks for life 'Aurach Moonshadew'

(other rangers prefer minor spirit 140 and ranger 162 which provides the best CS)

I prefer to get hues, then 101-103, I like having the low mana shield of 102 with this type of character.
After that Mobility is the goal. Then getting deep blues. Then I would head for Aspect.
This is simply my preference looking back on my build.

===Optional Additional Training===

A list of the most common skills to use your additional training points on.

*1x [[Ambush]] when you can fit the ranks in, 1x at cap (more as you feel the need) (I am singled at cap currently and do very well ambushing)
*2x [[Stalking and Hiding]] – If you plan to ambush at cap you will want to 2x this, post cap
*1x-2x [[Survival]] – This will aid skinning, foraging, and overland movement
*1x-2x [[First Aid]] – This will aid in skinning and reduce herb eating RT
*Spiritual Lore: Blessing and Summoning ranger preference, I think it should be gained after ranger spells are maxed, however 5 ranks of blessing lore will allow a 3% chance to have MS117 affect two strikes low chance but is nice when it happens)
*[[Magic Item Use]] I regret not having this 1x earlier. I did it post cap and love it.
*[[Arcane Symbols]] I regret not having this 1x earlier (immediately after MIU).
*15 ranks [[Spiritual Mana Control]] as soon as you learn it is fun to share and play well with others. 15 ranks is enough to share with most Older Spirit mana using folks (25 ranks post cap if you like).

===Post Cap Goals===

*2x Physical Fitness (immediately at cap or earlier)
*2x [[Combat Maneuvers]] (At cap or earlier)
*2x [[Dodge]] (after maxing ranger spells, maybe)
*55 ranks [[Multi-Opponent Combat]] for 6 strikes focused on a single target
[[Thrown Weapons]] may be a very interesting post cap goal, since you will throw both weapons and you already have the required support skill ([[TWC]], [[Perception]], Combat Maneuvers)

[[Blessing Lore ]]

[[Summoning Lore]]

'''[[Combat Maneuver]] skills (mine at cap at moment) Post Cap goals:'''
{|{{prettytable}}
|-style = "background:#DDD; color: blue"
!Skill
!Mnemonic
!Ranks
|-align=center
|[[Cunning Defense]]
|cdefense
|5
|-align=center
|[[Combat Movement]]
|cmovement
|5
|-align=center
|[[Hamstring]]
|hamstring
|5
|-align=center
|[[Disarm Weapon]]
|disarm
|5
|-align=center
|[[Shadow Mastery]]
|smastery
|5
|-align=center
|[[Sweep]]
|sweep
|1
|-align=center
|[[Garrote]]
|garrote
|1
|-align=center
|[[Subdual Strike]]
|sstrike
|1
|}

*TWC rangers will find these useful (order of preference for me was Cdefense, Cmovement, Hamstring, Disarm, Smastery)

This is simply how Aurach trained Combat maneuver skills.

==Race==
I would hope race depends largely on the vision you have for your ranger. That being said, Agility and Dexterity are very important to reduce RT. A race that has strength and can manage encumbrance would also be wise.

==What Armor to use?==
The best armor you can afford.

My advice is Double leather, then Brigandine, then hauberk, for Full body coverage. I like the full body coverage as it allows me to wear arm/leg greaves, helm, and aventails, if I choose with no added penalties. I kept my eye out for enhancives on the added armor pieces. Padding crit or damage is always a good choice if you can afford it.

My cap armor is an imflass chain hauberk, with added helm, arm and leg greaves and aventail, it has 11% hinderance. I find the failure acceptable to my style. Some will not. A paladin for fluidity would be fantastic. I also kept training armor to reduce maneuver penalties. Armor skill is also a secondary skill for redux so serves some double duty.

==Keeping your RT manageable==

You will find the links below for Agi/Dex and Two weapon combat RT. The RT is probably the most confusing part of using two weapons. I say this because from time to time, it does not match the documents. Weapon weights, base speed, Agi/Dex, encumberance, and Character strength all affect your RT. (Assume Aspect, Phoen's Strength, Enhancive items, and Wizard strength will be the greatest help here)

To really enjoy and work the two weapon using ranger. You will need to test various combinations of weapons. Early on you might try short sword and gauche for the gauches added DS when used in off hand. Later on perhaps a long sword/short sword when you want to hit harder and keep RT manageable. Too many weapons to list.

==A Rangers Weapon Sets==
There are many weapons to try. Your ranger will have two or possibly three different sets as he heads out on patrol at certain points in thier career. This is where you get to show your rangers individuality.

My carry weapons at cap are: longsword/shortsword set, two hand axe set, and a dagger set. This is not based on min maxing, it is more a collection of style, effectiveness vs heavy armor, and a couple speed weapons for when encumbered by heaps of treasure and skins.

Do not forget to look at blunt weapons if that is more appealing to you.

I can say, that this will be fun. Try all kinds of cheap sets of weapons to get what feels right.
This will evolve as Stats increase, better enhancive items are acquired, and weapon choice vs armor types are considered

So, what feels right now, may change at various training stages and against different types of armor types (critters).

Feras weapons, Flares, Ensorcellment, Weighting (crit and damage) can all boost your effectiveness. You hit twice as often and good combinations of the previous can add great advantages to your ranger.

https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Edged_Weapons
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Roundtime
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat

==TWC Defenses==

'All about that AS that AS , no defense, it's all about the AS'

Ok, so seriously, defenses as a two weapon using ranger. As usual we have some good options available.

'''TWC Parry DS:''' https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat
I cannot explain it better than is listed.

'''Stances:''' No really there are stances other than OFF and DEF. A good understanding of how you can adjust your stance to maintain adequate defense for the current threat and still provide you with enough offensive punch to down your enemies will really help. Your ranger spells have a great variety to help you to do this.

'''TWC Out Right Parry:''' each weapon will provide a 5% chance to parry incoming melee attacks against like level foes in stance offensive (https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Parry) Assume Aspect:Mantis aids nicely with both weapons chances to parry.

'''Bolt Defenses''': Two Weapon Combat style does not offer good bolt defenses (no shield). So, as a ranger we adapt. The ranger spell list and minor spell list will provide a great amount of assistance to our Bolt DS. I would like to focus on those that you can use to finesse things and make your twc ranger even more protected. Minor Spirit Air wall 102, and Fog 106 can be used as well as seeking areas when hunting that provide natural defenses. Your wall of thorns blocking incoming attacks,(later boosted by Aspect Porcupine), and Evasion/dodge (boosted by serpent) however will all aid you greatly. ''Assume Aspect Mantis with a runestaff will parry bolts/arrows as well. (test it)'' Rotating aspects when mana is not the main issue.

'''NOTE: The following Runestaff comments are for much later down the line but am tossing it in here for reference''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying Bolts and arrows. Test it out if you find the need for more bolt defenses beyond what you get from Wall of Thorns or out right evasion.

'''Evade''' Can be boosted by your Aspect Serpent, I saw a really significant increase here from 21% to 40%.

'''Redux'''

==Runestaff test==
'''NOTE''': Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This Would require runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider.

An 800 bolt attack repitition test with the mage Drafix's assistance has shown my ranger's wall of thorns stopped about 21% of incoming bolt attacks. 24% were then outright evaded (wearing my hauberk or not wearing it was the same due to armor over training), (this increased to 40% evaded with Aspect Serpent running) and then after that 7% were blocked by the runestaff. Giving an over all total of 51%+ to 67% stopped/evaded/parried.

Also, the % was based on bolt spell by like level caster. I believe the Ball spells and Arrows the % to parry are different. And did not do a deep test of those at this time.

The rune staff below is +8 deringo. (a staff with eblade on it would cost next to nothing) (test for this posting was 8 of 20 and 10 of 27) using mantis against ball spells

''Sepher gestures at you''.

Sepher hurls a roaring ball of fire at you!

You deflect the bolt with your runestaff!

''Sepher nocks a dull black wooden arrow fletched with white-spotted falcon feathers in his sephwir long bow.'' (10/35 against arrows)

Sepher fires a dull black arrow at you!

You deflect the arrow with your runestaff!

The arrow disappears into the local environs.

Now I certainly do not expect everyone using TWC to invest in runestaves. But please remember that was 7% of the over all total attacks, not the ones that got past wall of thorns or were evaded outright) the runestaff seemed to parry about 11% of the bolts it had a chance to parry. So, if bolts become an issue, it is something to consider since you already have magical training as a semi and have a Bolt Weakness using Two weapons. You could also pick up a shield and train it post cap. But this utilizes skills you have most likely already trained in.

==Society==

(Anyone want to toss in pro-cons please do so)

Aurach is a member of Voln. Two Weapons against the many non-critable undead has worked rather well.

==recap==
So, this is my thoughts on two weapon using rangers. I will be adding more as thoughts come to me. I find the capped version to be where my character really came into his own. There seemed to be a non-stop struggle to survive when I was hunting early on. But so much has changed since then. I think a two weapon combat ranger at this point would have great strengths right from the beginning.

John mind behind

''Aurach Moonshadew the Gallant, 'two-blader' of Auld Ta'Faendryl''

==See Also==
*[[Ranger]] (main article)
*[[A beginner's guide to playing a ranger]]
http://www.play.net/gs4/info/skills.asp#twoweaponcombat
Evade
Parry

==References==
*[http://www.play.net/gs4/info/professions/rangers.asp Ranger profession on Play.net]

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[[Category:Ranger]]
[[Category:Professional Guides]]

Aurach's Two Weapon Combat Guide: A Ranger's Perspective

2015-02-20T14:57:13Z

SHEN1: /* The Two Weapon Combat Ranger */

[[Image:Twcranger.jpg|thumb|Aurach]]

==The Two Weapon Combat Ranger==

The whirling scimitars of Drizzsdt Do'Urden, The 'mountain charge to rescue' in Last of the Mohican's using Hatchet and knife, Lancelot's dual short swords in King Arthur, all bring the vision of our champion, the Two Weapon Combat Ranger. A challenging training path, with strong reliance on attack and speed.

Very few rangers take this path. It is up hill both ways, in the snow, at night, crossing a frigid streams, without boots.

Why are you still reading?

Let me say this one more time. It is very costly in training points, it delays most other skills/spells and you have little bolt defense.

'''''You may find training the TWC combat skill and adjusting to this style at cap MUCH easier.'''''

If you are still reading you are probably hard headed enough.

However, other guides have said there is really no 'bad' way to train a ranger. Two weapon combat from a rangers birth is probably really close however.

Good Luck

==Why two weapons?==

Most ambushing rangers and archers can kill with one well placed strike. So too can the two weapon ambushing ranger, but the world has creatures that cannot be critical struck and only massive raw damage will suffice.

Enter our ranger hero, weapon in each hand, spell at the ready. 'Guts, 'Glory, 'Aspects'

For me the style has always been about using your magics and blades together. This is really not a stand in the open and get beat on type of style. You can do that however. I prefer the use of good timing, and a rather large variety of spells to maneuver your opponents into situations favorable to you.

Your greatest strength is your variety of magics, combat maneuver skills, and weapons combined.

From the skills and stats a Ranger can be a very good two weapon user. Great spirit warding, good variety of spells, low costs to train a variety of skills, some of the best attack spells for a semi, great defensive spells all make for a really versatile and easily adjustable character.

While not recommended to try from early on, this style when combined with ambushing and Multi Opponent Combat is absolutely devastating.

==Ranger Spells==
The ranger spell list provides some unique benefits for TWC rangers, both directly and indirectly.

[[606|Phoen's strength (606)]] gives a phantom increase of +10 to [[Strength|strength]] bonus. Strength is incredibly important to keep RT down (encumbrance really affects the left hand weapon).

[[Mobility (618)]] offers a large bonus to Dodge, a TWC rangers primary defense

[[Camouflage (608)]] a +30 AS bonus from camouflage for multiple attacks. Yes both weapons get the bonus from a ranger leaping to ambush or 'plain attacking' from a camo 608 position, so this can be used by non ambusher for the boost if your quick, so you at least get the +30 AS bonus.

[[Wall of Thorns (640)]] of great assistance to a TWC ranger, the best defense is having the trees block for you and not getting hit at all.

[[650|Assume aspect (650)]] is custom made for a TWC ranger, allowing you to tweak your form to meet the current threat or boost a weakness. (alternating between rat and wolf for example maintains a boost to your agi/dex)

All Rangers also benefit from a plethora of set up spells that can complement any weapon style, such as [[Sounds (607)]], [[610|Tangle weed (610)]] , [[Call Swarm (615)]] and Sunburst (609) (note the effects vs undead)

TWC rangers will find great use in the [[Minor Spiritual]] spell circle, especially [[Spirit Barrier (102)]] and [[106|Spirit fog (106)]], to provide added defenses. Note that 102 gives a penalty to [[Attack strength|AS]] so you could [[STOP (verb)|STOP 102]], which removes the spell so you can attack without the penalty making for a creative low mana Shield/stance dance option, also breeze will eliminate 106, however that is mana intensive.

==Two Weapon Combat Training==
The introduction of Fix skills and Fix Stats, will allows new rangers to tweak their efforts with great ease. I suggest Maintain your core training, finesse skills/Stats as starting Stats have increased and allow you to gain more your training points while boosting over all stat totals. (this is an entire topic all it's own) (word smith this it isn't sounding right)

===Two Weapon Combat Ranger Core Training===

This is your base training that every two weapon ranger should have each level.

*2x (6/4) [[Combat Maneuvers]]: When points are too tight, you can skip some here if you have to, try to keep singling.
*2x (9/6) [[Two Weapon Combat]]:
*2x (9/3) [[Edged Weapons]] (Blunt weapons can be used, slightly increased training cost, do not over look this if it appeals to your style of ranger)
*1x (4/0) [[Physical Fitness]]: (no shield, you will be getting hit, you need this)
*1x (7/5) [[Dodge]]
*1x (0/5) [[Harness Power]]
*1x (0/17) [[Spell Research]]: (May have to skip spells a few levels until training points work out)
*1x (0/3) [[Perception]]: take higher at cap (if you can single, go for it, I think you will be strapped for points: You can skip this when you need to)
*1x Armor (5/0) Can skip if you have to for points, but you will need armor training and good armor with this build (Aurach's goal was 110 ranks for a chain hauberk and then 170 ranks post cap to reduce maneuver penalties in hauberk)
Total of (40/43)

===TWC Ranger Discreet Training===

These values are plateaus you should strive to reach at some point in your career.

*5 ranks of [[Multi Opponent Combat]] (10/4) as soon as you can fit it in. (30 ranks allows 2 strikes per weapon on a target, 55 ranks allows you to focus mstrike 3 times per weapon on a single target) Reduces effects of being outnumbered.
*50 Ranks in [[Climbing]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make climb checks prior to that.
*50 Ranks in [[Swimming]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make swim checks prior to that.
*[[Spiritual Lore, Blessings]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after Getting 650
*[[Spiritual Lore, Summoning]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after getting 650
(your 1 rank of these two lores gives slight increases in many of your spells, low training point cost boosts, 5 ranks is Blessing lore is very interesting also as it will allow your 117 spirit strike to have a 3% chance to affect two strikes for you being both weapons)

===Spell Research===

My preferred training order: for a two weapon build
601, 101-103, 602-618, 104-107, 619-650, 108-130, Ranger ranks for life 'Aurach Moonshadew'

(other rangers prefer minor spirit 140 and ranger 162 which provides the best CS)

I prefer to get hues, then 101-103, I like having the low mana shield of 102 with this type of character.
After that Mobility is the goal. Then getting deep blues. Then I would head for Aspect.
This is simply my preference looking back on my build.

===Optional Additional Training===

A list of the most common skills to use your additional training points on.

*1x [[Ambush]] when you can fit the ranks in, 1x at cap (more as you feel the need) (I am singled at cap currently and do very well ambushing)
*2x [[Stalking and Hiding]] – If you plan to ambush at cap you will want to 2x this, post cap
*1x-2x [[Survival]] – This will aid skinning, foraging, and overland movement
*1x-2x [[First Aid]] – This will aid in skinning and reduce herb eating RT
*Spiritual Lore: Blessing and Summoning ranger preference, I think it should be gained after ranger spells are maxed, however 5 ranks of blessing lore will allow a 3% chance to have MS117 affect two strikes low chance but is nice when it happens)
*[[Magic Item Use]] I regret not having this 1x earlier. I did it post cap and love it.
*[[Arcane Symbols]] I regret not having this 1x earlier (immediately after MIU).
*15 ranks [[Spiritual Mana Control]] as soon as you learn it is fun to share and play well with others. 15 ranks is enough to share with most Older Spirit mana using folks (25 ranks post cap if you like).

===Post Cap Goals===

*2x Physical Fitness (immediately at cap or earlier)
*2x [[Combat Maneuvers]] (At cap or earlier)
*2x [[Dodge]] (after maxing ranger spells, maybe)
*55 ranks [[Multi-Opponent Combat]] for 6 strikes focused on a single target
[[Thrown Weapons]] may be a very interesting post cap goal, since you will throw both weapons and you already have the required support skill ([[TWC]], [[Perception]], Combat Maneuvers)

[[Blessing Lore ]]

[[Summoning Lore]]

'''[[Combat Maneuver]] skills (mine at cap at moment) Post Cap goals:'''
{|{{prettytable}}
|-style = "background:#DDD; color: blue"
!Skill
!Mnemonic
!Ranks
|-align=center
|[[Cunning Defense]]
|cdefense
|5
|-align=center
|[[Combat Movement]]
|cmovement
|5
|-align=center
|[[Hamstring]]
|hamstring
|5
|-align=center
|[[Disarm Weapon]]
|disarm
|5
|-align=center
|[[Shadow Mastery]]
|smastery
|5
|-align=center
|[[Sweep]]
|sweep
|1
|-align=center
|[[Garrote]]
|garrote
|1
|-align=center
|[[Subdual Strike]]
|sstrike
|1
|}

*TWC rangers will find these useful (order of preference for me was Cdefense, Cmovement, Hamstring, Disarm, Smastery)

This is simply how Aurach trained Combat maneuver skills.

==Race==
I would hope race depends largely on the vision you have for your ranger. That being said, Agility and Dexterity are very important to reduce RT. A race that has strength and can manage encumbrance would also be wise.

==What Armor to use?==
The best armor you can afford.

My advice is Double leather, then Brigandine, then hauberk, for Full body coverage. I like the full body coverage as it allows me to wear arm/leg greaves, helm, and aventails, if I choose with no added penalties. I kept my eye out for enhancives on the added armor pieces. Padding crit or damage is always a good choice if you can afford it.

My cap armor is an imflass chain hauberk, with added helm, arm and leg greaves and aventail, it has 11% hinderance. I find the failure acceptable to my style. Some will not. A paladin for fluidity would be fantastic. I also kept training armor to reduce maneuver penalties. Armor skill is also a secondary skill for redux so serves some double duty.

==Keeping your RT manageable==

You will find the links below for Agi/Dex and Two weapon combat RT. The RT is probably the most confusing part of using two weapons. I say this because from time to time, it does not match the documents. Weapon weights, base speed, Agi/Dex, encumberance, and Character strength all affect your RT. (Assume Aspect, Phoen's Strength, Enhancive items, and Wizard strength will be the greatest help here)

To really enjoy and work the two weapon using ranger. You will need to test various combinations of weapons. Early on you might try short sword and gauche for the gauches added DS when used in off hand. Later on perhaps a long sword/short sword when you want to hit harder and keep RT manageable. Too many weapons to list.

==A Rangers Weapon Sets==
There are many weapons to try. Your ranger will have two or possibly three different sets as he heads out on patrol at certain points in thier career. This is where you get to show your rangers individuality.

My carry weapons at cap are: longsword/shortsword set, two hand axe set, and a dagger set. This is not based on min maxing, it is more a collection of style, effectiveness vs heavy armor, and a couple speed weapons for when encumbered by heaps of treasure and skins.

Do not forget to look at blunt weapons if that is more appealing to you.

I can say, that this will be fun. Try all kinds of cheap sets of weapons to get what feels right.
This will evolve as Stats increase, better enhancive items are acquired, and weapon choice vs armor types are considered

So, what feels right now, may change at various training stages and against different types of armor types (critters).

Feras weapons, Flares, Ensorcellment, Weighting (crit and damage) can all boost your effectiveness. You hit twice as often and good combinations of the previous can add great advantages to your ranger.

https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Edged_Weapons
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Roundtime
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat

==TWC Defenses==

'All about that AS that AS , no defense, it's all about the AS'

Ok, so seriously, defenses as a two weapon using ranger. As usual we have some good options available.

'''TWC Parry DS:''' https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat
I cannot explain it better than is listed.

'''Stances:''' No really there are stances other than OFF and DEF. A good understanding of how you can adjust your stance to maintain adequate defense for the current threat and still provide you with enough offensive punch to down your enemies will really help. Your ranger spells have a great variety to help you to do this.

'''TWC Out Right Parry:''' each weapon will provide a 5% chance to parry incoming melee attacks against like level foes in stance offensive (https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Parry) Assume Aspect:Mantis aids nicely with both weapons chances to parry.

'''Bolt Defenses''': Two Weapon Combat style does not offer good bolt defenses (no shield). So, as a ranger we adapt. The ranger spell list and minor spell list will provide a great amount of assistance to our Bolt DS. I would like to focus on those that you can use to finesse things and make your twc ranger even more protected. Minor Spirit Air wall 102, and Fog 106 can be used as well as seeking areas when hunting that provide natural defenses. Your wall of thorns blocking incoming attacks,(later boosted by Aspect Porcupine), and Evasion/dodge (boosted by serpent) however will all aid you greatly. ''Assume Aspect Mantis with a runestaff will parry bolts/arrows as well. (test it)'' Rotating aspects when mana is not the main issue.

'''NOTE: The following Runestaff comments are for much later down the line but am tossing it in here for reference''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying Bolts and arrows. Test it out if you find the need for more bolt defenses beyond what you get from Wall of Thorns or out right evasion.

'''Evade''' Can be boosted by your Aspect Serpent, I saw a really significant increase here from 21% to 40%.

'''Redux'''

==Runestaff test==
'''NOTE''': Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This Would require runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider.

An 800 bolt attack repitition test with the mage Drafix's assistance has shown my ranger's wall of thorns stopped about 21% of incoming bolt attacks. 24% were then outright evaded (wearing my hauberk or not wearing it was the same due to armor over training), (this increased to 40% evaded with Aspect Serpent running) and then after that 7% were blocked by the runestaff. Giving an over all total of 51%+ to 67% stopped/evaded/parried.

Also, the % was based on bolt spell by like level caster. I believe the Ball spells and Arrows the % to parry are different. And did not do a deep test of those at this time.

The rune staff below is +8 deringo. (a staff with eblade on it would cost next to nothing) (test for this posting was 8 of 20 and 10 of 27) using mantis against ball spells

''Sepher gestures at you''.

Sepher hurls a roaring ball of fire at you!

You deflect the bolt with your runestaff!

''Sepher nocks a dull black wooden arrow fletched with white-spotted falcon feathers in his sephwir long bow.'' (10/35 against arrows)

Sepher fires a dull black arrow at you!

You deflect the arrow with your runestaff!

The arrow disappears into the local environs.

Now I certainly do not expect everyone using TWC to invest in runestaves. But please remember that was 7% of the over all total attacks, not the ones that got past wall of thorns or were evaded outright) the runestaff seemed to parry about 11% of the bolts it had a chance to parry. So, if bolts become an issue, it is something to consider since you already have magical training as a semi and have a Bolt Weakness using Two weapons. You could also pick up a shield and train it post cap. But this utilizes skills you have most likely already trained in.

==Society==

(Anyone want to toss in pro-cons please do so)

Aurach is a member of Voln. Two Weapons against the many non-critable undead has worked rather well.

==recap==
So, this is my thoughts on two weapon using rangers. I will be adding more as thoughts come to me. I find the capped version to be where my character really came into his own. There seemed to be a non-stop struggle to survive when I was hunting early on. But so much has changed since then. I think a two weapon combat ranger at this point would have great strengths right from the beginning.

John mind behind

''Aurach Moonshadew the Gallant, 'two-blader' of Auld Ta'Faendryl''

==See Also==
*[[Ranger]] (main article)
*[[A beginner's guide to playing a ranger]]
http://www.play.net/gs4/info/skills.asp#twoweaponcombat
Evade
Parry

==References==
*[http://www.play.net/gs4/info/professions/rangers.asp Ranger profession on Play.net]

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[[Category:Ranger]]
[[Category:Professional Guides]]

Aurach's Two Weapon Combat Guide: A Ranger's Perspective

2015-02-20T14:52:23Z

SHEN1: /* TWC Defenses */

[[Image:Twcranger.jpg|thumb|Aurach]]

==The Two Weapon Combat Ranger==

The whirling scimitars of Drizzsdt Do'Urden, The 'mountain charge to rescue' in Last of the Mohican's using Hatchet and knife, Lancelot's dual short swords in King Arthur, all bring the vision of our champion, the Two Weapon Combat Ranger. A challenging training path, with strong reliance on attack and speed.

Very few rangers take this path. It is up hill both ways, in the snow, at night, crossing a frigid streams, without boots.

Why are you still reading?

Let me say this one more time. It is very costly in training points, it delays most other skills/spells and you have little bolt defense. You may find training the TWC combat skill and adjusting to this style at cap MUCH easier.

If you are still reading you are probably hard headed enough.

However, other guides have said there is really no 'bad' way to train a ranger. Two weapon combat from a rangers birth is probably really close however.

Good Luck

==Why two weapons?==

Most ambushing rangers and archers can kill with one well placed strike. So too can the two weapon ambushing ranger, but the world has creatures that cannot be critical struck and only massive raw damage will suffice.

Enter our ranger hero, weapon in each hand, spell at the ready. 'Guts, 'Glory, 'Aspects'

For me the style has always been about using your magics and blades together. This is really not a stand in the open and get beat on type of style. You can do that however. I prefer the use of good timing, and a rather large variety of spells to maneuver your opponents into situations favorable to you.

Your greatest strength is your variety of magics, combat maneuver skills, and weapons combined.

From the skills and stats a Ranger can be a very good two weapon user. Great spirit warding, good variety of spells, low costs to train a variety of skills, some of the best attack spells for a semi, great defensive spells all make for a really versatile and easily adjustable character.

While not recommended to try from early on, this style when combined with ambushing and Multi Opponent Combat is absolutely devastating.

==Ranger Spells==
The ranger spell list provides some unique benefits for TWC rangers, both directly and indirectly.

[[606|Phoen's strength (606)]] gives a phantom increase of +10 to [[Strength|strength]] bonus. Strength is incredibly important to keep RT down (encumbrance really affects the left hand weapon).

[[Mobility (618)]] offers a large bonus to Dodge, a TWC rangers primary defense

[[Camouflage (608)]] a +30 AS bonus from camouflage for multiple attacks. Yes both weapons get the bonus from a ranger leaping to ambush or 'plain attacking' from a camo 608 position, so this can be used by non ambusher for the boost if your quick, so you at least get the +30 AS bonus.

[[Wall of Thorns (640)]] of great assistance to a TWC ranger, the best defense is having the trees block for you and not getting hit at all.

[[650|Assume aspect (650)]] is custom made for a TWC ranger, allowing you to tweak your form to meet the current threat or boost a weakness. (alternating between rat and wolf for example maintains a boost to your agi/dex)

All Rangers also benefit from a plethora of set up spells that can complement any weapon style, such as [[Sounds (607)]], [[610|Tangle weed (610)]] , [[Call Swarm (615)]] and Sunburst (609) (note the effects vs undead)

TWC rangers will find great use in the [[Minor Spiritual]] spell circle, especially [[Spirit Barrier (102)]] and [[106|Spirit fog (106)]], to provide added defenses. Note that 102 gives a penalty to [[Attack strength|AS]] so you could [[STOP (verb)|STOP 102]], which removes the spell so you can attack without the penalty making for a creative low mana Shield/stance dance option, also breeze will eliminate 106, however that is mana intensive.

==Two Weapon Combat Training==
The introduction of Fix skills and Fix Stats, will allows new rangers to tweak their efforts with great ease. I suggest Maintain your core training, finesse skills/Stats as starting Stats have increased and allow you to gain more your training points while boosting over all stat totals. (this is an entire topic all it's own) (word smith this it isn't sounding right)

===Two Weapon Combat Ranger Core Training===

This is your base training that every two weapon ranger should have each level.

*2x (6/4) [[Combat Maneuvers]]: When points are too tight, you can skip some here if you have to, try to keep singling.
*2x (9/6) [[Two Weapon Combat]]:
*2x (9/3) [[Edged Weapons]] (Blunt weapons can be used, slightly increased training cost, do not over look this if it appeals to your style of ranger)
*1x (4/0) [[Physical Fitness]]: (no shield, you will be getting hit, you need this)
*1x (7/5) [[Dodge]]
*1x (0/5) [[Harness Power]]
*1x (0/17) [[Spell Research]]: (May have to skip spells a few levels until training points work out)
*1x (0/3) [[Perception]]: take higher at cap (if you can single, go for it, I think you will be strapped for points: You can skip this when you need to)
*1x Armor (5/0) Can skip if you have to for points, but you will need armor training and good armor with this build (Aurach's goal was 110 ranks for a chain hauberk and then 170 ranks post cap to reduce maneuver penalties in hauberk)
Total of (40/43)

===TWC Ranger Discreet Training===

These values are plateaus you should strive to reach at some point in your career.

*5 ranks of [[Multi Opponent Combat]] (10/4) as soon as you can fit it in. (30 ranks allows 2 strikes per weapon on a target, 55 ranks allows you to focus mstrike 3 times per weapon on a single target) Reduces effects of being outnumbered.
*50 Ranks in [[Climbing]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make climb checks prior to that.
*50 Ranks in [[Swimming]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make swim checks prior to that.
*[[Spiritual Lore, Blessings]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after Getting 650
*[[Spiritual Lore, Summoning]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after getting 650
(your 1 rank of these two lores gives slight increases in many of your spells, low training point cost boosts, 5 ranks is Blessing lore is very interesting also as it will allow your 117 spirit strike to have a 3% chance to affect two strikes for you being both weapons)

===Spell Research===

My preferred training order: for a two weapon build
601, 101-103, 602-618, 104-107, 619-650, 108-130, Ranger ranks for life 'Aurach Moonshadew'

(other rangers prefer minor spirit 140 and ranger 162 which provides the best CS)

I prefer to get hues, then 101-103, I like having the low mana shield of 102 with this type of character.
After that Mobility is the goal. Then getting deep blues. Then I would head for Aspect.
This is simply my preference looking back on my build.

===Optional Additional Training===

A list of the most common skills to use your additional training points on.

*1x [[Ambush]] when you can fit the ranks in, 1x at cap (more as you feel the need) (I am singled at cap currently and do very well ambushing)
*2x [[Stalking and Hiding]] – If you plan to ambush at cap you will want to 2x this, post cap
*1x-2x [[Survival]] – This will aid skinning, foraging, and overland movement
*1x-2x [[First Aid]] – This will aid in skinning and reduce herb eating RT
*Spiritual Lore: Blessing and Summoning ranger preference, I think it should be gained after ranger spells are maxed, however 5 ranks of blessing lore will allow a 3% chance to have MS117 affect two strikes low chance but is nice when it happens)
*[[Magic Item Use]] I regret not having this 1x earlier. I did it post cap and love it.
*[[Arcane Symbols]] I regret not having this 1x earlier (immediately after MIU).
*15 ranks [[Spiritual Mana Control]] as soon as you learn it is fun to share and play well with others. 15 ranks is enough to share with most Older Spirit mana using folks (25 ranks post cap if you like).

===Post Cap Goals===

*2x Physical Fitness (immediately at cap or earlier)
*2x [[Combat Maneuvers]] (At cap or earlier)
*2x [[Dodge]] (after maxing ranger spells, maybe)
*55 ranks [[Multi-Opponent Combat]] for 6 strikes focused on a single target
[[Thrown Weapons]] may be a very interesting post cap goal, since you will throw both weapons and you already have the required support skill ([[TWC]], [[Perception]], Combat Maneuvers)

[[Blessing Lore ]]

[[Summoning Lore]]

'''[[Combat Maneuver]] skills (mine at cap at moment) Post Cap goals:'''
{|{{prettytable}}
|-style = "background:#DDD; color: blue"
!Skill
!Mnemonic
!Ranks
|-align=center
|[[Cunning Defense]]
|cdefense
|5
|-align=center
|[[Combat Movement]]
|cmovement
|5
|-align=center
|[[Hamstring]]
|hamstring
|5
|-align=center
|[[Disarm Weapon]]
|disarm
|5
|-align=center
|[[Shadow Mastery]]
|smastery
|5
|-align=center
|[[Sweep]]
|sweep
|1
|-align=center
|[[Garrote]]
|garrote
|1
|-align=center
|[[Subdual Strike]]
|sstrike
|1
|}

*TWC rangers will find these useful (order of preference for me was Cdefense, Cmovement, Hamstring, Disarm, Smastery)

This is simply how Aurach trained Combat maneuver skills.

==Race==
I would hope race depends largely on the vision you have for your ranger. That being said, Agility and Dexterity are very important to reduce RT. A race that has strength and can manage encumbrance would also be wise.

==What Armor to use?==
The best armor you can afford.

My advice is Double leather, then Brigandine, then hauberk, for Full body coverage. I like the full body coverage as it allows me to wear arm/leg greaves, helm, and aventails, if I choose with no added penalties. I kept my eye out for enhancives on the added armor pieces. Padding crit or damage is always a good choice if you can afford it.

My cap armor is an imflass chain hauberk, with added helm, arm and leg greaves and aventail, it has 11% hinderance. I find the failure acceptable to my style. Some will not. A paladin for fluidity would be fantastic. I also kept training armor to reduce maneuver penalties. Armor skill is also a secondary skill for redux so serves some double duty.

==Keeping your RT manageable==

You will find the links below for Agi/Dex and Two weapon combat RT. The RT is probably the most confusing part of using two weapons. I say this because from time to time, it does not match the documents. Weapon weights, base speed, Agi/Dex, encumberance, and Character strength all affect your RT. (Assume Aspect, Phoen's Strength, Enhancive items, and Wizard strength will be the greatest help here)

To really enjoy and work the two weapon using ranger. You will need to test various combinations of weapons. Early on you might try short sword and gauche for the gauches added DS when used in off hand. Later on perhaps a long sword/short sword when you want to hit harder and keep RT manageable. Too many weapons to list.

==A Rangers Weapon Sets==
There are many weapons to try. Your ranger will have two or possibly three different sets as he heads out on patrol at certain points in thier career. This is where you get to show your rangers individuality.

My carry weapons at cap are: longsword/shortsword set, two hand axe set, and a dagger set. This is not based on min maxing, it is more a collection of style, effectiveness vs heavy armor, and a couple speed weapons for when encumbered by heaps of treasure and skins.

Do not forget to look at blunt weapons if that is more appealing to you.

I can say, that this will be fun. Try all kinds of cheap sets of weapons to get what feels right.
This will evolve as Stats increase, better enhancive items are acquired, and weapon choice vs armor types are considered

So, what feels right now, may change at various training stages and against different types of armor types (critters).

Feras weapons, Flares, Ensorcellment, Weighting (crit and damage) can all boost your effectiveness. You hit twice as often and good combinations of the previous can add great advantages to your ranger.

https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Edged_Weapons
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Roundtime
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat

==TWC Defenses==

'All about that AS that AS , no defense, it's all about the AS'

Ok, so seriously, defenses as a two weapon using ranger. As usual we have some good options available.

'''TWC Parry DS:''' https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat
I cannot explain it better than is listed.

'''Stances:''' No really there are stances other than OFF and DEF. A good understanding of how you can adjust your stance to maintain adequate defense for the current threat and still provide you with enough offensive punch to down your enemies will really help. Your ranger spells have a great variety to help you to do this.

'''TWC Out Right Parry:''' each weapon will provide a 5% chance to parry incoming melee attacks against like level foes in stance offensive (https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Parry) Assume Aspect:Mantis aids nicely with both weapons chances to parry.

'''Bolt Defenses''': Two Weapon Combat style does not offer good bolt defenses (no shield). So, as a ranger we adapt. The ranger spell list and minor spell list will provide a great amount of assistance to our Bolt DS. I would like to focus on those that you can use to finesse things and make your twc ranger even more protected. Minor Spirit Air wall 102, and Fog 106 can be used as well as seeking areas when hunting that provide natural defenses. Your wall of thorns blocking incoming attacks,(later boosted by Aspect Porcupine), and Evasion/dodge (boosted by serpent) however will all aid you greatly. ''Assume Aspect Mantis with a runestaff will parry bolts/arrows as well. (test it)'' Rotating aspects when mana is not the main issue.

'''NOTE: The following Runestaff comments are for much later down the line but am tossing it in here for reference''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying Bolts and arrows. Test it out if you find the need for more bolt defenses beyond what you get from Wall of Thorns or out right evasion.

'''Evade''' Can be boosted by your Aspect Serpent, I saw a really significant increase here from 21% to 40%.

'''Redux'''

==Runestaff test==
'''NOTE''': Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This Would require runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider.

An 800 bolt attack repitition test with the mage Drafix's assistance has shown my ranger's wall of thorns stopped about 21% of incoming bolt attacks. 24% were then outright evaded (wearing my hauberk or not wearing it was the same due to armor over training), (this increased to 40% evaded with Aspect Serpent running) and then after that 7% were blocked by the runestaff. Giving an over all total of 51%+ to 67% stopped/evaded/parried.

Also, the % was based on bolt spell by like level caster. I believe the Ball spells and Arrows the % to parry are different. And did not do a deep test of those at this time.

The rune staff below is +8 deringo. (a staff with eblade on it would cost next to nothing) (test for this posting was 8 of 20 and 10 of 27) using mantis against ball spells

''Sepher gestures at you''.

Sepher hurls a roaring ball of fire at you!

You deflect the bolt with your runestaff!

''Sepher nocks a dull black wooden arrow fletched with white-spotted falcon feathers in his sephwir long bow.'' (10/35 against arrows)

Sepher fires a dull black arrow at you!

You deflect the arrow with your runestaff!

The arrow disappears into the local environs.

Now I certainly do not expect everyone using TWC to invest in runestaves. But please remember that was 7% of the over all total attacks, not the ones that got past wall of thorns or were evaded outright) the runestaff seemed to parry about 11% of the bolts it had a chance to parry. So, if bolts become an issue, it is something to consider since you already have magical training as a semi and have a Bolt Weakness using Two weapons. You could also pick up a shield and train it post cap. But this utilizes skills you have most likely already trained in.

==Society==

(Anyone want to toss in pro-cons please do so)

Aurach is a member of Voln. Two Weapons against the many non-critable undead has worked rather well.

==recap==
So, this is my thoughts on two weapon using rangers. I will be adding more as thoughts come to me. I find the capped version to be where my character really came into his own. There seemed to be a non-stop struggle to survive when I was hunting early on. But so much has changed since then. I think a two weapon combat ranger at this point would have great strengths right from the beginning.

John mind behind

''Aurach Moonshadew the Gallant, 'two-blader' of Auld Ta'Faendryl''

==See Also==
*[[Ranger]] (main article)
*[[A beginner's guide to playing a ranger]]
http://www.play.net/gs4/info/skills.asp#twoweaponcombat
Evade
Parry

==References==
*[http://www.play.net/gs4/info/professions/rangers.asp Ranger profession on Play.net]

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Aurach's Two Weapon Combat Guide: A Ranger's Perspective

2015-02-20T14:18:53Z

SHEN1: /* Two Weapon Combat Ranger Core Training */

[[Image:Twcranger.jpg|thumb|Aurach]]

==The Two Weapon Combat Ranger==

The whirling scimitars of Drizzsdt Do'Urden, The 'mountain charge to rescue' in Last of the Mohican's using Hatchet and knife, Lancelot's dual short swords in King Arthur, all bring the vision of our champion, the Two Weapon Combat Ranger. A challenging training path, with strong reliance on attack and speed.

Very few rangers take this path. It is up hill both ways, in the snow, at night, crossing a frigid streams, without boots.

Why are you still reading?

Let me say this one more time. It is very costly in training points, it delays most other skills/spells and you have little bolt defense. You may find training the TWC combat skill and adjusting to this style at cap MUCH easier.

If you are still reading you are probably hard headed enough.

However, other guides have said there is really no 'bad' way to train a ranger. Two weapon combat from a rangers birth is probably really close however.

Good Luck

==Why two weapons?==

Most ambushing rangers and archers can kill with one well placed strike. So too can the two weapon ambushing ranger, but the world has creatures that cannot be critical struck and only massive raw damage will suffice.

Enter our ranger hero, weapon in each hand, spell at the ready. 'Guts, 'Glory, 'Aspects'

For me the style has always been about using your magics and blades together. This is really not a stand in the open and get beat on type of style. You can do that however. I prefer the use of good timing, and a rather large variety of spells to maneuver your opponents into situations favorable to you.

Your greatest strength is your variety of magics, combat maneuver skills, and weapons combined.

From the skills and stats a Ranger can be a very good two weapon user. Great spirit warding, good variety of spells, low costs to train a variety of skills, some of the best attack spells for a semi, great defensive spells all make for a really versatile and easily adjustable character.

While not recommended to try from early on, this style when combined with ambushing and Multi Opponent Combat is absolutely devastating.

==Ranger Spells==
The ranger spell list provides some unique benefits for TWC rangers, both directly and indirectly.

[[606|Phoen's strength (606)]] gives a phantom increase of +10 to [[Strength|strength]] bonus. Strength is incredibly important to keep RT down (encumbrance really affects the left hand weapon).

[[Mobility (618)]] offers a large bonus to Dodge, a TWC rangers primary defense

[[Camouflage (608)]] a +30 AS bonus from camouflage for multiple attacks. Yes both weapons get the bonus from a ranger leaping to ambush or 'plain attacking' from a camo 608 position, so this can be used by non ambusher for the boost if your quick, so you at least get the +30 AS bonus.

[[Wall of Thorns (640)]] of great assistance to a TWC ranger, the best defense is having the trees block for you and not getting hit at all.

[[650|Assume aspect (650)]] is custom made for a TWC ranger, allowing you to tweak your form to meet the current threat or boost a weakness. (alternating between rat and wolf for example maintains a boost to your agi/dex)

All Rangers also benefit from a plethora of set up spells that can complement any weapon style, such as [[Sounds (607)]], [[610|Tangle weed (610)]] , [[Call Swarm (615)]] and Sunburst (609) (note the effects vs undead)

TWC rangers will find great use in the [[Minor Spiritual]] spell circle, especially [[Spirit Barrier (102)]] and [[106|Spirit fog (106)]], to provide added defenses. Note that 102 gives a penalty to [[Attack strength|AS]] so you could [[STOP (verb)|STOP 102]], which removes the spell so you can attack without the penalty making for a creative low mana Shield/stance dance option, also breeze will eliminate 106, however that is mana intensive.

==Two Weapon Combat Training==
The introduction of Fix skills and Fix Stats, will allows new rangers to tweak their efforts with great ease. I suggest Maintain your core training, finesse skills/Stats as starting Stats have increased and allow you to gain more your training points while boosting over all stat totals. (this is an entire topic all it's own) (word smith this it isn't sounding right)

===Two Weapon Combat Ranger Core Training===

This is your base training that every two weapon ranger should have each level.

*2x (6/4) [[Combat Maneuvers]]: When points are too tight, you can skip some here if you have to, try to keep singling.
*2x (9/6) [[Two Weapon Combat]]:
*2x (9/3) [[Edged Weapons]] (Blunt weapons can be used, slightly increased training cost, do not over look this if it appeals to your style of ranger)
*1x (4/0) [[Physical Fitness]]: (no shield, you will be getting hit, you need this)
*1x (7/5) [[Dodge]]
*1x (0/5) [[Harness Power]]
*1x (0/17) [[Spell Research]]: (May have to skip spells a few levels until training points work out)
*1x (0/3) [[Perception]]: take higher at cap (if you can single, go for it, I think you will be strapped for points: You can skip this when you need to)
*1x Armor (5/0) Can skip if you have to for points, but you will need armor training and good armor with this build (Aurach's goal was 110 ranks for a chain hauberk and then 170 ranks post cap to reduce maneuver penalties in hauberk)
Total of (40/43)

===TWC Ranger Discreet Training===

These values are plateaus you should strive to reach at some point in your career.

*5 ranks of [[Multi Opponent Combat]] (10/4) as soon as you can fit it in. (30 ranks allows 2 strikes per weapon on a target, 55 ranks allows you to focus mstrike 3 times per weapon on a single target) Reduces effects of being outnumbered.
*50 Ranks in [[Climbing]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make climb checks prior to that.
*50 Ranks in [[Swimming]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make swim checks prior to that.
*[[Spiritual Lore, Blessings]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after Getting 650
*[[Spiritual Lore, Summoning]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after getting 650
(your 1 rank of these two lores gives slight increases in many of your spells, low training point cost boosts, 5 ranks is Blessing lore is very interesting also as it will allow your 117 spirit strike to have a 3% chance to affect two strikes for you being both weapons)

===Spell Research===

My preferred training order: for a two weapon build
601, 101-103, 602-618, 104-107, 619-650, 108-130, Ranger ranks for life 'Aurach Moonshadew'

(other rangers prefer minor spirit 140 and ranger 162 which provides the best CS)

I prefer to get hues, then 101-103, I like having the low mana shield of 102 with this type of character.
After that Mobility is the goal. Then getting deep blues. Then I would head for Aspect.
This is simply my preference looking back on my build.

===Optional Additional Training===

A list of the most common skills to use your additional training points on.

*1x [[Ambush]] when you can fit the ranks in, 1x at cap (more as you feel the need) (I am singled at cap currently and do very well ambushing)
*2x [[Stalking and Hiding]] – If you plan to ambush at cap you will want to 2x this, post cap
*1x-2x [[Survival]] – This will aid skinning, foraging, and overland movement
*1x-2x [[First Aid]] – This will aid in skinning and reduce herb eating RT
*Spiritual Lore: Blessing and Summoning ranger preference, I think it should be gained after ranger spells are maxed, however 5 ranks of blessing lore will allow a 3% chance to have MS117 affect two strikes low chance but is nice when it happens)
*[[Magic Item Use]] I regret not having this 1x earlier. I did it post cap and love it.
*[[Arcane Symbols]] I regret not having this 1x earlier (immediately after MIU).
*15 ranks [[Spiritual Mana Control]] as soon as you learn it is fun to share and play well with others. 15 ranks is enough to share with most Older Spirit mana using folks (25 ranks post cap if you like).

===Post Cap Goals===

*2x Physical Fitness (immediately at cap or earlier)
*2x [[Combat Maneuvers]] (At cap or earlier)
*2x [[Dodge]] (after maxing ranger spells, maybe)
*55 ranks [[Multi-Opponent Combat]] for 6 strikes focused on a single target
[[Thrown Weapons]] may be a very interesting post cap goal, since you will throw both weapons and you already have the required support skill ([[TWC]], [[Perception]], Combat Maneuvers)

[[Blessing Lore ]]

[[Summoning Lore]]

'''[[Combat Maneuver]] skills (mine at cap at moment) Post Cap goals:'''
{|{{prettytable}}
|-style = "background:#DDD; color: blue"
!Skill
!Mnemonic
!Ranks
|-align=center
|[[Cunning Defense]]
|cdefense
|5
|-align=center
|[[Combat Movement]]
|cmovement
|5
|-align=center
|[[Hamstring]]
|hamstring
|5
|-align=center
|[[Disarm Weapon]]
|disarm
|5
|-align=center
|[[Shadow Mastery]]
|smastery
|5
|-align=center
|[[Sweep]]
|sweep
|1
|-align=center
|[[Garrote]]
|garrote
|1
|-align=center
|[[Subdual Strike]]
|sstrike
|1
|}

*TWC rangers will find these useful (order of preference for me was Cdefense, Cmovement, Hamstring, Disarm, Smastery)

This is simply how Aurach trained Combat maneuver skills.

==Race==
I would hope race depends largely on the vision you have for your ranger. That being said, Agility and Dexterity are very important to reduce RT. A race that has strength and can manage encumbrance would also be wise.

==What Armor to use?==
The best armor you can afford.

My advice is Double leather, then Brigandine, then hauberk, for Full body coverage. I like the full body coverage as it allows me to wear arm/leg greaves, helm, and aventails, if I choose with no added penalties. I kept my eye out for enhancives on the added armor pieces. Padding crit or damage is always a good choice if you can afford it.

My cap armor is an imflass chain hauberk, with added helm, arm and leg greaves and aventail, it has 11% hinderance. I find the failure acceptable to my style. Some will not. A paladin for fluidity would be fantastic. I also kept training armor to reduce maneuver penalties. Armor skill is also a secondary skill for redux so serves some double duty.

==Keeping your RT manageable==

You will find the links below for Agi/Dex and Two weapon combat RT. The RT is probably the most confusing part of using two weapons. I say this because from time to time, it does not match the documents. Weapon weights, base speed, Agi/Dex, encumberance, and Character strength all affect your RT. (Assume Aspect, Phoen's Strength, Enhancive items, and Wizard strength will be the greatest help here)

To really enjoy and work the two weapon using ranger. You will need to test various combinations of weapons. Early on you might try short sword and gauche for the gauches added DS when used in off hand. Later on perhaps a long sword/short sword when you want to hit harder and keep RT manageable. Too many weapons to list.

==A Rangers Weapon Sets==
There are many weapons to try. Your ranger will have two or possibly three different sets as he heads out on patrol at certain points in thier career. This is where you get to show your rangers individuality.

My carry weapons at cap are: longsword/shortsword set, two hand axe set, and a dagger set. This is not based on min maxing, it is more a collection of style, effectiveness vs heavy armor, and a couple speed weapons for when encumbered by heaps of treasure and skins.

Do not forget to look at blunt weapons if that is more appealing to you.

I can say, that this will be fun. Try all kinds of cheap sets of weapons to get what feels right.
This will evolve as Stats increase, better enhancive items are acquired, and weapon choice vs armor types are considered

So, what feels right now, may change at various training stages and against different types of armor types (critters).

Feras weapons, Flares, Ensorcellment, Weighting (crit and damage) can all boost your effectiveness. You hit twice as often and good combinations of the previous can add great advantages to your ranger.

https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Edged_Weapons
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Roundtime
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat

==TWC Defenses==

'All about that AS that AS , no defense, it's all about the AS'

Ok, so seriously, defenses as a two weapon using ranger. As usual we have some good options available.

'''TWC Parry DS:''' https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat
I cannot explain it better than is listed.

'''Stances:''' No really there are stances other than OFF and DEF. A good understanding of how you can adjust your stance to maintain adequate defense for the current threat and still provide you with enough offensive punch to down your enemies will really help. Your ranger spells have a great variety to help you to do this.

'''TWC Out Right Parry:''' each weapon will provide a 5% chance to parry incoming melee attacks against like level foes in stance offensive (https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Parry) Assume Aspect:Mantis aids nicely with both weapons chances to parry.

'''Bolt Defenses''': Two Weapon Combat style does not offer good bolt defenses (no shield). So, as a ranger we adapt. The ranger spell list and minor spell list will provide a great amount of assistance to our Bolt DS. I would like to focus on those that you can use to finesse things and make your twc ranger even more protected. Minor Spirit Air wall 102, and Fog 106 can be used as well as seeking areas when hunting that provide natural defenses. Your wall of thorns blocking incoming attacks,(later boosted by Aspect Porcupine), and Evasion/dodge (boosted by serpent) however will all aid you greatly. ''Assume Aspect Mantis with a runestaff will parry bolts/arrows as well. (test it)'' Rotating aspects when mana is not the main issue.

'''NOTE: The following Runestaff comments are for much later down the line but am tossing it in here for reference''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying Bolts and arrows. Test it out if you find the need for more bolt defenses beyond what you get from Wall of Thorns or out right evasion.

'''Evade''' Can be boosted by your Aspect Serpent, I saw a really significant increase here from 21% to 40%.

==Runestaff test==
'''NOTE''': Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This Would require runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider.

An 800 bolt attack repitition test with the mage Drafix's assistance has shown my ranger's wall of thorns stopped about 21% of incoming bolt attacks. 24% were then outright evaded (wearing my hauberk or not wearing it was the same due to armor over training), (this increased to 40% evaded with Aspect Serpent running) and then after that 7% were blocked by the runestaff. Giving an over all total of 51%+ to 67% stopped/evaded/parried.

Also, the % was based on bolt spell by like level caster. I believe the Ball spells and Arrows the % to parry are different. And did not do a deep test of those at this time.

The rune staff below is +8 deringo. (a staff with eblade on it would cost next to nothing) (test for this posting was 8 of 20 and 10 of 27) using mantis against ball spells

''Sepher gestures at you''.

Sepher hurls a roaring ball of fire at you!

You deflect the bolt with your runestaff!

''Sepher nocks a dull black wooden arrow fletched with white-spotted falcon feathers in his sephwir long bow.'' (10/35 against arrows)

Sepher fires a dull black arrow at you!

You deflect the arrow with your runestaff!

The arrow disappears into the local environs.

Now I certainly do not expect everyone using TWC to invest in runestaves. But please remember that was 7% of the over all total attacks, not the ones that got past wall of thorns or were evaded outright) the runestaff seemed to parry about 11% of the bolts it had a chance to parry. So, if bolts become an issue, it is something to consider since you already have magical training as a semi and have a Bolt Weakness using Two weapons. You could also pick up a shield and train it post cap. But this utilizes skills you have most likely already trained in.

==Society==

(Anyone want to toss in pro-cons please do so)

Aurach is a member of Voln. Two Weapons against the many non-critable undead has worked rather well.

==recap==
So, this is my thoughts on two weapon using rangers. I will be adding more as thoughts come to me. I find the capped version to be where my character really came into his own. There seemed to be a non-stop struggle to survive when I was hunting early on. But so much has changed since then. I think a two weapon combat ranger at this point would have great strengths right from the beginning.

John mind behind

''Aurach Moonshadew the Gallant, 'two-blader' of Auld Ta'Faendryl''

==See Also==
*[[Ranger]] (main article)
*[[A beginner's guide to playing a ranger]]
http://www.play.net/gs4/info/skills.asp#twoweaponcombat
Evade
Parry

==References==
*[http://www.play.net/gs4/info/professions/rangers.asp Ranger profession on Play.net]

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[[Category:Professional Guides]]

Aurach's Two Weapon Combat Guide: A Ranger's Perspective

2015-02-20T14:18:29Z

SHEN1: /* TWC Ranger Discreet Training */

[[Image:Twcranger.jpg|thumb|Aurach]]

==The Two Weapon Combat Ranger==

The whirling scimitars of Drizzsdt Do'Urden, The 'mountain charge to rescue' in Last of the Mohican's using Hatchet and knife, Lancelot's dual short swords in King Arthur, all bring the vision of our champion, the Two Weapon Combat Ranger. A challenging training path, with strong reliance on attack and speed.

Very few rangers take this path. It is up hill both ways, in the snow, at night, crossing a frigid streams, without boots.

Why are you still reading?

Let me say this one more time. It is very costly in training points, it delays most other skills/spells and you have little bolt defense. You may find training the TWC combat skill and adjusting to this style at cap MUCH easier.

If you are still reading you are probably hard headed enough.

However, other guides have said there is really no 'bad' way to train a ranger. Two weapon combat from a rangers birth is probably really close however.

Good Luck

==Why two weapons?==

Most ambushing rangers and archers can kill with one well placed strike. So too can the two weapon ambushing ranger, but the world has creatures that cannot be critical struck and only massive raw damage will suffice.

Enter our ranger hero, weapon in each hand, spell at the ready. 'Guts, 'Glory, 'Aspects'

For me the style has always been about using your magics and blades together. This is really not a stand in the open and get beat on type of style. You can do that however. I prefer the use of good timing, and a rather large variety of spells to maneuver your opponents into situations favorable to you.

Your greatest strength is your variety of magics, combat maneuver skills, and weapons combined.

From the skills and stats a Ranger can be a very good two weapon user. Great spirit warding, good variety of spells, low costs to train a variety of skills, some of the best attack spells for a semi, great defensive spells all make for a really versatile and easily adjustable character.

While not recommended to try from early on, this style when combined with ambushing and Multi Opponent Combat is absolutely devastating.

==Ranger Spells==
The ranger spell list provides some unique benefits for TWC rangers, both directly and indirectly.

[[606|Phoen's strength (606)]] gives a phantom increase of +10 to [[Strength|strength]] bonus. Strength is incredibly important to keep RT down (encumbrance really affects the left hand weapon).

[[Mobility (618)]] offers a large bonus to Dodge, a TWC rangers primary defense

[[Camouflage (608)]] a +30 AS bonus from camouflage for multiple attacks. Yes both weapons get the bonus from a ranger leaping to ambush or 'plain attacking' from a camo 608 position, so this can be used by non ambusher for the boost if your quick, so you at least get the +30 AS bonus.

[[Wall of Thorns (640)]] of great assistance to a TWC ranger, the best defense is having the trees block for you and not getting hit at all.

[[650|Assume aspect (650)]] is custom made for a TWC ranger, allowing you to tweak your form to meet the current threat or boost a weakness. (alternating between rat and wolf for example maintains a boost to your agi/dex)

All Rangers also benefit from a plethora of set up spells that can complement any weapon style, such as [[Sounds (607)]], [[610|Tangle weed (610)]] , [[Call Swarm (615)]] and Sunburst (609) (note the effects vs undead)

TWC rangers will find great use in the [[Minor Spiritual]] spell circle, especially [[Spirit Barrier (102)]] and [[106|Spirit fog (106)]], to provide added defenses. Note that 102 gives a penalty to [[Attack strength|AS]] so you could [[STOP (verb)|STOP 102]], which removes the spell so you can attack without the penalty making for a creative low mana Shield/stance dance option, also breeze will eliminate 106, however that is mana intensive.

==Two Weapon Combat Training==
The introduction of Fix skills and Fix Stats, will allows new rangers to tweak their efforts with great ease. I suggest Maintain your core training, finesse skills/Stats as starting Stats have increased and allow you to gain more your training points while boosting over all stat totals. (this is an entire topic all it's own) (word smith this it isn't sounding right)

===Two Weapon Combat Ranger Core Training===

This is your base training that every two weapon ranger should have each level.

*2x (6/4) [[Combat Maneuvers]]: When points are too tight, you can skip some here if you have to, try to keep singling.
*2x (9/6) [[Two Weapon Combat]]:
*2x (9/3) [[Edged Weapons]] (Blunt weapons can be used, slightly increased training cost, do not over look this if it appeals to your style of ranger)
*1x (4/0) [[Physical Fitness]]: (no shield, you will be getting hit, you need this)
*1x (7/5) [[Dodge]]
*1x (0/5) [[Harness Power]]
*1x (0/17) [[Spell Research]]: (May have to skip spells a few levels until training points work out)
*1x (0/3) [[Perception]]: take higher at cap (if you can single, go for it, I think you will be strapped for points: You can skip this when you need to)
*1x Armor (5/0) Can skip if you have to for points, but you will need armor training and good armor with this build
Total of (40/43)

===TWC Ranger Discreet Training===

These values are plateaus you should strive to reach at some point in your career.

*5 ranks of [[Multi Opponent Combat]] (10/4) as soon as you can fit it in. (30 ranks allows 2 strikes per weapon on a target, 55 ranks allows you to focus mstrike 3 times per weapon on a single target) Reduces effects of being outnumbered.
*50 Ranks in [[Climbing]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make climb checks prior to that.
*50 Ranks in [[Swimming]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make swim checks prior to that.
*[[Spiritual Lore, Blessings]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after Getting 650
*[[Spiritual Lore, Summoning]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after getting 650
(your 1 rank of these two lores gives slight increases in many of your spells, low training point cost boosts, 5 ranks is Blessing lore is very interesting also as it will allow your 117 spirit strike to have a 3% chance to affect two strikes for you being both weapons)

===Spell Research===

My preferred training order: for a two weapon build
601, 101-103, 602-618, 104-107, 619-650, 108-130, Ranger ranks for life 'Aurach Moonshadew'

(other rangers prefer minor spirit 140 and ranger 162 which provides the best CS)

I prefer to get hues, then 101-103, I like having the low mana shield of 102 with this type of character.
After that Mobility is the goal. Then getting deep blues. Then I would head for Aspect.
This is simply my preference looking back on my build.

===Optional Additional Training===

A list of the most common skills to use your additional training points on.

*1x [[Ambush]] when you can fit the ranks in, 1x at cap (more as you feel the need) (I am singled at cap currently and do very well ambushing)
*2x [[Stalking and Hiding]] – If you plan to ambush at cap you will want to 2x this, post cap
*1x-2x [[Survival]] – This will aid skinning, foraging, and overland movement
*1x-2x [[First Aid]] – This will aid in skinning and reduce herb eating RT
*Spiritual Lore: Blessing and Summoning ranger preference, I think it should be gained after ranger spells are maxed, however 5 ranks of blessing lore will allow a 3% chance to have MS117 affect two strikes low chance but is nice when it happens)
*[[Magic Item Use]] I regret not having this 1x earlier. I did it post cap and love it.
*[[Arcane Symbols]] I regret not having this 1x earlier (immediately after MIU).
*15 ranks [[Spiritual Mana Control]] as soon as you learn it is fun to share and play well with others. 15 ranks is enough to share with most Older Spirit mana using folks (25 ranks post cap if you like).

===Post Cap Goals===

*2x Physical Fitness (immediately at cap or earlier)
*2x [[Combat Maneuvers]] (At cap or earlier)
*2x [[Dodge]] (after maxing ranger spells, maybe)
*55 ranks [[Multi-Opponent Combat]] for 6 strikes focused on a single target
[[Thrown Weapons]] may be a very interesting post cap goal, since you will throw both weapons and you already have the required support skill ([[TWC]], [[Perception]], Combat Maneuvers)

[[Blessing Lore ]]

[[Summoning Lore]]

'''[[Combat Maneuver]] skills (mine at cap at moment) Post Cap goals:'''
{|{{prettytable}}
|-style = "background:#DDD; color: blue"
!Skill
!Mnemonic
!Ranks
|-align=center
|[[Cunning Defense]]
|cdefense
|5
|-align=center
|[[Combat Movement]]
|cmovement
|5
|-align=center
|[[Hamstring]]
|hamstring
|5
|-align=center
|[[Disarm Weapon]]
|disarm
|5
|-align=center
|[[Shadow Mastery]]
|smastery
|5
|-align=center
|[[Sweep]]
|sweep
|1
|-align=center
|[[Garrote]]
|garrote
|1
|-align=center
|[[Subdual Strike]]
|sstrike
|1
|}

*TWC rangers will find these useful (order of preference for me was Cdefense, Cmovement, Hamstring, Disarm, Smastery)

This is simply how Aurach trained Combat maneuver skills.

==Race==
I would hope race depends largely on the vision you have for your ranger. That being said, Agility and Dexterity are very important to reduce RT. A race that has strength and can manage encumbrance would also be wise.

==What Armor to use?==
The best armor you can afford.

My advice is Double leather, then Brigandine, then hauberk, for Full body coverage. I like the full body coverage as it allows me to wear arm/leg greaves, helm, and aventails, if I choose with no added penalties. I kept my eye out for enhancives on the added armor pieces. Padding crit or damage is always a good choice if you can afford it.

My cap armor is an imflass chain hauberk, with added helm, arm and leg greaves and aventail, it has 11% hinderance. I find the failure acceptable to my style. Some will not. A paladin for fluidity would be fantastic. I also kept training armor to reduce maneuver penalties. Armor skill is also a secondary skill for redux so serves some double duty.

==Keeping your RT manageable==

You will find the links below for Agi/Dex and Two weapon combat RT. The RT is probably the most confusing part of using two weapons. I say this because from time to time, it does not match the documents. Weapon weights, base speed, Agi/Dex, encumberance, and Character strength all affect your RT. (Assume Aspect, Phoen's Strength, Enhancive items, and Wizard strength will be the greatest help here)

To really enjoy and work the two weapon using ranger. You will need to test various combinations of weapons. Early on you might try short sword and gauche for the gauches added DS when used in off hand. Later on perhaps a long sword/short sword when you want to hit harder and keep RT manageable. Too many weapons to list.

==A Rangers Weapon Sets==
There are many weapons to try. Your ranger will have two or possibly three different sets as he heads out on patrol at certain points in thier career. This is where you get to show your rangers individuality.

My carry weapons at cap are: longsword/shortsword set, two hand axe set, and a dagger set. This is not based on min maxing, it is more a collection of style, effectiveness vs heavy armor, and a couple speed weapons for when encumbered by heaps of treasure and skins.

Do not forget to look at blunt weapons if that is more appealing to you.

I can say, that this will be fun. Try all kinds of cheap sets of weapons to get what feels right.
This will evolve as Stats increase, better enhancive items are acquired, and weapon choice vs armor types are considered

So, what feels right now, may change at various training stages and against different types of armor types (critters).

Feras weapons, Flares, Ensorcellment, Weighting (crit and damage) can all boost your effectiveness. You hit twice as often and good combinations of the previous can add great advantages to your ranger.

https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Edged_Weapons
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Roundtime
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat

==TWC Defenses==

'All about that AS that AS , no defense, it's all about the AS'

Ok, so seriously, defenses as a two weapon using ranger. As usual we have some good options available.

'''TWC Parry DS:''' https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat
I cannot explain it better than is listed.

'''Stances:''' No really there are stances other than OFF and DEF. A good understanding of how you can adjust your stance to maintain adequate defense for the current threat and still provide you with enough offensive punch to down your enemies will really help. Your ranger spells have a great variety to help you to do this.

'''TWC Out Right Parry:''' each weapon will provide a 5% chance to parry incoming melee attacks against like level foes in stance offensive (https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Parry) Assume Aspect:Mantis aids nicely with both weapons chances to parry.

'''Bolt Defenses''': Two Weapon Combat style does not offer good bolt defenses (no shield). So, as a ranger we adapt. The ranger spell list and minor spell list will provide a great amount of assistance to our Bolt DS. I would like to focus on those that you can use to finesse things and make your twc ranger even more protected. Minor Spirit Air wall 102, and Fog 106 can be used as well as seeking areas when hunting that provide natural defenses. Your wall of thorns blocking incoming attacks,(later boosted by Aspect Porcupine), and Evasion/dodge (boosted by serpent) however will all aid you greatly. ''Assume Aspect Mantis with a runestaff will parry bolts/arrows as well. (test it)'' Rotating aspects when mana is not the main issue.

'''NOTE: The following Runestaff comments are for much later down the line but am tossing it in here for reference''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying Bolts and arrows. Test it out if you find the need for more bolt defenses beyond what you get from Wall of Thorns or out right evasion.

'''Evade''' Can be boosted by your Aspect Serpent, I saw a really significant increase here from 21% to 40%.

==Runestaff test==
'''NOTE''': Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This Would require runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider.

An 800 bolt attack repitition test with the mage Drafix's assistance has shown my ranger's wall of thorns stopped about 21% of incoming bolt attacks. 24% were then outright evaded (wearing my hauberk or not wearing it was the same due to armor over training), (this increased to 40% evaded with Aspect Serpent running) and then after that 7% were blocked by the runestaff. Giving an over all total of 51%+ to 67% stopped/evaded/parried.

Also, the % was based on bolt spell by like level caster. I believe the Ball spells and Arrows the % to parry are different. And did not do a deep test of those at this time.

The rune staff below is +8 deringo. (a staff with eblade on it would cost next to nothing) (test for this posting was 8 of 20 and 10 of 27) using mantis against ball spells

''Sepher gestures at you''.

Sepher hurls a roaring ball of fire at you!

You deflect the bolt with your runestaff!

''Sepher nocks a dull black wooden arrow fletched with white-spotted falcon feathers in his sephwir long bow.'' (10/35 against arrows)

Sepher fires a dull black arrow at you!

You deflect the arrow with your runestaff!

The arrow disappears into the local environs.

Now I certainly do not expect everyone using TWC to invest in runestaves. But please remember that was 7% of the over all total attacks, not the ones that got past wall of thorns or were evaded outright) the runestaff seemed to parry about 11% of the bolts it had a chance to parry. So, if bolts become an issue, it is something to consider since you already have magical training as a semi and have a Bolt Weakness using Two weapons. You could also pick up a shield and train it post cap. But this utilizes skills you have most likely already trained in.

==Society==

(Anyone want to toss in pro-cons please do so)

Aurach is a member of Voln. Two Weapons against the many non-critable undead has worked rather well.

==recap==
So, this is my thoughts on two weapon using rangers. I will be adding more as thoughts come to me. I find the capped version to be where my character really came into his own. There seemed to be a non-stop struggle to survive when I was hunting early on. But so much has changed since then. I think a two weapon combat ranger at this point would have great strengths right from the beginning.

John mind behind

''Aurach Moonshadew the Gallant, 'two-blader' of Auld Ta'Faendryl''

==See Also==
*[[Ranger]] (main article)
*[[A beginner's guide to playing a ranger]]
http://www.play.net/gs4/info/skills.asp#twoweaponcombat
Evade
Parry

==References==
*[http://www.play.net/gs4/info/professions/rangers.asp Ranger profession on Play.net]

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[[Category:Ranger]]
[[Category:Professional Guides]]

Aurach's Two Weapon Combat Guide: A Ranger's Perspective

2015-02-20T14:17:02Z

SHEN1: /* TWC Ranger Discreet Training */

[[Image:Twcranger.jpg|thumb|Aurach]]

==The Two Weapon Combat Ranger==

The whirling scimitars of Drizzsdt Do'Urden, The 'mountain charge to rescue' in Last of the Mohican's using Hatchet and knife, Lancelot's dual short swords in King Arthur, all bring the vision of our champion, the Two Weapon Combat Ranger. A challenging training path, with strong reliance on attack and speed.

Very few rangers take this path. It is up hill both ways, in the snow, at night, crossing a frigid streams, without boots.

Why are you still reading?

Let me say this one more time. It is very costly in training points, it delays most other skills/spells and you have little bolt defense. You may find training the TWC combat skill and adjusting to this style at cap MUCH easier.

If you are still reading you are probably hard headed enough.

However, other guides have said there is really no 'bad' way to train a ranger. Two weapon combat from a rangers birth is probably really close however.

Good Luck

==Why two weapons?==

Most ambushing rangers and archers can kill with one well placed strike. So too can the two weapon ambushing ranger, but the world has creatures that cannot be critical struck and only massive raw damage will suffice.

Enter our ranger hero, weapon in each hand, spell at the ready. 'Guts, 'Glory, 'Aspects'

For me the style has always been about using your magics and blades together. This is really not a stand in the open and get beat on type of style. You can do that however. I prefer the use of good timing, and a rather large variety of spells to maneuver your opponents into situations favorable to you.

Your greatest strength is your variety of magics, combat maneuver skills, and weapons combined.

From the skills and stats a Ranger can be a very good two weapon user. Great spirit warding, good variety of spells, low costs to train a variety of skills, some of the best attack spells for a semi, great defensive spells all make for a really versatile and easily adjustable character.

While not recommended to try from early on, this style when combined with ambushing and Multi Opponent Combat is absolutely devastating.

==Ranger Spells==
The ranger spell list provides some unique benefits for TWC rangers, both directly and indirectly.

[[606|Phoen's strength (606)]] gives a phantom increase of +10 to [[Strength|strength]] bonus. Strength is incredibly important to keep RT down (encumbrance really affects the left hand weapon).

[[Mobility (618)]] offers a large bonus to Dodge, a TWC rangers primary defense

[[Camouflage (608)]] a +30 AS bonus from camouflage for multiple attacks. Yes both weapons get the bonus from a ranger leaping to ambush or 'plain attacking' from a camo 608 position, so this can be used by non ambusher for the boost if your quick, so you at least get the +30 AS bonus.

[[Wall of Thorns (640)]] of great assistance to a TWC ranger, the best defense is having the trees block for you and not getting hit at all.

[[650|Assume aspect (650)]] is custom made for a TWC ranger, allowing you to tweak your form to meet the current threat or boost a weakness. (alternating between rat and wolf for example maintains a boost to your agi/dex)

All Rangers also benefit from a plethora of set up spells that can complement any weapon style, such as [[Sounds (607)]], [[610|Tangle weed (610)]] , [[Call Swarm (615)]] and Sunburst (609) (note the effects vs undead)

TWC rangers will find great use in the [[Minor Spiritual]] spell circle, especially [[Spirit Barrier (102)]] and [[106|Spirit fog (106)]], to provide added defenses. Note that 102 gives a penalty to [[Attack strength|AS]] so you could [[STOP (verb)|STOP 102]], which removes the spell so you can attack without the penalty making for a creative low mana Shield/stance dance option, also breeze will eliminate 106, however that is mana intensive.

==Two Weapon Combat Training==
The introduction of Fix skills and Fix Stats, will allows new rangers to tweak their efforts with great ease. I suggest Maintain your core training, finesse skills/Stats as starting Stats have increased and allow you to gain more your training points while boosting over all stat totals. (this is an entire topic all it's own) (word smith this it isn't sounding right)

===Two Weapon Combat Ranger Core Training===

This is your base training that every two weapon ranger should have each level.

*2x (6/4) [[Combat Maneuvers]]: When points are too tight, you can skip some here if you have to, try to keep singling.
*2x (9/6) [[Two Weapon Combat]]:
*2x (9/3) [[Edged Weapons]] (Blunt weapons can be used, slightly increased training cost, do not over look this if it appeals to your style of ranger)
*1x (4/0) [[Physical Fitness]]: (no shield, you will be getting hit, you need this)
*1x (7/5) [[Dodge]]
*1x (0/5) [[Harness Power]]
*1x (0/17) [[Spell Research]]: (May have to skip spells a few levels until training points work out)
*1x (0/3) [[Perception]]: take higher at cap (if you can single, go for it, I think you will be strapped for points: You can skip this when you need to)
*1x Armor (5/0) Can skip if you have to for points, but you will need armor training and good armor with this build
Total of (40/43)

===TWC Ranger Discreet Training===

These values are plateaus you should strive to reach at some point in your career.

*(5/0) [[Armor Use]]: (Aurach's goal was 110 ranks for a chain hauberk and then 170 ranks post cap to reduce maneuver penalties in hauberk)
*5 ranks of [[Multi Opponent Combat]] (10/4) as soon as you can fit it in. (30 ranks allows 2 strikes per weapon on a target, 55 ranks allows you to focus mstrike 3 times per weapon on a single target) Reduces effects of being outnumbered.
*50 Ranks in [[Climbing]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make climb checks prior to that.
*50 Ranks in [[Swimming]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make swim checks prior to that.
*[[Spiritual Lore, Blessings]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after Getting 650
*[[Spiritual Lore, Summoning]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after getting 650
(your 1 rank of these two lores gives slight increases in many of your spells, low training point cost boosts, 5 ranks is Blessing lore is very interesting also as it will allow your 117 spirit strike to have a 3% chance to affect two strikes for you being both weapons)

===Spell Research===

My preferred training order: for a two weapon build
601, 101-103, 602-618, 104-107, 619-650, 108-130, Ranger ranks for life 'Aurach Moonshadew'

(other rangers prefer minor spirit 140 and ranger 162 which provides the best CS)

I prefer to get hues, then 101-103, I like having the low mana shield of 102 with this type of character.
After that Mobility is the goal. Then getting deep blues. Then I would head for Aspect.
This is simply my preference looking back on my build.

===Optional Additional Training===

A list of the most common skills to use your additional training points on.

*1x [[Ambush]] when you can fit the ranks in, 1x at cap (more as you feel the need) (I am singled at cap currently and do very well ambushing)
*2x [[Stalking and Hiding]] – If you plan to ambush at cap you will want to 2x this, post cap
*1x-2x [[Survival]] – This will aid skinning, foraging, and overland movement
*1x-2x [[First Aid]] – This will aid in skinning and reduce herb eating RT
*Spiritual Lore: Blessing and Summoning ranger preference, I think it should be gained after ranger spells are maxed, however 5 ranks of blessing lore will allow a 3% chance to have MS117 affect two strikes low chance but is nice when it happens)
*[[Magic Item Use]] I regret not having this 1x earlier. I did it post cap and love it.
*[[Arcane Symbols]] I regret not having this 1x earlier (immediately after MIU).
*15 ranks [[Spiritual Mana Control]] as soon as you learn it is fun to share and play well with others. 15 ranks is enough to share with most Older Spirit mana using folks (25 ranks post cap if you like).

===Post Cap Goals===

*2x Physical Fitness (immediately at cap or earlier)
*2x [[Combat Maneuvers]] (At cap or earlier)
*2x [[Dodge]] (after maxing ranger spells, maybe)
*55 ranks [[Multi-Opponent Combat]] for 6 strikes focused on a single target
[[Thrown Weapons]] may be a very interesting post cap goal, since you will throw both weapons and you already have the required support skill ([[TWC]], [[Perception]], Combat Maneuvers)

[[Blessing Lore ]]

[[Summoning Lore]]

'''[[Combat Maneuver]] skills (mine at cap at moment) Post Cap goals:'''
{|{{prettytable}}
|-style = "background:#DDD; color: blue"
!Skill
!Mnemonic
!Ranks
|-align=center
|[[Cunning Defense]]
|cdefense
|5
|-align=center
|[[Combat Movement]]
|cmovement
|5
|-align=center
|[[Hamstring]]
|hamstring
|5
|-align=center
|[[Disarm Weapon]]
|disarm
|5
|-align=center
|[[Shadow Mastery]]
|smastery
|5
|-align=center
|[[Sweep]]
|sweep
|1
|-align=center
|[[Garrote]]
|garrote
|1
|-align=center
|[[Subdual Strike]]
|sstrike
|1
|}

*TWC rangers will find these useful (order of preference for me was Cdefense, Cmovement, Hamstring, Disarm, Smastery)

This is simply how Aurach trained Combat maneuver skills.

==Race==
I would hope race depends largely on the vision you have for your ranger. That being said, Agility and Dexterity are very important to reduce RT. A race that has strength and can manage encumbrance would also be wise.

==What Armor to use?==
The best armor you can afford.

My advice is Double leather, then Brigandine, then hauberk, for Full body coverage. I like the full body coverage as it allows me to wear arm/leg greaves, helm, and aventails, if I choose with no added penalties. I kept my eye out for enhancives on the added armor pieces. Padding crit or damage is always a good choice if you can afford it.

My cap armor is an imflass chain hauberk, with added helm, arm and leg greaves and aventail, it has 11% hinderance. I find the failure acceptable to my style. Some will not. A paladin for fluidity would be fantastic. I also kept training armor to reduce maneuver penalties. Armor skill is also a secondary skill for redux so serves some double duty.

==Keeping your RT manageable==

You will find the links below for Agi/Dex and Two weapon combat RT. The RT is probably the most confusing part of using two weapons. I say this because from time to time, it does not match the documents. Weapon weights, base speed, Agi/Dex, encumberance, and Character strength all affect your RT. (Assume Aspect, Phoen's Strength, Enhancive items, and Wizard strength will be the greatest help here)

To really enjoy and work the two weapon using ranger. You will need to test various combinations of weapons. Early on you might try short sword and gauche for the gauches added DS when used in off hand. Later on perhaps a long sword/short sword when you want to hit harder and keep RT manageable. Too many weapons to list.

==A Rangers Weapon Sets==
There are many weapons to try. Your ranger will have two or possibly three different sets as he heads out on patrol at certain points in thier career. This is where you get to show your rangers individuality.

My carry weapons at cap are: longsword/shortsword set, two hand axe set, and a dagger set. This is not based on min maxing, it is more a collection of style, effectiveness vs heavy armor, and a couple speed weapons for when encumbered by heaps of treasure and skins.

Do not forget to look at blunt weapons if that is more appealing to you.

I can say, that this will be fun. Try all kinds of cheap sets of weapons to get what feels right.
This will evolve as Stats increase, better enhancive items are acquired, and weapon choice vs armor types are considered

So, what feels right now, may change at various training stages and against different types of armor types (critters).

Feras weapons, Flares, Ensorcellment, Weighting (crit and damage) can all boost your effectiveness. You hit twice as often and good combinations of the previous can add great advantages to your ranger.

https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Edged_Weapons
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Roundtime
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat

==TWC Defenses==

'All about that AS that AS , no defense, it's all about the AS'

Ok, so seriously, defenses as a two weapon using ranger. As usual we have some good options available.

'''TWC Parry DS:''' https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat
I cannot explain it better than is listed.

'''Stances:''' No really there are stances other than OFF and DEF. A good understanding of how you can adjust your stance to maintain adequate defense for the current threat and still provide you with enough offensive punch to down your enemies will really help. Your ranger spells have a great variety to help you to do this.

'''TWC Out Right Parry:''' each weapon will provide a 5% chance to parry incoming melee attacks against like level foes in stance offensive (https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Parry) Assume Aspect:Mantis aids nicely with both weapons chances to parry.

'''Bolt Defenses''': Two Weapon Combat style does not offer good bolt defenses (no shield). So, as a ranger we adapt. The ranger spell list and minor spell list will provide a great amount of assistance to our Bolt DS. I would like to focus on those that you can use to finesse things and make your twc ranger even more protected. Minor Spirit Air wall 102, and Fog 106 can be used as well as seeking areas when hunting that provide natural defenses. Your wall of thorns blocking incoming attacks,(later boosted by Aspect Porcupine), and Evasion/dodge (boosted by serpent) however will all aid you greatly. ''Assume Aspect Mantis with a runestaff will parry bolts/arrows as well. (test it)'' Rotating aspects when mana is not the main issue.

'''NOTE: The following Runestaff comments are for much later down the line but am tossing it in here for reference''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying Bolts and arrows. Test it out if you find the need for more bolt defenses beyond what you get from Wall of Thorns or out right evasion.

'''Evade''' Can be boosted by your Aspect Serpent, I saw a really significant increase here from 21% to 40%.

==Runestaff test==
'''NOTE''': Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This Would require runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider.

An 800 bolt attack repitition test with the mage Drafix's assistance has shown my ranger's wall of thorns stopped about 21% of incoming bolt attacks. 24% were then outright evaded (wearing my hauberk or not wearing it was the same due to armor over training), (this increased to 40% evaded with Aspect Serpent running) and then after that 7% were blocked by the runestaff. Giving an over all total of 51%+ to 67% stopped/evaded/parried.

Also, the % was based on bolt spell by like level caster. I believe the Ball spells and Arrows the % to parry are different. And did not do a deep test of those at this time.

The rune staff below is +8 deringo. (a staff with eblade on it would cost next to nothing) (test for this posting was 8 of 20 and 10 of 27) using mantis against ball spells

''Sepher gestures at you''.

Sepher hurls a roaring ball of fire at you!

You deflect the bolt with your runestaff!

''Sepher nocks a dull black wooden arrow fletched with white-spotted falcon feathers in his sephwir long bow.'' (10/35 against arrows)

Sepher fires a dull black arrow at you!

You deflect the arrow with your runestaff!

The arrow disappears into the local environs.

Now I certainly do not expect everyone using TWC to invest in runestaves. But please remember that was 7% of the over all total attacks, not the ones that got past wall of thorns or were evaded outright) the runestaff seemed to parry about 11% of the bolts it had a chance to parry. So, if bolts become an issue, it is something to consider since you already have magical training as a semi and have a Bolt Weakness using Two weapons. You could also pick up a shield and train it post cap. But this utilizes skills you have most likely already trained in.

==Society==

(Anyone want to toss in pro-cons please do so)

Aurach is a member of Voln. Two Weapons against the many non-critable undead has worked rather well.

==recap==
So, this is my thoughts on two weapon using rangers. I will be adding more as thoughts come to me. I find the capped version to be where my character really came into his own. There seemed to be a non-stop struggle to survive when I was hunting early on. But so much has changed since then. I think a two weapon combat ranger at this point would have great strengths right from the beginning.

John mind behind

''Aurach Moonshadew the Gallant, 'two-blader' of Auld Ta'Faendryl''

==See Also==
*[[Ranger]] (main article)
*[[A beginner's guide to playing a ranger]]
http://www.play.net/gs4/info/skills.asp#twoweaponcombat
Evade
Parry

==References==
*[http://www.play.net/gs4/info/professions/rangers.asp Ranger profession on Play.net]

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[[Category:Ranger]]
[[Category:Professional Guides]]

Aurach's Two Weapon Combat Guide: A Ranger's Perspective

2015-02-20T14:16:40Z

SHEN1: /* Two Weapon Combat Ranger Core Training */

[[Image:Twcranger.jpg|thumb|Aurach]]

==The Two Weapon Combat Ranger==

The whirling scimitars of Drizzsdt Do'Urden, The 'mountain charge to rescue' in Last of the Mohican's using Hatchet and knife, Lancelot's dual short swords in King Arthur, all bring the vision of our champion, the Two Weapon Combat Ranger. A challenging training path, with strong reliance on attack and speed.

Very few rangers take this path. It is up hill both ways, in the snow, at night, crossing a frigid streams, without boots.

Why are you still reading?

Let me say this one more time. It is very costly in training points, it delays most other skills/spells and you have little bolt defense. You may find training the TWC combat skill and adjusting to this style at cap MUCH easier.

If you are still reading you are probably hard headed enough.

However, other guides have said there is really no 'bad' way to train a ranger. Two weapon combat from a rangers birth is probably really close however.

Good Luck

==Why two weapons?==

Most ambushing rangers and archers can kill with one well placed strike. So too can the two weapon ambushing ranger, but the world has creatures that cannot be critical struck and only massive raw damage will suffice.

Enter our ranger hero, weapon in each hand, spell at the ready. 'Guts, 'Glory, 'Aspects'

For me the style has always been about using your magics and blades together. This is really not a stand in the open and get beat on type of style. You can do that however. I prefer the use of good timing, and a rather large variety of spells to maneuver your opponents into situations favorable to you.

Your greatest strength is your variety of magics, combat maneuver skills, and weapons combined.

From the skills and stats a Ranger can be a very good two weapon user. Great spirit warding, good variety of spells, low costs to train a variety of skills, some of the best attack spells for a semi, great defensive spells all make for a really versatile and easily adjustable character.

While not recommended to try from early on, this style when combined with ambushing and Multi Opponent Combat is absolutely devastating.

==Ranger Spells==
The ranger spell list provides some unique benefits for TWC rangers, both directly and indirectly.

[[606|Phoen's strength (606)]] gives a phantom increase of +10 to [[Strength|strength]] bonus. Strength is incredibly important to keep RT down (encumbrance really affects the left hand weapon).

[[Mobility (618)]] offers a large bonus to Dodge, a TWC rangers primary defense

[[Camouflage (608)]] a +30 AS bonus from camouflage for multiple attacks. Yes both weapons get the bonus from a ranger leaping to ambush or 'plain attacking' from a camo 608 position, so this can be used by non ambusher for the boost if your quick, so you at least get the +30 AS bonus.

[[Wall of Thorns (640)]] of great assistance to a TWC ranger, the best defense is having the trees block for you and not getting hit at all.

[[650|Assume aspect (650)]] is custom made for a TWC ranger, allowing you to tweak your form to meet the current threat or boost a weakness. (alternating between rat and wolf for example maintains a boost to your agi/dex)

All Rangers also benefit from a plethora of set up spells that can complement any weapon style, such as [[Sounds (607)]], [[610|Tangle weed (610)]] , [[Call Swarm (615)]] and Sunburst (609) (note the effects vs undead)

TWC rangers will find great use in the [[Minor Spiritual]] spell circle, especially [[Spirit Barrier (102)]] and [[106|Spirit fog (106)]], to provide added defenses. Note that 102 gives a penalty to [[Attack strength|AS]] so you could [[STOP (verb)|STOP 102]], which removes the spell so you can attack without the penalty making for a creative low mana Shield/stance dance option, also breeze will eliminate 106, however that is mana intensive.

==Two Weapon Combat Training==
The introduction of Fix skills and Fix Stats, will allows new rangers to tweak their efforts with great ease. I suggest Maintain your core training, finesse skills/Stats as starting Stats have increased and allow you to gain more your training points while boosting over all stat totals. (this is an entire topic all it's own) (word smith this it isn't sounding right)

===Two Weapon Combat Ranger Core Training===

This is your base training that every two weapon ranger should have each level.

*2x (6/4) [[Combat Maneuvers]]: When points are too tight, you can skip some here if you have to, try to keep singling.
*2x (9/6) [[Two Weapon Combat]]:
*2x (9/3) [[Edged Weapons]] (Blunt weapons can be used, slightly increased training cost, do not over look this if it appeals to your style of ranger)
*1x (4/0) [[Physical Fitness]]: (no shield, you will be getting hit, you need this)
*1x (7/5) [[Dodge]]
*1x (0/5) [[Harness Power]]
*1x (0/17) [[Spell Research]]: (May have to skip spells a few levels until training points work out)
*1x (0/3) [[Perception]]: take higher at cap (if you can single, go for it, I think you will be strapped for points: You can skip this when you need to)
*1x Armor (5/0) Can skip if you have to for points, but you will need armor training and good armor with this build
Total of (40/43)

===TWC Ranger Discreet Training===

These values are plateaus you should strive to reach at some point in your career.

*1x (5/0) [[Armor Use]]: (Aurach's goal was 110 ranks for a chain hauberk and then 170 ranks post cap to reduce maneuver penalties in hauberk)
*5 ranks of [[Multi Opponent Combat]] (10/4) as soon as you can fit it in. (30 ranks allows 2 strikes per weapon on a target, 55 ranks allows you to focus mstrike 3 times per weapon on a single target) Reduces effects of being outnumbered.
*50 Ranks in [[Climbing]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make climb checks prior to that.
*50 Ranks in [[Swimming]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make swim checks prior to that.
*[[Spiritual Lore, Blessings]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after Getting 650
*[[Spiritual Lore, Summoning]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after getting 650
(your 1 rank of these two lores gives slight increases in many of your spells, low training point cost boosts, 5 ranks is Blessing lore is very interesting also as it will allow your 117 spirit strike to have a 3% chance to affect two strikes for you being both weapons)

===Spell Research===

My preferred training order: for a two weapon build
601, 101-103, 602-618, 104-107, 619-650, 108-130, Ranger ranks for life 'Aurach Moonshadew'

(other rangers prefer minor spirit 140 and ranger 162 which provides the best CS)

I prefer to get hues, then 101-103, I like having the low mana shield of 102 with this type of character.
After that Mobility is the goal. Then getting deep blues. Then I would head for Aspect.
This is simply my preference looking back on my build.

===Optional Additional Training===

A list of the most common skills to use your additional training points on.

*1x [[Ambush]] when you can fit the ranks in, 1x at cap (more as you feel the need) (I am singled at cap currently and do very well ambushing)
*2x [[Stalking and Hiding]] – If you plan to ambush at cap you will want to 2x this, post cap
*1x-2x [[Survival]] – This will aid skinning, foraging, and overland movement
*1x-2x [[First Aid]] – This will aid in skinning and reduce herb eating RT
*Spiritual Lore: Blessing and Summoning ranger preference, I think it should be gained after ranger spells are maxed, however 5 ranks of blessing lore will allow a 3% chance to have MS117 affect two strikes low chance but is nice when it happens)
*[[Magic Item Use]] I regret not having this 1x earlier. I did it post cap and love it.
*[[Arcane Symbols]] I regret not having this 1x earlier (immediately after MIU).
*15 ranks [[Spiritual Mana Control]] as soon as you learn it is fun to share and play well with others. 15 ranks is enough to share with most Older Spirit mana using folks (25 ranks post cap if you like).

===Post Cap Goals===

*2x Physical Fitness (immediately at cap or earlier)
*2x [[Combat Maneuvers]] (At cap or earlier)
*2x [[Dodge]] (after maxing ranger spells, maybe)
*55 ranks [[Multi-Opponent Combat]] for 6 strikes focused on a single target
[[Thrown Weapons]] may be a very interesting post cap goal, since you will throw both weapons and you already have the required support skill ([[TWC]], [[Perception]], Combat Maneuvers)

[[Blessing Lore ]]

[[Summoning Lore]]

'''[[Combat Maneuver]] skills (mine at cap at moment) Post Cap goals:'''
{|{{prettytable}}
|-style = "background:#DDD; color: blue"
!Skill
!Mnemonic
!Ranks
|-align=center
|[[Cunning Defense]]
|cdefense
|5
|-align=center
|[[Combat Movement]]
|cmovement
|5
|-align=center
|[[Hamstring]]
|hamstring
|5
|-align=center
|[[Disarm Weapon]]
|disarm
|5
|-align=center
|[[Shadow Mastery]]
|smastery
|5
|-align=center
|[[Sweep]]
|sweep
|1
|-align=center
|[[Garrote]]
|garrote
|1
|-align=center
|[[Subdual Strike]]
|sstrike
|1
|}

*TWC rangers will find these useful (order of preference for me was Cdefense, Cmovement, Hamstring, Disarm, Smastery)

This is simply how Aurach trained Combat maneuver skills.

==Race==
I would hope race depends largely on the vision you have for your ranger. That being said, Agility and Dexterity are very important to reduce RT. A race that has strength and can manage encumbrance would also be wise.

==What Armor to use?==
The best armor you can afford.

My advice is Double leather, then Brigandine, then hauberk, for Full body coverage. I like the full body coverage as it allows me to wear arm/leg greaves, helm, and aventails, if I choose with no added penalties. I kept my eye out for enhancives on the added armor pieces. Padding crit or damage is always a good choice if you can afford it.

My cap armor is an imflass chain hauberk, with added helm, arm and leg greaves and aventail, it has 11% hinderance. I find the failure acceptable to my style. Some will not. A paladin for fluidity would be fantastic. I also kept training armor to reduce maneuver penalties. Armor skill is also a secondary skill for redux so serves some double duty.

==Keeping your RT manageable==

You will find the links below for Agi/Dex and Two weapon combat RT. The RT is probably the most confusing part of using two weapons. I say this because from time to time, it does not match the documents. Weapon weights, base speed, Agi/Dex, encumberance, and Character strength all affect your RT. (Assume Aspect, Phoen's Strength, Enhancive items, and Wizard strength will be the greatest help here)

To really enjoy and work the two weapon using ranger. You will need to test various combinations of weapons. Early on you might try short sword and gauche for the gauches added DS when used in off hand. Later on perhaps a long sword/short sword when you want to hit harder and keep RT manageable. Too many weapons to list.

==A Rangers Weapon Sets==
There are many weapons to try. Your ranger will have two or possibly three different sets as he heads out on patrol at certain points in thier career. This is where you get to show your rangers individuality.

My carry weapons at cap are: longsword/shortsword set, two hand axe set, and a dagger set. This is not based on min maxing, it is more a collection of style, effectiveness vs heavy armor, and a couple speed weapons for when encumbered by heaps of treasure and skins.

Do not forget to look at blunt weapons if that is more appealing to you.

I can say, that this will be fun. Try all kinds of cheap sets of weapons to get what feels right.
This will evolve as Stats increase, better enhancive items are acquired, and weapon choice vs armor types are considered

So, what feels right now, may change at various training stages and against different types of armor types (critters).

Feras weapons, Flares, Ensorcellment, Weighting (crit and damage) can all boost your effectiveness. You hit twice as often and good combinations of the previous can add great advantages to your ranger.

https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Edged_Weapons
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Roundtime
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat

==TWC Defenses==

'All about that AS that AS , no defense, it's all about the AS'

Ok, so seriously, defenses as a two weapon using ranger. As usual we have some good options available.

'''TWC Parry DS:''' https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat
I cannot explain it better than is listed.

'''Stances:''' No really there are stances other than OFF and DEF. A good understanding of how you can adjust your stance to maintain adequate defense for the current threat and still provide you with enough offensive punch to down your enemies will really help. Your ranger spells have a great variety to help you to do this.

'''TWC Out Right Parry:''' each weapon will provide a 5% chance to parry incoming melee attacks against like level foes in stance offensive (https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Parry) Assume Aspect:Mantis aids nicely with both weapons chances to parry.

'''Bolt Defenses''': Two Weapon Combat style does not offer good bolt defenses (no shield). So, as a ranger we adapt. The ranger spell list and minor spell list will provide a great amount of assistance to our Bolt DS. I would like to focus on those that you can use to finesse things and make your twc ranger even more protected. Minor Spirit Air wall 102, and Fog 106 can be used as well as seeking areas when hunting that provide natural defenses. Your wall of thorns blocking incoming attacks,(later boosted by Aspect Porcupine), and Evasion/dodge (boosted by serpent) however will all aid you greatly. ''Assume Aspect Mantis with a runestaff will parry bolts/arrows as well. (test it)'' Rotating aspects when mana is not the main issue.

'''NOTE: The following Runestaff comments are for much later down the line but am tossing it in here for reference''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying Bolts and arrows. Test it out if you find the need for more bolt defenses beyond what you get from Wall of Thorns or out right evasion.

'''Evade''' Can be boosted by your Aspect Serpent, I saw a really significant increase here from 21% to 40%.

==Runestaff test==
'''NOTE''': Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This Would require runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider.

An 800 bolt attack repitition test with the mage Drafix's assistance has shown my ranger's wall of thorns stopped about 21% of incoming bolt attacks. 24% were then outright evaded (wearing my hauberk or not wearing it was the same due to armor over training), (this increased to 40% evaded with Aspect Serpent running) and then after that 7% were blocked by the runestaff. Giving an over all total of 51%+ to 67% stopped/evaded/parried.

Also, the % was based on bolt spell by like level caster. I believe the Ball spells and Arrows the % to parry are different. And did not do a deep test of those at this time.

The rune staff below is +8 deringo. (a staff with eblade on it would cost next to nothing) (test for this posting was 8 of 20 and 10 of 27) using mantis against ball spells

''Sepher gestures at you''.

Sepher hurls a roaring ball of fire at you!

You deflect the bolt with your runestaff!

''Sepher nocks a dull black wooden arrow fletched with white-spotted falcon feathers in his sephwir long bow.'' (10/35 against arrows)

Sepher fires a dull black arrow at you!

You deflect the arrow with your runestaff!

The arrow disappears into the local environs.

Now I certainly do not expect everyone using TWC to invest in runestaves. But please remember that was 7% of the over all total attacks, not the ones that got past wall of thorns or were evaded outright) the runestaff seemed to parry about 11% of the bolts it had a chance to parry. So, if bolts become an issue, it is something to consider since you already have magical training as a semi and have a Bolt Weakness using Two weapons. You could also pick up a shield and train it post cap. But this utilizes skills you have most likely already trained in.

==Society==

(Anyone want to toss in pro-cons please do so)

Aurach is a member of Voln. Two Weapons against the many non-critable undead has worked rather well.

==recap==
So, this is my thoughts on two weapon using rangers. I will be adding more as thoughts come to me. I find the capped version to be where my character really came into his own. There seemed to be a non-stop struggle to survive when I was hunting early on. But so much has changed since then. I think a two weapon combat ranger at this point would have great strengths right from the beginning.

John mind behind

''Aurach Moonshadew the Gallant, 'two-blader' of Auld Ta'Faendryl''

==See Also==
*[[Ranger]] (main article)
*[[A beginner's guide to playing a ranger]]
http://www.play.net/gs4/info/skills.asp#twoweaponcombat
Evade
Parry

==References==
*[http://www.play.net/gs4/info/professions/rangers.asp Ranger profession on Play.net]

{{stub}}
[[Category:Guides]]
[[Category:Ranger]]
[[Category:Professional Guides]]

Aurach's Two Weapon Combat Guide: A Ranger's Perspective

2015-02-20T13:04:19Z

SHEN1: /* recap */

[[Image:Twcranger.jpg|thumb|Aurach]]

==The Two Weapon Combat Ranger==

The whirling scimitars of Drizzsdt Do'Urden, The 'mountain charge to rescue' in Last of the Mohican's using Hatchet and knife, Lancelot's dual short swords in King Arthur, all bring the vision of our champion, the Two Weapon Combat Ranger. A challenging training path, with strong reliance on attack and speed.

Very few rangers take this path. It is up hill both ways, in the snow, at night, crossing a frigid streams, without boots.

Why are you still reading?

Let me say this one more time. It is very costly in training points, it delays most other skills/spells and you have little bolt defense. You may find training the TWC combat skill and adjusting to this style at cap MUCH easier.

If you are still reading you are probably hard headed enough.

However, other guides have said there is really no 'bad' way to train a ranger. Two weapon combat from a rangers birth is probably really close however.

Good Luck

==Why two weapons?==

Most ambushing rangers and archers can kill with one well placed strike. So too can the two weapon ambushing ranger, but the world has creatures that cannot be critical struck and only massive raw damage will suffice.

Enter our ranger hero, weapon in each hand, spell at the ready. 'Guts, 'Glory, 'Aspects'

For me the style has always been about using your magics and blades together. This is really not a stand in the open and get beat on type of style. You can do that however. I prefer the use of good timing, and a rather large variety of spells to maneuver your opponents into situations favorable to you.

Your greatest strength is your variety of magics, combat maneuver skills, and weapons combined.

From the skills and stats a Ranger can be a very good two weapon user. Great spirit warding, good variety of spells, low costs to train a variety of skills, some of the best attack spells for a semi, great defensive spells all make for a really versatile and easily adjustable character.

While not recommended to try from early on, this style when combined with ambushing and Multi Opponent Combat is absolutely devastating.

==Ranger Spells==
The ranger spell list provides some unique benefits for TWC rangers, both directly and indirectly.

[[606|Phoen's strength (606)]] gives a phantom increase of +10 to [[Strength|strength]] bonus. Strength is incredibly important to keep RT down (encumbrance really affects the left hand weapon).

[[Mobility (618)]] offers a large bonus to Dodge, a TWC rangers primary defense

[[Camouflage (608)]] a +30 AS bonus from camouflage for multiple attacks. Yes both weapons get the bonus from a ranger leaping to ambush or 'plain attacking' from a camo 608 position, so this can be used by non ambusher for the boost if your quick, so you at least get the +30 AS bonus.

[[Wall of Thorns (640)]] of great assistance to a TWC ranger, the best defense is having the trees block for you and not getting hit at all.

[[650|Assume aspect (650)]] is custom made for a TWC ranger, allowing you to tweak your form to meet the current threat or boost a weakness. (alternating between rat and wolf for example maintains a boost to your agi/dex)

All Rangers also benefit from a plethora of set up spells that can complement any weapon style, such as [[Sounds (607)]], [[610|Tangle weed (610)]] , [[Call Swarm (615)]] and Sunburst (609) (note the effects vs undead)

TWC rangers will find great use in the [[Minor Spiritual]] spell circle, especially [[Spirit Barrier (102)]] and [[106|Spirit fog (106)]], to provide added defenses. Note that 102 gives a penalty to [[Attack strength|AS]] so you could [[STOP (verb)|STOP 102]], which removes the spell so you can attack without the penalty making for a creative low mana Shield/stance dance option, also breeze will eliminate 106, however that is mana intensive.

==Two Weapon Combat Training==
The introduction of Fix skills and Fix Stats, will allows new rangers to tweak their efforts with great ease. I suggest Maintain your core training, finesse skills/Stats as starting Stats have increased and allow you to gain more your training points while boosting over all stat totals. (this is an entire topic all it's own) (word smith this it isn't sounding right)

===Two Weapon Combat Ranger Core Training===

This is your base training that every two weapon ranger should have each level.

*2x (6/4) [[Combat Maneuvers]]: When points are too tight, you can skip some here if you have to, try to keep singling.
*2x (9/6) [[Two Weapon Combat]]:
*2x (9/3) [[Edged Weapons]] (Blunt weapons can be used, slightly increased training cost, do not over look this if it appeals to your style of ranger)
*1x (4/0) [[Physical Fitness]]: (no shield, you will be getting hit, you need this)
*1x (7/5) [[Dodge]]
*1x (0/5) [[Harness Power]]
*1x (0/17) [[Spell Research]]: (May have to skip spells a few levels until training points work out)
*1x (0/3) [[Perception]]: take higher at cap (if you can single, go for it, I think you will be strapped for points: You can skip this when you need to)

Total of (35/43)

===TWC Ranger Discreet Training===

These values are plateaus you should strive to reach at some point in your career.

*1x (5/0) [[Armor Use]]: (Aurach's goal was 110 ranks for a chain hauberk and then 170 ranks post cap to reduce maneuver penalties in hauberk)
*5 ranks of [[Multi Opponent Combat]] (10/4) as soon as you can fit it in. (30 ranks allows 2 strikes per weapon on a target, 55 ranks allows you to focus mstrike 3 times per weapon on a single target) Reduces effects of being outnumbered.
*50 Ranks in [[Climbing]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make climb checks prior to that.
*50 Ranks in [[Swimming]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make swim checks prior to that.
*[[Spiritual Lore, Blessings]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after Getting 650
*[[Spiritual Lore, Summoning]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after getting 650
(your 1 rank of these two lores gives slight increases in many of your spells, low training point cost boosts, 5 ranks is Blessing lore is very interesting also as it will allow your 117 spirit strike to have a 3% chance to affect two strikes for you being both weapons)

===Spell Research===

My preferred training order: for a two weapon build
601, 101-103, 602-618, 104-107, 619-650, 108-130, Ranger ranks for life 'Aurach Moonshadew'

(other rangers prefer minor spirit 140 and ranger 162 which provides the best CS)

I prefer to get hues, then 101-103, I like having the low mana shield of 102 with this type of character.
After that Mobility is the goal. Then getting deep blues. Then I would head for Aspect.
This is simply my preference looking back on my build.

===Optional Additional Training===

A list of the most common skills to use your additional training points on.

*1x [[Ambush]] when you can fit the ranks in, 1x at cap (more as you feel the need) (I am singled at cap currently and do very well ambushing)
*2x [[Stalking and Hiding]] – If you plan to ambush at cap you will want to 2x this, post cap
*1x-2x [[Survival]] – This will aid skinning, foraging, and overland movement
*1x-2x [[First Aid]] – This will aid in skinning and reduce herb eating RT
*Spiritual Lore: Blessing and Summoning ranger preference, I think it should be gained after ranger spells are maxed, however 5 ranks of blessing lore will allow a 3% chance to have MS117 affect two strikes low chance but is nice when it happens)
*[[Magic Item Use]] I regret not having this 1x earlier. I did it post cap and love it.
*[[Arcane Symbols]] I regret not having this 1x earlier (immediately after MIU).
*15 ranks [[Spiritual Mana Control]] as soon as you learn it is fun to share and play well with others. 15 ranks is enough to share with most Older Spirit mana using folks (25 ranks post cap if you like).

===Post Cap Goals===

*2x Physical Fitness (immediately at cap or earlier)
*2x [[Combat Maneuvers]] (At cap or earlier)
*2x [[Dodge]] (after maxing ranger spells, maybe)
*55 ranks [[Multi-Opponent Combat]] for 6 strikes focused on a single target
[[Thrown Weapons]] may be a very interesting post cap goal, since you will throw both weapons and you already have the required support skill ([[TWC]], [[Perception]], Combat Maneuvers)

[[Blessing Lore ]]

[[Summoning Lore]]

'''[[Combat Maneuver]] skills (mine at cap at moment) Post Cap goals:'''
{|{{prettytable}}
|-style = "background:#DDD; color: blue"
!Skill
!Mnemonic
!Ranks
|-align=center
|[[Cunning Defense]]
|cdefense
|5
|-align=center
|[[Combat Movement]]
|cmovement
|5
|-align=center
|[[Hamstring]]
|hamstring
|5
|-align=center
|[[Disarm Weapon]]
|disarm
|5
|-align=center
|[[Shadow Mastery]]
|smastery
|5
|-align=center
|[[Sweep]]
|sweep
|1
|-align=center
|[[Garrote]]
|garrote
|1
|-align=center
|[[Subdual Strike]]
|sstrike
|1
|}

*TWC rangers will find these useful (order of preference for me was Cdefense, Cmovement, Hamstring, Disarm, Smastery)

This is simply how Aurach trained Combat maneuver skills.

==Race==
I would hope race depends largely on the vision you have for your ranger. That being said, Agility and Dexterity are very important to reduce RT. A race that has strength and can manage encumbrance would also be wise.

==What Armor to use?==
The best armor you can afford.

My advice is Double leather, then Brigandine, then hauberk, for Full body coverage. I like the full body coverage as it allows me to wear arm/leg greaves, helm, and aventails, if I choose with no added penalties. I kept my eye out for enhancives on the added armor pieces. Padding crit or damage is always a good choice if you can afford it.

My cap armor is an imflass chain hauberk, with added helm, arm and leg greaves and aventail, it has 11% hinderance. I find the failure acceptable to my style. Some will not. A paladin for fluidity would be fantastic. I also kept training armor to reduce maneuver penalties. Armor skill is also a secondary skill for redux so serves some double duty.

==Keeping your RT manageable==

You will find the links below for Agi/Dex and Two weapon combat RT. The RT is probably the most confusing part of using two weapons. I say this because from time to time, it does not match the documents. Weapon weights, base speed, Agi/Dex, encumberance, and Character strength all affect your RT. (Assume Aspect, Phoen's Strength, Enhancive items, and Wizard strength will be the greatest help here)

To really enjoy and work the two weapon using ranger. You will need to test various combinations of weapons. Early on you might try short sword and gauche for the gauches added DS when used in off hand. Later on perhaps a long sword/short sword when you want to hit harder and keep RT manageable. Too many weapons to list.

==A Rangers Weapon Sets==
There are many weapons to try. Your ranger will have two or possibly three different sets as he heads out on patrol at certain points in thier career. This is where you get to show your rangers individuality.

My carry weapons at cap are: longsword/shortsword set, two hand axe set, and a dagger set. This is not based on min maxing, it is more a collection of style, effectiveness vs heavy armor, and a couple speed weapons for when encumbered by heaps of treasure and skins.

Do not forget to look at blunt weapons if that is more appealing to you.

I can say, that this will be fun. Try all kinds of cheap sets of weapons to get what feels right.
This will evolve as Stats increase, better enhancive items are acquired, and weapon choice vs armor types are considered

So, what feels right now, may change at various training stages and against different types of armor types (critters).

Feras weapons, Flares, Ensorcellment, Weighting (crit and damage) can all boost your effectiveness. You hit twice as often and good combinations of the previous can add great advantages to your ranger.

https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Edged_Weapons
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Roundtime
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat

==TWC Defenses==

'All about that AS that AS , no defense, it's all about the AS'

Ok, so seriously, defenses as a two weapon using ranger. As usual we have some good options available.

'''TWC Parry DS:''' https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat
I cannot explain it better than is listed.

'''Stances:''' No really there are stances other than OFF and DEF. A good understanding of how you can adjust your stance to maintain adequate defense for the current threat and still provide you with enough offensive punch to down your enemies will really help. Your ranger spells have a great variety to help you to do this.

'''TWC Out Right Parry:''' each weapon will provide a 5% chance to parry incoming melee attacks against like level foes in stance offensive (https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Parry) Assume Aspect:Mantis aids nicely with both weapons chances to parry.

'''Bolt Defenses''': Two Weapon Combat style does not offer good bolt defenses (no shield). So, as a ranger we adapt. The ranger spell list and minor spell list will provide a great amount of assistance to our Bolt DS. I would like to focus on those that you can use to finesse things and make your twc ranger even more protected. Minor Spirit Air wall 102, and Fog 106 can be used as well as seeking areas when hunting that provide natural defenses. Your wall of thorns blocking incoming attacks,(later boosted by Aspect Porcupine), and Evasion/dodge (boosted by serpent) however will all aid you greatly. ''Assume Aspect Mantis with a runestaff will parry bolts/arrows as well. (test it)'' Rotating aspects when mana is not the main issue.

'''NOTE: The following Runestaff comments are for much later down the line but am tossing it in here for reference''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying Bolts and arrows. Test it out if you find the need for more bolt defenses beyond what you get from Wall of Thorns or out right evasion.

'''Evade''' Can be boosted by your Aspect Serpent, I saw a really significant increase here from 21% to 40%.

==Runestaff test==
'''NOTE''': Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This Would require runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider.

An 800 bolt attack repitition test with the mage Drafix's assistance has shown my ranger's wall of thorns stopped about 21% of incoming bolt attacks. 24% were then outright evaded (wearing my hauberk or not wearing it was the same due to armor over training), (this increased to 40% evaded with Aspect Serpent running) and then after that 7% were blocked by the runestaff. Giving an over all total of 51%+ to 67% stopped/evaded/parried.

Also, the % was based on bolt spell by like level caster. I believe the Ball spells and Arrows the % to parry are different. And did not do a deep test of those at this time.

The rune staff below is +8 deringo. (a staff with eblade on it would cost next to nothing) (test for this posting was 8 of 20 and 10 of 27) using mantis against ball spells

''Sepher gestures at you''.

Sepher hurls a roaring ball of fire at you!

You deflect the bolt with your runestaff!

''Sepher nocks a dull black wooden arrow fletched with white-spotted falcon feathers in his sephwir long bow.'' (10/35 against arrows)

Sepher fires a dull black arrow at you!

You deflect the arrow with your runestaff!

The arrow disappears into the local environs.

Now I certainly do not expect everyone using TWC to invest in runestaves. But please remember that was 7% of the over all total attacks, not the ones that got past wall of thorns or were evaded outright) the runestaff seemed to parry about 11% of the bolts it had a chance to parry. So, if bolts become an issue, it is something to consider since you already have magical training as a semi and have a Bolt Weakness using Two weapons. You could also pick up a shield and train it post cap. But this utilizes skills you have most likely already trained in.

==Society==

(Anyone want to toss in pro-cons please do so)

Aurach is a member of Voln. Two Weapons against the many non-critable undead has worked rather well.

==recap==
So, this is my thoughts on two weapon using rangers. I will be adding more as thoughts come to me. I find the capped version to be where my character really came into his own. There seemed to be a non-stop struggle to survive when I was hunting early on. But so much has changed since then. I think a two weapon combat ranger at this point would have great strengths right from the beginning.

John mind behind

''Aurach Moonshadew the Gallant, 'two-blader' of Auld Ta'Faendryl''

==See Also==
*[[Ranger]] (main article)
*[[A beginner's guide to playing a ranger]]
http://www.play.net/gs4/info/skills.asp#twoweaponcombat
Evade
Parry

==References==
*[http://www.play.net/gs4/info/professions/rangers.asp Ranger profession on Play.net]

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Aurach's Two Weapon Combat Guide: A Ranger's Perspective

2015-02-20T13:04:00Z

SHEN1: /* recap */

[[Image:Twcranger.jpg|thumb|Aurach]]

==The Two Weapon Combat Ranger==

The whirling scimitars of Drizzsdt Do'Urden, The 'mountain charge to rescue' in Last of the Mohican's using Hatchet and knife, Lancelot's dual short swords in King Arthur, all bring the vision of our champion, the Two Weapon Combat Ranger. A challenging training path, with strong reliance on attack and speed.

Very few rangers take this path. It is up hill both ways, in the snow, at night, crossing a frigid streams, without boots.

Why are you still reading?

Let me say this one more time. It is very costly in training points, it delays most other skills/spells and you have little bolt defense. You may find training the TWC combat skill and adjusting to this style at cap MUCH easier.

If you are still reading you are probably hard headed enough.

However, other guides have said there is really no 'bad' way to train a ranger. Two weapon combat from a rangers birth is probably really close however.

Good Luck

==Why two weapons?==

Most ambushing rangers and archers can kill with one well placed strike. So too can the two weapon ambushing ranger, but the world has creatures that cannot be critical struck and only massive raw damage will suffice.

Enter our ranger hero, weapon in each hand, spell at the ready. 'Guts, 'Glory, 'Aspects'

For me the style has always been about using your magics and blades together. This is really not a stand in the open and get beat on type of style. You can do that however. I prefer the use of good timing, and a rather large variety of spells to maneuver your opponents into situations favorable to you.

Your greatest strength is your variety of magics, combat maneuver skills, and weapons combined.

From the skills and stats a Ranger can be a very good two weapon user. Great spirit warding, good variety of spells, low costs to train a variety of skills, some of the best attack spells for a semi, great defensive spells all make for a really versatile and easily adjustable character.

While not recommended to try from early on, this style when combined with ambushing and Multi Opponent Combat is absolutely devastating.

==Ranger Spells==
The ranger spell list provides some unique benefits for TWC rangers, both directly and indirectly.

[[606|Phoen's strength (606)]] gives a phantom increase of +10 to [[Strength|strength]] bonus. Strength is incredibly important to keep RT down (encumbrance really affects the left hand weapon).

[[Mobility (618)]] offers a large bonus to Dodge, a TWC rangers primary defense

[[Camouflage (608)]] a +30 AS bonus from camouflage for multiple attacks. Yes both weapons get the bonus from a ranger leaping to ambush or 'plain attacking' from a camo 608 position, so this can be used by non ambusher for the boost if your quick, so you at least get the +30 AS bonus.

[[Wall of Thorns (640)]] of great assistance to a TWC ranger, the best defense is having the trees block for you and not getting hit at all.

[[650|Assume aspect (650)]] is custom made for a TWC ranger, allowing you to tweak your form to meet the current threat or boost a weakness. (alternating between rat and wolf for example maintains a boost to your agi/dex)

All Rangers also benefit from a plethora of set up spells that can complement any weapon style, such as [[Sounds (607)]], [[610|Tangle weed (610)]] , [[Call Swarm (615)]] and Sunburst (609) (note the effects vs undead)

TWC rangers will find great use in the [[Minor Spiritual]] spell circle, especially [[Spirit Barrier (102)]] and [[106|Spirit fog (106)]], to provide added defenses. Note that 102 gives a penalty to [[Attack strength|AS]] so you could [[STOP (verb)|STOP 102]], which removes the spell so you can attack without the penalty making for a creative low mana Shield/stance dance option, also breeze will eliminate 106, however that is mana intensive.

==Two Weapon Combat Training==
The introduction of Fix skills and Fix Stats, will allows new rangers to tweak their efforts with great ease. I suggest Maintain your core training, finesse skills/Stats as starting Stats have increased and allow you to gain more your training points while boosting over all stat totals. (this is an entire topic all it's own) (word smith this it isn't sounding right)

===Two Weapon Combat Ranger Core Training===

This is your base training that every two weapon ranger should have each level.

*2x (6/4) [[Combat Maneuvers]]: When points are too tight, you can skip some here if you have to, try to keep singling.
*2x (9/6) [[Two Weapon Combat]]:
*2x (9/3) [[Edged Weapons]] (Blunt weapons can be used, slightly increased training cost, do not over look this if it appeals to your style of ranger)
*1x (4/0) [[Physical Fitness]]: (no shield, you will be getting hit, you need this)
*1x (7/5) [[Dodge]]
*1x (0/5) [[Harness Power]]
*1x (0/17) [[Spell Research]]: (May have to skip spells a few levels until training points work out)
*1x (0/3) [[Perception]]: take higher at cap (if you can single, go for it, I think you will be strapped for points: You can skip this when you need to)

Total of (35/43)

===TWC Ranger Discreet Training===

These values are plateaus you should strive to reach at some point in your career.

*1x (5/0) [[Armor Use]]: (Aurach's goal was 110 ranks for a chain hauberk and then 170 ranks post cap to reduce maneuver penalties in hauberk)
*5 ranks of [[Multi Opponent Combat]] (10/4) as soon as you can fit it in. (30 ranks allows 2 strikes per weapon on a target, 55 ranks allows you to focus mstrike 3 times per weapon on a single target) Reduces effects of being outnumbered.
*50 Ranks in [[Climbing]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make climb checks prior to that.
*50 Ranks in [[Swimming]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make swim checks prior to that.
*[[Spiritual Lore, Blessings]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after Getting 650
*[[Spiritual Lore, Summoning]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after getting 650
(your 1 rank of these two lores gives slight increases in many of your spells, low training point cost boosts, 5 ranks is Blessing lore is very interesting also as it will allow your 117 spirit strike to have a 3% chance to affect two strikes for you being both weapons)

===Spell Research===

My preferred training order: for a two weapon build
601, 101-103, 602-618, 104-107, 619-650, 108-130, Ranger ranks for life 'Aurach Moonshadew'

(other rangers prefer minor spirit 140 and ranger 162 which provides the best CS)

I prefer to get hues, then 101-103, I like having the low mana shield of 102 with this type of character.
After that Mobility is the goal. Then getting deep blues. Then I would head for Aspect.
This is simply my preference looking back on my build.

===Optional Additional Training===

A list of the most common skills to use your additional training points on.

*1x [[Ambush]] when you can fit the ranks in, 1x at cap (more as you feel the need) (I am singled at cap currently and do very well ambushing)
*2x [[Stalking and Hiding]] – If you plan to ambush at cap you will want to 2x this, post cap
*1x-2x [[Survival]] – This will aid skinning, foraging, and overland movement
*1x-2x [[First Aid]] – This will aid in skinning and reduce herb eating RT
*Spiritual Lore: Blessing and Summoning ranger preference, I think it should be gained after ranger spells are maxed, however 5 ranks of blessing lore will allow a 3% chance to have MS117 affect two strikes low chance but is nice when it happens)
*[[Magic Item Use]] I regret not having this 1x earlier. I did it post cap and love it.
*[[Arcane Symbols]] I regret not having this 1x earlier (immediately after MIU).
*15 ranks [[Spiritual Mana Control]] as soon as you learn it is fun to share and play well with others. 15 ranks is enough to share with most Older Spirit mana using folks (25 ranks post cap if you like).

===Post Cap Goals===

*2x Physical Fitness (immediately at cap or earlier)
*2x [[Combat Maneuvers]] (At cap or earlier)
*2x [[Dodge]] (after maxing ranger spells, maybe)
*55 ranks [[Multi-Opponent Combat]] for 6 strikes focused on a single target
[[Thrown Weapons]] may be a very interesting post cap goal, since you will throw both weapons and you already have the required support skill ([[TWC]], [[Perception]], Combat Maneuvers)

[[Blessing Lore ]]

[[Summoning Lore]]

'''[[Combat Maneuver]] skills (mine at cap at moment) Post Cap goals:'''
{|{{prettytable}}
|-style = "background:#DDD; color: blue"
!Skill
!Mnemonic
!Ranks
|-align=center
|[[Cunning Defense]]
|cdefense
|5
|-align=center
|[[Combat Movement]]
|cmovement
|5
|-align=center
|[[Hamstring]]
|hamstring
|5
|-align=center
|[[Disarm Weapon]]
|disarm
|5
|-align=center
|[[Shadow Mastery]]
|smastery
|5
|-align=center
|[[Sweep]]
|sweep
|1
|-align=center
|[[Garrote]]
|garrote
|1
|-align=center
|[[Subdual Strike]]
|sstrike
|1
|}

*TWC rangers will find these useful (order of preference for me was Cdefense, Cmovement, Hamstring, Disarm, Smastery)

This is simply how Aurach trained Combat maneuver skills.

==Race==
I would hope race depends largely on the vision you have for your ranger. That being said, Agility and Dexterity are very important to reduce RT. A race that has strength and can manage encumbrance would also be wise.

==What Armor to use?==
The best armor you can afford.

My advice is Double leather, then Brigandine, then hauberk, for Full body coverage. I like the full body coverage as it allows me to wear arm/leg greaves, helm, and aventails, if I choose with no added penalties. I kept my eye out for enhancives on the added armor pieces. Padding crit or damage is always a good choice if you can afford it.

My cap armor is an imflass chain hauberk, with added helm, arm and leg greaves and aventail, it has 11% hinderance. I find the failure acceptable to my style. Some will not. A paladin for fluidity would be fantastic. I also kept training armor to reduce maneuver penalties. Armor skill is also a secondary skill for redux so serves some double duty.

==Keeping your RT manageable==

You will find the links below for Agi/Dex and Two weapon combat RT. The RT is probably the most confusing part of using two weapons. I say this because from time to time, it does not match the documents. Weapon weights, base speed, Agi/Dex, encumberance, and Character strength all affect your RT. (Assume Aspect, Phoen's Strength, Enhancive items, and Wizard strength will be the greatest help here)

To really enjoy and work the two weapon using ranger. You will need to test various combinations of weapons. Early on you might try short sword and gauche for the gauches added DS when used in off hand. Later on perhaps a long sword/short sword when you want to hit harder and keep RT manageable. Too many weapons to list.

==A Rangers Weapon Sets==
There are many weapons to try. Your ranger will have two or possibly three different sets as he heads out on patrol at certain points in thier career. This is where you get to show your rangers individuality.

My carry weapons at cap are: longsword/shortsword set, two hand axe set, and a dagger set. This is not based on min maxing, it is more a collection of style, effectiveness vs heavy armor, and a couple speed weapons for when encumbered by heaps of treasure and skins.

Do not forget to look at blunt weapons if that is more appealing to you.

I can say, that this will be fun. Try all kinds of cheap sets of weapons to get what feels right.
This will evolve as Stats increase, better enhancive items are acquired, and weapon choice vs armor types are considered

So, what feels right now, may change at various training stages and against different types of armor types (critters).

Feras weapons, Flares, Ensorcellment, Weighting (crit and damage) can all boost your effectiveness. You hit twice as often and good combinations of the previous can add great advantages to your ranger.

https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Edged_Weapons
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Roundtime
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat

==TWC Defenses==

'All about that AS that AS , no defense, it's all about the AS'

Ok, so seriously, defenses as a two weapon using ranger. As usual we have some good options available.

'''TWC Parry DS:''' https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat
I cannot explain it better than is listed.

'''Stances:''' No really there are stances other than OFF and DEF. A good understanding of how you can adjust your stance to maintain adequate defense for the current threat and still provide you with enough offensive punch to down your enemies will really help. Your ranger spells have a great variety to help you to do this.

'''TWC Out Right Parry:''' each weapon will provide a 5% chance to parry incoming melee attacks against like level foes in stance offensive (https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Parry) Assume Aspect:Mantis aids nicely with both weapons chances to parry.

'''Bolt Defenses''': Two Weapon Combat style does not offer good bolt defenses (no shield). So, as a ranger we adapt. The ranger spell list and minor spell list will provide a great amount of assistance to our Bolt DS. I would like to focus on those that you can use to finesse things and make your twc ranger even more protected. Minor Spirit Air wall 102, and Fog 106 can be used as well as seeking areas when hunting that provide natural defenses. Your wall of thorns blocking incoming attacks,(later boosted by Aspect Porcupine), and Evasion/dodge (boosted by serpent) however will all aid you greatly. ''Assume Aspect Mantis with a runestaff will parry bolts/arrows as well. (test it)'' Rotating aspects when mana is not the main issue.

'''NOTE: The following Runestaff comments are for much later down the line but am tossing it in here for reference''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying Bolts and arrows. Test it out if you find the need for more bolt defenses beyond what you get from Wall of Thorns or out right evasion.

'''Evade''' Can be boosted by your Aspect Serpent, I saw a really significant increase here from 21% to 40%.

==Runestaff test==
'''NOTE''': Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This Would require runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider.

An 800 bolt attack repitition test with the mage Drafix's assistance has shown my ranger's wall of thorns stopped about 21% of incoming bolt attacks. 24% were then outright evaded (wearing my hauberk or not wearing it was the same due to armor over training), (this increased to 40% evaded with Aspect Serpent running) and then after that 7% were blocked by the runestaff. Giving an over all total of 51%+ to 67% stopped/evaded/parried.

Also, the % was based on bolt spell by like level caster. I believe the Ball spells and Arrows the % to parry are different. And did not do a deep test of those at this time.

The rune staff below is +8 deringo. (a staff with eblade on it would cost next to nothing) (test for this posting was 8 of 20 and 10 of 27) using mantis against ball spells

''Sepher gestures at you''.

Sepher hurls a roaring ball of fire at you!

You deflect the bolt with your runestaff!

''Sepher nocks a dull black wooden arrow fletched with white-spotted falcon feathers in his sephwir long bow.'' (10/35 against arrows)

Sepher fires a dull black arrow at you!

You deflect the arrow with your runestaff!

The arrow disappears into the local environs.

Now I certainly do not expect everyone using TWC to invest in runestaves. But please remember that was 7% of the over all total attacks, not the ones that got past wall of thorns or were evaded outright) the runestaff seemed to parry about 11% of the bolts it had a chance to parry. So, if bolts become an issue, it is something to consider since you already have magical training as a semi and have a Bolt Weakness using Two weapons. You could also pick up a shield and train it post cap. But this utilizes skills you have most likely already trained in.

==Society==

(Anyone want to toss in pro-cons please do so)

Aurach is a member of Voln. Two Weapons against the many non-critable undead has worked rather well.

==recap==
So, this is my thoughts on two weapon using rangers. I will be adding more as thoughts come to me. I find the capped version to be where my character really came into his own. There seemed to be a non-stop struggle to survive when I was hunting early on. But so much has changed since then. I think a two weapon combat ranger at this point would have great strengths right from the beginning.

John mind behind
Aurach Moonshadew the Gallant, 'two-blader' of Auld Ta'Faendryl

==See Also==
*[[Ranger]] (main article)
*[[A beginner's guide to playing a ranger]]
http://www.play.net/gs4/info/skills.asp#twoweaponcombat
Evade
Parry

==References==
*[http://www.play.net/gs4/info/professions/rangers.asp Ranger profession on Play.net]

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Aurach's Two Weapon Combat Guide: A Ranger's Perspective

2015-02-20T13:02:23Z

SHEN1: /* Runestaff test */

[[Image:Twcranger.jpg|thumb|Aurach]]

==The Two Weapon Combat Ranger==

The whirling scimitars of Drizzsdt Do'Urden, The 'mountain charge to rescue' in Last of the Mohican's using Hatchet and knife, Lancelot's dual short swords in King Arthur, all bring the vision of our champion, the Two Weapon Combat Ranger. A challenging training path, with strong reliance on attack and speed.

Very few rangers take this path. It is up hill both ways, in the snow, at night, crossing a frigid streams, without boots.

Why are you still reading?

Let me say this one more time. It is very costly in training points, it delays most other skills/spells and you have little bolt defense. You may find training the TWC combat skill and adjusting to this style at cap MUCH easier.

If you are still reading you are probably hard headed enough.

However, other guides have said there is really no 'bad' way to train a ranger. Two weapon combat from a rangers birth is probably really close however.

Good Luck

==Why two weapons?==

Most ambushing rangers and archers can kill with one well placed strike. So too can the two weapon ambushing ranger, but the world has creatures that cannot be critical struck and only massive raw damage will suffice.

Enter our ranger hero, weapon in each hand, spell at the ready. 'Guts, 'Glory, 'Aspects'

For me the style has always been about using your magics and blades together. This is really not a stand in the open and get beat on type of style. You can do that however. I prefer the use of good timing, and a rather large variety of spells to maneuver your opponents into situations favorable to you.

Your greatest strength is your variety of magics, combat maneuver skills, and weapons combined.

From the skills and stats a Ranger can be a very good two weapon user. Great spirit warding, good variety of spells, low costs to train a variety of skills, some of the best attack spells for a semi, great defensive spells all make for a really versatile and easily adjustable character.

While not recommended to try from early on, this style when combined with ambushing and Multi Opponent Combat is absolutely devastating.

==Ranger Spells==
The ranger spell list provides some unique benefits for TWC rangers, both directly and indirectly.

[[606|Phoen's strength (606)]] gives a phantom increase of +10 to [[Strength|strength]] bonus. Strength is incredibly important to keep RT down (encumbrance really affects the left hand weapon).

[[Mobility (618)]] offers a large bonus to Dodge, a TWC rangers primary defense

[[Camouflage (608)]] a +30 AS bonus from camouflage for multiple attacks. Yes both weapons get the bonus from a ranger leaping to ambush or 'plain attacking' from a camo 608 position, so this can be used by non ambusher for the boost if your quick, so you at least get the +30 AS bonus.

[[Wall of Thorns (640)]] of great assistance to a TWC ranger, the best defense is having the trees block for you and not getting hit at all.

[[650|Assume aspect (650)]] is custom made for a TWC ranger, allowing you to tweak your form to meet the current threat or boost a weakness. (alternating between rat and wolf for example maintains a boost to your agi/dex)

All Rangers also benefit from a plethora of set up spells that can complement any weapon style, such as [[Sounds (607)]], [[610|Tangle weed (610)]] , [[Call Swarm (615)]] and Sunburst (609) (note the effects vs undead)

TWC rangers will find great use in the [[Minor Spiritual]] spell circle, especially [[Spirit Barrier (102)]] and [[106|Spirit fog (106)]], to provide added defenses. Note that 102 gives a penalty to [[Attack strength|AS]] so you could [[STOP (verb)|STOP 102]], which removes the spell so you can attack without the penalty making for a creative low mana Shield/stance dance option, also breeze will eliminate 106, however that is mana intensive.

==Two Weapon Combat Training==
The introduction of Fix skills and Fix Stats, will allows new rangers to tweak their efforts with great ease. I suggest Maintain your core training, finesse skills/Stats as starting Stats have increased and allow you to gain more your training points while boosting over all stat totals. (this is an entire topic all it's own) (word smith this it isn't sounding right)

===Two Weapon Combat Ranger Core Training===

This is your base training that every two weapon ranger should have each level.

*2x (6/4) [[Combat Maneuvers]]: When points are too tight, you can skip some here if you have to, try to keep singling.
*2x (9/6) [[Two Weapon Combat]]:
*2x (9/3) [[Edged Weapons]] (Blunt weapons can be used, slightly increased training cost, do not over look this if it appeals to your style of ranger)
*1x (4/0) [[Physical Fitness]]: (no shield, you will be getting hit, you need this)
*1x (7/5) [[Dodge]]
*1x (0/5) [[Harness Power]]
*1x (0/17) [[Spell Research]]: (May have to skip spells a few levels until training points work out)
*1x (0/3) [[Perception]]: take higher at cap (if you can single, go for it, I think you will be strapped for points: You can skip this when you need to)

Total of (35/43)

===TWC Ranger Discreet Training===

These values are plateaus you should strive to reach at some point in your career.

*1x (5/0) [[Armor Use]]: (Aurach's goal was 110 ranks for a chain hauberk and then 170 ranks post cap to reduce maneuver penalties in hauberk)
*5 ranks of [[Multi Opponent Combat]] (10/4) as soon as you can fit it in. (30 ranks allows 2 strikes per weapon on a target, 55 ranks allows you to focus mstrike 3 times per weapon on a single target) Reduces effects of being outnumbered.
*50 Ranks in [[Climbing]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make climb checks prior to that.
*50 Ranks in [[Swimming]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make swim checks prior to that.
*[[Spiritual Lore, Blessings]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after Getting 650
*[[Spiritual Lore, Summoning]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after getting 650
(your 1 rank of these two lores gives slight increases in many of your spells, low training point cost boosts, 5 ranks is Blessing lore is very interesting also as it will allow your 117 spirit strike to have a 3% chance to affect two strikes for you being both weapons)

===Spell Research===

My preferred training order: for a two weapon build
601, 101-103, 602-618, 104-107, 619-650, 108-130, Ranger ranks for life 'Aurach Moonshadew'

(other rangers prefer minor spirit 140 and ranger 162 which provides the best CS)

I prefer to get hues, then 101-103, I like having the low mana shield of 102 with this type of character.
After that Mobility is the goal. Then getting deep blues. Then I would head for Aspect.
This is simply my preference looking back on my build.

===Optional Additional Training===

A list of the most common skills to use your additional training points on.

*1x [[Ambush]] when you can fit the ranks in, 1x at cap (more as you feel the need) (I am singled at cap currently and do very well ambushing)
*2x [[Stalking and Hiding]] – If you plan to ambush at cap you will want to 2x this, post cap
*1x-2x [[Survival]] – This will aid skinning, foraging, and overland movement
*1x-2x [[First Aid]] – This will aid in skinning and reduce herb eating RT
*Spiritual Lore: Blessing and Summoning ranger preference, I think it should be gained after ranger spells are maxed, however 5 ranks of blessing lore will allow a 3% chance to have MS117 affect two strikes low chance but is nice when it happens)
*[[Magic Item Use]] I regret not having this 1x earlier. I did it post cap and love it.
*[[Arcane Symbols]] I regret not having this 1x earlier (immediately after MIU).
*15 ranks [[Spiritual Mana Control]] as soon as you learn it is fun to share and play well with others. 15 ranks is enough to share with most Older Spirit mana using folks (25 ranks post cap if you like).

===Post Cap Goals===

*2x Physical Fitness (immediately at cap or earlier)
*2x [[Combat Maneuvers]] (At cap or earlier)
*2x [[Dodge]] (after maxing ranger spells, maybe)
*55 ranks [[Multi-Opponent Combat]] for 6 strikes focused on a single target
[[Thrown Weapons]] may be a very interesting post cap goal, since you will throw both weapons and you already have the required support skill ([[TWC]], [[Perception]], Combat Maneuvers)

[[Blessing Lore ]]

[[Summoning Lore]]

'''[[Combat Maneuver]] skills (mine at cap at moment) Post Cap goals:'''
{|{{prettytable}}
|-style = "background:#DDD; color: blue"
!Skill
!Mnemonic
!Ranks
|-align=center
|[[Cunning Defense]]
|cdefense
|5
|-align=center
|[[Combat Movement]]
|cmovement
|5
|-align=center
|[[Hamstring]]
|hamstring
|5
|-align=center
|[[Disarm Weapon]]
|disarm
|5
|-align=center
|[[Shadow Mastery]]
|smastery
|5
|-align=center
|[[Sweep]]
|sweep
|1
|-align=center
|[[Garrote]]
|garrote
|1
|-align=center
|[[Subdual Strike]]
|sstrike
|1
|}

*TWC rangers will find these useful (order of preference for me was Cdefense, Cmovement, Hamstring, Disarm, Smastery)

This is simply how Aurach trained Combat maneuver skills.

==Race==
I would hope race depends largely on the vision you have for your ranger. That being said, Agility and Dexterity are very important to reduce RT. A race that has strength and can manage encumbrance would also be wise.

==What Armor to use?==
The best armor you can afford.

My advice is Double leather, then Brigandine, then hauberk, for Full body coverage. I like the full body coverage as it allows me to wear arm/leg greaves, helm, and aventails, if I choose with no added penalties. I kept my eye out for enhancives on the added armor pieces. Padding crit or damage is always a good choice if you can afford it.

My cap armor is an imflass chain hauberk, with added helm, arm and leg greaves and aventail, it has 11% hinderance. I find the failure acceptable to my style. Some will not. A paladin for fluidity would be fantastic. I also kept training armor to reduce maneuver penalties. Armor skill is also a secondary skill for redux so serves some double duty.

==Keeping your RT manageable==

You will find the links below for Agi/Dex and Two weapon combat RT. The RT is probably the most confusing part of using two weapons. I say this because from time to time, it does not match the documents. Weapon weights, base speed, Agi/Dex, encumberance, and Character strength all affect your RT. (Assume Aspect, Phoen's Strength, Enhancive items, and Wizard strength will be the greatest help here)

To really enjoy and work the two weapon using ranger. You will need to test various combinations of weapons. Early on you might try short sword and gauche for the gauches added DS when used in off hand. Later on perhaps a long sword/short sword when you want to hit harder and keep RT manageable. Too many weapons to list.

==A Rangers Weapon Sets==
There are many weapons to try. Your ranger will have two or possibly three different sets as he heads out on patrol at certain points in thier career. This is where you get to show your rangers individuality.

My carry weapons at cap are: longsword/shortsword set, two hand axe set, and a dagger set. This is not based on min maxing, it is more a collection of style, effectiveness vs heavy armor, and a couple speed weapons for when encumbered by heaps of treasure and skins.

Do not forget to look at blunt weapons if that is more appealing to you.

I can say, that this will be fun. Try all kinds of cheap sets of weapons to get what feels right.
This will evolve as Stats increase, better enhancive items are acquired, and weapon choice vs armor types are considered

So, what feels right now, may change at various training stages and against different types of armor types (critters).

Feras weapons, Flares, Ensorcellment, Weighting (crit and damage) can all boost your effectiveness. You hit twice as often and good combinations of the previous can add great advantages to your ranger.

https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Edged_Weapons
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Roundtime
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat

==TWC Defenses==

'All about that AS that AS , no defense, it's all about the AS'

Ok, so seriously, defenses as a two weapon using ranger. As usual we have some good options available.

'''TWC Parry DS:''' https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat
I cannot explain it better than is listed.

'''Stances:''' No really there are stances other than OFF and DEF. A good understanding of how you can adjust your stance to maintain adequate defense for the current threat and still provide you with enough offensive punch to down your enemies will really help. Your ranger spells have a great variety to help you to do this.

'''TWC Out Right Parry:''' each weapon will provide a 5% chance to parry incoming melee attacks against like level foes in stance offensive (https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Parry) Assume Aspect:Mantis aids nicely with both weapons chances to parry.

'''Bolt Defenses''': Two Weapon Combat style does not offer good bolt defenses (no shield). So, as a ranger we adapt. The ranger spell list and minor spell list will provide a great amount of assistance to our Bolt DS. I would like to focus on those that you can use to finesse things and make your twc ranger even more protected. Minor Spirit Air wall 102, and Fog 106 can be used as well as seeking areas when hunting that provide natural defenses. Your wall of thorns blocking incoming attacks,(later boosted by Aspect Porcupine), and Evasion/dodge (boosted by serpent) however will all aid you greatly. ''Assume Aspect Mantis with a runestaff will parry bolts/arrows as well. (test it)'' Rotating aspects when mana is not the main issue.

'''NOTE: The following Runestaff comments are for much later down the line but am tossing it in here for reference''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying Bolts and arrows. Test it out if you find the need for more bolt defenses beyond what you get from Wall of Thorns or out right evasion.

'''Evade''' Can be boosted by your Aspect Serpent, I saw a really significant increase here from 21% to 40%.

==Runestaff test==
'''NOTE''': Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This Would require runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider.

An 800 bolt attack repitition test with the mage Drafix's assistance has shown my ranger's wall of thorns stopped about 21% of incoming bolt attacks. 24% were then outright evaded (wearing my hauberk or not wearing it was the same due to armor over training), (this increased to 40% evaded with Aspect Serpent running) and then after that 7% were blocked by the runestaff. Giving an over all total of 51%+ to 67% stopped/evaded/parried.

Also, the % was based on bolt spell by like level caster. I believe the Ball spells and Arrows the % to parry are different. And did not do a deep test of those at this time.

The rune staff below is +8 deringo. (a staff with eblade on it would cost next to nothing) (test for this posting was 8 of 20 and 10 of 27) using mantis against ball spells

''Sepher gestures at you''.

Sepher hurls a roaring ball of fire at you!

You deflect the bolt with your runestaff!

''Sepher nocks a dull black wooden arrow fletched with white-spotted falcon feathers in his sephwir long bow.'' (10/35 against arrows)

Sepher fires a dull black arrow at you!

You deflect the arrow with your runestaff!

The arrow disappears into the local environs.

Now I certainly do not expect everyone using TWC to invest in runestaves. But please remember that was 7% of the over all total attacks, not the ones that got past wall of thorns or were evaded outright) the runestaff seemed to parry about 11% of the bolts it had a chance to parry. So, if bolts become an issue, it is something to consider since you already have magical training as a semi and have a Bolt Weakness using Two weapons. You could also pick up a shield and train it post cap. But this utilizes skills you have most likely already trained in.

==Society==

(Anyone want to toss in pro-cons please do so)

Aurach is a member of Voln. Two Weapons against the many non-critable undead has worked rather well.

==recap==
So, this is my thoughts on two weapon using rangers. I will be adding more as thoughts come to me. I find the capped version to be where my character really came into his own. There seemed to be a non-stop struggle to survive when I was hunting early on. But so much has changed since then. I think a two weapon combat ranger at this point would have great strengths right from the beginning.

John
mind behind Aurach Moonshadew the Gallant, 'two-blader' of Auld Ta'Faendryl

==See Also==
*[[Ranger]] (main article)
*[[A beginner's guide to playing a ranger]]
http://www.play.net/gs4/info/skills.asp#twoweaponcombat
Evade
Parry

==References==
*[http://www.play.net/gs4/info/professions/rangers.asp Ranger profession on Play.net]

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Talk:Aurach's Two Weapon Combat Guide: A Ranger's Perspective

2015-02-20T13:01:03Z

SHEN1: /* Introduction blurb */

I added a few sections where they seemed appropriate. This makes working on different parts of the page much easier since you can edit a small section instead of the entire page at once. If you would like to remove some of the sections I have, you can edit the entire page and remove the "==" marks which create sections (adding more "=" creates increasingly small subsections). I also added a few links to some of the skills and spells mentioned and tried to tidy up the formatting (it was a bit borked when it came over, hopefully it's better now). Also, it's possible that the training stuff might look nice in tables, but I've gone with bullet points for now since that's simpler. I should point out that I've been writing a guide to [[Buff spells]], which includes a lot of the information on buff spells that's repeated here (with more, since I've also done up the MnS circle). Once the formatting is settled down on that, it should be easy to transclude here if desired. [[User:SARAH3|SARAH3]] ([[User talk:SARAH3|talk]]) 16:47, 16 February 2015 (CST)

:I guess I am going to toss this in here. All skills and spells are listed elsewhere. I am trying to focus on how my character used specific spells/skills available to his profession and style of training to meet the challenges a TWC character will face. Adding in a link to a buff guide after spells would be cool. Am really thankful for the editing help.--[[User:SHEN1|SHEN1]] ([[User talk:SHEN1|talk]]) 01:49, 17 February 2015 (CST)

::No problem! There are a few organizational things I'm not sure what to do, but it's a work in progress so that's okay. Also, if you want to sign your name at the end of your talk post, you can use <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> and you can indent with colons for clarity. :) [[User:SARAH3|SARAH3]] ([[User talk:SARAH3|talk]]) 20:49, 16 February 2015 (CST)

== Introduction blurb ==

I really hope I'm not stepping on any toes, but I thought it might be a good idea to mention (and link) rangers and two weapon combat in the first sentence of the article so I worked on the introduction text. I tried to preserve the original phrasing while unifying it and creating a smooth transition into the next section. I also tried to keep a similar tone, though it probably needs a snarky remark about sniping ranged rangers since I figured insulting more of the other ranger builds was a nice plan. :P [[User:SARAH3|SARAH3]] ([[User talk:SARAH3|talk]]) 06:07, 17 February 2015 (CST)

:I knew this was a bad idea. I have worked on this less than 24 hours and your rewriting my input. I am going back to hunting and minding my own damn business. Feel free to write the article, remove Aurach's name from title --[[User:SHEN1|SHEN1]] ([[User talk:SHEN1|talk]]) 07:22, 17 February 2015 (CST)

::Uh, I was just trying to be helpful. I left your text there so you could either remove mine manually if you didn't like it or just undo my edit (because it's a wiki). Sorry about the confusion and I did not mean to cause offense. [[User:SARAH3|SARAH3]] ([[User talk:SARAH3|talk]]) 10:02, 17 February 2015 (CST)

::I am sorry you feel discouraged, Aurach. Cross-edits should not happen at that rapid-fire pace I don't think, but Sarah and I were doing some amongst ourselves in the same room so I think it was one of these "click here" "click there" mistakes with some fallout. I think it's a reason she added sections, since I always insist either of us to edit one specific section at a time, etc. These are not meant to be excuses, only to hope you can see the honest mistake. We all think you were doing a swell job here and would like you to continue your work. Actually, wiki editing can be really fun, but it can be pretty frustrating, too! I tried to cover some of its aspects in my [[The_gswiki_Raging_Thrak|entertaining guide to gswiki]], which I try to approach with the philosophy of "Stop. Look. Think." (If you look at the history for that page, too, you can probably see something familiar which happened to me that happened to you...but you weren't in the same room so we're really sorry about that!) Sarah is genuinely sorry for putting you off. If your experience could shed any light to my Raging wiki guide, please feel free to make some changes or discuss with me. Maybe I should find a way to auto-fail people on the test and force them to read it all again? [[User:DAID|DAID]] ([[User talk:DAID|talk]]) 11:54, 17 February 2015 (CST)
::It's also neither here nor there, and I would never change the title of someone's page with their name in it, but tend to dislike putting my own character's name in guides. It's just my opinion, but that's how I did [[Popping boxes]] some time ago. One of my reasons, besides that I want to encourage other people to edit it, is that it's easier to wikilink ^_^ [[User:DAID|DAID]] ([[User talk:DAID|talk]]) 12:00, 17 February 2015 (CST)
:::Hipster [[Whirlin]] was putting his name on guides before it was cool... or uncool [[User:HJELTE|HJELTE]] ([[User talk:HJELTE|talk]]) 12:07, 17 February 2015 (CST)

Anyone know how to make the picture in the introduction visible? --[[User:SHEN1|SHEN1]] ([[User talk:SHEN1|talk]]) 17:37, 19 February 2015 (CST)
:Yes! I placed the caption 'Aurach' directly under the image. [[User:SPYRIDONM1|Mark]] ([[User talk:SPYRIDONM1|talk]]) 23:55, 19 February 2015 (CST)
:You can change it or remove it by editing the file link after '''thumb''' [[User:SPYRIDONM1|Mark]] ([[User talk:SPYRIDONM1|talk]]) 00:05, 20 February 2015 (CST)
Thank you Mark. --[[User:SHEN1|SHEN1]] ([[User talk:SHEN1|talk]]) 07:01, 20 February 2015 (CST)

Talk:Guides by Whirlin: Ferns, Furs, and Ferrets: Whirlin's Guide to Rangers

2015-02-20T01:28:37Z

SHEN1: Created page with "MOC may wish to mention the force on force defense benefit--~~~~"

MOC may wish to mention the force on force defense benefit--[[User:SHEN1|SHEN1]] ([[User talk:SHEN1|talk]]) 19:28, 19 February 2015 (CST)

Aurach's Two Weapon Combat Guide: A Ranger's Perspective

2015-02-20T00:45:41Z

SHEN1:

==The Two Weapon Combat Ranger==
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/File:Twcranger.jpg (need to add this in off to side at some point visibly)

The whirling scimitars of Drizzsdt Do'Urden, The 'mountain charge to rescue' in Last of the Mohican's using Hatchet and knife, Lancelot's dual short swords in King Arthur, all bring the vision of our champion, the Two Weapon Combat Ranger. A challenging training path, with strong reliance on attack and speed.

Very few rangers take this path. It is up hill both ways, in the snow, at night, crossing a frigid streams, without boots.

Why are you still reading?

Let me say this one more time. It is very costly in training points, it delays most other skills/spells and you have little bolt defense. You may find training the TWC combat skill and adjusting to this style at cap MUCH easier.

If you are still reading you are probably hard headed enough.

However, other guides have said there is really no 'bad' way to train a ranger. Two weapon combat from a rangers birth is probably really close however.

Good Luck

==Why two weapons?==

Most ambushing rangers and archers can kill with one well placed strike. So too can the two weapon ambushing ranger, but the world has creatures that cannot be critical struck and only massive raw damage will suffice.

Enter our ranger hero, weapon in each hand, spell at the ready. 'Guts, 'Glory, 'Aspects'

For me the style has always been about using your magics and blades together. This is really not a stand in the open and get beat on type of style. You can do that however. I prefer the use of good timing, and a rather large variety of spells to maneuver your opponents into situations favorable to you.

Your greatest strength is your variety of magics, combat maneuver skills, and weapons combined.

From the skills and stats a Ranger can be a very good two weapon user. Great spirit warding, good variety of spells, low costs to train a variety of skills, some of the best attack spells for a semi, great defensive spells all make for a really versatile and easily adjustable character.

While not recommended to try from early on, this style when combined with ambushing and Multi Opponent Combat is absolutely devastating.

==Ranger Spells==
The ranger spell list provides some unique benefits for TWC rangers, both directly and indirectly.

[[606|Phoen's strength (606)]] gives a phantom increase of +10 to [[Strength|strength]] bonus. Strength is incredibly important to keep RT down (encumbrance really affects the left hand weapon).

[[Mobility (618)]] offers a large bonus to Dodge, a TWC rangers primary defense

[[Camouflage (608)]] a +30 AS bonus from camouflage for multiple attacks. Yes both weapons get the bonus from a ranger leaping to ambush or 'plain attacking' from a camo 608 position, so this can be used by non ambusher for the boost if your quick, so you at least get the +30 AS bonus.

[[Wall of Thorns (640)]] of great assistance to a TWC ranger, the best defense is having the trees block for you and not getting hit at all.

[[650|Assume aspect (650)]] is custom made for a TWC ranger, allowing you to tweak your form to meet the current threat or boost a weakness. (alternating between rat and wolf for example maintains a boost to your agi/dex)

All Rangers also benefit from a plethora of set up spells that can complement any weapon style, such as [[Sounds (607)]], [[610|Tangle weed (610)]] , [[Call Swarm (615)]] and Sunburst (609) (note the effects vs undead)

TWC rangers will find great use in the [[Minor Spiritual]] spell circle, especially [[Spirit Barrier (102)]] and [[106|Spirit fog (106)]], to provide added defenses. Note that 102 gives a penalty to [[Attack strength|AS]] so you could [[STOP (verb)|STOP 102]], which removes the spell so you can attack without the penalty making for a creative low mana Shield/stance dance option, also breeze will eliminate 106, however that is mana intensive.

==Two Weapon Combat Training==
The introduction of Fix skills and Fix Stats, will allows new rangers to tweak their efforts with great ease. I suggest Maintain your core training, finesse skills/Stats as starting Stats have increased and allow you to gain more your training points while boosting over all stat totals. (this is an entire topic all it's own) (word smith this it isn't sounding right)

===Two Weapon Combat Ranger Core Training===

This is your base training that every two weapon ranger should have each level.

*2x (6/4) [[Combat Maneuvers]]: When points are too tight, you can skip some here if you have to, try to keep singling.
*2x (9/6) [[Two Weapon Combat]]:
*2x (9/3) [[Edged Weapons]] (Blunt weapons can be used, slightly increased training cost, do not over look this if it appeals to your style of ranger)
*1x (4/0) [[Physical Fitness]]: (no shield, you will be getting hit, you need this)
*1x (7/5) [[Dodge]]
*1x (0/5) [[Harness Power]]
*1x (0/17) [[Spell Research]]: (May have to skip spells a few levels until training points work out)
*1x (0/3) [[Perception]]: take higher at cap (if you can single, go for it, I think you will be strapped for points: You can skip this when you need to)

Total of (35/43)

===TWC Ranger Discreet Training===

These values are plateaus you should strive to reach at some point in your career.

*1x (5/0) [[Armor Use]]: (Aurach's goal was 110 ranks for a chain hauberk and then 170 ranks post cap to reduce maneuver penalties in hauberk)
*5 ranks of [[Multi Opponent Combat]] (10/4) as soon as you can fit it in. (30 ranks allows 2 strikes per weapon on a target, 55 ranks allows you to focus mstrike 3 times per weapon on a single target) Reduces effects of being outnumbered.
*50 Ranks in [[Climbing]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make climb checks prior to that.
*50 Ranks in [[Swimming]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make swim checks prior to that.
*[[Spiritual Lore, Blessings]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after Getting 650
*[[Spiritual Lore, Summoning]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after getting 650
(your 1 rank of these two lores gives slight increases in many of your spells, low training point cost boosts, 5 ranks is Blessing lore is very interesting also as it will allow your 117 spirit strike to have a 3% chance to affect two strikes for you being both weapons)

===Spell Research===

My preferred training order: for a two weapon build
601, 101-103, 602-618, 104-107, 619-650, 108-130, Ranger ranks for life 'Aurach Moonshadew'

(other rangers prefer minor spirit 140 and ranger 162 which provides the best CS)

I prefer to get hues, then 101-103, I like having the low mana shield of 102 with this type of character.
After that Mobility is the goal. Then getting deep blues. Then I would head for Aspect.
This is simply my preference looking back on my build.

===Optional Additional Training===

A list of the most common skills to use your additional training points on.

*1x [[Ambush]] when you can fit the ranks in, 1x at cap (more as you feel the need) (I am singled at cap currently and do very well ambushing)
*2x [[Stalking and Hiding]] – If you plan to ambush at cap you will want to 2x this, post cap
*1x-2x [[Survival]] – This will aid skinning, foraging, and overland movement
*1x-2x [[First Aid]] – This will aid in skinning and reduce herb eating RT
*Spiritual Lore: Blessing and Summoning ranger preference, I think it should be gained after ranger spells are maxed, however 5 ranks of blessing lore will allow a 3% chance to have MS117 affect two strikes low chance but is nice when it happens)
*[[Magic Item Use]] I regret not having this 1x earlier. I did it post cap and love it.
*[[Arcane Symbols]] I regret not having this 1x earlier (immediately after MIU).
*15 ranks [[Spiritual Mana Control]] as soon as you learn it is fun to share and play well with others. 15 ranks is enough to share with most Older Spirit mana using folks (25 ranks post cap if you like).

===Post Cap Goals===

*2x Physical Fitness (immediately at cap or earlier)
*2x [[Combat Maneuvers]] (At cap or earlier)
*2x [[Dodge]] (after maxing ranger spells, maybe)
*55 ranks [[Multi-Opponent Combat]] for 6 strikes focused on a single target
[[Thrown Weapons]] may be a very interesting post cap goal, since you will throw both weapons and you already have the required support skill ([[TWC]], [[Perception]], Combat Maneuvers)

[[Blessing Lore ]]

[[Summoning Lore]]

'''[[Combat Maneuver]] skills (mine at cap at moment) Post Cap goals:'''
{|{{prettytable}}
|-style = "background:#DDD; color: blue"
!Skill
!Mnemonic
!Ranks
|-align=center
|[[Cunning Defense]]
|cdefense
|5
|-align=center
|[[Combat Movement]]
|cmovement
|5
|-align=center
|[[Hamstring]]
|hamstring
|5
|-align=center
|[[Disarm Weapon]]
|disarm
|5
|-align=center
|[[Shadow Mastery]]
|smastery
|5
|-align=center
|[[Sweep]]
|sweep
|1
|-align=center
|[[Garrote]]
|garrote
|1
|-align=center
|[[Subdual Strike]]
|sstrike
|1
|}

*TWC rangers will find these useful (order of preference for me was Cdefense, Cmovement, Hamstring, Disarm, Smastery)

This is simply how Aurach trained Combat maneuver skills.

==Race==
I would hope race depends largely on the vision you have for your ranger. That being said, Agility and Dexterity are very important to reduce RT. A race that has strength and can manage encumbrance would also be wise.

==What Armor to use?==
The best armor you can afford.

My advice is Double leather, then Brigandine, then hauberk, for Full body coverage. I like the full body coverage as it allows me to wear arm/leg greaves, helm, and aventails, if I choose with no added penalties. I kept my eye out for enhancives on the added armor pieces. Padding crit or damage is always a good choice if you can afford it.

My cap armor is an imflass chain hauberk, with added helm, arm and leg greaves and aventail, it has 11% hinderance. I find the failure acceptable to my style. Some will not. A paladin for fluidity would be fantastic. I also kept training armor to reduce maneuver penalties. Armor skill is also a secondary skill for redux so serves some double duty.

==Keeping your RT manageable==

You will find the links below for Agi/Dex and Two weapon combat RT. The RT is probably the most confusing part of using two weapons. I say this because from time to time, it does not match the documents. Weapon weights, base speed, Agi/Dex, encumberance, and Character strength all affect your RT. (Assume Aspect, Phoen's Strength, Enhancive items, and Wizard strength will be the greatest help here)

To really enjoy and work the two weapon using ranger. You will need to test various combinations of weapons. Early on you might try short sword and gauche for the gauches added DS when used in off hand. Later on perhaps a long sword/short sword when you want to hit harder and keep RT manageable. Too many weapons to list.

==A Rangers Weapon Sets==
There are many weapons to try. Your ranger will have two or possibly three different sets as he heads out on patrol at certain points in thier career. This is where you get to show your rangers individuality.

My carry weapons at cap are: longsword/shortsword set, two hand axe set, and a dagger set. This is not based on min maxing, it is more a collection of style, effectiveness vs heavy armor, and a couple speed weapons for when encumbered by heaps of treasure and skins.

Do not forget to look at blunt weapons if that is more appealing to you.

I can say, that this will be fun. Try all kinds of cheap sets of weapons to get what feels right.
This will evolve as Stats increase, better enhancive items are acquired, and weapon choice vs armor types are considered

So, what feels right now, may change at various training stages and against different types of armor types (critters).

Feras weapons, Flares, Ensorcellment, Weighting (crit and damage) can all boost your effectiveness. You hit twice as often and good combinations of the previous can add great advantages to your ranger.

https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Edged_Weapons
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Roundtime
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat

==TWC Defenses==

'All about that AS that AS , no defense, it's all about the AS'

Ok, so seriously, defenses as a two weapon using ranger. As usual we have some good options available.

'''TWC Parry DS:''' https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat
I cannot explain it better than is listed.

'''Stances:''' No really there are stances other than OFF and DEF. A good understanding of how you can adjust your stance to maintain adequate defense for the current threat and still provide you with enough offensive punch to down your enemies will really help. Your ranger spells have a great variety to help you to do this.

'''TWC Out Right Parry:''' each weapon will provide a 5% chance to parry incoming melee attacks against like level foes in stance offensive (https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Parry) Assume Aspect:Mantis aids nicely with both weapons chances to parry.

'''Bolt Defenses''': Two Weapon Combat style does not offer good bolt defenses (no shield). So, as a ranger we adapt. The ranger spell list and minor spell list will provide a great amount of assistance to our Bolt DS. I would like to focus on those that you can use to finesse things and make your twc ranger even more protected. Minor Spirit Air wall 102, and Fog 106 can be used as well as seeking areas when hunting that provide natural defenses. Your wall of thorns blocking incoming attacks,(later boosted by Aspect Porcupine), and Evasion/dodge (boosted by serpent) however will all aid you greatly. ''Assume Aspect Mantis with a runestaff will parry bolts/arrows as well. (test it)'' Rotating aspects when mana is not the main issue.

'''NOTE: The following Runestaff comments are for much later down the line but am tossing it in here for reference''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying Bolts and arrows. Test it out if you find the need for more bolt defenses beyond what you get from Wall of Thorns or out right evasion.

'''Evade''' Can be boosted by your Aspect Serpent, I saw a really significant increase here from 21% to 40%.

==Runestaff test==
'''NOTE''': Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This Would require runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider.

An 800 attack test with the mage Drafix's assistance has shown my ranger's wall of thorns stopped about 21% of incoming bolt attacks. 24% were then outright evaded (wearing my hauberk or not wearing it was the same due to armor over training), (this increased to 40% evaded with Aspect Serpent running) and then after that 7% were blocked by the runestaff. Giving an over all total of 51%+ to 67% stopped/evaded/parried.

Also, the % was based on bolt spell by like level caster. I believe the Ball spells and Arrows the % to parry are different. And did not do a deep test of those at this time.

The rune staff below is +8 deringo. (a staff with eblade on it would cost next to nothing) (test for this posting was 8 of 20 and 10 of 27) using mantis against ball spells

''Sepher gestures at you''.

Sepher hurls a roaring ball of fire at you!

You deflect the bolt with your runestaff!

''Sepher nocks a dull black wooden arrow fletched with white-spotted falcon feathers in his sephwir long bow.'' (10/35 against arrows)

Sepher fires a dull black arrow at you!

You deflect the arrow with your runestaff!

The arrow disappears into the local environs.

Now I certainly do not expect everyone using TWC to invest in runestaves. But please remember that was 7% of the over all total attacks, not the ones that got past wall of thorns or were evaded outright) the runestaff seemed to parry about 11% of the bolts it had a chance to parry. So, if bolts become an issue, it is something to consider since you already have magical training as a semi and have a Bolt Weakness using Two weapons. You could also pick up a shield and train it post cap. But this utilizes skills you have most likely already trained in.

==Society==

(Anyone want to toss in pro-cons please do so)

Aurach is a member of Voln. Two Weapons against the many non-critable undead has worked rather well.

==recap==
So, this is my thoughts on two weapon using rangers. I will be adding more as thoughts come to me. I find the capped version to be where my character really came into his own. There seemed to be a non-stop struggle to survive when I was hunting early on. But so much has changed since then. I think a two weapon combat ranger at this point would have great strengths right from the beginning.

John
mind behind Aurach Moonshadew the Gallant, 'two-blader' of Auld Ta'Faendryl

==See Also==
*[[Ranger]] (main article)
*[[A beginner's guide to playing a ranger]]
http://www.play.net/gs4/info/skills.asp#twoweaponcombat
Evade
Parry

==References==
*[http://www.play.net/gs4/info/professions/rangers.asp Ranger profession on Play.net]

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Aurach's Two Weapon Combat Guide: A Ranger's Perspective

2015-02-19T23:40:38Z

SHEN1: /* runestaff test */

{{Work-in-progress}}

==The Two Weapon Combat Ranger==
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/File:Twcranger.jpg (need to add this in off to side at some point visibly)

The whirling scimitars of Drizzsdt Do'Urden, The 'mountain charge to rescue' in Last of the Mohican's using Hatchet and knife, Lancelot's dual short swords in King Arthur, all bring the vision of our champion, the Two Weapon Combat Ranger. A challenging training path, with strong reliance on attack and speed.

Very few rangers take this path. It is up hill both ways, in the snow, at night, crossing a frigid streams, without boots.

Why are you still reading?

Let me say this one more time. It is very costly in training points, it delays most other skills/spells and you have little bolt defense. You may find training the TWC combat skill and adjusting to this style at cap MUCH easier.

If you are still reading you are probably hard headed enough.

However, other guides have said there is really no 'bad' way to train a ranger. Two weapon combat from a rangers birth is probably really close however.

Good Luck

==Why two weapons?==

Most ambushing rangers and archers can kill with one well placed strike. So too can the two weapon ambushing ranger, but the world has creatures that cannot be critical struck and only massive raw damage will suffice.

Enter our ranger hero, weapon in each hand, spell at the ready. 'Guts, 'Glory, 'Aspects'

For me the style has always been about using your magics and blades together. This is really not a stand in the open and get beat on type of style. You can do that however. I prefer the use of good timing, and a rather large variety of spells to maneuver your opponents into situations favorable to you.

Your greatest strength is your variety of magics, combat maneuver skills, and weapons combined.

From the skills and stats a Ranger can be a very good two weapon user. Great spirit warding, good variety of spells, low costs to train a variety of skills, some of the best attack spells for a semi, great defensive spells all make for a really versatile and easily adjustable character.

While not recommended to try from early on, this style when combined with ambushing and Multi Opponent Combat is absolutely devastating.

==Ranger Spells==
The ranger spell list provides some unique benefits for TWC rangers, both directly and indirectly.

[[606|Phoen's strength (606)]] gives a phantom increase of +10 to [[Strength|strength]] bonus. Strength is incredibly important to keep RT down (encumbrance really affects the left hand weapon).

[[Mobility (618)]] offers a large bonus to Dodge, a TWC rangers primary defense

[[Camouflage (608)]] a +30 AS bonus from camouflage for multiple attacks. Yes both weapons get the bonus from a ranger leaping to ambush or 'plain attacking' from a camo 608 position, so this can be used by non ambusher for the boost if your quick, so you at least get the +30 AS bonus.

[[Wall of Thorns (640)]] of great assistance to a TWC ranger, the best defense is having the trees block for you and not getting hit at all.

[[650|Assume aspect (650)]] is custom made for a TWC ranger, allowing you to tweak your form to meet the current threat or boost a weakness. (alternating between rat and wolf for example maintains a boost to your agi/dex)

All Rangers also benefit from a plethora of set up spells that can complement any weapon style, such as [[Sounds (607)]], [[610|Tangle weed (610)]] , [[Call Swarm (615)]] and Sunburst (609) (note the effects vs undead)

TWC rangers will find great use in the [[Minor Spiritual]] spell circle, especially [[Spirit Barrier (102)]] and [[106|Spirit fog (106)]], to provide added defenses. Note that 102 gives a penalty to [[Attack strength|AS]] so you could [[STOP (verb)|STOP 102]], which removes the spell so you can attack without the penalty making for a creative low mana Shield/stance dance option, also breeze will eliminate 106, however that is mana intensive.

==Two Weapon Combat Training==
The introduction of Fix skills and Fix Stats, will allows new rangers to tweak their efforts with great ease. I suggest Maintain your core training, finesse skills/Stats as starting Stats have increased and allow you to gain more your training points while boosting over all stat totals. (this is an entire topic all it's own) (word smith this it isn't sounding right)

===Two Weapon Combat Ranger Core Training===

This is your base training that every two weapon ranger should have each level.

*2x (6/4) [[Combat Maneuvers]]: When points are too tight, you can skip some here if you have to, try to keep singling.
*2x (9/6) [[Two Weapon Combat]]:
*2x (9/3) [[Edged Weapons]] (Blunt weapons can be used, slightly increased training cost, do not over look this if it appeals to your style of ranger)
*1x (4/0) [[Physical Fitness]]: (no shield, you will be getting hit, you need this)
*1x (7/5) [[Dodge]]
*1x (0/5) [[Harness Power]]
*1x (0/17) [[Spell Research]]: (May have to skip spells a few levels until training points work out)
*1x (0/3) [[Perception]]: take higher at cap (if you can single, go for it, I think you will be strapped for points: You can skip this when you need to)

Total of (35/43)

===TWC Ranger Discreet Training===

These values are plateaus you should strive to reach at some point in your career.

*1x (5/0) [[Armor Use]]: (Aurach's goal was 110 ranks for a chain hauberk and then 170 ranks post cap to reduce maneuver penalties in hauberk)
*5 ranks of [[Multi Opponent Combat]] (10/4) as soon as you can fit it in. (30 ranks allows 2 strikes per weapon on a target, 55 ranks allows you to focus mstrike 3 times per weapon on a single target) Reduces effects of being outnumbered.
*50 Ranks in [[Climbing]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make climb checks prior to that.
*50 Ranks in [[Swimming]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make swim checks prior to that.
*[[Spiritual Lore, Blessings]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after Getting 650
*[[Spiritual Lore, Summoning]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after getting 650
(your 1 rank of these two lores gives slight increases in many of your spells, low training point cost boosts, 5 ranks is Blessing lore is very interesting also as it will allow your 117 spirit strike to have a 3% chance to affect two strikes for you being both weapons)

===Spell Research===

My preferred training order: for a two weapon build
601, 101-103, 602-618, 104-107, 619-650, 108-130, Ranger ranks for life 'Aurach Moonshadew'

(other rangers prefer minor spirit 140 and ranger 162 which provides the best CS)

I prefer to get hues, then 101-103, I like having the low mana shield of 102 with this type of character.
After that Mobility is the goal. Then getting deep blues. Then I would head for Aspect.
This is simply my preference looking back on my build.

===Optional Additional Training===

A list of the most common skills to use your additional training points on.

*1x [[Ambush]] when you can fit the ranks in, 1x at cap (more as you feel the need) (I am singled at cap currently and do very well ambushing)
*2x [[Stalking and Hiding]] – If you plan to ambush at cap you will want to 2x this, post cap
*1x-2x [[Survival]] – This will aid skinning, foraging, and overland movement
*1x-2x [[First Aid]] – This will aid in skinning and reduce herb eating RT
*Spiritual Lore: Blessing and Summoning ranger preference, I think it should be gained after ranger spells are maxed, however 5 ranks of blessing lore will allow a 3% chance to have MS117 affect two strikes low chance but is nice when it happens)
*[[Magic Item Use]] I regret not having this 1x earlier. I did it post cap and love it.
*[[Arcane Symbols]] I regret not having this 1x earlier (immediately after MIU).
*15 ranks [[Spiritual Mana Control]] as soon as you learn it is fun to share and play well with others. 15 ranks is enough to share with most Older Spirit mana using folks (25 ranks post cap if you like).

===Post Cap Goals===

*2x Physical Fitness (immediately at cap or earlier)
*2x [[Combat Maneuvers]] (At cap or earlier)
*2x [[Dodge]] (after maxing ranger spells, maybe)
*55 ranks [[Multi-Opponent Combat]] for 6 strikes focused on a single target
[[Thrown Weapons]] may be a very interesting post cap goal, since you will throw both weapons and you already have the required support skill ([[TWC]], [[Perception]], Combat Maneuvers)

[[Blessing Lore ]]

[[Summoning Lore]]

'''[[Combat Maneuver]] skills (mine at cap at moment) Post Cap goals:'''
{|{{prettytable}}
|-style = "background:#DDD; color: blue"
!Skill
!Mnemonic
!Ranks
|-align=center
|[[Cunning Defense]]
|cdefense
|5
|-align=center
|[[Combat Movement]]
|cmovement
|5
|-align=center
|[[Hamstring]]
|hamstring
|5
|-align=center
|[[Disarm Weapon]]
|disarm
|5
|-align=center
|[[Shadow Mastery]]
|smastery
|5
|-align=center
|[[Sweep]]
|sweep
|1
|-align=center
|[[Garrote]]
|garrote
|1
|-align=center
|[[Subdual Strike]]
|sstrike
|1
|}

*TWC rangers will find these useful (order of preference for me was Cdefense, Cmovement, Hamstring, Disarm, Smastery)

This is simply how Aurach trained Combat maneuver skills.

==Race==
I would hope race depends largely on the vision you have for your ranger. That being said, Agility and Dexterity are very important to reduce RT. A race that has strength and can manage encumbrance would also be wise.

==What Armor to use?==
The best armor you can afford.

My advice is Double leather, then Brigandine, then hauberk, for Full body coverage. I like the full body coverage as it allows me to wear arm/leg greaves, helm, and aventails, if I choose with no added penalties. I kept my eye out for enhancives on the added armor pieces. Padding crit or damage is always a good choice if you can afford it.

My cap armor is an imflass chain hauberk, with added helm, arm and leg greaves and aventail, it has 11% hinderance. I find the failure acceptable to my style. Some will not. A paladin for fluidity would be fantastic. I also kept training armor to reduce maneuver penalties. Armor skill is also a secondary skill for redux so serves some double duty.

==Keeping your RT manageable==

You will find the links below for Agi/Dex and Two weapon combat RT. The RT is probably the most confusing part of using two weapons. I say this because from time to time, it does not match the documents. Weapon weights, base speed, Agi/Dex, encumberance, and Character strength all affect your RT. (Assume Aspect, Phoen's Strength, Enhancive items, and Wizard strength will be the greatest help here)

To really enjoy and work the two weapon using ranger. You will need to test various combinations of weapons. Early on you might try short sword and gauche for the gauches added DS when used in off hand. Later on perhaps a long sword/short sword when you want to hit harder and keep RT manageable. Too many weapons to list.

==A Rangers Weapon Sets==
There are many weapons to try. Your ranger will have two or possibly three different sets as he heads out on patrol at certain points in thier career. This is where you get to show your rangers individuality.

My carry weapons at cap are: longsword/shortsword set, two hand axe set, and a dagger set. This is not based on min maxing, it is more a collection of style, effectiveness vs heavy armor, and a couple speed weapons for when encumbered by heaps of treasure and skins.

Do not forget to look at blunt weapons if that is more appealing to you.

I can say, that this will be fun. Try all kinds of cheap sets of weapons to get what feels right.
This will evolve as Stats increase, better enhancive items are acquired, and weapon choice vs armor types are considered

So, what feels right now, may change at various training stages and against different types of armor types (critters).

Feras weapons, Flares, Ensorcellment, Weighting (crit and damage) can all boost your effectiveness. You hit twice as often and good combinations of the previous can add great advantages to your ranger.

https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Edged_Weapons
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Roundtime
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat

==TWC Defenses==

'All about that AS that AS , no defense, it's all about the AS'

Ok, so seriously, defenses as a two weapon using ranger. As usual we have some good options available.

'''TWC Parry DS:''' https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat
I cannot explain it better than is listed.

'''Stances:''' No really there are stances other than OFF and DEF. A good understanding of how you can adjust your stance to maintain adequate defense for the current threat and still provide you with enough offensive punch to down your enemies will really help. Your ranger spells have a great variety to help you to do this.

'''TWC Out Right Parry:''' each weapon will provide a 5% chance to parry incoming melee attacks against like level foes in stance offensive (https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Parry) Assume Aspect:Mantis aids nicely with both weapons chances to parry.

'''Bolt Defenses''': Two Weapon Combat style does not offer good bolt defenses (no shield). So, as a ranger we adapt. The ranger spell list and minor spell list will provide a great amount of assistance to our Bolt DS. I would like to focus on those that you can use to finesse things and make your twc ranger even more protected. Minor Spirit Air wall 102, and Fog 106 can be used as well as seeking areas when hunting that provide natural defenses. Your wall of thorns blocking incoming attacks,(later boosted by Aspect Porcupine), and Evasion/dodge (boosted by serpent) however will all aid you greatly. ''Assume Aspect Mantis with a runestaff will parry bolts/arrows as well. (test it)'' Rotating aspects when mana is not the main issue.

'''NOTE: The following Runestaff comments are for much later down the line but am tossing it in here for reference''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying Bolts and arrows. Test it out if you find the need for more bolt defenses beyond what you get from Wall of Thorns or out right evasion.

'''Evade''' Can be boosted by your Aspect Serpent, I saw a really significant increase here from 21% to 40%.

==Runestaff test==
'''NOTE''': Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This Would require runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider.

An 800 attack test with the mage Drafix's assistance has shown my ranger's wall of thorns stopped about 21% of incoming bolt attacks. 24% were then outright evaded (wearing my hauberk or not wearing it was the same due to armor over training), (this increased to 40% evaded with Aspect Serpent running) and then after that 7% were blocked by the runestaff. Giving an over all total of 51%+ to 67% stopped/evaded/parried.

Also, the % was based on bolt spell by like level caster. I believe the Ball spells and Arrows the % to parry are different. And did not do a deep test of those at this time.

The rune staff below is +8 deringo. (a staff with eblade on it would cost next to nothing) (test for this posting was 8 of 20 and 10 of 27) using mantis against ball spells

''Sepher gestures at you''.

Sepher hurls a roaring ball of fire at you!

You deflect the bolt with your runestaff!

''Sepher nocks a dull black wooden arrow fletched with white-spotted falcon feathers in his sephwir long bow.'' (10/35 against arrows)

Sepher fires a dull black arrow at you!

You deflect the arrow with your runestaff!

The arrow disappears into the local environs.

Now I certainly do not expect everyone using TWC to invest in runestaves. But please remember that was 7% of the over all total attacks, not the ones that got past wall of thorns or were evaded outright) the runestaff seemed to parry about 11% of the bolts it had a chance to parry. So, if bolts become an issue, it is something to consider since you already have magical training as a semi and have a Bolt Weakness using Two weapons. You could also pick up a shield and train it post cap. But this utilizes skills you have most likely already trained in.

==Society==

(Anyone want to toss in pro-cons please do so)

Aurach is a member of Voln. Two Weapons against the many non-critable undead has worked rather well.

==recap==
So, this is my thoughts on two weapon using rangers. I will be adding more as thoughts come to me. I find the capped version to be where my character really came into his own. There seemed to be a non-stop struggle to survive when I was hunting early on. But so much has changed since then. I think a two weapon combat ranger at this point would have great strengths right from the beginning.

John
mind behind Aurach Moonshadew the Gallant, 'two-blader' of Auld Ta'Faendryl

==See Also==
*[[Ranger]] (main article)
*[[A beginner's guide to playing a ranger]]
http://www.play.net/gs4/info/skills.asp#twoweaponcombat
Evade
Parry

==References==
*[http://www.play.net/gs4/info/professions/rangers.asp Ranger profession on Play.net]

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[[Category:Professional Guides]]

Talk:Aurach's Two Weapon Combat Guide: A Ranger's Perspective

2015-02-19T23:37:54Z

SHEN1:

Aurach's Two Weapon Combat Guide: A Ranger's Perspective

2015-02-19T23:30:49Z

SHEN1: /* runestaff test */

{{Work-in-progress}}

==The Two Weapon Combat Ranger==
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/File:Twcranger.jpg (need to add this in off to side at some point visibly)

The whirling scimitars of Drizzsdt Do'Urden, The 'mountain charge to rescue' in Last of the Mohican's using Hatchet and knife, Lancelot's dual short swords in King Arthur, all bring the vision of our champion, the Two Weapon Combat Ranger. A challenging training path, with strong reliance on attack and speed.

Very few rangers take this path. It is up hill both ways, in the snow, at night, crossing a frigid streams, without boots.

Why are you still reading?

Let me say this one more time. It is very costly in training points, it delays most other skills/spells and you have little bolt defense. You may find training the TWC combat skill and adjusting to this style at cap MUCH easier.

If you are still reading you are probably hard headed enough.

However, other guides have said there is really no 'bad' way to train a ranger. Two weapon combat from a rangers birth is probably really close however.

Good Luck

==Why two weapons?==

Most ambushing rangers and archers can kill with one well placed strike. So too can the two weapon ambushing ranger, but the world has creatures that cannot be critical struck and only massive raw damage will suffice.

Enter our ranger hero, weapon in each hand, spell at the ready. 'Guts, 'Glory, 'Aspects'

For me the style has always been about using your magics and blades together. This is really not a stand in the open and get beat on type of style. You can do that however. I prefer the use of good timing, and a rather large variety of spells to maneuver your opponents into situations favorable to you.

Your greatest strength is your variety of magics, combat maneuver skills, and weapons combined.

From the skills and stats a Ranger can be a very good two weapon user. Great spirit warding, good variety of spells, low costs to train a variety of skills, some of the best attack spells for a semi, great defensive spells all make for a really versatile and easily adjustable character.

While not recommended to try from early on, this style when combined with ambushing and Multi Opponent Combat is absolutely devastating.

==Ranger Spells==
The ranger spell list provides some unique benefits for TWC rangers, both directly and indirectly.

[[606|Phoen's strength (606)]] gives a phantom increase of +10 to [[Strength|strength]] bonus. Strength is incredibly important to keep RT down (encumbrance really affects the left hand weapon).

[[Mobility (618)]] offers a large bonus to Dodge, a TWC rangers primary defense

[[Camouflage (608)]] a +30 AS bonus from camouflage for multiple attacks. Yes both weapons get the bonus from a ranger leaping to ambush or 'plain attacking' from a camo 608 position, so this can be used by non ambusher for the boost if your quick, so you at least get the +30 AS bonus.

[[Wall of Thorns (640)]] of great assistance to a TWC ranger, the best defense is having the trees block for you and not getting hit at all.

[[650|Assume aspect (650)]] is custom made for a TWC ranger, allowing you to tweak your form to meet the current threat or boost a weakness. (alternating between rat and wolf for example maintains a boost to your agi/dex)

All Rangers also benefit from a plethora of set up spells that can complement any weapon style, such as [[Sounds (607)]], [[610|Tangle weed (610)]] , [[Call Swarm (615)]] and Sunburst (609) (note the effects vs undead)

TWC rangers will find great use in the [[Minor Spiritual]] spell circle, especially [[Spirit Barrier (102)]] and [[106|Spirit fog (106)]], to provide added defenses. Note that 102 gives a penalty to [[Attack strength|AS]] so you could [[STOP (verb)|STOP 102]], which removes the spell so you can attack without the penalty making for a creative low mana Shield/stance dance option, also breeze will eliminate 106, however that is mana intensive.

==Two Weapon Combat Training==
The introduction of Fix skills and Fix Stats, will allows new rangers to tweak their efforts with great ease. I suggest Maintain your core training, finesse skills/Stats as starting Stats have increased and allow you to gain more your training points while boosting over all stat totals. (this is an entire topic all it's own) (word smith this it isn't sounding right)

===Two Weapon Combat Ranger Core Training===

This is your base training that every two weapon ranger should have each level.

*2x (6/4) [[Combat Maneuvers]]: When points are too tight, you can skip some here if you have to, try to keep singling.
*2x (9/6) [[Two Weapon Combat]]:
*2x (9/3) [[Edged Weapons]] (Blunt weapons can be used, slightly increased training cost, do not over look this if it appeals to your style of ranger)
*1x (4/0) [[Physical Fitness]]: (no shield, you will be getting hit, you need this)
*1x (7/5) [[Dodge]]
*1x (0/5) [[Harness Power]]
*1x (0/17) [[Spell Research]]: (May have to skip spells a few levels until training points work out)
*1x (0/3) [[Perception]]: take higher at cap (if you can single, go for it, I think you will be strapped for points: You can skip this when you need to)

Total of (35/43)

===TWC Ranger Discreet Training===

These values are plateaus you should strive to reach at some point in your career.

*1x (5/0) [[Armor Use]]: (Aurach's goal was 110 ranks for a chain hauberk and then 170 ranks post cap to reduce maneuver penalties in hauberk)
*5 ranks of [[Multi Opponent Combat]] (10/4) as soon as you can fit it in. (30 ranks allows 2 strikes per weapon on a target, 55 ranks allows you to focus mstrike 3 times per weapon on a single target) Reduces effects of being outnumbered.
*50 Ranks in [[Climbing]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make climb checks prior to that.
*50 Ranks in [[Swimming]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make swim checks prior to that.
*[[Spiritual Lore, Blessings]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after Getting 650
*[[Spiritual Lore, Summoning]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after getting 650
(your 1 rank of these two lores gives slight increases in many of your spells, low training point cost boosts, 5 ranks is Blessing lore is very interesting also as it will allow your 117 spirit strike to have a 3% chance to affect two strikes for you being both weapons)

===Spell Research===

My preferred training order: for a two weapon build
601, 101-103, 602-618, 104-107, 619-650, 108-130, Ranger ranks for life 'Aurach Moonshadew'

(other rangers prefer minor spirit 140 and ranger 162 which provides the best CS)

I prefer to get hues, then 101-103, I like having the low mana shield of 102 with this type of character.
After that Mobility is the goal. Then getting deep blues. Then I would head for Aspect.
This is simply my preference looking back on my build.

===Optional Additional Training===

A list of the most common skills to use your additional training points on.

*1x [[Ambush]] when you can fit the ranks in, 1x at cap (more as you feel the need) (I am singled at cap currently and do very well ambushing)
*2x [[Stalking and Hiding]] – If you plan to ambush at cap you will want to 2x this, post cap
*1x-2x [[Survival]] – This will aid skinning, foraging, and overland movement
*1x-2x [[First Aid]] – This will aid in skinning and reduce herb eating RT
*Spiritual Lore: Blessing and Summoning ranger preference, I think it should be gained after ranger spells are maxed, however 5 ranks of blessing lore will allow a 3% chance to have MS117 affect two strikes low chance but is nice when it happens)
*[[Magic Item Use]] I regret not having this 1x earlier. I did it post cap and love it.
*[[Arcane Symbols]] I regret not having this 1x earlier (immediately after MIU).
*15 ranks [[Spiritual Mana Control]] as soon as you learn it is fun to share and play well with others. 15 ranks is enough to share with most Older Spirit mana using folks (25 ranks post cap if you like).

===Post Cap Goals===

*2x Physical Fitness (immediately at cap or earlier)
*2x [[Combat Maneuvers]] (At cap or earlier)
*2x [[Dodge]] (after maxing ranger spells, maybe)
*55 ranks [[Multi-Opponent Combat]] for 6 strikes focused on a single target
[[Thrown Weapons]] may be a very interesting post cap goal, since you will throw both weapons and you already have the required support skill ([[TWC]], [[Perception]], Combat Maneuvers)

[[Blessing Lore ]]

[[Summoning Lore]]

'''[[Combat Maneuver]] skills (mine at cap at moment) Post Cap goals:'''
{|{{prettytable}}
|-style = "background:#DDD; color: blue"
!Skill
!Mnemonic
!Ranks
|-align=center
|[[Cunning Defense]]
|cdefense
|5
|-align=center
|[[Combat Movement]]
|cmovement
|5
|-align=center
|[[Hamstring]]
|hamstring
|5
|-align=center
|[[Disarm Weapon]]
|disarm
|5
|-align=center
|[[Shadow Mastery]]
|smastery
|5
|-align=center
|[[Sweep]]
|sweep
|1
|-align=center
|[[Garrote]]
|garrote
|1
|-align=center
|[[Subdual Strike]]
|sstrike
|1
|}

*TWC rangers will find these useful (order of preference for me was Cdefense, Cmovement, Hamstring, Disarm, Smastery)

This is simply how Aurach trained Combat maneuver skills.

==Race==
I would hope race depends largely on the vision you have for your ranger. That being said, Agility and Dexterity are very important to reduce RT. A race that has strength and can manage encumbrance would also be wise.

==What Armor to use?==
The best armor you can afford.

My advice is Double leather, then Brigandine, then hauberk, for Full body coverage. I like the full body coverage as it allows me to wear arm/leg greaves, helm, and aventails, if I choose with no added penalties. I kept my eye out for enhancives on the added armor pieces. Padding crit or damage is always a good choice if you can afford it.

My cap armor is an imflass chain hauberk, with added helm, arm and leg greaves and aventail, it has 11% hinderance. I find the failure acceptable to my style. Some will not. A paladin for fluidity would be fantastic. I also kept training armor to reduce maneuver penalties. Armor skill is also a secondary skill for redux so serves some double duty.

==Keeping your RT manageable==

You will find the links below for Agi/Dex and Two weapon combat RT. The RT is probably the most confusing part of using two weapons. I say this because from time to time, it does not match the documents. Weapon weights, base speed, Agi/Dex, encumberance, and Character strength all affect your RT. (Assume Aspect, Phoen's Strength, Enhancive items, and Wizard strength will be the greatest help here)

To really enjoy and work the two weapon using ranger. You will need to test various combinations of weapons. Early on you might try short sword and gauche for the gauches added DS when used in off hand. Later on perhaps a long sword/short sword when you want to hit harder and keep RT manageable. Too many weapons to list.

==A Rangers Weapon Sets==
There are many weapons to try. Your ranger will have two or possibly three different sets as he heads out on patrol at certain points in thier career. This is where you get to show your rangers individuality.

My carry weapons at cap are: longsword/shortsword set, two hand axe set, and a dagger set. This is not based on min maxing, it is more a collection of style, effectiveness vs heavy armor, and a couple speed weapons for when encumbered by heaps of treasure and skins.

Do not forget to look at blunt weapons if that is more appealing to you.

I can say, that this will be fun. Try all kinds of cheap sets of weapons to get what feels right.
This will evolve as Stats increase, better enhancive items are acquired, and weapon choice vs armor types are considered

So, what feels right now, may change at various training stages and against different types of armor types (critters).

Feras weapons, Flares, Ensorcellment, Weighting (crit and damage) can all boost your effectiveness. You hit twice as often and good combinations of the previous can add great advantages to your ranger.

https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Edged_Weapons
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Roundtime
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat

==TWC Defenses==

'All about that AS that AS , no defense, it's all about the AS'

Ok, so seriously, defenses as a two weapon using ranger. As usual we have some good options available.

'''TWC Parry DS:''' https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat
I cannot explain it better than is listed.

'''Stances:''' No really there are stances other than OFF and DEF. A good understanding of how you can adjust your stance to maintain adequate defense for the current threat and still provide you with enough offensive punch to down your enemies will really help. Your ranger spells have a great variety to help you to do this.

'''TWC Out Right Parry:''' each weapon will provide a 5% chance to parry incoming melee attacks against like level foes in stance offensive (https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Parry) Assume Aspect:Mantis aids nicely with both weapons chances to parry.

'''Bolt Defenses''': Two Weapon Combat style does not offer good bolt defenses (no shield). So, as a ranger we adapt. The ranger spell list and minor spell list will provide a great amount of assistance to our Bolt DS. I would like to focus on those that you can use to finesse things and make your twc ranger even more protected. Minor Spirit Air wall 102, and Fog 106 can be used as well as seeking areas when hunting that provide natural defenses. Your wall of thorns blocking incoming attacks,(later boosted by Aspect Porcupine), and Evasion/dodge (boosted by serpent) however will all aid you greatly. ''Assume Aspect Mantis with a runestaff will parry bolts/arrows as well. (test it)'' Rotating aspects when mana is not the main issue.

'''NOTE: The following Runestaff comments are for much later down the line but am tossing it in here for reference''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying Bolts and arrows. Test it out if you find the need for more bolt defenses beyond what you get from Wall of Thorns or out right evasion.

'''Evade''' Can be boosted by your Aspect Serpent, I saw a really significant increase here from 21% to 40%.

==runestaff test==
'''NOTE''': Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This Would require runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider.

An 800 attack test with the mage Drafix's assistance has shown my ranger's wall of thorns stopped about 21% of incoming bolt attacks. 24% were then outright evaded (wearing my hauberk or not wearing it was the same due to armor over training), (this increased to 40% evaded with Aspect Serpent running) and then after that 7% were blocked by the runestaff. Giving an over all total of 51%+ to 67% stopped/evaded/parried.

Also, the % was based on bolt spell by like level caster. I believe the Ball spells and Arrows the % to parry are different. And did not do a deep test of those at this time.

The rune staff below is +8 deringo. (a staff with eblade on it would cost next to nothing) (test for this posting was 8 of 20 and 10 of 27) using mantis against ball spells

''Sepher gestures at you''.

Sepher hurls a roaring ball of fire at you!

You deflect the bolt with your runestaff!

''Sepher nocks a dull black wooden arrow fletched with white-spotted falcon feathers in his sephwir long bow.'' (10/35 against arrows)

Sepher fires a dull black arrow at you!

You deflect the arrow with your runestaff!

The arrow disappears into the local environs.

Now I certainly do not expect everyone using TWC to invest in runestaves. But please remember that was 7% of the over all total attacks, not the ones that got past wall of thorns or were evaded outright) the runestaff seemed to parry about 11% of the bolts it had a chance to parry. So, if bolts become an issue, it is something to consider since you already have magical training as a semi and have a Bolt Weakness using Two weapons. You could also pick up a shield and train it post cap. But this utilizes skills you have most likely already trained in.

==Society==

(Anyone want to toss in pro-cons please do so)

Aurach is a member of Voln. Two Weapons against the many non-critable undead has worked rather well.

==recap==
So, this is my thoughts on two weapon using rangers. I will be adding more as thoughts come to me. I find the capped version to be where my character really came into his own. There seemed to be a non-stop struggle to survive when I was hunting early on. But so much has changed since then. I think a two weapon combat ranger at this point would have great strengths right from the beginning.

John
mind behind Aurach Moonshadew the Gallant, 'two-blader' of Auld Ta'Faendryl

==See Also==
*[[Ranger]] (main article)
*[[A beginner's guide to playing a ranger]]
http://www.play.net/gs4/info/skills.asp#twoweaponcombat
Evade
Parry

==References==
*[http://www.play.net/gs4/info/professions/rangers.asp Ranger profession on Play.net]

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Aurach's Two Weapon Combat Guide: A Ranger's Perspective

2015-02-19T23:28:47Z

SHEN1: /* runestaff test */

{{Work-in-progress}}

==The Two Weapon Combat Ranger==
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/File:Twcranger.jpg (need to add this in off to side at some point visibly)

The whirling scimitars of Drizzsdt Do'Urden, The 'mountain charge to rescue' in Last of the Mohican's using Hatchet and knife, Lancelot's dual short swords in King Arthur, all bring the vision of our champion, the Two Weapon Combat Ranger. A challenging training path, with strong reliance on attack and speed.

Very few rangers take this path. It is up hill both ways, in the snow, at night, crossing a frigid streams, without boots.

Why are you still reading?

Let me say this one more time. It is very costly in training points, it delays most other skills/spells and you have little bolt defense. You may find training the TWC combat skill and adjusting to this style at cap MUCH easier.

If you are still reading you are probably hard headed enough.

However, other guides have said there is really no 'bad' way to train a ranger. Two weapon combat from a rangers birth is probably really close however.

Good Luck

==Why two weapons?==

Most ambushing rangers and archers can kill with one well placed strike. So too can the two weapon ambushing ranger, but the world has creatures that cannot be critical struck and only massive raw damage will suffice.

Enter our ranger hero, weapon in each hand, spell at the ready. 'Guts, 'Glory, 'Aspects'

For me the style has always been about using your magics and blades together. This is really not a stand in the open and get beat on type of style. You can do that however. I prefer the use of good timing, and a rather large variety of spells to maneuver your opponents into situations favorable to you.

Your greatest strength is your variety of magics, combat maneuver skills, and weapons combined.

From the skills and stats a Ranger can be a very good two weapon user. Great spirit warding, good variety of spells, low costs to train a variety of skills, some of the best attack spells for a semi, great defensive spells all make for a really versatile and easily adjustable character.

While not recommended to try from early on, this style when combined with ambushing and Multi Opponent Combat is absolutely devastating.

==Ranger Spells==
The ranger spell list provides some unique benefits for TWC rangers, both directly and indirectly.

[[606|Phoen's strength (606)]] gives a phantom increase of +10 to [[Strength|strength]] bonus. Strength is incredibly important to keep RT down (encumbrance really affects the left hand weapon).

[[Mobility (618)]] offers a large bonus to Dodge, a TWC rangers primary defense

[[Camouflage (608)]] a +30 AS bonus from camouflage for multiple attacks. Yes both weapons get the bonus from a ranger leaping to ambush or 'plain attacking' from a camo 608 position, so this can be used by non ambusher for the boost if your quick, so you at least get the +30 AS bonus.

[[Wall of Thorns (640)]] of great assistance to a TWC ranger, the best defense is having the trees block for you and not getting hit at all.

[[650|Assume aspect (650)]] is custom made for a TWC ranger, allowing you to tweak your form to meet the current threat or boost a weakness. (alternating between rat and wolf for example maintains a boost to your agi/dex)

All Rangers also benefit from a plethora of set up spells that can complement any weapon style, such as [[Sounds (607)]], [[610|Tangle weed (610)]] , [[Call Swarm (615)]] and Sunburst (609) (note the effects vs undead)

TWC rangers will find great use in the [[Minor Spiritual]] spell circle, especially [[Spirit Barrier (102)]] and [[106|Spirit fog (106)]], to provide added defenses. Note that 102 gives a penalty to [[Attack strength|AS]] so you could [[STOP (verb)|STOP 102]], which removes the spell so you can attack without the penalty making for a creative low mana Shield/stance dance option, also breeze will eliminate 106, however that is mana intensive.

==Two Weapon Combat Training==
The introduction of Fix skills and Fix Stats, will allows new rangers to tweak their efforts with great ease. I suggest Maintain your core training, finesse skills/Stats as starting Stats have increased and allow you to gain more your training points while boosting over all stat totals. (this is an entire topic all it's own) (word smith this it isn't sounding right)

===Two Weapon Combat Ranger Core Training===

This is your base training that every two weapon ranger should have each level.

*2x (6/4) [[Combat Maneuvers]]: When points are too tight, you can skip some here if you have to, try to keep singling.
*2x (9/6) [[Two Weapon Combat]]:
*2x (9/3) [[Edged Weapons]] (Blunt weapons can be used, slightly increased training cost, do not over look this if it appeals to your style of ranger)
*1x (4/0) [[Physical Fitness]]: (no shield, you will be getting hit, you need this)
*1x (7/5) [[Dodge]]
*1x (0/5) [[Harness Power]]
*1x (0/17) [[Spell Research]]: (May have to skip spells a few levels until training points work out)
*1x (0/3) [[Perception]]: take higher at cap (if you can single, go for it, I think you will be strapped for points: You can skip this when you need to)

Total of (35/43)

===TWC Ranger Discreet Training===

These values are plateaus you should strive to reach at some point in your career.

*1x (5/0) [[Armor Use]]: (Aurach's goal was 110 ranks for a chain hauberk and then 170 ranks post cap to reduce maneuver penalties in hauberk)
*5 ranks of [[Multi Opponent Combat]] (10/4) as soon as you can fit it in. (30 ranks allows 2 strikes per weapon on a target, 55 ranks allows you to focus mstrike 3 times per weapon on a single target) Reduces effects of being outnumbered.
*50 Ranks in [[Climbing]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make climb checks prior to that.
*50 Ranks in [[Swimming]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make swim checks prior to that.
*[[Spiritual Lore, Blessings]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after Getting 650
*[[Spiritual Lore, Summoning]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after getting 650
(your 1 rank of these two lores gives slight increases in many of your spells, low training point cost boosts, 5 ranks is Blessing lore is very interesting also as it will allow your 117 spirit strike to have a 3% chance to affect two strikes for you being both weapons)

===Spell Research===

My preferred training order: for a two weapon build
601, 101-103, 602-618, 104-107, 619-650, 108-130, Ranger ranks for life 'Aurach Moonshadew'

(other rangers prefer minor spirit 140 and ranger 162 which provides the best CS)

I prefer to get hues, then 101-103, I like having the low mana shield of 102 with this type of character.
After that Mobility is the goal. Then getting deep blues. Then I would head for Aspect.
This is simply my preference looking back on my build.

===Optional Additional Training===

A list of the most common skills to use your additional training points on.

*1x [[Ambush]] when you can fit the ranks in, 1x at cap (more as you feel the need) (I am singled at cap currently and do very well ambushing)
*2x [[Stalking and Hiding]] – If you plan to ambush at cap you will want to 2x this, post cap
*1x-2x [[Survival]] – This will aid skinning, foraging, and overland movement
*1x-2x [[First Aid]] – This will aid in skinning and reduce herb eating RT
*Spiritual Lore: Blessing and Summoning ranger preference, I think it should be gained after ranger spells are maxed, however 5 ranks of blessing lore will allow a 3% chance to have MS117 affect two strikes low chance but is nice when it happens)
*[[Magic Item Use]] I regret not having this 1x earlier. I did it post cap and love it.
*[[Arcane Symbols]] I regret not having this 1x earlier (immediately after MIU).
*15 ranks [[Spiritual Mana Control]] as soon as you learn it is fun to share and play well with others. 15 ranks is enough to share with most Older Spirit mana using folks (25 ranks post cap if you like).

===Post Cap Goals===

*2x Physical Fitness (immediately at cap or earlier)
*2x [[Combat Maneuvers]] (At cap or earlier)
*2x [[Dodge]] (after maxing ranger spells, maybe)
*55 ranks [[Multi-Opponent Combat]] for 6 strikes focused on a single target
[[Thrown Weapons]] may be a very interesting post cap goal, since you will throw both weapons and you already have the required support skill ([[TWC]], [[Perception]], Combat Maneuvers)

[[Blessing Lore ]]

[[Summoning Lore]]

'''[[Combat Maneuver]] skills (mine at cap at moment) Post Cap goals:'''
{|{{prettytable}}
|-style = "background:#DDD; color: blue"
!Skill
!Mnemonic
!Ranks
|-align=center
|[[Cunning Defense]]
|cdefense
|5
|-align=center
|[[Combat Movement]]
|cmovement
|5
|-align=center
|[[Hamstring]]
|hamstring
|5
|-align=center
|[[Disarm Weapon]]
|disarm
|5
|-align=center
|[[Shadow Mastery]]
|smastery
|5
|-align=center
|[[Sweep]]
|sweep
|1
|-align=center
|[[Garrote]]
|garrote
|1
|-align=center
|[[Subdual Strike]]
|sstrike
|1
|}

*TWC rangers will find these useful (order of preference for me was Cdefense, Cmovement, Hamstring, Disarm, Smastery)

This is simply how Aurach trained Combat maneuver skills.

==Race==
I would hope race depends largely on the vision you have for your ranger. That being said, Agility and Dexterity are very important to reduce RT. A race that has strength and can manage encumbrance would also be wise.

==What Armor to use?==
The best armor you can afford.

My advice is Double leather, then Brigandine, then hauberk, for Full body coverage. I like the full body coverage as it allows me to wear arm/leg greaves, helm, and aventails, if I choose with no added penalties. I kept my eye out for enhancives on the added armor pieces. Padding crit or damage is always a good choice if you can afford it.

My cap armor is an imflass chain hauberk, with added helm, arm and leg greaves and aventail, it has 11% hinderance. I find the failure acceptable to my style. Some will not. A paladin for fluidity would be fantastic. I also kept training armor to reduce maneuver penalties. Armor skill is also a secondary skill for redux so serves some double duty.

==Keeping your RT manageable==

You will find the links below for Agi/Dex and Two weapon combat RT. The RT is probably the most confusing part of using two weapons. I say this because from time to time, it does not match the documents. Weapon weights, base speed, Agi/Dex, encumberance, and Character strength all affect your RT. (Assume Aspect, Phoen's Strength, Enhancive items, and Wizard strength will be the greatest help here)

To really enjoy and work the two weapon using ranger. You will need to test various combinations of weapons. Early on you might try short sword and gauche for the gauches added DS when used in off hand. Later on perhaps a long sword/short sword when you want to hit harder and keep RT manageable. Too many weapons to list.

==A Rangers Weapon Sets==
There are many weapons to try. Your ranger will have two or possibly three different sets as he heads out on patrol at certain points in thier career. This is where you get to show your rangers individuality.

My carry weapons at cap are: longsword/shortsword set, two hand axe set, and a dagger set. This is not based on min maxing, it is more a collection of style, effectiveness vs heavy armor, and a couple speed weapons for when encumbered by heaps of treasure and skins.

Do not forget to look at blunt weapons if that is more appealing to you.

I can say, that this will be fun. Try all kinds of cheap sets of weapons to get what feels right.
This will evolve as Stats increase, better enhancive items are acquired, and weapon choice vs armor types are considered

So, what feels right now, may change at various training stages and against different types of armor types (critters).

Feras weapons, Flares, Ensorcellment, Weighting (crit and damage) can all boost your effectiveness. You hit twice as often and good combinations of the previous can add great advantages to your ranger.

https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Edged_Weapons
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Roundtime
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat

==TWC Defenses==

'All about that AS that AS , no defense, it's all about the AS'

Ok, so seriously, defenses as a two weapon using ranger. As usual we have some good options available.

'''TWC Parry DS:''' https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat
I cannot explain it better than is listed.

'''Stances:''' No really there are stances other than OFF and DEF. A good understanding of how you can adjust your stance to maintain adequate defense for the current threat and still provide you with enough offensive punch to down your enemies will really help. Your ranger spells have a great variety to help you to do this.

'''TWC Out Right Parry:''' each weapon will provide a 5% chance to parry incoming melee attacks against like level foes in stance offensive (https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Parry) Assume Aspect:Mantis aids nicely with both weapons chances to parry.

'''Bolt Defenses''': Two Weapon Combat style does not offer good bolt defenses (no shield). So, as a ranger we adapt. The ranger spell list and minor spell list will provide a great amount of assistance to our Bolt DS. I would like to focus on those that you can use to finesse things and make your twc ranger even more protected. Minor Spirit Air wall 102, and Fog 106 can be used as well as seeking areas when hunting that provide natural defenses. Your wall of thorns blocking incoming attacks,(later boosted by Aspect Porcupine), and Evasion/dodge (boosted by serpent) however will all aid you greatly. ''Assume Aspect Mantis with a runestaff will parry bolts/arrows as well. (test it)'' Rotating aspects when mana is not the main issue.

'''NOTE: The following Runestaff comments are for much later down the line but am tossing it in here for reference''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying Bolts and arrows. Test it out if you find the need for more bolt defenses beyond what you get from Wall of Thorns or out right evasion.

'''Evade''' Can be boosted by your Aspect Serpent, I saw a really significant increase here from 21% to 40%.

==runestaff test==
'''NOTE''': Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This Would require runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider.

An 800 attack test with the mage Drafix's assistance has shown my ranger's wall of thorns stopped about 21% of incoming bolt attacks. 24% were then outright evaded (wearing my hauberk or not wearing it was the same due to armor over training), (this increased to 40% evaded with Aspect Serpent running) and then after that 7% were blocked by the runestaff. Giving an over all total of 51%+ to 67% stopped/evaded/parried.

Also, the % was based on bolt spell by like level caster. I believe the Ball spells and Arrows the % to parry are different. And did not do a deep test of those at this time.

The rune staff below is +8 deringo. (a staff with eblade on it would cost next to nothing) (test for this posting was 8 of 20 and 10 of 27) using mantis against ball spells

''Sepher gestures at you''.

Sepher hurls a roaring ball of fire at you!

You deflect the bolt with your runestaff!

''Sepher nocks a dull black wooden arrow fletched with white-spotted falcon feathers in his sephwir long bow.'' (10/35 against arrows)

Sepher fires a dull black arrow at you!

You deflect the arrow with your runestaff!

The arrow disappears into the local environs.

Now I certainly do not expect everyone using TWC to invest in runestaves. But please remember that was 7% of the over all total attacks, not the ones that got past wall of thorns or were evaded outright) the runestaff seemed to parry about 11% of the bolts it had a chance to parry. So, if bolts become an issue, it is something to consider since you do have magical training as a semi and have a Bolt Weakness using Two weapons. You could also pick up a shield and train it, but the magical skills you have most likely have already trained in.

==Society==

(Anyone want to toss in pro-cons please do so)

Aurach is a member of Voln. Two Weapons against the many non-critable undead has worked rather well.

==recap==
So, this is my thoughts on two weapon using rangers. I will be adding more as thoughts come to me. I find the capped version to be where my character really came into his own. There seemed to be a non-stop struggle to survive when I was hunting early on. But so much has changed since then. I think a two weapon combat ranger at this point would have great strengths right from the beginning.

John
mind behind Aurach Moonshadew the Gallant, 'two-blader' of Auld Ta'Faendryl

==See Also==
*[[Ranger]] (main article)
*[[A beginner's guide to playing a ranger]]
http://www.play.net/gs4/info/skills.asp#twoweaponcombat
Evade
Parry

==References==
*[http://www.play.net/gs4/info/professions/rangers.asp Ranger profession on Play.net]

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[[Category:Professional Guides]]

Aurach's Two Weapon Combat Guide: A Ranger's Perspective

2015-02-19T23:28:03Z

SHEN1: /* TWC Defenses */

{{Work-in-progress}}

==The Two Weapon Combat Ranger==
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/File:Twcranger.jpg (need to add this in off to side at some point visibly)

The whirling scimitars of Drizzsdt Do'Urden, The 'mountain charge to rescue' in Last of the Mohican's using Hatchet and knife, Lancelot's dual short swords in King Arthur, all bring the vision of our champion, the Two Weapon Combat Ranger. A challenging training path, with strong reliance on attack and speed.

Very few rangers take this path. It is up hill both ways, in the snow, at night, crossing a frigid streams, without boots.

Why are you still reading?

Let me say this one more time. It is very costly in training points, it delays most other skills/spells and you have little bolt defense. You may find training the TWC combat skill and adjusting to this style at cap MUCH easier.

If you are still reading you are probably hard headed enough.

However, other guides have said there is really no 'bad' way to train a ranger. Two weapon combat from a rangers birth is probably really close however.

Good Luck

==Why two weapons?==

Most ambushing rangers and archers can kill with one well placed strike. So too can the two weapon ambushing ranger, but the world has creatures that cannot be critical struck and only massive raw damage will suffice.

Enter our ranger hero, weapon in each hand, spell at the ready. 'Guts, 'Glory, 'Aspects'

For me the style has always been about using your magics and blades together. This is really not a stand in the open and get beat on type of style. You can do that however. I prefer the use of good timing, and a rather large variety of spells to maneuver your opponents into situations favorable to you.

Your greatest strength is your variety of magics, combat maneuver skills, and weapons combined.

From the skills and stats a Ranger can be a very good two weapon user. Great spirit warding, good variety of spells, low costs to train a variety of skills, some of the best attack spells for a semi, great defensive spells all make for a really versatile and easily adjustable character.

While not recommended to try from early on, this style when combined with ambushing and Multi Opponent Combat is absolutely devastating.

==Ranger Spells==
The ranger spell list provides some unique benefits for TWC rangers, both directly and indirectly.

[[606|Phoen's strength (606)]] gives a phantom increase of +10 to [[Strength|strength]] bonus. Strength is incredibly important to keep RT down (encumbrance really affects the left hand weapon).

[[Mobility (618)]] offers a large bonus to Dodge, a TWC rangers primary defense

[[Camouflage (608)]] a +30 AS bonus from camouflage for multiple attacks. Yes both weapons get the bonus from a ranger leaping to ambush or 'plain attacking' from a camo 608 position, so this can be used by non ambusher for the boost if your quick, so you at least get the +30 AS bonus.

[[Wall of Thorns (640)]] of great assistance to a TWC ranger, the best defense is having the trees block for you and not getting hit at all.

[[650|Assume aspect (650)]] is custom made for a TWC ranger, allowing you to tweak your form to meet the current threat or boost a weakness. (alternating between rat and wolf for example maintains a boost to your agi/dex)

All Rangers also benefit from a plethora of set up spells that can complement any weapon style, such as [[Sounds (607)]], [[610|Tangle weed (610)]] , [[Call Swarm (615)]] and Sunburst (609) (note the effects vs undead)

TWC rangers will find great use in the [[Minor Spiritual]] spell circle, especially [[Spirit Barrier (102)]] and [[106|Spirit fog (106)]], to provide added defenses. Note that 102 gives a penalty to [[Attack strength|AS]] so you could [[STOP (verb)|STOP 102]], which removes the spell so you can attack without the penalty making for a creative low mana Shield/stance dance option, also breeze will eliminate 106, however that is mana intensive.

==Two Weapon Combat Training==
The introduction of Fix skills and Fix Stats, will allows new rangers to tweak their efforts with great ease. I suggest Maintain your core training, finesse skills/Stats as starting Stats have increased and allow you to gain more your training points while boosting over all stat totals. (this is an entire topic all it's own) (word smith this it isn't sounding right)

===Two Weapon Combat Ranger Core Training===

This is your base training that every two weapon ranger should have each level.

*2x (6/4) [[Combat Maneuvers]]: When points are too tight, you can skip some here if you have to, try to keep singling.
*2x (9/6) [[Two Weapon Combat]]:
*2x (9/3) [[Edged Weapons]] (Blunt weapons can be used, slightly increased training cost, do not over look this if it appeals to your style of ranger)
*1x (4/0) [[Physical Fitness]]: (no shield, you will be getting hit, you need this)
*1x (7/5) [[Dodge]]
*1x (0/5) [[Harness Power]]
*1x (0/17) [[Spell Research]]: (May have to skip spells a few levels until training points work out)
*1x (0/3) [[Perception]]: take higher at cap (if you can single, go for it, I think you will be strapped for points: You can skip this when you need to)

Total of (35/43)

===TWC Ranger Discreet Training===

These values are plateaus you should strive to reach at some point in your career.

*1x (5/0) [[Armor Use]]: (Aurach's goal was 110 ranks for a chain hauberk and then 170 ranks post cap to reduce maneuver penalties in hauberk)
*5 ranks of [[Multi Opponent Combat]] (10/4) as soon as you can fit it in. (30 ranks allows 2 strikes per weapon on a target, 55 ranks allows you to focus mstrike 3 times per weapon on a single target) Reduces effects of being outnumbered.
*50 Ranks in [[Climbing]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make climb checks prior to that.
*50 Ranks in [[Swimming]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make swim checks prior to that.
*[[Spiritual Lore, Blessings]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after Getting 650
*[[Spiritual Lore, Summoning]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after getting 650
(your 1 rank of these two lores gives slight increases in many of your spells, low training point cost boosts, 5 ranks is Blessing lore is very interesting also as it will allow your 117 spirit strike to have a 3% chance to affect two strikes for you being both weapons)

===Spell Research===

My preferred training order: for a two weapon build
601, 101-103, 602-618, 104-107, 619-650, 108-130, Ranger ranks for life 'Aurach Moonshadew'

(other rangers prefer minor spirit 140 and ranger 162 which provides the best CS)

I prefer to get hues, then 101-103, I like having the low mana shield of 102 with this type of character.
After that Mobility is the goal. Then getting deep blues. Then I would head for Aspect.
This is simply my preference looking back on my build.

===Optional Additional Training===

A list of the most common skills to use your additional training points on.

*1x [[Ambush]] when you can fit the ranks in, 1x at cap (more as you feel the need) (I am singled at cap currently and do very well ambushing)
*2x [[Stalking and Hiding]] – If you plan to ambush at cap you will want to 2x this, post cap
*1x-2x [[Survival]] – This will aid skinning, foraging, and overland movement
*1x-2x [[First Aid]] – This will aid in skinning and reduce herb eating RT
*Spiritual Lore: Blessing and Summoning ranger preference, I think it should be gained after ranger spells are maxed, however 5 ranks of blessing lore will allow a 3% chance to have MS117 affect two strikes low chance but is nice when it happens)
*[[Magic Item Use]] I regret not having this 1x earlier. I did it post cap and love it.
*[[Arcane Symbols]] I regret not having this 1x earlier (immediately after MIU).
*15 ranks [[Spiritual Mana Control]] as soon as you learn it is fun to share and play well with others. 15 ranks is enough to share with most Older Spirit mana using folks (25 ranks post cap if you like).

===Post Cap Goals===

*2x Physical Fitness (immediately at cap or earlier)
*2x [[Combat Maneuvers]] (At cap or earlier)
*2x [[Dodge]] (after maxing ranger spells, maybe)
*55 ranks [[Multi-Opponent Combat]] for 6 strikes focused on a single target
[[Thrown Weapons]] may be a very interesting post cap goal, since you will throw both weapons and you already have the required support skill ([[TWC]], [[Perception]], Combat Maneuvers)

[[Blessing Lore ]]

[[Summoning Lore]]

'''[[Combat Maneuver]] skills (mine at cap at moment) Post Cap goals:'''
{|{{prettytable}}
|-style = "background:#DDD; color: blue"
!Skill
!Mnemonic
!Ranks
|-align=center
|[[Cunning Defense]]
|cdefense
|5
|-align=center
|[[Combat Movement]]
|cmovement
|5
|-align=center
|[[Hamstring]]
|hamstring
|5
|-align=center
|[[Disarm Weapon]]
|disarm
|5
|-align=center
|[[Shadow Mastery]]
|smastery
|5
|-align=center
|[[Sweep]]
|sweep
|1
|-align=center
|[[Garrote]]
|garrote
|1
|-align=center
|[[Subdual Strike]]
|sstrike
|1
|}

*TWC rangers will find these useful (order of preference for me was Cdefense, Cmovement, Hamstring, Disarm, Smastery)

This is simply how Aurach trained Combat maneuver skills.

==Race==
I would hope race depends largely on the vision you have for your ranger. That being said, Agility and Dexterity are very important to reduce RT. A race that has strength and can manage encumbrance would also be wise.

==What Armor to use?==
The best armor you can afford.

My advice is Double leather, then Brigandine, then hauberk, for Full body coverage. I like the full body coverage as it allows me to wear arm/leg greaves, helm, and aventails, if I choose with no added penalties. I kept my eye out for enhancives on the added armor pieces. Padding crit or damage is always a good choice if you can afford it.

My cap armor is an imflass chain hauberk, with added helm, arm and leg greaves and aventail, it has 11% hinderance. I find the failure acceptable to my style. Some will not. A paladin for fluidity would be fantastic. I also kept training armor to reduce maneuver penalties. Armor skill is also a secondary skill for redux so serves some double duty.

==Keeping your RT manageable==

You will find the links below for Agi/Dex and Two weapon combat RT. The RT is probably the most confusing part of using two weapons. I say this because from time to time, it does not match the documents. Weapon weights, base speed, Agi/Dex, encumberance, and Character strength all affect your RT. (Assume Aspect, Phoen's Strength, Enhancive items, and Wizard strength will be the greatest help here)

To really enjoy and work the two weapon using ranger. You will need to test various combinations of weapons. Early on you might try short sword and gauche for the gauches added DS when used in off hand. Later on perhaps a long sword/short sword when you want to hit harder and keep RT manageable. Too many weapons to list.

==A Rangers Weapon Sets==
There are many weapons to try. Your ranger will have two or possibly three different sets as he heads out on patrol at certain points in thier career. This is where you get to show your rangers individuality.

My carry weapons at cap are: longsword/shortsword set, two hand axe set, and a dagger set. This is not based on min maxing, it is more a collection of style, effectiveness vs heavy armor, and a couple speed weapons for when encumbered by heaps of treasure and skins.

Do not forget to look at blunt weapons if that is more appealing to you.

I can say, that this will be fun. Try all kinds of cheap sets of weapons to get what feels right.
This will evolve as Stats increase, better enhancive items are acquired, and weapon choice vs armor types are considered

So, what feels right now, may change at various training stages and against different types of armor types (critters).

Feras weapons, Flares, Ensorcellment, Weighting (crit and damage) can all boost your effectiveness. You hit twice as often and good combinations of the previous can add great advantages to your ranger.

https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Edged_Weapons
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Roundtime
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat

==TWC Defenses==

'All about that AS that AS , no defense, it's all about the AS'

Ok, so seriously, defenses as a two weapon using ranger. As usual we have some good options available.

'''TWC Parry DS:''' https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat
I cannot explain it better than is listed.

'''Stances:''' No really there are stances other than OFF and DEF. A good understanding of how you can adjust your stance to maintain adequate defense for the current threat and still provide you with enough offensive punch to down your enemies will really help. Your ranger spells have a great variety to help you to do this.

'''TWC Out Right Parry:''' each weapon will provide a 5% chance to parry incoming melee attacks against like level foes in stance offensive (https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Parry) Assume Aspect:Mantis aids nicely with both weapons chances to parry.

'''Bolt Defenses''': Two Weapon Combat style does not offer good bolt defenses (no shield). So, as a ranger we adapt. The ranger spell list and minor spell list will provide a great amount of assistance to our Bolt DS. I would like to focus on those that you can use to finesse things and make your twc ranger even more protected. Minor Spirit Air wall 102, and Fog 106 can be used as well as seeking areas when hunting that provide natural defenses. Your wall of thorns blocking incoming attacks,(later boosted by Aspect Porcupine), and Evasion/dodge (boosted by serpent) however will all aid you greatly. ''Assume Aspect Mantis with a runestaff will parry bolts/arrows as well. (test it)'' Rotating aspects when mana is not the main issue.

'''NOTE: The following Runestaff comments are for much later down the line but am tossing it in here for reference''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying Bolts and arrows. Test it out if you find the need for more bolt defenses beyond what you get from Wall of Thorns or out right evasion.

'''Evade''' Can be boosted by your Aspect Serpent, I saw a really significant increase here from 21% to 40%.

==runestaff test==
'''NOTE''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying bolts spells, ball spells, and arrows. Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This Would require runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider. Test it out.

An 800 attack test with the mage Drafix's assistance has shown my ranger's wall of thorns stopped about 21% of incoming bolt attacks. 24% were then outright evaded (wearing my hauberk or not wearing it was the same due to armor over training), (this increased to 40% evaded with Aspect Serpent running) and then after that 7% were blocked by the runestaff. Giving an over all total of 51%+ to 67% stopped/evaded/parried.

Also, the % was based on bolt spell by like level caster. I believe the Ball spells and Arrows the % to parry are different. And did not do a deep test of those at this time.

The rune staff below is +8 deringo. (a staff with eblade on it would cost next to nothing) (test for this posting was 8 of 20 and 10 of 27) using mantis against ball spells

''Sepher gestures at you''.

Sepher hurls a roaring ball of fire at you!

You deflect the bolt with your runestaff!

''Sepher nocks a dull black wooden arrow fletched with white-spotted falcon feathers in his sephwir long bow.'' (10/35 against arrows)

Sepher fires a dull black arrow at you!

You deflect the arrow with your runestaff!

The arrow disappears into the local environs.

Now I certainly do not expect everyone using TWC to invest in runestaves. But please remember that was 7% of the over all total attacks, not the ones that got past wall of thorns or were evaded outright) the runestaff seemed to parry about 11% of the bolts it had a chance to parry. So, if bolts become an issue, it is something to consider since you do have magical training as a semi and have a Bolt Weakness using Two weapons. You could also pick up a shield and train it, but the magical skills you have most likely have already trained in.

==Society==

(Anyone want to toss in pro-cons please do so)

Aurach is a member of Voln. Two Weapons against the many non-critable undead has worked rather well.

==recap==
So, this is my thoughts on two weapon using rangers. I will be adding more as thoughts come to me. I find the capped version to be where my character really came into his own. There seemed to be a non-stop struggle to survive when I was hunting early on. But so much has changed since then. I think a two weapon combat ranger at this point would have great strengths right from the beginning.

John
mind behind Aurach Moonshadew the Gallant, 'two-blader' of Auld Ta'Faendryl

==See Also==
*[[Ranger]] (main article)
*[[A beginner's guide to playing a ranger]]
http://www.play.net/gs4/info/skills.asp#twoweaponcombat
Evade
Parry

==References==
*[http://www.play.net/gs4/info/professions/rangers.asp Ranger profession on Play.net]

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[[Category:Ranger]]
[[Category:Professional Guides]]

Aurach's Two Weapon Combat Guide: A Ranger's Perspective

2015-02-19T22:39:30Z

SHEN1: /* Post Cap Goals */

{{Work-in-progress}}

==The Two Weapon Combat Ranger==
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/File:Twcranger.jpg (need to add this in off to side at some point visibly)

The whirling scimitars of Drizzsdt Do'Urden, The 'mountain charge to rescue' in Last of the Mohican's using Hatchet and knife, Lancelot's dual short swords in King Arthur, all bring the vision of our champion, the Two Weapon Combat Ranger. A challenging training path, with strong reliance on attack and speed.

Very few rangers take this path. It is up hill both ways, in the snow, at night, crossing a frigid streams, without boots.

Why are you still reading?

Let me say this one more time. It is very costly in training points, it delays most other skills/spells and you have little bolt defense. You may find training the TWC combat skill and adjusting to this style at cap MUCH easier.

If you are still reading you are probably hard headed enough.

However, other guides have said there is really no 'bad' way to train a ranger. Two weapon combat from a rangers birth is probably really close however.

Good Luck

==Why two weapons?==

Most ambushing rangers and archers can kill with one well placed strike. So too can the two weapon ambushing ranger, but the world has creatures that cannot be critical struck and only massive raw damage will suffice.

Enter our ranger hero, weapon in each hand, spell at the ready. 'Guts, 'Glory, 'Aspects'

For me the style has always been about using your magics and blades together. This is really not a stand in the open and get beat on type of style. You can do that however. I prefer the use of good timing, and a rather large variety of spells to maneuver your opponents into situations favorable to you.

Your greatest strength is your variety of magics, combat maneuver skills, and weapons combined.

From the skills and stats a Ranger can be a very good two weapon user. Great spirit warding, good variety of spells, low costs to train a variety of skills, some of the best attack spells for a semi, great defensive spells all make for a really versatile and easily adjustable character.

While not recommended to try from early on, this style when combined with ambushing and Multi Opponent Combat is absolutely devastating.

==Ranger Spells==
The ranger spell list provides some unique benefits for TWC rangers, both directly and indirectly.

[[606|Phoen's strength (606)]] gives a phantom increase of +10 to [[Strength|strength]] bonus. Strength is incredibly important to keep RT down (encumbrance really affects the left hand weapon).

[[Mobility (618)]] offers a large bonus to Dodge, a TWC rangers primary defense

[[Camouflage (608)]] a +30 AS bonus from camouflage for multiple attacks. Yes both weapons get the bonus from a ranger leaping to ambush or 'plain attacking' from a camo 608 position, so this can be used by non ambusher for the boost if your quick, so you at least get the +30 AS bonus.

[[Wall of Thorns (640)]] of great assistance to a TWC ranger, the best defense is having the trees block for you and not getting hit at all.

[[650|Assume aspect (650)]] is custom made for a TWC ranger, allowing you to tweak your form to meet the current threat or boost a weakness. (alternating between rat and wolf for example maintains a boost to your agi/dex)

All Rangers also benefit from a plethora of set up spells that can complement any weapon style, such as [[Sounds (607)]], [[610|Tangle weed (610)]] , [[Call Swarm (615)]] and Sunburst (609) (note the effects vs undead)

TWC rangers will find great use in the [[Minor Spiritual]] spell circle, especially [[Spirit Barrier (102)]] and [[106|Spirit fog (106)]], to provide added defenses. Note that 102 gives a penalty to [[Attack strength|AS]] so you could [[STOP (verb)|STOP 102]], which removes the spell so you can attack without the penalty making for a creative low mana Shield/stance dance option, also breeze will eliminate 106, however that is mana intensive.

==Two Weapon Combat Training==
The introduction of Fix skills and Fix Stats, will allows new rangers to tweak their efforts with great ease. I suggest Maintain your core training, finesse skills/Stats as starting Stats have increased and allow you to gain more your training points while boosting over all stat totals. (this is an entire topic all it's own) (word smith this it isn't sounding right)

===Two Weapon Combat Ranger Core Training===

This is your base training that every two weapon ranger should have each level.

*2x (6/4) [[Combat Maneuvers]]: When points are too tight, you can skip some here if you have to, try to keep singling.
*2x (9/6) [[Two Weapon Combat]]:
*2x (9/3) [[Edged Weapons]] (Blunt weapons can be used, slightly increased training cost, do not over look this if it appeals to your style of ranger)
*1x (4/0) [[Physical Fitness]]: (no shield, you will be getting hit, you need this)
*1x (7/5) [[Dodge]]
*1x (0/5) [[Harness Power]]
*1x (0/17) [[Spell Research]]: (May have to skip spells a few levels until training points work out)
*1x (0/3) [[Perception]]: take higher at cap (if you can single, go for it, I think you will be strapped for points: You can skip this when you need to)

Total of (35/43)

===TWC Ranger Discreet Training===

These values are plateaus you should strive to reach at some point in your career.

*1x (5/0) [[Armor Use]]: (Aurach's goal was 110 ranks for a chain hauberk and then 170 ranks post cap to reduce maneuver penalties in hauberk)
*5 ranks of [[Multi Opponent Combat]] (10/4) as soon as you can fit it in. (30 ranks allows 2 strikes per weapon on a target, 55 ranks allows you to focus mstrike 3 times per weapon on a single target) Reduces effects of being outnumbered.
*50 Ranks in [[Climbing]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make climb checks prior to that.
*50 Ranks in [[Swimming]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make swim checks prior to that.
*[[Spiritual Lore, Blessings]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after Getting 650
*[[Spiritual Lore, Summoning]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after getting 650
(your 1 rank of these two lores gives slight increases in many of your spells, low training point cost boosts, 5 ranks is Blessing lore is very interesting also as it will allow your 117 spirit strike to have a 3% chance to affect two strikes for you being both weapons)

===Spell Research===

My preferred training order: for a two weapon build
601, 101-103, 602-618, 104-107, 619-650, 108-130, Ranger ranks for life 'Aurach Moonshadew'

(other rangers prefer minor spirit 140 and ranger 162 which provides the best CS)

I prefer to get hues, then 101-103, I like having the low mana shield of 102 with this type of character.
After that Mobility is the goal. Then getting deep blues. Then I would head for Aspect.
This is simply my preference looking back on my build.

===Optional Additional Training===

A list of the most common skills to use your additional training points on.

*1x [[Ambush]] when you can fit the ranks in, 1x at cap (more as you feel the need) (I am singled at cap currently and do very well ambushing)
*2x [[Stalking and Hiding]] – If you plan to ambush at cap you will want to 2x this, post cap
*1x-2x [[Survival]] – This will aid skinning, foraging, and overland movement
*1x-2x [[First Aid]] – This will aid in skinning and reduce herb eating RT
*Spiritual Lore: Blessing and Summoning ranger preference, I think it should be gained after ranger spells are maxed, however 5 ranks of blessing lore will allow a 3% chance to have MS117 affect two strikes low chance but is nice when it happens)
*[[Magic Item Use]] I regret not having this 1x earlier. I did it post cap and love it.
*[[Arcane Symbols]] I regret not having this 1x earlier (immediately after MIU).
*15 ranks [[Spiritual Mana Control]] as soon as you learn it is fun to share and play well with others. 15 ranks is enough to share with most Older Spirit mana using folks (25 ranks post cap if you like).

===Post Cap Goals===

*2x Physical Fitness (immediately at cap or earlier)
*2x [[Combat Maneuvers]] (At cap or earlier)
*2x [[Dodge]] (after maxing ranger spells, maybe)
*55 ranks [[Multi-Opponent Combat]] for 6 strikes focused on a single target
[[Thrown Weapons]] may be a very interesting post cap goal, since you will throw both weapons and you already have the required support skill ([[TWC]], [[Perception]], Combat Maneuvers)

[[Blessing Lore ]]

[[Summoning Lore]]

'''[[Combat Maneuver]] skills (mine at cap at moment) Post Cap goals:'''
{|{{prettytable}}
|-style = "background:#DDD; color: blue"
!Skill
!Mnemonic
!Ranks
|-align=center
|[[Cunning Defense]]
|cdefense
|5
|-align=center
|[[Combat Movement]]
|cmovement
|5
|-align=center
|[[Hamstring]]
|hamstring
|5
|-align=center
|[[Disarm Weapon]]
|disarm
|5
|-align=center
|[[Shadow Mastery]]
|smastery
|5
|-align=center
|[[Sweep]]
|sweep
|1
|-align=center
|[[Garrote]]
|garrote
|1
|-align=center
|[[Subdual Strike]]
|sstrike
|1
|}

*TWC rangers will find these useful (order of preference for me was Cdefense, Cmovement, Hamstring, Disarm, Smastery)

This is simply how Aurach trained Combat maneuver skills.

==Race==
I would hope race depends largely on the vision you have for your ranger. That being said, Agility and Dexterity are very important to reduce RT. A race that has strength and can manage encumbrance would also be wise.

==What Armor to use?==
The best armor you can afford.

My advice is Double leather, then Brigandine, then hauberk, for Full body coverage. I like the full body coverage as it allows me to wear arm/leg greaves, helm, and aventails, if I choose with no added penalties. I kept my eye out for enhancives on the added armor pieces. Padding crit or damage is always a good choice if you can afford it.

My cap armor is an imflass chain hauberk, with added helm, arm and leg greaves and aventail, it has 11% hinderance. I find the failure acceptable to my style. Some will not. A paladin for fluidity would be fantastic. I also kept training armor to reduce maneuver penalties. Armor skill is also a secondary skill for redux so serves some double duty.

==Keeping your RT manageable==

You will find the links below for Agi/Dex and Two weapon combat RT. The RT is probably the most confusing part of using two weapons. I say this because from time to time, it does not match the documents. Weapon weights, base speed, Agi/Dex, encumberance, and Character strength all affect your RT. (Assume Aspect, Phoen's Strength, Enhancive items, and Wizard strength will be the greatest help here)

To really enjoy and work the two weapon using ranger. You will need to test various combinations of weapons. Early on you might try short sword and gauche for the gauches added DS when used in off hand. Later on perhaps a long sword/short sword when you want to hit harder and keep RT manageable. Too many weapons to list.

==A Rangers Weapon Sets==
There are many weapons to try. Your ranger will have two or possibly three different sets as he heads out on patrol at certain points in thier career. This is where you get to show your rangers individuality.

My carry weapons at cap are: longsword/shortsword set, two hand axe set, and a dagger set. This is not based on min maxing, it is more a collection of style, effectiveness vs heavy armor, and a couple speed weapons for when encumbered by heaps of treasure and skins.

Do not forget to look at blunt weapons if that is more appealing to you.

I can say, that this will be fun. Try all kinds of cheap sets of weapons to get what feels right.
This will evolve as Stats increase, better enhancive items are acquired, and weapon choice vs armor types are considered

So, what feels right now, may change at various training stages and against different types of armor types (critters).

Feras weapons, Flares, Ensorcellment, Weighting (crit and damage) can all boost your effectiveness. You hit twice as often and good combinations of the previous can add great advantages to your ranger.

https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Edged_Weapons
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Roundtime
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat

==TWC Defenses==

'All about that AS that AS , no defense, it's all about the AS'

Ok, so seriously, defenses as a two weapon using ranger. As usual we have some good options available.

'''TWC Parry DS:''' https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat
I cannot explain it better than is listed.

'''Stances:''' No really there are stances other than OFF and DEF. A good understanding of how you can adjust your stance to maintain adequate defense for the current threat and still provide you with enough offensive punch to down your enemies will really help. Your ranger spells have a great variety to help you to do this.

'''TWC Out Right Parry:''' each weapon will provide a 5% chance to parry incoming melee attacks against like level foes in stance offensive (https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Parry) Assume Aspect:Mantis aids nicely with both weapons chances to parry.

'''Bolt Defenses''': Two Weapon Combat style does not offer good bolt defenses (no shield). So, as a ranger we adapt. The ranger spell list and minor spell list will provide a great amount of assistance to our Bolt DS. I would like to focus on those that you can use to finesse things and make your twc ranger even more protected. Minor Spirit Air wall 102, and Fog 106 can be used as well as seeking areas when hunting that provide natural defenses. Your wall of thorns blocking incoming attacks,(later boosted by Aspect Porcupine), and Evasion/dodge (boosted by serpent) however will all aid you greatly. ''Assume Aspect Mantis with a runestaff will parry bolts/arrows as well. (test it)'' Rotating aspects when mana is not the main issue.

'''NOTE: The following Runestaff comments are for much later down the line but am tossing it in here for reference''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying Bolts and arrows. Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This would require a runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider. Test it out if you find the need for more bolt defenses beyond what you get from Wall of Thorns or out right evasion.

'''Evade''' Can be boosted by your Aspect Serpent, I saw a really significant increase here from 21% to 40%.

==runestaff test==
'''NOTE''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying bolts spells, ball spells, and arrows. Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This Would require runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider. Test it out.

An 800 attack test with the mage Drafix's assistance has shown my ranger's wall of thorns stopped about 21% of incoming bolt attacks. 24% were then outright evaded (wearing my hauberk or not wearing it was the same due to armor over training), (this increased to 40% evaded with Aspect Serpent running) and then after that 7% were blocked by the runestaff. Giving an over all total of 51%+ to 67% stopped/evaded/parried.

Also, the % was based on bolt spell by like level caster. I believe the Ball spells and Arrows the % to parry are different. And did not do a deep test of those at this time.

The rune staff below is +8 deringo. (a staff with eblade on it would cost next to nothing) (test for this posting was 8 of 20 and 10 of 27) using mantis against ball spells

''Sepher gestures at you''.

Sepher hurls a roaring ball of fire at you!

You deflect the bolt with your runestaff!

''Sepher nocks a dull black wooden arrow fletched with white-spotted falcon feathers in his sephwir long bow.'' (10/35 against arrows)

Sepher fires a dull black arrow at you!

You deflect the arrow with your runestaff!

The arrow disappears into the local environs.

Now I certainly do not expect everyone using TWC to invest in runestaves. But please remember that was 7% of the over all total attacks, not the ones that got past wall of thorns or were evaded outright) the runestaff seemed to parry about 11% of the bolts it had a chance to parry. So, if bolts become an issue, it is something to consider since you do have magical training as a semi and have a Bolt Weakness using Two weapons. You could also pick up a shield and train it, but the magical skills you have most likely have already trained in.

==Society==

(Anyone want to toss in pro-cons please do so)

Aurach is a member of Voln. Two Weapons against the many non-critable undead has worked rather well.

==recap==
So, this is my thoughts on two weapon using rangers. I will be adding more as thoughts come to me. I find the capped version to be where my character really came into his own. There seemed to be a non-stop struggle to survive when I was hunting early on. But so much has changed since then. I think a two weapon combat ranger at this point would have great strengths right from the beginning.

John
mind behind Aurach Moonshadew the Gallant, 'two-blader' of Auld Ta'Faendryl

==See Also==
*[[Ranger]] (main article)
*[[A beginner's guide to playing a ranger]]
http://www.play.net/gs4/info/skills.asp#twoweaponcombat
Evade
Parry

==References==
*[http://www.play.net/gs4/info/professions/rangers.asp Ranger profession on Play.net]

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[[Category:Guides]]
[[Category:Ranger]]
[[Category:Professional Guides]]

Aurach's Two Weapon Combat Guide: A Ranger's Perspective

2015-02-19T22:28:11Z

SHEN1: /* Two Weapon Combat Ranger Core Training */

{{Work-in-progress}}

==The Two Weapon Combat Ranger==
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/File:Twcranger.jpg (need to add this in off to side at some point visibly)

The whirling scimitars of Drizzsdt Do'Urden, The 'mountain charge to rescue' in Last of the Mohican's using Hatchet and knife, Lancelot's dual short swords in King Arthur, all bring the vision of our champion, the Two Weapon Combat Ranger. A challenging training path, with strong reliance on attack and speed.

Very few rangers take this path. It is up hill both ways, in the snow, at night, crossing a frigid streams, without boots.

Why are you still reading?

Let me say this one more time. It is very costly in training points, it delays most other skills/spells and you have little bolt defense. You may find training the TWC combat skill and adjusting to this style at cap MUCH easier.

If you are still reading you are probably hard headed enough.

However, other guides have said there is really no 'bad' way to train a ranger. Two weapon combat from a rangers birth is probably really close however.

Good Luck

==Why two weapons?==

Most ambushing rangers and archers can kill with one well placed strike. So too can the two weapon ambushing ranger, but the world has creatures that cannot be critical struck and only massive raw damage will suffice.

Enter our ranger hero, weapon in each hand, spell at the ready. 'Guts, 'Glory, 'Aspects'

For me the style has always been about using your magics and blades together. This is really not a stand in the open and get beat on type of style. You can do that however. I prefer the use of good timing, and a rather large variety of spells to maneuver your opponents into situations favorable to you.

Your greatest strength is your variety of magics, combat maneuver skills, and weapons combined.

From the skills and stats a Ranger can be a very good two weapon user. Great spirit warding, good variety of spells, low costs to train a variety of skills, some of the best attack spells for a semi, great defensive spells all make for a really versatile and easily adjustable character.

While not recommended to try from early on, this style when combined with ambushing and Multi Opponent Combat is absolutely devastating.

==Ranger Spells==
The ranger spell list provides some unique benefits for TWC rangers, both directly and indirectly.

[[606|Phoen's strength (606)]] gives a phantom increase of +10 to [[Strength|strength]] bonus. Strength is incredibly important to keep RT down (encumbrance really affects the left hand weapon).

[[Mobility (618)]] offers a large bonus to Dodge, a TWC rangers primary defense

[[Camouflage (608)]] a +30 AS bonus from camouflage for multiple attacks. Yes both weapons get the bonus from a ranger leaping to ambush or 'plain attacking' from a camo 608 position, so this can be used by non ambusher for the boost if your quick, so you at least get the +30 AS bonus.

[[Wall of Thorns (640)]] of great assistance to a TWC ranger, the best defense is having the trees block for you and not getting hit at all.

[[650|Assume aspect (650)]] is custom made for a TWC ranger, allowing you to tweak your form to meet the current threat or boost a weakness. (alternating between rat and wolf for example maintains a boost to your agi/dex)

All Rangers also benefit from a plethora of set up spells that can complement any weapon style, such as [[Sounds (607)]], [[610|Tangle weed (610)]] , [[Call Swarm (615)]] and Sunburst (609) (note the effects vs undead)

TWC rangers will find great use in the [[Minor Spiritual]] spell circle, especially [[Spirit Barrier (102)]] and [[106|Spirit fog (106)]], to provide added defenses. Note that 102 gives a penalty to [[Attack strength|AS]] so you could [[STOP (verb)|STOP 102]], which removes the spell so you can attack without the penalty making for a creative low mana Shield/stance dance option, also breeze will eliminate 106, however that is mana intensive.

==Two Weapon Combat Training==
The introduction of Fix skills and Fix Stats, will allows new rangers to tweak their efforts with great ease. I suggest Maintain your core training, finesse skills/Stats as starting Stats have increased and allow you to gain more your training points while boosting over all stat totals. (this is an entire topic all it's own) (word smith this it isn't sounding right)

===Two Weapon Combat Ranger Core Training===

This is your base training that every two weapon ranger should have each level.

*2x (6/4) [[Combat Maneuvers]]: When points are too tight, you can skip some here if you have to, try to keep singling.
*2x (9/6) [[Two Weapon Combat]]:
*2x (9/3) [[Edged Weapons]] (Blunt weapons can be used, slightly increased training cost, do not over look this if it appeals to your style of ranger)
*1x (4/0) [[Physical Fitness]]: (no shield, you will be getting hit, you need this)
*1x (7/5) [[Dodge]]
*1x (0/5) [[Harness Power]]
*1x (0/17) [[Spell Research]]: (May have to skip spells a few levels until training points work out)
*1x (0/3) [[Perception]]: take higher at cap (if you can single, go for it, I think you will be strapped for points: You can skip this when you need to)

Total of (35/43)

===TWC Ranger Discreet Training===

These values are plateaus you should strive to reach at some point in your career.

*1x (5/0) [[Armor Use]]: (Aurach's goal was 110 ranks for a chain hauberk and then 170 ranks post cap to reduce maneuver penalties in hauberk)
*5 ranks of [[Multi Opponent Combat]] (10/4) as soon as you can fit it in. (30 ranks allows 2 strikes per weapon on a target, 55 ranks allows you to focus mstrike 3 times per weapon on a single target) Reduces effects of being outnumbered.
*50 Ranks in [[Climbing]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make climb checks prior to that.
*50 Ranks in [[Swimming]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make swim checks prior to that.
*[[Spiritual Lore, Blessings]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after Getting 650
*[[Spiritual Lore, Summoning]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after getting 650
(your 1 rank of these two lores gives slight increases in many of your spells, low training point cost boosts, 5 ranks is Blessing lore is very interesting also as it will allow your 117 spirit strike to have a 3% chance to affect two strikes for you being both weapons)

===Spell Research===

My preferred training order: for a two weapon build
601, 101-103, 602-618, 104-107, 619-650, 108-130, Ranger ranks for life 'Aurach Moonshadew'

(other rangers prefer minor spirit 140 and ranger 162 which provides the best CS)

I prefer to get hues, then 101-103, I like having the low mana shield of 102 with this type of character.
After that Mobility is the goal. Then getting deep blues. Then I would head for Aspect.
This is simply my preference looking back on my build.

===Optional Additional Training===

A list of the most common skills to use your additional training points on.

*1x [[Ambush]] when you can fit the ranks in, 1x at cap (more as you feel the need) (I am singled at cap currently and do very well ambushing)
*2x [[Stalking and Hiding]] – If you plan to ambush at cap you will want to 2x this, post cap
*1x-2x [[Survival]] – This will aid skinning, foraging, and overland movement
*1x-2x [[First Aid]] – This will aid in skinning and reduce herb eating RT
*Spiritual Lore: Blessing and Summoning ranger preference, I think it should be gained after ranger spells are maxed, however 5 ranks of blessing lore will allow a 3% chance to have MS117 affect two strikes low chance but is nice when it happens)
*[[Magic Item Use]] I regret not having this 1x earlier. I did it post cap and love it.
*[[Arcane Symbols]] I regret not having this 1x earlier (immediately after MIU).
*15 ranks [[Spiritual Mana Control]] as soon as you learn it is fun to share and play well with others. 15 ranks is enough to share with most Older Spirit mana using folks (25 ranks post cap if you like).

===Post Cap Goals===

*2x Physical Fitness (immediately at cap or earlier)
*2x [[Combat Maneuvers]] (At cap or earlier)
*2x [[Dodge]] (after maxing ranger spells)
*55 ranks [[Multi-Opponent Combat]] for 6 strikes focused on a single target
[[Thrown Weapons]] may be a very interesting post cap goal, since you will throw both weapons and you already have the required support skill ([[TWC]], [[Perception]], Combat Maneuvers)
Blessing Lore
Summoning Lore

'''[[Combat Maneuver]] skills (mine at cap at moment) Post Cap goals:'''
{|{{prettytable}}
|-style = "background:#DDD; color: blue"
!Skill
!Mnemonic
!Ranks
|-align=center
|[[Cunning Defense]]
|cdefense
|5
|-align=center
|[[Combat Movement]]
|cmovement
|5
|-align=center
|[[Hamstring]]
|hamstring
|5
|-align=center
|[[Disarm Weapon]]
|disarm
|5
|-align=center
|[[Shadow Mastery]]
|smastery
|5
|-align=center
|[[Sweep]]
|sweep
|1
|-align=center
|[[Garrote]]
|garrote
|1
|-align=center
|[[Subdual Strike]]
|sstrike
|1
|}

*TWC rangers will find these useful (order of preference for me was Cdefense, Cmovement, Hamstring, Disarm, Smastery)

This is simply how Aurach trained Combat maneuver skills.

==Race==
I would hope race depends largely on the vision you have for your ranger. That being said, Agility and Dexterity are very important to reduce RT. A race that has strength and can manage encumbrance would also be wise.

==What Armor to use?==
The best armor you can afford.

My advice is Double leather, then Brigandine, then hauberk, for Full body coverage. I like the full body coverage as it allows me to wear arm/leg greaves, helm, and aventails, if I choose with no added penalties. I kept my eye out for enhancives on the added armor pieces. Padding crit or damage is always a good choice if you can afford it.

My cap armor is an imflass chain hauberk, with added helm, arm and leg greaves and aventail, it has 11% hinderance. I find the failure acceptable to my style. Some will not. A paladin for fluidity would be fantastic. I also kept training armor to reduce maneuver penalties. Armor skill is also a secondary skill for redux so serves some double duty.

==Keeping your RT manageable==

You will find the links below for Agi/Dex and Two weapon combat RT. The RT is probably the most confusing part of using two weapons. I say this because from time to time, it does not match the documents. Weapon weights, base speed, Agi/Dex, encumberance, and Character strength all affect your RT. (Assume Aspect, Phoen's Strength, Enhancive items, and Wizard strength will be the greatest help here)

To really enjoy and work the two weapon using ranger. You will need to test various combinations of weapons. Early on you might try short sword and gauche for the gauches added DS when used in off hand. Later on perhaps a long sword/short sword when you want to hit harder and keep RT manageable. Too many weapons to list.

==A Rangers Weapon Sets==
There are many weapons to try. Your ranger will have two or possibly three different sets as he heads out on patrol at certain points in thier career. This is where you get to show your rangers individuality.

My carry weapons at cap are: longsword/shortsword set, two hand axe set, and a dagger set. This is not based on min maxing, it is more a collection of style, effectiveness vs heavy armor, and a couple speed weapons for when encumbered by heaps of treasure and skins.

Do not forget to look at blunt weapons if that is more appealing to you.

I can say, that this will be fun. Try all kinds of cheap sets of weapons to get what feels right.
This will evolve as Stats increase, better enhancive items are acquired, and weapon choice vs armor types are considered

So, what feels right now, may change at various training stages and against different types of armor types (critters).

Feras weapons, Flares, Ensorcellment, Weighting (crit and damage) can all boost your effectiveness. You hit twice as often and good combinations of the previous can add great advantages to your ranger.

https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Edged_Weapons
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Roundtime
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat

==TWC Defenses==

'All about that AS that AS , no defense, it's all about the AS'

Ok, so seriously, defenses as a two weapon using ranger. As usual we have some good options available.

'''TWC Parry DS:''' https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat
I cannot explain it better than is listed.

'''Stances:''' No really there are stances other than OFF and DEF. A good understanding of how you can adjust your stance to maintain adequate defense for the current threat and still provide you with enough offensive punch to down your enemies will really help. Your ranger spells have a great variety to help you to do this.

'''TWC Out Right Parry:''' each weapon will provide a 5% chance to parry incoming melee attacks against like level foes in stance offensive (https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Parry) Assume Aspect:Mantis aids nicely with both weapons chances to parry.

'''Bolt Defenses''': Two Weapon Combat style does not offer good bolt defenses (no shield). So, as a ranger we adapt. The ranger spell list and minor spell list will provide a great amount of assistance to our Bolt DS. I would like to focus on those that you can use to finesse things and make your twc ranger even more protected. Minor Spirit Air wall 102, and Fog 106 can be used as well as seeking areas when hunting that provide natural defenses. Your wall of thorns blocking incoming attacks,(later boosted by Aspect Porcupine), and Evasion/dodge (boosted by serpent) however will all aid you greatly. ''Assume Aspect Mantis with a runestaff will parry bolts/arrows as well. (test it)'' Rotating aspects when mana is not the main issue.

'''NOTE: The following Runestaff comments are for much later down the line but am tossing it in here for reference''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying Bolts and arrows. Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This would require a runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider. Test it out if you find the need for more bolt defenses beyond what you get from Wall of Thorns or out right evasion.

'''Evade''' Can be boosted by your Aspect Serpent, I saw a really significant increase here from 21% to 40%.

==runestaff test==
'''NOTE''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying bolts spells, ball spells, and arrows. Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This Would require runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider. Test it out.

An 800 attack test with the mage Drafix's assistance has shown my ranger's wall of thorns stopped about 21% of incoming bolt attacks. 24% were then outright evaded (wearing my hauberk or not wearing it was the same due to armor over training), (this increased to 40% evaded with Aspect Serpent running) and then after that 7% were blocked by the runestaff. Giving an over all total of 51%+ to 67% stopped/evaded/parried.

Also, the % was based on bolt spell by like level caster. I believe the Ball spells and Arrows the % to parry are different. And did not do a deep test of those at this time.

The rune staff below is +8 deringo. (a staff with eblade on it would cost next to nothing) (test for this posting was 8 of 20 and 10 of 27) using mantis against ball spells

''Sepher gestures at you''.

Sepher hurls a roaring ball of fire at you!

You deflect the bolt with your runestaff!

''Sepher nocks a dull black wooden arrow fletched with white-spotted falcon feathers in his sephwir long bow.'' (10/35 against arrows)

Sepher fires a dull black arrow at you!

You deflect the arrow with your runestaff!

The arrow disappears into the local environs.

Now I certainly do not expect everyone using TWC to invest in runestaves. But please remember that was 7% of the over all total attacks, not the ones that got past wall of thorns or were evaded outright) the runestaff seemed to parry about 11% of the bolts it had a chance to parry. So, if bolts become an issue, it is something to consider since you do have magical training as a semi and have a Bolt Weakness using Two weapons. You could also pick up a shield and train it, but the magical skills you have most likely have already trained in.

==Society==

(Anyone want to toss in pro-cons please do so)

Aurach is a member of Voln. Two Weapons against the many non-critable undead has worked rather well.

==recap==
So, this is my thoughts on two weapon using rangers. I will be adding more as thoughts come to me. I find the capped version to be where my character really came into his own. There seemed to be a non-stop struggle to survive when I was hunting early on. But so much has changed since then. I think a two weapon combat ranger at this point would have great strengths right from the beginning.

John
mind behind Aurach Moonshadew the Gallant, 'two-blader' of Auld Ta'Faendryl

==See Also==
*[[Ranger]] (main article)
*[[A beginner's guide to playing a ranger]]
http://www.play.net/gs4/info/skills.asp#twoweaponcombat
Evade
Parry

==References==
*[http://www.play.net/gs4/info/professions/rangers.asp Ranger profession on Play.net]

{{stub}}
[[Category:Guides]]
[[Category:Ranger]]
[[Category:Professional Guides]]

Aurach's Two Weapon Combat Guide: A Ranger's Perspective

2015-02-19T22:26:28Z

SHEN1: /* Two Weapon Combat Ranger Core Training */

{{Work-in-progress}}

==The Two Weapon Combat Ranger==
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/File:Twcranger.jpg (need to add this in off to side at some point visibly)

The whirling scimitars of Drizzsdt Do'Urden, The 'mountain charge to rescue' in Last of the Mohican's using Hatchet and knife, Lancelot's dual short swords in King Arthur, all bring the vision of our champion, the Two Weapon Combat Ranger. A challenging training path, with strong reliance on attack and speed.

Very few rangers take this path. It is up hill both ways, in the snow, at night, crossing a frigid streams, without boots.

Why are you still reading?

Let me say this one more time. It is very costly in training points, it delays most other skills/spells and you have little bolt defense. You may find training the TWC combat skill and adjusting to this style at cap MUCH easier.

If you are still reading you are probably hard headed enough.

However, other guides have said there is really no 'bad' way to train a ranger. Two weapon combat from a rangers birth is probably really close however.

Good Luck

==Why two weapons?==

Most ambushing rangers and archers can kill with one well placed strike. So too can the two weapon ambushing ranger, but the world has creatures that cannot be critical struck and only massive raw damage will suffice.

Enter our ranger hero, weapon in each hand, spell at the ready. 'Guts, 'Glory, 'Aspects'

For me the style has always been about using your magics and blades together. This is really not a stand in the open and get beat on type of style. You can do that however. I prefer the use of good timing, and a rather large variety of spells to maneuver your opponents into situations favorable to you.

Your greatest strength is your variety of magics, combat maneuver skills, and weapons combined.

From the skills and stats a Ranger can be a very good two weapon user. Great spirit warding, good variety of spells, low costs to train a variety of skills, some of the best attack spells for a semi, great defensive spells all make for a really versatile and easily adjustable character.

While not recommended to try from early on, this style when combined with ambushing and Multi Opponent Combat is absolutely devastating.

==Ranger Spells==
The ranger spell list provides some unique benefits for TWC rangers, both directly and indirectly.

[[606|Phoen's strength (606)]] gives a phantom increase of +10 to [[Strength|strength]] bonus. Strength is incredibly important to keep RT down (encumbrance really affects the left hand weapon).

[[Mobility (618)]] offers a large bonus to Dodge, a TWC rangers primary defense

[[Camouflage (608)]] a +30 AS bonus from camouflage for multiple attacks. Yes both weapons get the bonus from a ranger leaping to ambush or 'plain attacking' from a camo 608 position, so this can be used by non ambusher for the boost if your quick, so you at least get the +30 AS bonus.

[[Wall of Thorns (640)]] of great assistance to a TWC ranger, the best defense is having the trees block for you and not getting hit at all.

[[650|Assume aspect (650)]] is custom made for a TWC ranger, allowing you to tweak your form to meet the current threat or boost a weakness. (alternating between rat and wolf for example maintains a boost to your agi/dex)

All Rangers also benefit from a plethora of set up spells that can complement any weapon style, such as [[Sounds (607)]], [[610|Tangle weed (610)]] , [[Call Swarm (615)]] and Sunburst (609) (note the effects vs undead)

TWC rangers will find great use in the [[Minor Spiritual]] spell circle, especially [[Spirit Barrier (102)]] and [[106|Spirit fog (106)]], to provide added defenses. Note that 102 gives a penalty to [[Attack strength|AS]] so you could [[STOP (verb)|STOP 102]], which removes the spell so you can attack without the penalty making for a creative low mana Shield/stance dance option, also breeze will eliminate 106, however that is mana intensive.

==Two Weapon Combat Training==
The introduction of Fix skills and Fix Stats, will allows new rangers to tweak their efforts with great ease. I suggest Maintain your core training, finesse skills/Stats as starting Stats have increased and allow you to gain more your training points while boosting over all stat totals. (this is an entire topic all it's own) (word smith this it isn't sounding right)

===Two Weapon Combat Ranger Core Training===

This is your base training that every two weapon ranger should have each level.

*2x (6/4) [[Combat Maneuvers]]: When points are too tight, you can skip some here if you have to, try to keep singling.
*2x (9/6) [[Two Weapon Combat]]:
*2x (9/3) [[Edged Weapons]] (Blunt weapons can be used, slightly increased training cost, do not over look this if it appeals to your style of ranger)
*1x (4/0) [[Physical Fitness]]: (2x as soon as points are available, no shield, you will be getting hit, you need this)
*1x (7/5) [[Dodge]]
*1x (0/5) [[Harness Power]]
*1x (0/17) [[Spell Research]]: (May have to skip spells a few levels until training points work out)
*1x (0/3) [[Perception]]: take higher at cap (if you can single, go for it, I think you will be strapped for points: You can skip this when you need to)

Total of (35/43)

===TWC Ranger Discreet Training===

These values are plateaus you should strive to reach at some point in your career.

*1x (5/0) [[Armor Use]]: (Aurach's goal was 110 ranks for a chain hauberk and then 170 ranks post cap to reduce maneuver penalties in hauberk)
*5 ranks of [[Multi Opponent Combat]] (10/4) as soon as you can fit it in. (30 ranks allows 2 strikes per weapon on a target, 55 ranks allows you to focus mstrike 3 times per weapon on a single target) Reduces effects of being outnumbered.
*50 Ranks in [[Climbing]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make climb checks prior to that.
*50 Ranks in [[Swimming]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make swim checks prior to that.
*[[Spiritual Lore, Blessings]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after Getting 650
*[[Spiritual Lore, Summoning]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after getting 650
(your 1 rank of these two lores gives slight increases in many of your spells, low training point cost boosts, 5 ranks is Blessing lore is very interesting also as it will allow your 117 spirit strike to have a 3% chance to affect two strikes for you being both weapons)

===Spell Research===

My preferred training order: for a two weapon build
601, 101-103, 602-618, 104-107, 619-650, 108-130, Ranger ranks for life 'Aurach Moonshadew'

(other rangers prefer minor spirit 140 and ranger 162 which provides the best CS)

I prefer to get hues, then 101-103, I like having the low mana shield of 102 with this type of character.
After that Mobility is the goal. Then getting deep blues. Then I would head for Aspect.
This is simply my preference looking back on my build.

===Optional Additional Training===

A list of the most common skills to use your additional training points on.

*1x [[Ambush]] when you can fit the ranks in, 1x at cap (more as you feel the need) (I am singled at cap currently and do very well ambushing)
*2x [[Stalking and Hiding]] – If you plan to ambush at cap you will want to 2x this, post cap
*1x-2x [[Survival]] – This will aid skinning, foraging, and overland movement
*1x-2x [[First Aid]] – This will aid in skinning and reduce herb eating RT
*Spiritual Lore: Blessing and Summoning ranger preference, I think it should be gained after ranger spells are maxed, however 5 ranks of blessing lore will allow a 3% chance to have MS117 affect two strikes low chance but is nice when it happens)
*[[Magic Item Use]] I regret not having this 1x earlier. I did it post cap and love it.
*[[Arcane Symbols]] I regret not having this 1x earlier (immediately after MIU).
*15 ranks [[Spiritual Mana Control]] as soon as you learn it is fun to share and play well with others. 15 ranks is enough to share with most Older Spirit mana using folks (25 ranks post cap if you like).

===Post Cap Goals===

*2x Physical Fitness (immediately at cap or earlier)
*2x [[Combat Maneuvers]] (At cap or earlier)
*2x [[Dodge]] (after maxing ranger spells)
*55 ranks [[Multi-Opponent Combat]] for 6 strikes focused on a single target
[[Thrown Weapons]] may be a very interesting post cap goal, since you will throw both weapons and you already have the required support skill ([[TWC]], [[Perception]], Combat Maneuvers)
Blessing Lore
Summoning Lore

'''[[Combat Maneuver]] skills (mine at cap at moment) Post Cap goals:'''
{|{{prettytable}}
|-style = "background:#DDD; color: blue"
!Skill
!Mnemonic
!Ranks
|-align=center
|[[Cunning Defense]]
|cdefense
|5
|-align=center
|[[Combat Movement]]
|cmovement
|5
|-align=center
|[[Hamstring]]
|hamstring
|5
|-align=center
|[[Disarm Weapon]]
|disarm
|5
|-align=center
|[[Shadow Mastery]]
|smastery
|5
|-align=center
|[[Sweep]]
|sweep
|1
|-align=center
|[[Garrote]]
|garrote
|1
|-align=center
|[[Subdual Strike]]
|sstrike
|1
|}

*TWC rangers will find these useful (order of preference for me was Cdefense, Cmovement, Hamstring, Disarm, Smastery)

This is simply how Aurach trained Combat maneuver skills.

==Race==
I would hope race depends largely on the vision you have for your ranger. That being said, Agility and Dexterity are very important to reduce RT. A race that has strength and can manage encumbrance would also be wise.

==What Armor to use?==
The best armor you can afford.

My advice is Double leather, then Brigandine, then hauberk, for Full body coverage. I like the full body coverage as it allows me to wear arm/leg greaves, helm, and aventails, if I choose with no added penalties. I kept my eye out for enhancives on the added armor pieces. Padding crit or damage is always a good choice if you can afford it.

My cap armor is an imflass chain hauberk, with added helm, arm and leg greaves and aventail, it has 11% hinderance. I find the failure acceptable to my style. Some will not. A paladin for fluidity would be fantastic. I also kept training armor to reduce maneuver penalties. Armor skill is also a secondary skill for redux so serves some double duty.

==Keeping your RT manageable==

You will find the links below for Agi/Dex and Two weapon combat RT. The RT is probably the most confusing part of using two weapons. I say this because from time to time, it does not match the documents. Weapon weights, base speed, Agi/Dex, encumberance, and Character strength all affect your RT. (Assume Aspect, Phoen's Strength, Enhancive items, and Wizard strength will be the greatest help here)

To really enjoy and work the two weapon using ranger. You will need to test various combinations of weapons. Early on you might try short sword and gauche for the gauches added DS when used in off hand. Later on perhaps a long sword/short sword when you want to hit harder and keep RT manageable. Too many weapons to list.

==A Rangers Weapon Sets==
There are many weapons to try. Your ranger will have two or possibly three different sets as he heads out on patrol at certain points in thier career. This is where you get to show your rangers individuality.

My carry weapons at cap are: longsword/shortsword set, two hand axe set, and a dagger set. This is not based on min maxing, it is more a collection of style, effectiveness vs heavy armor, and a couple speed weapons for when encumbered by heaps of treasure and skins.

Do not forget to look at blunt weapons if that is more appealing to you.

I can say, that this will be fun. Try all kinds of cheap sets of weapons to get what feels right.
This will evolve as Stats increase, better enhancive items are acquired, and weapon choice vs armor types are considered

So, what feels right now, may change at various training stages and against different types of armor types (critters).

Feras weapons, Flares, Ensorcellment, Weighting (crit and damage) can all boost your effectiveness. You hit twice as often and good combinations of the previous can add great advantages to your ranger.

https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Edged_Weapons
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Roundtime
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat

==TWC Defenses==

'All about that AS that AS , no defense, it's all about the AS'

Ok, so seriously, defenses as a two weapon using ranger. As usual we have some good options available.

'''TWC Parry DS:''' https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat
I cannot explain it better than is listed.

'''Stances:''' No really there are stances other than OFF and DEF. A good understanding of how you can adjust your stance to maintain adequate defense for the current threat and still provide you with enough offensive punch to down your enemies will really help. Your ranger spells have a great variety to help you to do this.

'''TWC Out Right Parry:''' each weapon will provide a 5% chance to parry incoming melee attacks against like level foes in stance offensive (https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Parry) Assume Aspect:Mantis aids nicely with both weapons chances to parry.

'''Bolt Defenses''': Two Weapon Combat style does not offer good bolt defenses (no shield). So, as a ranger we adapt. The ranger spell list and minor spell list will provide a great amount of assistance to our Bolt DS. I would like to focus on those that you can use to finesse things and make your twc ranger even more protected. Minor Spirit Air wall 102, and Fog 106 can be used as well as seeking areas when hunting that provide natural defenses. Your wall of thorns blocking incoming attacks,(later boosted by Aspect Porcupine), and Evasion/dodge (boosted by serpent) however will all aid you greatly. ''Assume Aspect Mantis with a runestaff will parry bolts/arrows as well. (test it)'' Rotating aspects when mana is not the main issue.

'''NOTE: The following Runestaff comments are for much later down the line but am tossing it in here for reference''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying Bolts and arrows. Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This would require a runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider. Test it out if you find the need for more bolt defenses beyond what you get from Wall of Thorns or out right evasion.

'''Evade''' Can be boosted by your Aspect Serpent, I saw a really significant increase here from 21% to 40%.

==runestaff test==
'''NOTE''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying bolts spells, ball spells, and arrows. Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This Would require runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider. Test it out.

An 800 attack test with the mage Drafix's assistance has shown my ranger's wall of thorns stopped about 21% of incoming bolt attacks. 24% were then outright evaded (wearing my hauberk or not wearing it was the same due to armor over training), (this increased to 40% evaded with Aspect Serpent running) and then after that 7% were blocked by the runestaff. Giving an over all total of 51%+ to 67% stopped/evaded/parried.

Also, the % was based on bolt spell by like level caster. I believe the Ball spells and Arrows the % to parry are different. And did not do a deep test of those at this time.

The rune staff below is +8 deringo. (a staff with eblade on it would cost next to nothing) (test for this posting was 8 of 20 and 10 of 27) using mantis against ball spells

''Sepher gestures at you''.

Sepher hurls a roaring ball of fire at you!

You deflect the bolt with your runestaff!

''Sepher nocks a dull black wooden arrow fletched with white-spotted falcon feathers in his sephwir long bow.'' (10/35 against arrows)

Sepher fires a dull black arrow at you!

You deflect the arrow with your runestaff!

The arrow disappears into the local environs.

Now I certainly do not expect everyone using TWC to invest in runestaves. But please remember that was 7% of the over all total attacks, not the ones that got past wall of thorns or were evaded outright) the runestaff seemed to parry about 11% of the bolts it had a chance to parry. So, if bolts become an issue, it is something to consider since you do have magical training as a semi and have a Bolt Weakness using Two weapons. You could also pick up a shield and train it, but the magical skills you have most likely have already trained in.

==Society==

(Anyone want to toss in pro-cons please do so)

Aurach is a member of Voln. Two Weapons against the many non-critable undead has worked rather well.

==recap==
So, this is my thoughts on two weapon using rangers. I will be adding more as thoughts come to me. I find the capped version to be where my character really came into his own. There seemed to be a non-stop struggle to survive when I was hunting early on. But so much has changed since then. I think a two weapon combat ranger at this point would have great strengths right from the beginning.

John
mind behind Aurach Moonshadew the Gallant, 'two-blader' of Auld Ta'Faendryl

==See Also==
*[[Ranger]] (main article)
*[[A beginner's guide to playing a ranger]]
http://www.play.net/gs4/info/skills.asp#twoweaponcombat
Evade
Parry

==References==
*[http://www.play.net/gs4/info/professions/rangers.asp Ranger profession on Play.net]

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Aurach's Two Weapon Combat Guide: A Ranger's Perspective

2015-02-19T22:24:42Z

SHEN1: /* Two Weapon Combat Ranger Core Training */

{{Work-in-progress}}

==The Two Weapon Combat Ranger==
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/File:Twcranger.jpg (need to add this in off to side at some point visibly)

The whirling scimitars of Drizzsdt Do'Urden, The 'mountain charge to rescue' in Last of the Mohican's using Hatchet and knife, Lancelot's dual short swords in King Arthur, all bring the vision of our champion, the Two Weapon Combat Ranger. A challenging training path, with strong reliance on attack and speed.

Very few rangers take this path. It is up hill both ways, in the snow, at night, crossing a frigid streams, without boots.

Why are you still reading?

Let me say this one more time. It is very costly in training points, it delays most other skills/spells and you have little bolt defense. You may find training the TWC combat skill and adjusting to this style at cap MUCH easier.

If you are still reading you are probably hard headed enough.

However, other guides have said there is really no 'bad' way to train a ranger. Two weapon combat from a rangers birth is probably really close however.

Good Luck

==Why two weapons?==

Most ambushing rangers and archers can kill with one well placed strike. So too can the two weapon ambushing ranger, but the world has creatures that cannot be critical struck and only massive raw damage will suffice.

Enter our ranger hero, weapon in each hand, spell at the ready. 'Guts, 'Glory, 'Aspects'

For me the style has always been about using your magics and blades together. This is really not a stand in the open and get beat on type of style. You can do that however. I prefer the use of good timing, and a rather large variety of spells to maneuver your opponents into situations favorable to you.

Your greatest strength is your variety of magics, combat maneuver skills, and weapons combined.

From the skills and stats a Ranger can be a very good two weapon user. Great spirit warding, good variety of spells, low costs to train a variety of skills, some of the best attack spells for a semi, great defensive spells all make for a really versatile and easily adjustable character.

While not recommended to try from early on, this style when combined with ambushing and Multi Opponent Combat is absolutely devastating.

==Ranger Spells==
The ranger spell list provides some unique benefits for TWC rangers, both directly and indirectly.

[[606|Phoen's strength (606)]] gives a phantom increase of +10 to [[Strength|strength]] bonus. Strength is incredibly important to keep RT down (encumbrance really affects the left hand weapon).

[[Mobility (618)]] offers a large bonus to Dodge, a TWC rangers primary defense

[[Camouflage (608)]] a +30 AS bonus from camouflage for multiple attacks. Yes both weapons get the bonus from a ranger leaping to ambush or 'plain attacking' from a camo 608 position, so this can be used by non ambusher for the boost if your quick, so you at least get the +30 AS bonus.

[[Wall of Thorns (640)]] of great assistance to a TWC ranger, the best defense is having the trees block for you and not getting hit at all.

[[650|Assume aspect (650)]] is custom made for a TWC ranger, allowing you to tweak your form to meet the current threat or boost a weakness. (alternating between rat and wolf for example maintains a boost to your agi/dex)

All Rangers also benefit from a plethora of set up spells that can complement any weapon style, such as [[Sounds (607)]], [[610|Tangle weed (610)]] , [[Call Swarm (615)]] and Sunburst (609) (note the effects vs undead)

TWC rangers will find great use in the [[Minor Spiritual]] spell circle, especially [[Spirit Barrier (102)]] and [[106|Spirit fog (106)]], to provide added defenses. Note that 102 gives a penalty to [[Attack strength|AS]] so you could [[STOP (verb)|STOP 102]], which removes the spell so you can attack without the penalty making for a creative low mana Shield/stance dance option, also breeze will eliminate 106, however that is mana intensive.

==Two Weapon Combat Training==
The introduction of Fix skills and Fix Stats, will allows new rangers to tweak their efforts with great ease. I suggest Maintain your core training, finesse skills/Stats as starting Stats have increased and allow you to gain more your training points while boosting over all stat totals. (this is an entire topic all it's own) (word smith this it isn't sounding right)

===Two Weapon Combat Ranger Core Training===

This is your base training that every two weapon ranger should have each level.

*2x (6/4) [[Combat Maneuvers]]: When points are too tight, you can skip some here if you have to, try to keep singling.
*2x (9/6) [[Two Weapon Combat]]:
*2x (9/3) [[Edged Weapons]] (Blunt weapons can be used, slightly increased training cost, do not over look this if it appeals to your style of ranger)
*1x (4/0) [[Physical Fitness]]: (2x as soon as points are available, no shield, you will be getting hit, you need this)
*1x (7/5) [[Dodge]]
*1x (0/5) [[Harness Power]]
*1x (0/17) [[Spell Research]]: (May have to skip spells a few levels until training points work out)
*1x (0/3) [[Perception]]: take higher at cap (if you can single, go for it, I think you will be strapped for points: You can skip this when you need to)

Total of (/) (need to check this it is not right)

===TWC Ranger Discreet Training===

These values are plateaus you should strive to reach at some point in your career.

*1x (5/0) [[Armor Use]]: (Aurach's goal was 110 ranks for a chain hauberk and then 170 ranks post cap to reduce maneuver penalties in hauberk)
*5 ranks of [[Multi Opponent Combat]] (10/4) as soon as you can fit it in. (30 ranks allows 2 strikes per weapon on a target, 55 ranks allows you to focus mstrike 3 times per weapon on a single target) Reduces effects of being outnumbered.
*50 Ranks in [[Climbing]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make climb checks prior to that.
*50 Ranks in [[Swimming]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make swim checks prior to that.
*[[Spiritual Lore, Blessings]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after Getting 650
*[[Spiritual Lore, Summoning]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after getting 650
(your 1 rank of these two lores gives slight increases in many of your spells, low training point cost boosts, 5 ranks is Blessing lore is very interesting also as it will allow your 117 spirit strike to have a 3% chance to affect two strikes for you being both weapons)

===Spell Research===

My preferred training order: for a two weapon build
601, 101-103, 602-618, 104-107, 619-650, 108-130, Ranger ranks for life 'Aurach Moonshadew'

(other rangers prefer minor spirit 140 and ranger 162 which provides the best CS)

I prefer to get hues, then 101-103, I like having the low mana shield of 102 with this type of character.
After that Mobility is the goal. Then getting deep blues. Then I would head for Aspect.
This is simply my preference looking back on my build.

===Optional Additional Training===

A list of the most common skills to use your additional training points on.

*1x [[Ambush]] when you can fit the ranks in, 1x at cap (more as you feel the need) (I am singled at cap currently and do very well ambushing)
*2x [[Stalking and Hiding]] – If you plan to ambush at cap you will want to 2x this, post cap
*1x-2x [[Survival]] – This will aid skinning, foraging, and overland movement
*1x-2x [[First Aid]] – This will aid in skinning and reduce herb eating RT
*Spiritual Lore: Blessing and Summoning ranger preference, I think it should be gained after ranger spells are maxed, however 5 ranks of blessing lore will allow a 3% chance to have MS117 affect two strikes low chance but is nice when it happens)
*[[Magic Item Use]] I regret not having this 1x earlier. I did it post cap and love it.
*[[Arcane Symbols]] I regret not having this 1x earlier (immediately after MIU).
*15 ranks [[Spiritual Mana Control]] as soon as you learn it is fun to share and play well with others. 15 ranks is enough to share with most Older Spirit mana using folks (25 ranks post cap if you like).

===Post Cap Goals===

*2x Physical Fitness (immediately at cap or earlier)
*2x [[Combat Maneuvers]] (At cap or earlier)
*2x [[Dodge]] (after maxing ranger spells)
*55 ranks [[Multi-Opponent Combat]] for 6 strikes focused on a single target
[[Thrown Weapons]] may be a very interesting post cap goal, since you will throw both weapons and you already have the required support skill ([[TWC]], [[Perception]], Combat Maneuvers)
Blessing Lore
Summoning Lore

'''[[Combat Maneuver]] skills (mine at cap at moment) Post Cap goals:'''
{|{{prettytable}}
|-style = "background:#DDD; color: blue"
!Skill
!Mnemonic
!Ranks
|-align=center
|[[Cunning Defense]]
|cdefense
|5
|-align=center
|[[Combat Movement]]
|cmovement
|5
|-align=center
|[[Hamstring]]
|hamstring
|5
|-align=center
|[[Disarm Weapon]]
|disarm
|5
|-align=center
|[[Shadow Mastery]]
|smastery
|5
|-align=center
|[[Sweep]]
|sweep
|1
|-align=center
|[[Garrote]]
|garrote
|1
|-align=center
|[[Subdual Strike]]
|sstrike
|1
|}

*TWC rangers will find these useful (order of preference for me was Cdefense, Cmovement, Hamstring, Disarm, Smastery)

This is simply how Aurach trained Combat maneuver skills.

==Race==
I would hope race depends largely on the vision you have for your ranger. That being said, Agility and Dexterity are very important to reduce RT. A race that has strength and can manage encumbrance would also be wise.

==What Armor to use?==
The best armor you can afford.

My advice is Double leather, then Brigandine, then hauberk, for Full body coverage. I like the full body coverage as it allows me to wear arm/leg greaves, helm, and aventails, if I choose with no added penalties. I kept my eye out for enhancives on the added armor pieces. Padding crit or damage is always a good choice if you can afford it.

My cap armor is an imflass chain hauberk, with added helm, arm and leg greaves and aventail, it has 11% hinderance. I find the failure acceptable to my style. Some will not. A paladin for fluidity would be fantastic. I also kept training armor to reduce maneuver penalties. Armor skill is also a secondary skill for redux so serves some double duty.

==Keeping your RT manageable==

You will find the links below for Agi/Dex and Two weapon combat RT. The RT is probably the most confusing part of using two weapons. I say this because from time to time, it does not match the documents. Weapon weights, base speed, Agi/Dex, encumberance, and Character strength all affect your RT. (Assume Aspect, Phoen's Strength, Enhancive items, and Wizard strength will be the greatest help here)

To really enjoy and work the two weapon using ranger. You will need to test various combinations of weapons. Early on you might try short sword and gauche for the gauches added DS when used in off hand. Later on perhaps a long sword/short sword when you want to hit harder and keep RT manageable. Too many weapons to list.

==A Rangers Weapon Sets==
There are many weapons to try. Your ranger will have two or possibly three different sets as he heads out on patrol at certain points in thier career. This is where you get to show your rangers individuality.

My carry weapons at cap are: longsword/shortsword set, two hand axe set, and a dagger set. This is not based on min maxing, it is more a collection of style, effectiveness vs heavy armor, and a couple speed weapons for when encumbered by heaps of treasure and skins.

Do not forget to look at blunt weapons if that is more appealing to you.

I can say, that this will be fun. Try all kinds of cheap sets of weapons to get what feels right.
This will evolve as Stats increase, better enhancive items are acquired, and weapon choice vs armor types are considered

So, what feels right now, may change at various training stages and against different types of armor types (critters).

Feras weapons, Flares, Ensorcellment, Weighting (crit and damage) can all boost your effectiveness. You hit twice as often and good combinations of the previous can add great advantages to your ranger.

https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Edged_Weapons
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Roundtime
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat

==TWC Defenses==

'All about that AS that AS , no defense, it's all about the AS'

Ok, so seriously, defenses as a two weapon using ranger. As usual we have some good options available.

'''TWC Parry DS:''' https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat
I cannot explain it better than is listed.

'''Stances:''' No really there are stances other than OFF and DEF. A good understanding of how you can adjust your stance to maintain adequate defense for the current threat and still provide you with enough offensive punch to down your enemies will really help. Your ranger spells have a great variety to help you to do this.

'''TWC Out Right Parry:''' each weapon will provide a 5% chance to parry incoming melee attacks against like level foes in stance offensive (https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Parry) Assume Aspect:Mantis aids nicely with both weapons chances to parry.

'''Bolt Defenses''': Two Weapon Combat style does not offer good bolt defenses (no shield). So, as a ranger we adapt. The ranger spell list and minor spell list will provide a great amount of assistance to our Bolt DS. I would like to focus on those that you can use to finesse things and make your twc ranger even more protected. Minor Spirit Air wall 102, and Fog 106 can be used as well as seeking areas when hunting that provide natural defenses. Your wall of thorns blocking incoming attacks,(later boosted by Aspect Porcupine), and Evasion/dodge (boosted by serpent) however will all aid you greatly. ''Assume Aspect Mantis with a runestaff will parry bolts/arrows as well. (test it)'' Rotating aspects when mana is not the main issue.

'''NOTE: The following Runestaff comments are for much later down the line but am tossing it in here for reference''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying Bolts and arrows. Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This would require a runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider. Test it out if you find the need for more bolt defenses beyond what you get from Wall of Thorns or out right evasion.

'''Evade''' Can be boosted by your Aspect Serpent, I saw a really significant increase here from 21% to 40%.

==runestaff test==
'''NOTE''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying bolts spells, ball spells, and arrows. Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This Would require runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider. Test it out.

An 800 attack test with the mage Drafix's assistance has shown my ranger's wall of thorns stopped about 21% of incoming bolt attacks. 24% were then outright evaded (wearing my hauberk or not wearing it was the same due to armor over training), (this increased to 40% evaded with Aspect Serpent running) and then after that 7% were blocked by the runestaff. Giving an over all total of 51%+ to 67% stopped/evaded/parried.

Also, the % was based on bolt spell by like level caster. I believe the Ball spells and Arrows the % to parry are different. And did not do a deep test of those at this time.

The rune staff below is +8 deringo. (a staff with eblade on it would cost next to nothing) (test for this posting was 8 of 20 and 10 of 27) using mantis against ball spells

''Sepher gestures at you''.

Sepher hurls a roaring ball of fire at you!

You deflect the bolt with your runestaff!

''Sepher nocks a dull black wooden arrow fletched with white-spotted falcon feathers in his sephwir long bow.'' (10/35 against arrows)

Sepher fires a dull black arrow at you!

You deflect the arrow with your runestaff!

The arrow disappears into the local environs.

Now I certainly do not expect everyone using TWC to invest in runestaves. But please remember that was 7% of the over all total attacks, not the ones that got past wall of thorns or were evaded outright) the runestaff seemed to parry about 11% of the bolts it had a chance to parry. So, if bolts become an issue, it is something to consider since you do have magical training as a semi and have a Bolt Weakness using Two weapons. You could also pick up a shield and train it, but the magical skills you have most likely have already trained in.

==Society==

(Anyone want to toss in pro-cons please do so)

Aurach is a member of Voln. Two Weapons against the many non-critable undead has worked rather well.

==recap==
So, this is my thoughts on two weapon using rangers. I will be adding more as thoughts come to me. I find the capped version to be where my character really came into his own. There seemed to be a non-stop struggle to survive when I was hunting early on. But so much has changed since then. I think a two weapon combat ranger at this point would have great strengths right from the beginning.

John
mind behind Aurach Moonshadew the Gallant, 'two-blader' of Auld Ta'Faendryl

==See Also==
*[[Ranger]] (main article)
*[[A beginner's guide to playing a ranger]]
http://www.play.net/gs4/info/skills.asp#twoweaponcombat
Evade
Parry

==References==
*[http://www.play.net/gs4/info/professions/rangers.asp Ranger profession on Play.net]

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[[Category:Ranger]]
[[Category:Professional Guides]]

Aurach's Two Weapon Combat Guide: A Ranger's Perspective

2015-02-19T22:23:00Z

SHEN1: /* The Two Weapon Combat Ranger */

{{Work-in-progress}}

==The Two Weapon Combat Ranger==
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/File:Twcranger.jpg (need to add this in off to side at some point visibly)

The whirling scimitars of Drizzsdt Do'Urden, The 'mountain charge to rescue' in Last of the Mohican's using Hatchet and knife, Lancelot's dual short swords in King Arthur, all bring the vision of our champion, the Two Weapon Combat Ranger. A challenging training path, with strong reliance on attack and speed.

Very few rangers take this path. It is up hill both ways, in the snow, at night, crossing a frigid streams, without boots.

Why are you still reading?

Let me say this one more time. It is very costly in training points, it delays most other skills/spells and you have little bolt defense. You may find training the TWC combat skill and adjusting to this style at cap MUCH easier.

If you are still reading you are probably hard headed enough.

However, other guides have said there is really no 'bad' way to train a ranger. Two weapon combat from a rangers birth is probably really close however.

Good Luck

==Why two weapons?==

Most ambushing rangers and archers can kill with one well placed strike. So too can the two weapon ambushing ranger, but the world has creatures that cannot be critical struck and only massive raw damage will suffice.

Enter our ranger hero, weapon in each hand, spell at the ready. 'Guts, 'Glory, 'Aspects'

For me the style has always been about using your magics and blades together. This is really not a stand in the open and get beat on type of style. You can do that however. I prefer the use of good timing, and a rather large variety of spells to maneuver your opponents into situations favorable to you.

Your greatest strength is your variety of magics, combat maneuver skills, and weapons combined.

From the skills and stats a Ranger can be a very good two weapon user. Great spirit warding, good variety of spells, low costs to train a variety of skills, some of the best attack spells for a semi, great defensive spells all make for a really versatile and easily adjustable character.

While not recommended to try from early on, this style when combined with ambushing and Multi Opponent Combat is absolutely devastating.

==Ranger Spells==
The ranger spell list provides some unique benefits for TWC rangers, both directly and indirectly.

[[606|Phoen's strength (606)]] gives a phantom increase of +10 to [[Strength|strength]] bonus. Strength is incredibly important to keep RT down (encumbrance really affects the left hand weapon).

[[Mobility (618)]] offers a large bonus to Dodge, a TWC rangers primary defense

[[Camouflage (608)]] a +30 AS bonus from camouflage for multiple attacks. Yes both weapons get the bonus from a ranger leaping to ambush or 'plain attacking' from a camo 608 position, so this can be used by non ambusher for the boost if your quick, so you at least get the +30 AS bonus.

[[Wall of Thorns (640)]] of great assistance to a TWC ranger, the best defense is having the trees block for you and not getting hit at all.

[[650|Assume aspect (650)]] is custom made for a TWC ranger, allowing you to tweak your form to meet the current threat or boost a weakness. (alternating between rat and wolf for example maintains a boost to your agi/dex)

All Rangers also benefit from a plethora of set up spells that can complement any weapon style, such as [[Sounds (607)]], [[610|Tangle weed (610)]] , [[Call Swarm (615)]] and Sunburst (609) (note the effects vs undead)

TWC rangers will find great use in the [[Minor Spiritual]] spell circle, especially [[Spirit Barrier (102)]] and [[106|Spirit fog (106)]], to provide added defenses. Note that 102 gives a penalty to [[Attack strength|AS]] so you could [[STOP (verb)|STOP 102]], which removes the spell so you can attack without the penalty making for a creative low mana Shield/stance dance option, also breeze will eliminate 106, however that is mana intensive.

==Two Weapon Combat Training==
The introduction of Fix skills and Fix Stats, will allows new rangers to tweak their efforts with great ease. I suggest Maintain your core training, finesse skills/Stats as starting Stats have increased and allow you to gain more your training points while boosting over all stat totals. (this is an entire topic all it's own) (word smith this it isn't sounding right)

===Two Weapon Combat Ranger Core Training===

This is your base training that every two weapon ranger should have each level.

*2x (6/4) [[Combat Maneuvers]]:
*2x (9/6) [[Two Weapon Combat]]:
*2x (9/3) [[Edged Weapons]] (Blunt weapons can be used, slightly increased training cost, do not over look this if it appeals to your style of ranger)
*1x (4/0) [[Physical Fitness]]: (2x as soon as points are available, no shield, you will be getting hit, you need this)
*1x (7/5) [[Dodge]]
*1x (0/5) [[Harness Power]]
*1x (0/17) [[Spell Research]]: (May have to skip spells a few levels until training points work out)
*1x (0/3) [[Perception]]: take higher at cap (if you can single, go for it, I think you will be strapped for points: You can skip this when you need to)

Total of (/) (need to check this it is not right)

===TWC Ranger Discreet Training===

These values are plateaus you should strive to reach at some point in your career.

*1x (5/0) [[Armor Use]]: (Aurach's goal was 110 ranks for a chain hauberk and then 170 ranks post cap to reduce maneuver penalties in hauberk)
*5 ranks of [[Multi Opponent Combat]] (10/4) as soon as you can fit it in. (30 ranks allows 2 strikes per weapon on a target, 55 ranks allows you to focus mstrike 3 times per weapon on a single target) Reduces effects of being outnumbered.
*50 Ranks in [[Climbing]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make climb checks prior to that.
*50 Ranks in [[Swimming]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make swim checks prior to that.
*[[Spiritual Lore, Blessings]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after Getting 650
*[[Spiritual Lore, Summoning]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after getting 650
(your 1 rank of these two lores gives slight increases in many of your spells, low training point cost boosts, 5 ranks is Blessing lore is very interesting also as it will allow your 117 spirit strike to have a 3% chance to affect two strikes for you being both weapons)

===Spell Research===

My preferred training order: for a two weapon build
601, 101-103, 602-618, 104-107, 619-650, 108-130, Ranger ranks for life 'Aurach Moonshadew'

(other rangers prefer minor spirit 140 and ranger 162 which provides the best CS)

I prefer to get hues, then 101-103, I like having the low mana shield of 102 with this type of character.
After that Mobility is the goal. Then getting deep blues. Then I would head for Aspect.
This is simply my preference looking back on my build.

===Optional Additional Training===

A list of the most common skills to use your additional training points on.

*1x [[Ambush]] when you can fit the ranks in, 1x at cap (more as you feel the need) (I am singled at cap currently and do very well ambushing)
*2x [[Stalking and Hiding]] – If you plan to ambush at cap you will want to 2x this, post cap
*1x-2x [[Survival]] – This will aid skinning, foraging, and overland movement
*1x-2x [[First Aid]] – This will aid in skinning and reduce herb eating RT
*Spiritual Lore: Blessing and Summoning ranger preference, I think it should be gained after ranger spells are maxed, however 5 ranks of blessing lore will allow a 3% chance to have MS117 affect two strikes low chance but is nice when it happens)
*[[Magic Item Use]] I regret not having this 1x earlier. I did it post cap and love it.
*[[Arcane Symbols]] I regret not having this 1x earlier (immediately after MIU).
*15 ranks [[Spiritual Mana Control]] as soon as you learn it is fun to share and play well with others. 15 ranks is enough to share with most Older Spirit mana using folks (25 ranks post cap if you like).

===Post Cap Goals===

*2x Physical Fitness (immediately at cap or earlier)
*2x [[Combat Maneuvers]] (At cap or earlier)
*2x [[Dodge]] (after maxing ranger spells)
*55 ranks [[Multi-Opponent Combat]] for 6 strikes focused on a single target
[[Thrown Weapons]] may be a very interesting post cap goal, since you will throw both weapons and you already have the required support skill ([[TWC]], [[Perception]], Combat Maneuvers)
Blessing Lore
Summoning Lore

'''[[Combat Maneuver]] skills (mine at cap at moment) Post Cap goals:'''
{|{{prettytable}}
|-style = "background:#DDD; color: blue"
!Skill
!Mnemonic
!Ranks
|-align=center
|[[Cunning Defense]]
|cdefense
|5
|-align=center
|[[Combat Movement]]
|cmovement
|5
|-align=center
|[[Hamstring]]
|hamstring
|5
|-align=center
|[[Disarm Weapon]]
|disarm
|5
|-align=center
|[[Shadow Mastery]]
|smastery
|5
|-align=center
|[[Sweep]]
|sweep
|1
|-align=center
|[[Garrote]]
|garrote
|1
|-align=center
|[[Subdual Strike]]
|sstrike
|1
|}

*TWC rangers will find these useful (order of preference for me was Cdefense, Cmovement, Hamstring, Disarm, Smastery)

This is simply how Aurach trained Combat maneuver skills.

==Race==
I would hope race depends largely on the vision you have for your ranger. That being said, Agility and Dexterity are very important to reduce RT. A race that has strength and can manage encumbrance would also be wise.

==What Armor to use?==
The best armor you can afford.

My advice is Double leather, then Brigandine, then hauberk, for Full body coverage. I like the full body coverage as it allows me to wear arm/leg greaves, helm, and aventails, if I choose with no added penalties. I kept my eye out for enhancives on the added armor pieces. Padding crit or damage is always a good choice if you can afford it.

My cap armor is an imflass chain hauberk, with added helm, arm and leg greaves and aventail, it has 11% hinderance. I find the failure acceptable to my style. Some will not. A paladin for fluidity would be fantastic. I also kept training armor to reduce maneuver penalties. Armor skill is also a secondary skill for redux so serves some double duty.

==Keeping your RT manageable==

You will find the links below for Agi/Dex and Two weapon combat RT. The RT is probably the most confusing part of using two weapons. I say this because from time to time, it does not match the documents. Weapon weights, base speed, Agi/Dex, encumberance, and Character strength all affect your RT. (Assume Aspect, Phoen's Strength, Enhancive items, and Wizard strength will be the greatest help here)

To really enjoy and work the two weapon using ranger. You will need to test various combinations of weapons. Early on you might try short sword and gauche for the gauches added DS when used in off hand. Later on perhaps a long sword/short sword when you want to hit harder and keep RT manageable. Too many weapons to list.

==A Rangers Weapon Sets==
There are many weapons to try. Your ranger will have two or possibly three different sets as he heads out on patrol at certain points in thier career. This is where you get to show your rangers individuality.

My carry weapons at cap are: longsword/shortsword set, two hand axe set, and a dagger set. This is not based on min maxing, it is more a collection of style, effectiveness vs heavy armor, and a couple speed weapons for when encumbered by heaps of treasure and skins.

Do not forget to look at blunt weapons if that is more appealing to you.

I can say, that this will be fun. Try all kinds of cheap sets of weapons to get what feels right.
This will evolve as Stats increase, better enhancive items are acquired, and weapon choice vs armor types are considered

So, what feels right now, may change at various training stages and against different types of armor types (critters).

Feras weapons, Flares, Ensorcellment, Weighting (crit and damage) can all boost your effectiveness. You hit twice as often and good combinations of the previous can add great advantages to your ranger.

https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Edged_Weapons
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Roundtime
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat

==TWC Defenses==

'All about that AS that AS , no defense, it's all about the AS'

Ok, so seriously, defenses as a two weapon using ranger. As usual we have some good options available.

'''TWC Parry DS:''' https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat
I cannot explain it better than is listed.

'''Stances:''' No really there are stances other than OFF and DEF. A good understanding of how you can adjust your stance to maintain adequate defense for the current threat and still provide you with enough offensive punch to down your enemies will really help. Your ranger spells have a great variety to help you to do this.

'''TWC Out Right Parry:''' each weapon will provide a 5% chance to parry incoming melee attacks against like level foes in stance offensive (https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Parry) Assume Aspect:Mantis aids nicely with both weapons chances to parry.

'''Bolt Defenses''': Two Weapon Combat style does not offer good bolt defenses (no shield). So, as a ranger we adapt. The ranger spell list and minor spell list will provide a great amount of assistance to our Bolt DS. I would like to focus on those that you can use to finesse things and make your twc ranger even more protected. Minor Spirit Air wall 102, and Fog 106 can be used as well as seeking areas when hunting that provide natural defenses. Your wall of thorns blocking incoming attacks,(later boosted by Aspect Porcupine), and Evasion/dodge (boosted by serpent) however will all aid you greatly. ''Assume Aspect Mantis with a runestaff will parry bolts/arrows as well. (test it)'' Rotating aspects when mana is not the main issue.

'''NOTE: The following Runestaff comments are for much later down the line but am tossing it in here for reference''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying Bolts and arrows. Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This would require a runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider. Test it out if you find the need for more bolt defenses beyond what you get from Wall of Thorns or out right evasion.

'''Evade''' Can be boosted by your Aspect Serpent, I saw a really significant increase here from 21% to 40%.

==runestaff test==
'''NOTE''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying bolts spells, ball spells, and arrows. Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This Would require runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider. Test it out.

An 800 attack test with the mage Drafix's assistance has shown my ranger's wall of thorns stopped about 21% of incoming bolt attacks. 24% were then outright evaded (wearing my hauberk or not wearing it was the same due to armor over training), (this increased to 40% evaded with Aspect Serpent running) and then after that 7% were blocked by the runestaff. Giving an over all total of 51%+ to 67% stopped/evaded/parried.

Also, the % was based on bolt spell by like level caster. I believe the Ball spells and Arrows the % to parry are different. And did not do a deep test of those at this time.

The rune staff below is +8 deringo. (a staff with eblade on it would cost next to nothing) (test for this posting was 8 of 20 and 10 of 27) using mantis against ball spells

''Sepher gestures at you''.

Sepher hurls a roaring ball of fire at you!

You deflect the bolt with your runestaff!

''Sepher nocks a dull black wooden arrow fletched with white-spotted falcon feathers in his sephwir long bow.'' (10/35 against arrows)

Sepher fires a dull black arrow at you!

You deflect the arrow with your runestaff!

The arrow disappears into the local environs.

Now I certainly do not expect everyone using TWC to invest in runestaves. But please remember that was 7% of the over all total attacks, not the ones that got past wall of thorns or were evaded outright) the runestaff seemed to parry about 11% of the bolts it had a chance to parry. So, if bolts become an issue, it is something to consider since you do have magical training as a semi and have a Bolt Weakness using Two weapons. You could also pick up a shield and train it, but the magical skills you have most likely have already trained in.

==Society==

(Anyone want to toss in pro-cons please do so)

Aurach is a member of Voln. Two Weapons against the many non-critable undead has worked rather well.

==recap==
So, this is my thoughts on two weapon using rangers. I will be adding more as thoughts come to me. I find the capped version to be where my character really came into his own. There seemed to be a non-stop struggle to survive when I was hunting early on. But so much has changed since then. I think a two weapon combat ranger at this point would have great strengths right from the beginning.

John
mind behind Aurach Moonshadew the Gallant, 'two-blader' of Auld Ta'Faendryl

==See Also==
*[[Ranger]] (main article)
*[[A beginner's guide to playing a ranger]]
http://www.play.net/gs4/info/skills.asp#twoweaponcombat
Evade
Parry

==References==
*[http://www.play.net/gs4/info/professions/rangers.asp Ranger profession on Play.net]

{{stub}}
[[Category:Guides]]
[[Category:Ranger]]
[[Category:Professional Guides]]

Aurach's Two Weapon Combat Guide: A Ranger's Perspective

2015-02-19T21:54:13Z

SHEN1: /* Two Weapon Combat Ranger Core Training */

{{Work-in-progress}}

==The Two Weapon Combat Ranger==
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/File:Twcranger.jpg (need to add this in off to side at some point visibly)

The whirling scimitars of Drizzsdt Do'Urden, The 'mountain charge to rescue' in Last of the Mohican's using Hatchet and knife, Lancelot's dual short swords in King Arthur, all bring the vision of our champion, the Two Weapon Combat Ranger. A challenging training path, with strong reliance on attack and speed.

Very few rangers take this path. It is up hill both ways, in the snow, at night, crossing a frigid streams, without boots.

Why are you still reading?

Let me say this one more time. It is very costly in training points, it delays most other skills/spells and you have little bolt defense. You may find training the TWC combat skill and adjusting to this style at cap MUCH easier.

If you are still reading your probably hard headed enough.

However, other guides have said there is really no 'bad' way to train a ranger. Two weapon combat from a rangers birth is probably really close however.

Good Luck

==Why two weapons?==

Most ambushing rangers and archers can kill with one well placed strike. So too can the two weapon ambushing ranger, but the world has creatures that cannot be critical struck and only massive raw damage will suffice.

Enter our ranger hero, weapon in each hand, spell at the ready. 'Guts, 'Glory, 'Aspects'

For me the style has always been about using your magics and blades together. This is really not a stand in the open and get beat on type of style. You can do that however. I prefer the use of good timing, and a rather large variety of spells to maneuver your opponents into situations favorable to you.

Your greatest strength is your variety of magics, combat maneuver skills, and weapons combined.

From the skills and stats a Ranger can be a very good two weapon user. Great spirit warding, good variety of spells, low costs to train a variety of skills, some of the best attack spells for a semi, great defensive spells all make for a really versatile and easily adjustable character.

While not recommended to try from early on, this style when combined with ambushing and Multi Opponent Combat is absolutely devastating.

==Ranger Spells==
The ranger spell list provides some unique benefits for TWC rangers, both directly and indirectly.

[[606|Phoen's strength (606)]] gives a phantom increase of +10 to [[Strength|strength]] bonus. Strength is incredibly important to keep RT down (encumbrance really affects the left hand weapon).

[[Mobility (618)]] offers a large bonus to Dodge, a TWC rangers primary defense

[[Camouflage (608)]] a +30 AS bonus from camouflage for multiple attacks. Yes both weapons get the bonus from a ranger leaping to ambush or 'plain attacking' from a camo 608 position, so this can be used by non ambusher for the boost if your quick, so you at least get the +30 AS bonus.

[[Wall of Thorns (640)]] of great assistance to a TWC ranger, the best defense is having the trees block for you and not getting hit at all.

[[650|Assume aspect (650)]] is custom made for a TWC ranger, allowing you to tweak your form to meet the current threat or boost a weakness. (alternating between rat and wolf for example maintains a boost to your agi/dex)

All Rangers also benefit from a plethora of set up spells that can complement any weapon style, such as [[Sounds (607)]], [[610|Tangle weed (610)]] , [[Call Swarm (615)]] and Sunburst (609) (note the effects vs undead)

TWC rangers will find great use in the [[Minor Spiritual]] spell circle, especially [[Spirit Barrier (102)]] and [[106|Spirit fog (106)]], to provide added defenses. Note that 102 gives a penalty to [[Attack strength|AS]] so you could [[STOP (verb)|STOP 102]], which removes the spell so you can attack without the penalty making for a creative low mana Shield/stance dance option, also breeze will eliminate 106, however that is mana intensive.

==Two Weapon Combat Training==
The introduction of Fix skills and Fix Stats, will allows new rangers to tweak their efforts with great ease. I suggest Maintain your core training, finesse skills/Stats as starting Stats have increased and allow you to gain more your training points while boosting over all stat totals. (this is an entire topic all it's own) (word smith this it isn't sounding right)

===Two Weapon Combat Ranger Core Training===

This is your base training that every two weapon ranger should have each level.

*2x (6/4) [[Combat Maneuvers]]:
*2x (9/6) [[Two Weapon Combat]]:
*2x (9/3) [[Edged Weapons]] (Blunt weapons can be used, slightly increased training cost, do not over look this if it appeals to your style of ranger)
*1x (4/0) [[Physical Fitness]]: (2x as soon as points are available, no shield, you will be getting hit, you need this)
*1x (7/5) [[Dodge]]
*1x (0/5) [[Harness Power]]
*1x (0/17) [[Spell Research]]: (May have to skip spells a few levels until training points work out)
*1x (0/3) [[Perception]]: take higher at cap (if you can single, go for it, I think you will be strapped for points: You can skip this when you need to)

Total of (/) (need to check this it is not right)

===TWC Ranger Discreet Training===

These values are plateaus you should strive to reach at some point in your career.

*1x (5/0) [[Armor Use]]: (Aurach's goal was 110 ranks for a chain hauberk and then 170 ranks post cap to reduce maneuver penalties in hauberk)
*5 ranks of [[Multi Opponent Combat]] (10/4) as soon as you can fit it in. (30 ranks allows 2 strikes per weapon on a target, 55 ranks allows you to focus mstrike 3 times per weapon on a single target) Reduces effects of being outnumbered.
*50 Ranks in [[Climbing]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make climb checks prior to that.
*50 Ranks in [[Swimming]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make swim checks prior to that.
*[[Spiritual Lore, Blessings]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after Getting 650
*[[Spiritual Lore, Summoning]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after getting 650
(your 1 rank of these two lores gives slight increases in many of your spells, low training point cost boosts, 5 ranks is Blessing lore is very interesting also as it will allow your 117 spirit strike to have a 3% chance to affect two strikes for you being both weapons)

===Spell Research===

My preferred training order: for a two weapon build
601, 101-103, 602-618, 104-107, 619-650, 108-130, Ranger ranks for life 'Aurach Moonshadew'

(other rangers prefer minor spirit 140 and ranger 162 which provides the best CS)

I prefer to get hues, then 101-103, I like having the low mana shield of 102 with this type of character.
After that Mobility is the goal. Then getting deep blues. Then I would head for Aspect.
This is simply my preference looking back on my build.

===Optional Additional Training===

A list of the most common skills to use your additional training points on.

*1x [[Ambush]] when you can fit the ranks in, 1x at cap (more as you feel the need) (I am singled at cap currently and do very well ambushing)
*2x [[Stalking and Hiding]] – If you plan to ambush at cap you will want to 2x this, post cap
*1x-2x [[Survival]] – This will aid skinning, foraging, and overland movement
*1x-2x [[First Aid]] – This will aid in skinning and reduce herb eating RT
*Spiritual Lore: Blessing and Summoning ranger preference, I think it should be gained after ranger spells are maxed, however 5 ranks of blessing lore will allow a 3% chance to have MS117 affect two strikes low chance but is nice when it happens)
*[[Magic Item Use]] I regret not having this 1x earlier. I did it post cap and love it.
*[[Arcane Symbols]] I regret not having this 1x earlier (immediately after MIU).
*15 ranks [[Spiritual Mana Control]] as soon as you learn it is fun to share and play well with others. 15 ranks is enough to share with most Older Spirit mana using folks (25 ranks post cap if you like).

===Post Cap Goals===

*2x Physical Fitness (immediately at cap or earlier)
*2x [[Combat Maneuvers]] (At cap or earlier)
*2x [[Dodge]] (after maxing ranger spells)
*55 ranks [[Multi-Opponent Combat]] for 6 strikes focused on a single target
[[Thrown Weapons]] may be a very interesting post cap goal, since you will throw both weapons and you already have the required support skill ([[TWC]], [[Perception]], Combat Maneuvers)
Blessing Lore
Summoning Lore

'''[[Combat Maneuver]] skills (mine at cap at moment) Post Cap goals:'''
{|{{prettytable}}
|-style = "background:#DDD; color: blue"
!Skill
!Mnemonic
!Ranks
|-align=center
|[[Cunning Defense]]
|cdefense
|5
|-align=center
|[[Combat Movement]]
|cmovement
|5
|-align=center
|[[Hamstring]]
|hamstring
|5
|-align=center
|[[Disarm Weapon]]
|disarm
|5
|-align=center
|[[Shadow Mastery]]
|smastery
|5
|-align=center
|[[Sweep]]
|sweep
|1
|-align=center
|[[Garrote]]
|garrote
|1
|-align=center
|[[Subdual Strike]]
|sstrike
|1
|}

*TWC rangers will find these useful (order of preference for me was Cdefense, Cmovement, Hamstring, Disarm, Smastery)

This is simply how Aurach trained Combat maneuver skills.

==Race==
I would hope race depends largely on the vision you have for your ranger. That being said, Agility and Dexterity are very important to reduce RT. A race that has strength and can manage encumbrance would also be wise.

==What Armor to use?==
The best armor you can afford.

My advice is Double leather, then Brigandine, then hauberk, for Full body coverage. I like the full body coverage as it allows me to wear arm/leg greaves, helm, and aventails, if I choose with no added penalties. I kept my eye out for enhancives on the added armor pieces. Padding crit or damage is always a good choice if you can afford it.

My cap armor is an imflass chain hauberk, with added helm, arm and leg greaves and aventail, it has 11% hinderance. I find the failure acceptable to my style. Some will not. A paladin for fluidity would be fantastic. I also kept training armor to reduce maneuver penalties. Armor skill is also a secondary skill for redux so serves some double duty.

==Keeping your RT manageable==

You will find the links below for Agi/Dex and Two weapon combat RT. The RT is probably the most confusing part of using two weapons. I say this because from time to time, it does not match the documents. Weapon weights, base speed, Agi/Dex, encumberance, and Character strength all affect your RT. (Assume Aspect, Phoen's Strength, Enhancive items, and Wizard strength will be the greatest help here)

To really enjoy and work the two weapon using ranger. You will need to test various combinations of weapons. Early on you might try short sword and gauche for the gauches added DS when used in off hand. Later on perhaps a long sword/short sword when you want to hit harder and keep RT manageable. Too many weapons to list.

==A Rangers Weapon Sets==
There are many weapons to try. Your ranger will have two or possibly three different sets as he heads out on patrol at certain points in thier career. This is where you get to show your rangers individuality.

My carry weapons at cap are: longsword/shortsword set, two hand axe set, and a dagger set. This is not based on min maxing, it is more a collection of style, effectiveness vs heavy armor, and a couple speed weapons for when encumbered by heaps of treasure and skins.

Do not forget to look at blunt weapons if that is more appealing to you.

I can say, that this will be fun. Try all kinds of cheap sets of weapons to get what feels right.
This will evolve as Stats increase, better enhancive items are acquired, and weapon choice vs armor types are considered

So, what feels right now, may change at various training stages and against different types of armor types (critters).

Feras weapons, Flares, Ensorcellment, Weighting (crit and damage) can all boost your effectiveness. You hit twice as often and good combinations of the previous can add great advantages to your ranger.

https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Edged_Weapons
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Roundtime
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat

==TWC Defenses==

'All about that AS that AS , no defense, it's all about the AS'

Ok, so seriously, defenses as a two weapon using ranger. As usual we have some good options available.

'''TWC Parry DS:''' https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat
I cannot explain it better than is listed.

'''Stances:''' No really there are stances other than OFF and DEF. A good understanding of how you can adjust your stance to maintain adequate defense for the current threat and still provide you with enough offensive punch to down your enemies will really help. Your ranger spells have a great variety to help you to do this.

'''TWC Out Right Parry:''' each weapon will provide a 5% chance to parry incoming melee attacks against like level foes in stance offensive (https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Parry) Assume Aspect:Mantis aids nicely with both weapons chances to parry.

'''Bolt Defenses''': Two Weapon Combat style does not offer good bolt defenses (no shield). So, as a ranger we adapt. The ranger spell list and minor spell list will provide a great amount of assistance to our Bolt DS. I would like to focus on those that you can use to finesse things and make your twc ranger even more protected. Minor Spirit Air wall 102, and Fog 106 can be used as well as seeking areas when hunting that provide natural defenses. Your wall of thorns blocking incoming attacks,(later boosted by Aspect Porcupine), and Evasion/dodge (boosted by serpent) however will all aid you greatly. ''Assume Aspect Mantis with a runestaff will parry bolts/arrows as well. (test it)'' Rotating aspects when mana is not the main issue.

'''NOTE: The following Runestaff comments are for much later down the line but am tossing it in here for reference''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying Bolts and arrows. Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This would require a runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider. Test it out if you find the need for more bolt defenses beyond what you get from Wall of Thorns or out right evasion.

'''Evade''' Can be boosted by your Aspect Serpent, I saw a really significant increase here from 21% to 40%.

==runestaff test==
'''NOTE''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying bolts spells, ball spells, and arrows. Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This Would require runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider. Test it out.

An 800 attack test with the mage Drafix's assistance has shown my ranger's wall of thorns stopped about 21% of incoming bolt attacks. 24% were then outright evaded (wearing my hauberk or not wearing it was the same due to armor over training), (this increased to 40% evaded with Aspect Serpent running) and then after that 7% were blocked by the runestaff. Giving an over all total of 51%+ to 67% stopped/evaded/parried.

Also, the % was based on bolt spell by like level caster. I believe the Ball spells and Arrows the % to parry are different. And did not do a deep test of those at this time.

The rune staff below is +8 deringo. (a staff with eblade on it would cost next to nothing) (test for this posting was 8 of 20 and 10 of 27) using mantis against ball spells

''Sepher gestures at you''.

Sepher hurls a roaring ball of fire at you!

You deflect the bolt with your runestaff!

''Sepher nocks a dull black wooden arrow fletched with white-spotted falcon feathers in his sephwir long bow.'' (10/35 against arrows)

Sepher fires a dull black arrow at you!

You deflect the arrow with your runestaff!

The arrow disappears into the local environs.

Now I certainly do not expect everyone using TWC to invest in runestaves. But please remember that was 7% of the over all total attacks, not the ones that got past wall of thorns or were evaded outright) the runestaff seemed to parry about 11% of the bolts it had a chance to parry. So, if bolts become an issue, it is something to consider since you do have magical training as a semi and have a Bolt Weakness using Two weapons. You could also pick up a shield and train it, but the magical skills you have most likely have already trained in.

==Society==

(Anyone want to toss in pro-cons please do so)

Aurach is a member of Voln. Two Weapons against the many non-critable undead has worked rather well.

==recap==
So, this is my thoughts on two weapon using rangers. I will be adding more as thoughts come to me. I find the capped version to be where my character really came into his own. There seemed to be a non-stop struggle to survive when I was hunting early on. But so much has changed since then. I think a two weapon combat ranger at this point would have great strengths right from the beginning.

John
mind behind Aurach Moonshadew the Gallant, 'two-blader' of Auld Ta'Faendryl

==See Also==
*[[Ranger]] (main article)
*[[A beginner's guide to playing a ranger]]
http://www.play.net/gs4/info/skills.asp#twoweaponcombat
Evade
Parry

==References==
*[http://www.play.net/gs4/info/professions/rangers.asp Ranger profession on Play.net]

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[[Category:Ranger]]
[[Category:Professional Guides]]

Aurach's Two Weapon Combat Guide: A Ranger's Perspective

2015-02-19T21:13:02Z

SHEN1: /* The Two Weapon Combat Ranger */

{{Work-in-progress}}

==The Two Weapon Combat Ranger==
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/File:Twcranger.jpg (need to add this in off to side at some point visibly)

The whirling scimitars of Drizzsdt Do'Urden, The 'mountain charge to rescue' in Last of the Mohican's using Hatchet and knife, Lancelot's dual short swords in King Arthur, all bring the vision of our champion, the Two Weapon Combat Ranger. A challenging training path, with strong reliance on attack and speed.

Very few rangers take this path. It is up hill both ways, in the snow, at night, crossing a frigid streams, without boots.

Why are you still reading?

Let me say this one more time. It is very costly in training points, it delays most other skills/spells and you have little bolt defense. You may find training the TWC combat skill and adjusting to this style at cap MUCH easier.

If you are still reading your probably hard headed enough.

However, other guides have said there is really no 'bad' way to train a ranger. Two weapon combat from a rangers birth is probably really close however.

Good Luck

==Why two weapons?==

Most ambushing rangers and archers can kill with one well placed strike. So too can the two weapon ambushing ranger, but the world has creatures that cannot be critical struck and only massive raw damage will suffice.

Enter our ranger hero, weapon in each hand, spell at the ready. 'Guts, 'Glory, 'Aspects'

For me the style has always been about using your magics and blades together. This is really not a stand in the open and get beat on type of style. You can do that however. I prefer the use of good timing, and a rather large variety of spells to maneuver your opponents into situations favorable to you.

Your greatest strength is your variety of magics, combat maneuver skills, and weapons combined.

From the skills and stats a Ranger can be a very good two weapon user. Great spirit warding, good variety of spells, low costs to train a variety of skills, some of the best attack spells for a semi, great defensive spells all make for a really versatile and easily adjustable character.

While not recommended to try from early on, this style when combined with ambushing and Multi Opponent Combat is absolutely devastating.

==Ranger Spells==
The ranger spell list provides some unique benefits for TWC rangers, both directly and indirectly.

[[606|Phoen's strength (606)]] gives a phantom increase of +10 to [[Strength|strength]] bonus. Strength is incredibly important to keep RT down (encumbrance really affects the left hand weapon).

[[Mobility (618)]] offers a large bonus to Dodge, a TWC rangers primary defense

[[Camouflage (608)]] a +30 AS bonus from camouflage for multiple attacks. Yes both weapons get the bonus from a ranger leaping to ambush or 'plain attacking' from a camo 608 position, so this can be used by non ambusher for the boost if your quick, so you at least get the +30 AS bonus.

[[Wall of Thorns (640)]] of great assistance to a TWC ranger, the best defense is having the trees block for you and not getting hit at all.

[[650|Assume aspect (650)]] is custom made for a TWC ranger, allowing you to tweak your form to meet the current threat or boost a weakness. (alternating between rat and wolf for example maintains a boost to your agi/dex)

All Rangers also benefit from a plethora of set up spells that can complement any weapon style, such as [[Sounds (607)]], [[610|Tangle weed (610)]] , [[Call Swarm (615)]] and Sunburst (609) (note the effects vs undead)

TWC rangers will find great use in the [[Minor Spiritual]] spell circle, especially [[Spirit Barrier (102)]] and [[106|Spirit fog (106)]], to provide added defenses. Note that 102 gives a penalty to [[Attack strength|AS]] so you could [[STOP (verb)|STOP 102]], which removes the spell so you can attack without the penalty making for a creative low mana Shield/stance dance option, also breeze will eliminate 106, however that is mana intensive.

==Two Weapon Combat Training==
The introduction of Fix skills and Fix Stats, will allows new rangers to tweak their efforts with great ease. I suggest Maintain your core training, finesse skills/Stats as starting Stats have increased and allow you to gain more your training points while boosting over all stat totals. (this is an entire topic all it's own) (word smith this it isn't sounding right)

===Two Weapon Combat Ranger Core Training===

This is your base training that every two weapon ranger should have each level.

*2x (6/4) [[Combat Maneuvers]]:
*2x (3/2) [[Two Weapon Combat]]:
*2x (3/1) [[Edged Weapons]] (Blunt weapons can be used, slightly increased training cost, do not over look this if it appeals to your style of ranger)
*1x (4/0) [[Physical Fitness]]: (2x as soon as points are available, no shield, you will be getting hit, you need this)
*1x (7/5) [[Dodge]]
*1x (0/5) [[Harness Power]]
*1x (0/17) [[Spell Research]]: (May have to skip spells a few levels until training points work out)
*1x (0/3) [[Perception]]: take higher at cap (if you can single, go for it, I think you will be strapped for points: You can skip this when you need to)

Total of (/) (need to check this it is not right)

===TWC Ranger Discreet Training===

These values are plateaus you should strive to reach at some point in your career.

*1x (5/0) [[Armor Use]]: (Aurach's goal was 110 ranks for a chain hauberk and then 170 ranks post cap to reduce maneuver penalties in hauberk)
*5 ranks of [[Multi Opponent Combat]] (10/4) as soon as you can fit it in. (30 ranks allows 2 strikes per weapon on a target, 55 ranks allows you to focus mstrike 3 times per weapon on a single target) Reduces effects of being outnumbered.
*50 Ranks in [[Climbing]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make climb checks prior to that.
*50 Ranks in [[Swimming]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make swim checks prior to that.
*[[Spiritual Lore, Blessings]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after Getting 650
*[[Spiritual Lore, Summoning]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after getting 650
(your 1 rank of these two lores gives slight increases in many of your spells, low training point cost boosts, 5 ranks is Blessing lore is very interesting also as it will allow your 117 spirit strike to have a 3% chance to affect two strikes for you being both weapons)

===Spell Research===

My preferred training order: for a two weapon build
601, 101-103, 602-618, 104-107, 619-650, 108-130, Ranger ranks for life 'Aurach Moonshadew'

(other rangers prefer minor spirit 140 and ranger 162 which provides the best CS)

I prefer to get hues, then 101-103, I like having the low mana shield of 102 with this type of character.
After that Mobility is the goal. Then getting deep blues. Then I would head for Aspect.
This is simply my preference looking back on my build.

===Optional Additional Training===

A list of the most common skills to use your additional training points on.

*1x [[Ambush]] when you can fit the ranks in, 1x at cap (more as you feel the need) (I am singled at cap currently and do very well ambushing)
*2x [[Stalking and Hiding]] – If you plan to ambush at cap you will want to 2x this, post cap
*1x-2x [[Survival]] – This will aid skinning, foraging, and overland movement
*1x-2x [[First Aid]] – This will aid in skinning and reduce herb eating RT
*Spiritual Lore: Blessing and Summoning ranger preference, I think it should be gained after ranger spells are maxed, however 5 ranks of blessing lore will allow a 3% chance to have MS117 affect two strikes low chance but is nice when it happens)
*[[Magic Item Use]] I regret not having this 1x earlier. I did it post cap and love it.
*[[Arcane Symbols]] I regret not having this 1x earlier (immediately after MIU).
*15 ranks [[Spiritual Mana Control]] as soon as you learn it is fun to share and play well with others. 15 ranks is enough to share with most Older Spirit mana using folks (25 ranks post cap if you like).

===Post Cap Goals===

*2x Physical Fitness (immediately at cap or earlier)
*2x [[Combat Maneuvers]] (At cap or earlier)
*2x [[Dodge]] (after maxing ranger spells)
*55 ranks [[Multi-Opponent Combat]] for 6 strikes focused on a single target
[[Thrown Weapons]] may be a very interesting post cap goal, since you will throw both weapons and you already have the required support skill ([[TWC]], [[Perception]], Combat Maneuvers)
Blessing Lore
Summoning Lore

'''[[Combat Maneuver]] skills (mine at cap at moment) Post Cap goals:'''
{|{{prettytable}}
|-style = "background:#DDD; color: blue"
!Skill
!Mnemonic
!Ranks
|-align=center
|[[Cunning Defense]]
|cdefense
|5
|-align=center
|[[Combat Movement]]
|cmovement
|5
|-align=center
|[[Hamstring]]
|hamstring
|5
|-align=center
|[[Disarm Weapon]]
|disarm
|5
|-align=center
|[[Shadow Mastery]]
|smastery
|5
|-align=center
|[[Sweep]]
|sweep
|1
|-align=center
|[[Garrote]]
|garrote
|1
|-align=center
|[[Subdual Strike]]
|sstrike
|1
|}

*TWC rangers will find these useful (order of preference for me was Cdefense, Cmovement, Hamstring, Disarm, Smastery)

This is simply how Aurach trained Combat maneuver skills.

==Race==
I would hope race depends largely on the vision you have for your ranger. That being said, Agility and Dexterity are very important to reduce RT. A race that has strength and can manage encumbrance would also be wise.

==What Armor to use?==
The best armor you can afford.

My advice is Double leather, then Brigandine, then hauberk, for Full body coverage. I like the full body coverage as it allows me to wear arm/leg greaves, helm, and aventails, if I choose with no added penalties. I kept my eye out for enhancives on the added armor pieces. Padding crit or damage is always a good choice if you can afford it.

My cap armor is an imflass chain hauberk, with added helm, arm and leg greaves and aventail, it has 11% hinderance. I find the failure acceptable to my style. Some will not. A paladin for fluidity would be fantastic. I also kept training armor to reduce maneuver penalties. Armor skill is also a secondary skill for redux so serves some double duty.

==Keeping your RT manageable==

You will find the links below for Agi/Dex and Two weapon combat RT. The RT is probably the most confusing part of using two weapons. I say this because from time to time, it does not match the documents. Weapon weights, base speed, Agi/Dex, encumberance, and Character strength all affect your RT. (Assume Aspect, Phoen's Strength, Enhancive items, and Wizard strength will be the greatest help here)

To really enjoy and work the two weapon using ranger. You will need to test various combinations of weapons. Early on you might try short sword and gauche for the gauches added DS when used in off hand. Later on perhaps a long sword/short sword when you want to hit harder and keep RT manageable. Too many weapons to list.

==A Rangers Weapon Sets==
There are many weapons to try. Your ranger will have two or possibly three different sets as he heads out on patrol at certain points in thier career. This is where you get to show your rangers individuality.

My carry weapons at cap are: longsword/shortsword set, two hand axe set, and a dagger set. This is not based on min maxing, it is more a collection of style, effectiveness vs heavy armor, and a couple speed weapons for when encumbered by heaps of treasure and skins.

Do not forget to look at blunt weapons if that is more appealing to you.

I can say, that this will be fun. Try all kinds of cheap sets of weapons to get what feels right.
This will evolve as Stats increase, better enhancive items are acquired, and weapon choice vs armor types are considered

So, what feels right now, may change at various training stages and against different types of armor types (critters).

Feras weapons, Flares, Ensorcellment, Weighting (crit and damage) can all boost your effectiveness. You hit twice as often and good combinations of the previous can add great advantages to your ranger.

https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Edged_Weapons
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Roundtime
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat

==TWC Defenses==

'All about that AS that AS , no defense, it's all about the AS'

Ok, so seriously, defenses as a two weapon using ranger. As usual we have some good options available.

'''TWC Parry DS:''' https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat
I cannot explain it better than is listed.

'''Stances:''' No really there are stances other than OFF and DEF. A good understanding of how you can adjust your stance to maintain adequate defense for the current threat and still provide you with enough offensive punch to down your enemies will really help. Your ranger spells have a great variety to help you to do this.

'''TWC Out Right Parry:''' each weapon will provide a 5% chance to parry incoming melee attacks against like level foes in stance offensive (https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Parry) Assume Aspect:Mantis aids nicely with both weapons chances to parry.

'''Bolt Defenses''': Two Weapon Combat style does not offer good bolt defenses (no shield). So, as a ranger we adapt. The ranger spell list and minor spell list will provide a great amount of assistance to our Bolt DS. I would like to focus on those that you can use to finesse things and make your twc ranger even more protected. Minor Spirit Air wall 102, and Fog 106 can be used as well as seeking areas when hunting that provide natural defenses. Your wall of thorns blocking incoming attacks,(later boosted by Aspect Porcupine), and Evasion/dodge (boosted by serpent) however will all aid you greatly. ''Assume Aspect Mantis with a runestaff will parry bolts/arrows as well. (test it)'' Rotating aspects when mana is not the main issue.

'''NOTE: The following Runestaff comments are for much later down the line but am tossing it in here for reference''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying Bolts and arrows. Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This would require a runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider. Test it out if you find the need for more bolt defenses beyond what you get from Wall of Thorns or out right evasion.

'''Evade''' Can be boosted by your Aspect Serpent, I saw a really significant increase here from 21% to 40%.

==runestaff test==
'''NOTE''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying bolts spells, ball spells, and arrows. Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This Would require runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider. Test it out.

An 800 attack test with the mage Drafix's assistance has shown my ranger's wall of thorns stopped about 21% of incoming bolt attacks. 24% were then outright evaded (wearing my hauberk or not wearing it was the same due to armor over training), (this increased to 40% evaded with Aspect Serpent running) and then after that 7% were blocked by the runestaff. Giving an over all total of 51%+ to 67% stopped/evaded/parried.

Also, the % was based on bolt spell by like level caster. I believe the Ball spells and Arrows the % to parry are different. And did not do a deep test of those at this time.

The rune staff below is +8 deringo. (a staff with eblade on it would cost next to nothing) (test for this posting was 8 of 20 and 10 of 27) using mantis against ball spells

''Sepher gestures at you''.

Sepher hurls a roaring ball of fire at you!

You deflect the bolt with your runestaff!

''Sepher nocks a dull black wooden arrow fletched with white-spotted falcon feathers in his sephwir long bow.'' (10/35 against arrows)

Sepher fires a dull black arrow at you!

You deflect the arrow with your runestaff!

The arrow disappears into the local environs.

Now I certainly do not expect everyone using TWC to invest in runestaves. But please remember that was 7% of the over all total attacks, not the ones that got past wall of thorns or were evaded outright) the runestaff seemed to parry about 11% of the bolts it had a chance to parry. So, if bolts become an issue, it is something to consider since you do have magical training as a semi and have a Bolt Weakness using Two weapons. You could also pick up a shield and train it, but the magical skills you have most likely have already trained in.

==Society==

(Anyone want to toss in pro-cons please do so)

Aurach is a member of Voln. Two Weapons against the many non-critable undead has worked rather well.

==recap==
So, this is my thoughts on two weapon using rangers. I will be adding more as thoughts come to me. I find the capped version to be where my character really came into his own. There seemed to be a non-stop struggle to survive when I was hunting early on. But so much has changed since then. I think a two weapon combat ranger at this point would have great strengths right from the beginning.

John
mind behind Aurach Moonshadew the Gallant, 'two-blader' of Auld Ta'Faendryl

==See Also==
*[[Ranger]] (main article)
*[[A beginner's guide to playing a ranger]]
http://www.play.net/gs4/info/skills.asp#twoweaponcombat
Evade
Parry

==References==
*[http://www.play.net/gs4/info/professions/rangers.asp Ranger profession on Play.net]

{{stub}}
[[Category:Guides]]
[[Category:Ranger]]
[[Category:Professional Guides]]

Aurach's Two Weapon Combat Guide: A Ranger's Perspective

2015-02-19T21:03:13Z

SHEN1: /* The Two Weapon Combat Ranger */

{{Work-in-progress}}

==The Two Weapon Combat Ranger==
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/File:Twcranger.jpg (need to add this in off to side at some point visibly)

==Why two weapons?==

Most ambushing rangers and archers can kill with one well placed strike. So too can the two weapon ambushing ranger, but the world has creatures that cannot be critical struck and only massive raw damage will suffice.

Enter our ranger hero, weapon in each hand, spell at the ready. 'Guts, 'Glory, 'Aspects'

For me the style has always been about using your magics and blades together. This is really not a stand in the open and get beat on type of style. You can do that however. I prefer the use of good timing, and a rather large variety of spells to maneuver your opponents into situations favorable to you.

Your greatest strength is your variety of magics, combat maneuver skills, and weapons combined.

From the skills and stats a Ranger can be a very good two weapon user. Great spirit warding, good variety of spells, low costs to train a variety of skills, some of the best attack spells for a semi, great defensive spells all make for a really versatile and easily adjustable character.

While not recommended to try from early on, this style when combined with ambushing and Multi Opponent Combat is absolutely devastating.

==Ranger Spells==
The ranger spell list provides some unique benefits for TWC rangers, both directly and indirectly.

[[606|Phoen's strength (606)]] gives a phantom increase of +10 to [[Strength|strength]] bonus. Strength is incredibly important to keep RT down (encumbrance really affects the left hand weapon).

[[Mobility (618)]] offers a large bonus to Dodge, a TWC rangers primary defense

[[Camouflage (608)]] a +30 AS bonus from camouflage for multiple attacks. Yes both weapons get the bonus from a ranger leaping to ambush or 'plain attacking' from a camo 608 position, so this can be used by non ambusher for the boost if your quick, so you at least get the +30 AS bonus.

[[Wall of Thorns (640)]] of great assistance to a TWC ranger, the best defense is having the trees block for you and not getting hit at all.

[[650|Assume aspect (650)]] is custom made for a TWC ranger, allowing you to tweak your form to meet the current threat or boost a weakness. (alternating between rat and wolf for example maintains a boost to your agi/dex)

All Rangers also benefit from a plethora of set up spells that can complement any weapon style, such as [[Sounds (607)]], [[610|Tangle weed (610)]] , [[Call Swarm (615)]] and Sunburst (609) (note the effects vs undead)

TWC rangers will find great use in the [[Minor Spiritual]] spell circle, especially [[Spirit Barrier (102)]] and [[106|Spirit fog (106)]], to provide added defenses. Note that 102 gives a penalty to [[Attack strength|AS]] so you could [[STOP (verb)|STOP 102]], which removes the spell so you can attack without the penalty making for a creative low mana Shield/stance dance option, also breeze will eliminate 106, however that is mana intensive.

==Two Weapon Combat Training==
The introduction of Fix skills and Fix Stats, will allows new rangers to tweak their efforts with great ease. I suggest Maintain your core training, finesse skills/Stats as starting Stats have increased and allow you to gain more your training points while boosting over all stat totals. (this is an entire topic all it's own) (word smith this it isn't sounding right)

===Two Weapon Combat Ranger Core Training===

This is your base training that every two weapon ranger should have each level.

*2x (6/4) [[Combat Maneuvers]]:
*2x (3/2) [[Two Weapon Combat]]:
*2x (3/1) [[Edged Weapons]] (Blunt weapons can be used, slightly increased training cost, do not over look this if it appeals to your style of ranger)
*1x (4/0) [[Physical Fitness]]: (2x as soon as points are available, no shield, you will be getting hit, you need this)
*1x (7/5) [[Dodge]]
*1x (0/5) [[Harness Power]]
*1x (0/17) [[Spell Research]]: (May have to skip spells a few levels until training points work out)
*1x (0/3) [[Perception]]: take higher at cap (if you can single, go for it, I think you will be strapped for points: You can skip this when you need to)

Total of (/) (need to check this it is not right)

===TWC Ranger Discreet Training===

These values are plateaus you should strive to reach at some point in your career.

*1x (5/0) [[Armor Use]]: (Aurach's goal was 110 ranks for a chain hauberk and then 170 ranks post cap to reduce maneuver penalties in hauberk)
*5 ranks of [[Multi Opponent Combat]] (10/4) as soon as you can fit it in. (30 ranks allows 2 strikes per weapon on a target, 55 ranks allows you to focus mstrike 3 times per weapon on a single target) Reduces effects of being outnumbered.
*50 Ranks in [[Climbing]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make climb checks prior to that.
*50 Ranks in [[Swimming]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make swim checks prior to that.
*[[Spiritual Lore, Blessings]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after Getting 650
*[[Spiritual Lore, Summoning]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after getting 650
(your 1 rank of these two lores gives slight increases in many of your spells, low training point cost boosts, 5 ranks is Blessing lore is very interesting also as it will allow your 117 spirit strike to have a 3% chance to affect two strikes for you being both weapons)

===Spell Research===

My preferred training order: for a two weapon build
601, 101-103, 602-618, 104-107, 619-650, 108-130, Ranger ranks for life 'Aurach Moonshadew'

(other rangers prefer minor spirit 140 and ranger 162 which provides the best CS)

I prefer to get hues, then 101-103, I like having the low mana shield of 102 with this type of character.
After that Mobility is the goal. Then getting deep blues. Then I would head for Aspect.
This is simply my preference looking back on my build.

===Optional Additional Training===

A list of the most common skills to use your additional training points on.

*1x [[Ambush]] when you can fit the ranks in, 1x at cap (more as you feel the need) (I am singled at cap currently and do very well ambushing)
*2x [[Stalking and Hiding]] – If you plan to ambush at cap you will want to 2x this, post cap
*1x-2x [[Survival]] – This will aid skinning, foraging, and overland movement
*1x-2x [[First Aid]] – This will aid in skinning and reduce herb eating RT
*Spiritual Lore: Blessing and Summoning ranger preference, I think it should be gained after ranger spells are maxed, however 5 ranks of blessing lore will allow a 3% chance to have MS117 affect two strikes low chance but is nice when it happens)
*[[Magic Item Use]] I regret not having this 1x earlier. I did it post cap and love it.
*[[Arcane Symbols]] I regret not having this 1x earlier (immediately after MIU).
*15 ranks [[Spiritual Mana Control]] as soon as you learn it is fun to share and play well with others. 15 ranks is enough to share with most Older Spirit mana using folks (25 ranks post cap if you like).

===Post Cap Goals===

*2x Physical Fitness (immediately at cap or earlier)
*2x [[Combat Maneuvers]] (At cap or earlier)
*2x [[Dodge]] (after maxing ranger spells)
*55 ranks [[Multi-Opponent Combat]] for 6 strikes focused on a single target
[[Thrown Weapons]] may be a very interesting post cap goal, since you will throw both weapons and you already have the required support skill ([[TWC]], [[Perception]], Combat Maneuvers)
Blessing Lore
Summoning Lore

'''[[Combat Maneuver]] skills (mine at cap at moment) Post Cap goals:'''
{|{{prettytable}}
|-style = "background:#DDD; color: blue"
!Skill
!Mnemonic
!Ranks
|-align=center
|[[Cunning Defense]]
|cdefense
|5
|-align=center
|[[Combat Movement]]
|cmovement
|5
|-align=center
|[[Hamstring]]
|hamstring
|5
|-align=center
|[[Disarm Weapon]]
|disarm
|5
|-align=center
|[[Shadow Mastery]]
|smastery
|5
|-align=center
|[[Sweep]]
|sweep
|1
|-align=center
|[[Garrote]]
|garrote
|1
|-align=center
|[[Subdual Strike]]
|sstrike
|1
|}

*TWC rangers will find these useful (order of preference for me was Cdefense, Cmovement, Hamstring, Disarm, Smastery)

This is simply how Aurach trained Combat maneuver skills.

==Race==
I would hope race depends largely on the vision you have for your ranger. That being said, Agility and Dexterity are very important to reduce RT. A race that has strength and can manage encumbrance would also be wise.

==What Armor to use?==
The best armor you can afford.

My advice is Double leather, then Brigandine, then hauberk, for Full body coverage. I like the full body coverage as it allows me to wear arm/leg greaves, helm, and aventails, if I choose with no added penalties. I kept my eye out for enhancives on the added armor pieces. Padding crit or damage is always a good choice if you can afford it.

My cap armor is an imflass chain hauberk, with added helm, arm and leg greaves and aventail, it has 11% hinderance. I find the failure acceptable to my style. Some will not. A paladin for fluidity would be fantastic. I also kept training armor to reduce maneuver penalties. Armor skill is also a secondary skill for redux so serves some double duty.

==Keeping your RT manageable==

You will find the links below for Agi/Dex and Two weapon combat RT. The RT is probably the most confusing part of using two weapons. I say this because from time to time, it does not match the documents. Weapon weights, base speed, Agi/Dex, encumberance, and Character strength all affect your RT. (Assume Aspect, Phoen's Strength, Enhancive items, and Wizard strength will be the greatest help here)

To really enjoy and work the two weapon using ranger. You will need to test various combinations of weapons. Early on you might try short sword and gauche for the gauches added DS when used in off hand. Later on perhaps a long sword/short sword when you want to hit harder and keep RT manageable. Too many weapons to list.

==A Rangers Weapon Sets==
There are many weapons to try. Your ranger will have two or possibly three different sets as he heads out on patrol at certain points in thier career. This is where you get to show your rangers individuality.

My carry weapons at cap are: longsword/shortsword set, two hand axe set, and a dagger set. This is not based on min maxing, it is more a collection of style, effectiveness vs heavy armor, and a couple speed weapons for when encumbered by heaps of treasure and skins.

Do not forget to look at blunt weapons if that is more appealing to you.

I can say, that this will be fun. Try all kinds of cheap sets of weapons to get what feels right.
This will evolve as Stats increase, better enhancive items are acquired, and weapon choice vs armor types are considered

So, what feels right now, may change at various training stages and against different types of armor types (critters).

Feras weapons, Flares, Ensorcellment, Weighting (crit and damage) can all boost your effectiveness. You hit twice as often and good combinations of the previous can add great advantages to your ranger.

https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Edged_Weapons
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Roundtime
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat

==TWC Defenses==

'All about that AS that AS , no defense, it's all about the AS'

Ok, so seriously, defenses as a two weapon using ranger. As usual we have some good options available.

'''TWC Parry DS:''' https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat
I cannot explain it better than is listed.

'''Stances:''' No really there are stances other than OFF and DEF. A good understanding of how you can adjust your stance to maintain adequate defense for the current threat and still provide you with enough offensive punch to down your enemies will really help. Your ranger spells have a great variety to help you to do this.

'''TWC Out Right Parry:''' each weapon will provide a 5% chance to parry incoming melee attacks against like level foes in stance offensive (https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Parry) Assume Aspect:Mantis aids nicely with both weapons chances to parry.

'''Bolt Defenses''': Two Weapon Combat style does not offer good bolt defenses (no shield). So, as a ranger we adapt. The ranger spell list and minor spell list will provide a great amount of assistance to our Bolt DS. I would like to focus on those that you can use to finesse things and make your twc ranger even more protected. Minor Spirit Air wall 102, and Fog 106 can be used as well as seeking areas when hunting that provide natural defenses. Your wall of thorns blocking incoming attacks,(later boosted by Aspect Porcupine), and Evasion/dodge (boosted by serpent) however will all aid you greatly. ''Assume Aspect Mantis with a runestaff will parry bolts/arrows as well. (test it)'' Rotating aspects when mana is not the main issue.

'''NOTE: The following Runestaff comments are for much later down the line but am tossing it in here for reference''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying Bolts and arrows. Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This would require a runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider. Test it out if you find the need for more bolt defenses beyond what you get from Wall of Thorns or out right evasion.

'''Evade''' Can be boosted by your Aspect Serpent, I saw a really significant increase here from 21% to 40%.

==runestaff test==
'''NOTE''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying bolts spells, ball spells, and arrows. Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This Would require runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider. Test it out.

An 800 attack test with the mage Drafix's assistance has shown my ranger's wall of thorns stopped about 21% of incoming bolt attacks. 24% were then outright evaded (wearing my hauberk or not wearing it was the same due to armor over training), (this increased to 40% evaded with Aspect Serpent running) and then after that 7% were blocked by the runestaff. Giving an over all total of 51%+ to 67% stopped/evaded/parried.

Also, the % was based on bolt spell by like level caster. I believe the Ball spells and Arrows the % to parry are different. And did not do a deep test of those at this time.

The rune staff below is +8 deringo. (a staff with eblade on it would cost next to nothing) (test for this posting was 8 of 20 and 10 of 27) using mantis against ball spells

''Sepher gestures at you''.

Sepher hurls a roaring ball of fire at you!

You deflect the bolt with your runestaff!

''Sepher nocks a dull black wooden arrow fletched with white-spotted falcon feathers in his sephwir long bow.'' (10/35 against arrows)

Sepher fires a dull black arrow at you!

You deflect the arrow with your runestaff!

The arrow disappears into the local environs.

Now I certainly do not expect everyone using TWC to invest in runestaves. But please remember that was 7% of the over all total attacks, not the ones that got past wall of thorns or were evaded outright) the runestaff seemed to parry about 11% of the bolts it had a chance to parry. So, if bolts become an issue, it is something to consider since you do have magical training as a semi and have a Bolt Weakness using Two weapons. You could also pick up a shield and train it, but the magical skills you have most likely have already trained in.

==Society==

(Anyone want to toss in pro-cons please do so)

Aurach is a member of Voln. Two Weapons against the many non-critable undead has worked rather well.

==recap==
So, this is my thoughts on two weapon using rangers. I will be adding more as thoughts come to me. I find the capped version to be where my character really came into his own. There seemed to be a non-stop struggle to survive when I was hunting early on. But so much has changed since then. I think a two weapon combat ranger at this point would have great strengths right from the beginning.

John
mind behind Aurach Moonshadew the Gallant, 'two-blader' of Auld Ta'Faendryl

==See Also==
*[[Ranger]] (main article)
*[[A beginner's guide to playing a ranger]]
http://www.play.net/gs4/info/skills.asp#twoweaponcombat
Evade
Parry

==References==
*[http://www.play.net/gs4/info/professions/rangers.asp Ranger profession on Play.net]

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Aurach's Two Weapon Combat Guide: A Ranger's Perspective

2015-02-19T21:01:46Z

SHEN1: /* The Two Weapon Combat Ranger */

{{Work-in-progress}}

==The Two Weapon Combat Ranger==
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/File:Twcranger.jpg (need to add this in off to side at some point visibly)

The whirling scimitars of Drizzsdt Do'Urden, The 'charge to rescue' in Last of the Mohican's using Hatchet and knife, Lancelot's dual short swords in King Arthur, all bring the vision of our champion, the Two Weapon Combat Ranger. A challenging training path, with strong reliance on attack and speed.

==Why two weapons?==

Most ambushing rangers and archers can kill with one well placed strike. So too can the two weapon ambushing ranger, but the world has creatures that cannot be critical struck and only massive raw damage will suffice.

Enter our ranger hero, weapon in each hand, spell at the ready. 'Guts, 'Glory, 'Aspects'

For me the style has always been about using your magics and blades together. This is really not a stand in the open and get beat on type of style. You can do that however. I prefer the use of good timing, and a rather large variety of spells to maneuver your opponents into situations favorable to you.

Your greatest strength is your variety of magics, combat maneuver skills, and weapons combined.

From the skills and stats a Ranger can be a very good two weapon user. Great spirit warding, good variety of spells, low costs to train a variety of skills, some of the best attack spells for a semi, great defensive spells all make for a really versatile and easily adjustable character.

While not recommended to try from early on, this style when combined with ambushing and Multi Opponent Combat is absolutely devastating.

==Ranger Spells==
The ranger spell list provides some unique benefits for TWC rangers, both directly and indirectly.

[[606|Phoen's strength (606)]] gives a phantom increase of +10 to [[Strength|strength]] bonus. Strength is incredibly important to keep RT down (encumbrance really affects the left hand weapon).

[[Mobility (618)]] offers a large bonus to Dodge, a TWC rangers primary defense

[[Camouflage (608)]] a +30 AS bonus from camouflage for multiple attacks. Yes both weapons get the bonus from a ranger leaping to ambush or 'plain attacking' from a camo 608 position, so this can be used by non ambusher for the boost if your quick, so you at least get the +30 AS bonus.

[[Wall of Thorns (640)]] of great assistance to a TWC ranger, the best defense is having the trees block for you and not getting hit at all.

[[650|Assume aspect (650)]] is custom made for a TWC ranger, allowing you to tweak your form to meet the current threat or boost a weakness. (alternating between rat and wolf for example maintains a boost to your agi/dex)

All Rangers also benefit from a plethora of set up spells that can complement any weapon style, such as [[Sounds (607)]], [[610|Tangle weed (610)]] , [[Call Swarm (615)]] and Sunburst (609) (note the effects vs undead)

TWC rangers will find great use in the [[Minor Spiritual]] spell circle, especially [[Spirit Barrier (102)]] and [[106|Spirit fog (106)]], to provide added defenses. Note that 102 gives a penalty to [[Attack strength|AS]] so you could [[STOP (verb)|STOP 102]], which removes the spell so you can attack without the penalty making for a creative low mana Shield/stance dance option, also breeze will eliminate 106, however that is mana intensive.

==Two Weapon Combat Training==
The introduction of Fix skills and Fix Stats, will allows new rangers to tweak their efforts with great ease. I suggest Maintain your core training, finesse skills/Stats as starting Stats have increased and allow you to gain more your training points while boosting over all stat totals. (this is an entire topic all it's own) (word smith this it isn't sounding right)

===Two Weapon Combat Ranger Core Training===

This is your base training that every two weapon ranger should have each level.

*2x (6/4) [[Combat Maneuvers]]:
*2x (3/2) [[Two Weapon Combat]]:
*2x (3/1) [[Edged Weapons]] (Blunt weapons can be used, slightly increased training cost, do not over look this if it appeals to your style of ranger)
*1x (4/0) [[Physical Fitness]]: (2x as soon as points are available, no shield, you will be getting hit, you need this)
*1x (7/5) [[Dodge]]
*1x (0/5) [[Harness Power]]
*1x (0/17) [[Spell Research]]: (May have to skip spells a few levels until training points work out)
*1x (0/3) [[Perception]]: take higher at cap (if you can single, go for it, I think you will be strapped for points: You can skip this when you need to)

Total of (/) (need to check this it is not right)

===TWC Ranger Discreet Training===

These values are plateaus you should strive to reach at some point in your career.

*1x (5/0) [[Armor Use]]: (Aurach's goal was 110 ranks for a chain hauberk and then 170 ranks post cap to reduce maneuver penalties in hauberk)
*5 ranks of [[Multi Opponent Combat]] (10/4) as soon as you can fit it in. (30 ranks allows 2 strikes per weapon on a target, 55 ranks allows you to focus mstrike 3 times per weapon on a single target) Reduces effects of being outnumbered.
*50 Ranks in [[Climbing]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make climb checks prior to that.
*50 Ranks in [[Swimming]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make swim checks prior to that.
*[[Spiritual Lore, Blessings]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after Getting 650
*[[Spiritual Lore, Summoning]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after getting 650
(your 1 rank of these two lores gives slight increases in many of your spells, low training point cost boosts, 5 ranks is Blessing lore is very interesting also as it will allow your 117 spirit strike to have a 3% chance to affect two strikes for you being both weapons)

===Spell Research===

My preferred training order: for a two weapon build
601, 101-103, 602-618, 104-107, 619-650, 108-130, Ranger ranks for life 'Aurach Moonshadew'

(other rangers prefer minor spirit 140 and ranger 162 which provides the best CS)

I prefer to get hues, then 101-103, I like having the low mana shield of 102 with this type of character.
After that Mobility is the goal. Then getting deep blues. Then I would head for Aspect.
This is simply my preference looking back on my build.

===Optional Additional Training===

A list of the most common skills to use your additional training points on.

*1x [[Ambush]] when you can fit the ranks in, 1x at cap (more as you feel the need) (I am singled at cap currently and do very well ambushing)
*2x [[Stalking and Hiding]] – If you plan to ambush at cap you will want to 2x this, post cap
*1x-2x [[Survival]] – This will aid skinning, foraging, and overland movement
*1x-2x [[First Aid]] – This will aid in skinning and reduce herb eating RT
*Spiritual Lore: Blessing and Summoning ranger preference, I think it should be gained after ranger spells are maxed, however 5 ranks of blessing lore will allow a 3% chance to have MS117 affect two strikes low chance but is nice when it happens)
*[[Magic Item Use]] I regret not having this 1x earlier. I did it post cap and love it.
*[[Arcane Symbols]] I regret not having this 1x earlier (immediately after MIU).
*15 ranks [[Spiritual Mana Control]] as soon as you learn it is fun to share and play well with others. 15 ranks is enough to share with most Older Spirit mana using folks (25 ranks post cap if you like).

===Post Cap Goals===

*2x Physical Fitness (immediately at cap or earlier)
*2x [[Combat Maneuvers]] (At cap or earlier)
*2x [[Dodge]] (after maxing ranger spells)
*55 ranks [[Multi-Opponent Combat]] for 6 strikes focused on a single target
[[Thrown Weapons]] may be a very interesting post cap goal, since you will throw both weapons and you already have the required support skill ([[TWC]], [[Perception]], Combat Maneuvers)
Blessing Lore
Summoning Lore

'''[[Combat Maneuver]] skills (mine at cap at moment) Post Cap goals:'''
{|{{prettytable}}
|-style = "background:#DDD; color: blue"
!Skill
!Mnemonic
!Ranks
|-align=center
|[[Cunning Defense]]
|cdefense
|5
|-align=center
|[[Combat Movement]]
|cmovement
|5
|-align=center
|[[Hamstring]]
|hamstring
|5
|-align=center
|[[Disarm Weapon]]
|disarm
|5
|-align=center
|[[Shadow Mastery]]
|smastery
|5
|-align=center
|[[Sweep]]
|sweep
|1
|-align=center
|[[Garrote]]
|garrote
|1
|-align=center
|[[Subdual Strike]]
|sstrike
|1
|}

*TWC rangers will find these useful (order of preference for me was Cdefense, Cmovement, Hamstring, Disarm, Smastery)

This is simply how Aurach trained Combat maneuver skills.

==Race==
I would hope race depends largely on the vision you have for your ranger. That being said, Agility and Dexterity are very important to reduce RT. A race that has strength and can manage encumbrance would also be wise.

==What Armor to use?==
The best armor you can afford.

My advice is Double leather, then Brigandine, then hauberk, for Full body coverage. I like the full body coverage as it allows me to wear arm/leg greaves, helm, and aventails, if I choose with no added penalties. I kept my eye out for enhancives on the added armor pieces. Padding crit or damage is always a good choice if you can afford it.

My cap armor is an imflass chain hauberk, with added helm, arm and leg greaves and aventail, it has 11% hinderance. I find the failure acceptable to my style. Some will not. A paladin for fluidity would be fantastic. I also kept training armor to reduce maneuver penalties. Armor skill is also a secondary skill for redux so serves some double duty.

==Keeping your RT manageable==

You will find the links below for Agi/Dex and Two weapon combat RT. The RT is probably the most confusing part of using two weapons. I say this because from time to time, it does not match the documents. Weapon weights, base speed, Agi/Dex, encumberance, and Character strength all affect your RT. (Assume Aspect, Phoen's Strength, Enhancive items, and Wizard strength will be the greatest help here)

To really enjoy and work the two weapon using ranger. You will need to test various combinations of weapons. Early on you might try short sword and gauche for the gauches added DS when used in off hand. Later on perhaps a long sword/short sword when you want to hit harder and keep RT manageable. Too many weapons to list.

==A Rangers Weapon Sets==
There are many weapons to try. Your ranger will have two or possibly three different sets as he heads out on patrol at certain points in thier career. This is where you get to show your rangers individuality.

My carry weapons at cap are: longsword/shortsword set, two hand axe set, and a dagger set. This is not based on min maxing, it is more a collection of style, effectiveness vs heavy armor, and a couple speed weapons for when encumbered by heaps of treasure and skins.

Do not forget to look at blunt weapons if that is more appealing to you.

I can say, that this will be fun. Try all kinds of cheap sets of weapons to get what feels right.
This will evolve as Stats increase, better enhancive items are acquired, and weapon choice vs armor types are considered

So, what feels right now, may change at various training stages and against different types of armor types (critters).

Feras weapons, Flares, Ensorcellment, Weighting (crit and damage) can all boost your effectiveness. You hit twice as often and good combinations of the previous can add great advantages to your ranger.

https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Edged_Weapons
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Roundtime
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat

==TWC Defenses==

'All about that AS that AS , no defense, it's all about the AS'

Ok, so seriously, defenses as a two weapon using ranger. As usual we have some good options available.

'''TWC Parry DS:''' https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat
I cannot explain it better than is listed.

'''Stances:''' No really there are stances other than OFF and DEF. A good understanding of how you can adjust your stance to maintain adequate defense for the current threat and still provide you with enough offensive punch to down your enemies will really help. Your ranger spells have a great variety to help you to do this.

'''TWC Out Right Parry:''' each weapon will provide a 5% chance to parry incoming melee attacks against like level foes in stance offensive (https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Parry) Assume Aspect:Mantis aids nicely with both weapons chances to parry.

'''Bolt Defenses''': Two Weapon Combat style does not offer good bolt defenses (no shield). So, as a ranger we adapt. The ranger spell list and minor spell list will provide a great amount of assistance to our Bolt DS. I would like to focus on those that you can use to finesse things and make your twc ranger even more protected. Minor Spirit Air wall 102, and Fog 106 can be used as well as seeking areas when hunting that provide natural defenses. Your wall of thorns blocking incoming attacks,(later boosted by Aspect Porcupine), and Evasion/dodge (boosted by serpent) however will all aid you greatly. ''Assume Aspect Mantis with a runestaff will parry bolts/arrows as well. (test it)'' Rotating aspects when mana is not the main issue.

'''NOTE: The following Runestaff comments are for much later down the line but am tossing it in here for reference''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying Bolts and arrows. Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This would require a runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider. Test it out if you find the need for more bolt defenses beyond what you get from Wall of Thorns or out right evasion.

'''Evade''' Can be boosted by your Aspect Serpent, I saw a really significant increase here from 21% to 40%.

==runestaff test==
'''NOTE''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying bolts spells, ball spells, and arrows. Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This Would require runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider. Test it out.

An 800 attack test with the mage Drafix's assistance has shown my ranger's wall of thorns stopped about 21% of incoming bolt attacks. 24% were then outright evaded (wearing my hauberk or not wearing it was the same due to armor over training), (this increased to 40% evaded with Aspect Serpent running) and then after that 7% were blocked by the runestaff. Giving an over all total of 51%+ to 67% stopped/evaded/parried.

Also, the % was based on bolt spell by like level caster. I believe the Ball spells and Arrows the % to parry are different. And did not do a deep test of those at this time.

The rune staff below is +8 deringo. (a staff with eblade on it would cost next to nothing) (test for this posting was 8 of 20 and 10 of 27) using mantis against ball spells

''Sepher gestures at you''.

Sepher hurls a roaring ball of fire at you!

You deflect the bolt with your runestaff!

''Sepher nocks a dull black wooden arrow fletched with white-spotted falcon feathers in his sephwir long bow.'' (10/35 against arrows)

Sepher fires a dull black arrow at you!

You deflect the arrow with your runestaff!

The arrow disappears into the local environs.

Now I certainly do not expect everyone using TWC to invest in runestaves. But please remember that was 7% of the over all total attacks, not the ones that got past wall of thorns or were evaded outright) the runestaff seemed to parry about 11% of the bolts it had a chance to parry. So, if bolts become an issue, it is something to consider since you do have magical training as a semi and have a Bolt Weakness using Two weapons. You could also pick up a shield and train it, but the magical skills you have most likely have already trained in.

==Society==

(Anyone want to toss in pro-cons please do so)

Aurach is a member of Voln. Two Weapons against the many non-critable undead has worked rather well.

==recap==
So, this is my thoughts on two weapon using rangers. I will be adding more as thoughts come to me. I find the capped version to be where my character really came into his own. There seemed to be a non-stop struggle to survive when I was hunting early on. But so much has changed since then. I think a two weapon combat ranger at this point would have great strengths right from the beginning.

John
mind behind Aurach Moonshadew the Gallant, 'two-blader' of Auld Ta'Faendryl

==See Also==
*[[Ranger]] (main article)
*[[A beginner's guide to playing a ranger]]
http://www.play.net/gs4/info/skills.asp#twoweaponcombat
Evade
Parry

==References==
*[http://www.play.net/gs4/info/professions/rangers.asp Ranger profession on Play.net]

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[[Category:Guides]]
[[Category:Ranger]]
[[Category:Professional Guides]]

Aurach's Two Weapon Combat Guide: A Ranger's Perspective

2015-02-19T20:59:23Z

SHEN1: /* recap */

{{Work-in-progress}}

==The Two Weapon Combat Ranger==
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/File:Twcranger.jpg (need to add this in off to side at some point visibly)

Observations on the style

==Why two weapons?==

Most ambushing rangers and archers can kill with one well placed strike. So too can the two weapon ambushing ranger, but the world has creatures that cannot be critical struck and only massive raw damage will suffice.

Enter our ranger hero, weapon in each hand, spell at the ready. 'Guts, 'Glory, 'Aspects'

For me the style has always been about using your magics and blades together. This is really not a stand in the open and get beat on type of style. You can do that however. I prefer the use of good timing, and a rather large variety of spells to maneuver your opponents into situations favorable to you.

Your greatest strength is your variety of magics, combat maneuver skills, and weapons combined.

From the skills and stats a Ranger can be a very good two weapon user. Great spirit warding, good variety of spells, low costs to train a variety of skills, some of the best attack spells for a semi, great defensive spells all make for a really versatile and easily adjustable character.

While not recommended to try from early on, this style when combined with ambushing and Multi Opponent Combat is absolutely devastating.

==Ranger Spells==
The ranger spell list provides some unique benefits for TWC rangers, both directly and indirectly.

[[606|Phoen's strength (606)]] gives a phantom increase of +10 to [[Strength|strength]] bonus. Strength is incredibly important to keep RT down (encumbrance really affects the left hand weapon).

[[Mobility (618)]] offers a large bonus to Dodge, a TWC rangers primary defense

[[Camouflage (608)]] a +30 AS bonus from camouflage for multiple attacks. Yes both weapons get the bonus from a ranger leaping to ambush or 'plain attacking' from a camo 608 position, so this can be used by non ambusher for the boost if your quick, so you at least get the +30 AS bonus.

[[Wall of Thorns (640)]] of great assistance to a TWC ranger, the best defense is having the trees block for you and not getting hit at all.

[[650|Assume aspect (650)]] is custom made for a TWC ranger, allowing you to tweak your form to meet the current threat or boost a weakness. (alternating between rat and wolf for example maintains a boost to your agi/dex)

All Rangers also benefit from a plethora of set up spells that can complement any weapon style, such as [[Sounds (607)]], [[610|Tangle weed (610)]] , [[Call Swarm (615)]] and Sunburst (609) (note the effects vs undead)

TWC rangers will find great use in the [[Minor Spiritual]] spell circle, especially [[Spirit Barrier (102)]] and [[106|Spirit fog (106)]], to provide added defenses. Note that 102 gives a penalty to [[Attack strength|AS]] so you could [[STOP (verb)|STOP 102]], which removes the spell so you can attack without the penalty making for a creative low mana Shield/stance dance option, also breeze will eliminate 106, however that is mana intensive.

==Two Weapon Combat Training==
The introduction of Fix skills and Fix Stats, will allows new rangers to tweak their efforts with great ease. I suggest Maintain your core training, finesse skills/Stats as starting Stats have increased and allow you to gain more your training points while boosting over all stat totals. (this is an entire topic all it's own) (word smith this it isn't sounding right)

===Two Weapon Combat Ranger Core Training===

This is your base training that every two weapon ranger should have each level.

*2x (6/4) [[Combat Maneuvers]]:
*2x (3/2) [[Two Weapon Combat]]:
*2x (3/1) [[Edged Weapons]] (Blunt weapons can be used, slightly increased training cost, do not over look this if it appeals to your style of ranger)
*1x (4/0) [[Physical Fitness]]: (2x as soon as points are available, no shield, you will be getting hit, you need this)
*1x (7/5) [[Dodge]]
*1x (0/5) [[Harness Power]]
*1x (0/17) [[Spell Research]]: (May have to skip spells a few levels until training points work out)
*1x (0/3) [[Perception]]: take higher at cap (if you can single, go for it, I think you will be strapped for points: You can skip this when you need to)

Total of (/) (need to check this it is not right)

===TWC Ranger Discreet Training===

These values are plateaus you should strive to reach at some point in your career.

*1x (5/0) [[Armor Use]]: (Aurach's goal was 110 ranks for a chain hauberk and then 170 ranks post cap to reduce maneuver penalties in hauberk)
*5 ranks of [[Multi Opponent Combat]] (10/4) as soon as you can fit it in. (30 ranks allows 2 strikes per weapon on a target, 55 ranks allows you to focus mstrike 3 times per weapon on a single target) Reduces effects of being outnumbered.
*50 Ranks in [[Climbing]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make climb checks prior to that.
*50 Ranks in [[Swimming]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make swim checks prior to that.
*[[Spiritual Lore, Blessings]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after Getting 650
*[[Spiritual Lore, Summoning]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after getting 650
(your 1 rank of these two lores gives slight increases in many of your spells, low training point cost boosts, 5 ranks is Blessing lore is very interesting also as it will allow your 117 spirit strike to have a 3% chance to affect two strikes for you being both weapons)

===Spell Research===

My preferred training order: for a two weapon build
601, 101-103, 602-618, 104-107, 619-650, 108-130, Ranger ranks for life 'Aurach Moonshadew'

(other rangers prefer minor spirit 140 and ranger 162 which provides the best CS)

I prefer to get hues, then 101-103, I like having the low mana shield of 102 with this type of character.
After that Mobility is the goal. Then getting deep blues. Then I would head for Aspect.
This is simply my preference looking back on my build.

===Optional Additional Training===

A list of the most common skills to use your additional training points on.

*1x [[Ambush]] when you can fit the ranks in, 1x at cap (more as you feel the need) (I am singled at cap currently and do very well ambushing)
*2x [[Stalking and Hiding]] – If you plan to ambush at cap you will want to 2x this, post cap
*1x-2x [[Survival]] – This will aid skinning, foraging, and overland movement
*1x-2x [[First Aid]] – This will aid in skinning and reduce herb eating RT
*Spiritual Lore: Blessing and Summoning ranger preference, I think it should be gained after ranger spells are maxed, however 5 ranks of blessing lore will allow a 3% chance to have MS117 affect two strikes low chance but is nice when it happens)
*[[Magic Item Use]] I regret not having this 1x earlier. I did it post cap and love it.
*[[Arcane Symbols]] I regret not having this 1x earlier (immediately after MIU).
*15 ranks [[Spiritual Mana Control]] as soon as you learn it is fun to share and play well with others. 15 ranks is enough to share with most Older Spirit mana using folks (25 ranks post cap if you like).

===Post Cap Goals===

*2x Physical Fitness (immediately at cap or earlier)
*2x [[Combat Maneuvers]] (At cap or earlier)
*2x [[Dodge]] (after maxing ranger spells)
*55 ranks [[Multi-Opponent Combat]] for 6 strikes focused on a single target
[[Thrown Weapons]] may be a very interesting post cap goal, since you will throw both weapons and you already have the required support skill ([[TWC]], [[Perception]], Combat Maneuvers)
Blessing Lore
Summoning Lore

'''[[Combat Maneuver]] skills (mine at cap at moment) Post Cap goals:'''
{|{{prettytable}}
|-style = "background:#DDD; color: blue"
!Skill
!Mnemonic
!Ranks
|-align=center
|[[Cunning Defense]]
|cdefense
|5
|-align=center
|[[Combat Movement]]
|cmovement
|5
|-align=center
|[[Hamstring]]
|hamstring
|5
|-align=center
|[[Disarm Weapon]]
|disarm
|5
|-align=center
|[[Shadow Mastery]]
|smastery
|5
|-align=center
|[[Sweep]]
|sweep
|1
|-align=center
|[[Garrote]]
|garrote
|1
|-align=center
|[[Subdual Strike]]
|sstrike
|1
|}

*TWC rangers will find these useful (order of preference for me was Cdefense, Cmovement, Hamstring, Disarm, Smastery)

This is simply how Aurach trained Combat maneuver skills.

==Race==
I would hope race depends largely on the vision you have for your ranger. That being said, Agility and Dexterity are very important to reduce RT. A race that has strength and can manage encumbrance would also be wise.

==What Armor to use?==
The best armor you can afford.

My advice is Double leather, then Brigandine, then hauberk, for Full body coverage. I like the full body coverage as it allows me to wear arm/leg greaves, helm, and aventails, if I choose with no added penalties. I kept my eye out for enhancives on the added armor pieces. Padding crit or damage is always a good choice if you can afford it.

My cap armor is an imflass chain hauberk, with added helm, arm and leg greaves and aventail, it has 11% hinderance. I find the failure acceptable to my style. Some will not. A paladin for fluidity would be fantastic. I also kept training armor to reduce maneuver penalties. Armor skill is also a secondary skill for redux so serves some double duty.

==Keeping your RT manageable==

You will find the links below for Agi/Dex and Two weapon combat RT. The RT is probably the most confusing part of using two weapons. I say this because from time to time, it does not match the documents. Weapon weights, base speed, Agi/Dex, encumberance, and Character strength all affect your RT. (Assume Aspect, Phoen's Strength, Enhancive items, and Wizard strength will be the greatest help here)

To really enjoy and work the two weapon using ranger. You will need to test various combinations of weapons. Early on you might try short sword and gauche for the gauches added DS when used in off hand. Later on perhaps a long sword/short sword when you want to hit harder and keep RT manageable. Too many weapons to list.

==A Rangers Weapon Sets==
There are many weapons to try. Your ranger will have two or possibly three different sets as he heads out on patrol at certain points in thier career. This is where you get to show your rangers individuality.

My carry weapons at cap are: longsword/shortsword set, two hand axe set, and a dagger set. This is not based on min maxing, it is more a collection of style, effectiveness vs heavy armor, and a couple speed weapons for when encumbered by heaps of treasure and skins.

Do not forget to look at blunt weapons if that is more appealing to you.

I can say, that this will be fun. Try all kinds of cheap sets of weapons to get what feels right.
This will evolve as Stats increase, better enhancive items are acquired, and weapon choice vs armor types are considered

So, what feels right now, may change at various training stages and against different types of armor types (critters).

Feras weapons, Flares, Ensorcellment, Weighting (crit and damage) can all boost your effectiveness. You hit twice as often and good combinations of the previous can add great advantages to your ranger.

https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Edged_Weapons
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Roundtime
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat

==TWC Defenses==

'All about that AS that AS , no defense, it's all about the AS'

Ok, so seriously, defenses as a two weapon using ranger. As usual we have some good options available.

'''TWC Parry DS:''' https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat
I cannot explain it better than is listed.

'''Stances:''' No really there are stances other than OFF and DEF. A good understanding of how you can adjust your stance to maintain adequate defense for the current threat and still provide you with enough offensive punch to down your enemies will really help. Your ranger spells have a great variety to help you to do this.

'''TWC Out Right Parry:''' each weapon will provide a 5% chance to parry incoming melee attacks against like level foes in stance offensive (https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Parry) Assume Aspect:Mantis aids nicely with both weapons chances to parry.

'''Bolt Defenses''': Two Weapon Combat style does not offer good bolt defenses (no shield). So, as a ranger we adapt. The ranger spell list and minor spell list will provide a great amount of assistance to our Bolt DS. I would like to focus on those that you can use to finesse things and make your twc ranger even more protected. Minor Spirit Air wall 102, and Fog 106 can be used as well as seeking areas when hunting that provide natural defenses. Your wall of thorns blocking incoming attacks,(later boosted by Aspect Porcupine), and Evasion/dodge (boosted by serpent) however will all aid you greatly. ''Assume Aspect Mantis with a runestaff will parry bolts/arrows as well. (test it)'' Rotating aspects when mana is not the main issue.

'''NOTE: The following Runestaff comments are for much later down the line but am tossing it in here for reference''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying Bolts and arrows. Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This would require a runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider. Test it out if you find the need for more bolt defenses beyond what you get from Wall of Thorns or out right evasion.

'''Evade''' Can be boosted by your Aspect Serpent, I saw a really significant increase here from 21% to 40%.

==runestaff test==
'''NOTE''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying bolts spells, ball spells, and arrows. Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This Would require runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider. Test it out.

An 800 attack test with the mage Drafix's assistance has shown my ranger's wall of thorns stopped about 21% of incoming bolt attacks. 24% were then outright evaded (wearing my hauberk or not wearing it was the same due to armor over training), (this increased to 40% evaded with Aspect Serpent running) and then after that 7% were blocked by the runestaff. Giving an over all total of 51%+ to 67% stopped/evaded/parried.

Also, the % was based on bolt spell by like level caster. I believe the Ball spells and Arrows the % to parry are different. And did not do a deep test of those at this time.

The rune staff below is +8 deringo. (a staff with eblade on it would cost next to nothing) (test for this posting was 8 of 20 and 10 of 27) using mantis against ball spells

''Sepher gestures at you''.

Sepher hurls a roaring ball of fire at you!

You deflect the bolt with your runestaff!

''Sepher nocks a dull black wooden arrow fletched with white-spotted falcon feathers in his sephwir long bow.'' (10/35 against arrows)

Sepher fires a dull black arrow at you!

You deflect the arrow with your runestaff!

The arrow disappears into the local environs.

Now I certainly do not expect everyone using TWC to invest in runestaves. But please remember that was 7% of the over all total attacks, not the ones that got past wall of thorns or were evaded outright) the runestaff seemed to parry about 11% of the bolts it had a chance to parry. So, if bolts become an issue, it is something to consider since you do have magical training as a semi and have a Bolt Weakness using Two weapons. You could also pick up a shield and train it, but the magical skills you have most likely have already trained in.

==Society==

(Anyone want to toss in pro-cons please do so)

Aurach is a member of Voln. Two Weapons against the many non-critable undead has worked rather well.

==recap==
So, this is my thoughts on two weapon using rangers. I will be adding more as thoughts come to me. I find the capped version to be where my character really came into his own. There seemed to be a non-stop struggle to survive when I was hunting early on. But so much has changed since then. I think a two weapon combat ranger at this point would have great strengths right from the beginning.

John
mind behind Aurach Moonshadew the Gallant, 'two-blader' of Auld Ta'Faendryl

==See Also==
*[[Ranger]] (main article)
*[[A beginner's guide to playing a ranger]]
http://www.play.net/gs4/info/skills.asp#twoweaponcombat
Evade
Parry

==References==
*[http://www.play.net/gs4/info/professions/rangers.asp Ranger profession on Play.net]

{{stub}}
[[Category:Guides]]
[[Category:Ranger]]
[[Category:Professional Guides]]

Aurach's Two Weapon Combat Guide: A Ranger's Perspective

2015-02-19T20:55:27Z

SHEN1: /* Society */

{{Work-in-progress}}

==The Two Weapon Combat Ranger==
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/File:Twcranger.jpg (need to add this in off to side at some point visibly)

Observations on the style

==Why two weapons?==

Most ambushing rangers and archers can kill with one well placed strike. So too can the two weapon ambushing ranger, but the world has creatures that cannot be critical struck and only massive raw damage will suffice.

Enter our ranger hero, weapon in each hand, spell at the ready. 'Guts, 'Glory, 'Aspects'

For me the style has always been about using your magics and blades together. This is really not a stand in the open and get beat on type of style. You can do that however. I prefer the use of good timing, and a rather large variety of spells to maneuver your opponents into situations favorable to you.

Your greatest strength is your variety of magics, combat maneuver skills, and weapons combined.

From the skills and stats a Ranger can be a very good two weapon user. Great spirit warding, good variety of spells, low costs to train a variety of skills, some of the best attack spells for a semi, great defensive spells all make for a really versatile and easily adjustable character.

While not recommended to try from early on, this style when combined with ambushing and Multi Opponent Combat is absolutely devastating.

==Ranger Spells==
The ranger spell list provides some unique benefits for TWC rangers, both directly and indirectly.

[[606|Phoen's strength (606)]] gives a phantom increase of +10 to [[Strength|strength]] bonus. Strength is incredibly important to keep RT down (encumbrance really affects the left hand weapon).

[[Mobility (618)]] offers a large bonus to Dodge, a TWC rangers primary defense

[[Camouflage (608)]] a +30 AS bonus from camouflage for multiple attacks. Yes both weapons get the bonus from a ranger leaping to ambush or 'plain attacking' from a camo 608 position, so this can be used by non ambusher for the boost if your quick, so you at least get the +30 AS bonus.

[[Wall of Thorns (640)]] of great assistance to a TWC ranger, the best defense is having the trees block for you and not getting hit at all.

[[650|Assume aspect (650)]] is custom made for a TWC ranger, allowing you to tweak your form to meet the current threat or boost a weakness. (alternating between rat and wolf for example maintains a boost to your agi/dex)

All Rangers also benefit from a plethora of set up spells that can complement any weapon style, such as [[Sounds (607)]], [[610|Tangle weed (610)]] , [[Call Swarm (615)]] and Sunburst (609) (note the effects vs undead)

TWC rangers will find great use in the [[Minor Spiritual]] spell circle, especially [[Spirit Barrier (102)]] and [[106|Spirit fog (106)]], to provide added defenses. Note that 102 gives a penalty to [[Attack strength|AS]] so you could [[STOP (verb)|STOP 102]], which removes the spell so you can attack without the penalty making for a creative low mana Shield/stance dance option, also breeze will eliminate 106, however that is mana intensive.

==Two Weapon Combat Training==
The introduction of Fix skills and Fix Stats, will allows new rangers to tweak their efforts with great ease. I suggest Maintain your core training, finesse skills/Stats as starting Stats have increased and allow you to gain more your training points while boosting over all stat totals. (this is an entire topic all it's own) (word smith this it isn't sounding right)

===Two Weapon Combat Ranger Core Training===

This is your base training that every two weapon ranger should have each level.

*2x (6/4) [[Combat Maneuvers]]:
*2x (3/2) [[Two Weapon Combat]]:
*2x (3/1) [[Edged Weapons]] (Blunt weapons can be used, slightly increased training cost, do not over look this if it appeals to your style of ranger)
*1x (4/0) [[Physical Fitness]]: (2x as soon as points are available, no shield, you will be getting hit, you need this)
*1x (7/5) [[Dodge]]
*1x (0/5) [[Harness Power]]
*1x (0/17) [[Spell Research]]: (May have to skip spells a few levels until training points work out)
*1x (0/3) [[Perception]]: take higher at cap (if you can single, go for it, I think you will be strapped for points: You can skip this when you need to)

Total of (/) (need to check this it is not right)

===TWC Ranger Discreet Training===

These values are plateaus you should strive to reach at some point in your career.

*1x (5/0) [[Armor Use]]: (Aurach's goal was 110 ranks for a chain hauberk and then 170 ranks post cap to reduce maneuver penalties in hauberk)
*5 ranks of [[Multi Opponent Combat]] (10/4) as soon as you can fit it in. (30 ranks allows 2 strikes per weapon on a target, 55 ranks allows you to focus mstrike 3 times per weapon on a single target) Reduces effects of being outnumbered.
*50 Ranks in [[Climbing]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make climb checks prior to that.
*50 Ranks in [[Swimming]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make swim checks prior to that.
*[[Spiritual Lore, Blessings]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after Getting 650
*[[Spiritual Lore, Summoning]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after getting 650
(your 1 rank of these two lores gives slight increases in many of your spells, low training point cost boosts, 5 ranks is Blessing lore is very interesting also as it will allow your 117 spirit strike to have a 3% chance to affect two strikes for you being both weapons)

===Spell Research===

My preferred training order: for a two weapon build
601, 101-103, 602-618, 104-107, 619-650, 108-130, Ranger ranks for life 'Aurach Moonshadew'

(other rangers prefer minor spirit 140 and ranger 162 which provides the best CS)

I prefer to get hues, then 101-103, I like having the low mana shield of 102 with this type of character.
After that Mobility is the goal. Then getting deep blues. Then I would head for Aspect.
This is simply my preference looking back on my build.

===Optional Additional Training===

A list of the most common skills to use your additional training points on.

*1x [[Ambush]] when you can fit the ranks in, 1x at cap (more as you feel the need) (I am singled at cap currently and do very well ambushing)
*2x [[Stalking and Hiding]] – If you plan to ambush at cap you will want to 2x this, post cap
*1x-2x [[Survival]] – This will aid skinning, foraging, and overland movement
*1x-2x [[First Aid]] – This will aid in skinning and reduce herb eating RT
*Spiritual Lore: Blessing and Summoning ranger preference, I think it should be gained after ranger spells are maxed, however 5 ranks of blessing lore will allow a 3% chance to have MS117 affect two strikes low chance but is nice when it happens)
*[[Magic Item Use]] I regret not having this 1x earlier. I did it post cap and love it.
*[[Arcane Symbols]] I regret not having this 1x earlier (immediately after MIU).
*15 ranks [[Spiritual Mana Control]] as soon as you learn it is fun to share and play well with others. 15 ranks is enough to share with most Older Spirit mana using folks (25 ranks post cap if you like).

===Post Cap Goals===

*2x Physical Fitness (immediately at cap or earlier)
*2x [[Combat Maneuvers]] (At cap or earlier)
*2x [[Dodge]] (after maxing ranger spells)
*55 ranks [[Multi-Opponent Combat]] for 6 strikes focused on a single target
[[Thrown Weapons]] may be a very interesting post cap goal, since you will throw both weapons and you already have the required support skill ([[TWC]], [[Perception]], Combat Maneuvers)
Blessing Lore
Summoning Lore

'''[[Combat Maneuver]] skills (mine at cap at moment) Post Cap goals:'''
{|{{prettytable}}
|-style = "background:#DDD; color: blue"
!Skill
!Mnemonic
!Ranks
|-align=center
|[[Cunning Defense]]
|cdefense
|5
|-align=center
|[[Combat Movement]]
|cmovement
|5
|-align=center
|[[Hamstring]]
|hamstring
|5
|-align=center
|[[Disarm Weapon]]
|disarm
|5
|-align=center
|[[Shadow Mastery]]
|smastery
|5
|-align=center
|[[Sweep]]
|sweep
|1
|-align=center
|[[Garrote]]
|garrote
|1
|-align=center
|[[Subdual Strike]]
|sstrike
|1
|}

*TWC rangers will find these useful (order of preference for me was Cdefense, Cmovement, Hamstring, Disarm, Smastery)

This is simply how Aurach trained Combat maneuver skills.

==Race==
I would hope race depends largely on the vision you have for your ranger. That being said, Agility and Dexterity are very important to reduce RT. A race that has strength and can manage encumbrance would also be wise.

==What Armor to use?==
The best armor you can afford.

My advice is Double leather, then Brigandine, then hauberk, for Full body coverage. I like the full body coverage as it allows me to wear arm/leg greaves, helm, and aventails, if I choose with no added penalties. I kept my eye out for enhancives on the added armor pieces. Padding crit or damage is always a good choice if you can afford it.

My cap armor is an imflass chain hauberk, with added helm, arm and leg greaves and aventail, it has 11% hinderance. I find the failure acceptable to my style. Some will not. A paladin for fluidity would be fantastic. I also kept training armor to reduce maneuver penalties. Armor skill is also a secondary skill for redux so serves some double duty.

==Keeping your RT manageable==

You will find the links below for Agi/Dex and Two weapon combat RT. The RT is probably the most confusing part of using two weapons. I say this because from time to time, it does not match the documents. Weapon weights, base speed, Agi/Dex, encumberance, and Character strength all affect your RT. (Assume Aspect, Phoen's Strength, Enhancive items, and Wizard strength will be the greatest help here)

To really enjoy and work the two weapon using ranger. You will need to test various combinations of weapons. Early on you might try short sword and gauche for the gauches added DS when used in off hand. Later on perhaps a long sword/short sword when you want to hit harder and keep RT manageable. Too many weapons to list.

==A Rangers Weapon Sets==
There are many weapons to try. Your ranger will have two or possibly three different sets as he heads out on patrol at certain points in thier career. This is where you get to show your rangers individuality.

My carry weapons at cap are: longsword/shortsword set, two hand axe set, and a dagger set. This is not based on min maxing, it is more a collection of style, effectiveness vs heavy armor, and a couple speed weapons for when encumbered by heaps of treasure and skins.

Do not forget to look at blunt weapons if that is more appealing to you.

I can say, that this will be fun. Try all kinds of cheap sets of weapons to get what feels right.
This will evolve as Stats increase, better enhancive items are acquired, and weapon choice vs armor types are considered

So, what feels right now, may change at various training stages and against different types of armor types (critters).

Feras weapons, Flares, Ensorcellment, Weighting (crit and damage) can all boost your effectiveness. You hit twice as often and good combinations of the previous can add great advantages to your ranger.

https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Edged_Weapons
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Roundtime
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat

==TWC Defenses==

'All about that AS that AS , no defense, it's all about the AS'

Ok, so seriously, defenses as a two weapon using ranger. As usual we have some good options available.

'''TWC Parry DS:''' https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat
I cannot explain it better than is listed.

'''Stances:''' No really there are stances other than OFF and DEF. A good understanding of how you can adjust your stance to maintain adequate defense for the current threat and still provide you with enough offensive punch to down your enemies will really help. Your ranger spells have a great variety to help you to do this.

'''TWC Out Right Parry:''' each weapon will provide a 5% chance to parry incoming melee attacks against like level foes in stance offensive (https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Parry) Assume Aspect:Mantis aids nicely with both weapons chances to parry.

'''Bolt Defenses''': Two Weapon Combat style does not offer good bolt defenses (no shield). So, as a ranger we adapt. The ranger spell list and minor spell list will provide a great amount of assistance to our Bolt DS. I would like to focus on those that you can use to finesse things and make your twc ranger even more protected. Minor Spirit Air wall 102, and Fog 106 can be used as well as seeking areas when hunting that provide natural defenses. Your wall of thorns blocking incoming attacks,(later boosted by Aspect Porcupine), and Evasion/dodge (boosted by serpent) however will all aid you greatly. ''Assume Aspect Mantis with a runestaff will parry bolts/arrows as well. (test it)'' Rotating aspects when mana is not the main issue.

'''NOTE: The following Runestaff comments are for much later down the line but am tossing it in here for reference''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying Bolts and arrows. Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This would require a runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider. Test it out if you find the need for more bolt defenses beyond what you get from Wall of Thorns or out right evasion.

'''Evade''' Can be boosted by your Aspect Serpent, I saw a really significant increase here from 21% to 40%.

==runestaff test==
'''NOTE''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying bolts spells, ball spells, and arrows. Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This Would require runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider. Test it out.

An 800 attack test with the mage Drafix's assistance has shown my ranger's wall of thorns stopped about 21% of incoming bolt attacks. 24% were then outright evaded (wearing my hauberk or not wearing it was the same due to armor over training), (this increased to 40% evaded with Aspect Serpent running) and then after that 7% were blocked by the runestaff. Giving an over all total of 51%+ to 67% stopped/evaded/parried.

Also, the % was based on bolt spell by like level caster. I believe the Ball spells and Arrows the % to parry are different. And did not do a deep test of those at this time.

The rune staff below is +8 deringo. (a staff with eblade on it would cost next to nothing) (test for this posting was 8 of 20 and 10 of 27) using mantis against ball spells

''Sepher gestures at you''.

Sepher hurls a roaring ball of fire at you!

You deflect the bolt with your runestaff!

''Sepher nocks a dull black wooden arrow fletched with white-spotted falcon feathers in his sephwir long bow.'' (10/35 against arrows)

Sepher fires a dull black arrow at you!

You deflect the arrow with your runestaff!

The arrow disappears into the local environs.

Now I certainly do not expect everyone using TWC to invest in runestaves. But please remember that was 7% of the over all total attacks, not the ones that got past wall of thorns or were evaded outright) the runestaff seemed to parry about 11% of the bolts it had a chance to parry. So, if bolts become an issue, it is something to consider since you do have magical training as a semi and have a Bolt Weakness using Two weapons. You could also pick up a shield and train it, but the magical skills you have most likely have already trained in.

==Society==

(Anyone want to toss in pro-cons please do so)

Aurach is a member of Voln. Two Weapons against the many non-critable undead has worked rather well.

==recap==

==See Also==
*[[Ranger]] (main article)
*[[A beginner's guide to playing a ranger]]
http://www.play.net/gs4/info/skills.asp#twoweaponcombat
Evade
Parry

==References==
*[http://www.play.net/gs4/info/professions/rangers.asp Ranger profession on Play.net]

{{stub}}
[[Category:Guides]]
[[Category:Ranger]]
[[Category:Professional Guides]]

Aurach's Two Weapon Combat Guide: A Ranger's Perspective

2015-02-19T20:52:02Z

SHEN1: /* What Armor to use? */

{{Work-in-progress}}

==The Two Weapon Combat Ranger==
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/File:Twcranger.jpg (need to add this in off to side at some point visibly)

Observations on the style

==Why two weapons?==

Most ambushing rangers and archers can kill with one well placed strike. So too can the two weapon ambushing ranger, but the world has creatures that cannot be critical struck and only massive raw damage will suffice.

Enter our ranger hero, weapon in each hand, spell at the ready. 'Guts, 'Glory, 'Aspects'

For me the style has always been about using your magics and blades together. This is really not a stand in the open and get beat on type of style. You can do that however. I prefer the use of good timing, and a rather large variety of spells to maneuver your opponents into situations favorable to you.

Your greatest strength is your variety of magics, combat maneuver skills, and weapons combined.

From the skills and stats a Ranger can be a very good two weapon user. Great spirit warding, good variety of spells, low costs to train a variety of skills, some of the best attack spells for a semi, great defensive spells all make for a really versatile and easily adjustable character.

While not recommended to try from early on, this style when combined with ambushing and Multi Opponent Combat is absolutely devastating.

==Ranger Spells==
The ranger spell list provides some unique benefits for TWC rangers, both directly and indirectly.

[[606|Phoen's strength (606)]] gives a phantom increase of +10 to [[Strength|strength]] bonus. Strength is incredibly important to keep RT down (encumbrance really affects the left hand weapon).

[[Mobility (618)]] offers a large bonus to Dodge, a TWC rangers primary defense

[[Camouflage (608)]] a +30 AS bonus from camouflage for multiple attacks. Yes both weapons get the bonus from a ranger leaping to ambush or 'plain attacking' from a camo 608 position, so this can be used by non ambusher for the boost if your quick, so you at least get the +30 AS bonus.

[[Wall of Thorns (640)]] of great assistance to a TWC ranger, the best defense is having the trees block for you and not getting hit at all.

[[650|Assume aspect (650)]] is custom made for a TWC ranger, allowing you to tweak your form to meet the current threat or boost a weakness. (alternating between rat and wolf for example maintains a boost to your agi/dex)

All Rangers also benefit from a plethora of set up spells that can complement any weapon style, such as [[Sounds (607)]], [[610|Tangle weed (610)]] , [[Call Swarm (615)]] and Sunburst (609) (note the effects vs undead)

TWC rangers will find great use in the [[Minor Spiritual]] spell circle, especially [[Spirit Barrier (102)]] and [[106|Spirit fog (106)]], to provide added defenses. Note that 102 gives a penalty to [[Attack strength|AS]] so you could [[STOP (verb)|STOP 102]], which removes the spell so you can attack without the penalty making for a creative low mana Shield/stance dance option, also breeze will eliminate 106, however that is mana intensive.

==Two Weapon Combat Training==
The introduction of Fix skills and Fix Stats, will allows new rangers to tweak their efforts with great ease. I suggest Maintain your core training, finesse skills/Stats as starting Stats have increased and allow you to gain more your training points while boosting over all stat totals. (this is an entire topic all it's own) (word smith this it isn't sounding right)

===Two Weapon Combat Ranger Core Training===

This is your base training that every two weapon ranger should have each level.

*2x (6/4) [[Combat Maneuvers]]:
*2x (3/2) [[Two Weapon Combat]]:
*2x (3/1) [[Edged Weapons]] (Blunt weapons can be used, slightly increased training cost, do not over look this if it appeals to your style of ranger)
*1x (4/0) [[Physical Fitness]]: (2x as soon as points are available, no shield, you will be getting hit, you need this)
*1x (7/5) [[Dodge]]
*1x (0/5) [[Harness Power]]
*1x (0/17) [[Spell Research]]: (May have to skip spells a few levels until training points work out)
*1x (0/3) [[Perception]]: take higher at cap (if you can single, go for it, I think you will be strapped for points: You can skip this when you need to)

Total of (/) (need to check this it is not right)

===TWC Ranger Discreet Training===

These values are plateaus you should strive to reach at some point in your career.

*1x (5/0) [[Armor Use]]: (Aurach's goal was 110 ranks for a chain hauberk and then 170 ranks post cap to reduce maneuver penalties in hauberk)
*5 ranks of [[Multi Opponent Combat]] (10/4) as soon as you can fit it in. (30 ranks allows 2 strikes per weapon on a target, 55 ranks allows you to focus mstrike 3 times per weapon on a single target) Reduces effects of being outnumbered.
*50 Ranks in [[Climbing]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make climb checks prior to that.
*50 Ranks in [[Swimming]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make swim checks prior to that.
*[[Spiritual Lore, Blessings]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after Getting 650
*[[Spiritual Lore, Summoning]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after getting 650
(your 1 rank of these two lores gives slight increases in many of your spells, low training point cost boosts, 5 ranks is Blessing lore is very interesting also as it will allow your 117 spirit strike to have a 3% chance to affect two strikes for you being both weapons)

===Spell Research===

My preferred training order: for a two weapon build
601, 101-103, 602-618, 104-107, 619-650, 108-130, Ranger ranks for life 'Aurach Moonshadew'

(other rangers prefer minor spirit 140 and ranger 162 which provides the best CS)

I prefer to get hues, then 101-103, I like having the low mana shield of 102 with this type of character.
After that Mobility is the goal. Then getting deep blues. Then I would head for Aspect.
This is simply my preference looking back on my build.

===Optional Additional Training===

A list of the most common skills to use your additional training points on.

*1x [[Ambush]] when you can fit the ranks in, 1x at cap (more as you feel the need) (I am singled at cap currently and do very well ambushing)
*2x [[Stalking and Hiding]] – If you plan to ambush at cap you will want to 2x this, post cap
*1x-2x [[Survival]] – This will aid skinning, foraging, and overland movement
*1x-2x [[First Aid]] – This will aid in skinning and reduce herb eating RT
*Spiritual Lore: Blessing and Summoning ranger preference, I think it should be gained after ranger spells are maxed, however 5 ranks of blessing lore will allow a 3% chance to have MS117 affect two strikes low chance but is nice when it happens)
*[[Magic Item Use]] I regret not having this 1x earlier. I did it post cap and love it.
*[[Arcane Symbols]] I regret not having this 1x earlier (immediately after MIU).
*15 ranks [[Spiritual Mana Control]] as soon as you learn it is fun to share and play well with others. 15 ranks is enough to share with most Older Spirit mana using folks (25 ranks post cap if you like).

===Post Cap Goals===

*2x Physical Fitness (immediately at cap or earlier)
*2x [[Combat Maneuvers]] (At cap or earlier)
*2x [[Dodge]] (after maxing ranger spells)
*55 ranks [[Multi-Opponent Combat]] for 6 strikes focused on a single target
[[Thrown Weapons]] may be a very interesting post cap goal, since you will throw both weapons and you already have the required support skill ([[TWC]], [[Perception]], Combat Maneuvers)
Blessing Lore
Summoning Lore

'''[[Combat Maneuver]] skills (mine at cap at moment) Post Cap goals:'''
{|{{prettytable}}
|-style = "background:#DDD; color: blue"
!Skill
!Mnemonic
!Ranks
|-align=center
|[[Cunning Defense]]
|cdefense
|5
|-align=center
|[[Combat Movement]]
|cmovement
|5
|-align=center
|[[Hamstring]]
|hamstring
|5
|-align=center
|[[Disarm Weapon]]
|disarm
|5
|-align=center
|[[Shadow Mastery]]
|smastery
|5
|-align=center
|[[Sweep]]
|sweep
|1
|-align=center
|[[Garrote]]
|garrote
|1
|-align=center
|[[Subdual Strike]]
|sstrike
|1
|}

*TWC rangers will find these useful (order of preference for me was Cdefense, Cmovement, Hamstring, Disarm, Smastery)

This is simply how Aurach trained Combat maneuver skills.

==Race==
I would hope race depends largely on the vision you have for your ranger. That being said, Agility and Dexterity are very important to reduce RT. A race that has strength and can manage encumbrance would also be wise.

==What Armor to use?==
The best armor you can afford.

My advice is Double leather, then Brigandine, then hauberk, for Full body coverage. I like the full body coverage as it allows me to wear arm/leg greaves, helm, and aventails, if I choose with no added penalties. I kept my eye out for enhancives on the added armor pieces. Padding crit or damage is always a good choice if you can afford it.

My cap armor is an imflass chain hauberk, with added helm, arm and leg greaves and aventail, it has 11% hinderance. I find the failure acceptable to my style. Some will not. A paladin for fluidity would be fantastic. I also kept training armor to reduce maneuver penalties. Armor skill is also a secondary skill for redux so serves some double duty.

==Keeping your RT manageable==

You will find the links below for Agi/Dex and Two weapon combat RT. The RT is probably the most confusing part of using two weapons. I say this because from time to time, it does not match the documents. Weapon weights, base speed, Agi/Dex, encumberance, and Character strength all affect your RT. (Assume Aspect, Phoen's Strength, Enhancive items, and Wizard strength will be the greatest help here)

To really enjoy and work the two weapon using ranger. You will need to test various combinations of weapons. Early on you might try short sword and gauche for the gauches added DS when used in off hand. Later on perhaps a long sword/short sword when you want to hit harder and keep RT manageable. Too many weapons to list.

==A Rangers Weapon Sets==
There are many weapons to try. Your ranger will have two or possibly three different sets as he heads out on patrol at certain points in thier career. This is where you get to show your rangers individuality.

My carry weapons at cap are: longsword/shortsword set, two hand axe set, and a dagger set. This is not based on min maxing, it is more a collection of style, effectiveness vs heavy armor, and a couple speed weapons for when encumbered by heaps of treasure and skins.

Do not forget to look at blunt weapons if that is more appealing to you.

I can say, that this will be fun. Try all kinds of cheap sets of weapons to get what feels right.
This will evolve as Stats increase, better enhancive items are acquired, and weapon choice vs armor types are considered

So, what feels right now, may change at various training stages and against different types of armor types (critters).

Feras weapons, Flares, Ensorcellment, Weighting (crit and damage) can all boost your effectiveness. You hit twice as often and good combinations of the previous can add great advantages to your ranger.

https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Edged_Weapons
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Roundtime
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat

==TWC Defenses==

'All about that AS that AS , no defense, it's all about the AS'

Ok, so seriously, defenses as a two weapon using ranger. As usual we have some good options available.

'''TWC Parry DS:''' https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat
I cannot explain it better than is listed.

'''Stances:''' No really there are stances other than OFF and DEF. A good understanding of how you can adjust your stance to maintain adequate defense for the current threat and still provide you with enough offensive punch to down your enemies will really help. Your ranger spells have a great variety to help you to do this.

'''TWC Out Right Parry:''' each weapon will provide a 5% chance to parry incoming melee attacks against like level foes in stance offensive (https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Parry) Assume Aspect:Mantis aids nicely with both weapons chances to parry.

'''Bolt Defenses''': Two Weapon Combat style does not offer good bolt defenses (no shield). So, as a ranger we adapt. The ranger spell list and minor spell list will provide a great amount of assistance to our Bolt DS. I would like to focus on those that you can use to finesse things and make your twc ranger even more protected. Minor Spirit Air wall 102, and Fog 106 can be used as well as seeking areas when hunting that provide natural defenses. Your wall of thorns blocking incoming attacks,(later boosted by Aspect Porcupine), and Evasion/dodge (boosted by serpent) however will all aid you greatly. ''Assume Aspect Mantis with a runestaff will parry bolts/arrows as well. (test it)'' Rotating aspects when mana is not the main issue.

'''NOTE: The following Runestaff comments are for much later down the line but am tossing it in here for reference''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying Bolts and arrows. Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This would require a runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider. Test it out if you find the need for more bolt defenses beyond what you get from Wall of Thorns or out right evasion.

'''Evade''' Can be boosted by your Aspect Serpent, I saw a really significant increase here from 21% to 40%.

==runestaff test==
'''NOTE''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying bolts spells, ball spells, and arrows. Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This Would require runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider. Test it out.

An 800 attack test with the mage Drafix's assistance has shown my ranger's wall of thorns stopped about 21% of incoming bolt attacks. 24% were then outright evaded (wearing my hauberk or not wearing it was the same due to armor over training), (this increased to 40% evaded with Aspect Serpent running) and then after that 7% were blocked by the runestaff. Giving an over all total of 51%+ to 67% stopped/evaded/parried.

Also, the % was based on bolt spell by like level caster. I believe the Ball spells and Arrows the % to parry are different. And did not do a deep test of those at this time.

The rune staff below is +8 deringo. (a staff with eblade on it would cost next to nothing) (test for this posting was 8 of 20 and 10 of 27) using mantis against ball spells

''Sepher gestures at you''.

Sepher hurls a roaring ball of fire at you!

You deflect the bolt with your runestaff!

''Sepher nocks a dull black wooden arrow fletched with white-spotted falcon feathers in his sephwir long bow.'' (10/35 against arrows)

Sepher fires a dull black arrow at you!

You deflect the arrow with your runestaff!

The arrow disappears into the local environs.

Now I certainly do not expect everyone using TWC to invest in runestaves. But please remember that was 7% of the over all total attacks, not the ones that got past wall of thorns or were evaded outright) the runestaff seemed to parry about 11% of the bolts it had a chance to parry. So, if bolts become an issue, it is something to consider since you do have magical training as a semi and have a Bolt Weakness using Two weapons. You could also pick up a shield and train it, but the magical skills you have most likely have already trained in.

==Society==

(Anyone want to toss in pro-cons please do so)

Aurach is a member of Voln. Two Weapons against the many non-critable undead has worked rather well.

==See Also==
*[[Ranger]] (main article)
*[[A beginner's guide to playing a ranger]]
http://www.play.net/gs4/info/skills.asp#twoweaponcombat
Evade
Parry

==References==
*[http://www.play.net/gs4/info/professions/rangers.asp Ranger profession on Play.net]

{{stub}}
[[Category:Guides]]
[[Category:Ranger]]
[[Category:Professional Guides]]

Aurach's Two Weapon Combat Guide: A Ranger's Perspective

2015-02-19T20:44:28Z

SHEN1: /* Why two weapons? */

{{Work-in-progress}}

==The Two Weapon Combat Ranger==
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/File:Twcranger.jpg (need to add this in off to side at some point visibly)

Observations on the style

==Why two weapons?==

Most ambushing rangers and archers can kill with one well placed strike. So too can the two weapon ambushing ranger, but the world has creatures that cannot be critical struck and only massive raw damage will suffice.

Enter our ranger hero, weapon in each hand, spell at the ready. 'Guts, 'Glory, 'Aspects'

For me the style has always been about using your magics and blades together. This is really not a stand in the open and get beat on type of style. You can do that however. I prefer the use of good timing, and a rather large variety of spells to maneuver your opponents into situations favorable to you.

Your greatest strength is your variety of magics, combat maneuver skills, and weapons combined.

From the skills and stats a Ranger can be a very good two weapon user. Great spirit warding, good variety of spells, low costs to train a variety of skills, some of the best attack spells for a semi, great defensive spells all make for a really versatile and easily adjustable character.

While not recommended to try from early on, this style when combined with ambushing and Multi Opponent Combat is absolutely devastating.

==Ranger Spells==
The ranger spell list provides some unique benefits for TWC rangers, both directly and indirectly.

[[606|Phoen's strength (606)]] gives a phantom increase of +10 to [[Strength|strength]] bonus. Strength is incredibly important to keep RT down (encumbrance really affects the left hand weapon).

[[Mobility (618)]] offers a large bonus to Dodge, a TWC rangers primary defense

[[Camouflage (608)]] a +30 AS bonus from camouflage for multiple attacks. Yes both weapons get the bonus from a ranger leaping to ambush or 'plain attacking' from a camo 608 position, so this can be used by non ambusher for the boost if your quick, so you at least get the +30 AS bonus.

[[Wall of Thorns (640)]] of great assistance to a TWC ranger, the best defense is having the trees block for you and not getting hit at all.

[[650|Assume aspect (650)]] is custom made for a TWC ranger, allowing you to tweak your form to meet the current threat or boost a weakness. (alternating between rat and wolf for example maintains a boost to your agi/dex)

All Rangers also benefit from a plethora of set up spells that can complement any weapon style, such as [[Sounds (607)]], [[610|Tangle weed (610)]] , [[Call Swarm (615)]] and Sunburst (609) (note the effects vs undead)

TWC rangers will find great use in the [[Minor Spiritual]] spell circle, especially [[Spirit Barrier (102)]] and [[106|Spirit fog (106)]], to provide added defenses. Note that 102 gives a penalty to [[Attack strength|AS]] so you could [[STOP (verb)|STOP 102]], which removes the spell so you can attack without the penalty making for a creative low mana Shield/stance dance option, also breeze will eliminate 106, however that is mana intensive.

==Two Weapon Combat Training==
The introduction of Fix skills and Fix Stats, will allows new rangers to tweak their efforts with great ease. I suggest Maintain your core training, finesse skills/Stats as starting Stats have increased and allow you to gain more your training points while boosting over all stat totals. (this is an entire topic all it's own) (word smith this it isn't sounding right)

===Two Weapon Combat Ranger Core Training===

This is your base training that every two weapon ranger should have each level.

*2x (6/4) [[Combat Maneuvers]]:
*2x (3/2) [[Two Weapon Combat]]:
*2x (3/1) [[Edged Weapons]] (Blunt weapons can be used, slightly increased training cost, do not over look this if it appeals to your style of ranger)
*1x (4/0) [[Physical Fitness]]: (2x as soon as points are available, no shield, you will be getting hit, you need this)
*1x (7/5) [[Dodge]]
*1x (0/5) [[Harness Power]]
*1x (0/17) [[Spell Research]]: (May have to skip spells a few levels until training points work out)
*1x (0/3) [[Perception]]: take higher at cap (if you can single, go for it, I think you will be strapped for points: You can skip this when you need to)

Total of (/) (need to check this it is not right)

===TWC Ranger Discreet Training===

These values are plateaus you should strive to reach at some point in your career.

*1x (5/0) [[Armor Use]]: (Aurach's goal was 110 ranks for a chain hauberk and then 170 ranks post cap to reduce maneuver penalties in hauberk)
*5 ranks of [[Multi Opponent Combat]] (10/4) as soon as you can fit it in. (30 ranks allows 2 strikes per weapon on a target, 55 ranks allows you to focus mstrike 3 times per weapon on a single target) Reduces effects of being outnumbered.
*50 Ranks in [[Climbing]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make climb checks prior to that.
*50 Ranks in [[Swimming]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make swim checks prior to that.
*[[Spiritual Lore, Blessings]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after Getting 650
*[[Spiritual Lore, Summoning]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after getting 650
(your 1 rank of these two lores gives slight increases in many of your spells, low training point cost boosts, 5 ranks is Blessing lore is very interesting also as it will allow your 117 spirit strike to have a 3% chance to affect two strikes for you being both weapons)

===Spell Research===

My preferred training order: for a two weapon build
601, 101-103, 602-618, 104-107, 619-650, 108-130, Ranger ranks for life 'Aurach Moonshadew'

(other rangers prefer minor spirit 140 and ranger 162 which provides the best CS)

I prefer to get hues, then 101-103, I like having the low mana shield of 102 with this type of character.
After that Mobility is the goal. Then getting deep blues. Then I would head for Aspect.
This is simply my preference looking back on my build.

===Optional Additional Training===

A list of the most common skills to use your additional training points on.

*1x [[Ambush]] when you can fit the ranks in, 1x at cap (more as you feel the need) (I am singled at cap currently and do very well ambushing)
*2x [[Stalking and Hiding]] – If you plan to ambush at cap you will want to 2x this, post cap
*1x-2x [[Survival]] – This will aid skinning, foraging, and overland movement
*1x-2x [[First Aid]] – This will aid in skinning and reduce herb eating RT
*Spiritual Lore: Blessing and Summoning ranger preference, I think it should be gained after ranger spells are maxed, however 5 ranks of blessing lore will allow a 3% chance to have MS117 affect two strikes low chance but is nice when it happens)
*[[Magic Item Use]] I regret not having this 1x earlier. I did it post cap and love it.
*[[Arcane Symbols]] I regret not having this 1x earlier (immediately after MIU).
*15 ranks [[Spiritual Mana Control]] as soon as you learn it is fun to share and play well with others. 15 ranks is enough to share with most Older Spirit mana using folks (25 ranks post cap if you like).

===Post Cap Goals===

*2x Physical Fitness (immediately at cap or earlier)
*2x [[Combat Maneuvers]] (At cap or earlier)
*2x [[Dodge]] (after maxing ranger spells)
*55 ranks [[Multi-Opponent Combat]] for 6 strikes focused on a single target
[[Thrown Weapons]] may be a very interesting post cap goal, since you will throw both weapons and you already have the required support skill ([[TWC]], [[Perception]], Combat Maneuvers)
Blessing Lore
Summoning Lore

'''[[Combat Maneuver]] skills (mine at cap at moment) Post Cap goals:'''
{|{{prettytable}}
|-style = "background:#DDD; color: blue"
!Skill
!Mnemonic
!Ranks
|-align=center
|[[Cunning Defense]]
|cdefense
|5
|-align=center
|[[Combat Movement]]
|cmovement
|5
|-align=center
|[[Hamstring]]
|hamstring
|5
|-align=center
|[[Disarm Weapon]]
|disarm
|5
|-align=center
|[[Shadow Mastery]]
|smastery
|5
|-align=center
|[[Sweep]]
|sweep
|1
|-align=center
|[[Garrote]]
|garrote
|1
|-align=center
|[[Subdual Strike]]
|sstrike
|1
|}

*TWC rangers will find these useful (order of preference for me was Cdefense, Cmovement, Hamstring, Disarm, Smastery)

This is simply how Aurach trained Combat maneuver skills.

==Race==
I would hope race depends largely on the vision you have for your ranger. That being said, Agility and Dexterity are very important to reduce RT. A race that has strength and can manage encumbrance would also be wise.

==What Armor to use?==
Good armor you will need it.

My advice is Double leather, then Brigandine, then hauberk, for Full body coverage. I like the full body coverage as it allows me to wear arm/leg greaves, helm, and aventails, if I choose with no added penalties. I kept my eye out for enhancives on the added armor pieces. Padding crit or damage is always a good choice if you can afford it.

My cap armor is a chain hauberk, with added helm, arm and leg greaves and aventail, it has 11% hinderance. I find the failure acceptable to my style. Some will not. A paladin for fluidity would be fantastic. I also kept training armor to reduce maneuver penalties. Armor skill is also a secondary skill for redux so serves some double duty.

==Keeping your RT manageable==

You will find the links below for Agi/Dex and Two weapon combat RT. The RT is probably the most confusing part of using two weapons. I say this because from time to time, it does not match the documents. Weapon weights, base speed, Agi/Dex, encumberance, and Character strength all affect your RT. (Assume Aspect, Phoen's Strength, Enhancive items, and Wizard strength will be the greatest help here)

To really enjoy and work the two weapon using ranger. You will need to test various combinations of weapons. Early on you might try short sword and gauche for the gauches added DS when used in off hand. Later on perhaps a long sword/short sword when you want to hit harder and keep RT manageable. Too many weapons to list.

==A Rangers Weapon Sets==
There are many weapons to try. Your ranger will have two or possibly three different sets as he heads out on patrol at certain points in thier career. This is where you get to show your rangers individuality.

My carry weapons at cap are: longsword/shortsword set, two hand axe set, and a dagger set. This is not based on min maxing, it is more a collection of style, effectiveness vs heavy armor, and a couple speed weapons for when encumbered by heaps of treasure and skins.

Do not forget to look at blunt weapons if that is more appealing to you.

I can say, that this will be fun. Try all kinds of cheap sets of weapons to get what feels right.
This will evolve as Stats increase, better enhancive items are acquired, and weapon choice vs armor types are considered

So, what feels right now, may change at various training stages and against different types of armor types (critters).

Feras weapons, Flares, Ensorcellment, Weighting (crit and damage) can all boost your effectiveness. You hit twice as often and good combinations of the previous can add great advantages to your ranger.

https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Edged_Weapons
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Roundtime
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat

==TWC Defenses==

'All about that AS that AS , no defense, it's all about the AS'

Ok, so seriously, defenses as a two weapon using ranger. As usual we have some good options available.

'''TWC Parry DS:''' https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat
I cannot explain it better than is listed.

'''Stances:''' No really there are stances other than OFF and DEF. A good understanding of how you can adjust your stance to maintain adequate defense for the current threat and still provide you with enough offensive punch to down your enemies will really help. Your ranger spells have a great variety to help you to do this.

'''TWC Out Right Parry:''' each weapon will provide a 5% chance to parry incoming melee attacks against like level foes in stance offensive (https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Parry) Assume Aspect:Mantis aids nicely with both weapons chances to parry.

'''Bolt Defenses''': Two Weapon Combat style does not offer good bolt defenses (no shield). So, as a ranger we adapt. The ranger spell list and minor spell list will provide a great amount of assistance to our Bolt DS. I would like to focus on those that you can use to finesse things and make your twc ranger even more protected. Minor Spirit Air wall 102, and Fog 106 can be used as well as seeking areas when hunting that provide natural defenses. Your wall of thorns blocking incoming attacks,(later boosted by Aspect Porcupine), and Evasion/dodge (boosted by serpent) however will all aid you greatly. ''Assume Aspect Mantis with a runestaff will parry bolts/arrows as well. (test it)'' Rotating aspects when mana is not the main issue.

'''NOTE: The following Runestaff comments are for much later down the line but am tossing it in here for reference''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying Bolts and arrows. Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This would require a runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider. Test it out if you find the need for more bolt defenses beyond what you get from Wall of Thorns or out right evasion.

'''Evade''' Can be boosted by your Aspect Serpent, I saw a really significant increase here from 21% to 40%.

==runestaff test==
'''NOTE''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying bolts spells, ball spells, and arrows. Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This Would require runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider. Test it out.

An 800 attack test with the mage Drafix's assistance has shown my ranger's wall of thorns stopped about 21% of incoming bolt attacks. 24% were then outright evaded (wearing my hauberk or not wearing it was the same due to armor over training), (this increased to 40% evaded with Aspect Serpent running) and then after that 7% were blocked by the runestaff. Giving an over all total of 51%+ to 67% stopped/evaded/parried.

Also, the % was based on bolt spell by like level caster. I believe the Ball spells and Arrows the % to parry are different. And did not do a deep test of those at this time.

The rune staff below is +8 deringo. (a staff with eblade on it would cost next to nothing) (test for this posting was 8 of 20 and 10 of 27) using mantis against ball spells

''Sepher gestures at you''.

Sepher hurls a roaring ball of fire at you!

You deflect the bolt with your runestaff!

''Sepher nocks a dull black wooden arrow fletched with white-spotted falcon feathers in his sephwir long bow.'' (10/35 against arrows)

Sepher fires a dull black arrow at you!

You deflect the arrow with your runestaff!

The arrow disappears into the local environs.

Now I certainly do not expect everyone using TWC to invest in runestaves. But please remember that was 7% of the over all total attacks, not the ones that got past wall of thorns or were evaded outright) the runestaff seemed to parry about 11% of the bolts it had a chance to parry. So, if bolts become an issue, it is something to consider since you do have magical training as a semi and have a Bolt Weakness using Two weapons. You could also pick up a shield and train it, but the magical skills you have most likely have already trained in.

==Society==

(Anyone want to toss in pro-cons please do so)

Aurach is a member of Voln. Two Weapons against the many non-critable undead has worked rather well.

==See Also==
*[[Ranger]] (main article)
*[[A beginner's guide to playing a ranger]]
http://www.play.net/gs4/info/skills.asp#twoweaponcombat
Evade
Parry

==References==
*[http://www.play.net/gs4/info/professions/rangers.asp Ranger profession on Play.net]

{{stub}}
[[Category:Guides]]
[[Category:Ranger]]
[[Category:Professional Guides]]

Talk:Aurach's Two Weapon Combat Guide: A Ranger's Perspective

2015-02-19T20:41:30Z

SHEN1: /* Introduction blurb */

Aurach's Two Weapon Combat Guide: A Ranger's Perspective

2015-02-19T20:15:25Z

SHEN1: /* TWC Ranger Discreet Training */

{{Work-in-progress}}

==The Two Weapon Combat Ranger==
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/File:Twcranger.jpg (need to add this in off to side at some point visibly)

Observations on the style

==Why two weapons?==

Most ambushing rangers and archers can kill with one well placed strike. So too can the two weapon ambushing ranger, but the world has creatures that cannot be critical struck and only massive raw damage will suffice.

Enter our ranger hero, weapon in each hand, spell at the ready. 'Guts, 'glory, 'Aspects'

For me the style has always been about using your magics and blades together. This is really not a stand in the open and get beat on type of style. You can do that however. I prefer the use of good timing, and a rather large variety of spells to maneuver your opponents into situations favorable to you.

Your greatest strength is your variety of magics, combat maneuver skills, and weapons combined.

From the skills and stats a Ranger can be a very good two weapon user. Great spirit warding, good variety of spells, low costs to train a variety of skills, some of the best attack spells for a semi, great defensive spells all make for a really versatile and easily adjustable character.

While not recommended to try from early on, this style when combined with ambushing and Multi Opponent Combat is absolutely devastating.

==Ranger Spells==
The ranger spell list provides some unique benefits for TWC rangers, both directly and indirectly.

[[606|Phoen's strength (606)]] gives a phantom increase of +10 to [[Strength|strength]] bonus. Strength is incredibly important to keep RT down (encumbrance really affects the left hand weapon).

[[Mobility (618)]] offers a large bonus to Dodge, a TWC rangers primary defense

[[Camouflage (608)]] a +30 AS bonus from camouflage for multiple attacks. Yes both weapons get the bonus from a ranger leaping to ambush or 'plain attacking' from a camo 608 position, so this can be used by non ambusher for the boost if your quick, so you at least get the +30 AS bonus.

[[Wall of Thorns (640)]] of great assistance to a TWC ranger, the best defense is having the trees block for you and not getting hit at all.

[[650|Assume aspect (650)]] is custom made for a TWC ranger, allowing you to tweak your form to meet the current threat or boost a weakness. (alternating between rat and wolf for example maintains a boost to your agi/dex)

All Rangers also benefit from a plethora of set up spells that can complement any weapon style, such as [[Sounds (607)]], [[610|Tangle weed (610)]] , [[Call Swarm (615)]] and Sunburst (609) (note the effects vs undead)

TWC rangers will find great use in the [[Minor Spiritual]] spell circle, especially [[Spirit Barrier (102)]] and [[106|Spirit fog (106)]], to provide added defenses. Note that 102 gives a penalty to [[Attack strength|AS]] so you could [[STOP (verb)|STOP 102]], which removes the spell so you can attack without the penalty making for a creative low mana Shield/stance dance option, also breeze will eliminate 106, however that is mana intensive.

==Two Weapon Combat Training==
The introduction of Fix skills and Fix Stats, will allows new rangers to tweak their efforts with great ease. I suggest Maintain your core training, finesse skills/Stats as starting Stats have increased and allow you to gain more your training points while boosting over all stat totals. (this is an entire topic all it's own) (word smith this it isn't sounding right)

===Two Weapon Combat Ranger Core Training===

This is your base training that every two weapon ranger should have each level.

*2x (6/4) [[Combat Maneuvers]]:
*2x (3/2) [[Two Weapon Combat]]:
*2x (3/1) [[Edged Weapons]] (Blunt weapons can be used, slightly increased training cost, do not over look this if it appeals to your style of ranger)
*1x (4/0) [[Physical Fitness]]: (2x as soon as points are available, no shield, you will be getting hit, you need this)
*1x (7/5) [[Dodge]]
*1x (0/5) [[Harness Power]]
*1x (0/17) [[Spell Research]]: (May have to skip spells a few levels until training points work out)
*1x (0/3) [[Perception]]: take higher at cap (if you can single, go for it, I think you will be strapped for points: You can skip this when you need to)

Total of (/) (need to check this it is not right)

===TWC Ranger Discreet Training===

These values are plateaus you should strive to reach at some point in your career.

*1x (5/0) [[Armor Use]]: (Aurach's goal was 110 ranks for a chain hauberk and then 170 ranks post cap to reduce maneuver penalties in hauberk)
*5 ranks of [[Multi Opponent Combat]] (10/4) as soon as you can fit it in. (30 ranks allows 2 strikes per weapon on a target, 55 ranks allows you to focus mstrike 3 times per weapon on a single target) Reduces effects of being outnumbered.
*50 Ranks in [[Climbing]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make climb checks prior to that.
*50 Ranks in [[Swimming]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make swim checks prior to that.
*[[Spiritual Lore, Blessings]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after Getting 650
*[[Spiritual Lore, Summoning]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after getting 650
(your 1 rank of these two lores gives slight increases in many of your spells, low training point cost boosts, 5 ranks is Blessing lore is very interesting also as it will allow your 117 spirit strike to have a 3% chance to affect two strikes for you being both weapons)

===Spell Research===

My preferred training order: for a two weapon build
601, 101-103, 602-618, 104-107, 619-650, 108-130, Ranger ranks for life 'Aurach Moonshadew'

(other rangers prefer minor spirit 140 and ranger 162 which provides the best CS)

I prefer to get hues, then 101-103, I like having the low mana shield of 102 with this type of character.
After that Mobility is the goal. Then getting deep blues. Then I would head for Aspect.
This is simply my preference looking back on my build.

===Optional Additional Training===

A list of the most common skills to use your additional training points on.

*1x [[Ambush]] when you can fit the ranks in, 1x at cap (more as you feel the need) (I am singled at cap currently and do very well ambushing)
*2x [[Stalking and Hiding]] – If you plan to ambush at cap you will want to 2x this, post cap
*1x-2x [[Survival]] – This will aid skinning, foraging, and overland movement
*1x-2x [[First Aid]] – This will aid in skinning and reduce herb eating RT
*Spiritual Lore: Blessing and Summoning ranger preference, I think it should be gained after ranger spells are maxed, however 5 ranks of blessing lore will allow a 3% chance to have MS117 affect two strikes low chance but is nice when it happens)
*[[Magic Item Use]] I regret not having this 1x earlier. I did it post cap and love it.
*[[Arcane Symbols]] I regret not having this 1x earlier (immediately after MIU).
*15 ranks [[Spiritual Mana Control]] as soon as you learn it is fun to share and play well with others. 15 ranks is enough to share with most Older Spirit mana using folks (25 ranks post cap if you like).

===Post Cap Goals===

*2x Physical Fitness (immediately at cap or earlier)
*2x [[Combat Maneuvers]] (At cap or earlier)
*2x [[Dodge]] (after maxing ranger spells)
*55 ranks [[Multi-Opponent Combat]] for 6 strikes focused on a single target
[[Thrown Weapons]] may be a very interesting post cap goal, since you will throw both weapons and you already have the required support skill ([[TWC]], [[Perception]], Combat Maneuvers)
Blessing Lore
Summoning Lore

'''[[Combat Maneuver]] skills (mine at cap at moment) Post Cap goals:'''
{|{{prettytable}}
|-style = "background:#DDD; color: blue"
!Skill
!Mnemonic
!Ranks
|-align=center
|[[Cunning Defense]]
|cdefense
|5
|-align=center
|[[Combat Movement]]
|cmovement
|5
|-align=center
|[[Hamstring]]
|hamstring
|5
|-align=center
|[[Disarm Weapon]]
|disarm
|5
|-align=center
|[[Shadow Mastery]]
|smastery
|5
|-align=center
|[[Sweep]]
|sweep
|1
|-align=center
|[[Garrote]]
|garrote
|1
|-align=center
|[[Subdual Strike]]
|sstrike
|1
|}

*TWC rangers will find these useful (order of preference for me was Cdefense, Cmovement, Hamstring, Disarm, Smastery)

This is simply how Aurach trained Combat maneuver skills.

==Race==
I would hope race depends largely on the vision you have for your ranger. That being said, Agility and Dexterity are very important to reduce RT. A race that has strength and can manage encumbrance would also be wise.

==What Armor to use?==
Good armor you will need it.

My advice is Double leather, then Brigandine, then hauberk, for Full body coverage. I like the full body coverage as it allows me to wear arm/leg greaves, helm, and aventails, if I choose with no added penalties. I kept my eye out for enhancives on the added armor pieces. Padding crit or damage is always a good choice if you can afford it.

My cap armor is a chain hauberk, with added helm, arm and leg greaves and aventail, it has 11% hinderance. I find the failure acceptable to my style. Some will not. A paladin for fluidity would be fantastic. I also kept training armor to reduce maneuver penalties. Armor skill is also a secondary skill for redux so serves some double duty.

==Keeping your RT manageable==

You will find the links below for Agi/Dex and Two weapon combat RT. The RT is probably the most confusing part of using two weapons. I say this because from time to time, it does not match the documents. Weapon weights, base speed, Agi/Dex, encumberance, and Character strength all affect your RT. (Assume Aspect, Phoen's Strength, Enhancive items, and Wizard strength will be the greatest help here)

To really enjoy and work the two weapon using ranger. You will need to test various combinations of weapons. Early on you might try short sword and gauche for the gauches added DS when used in off hand. Later on perhaps a long sword/short sword when you want to hit harder and keep RT manageable. Too many weapons to list.

==A Rangers Weapon Sets==
There are many weapons to try. Your ranger will have two or possibly three different sets as he heads out on patrol at certain points in thier career. This is where you get to show your rangers individuality.

My carry weapons at cap are: longsword/shortsword set, two hand axe set, and a dagger set. This is not based on min maxing, it is more a collection of style, effectiveness vs heavy armor, and a couple speed weapons for when encumbered by heaps of treasure and skins.

Do not forget to look at blunt weapons if that is more appealing to you.

I can say, that this will be fun. Try all kinds of cheap sets of weapons to get what feels right.
This will evolve as Stats increase, better enhancive items are acquired, and weapon choice vs armor types are considered

So, what feels right now, may change at various training stages and against different types of armor types (critters).

Feras weapons, Flares, Ensorcellment, Weighting (crit and damage) can all boost your effectiveness. You hit twice as often and good combinations of the previous can add great advantages to your ranger.

https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Edged_Weapons
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Roundtime
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat

==TWC Defenses==

'All about that AS that AS , no defense, it's all about the AS'

Ok, so seriously, defenses as a two weapon using ranger. As usual we have some good options available.

'''TWC Parry DS:''' https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat
I cannot explain it better than is listed.

'''Stances:''' No really there are stances other than OFF and DEF. A good understanding of how you can adjust your stance to maintain adequate defense for the current threat and still provide you with enough offensive punch to down your enemies will really help. Your ranger spells have a great variety to help you to do this.

'''TWC Out Right Parry:''' each weapon will provide a 5% chance to parry incoming melee attacks against like level foes in stance offensive (https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Parry) Assume Aspect:Mantis aids nicely with both weapons chances to parry.

'''Bolt Defenses''': Two Weapon Combat style does not offer good bolt defenses (no shield). So, as a ranger we adapt. The ranger spell list and minor spell list will provide a great amount of assistance to our Bolt DS. I would like to focus on those that you can use to finesse things and make your twc ranger even more protected. Minor Spirit Air wall 102, and Fog 106 can be used as well as seeking areas when hunting that provide natural defenses. Your wall of thorns blocking incoming attacks,(later boosted by Aspect Porcupine), and Evasion/dodge (boosted by serpent) however will all aid you greatly. ''Assume Aspect Mantis with a runestaff will parry bolts/arrows as well. (test it)'' Rotating aspects when mana is not the main issue.

'''NOTE: The following Runestaff comments are for much later down the line but am tossing it in here for reference''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying Bolts and arrows. Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This would require a runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider. Test it out if you find the need for more bolt defenses beyond what you get from Wall of Thorns or out right evasion.

'''Evade''' Can be boosted by your Aspect Serpent, I saw a really significant increase here from 21% to 40%.

==runestaff test==
'''NOTE''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying bolts spells, ball spells, and arrows. Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This Would require runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider. Test it out.

An 800 attack test with the mage Drafix's assistance has shown my ranger's wall of thorns stopped about 21% of incoming bolt attacks. 24% were then outright evaded (wearing my hauberk or not wearing it was the same due to armor over training), (this increased to 40% evaded with Aspect Serpent running) and then after that 7% were blocked by the runestaff. Giving an over all total of 51%+ to 67% stopped/evaded/parried.

Also, the % was based on bolt spell by like level caster. I believe the Ball spells and Arrows the % to parry are different. And did not do a deep test of those at this time.

The rune staff below is +8 deringo. (a staff with eblade on it would cost next to nothing) (test for this posting was 8 of 20 and 10 of 27) using mantis against ball spells

''Sepher gestures at you''.

Sepher hurls a roaring ball of fire at you!

You deflect the bolt with your runestaff!

''Sepher nocks a dull black wooden arrow fletched with white-spotted falcon feathers in his sephwir long bow.'' (10/35 against arrows)

Sepher fires a dull black arrow at you!

You deflect the arrow with your runestaff!

The arrow disappears into the local environs.

Now I certainly do not expect everyone using TWC to invest in runestaves. But please remember that was 7% of the over all total attacks, not the ones that got past wall of thorns or were evaded outright) the runestaff seemed to parry about 11% of the bolts it had a chance to parry. So, if bolts become an issue, it is something to consider since you do have magical training as a semi and have a Bolt Weakness using Two weapons. You could also pick up a shield and train it, but the magical skills you have most likely have already trained in.

==Society==

(Anyone want to toss in pro-cons please do so)

Aurach is a member of Voln. Two Weapons against the many non-critable undead has worked rather well.

==See Also==
*[[Ranger]] (main article)
*[[A beginner's guide to playing a ranger]]
http://www.play.net/gs4/info/skills.asp#twoweaponcombat
Evade
Parry

==References==
*[http://www.play.net/gs4/info/professions/rangers.asp Ranger profession on Play.net]

{{stub}}
[[Category:Guides]]
[[Category:Ranger]]
[[Category:Professional Guides]]

Aurach's Two Weapon Combat Guide: A Ranger's Perspective

2015-02-19T20:07:44Z

SHEN1: /* Optional Additional Training */

{{Work-in-progress}}

==The Two Weapon Combat Ranger==
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/File:Twcranger.jpg (need to add this in off to side at some point visibly)

Observations on the style

==Why two weapons?==

Most ambushing rangers and archers can kill with one well placed strike. So too can the two weapon ambushing ranger, but the world has creatures that cannot be critical struck and only massive raw damage will suffice.

Enter our ranger hero, weapon in each hand, spell at the ready. 'Guts, 'glory, 'Aspects'

For me the style has always been about using your magics and blades together. This is really not a stand in the open and get beat on type of style. You can do that however. I prefer the use of good timing, and a rather large variety of spells to maneuver your opponents into situations favorable to you.

Your greatest strength is your variety of magics, combat maneuver skills, and weapons combined.

From the skills and stats a Ranger can be a very good two weapon user. Great spirit warding, good variety of spells, low costs to train a variety of skills, some of the best attack spells for a semi, great defensive spells all make for a really versatile and easily adjustable character.

While not recommended to try from early on, this style when combined with ambushing and Multi Opponent Combat is absolutely devastating.

==Ranger Spells==
The ranger spell list provides some unique benefits for TWC rangers, both directly and indirectly.

[[606|Phoen's strength (606)]] gives a phantom increase of +10 to [[Strength|strength]] bonus. Strength is incredibly important to keep RT down (encumbrance really affects the left hand weapon).

[[Mobility (618)]] offers a large bonus to Dodge, a TWC rangers primary defense

[[Camouflage (608)]] a +30 AS bonus from camouflage for multiple attacks. Yes both weapons get the bonus from a ranger leaping to ambush or 'plain attacking' from a camo 608 position, so this can be used by non ambusher for the boost if your quick, so you at least get the +30 AS bonus.

[[Wall of Thorns (640)]] of great assistance to a TWC ranger, the best defense is having the trees block for you and not getting hit at all.

[[650|Assume aspect (650)]] is custom made for a TWC ranger, allowing you to tweak your form to meet the current threat or boost a weakness. (alternating between rat and wolf for example maintains a boost to your agi/dex)

All Rangers also benefit from a plethora of set up spells that can complement any weapon style, such as [[Sounds (607)]], [[610|Tangle weed (610)]] , [[Call Swarm (615)]] and Sunburst (609) (note the effects vs undead)

TWC rangers will find great use in the [[Minor Spiritual]] spell circle, especially [[Spirit Barrier (102)]] and [[106|Spirit fog (106)]], to provide added defenses. Note that 102 gives a penalty to [[Attack strength|AS]] so you could [[STOP (verb)|STOP 102]], which removes the spell so you can attack without the penalty making for a creative low mana Shield/stance dance option, also breeze will eliminate 106, however that is mana intensive.

==Two Weapon Combat Training==
The introduction of Fix skills and Fix Stats, will allows new rangers to tweak their efforts with great ease. I suggest Maintain your core training, finesse skills/Stats as starting Stats have increased and allow you to gain more your training points while boosting over all stat totals. (this is an entire topic all it's own) (word smith this it isn't sounding right)

===Two Weapon Combat Ranger Core Training===

This is your base training that every two weapon ranger should have each level.

*2x (6/4) [[Combat Maneuvers]]:
*2x (3/2) [[Two Weapon Combat]]:
*2x (3/1) [[Edged Weapons]] (Blunt weapons can be used, slightly increased training cost, do not over look this if it appeals to your style of ranger)
*1x (4/0) [[Physical Fitness]]: (2x as soon as points are available, no shield, you will be getting hit, you need this)
*1x (7/5) [[Dodge]]
*1x (0/5) [[Harness Power]]
*1x (0/17) [[Spell Research]]: (May have to skip spells a few levels until training points work out)
*1x (0/3) [[Perception]]: take higher at cap (if you can single, go for it, I think you will be strapped for points: You can skip this when you need to)

Total of (/) (need to check this it is not right)

===TWC Ranger Discreet Training===

These values are plateaus you should strive to reach at some point in your career.

*1x (5/0) [[Armor Use]]: (Aurach's goal was 110 ranks for a chain hauberk and then 170 ranks post cap to reduce maneuver penalties in hauberk)
*5 ranks of [[Multi Opponent Combat]] (10/4) as soon as you can fit it in. (30 ranks allows 2 strikes per weapon on a target, 55 ranks allows you to focus mstrike 3 times per weapon on a single target) Reduces effects of being outnumbered.
*50 Ranks in [[Climbing]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make climb checks prior to that.
*50 Ranks in [[Swimming]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make swim checks prior to that.
*[[Spiritual Lore, Blessings]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after Getting 650
*[[Spiritual Lore, Summoning]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after getting 650
(your 1 rank of these two lores gives slight increases in many of your spells, low training point cost boosts)

===Spell Research===

My preferred training order: for a two weapon build
601, 101-103, 602-618, 104-107, 619-650, 108-130, Ranger ranks for life 'Aurach Moonshadew'

(other rangers prefer minor spirit 140 and ranger 162 which provides the best CS)

I prefer to get hues, then 101-103, I like having the low mana shield of 102 with this type of character.
After that Mobility is the goal. Then getting deep blues. Then I would head for Aspect.
This is simply my preference looking back on my build.

===Optional Additional Training===

A list of the most common skills to use your additional training points on.

*1x [[Ambush]] when you can fit the ranks in, 1x at cap (more as you feel the need) (I am singled at cap currently and do very well ambushing)
*2x [[Stalking and Hiding]] – If you plan to ambush at cap you will want to 2x this, post cap
*1x-2x [[Survival]] – This will aid skinning, foraging, and overland movement
*1x-2x [[First Aid]] – This will aid in skinning and reduce herb eating RT
*Spiritual Lore: Blessing and Summoning ranger preference, I think it should be gained after ranger spells are maxed, however 5 ranks of blessing lore will allow a 3% chance to have MS117 affect two strikes low chance but is nice when it happens)
*[[Magic Item Use]] I regret not having this 1x earlier. I did it post cap and love it.
*[[Arcane Symbols]] I regret not having this 1x earlier (immediately after MIU).
*15 ranks [[Spiritual Mana Control]] as soon as you learn it is fun to share and play well with others. 15 ranks is enough to share with most Older Spirit mana using folks (25 ranks post cap if you like).

===Post Cap Goals===

*2x Physical Fitness (immediately at cap or earlier)
*2x [[Combat Maneuvers]] (At cap or earlier)
*2x [[Dodge]] (after maxing ranger spells)
*55 ranks [[Multi-Opponent Combat]] for 6 strikes focused on a single target
[[Thrown Weapons]] may be a very interesting post cap goal, since you will throw both weapons and you already have the required support skill ([[TWC]], [[Perception]], Combat Maneuvers)
Blessing Lore
Summoning Lore

'''[[Combat Maneuver]] skills (mine at cap at moment) Post Cap goals:'''
{|{{prettytable}}
|-style = "background:#DDD; color: blue"
!Skill
!Mnemonic
!Ranks
|-align=center
|[[Cunning Defense]]
|cdefense
|5
|-align=center
|[[Combat Movement]]
|cmovement
|5
|-align=center
|[[Hamstring]]
|hamstring
|5
|-align=center
|[[Disarm Weapon]]
|disarm
|5
|-align=center
|[[Shadow Mastery]]
|smastery
|5
|-align=center
|[[Sweep]]
|sweep
|1
|-align=center
|[[Garrote]]
|garrote
|1
|-align=center
|[[Subdual Strike]]
|sstrike
|1
|}

*TWC rangers will find these useful (order of preference for me was Cdefense, Cmovement, Hamstring, Disarm, Smastery)

This is simply how Aurach trained Combat maneuver skills.

==Race==
I would hope race depends largely on the vision you have for your ranger. That being said, Agility and Dexterity are very important to reduce RT. A race that has strength and can manage encumbrance would also be wise.

==What Armor to use?==
Good armor you will need it.

My advice is Double leather, then Brigandine, then hauberk, for Full body coverage. I like the full body coverage as it allows me to wear arm/leg greaves, helm, and aventails, if I choose with no added penalties. I kept my eye out for enhancives on the added armor pieces. Padding crit or damage is always a good choice if you can afford it.

My cap armor is a chain hauberk, with added helm, arm and leg greaves and aventail, it has 11% hinderance. I find the failure acceptable to my style. Some will not. A paladin for fluidity would be fantastic. I also kept training armor to reduce maneuver penalties. Armor skill is also a secondary skill for redux so serves some double duty.

==Keeping your RT manageable==

You will find the links below for Agi/Dex and Two weapon combat RT. The RT is probably the most confusing part of using two weapons. I say this because from time to time, it does not match the documents. Weapon weights, base speed, Agi/Dex, encumberance, and Character strength all affect your RT. (Assume Aspect, Phoen's Strength, Enhancive items, and Wizard strength will be the greatest help here)

To really enjoy and work the two weapon using ranger. You will need to test various combinations of weapons. Early on you might try short sword and gauche for the gauches added DS when used in off hand. Later on perhaps a long sword/short sword when you want to hit harder and keep RT manageable. Too many weapons to list.

==A Rangers Weapon Sets==
There are many weapons to try. Your ranger will have two or possibly three different sets as he heads out on patrol at certain points in thier career. This is where you get to show your rangers individuality.

My carry weapons at cap are: longsword/shortsword set, two hand axe set, and a dagger set. This is not based on min maxing, it is more a collection of style, effectiveness vs heavy armor, and a couple speed weapons for when encumbered by heaps of treasure and skins.

Do not forget to look at blunt weapons if that is more appealing to you.

I can say, that this will be fun. Try all kinds of cheap sets of weapons to get what feels right.
This will evolve as Stats increase, better enhancive items are acquired, and weapon choice vs armor types are considered

So, what feels right now, may change at various training stages and against different types of armor types (critters).

Feras weapons, Flares, Ensorcellment, Weighting (crit and damage) can all boost your effectiveness. You hit twice as often and good combinations of the previous can add great advantages to your ranger.

https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Edged_Weapons
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Roundtime
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat

==TWC Defenses==

'All about that AS that AS , no defense, it's all about the AS'

Ok, so seriously, defenses as a two weapon using ranger. As usual we have some good options available.

'''TWC Parry DS:''' https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat
I cannot explain it better than is listed.

'''Stances:''' No really there are stances other than OFF and DEF. A good understanding of how you can adjust your stance to maintain adequate defense for the current threat and still provide you with enough offensive punch to down your enemies will really help. Your ranger spells have a great variety to help you to do this.

'''TWC Out Right Parry:''' each weapon will provide a 5% chance to parry incoming melee attacks against like level foes in stance offensive (https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Parry) Assume Aspect:Mantis aids nicely with both weapons chances to parry.

'''Bolt Defenses''': Two Weapon Combat style does not offer good bolt defenses (no shield). So, as a ranger we adapt. The ranger spell list and minor spell list will provide a great amount of assistance to our Bolt DS. I would like to focus on those that you can use to finesse things and make your twc ranger even more protected. Minor Spirit Air wall 102, and Fog 106 can be used as well as seeking areas when hunting that provide natural defenses. Your wall of thorns blocking incoming attacks,(later boosted by Aspect Porcupine), and Evasion/dodge (boosted by serpent) however will all aid you greatly. ''Assume Aspect Mantis with a runestaff will parry bolts/arrows as well. (test it)'' Rotating aspects when mana is not the main issue.

'''NOTE: The following Runestaff comments are for much later down the line but am tossing it in here for reference''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying Bolts and arrows. Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This would require a runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider. Test it out if you find the need for more bolt defenses beyond what you get from Wall of Thorns or out right evasion.

'''Evade''' Can be boosted by your Aspect Serpent, I saw a really significant increase here from 21% to 40%.

==runestaff test==
'''NOTE''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying bolts spells, ball spells, and arrows. Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This Would require runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider. Test it out.

An 800 attack test with the mage Drafix's assistance has shown my ranger's wall of thorns stopped about 21% of incoming bolt attacks. 24% were then outright evaded (wearing my hauberk or not wearing it was the same due to armor over training), (this increased to 40% evaded with Aspect Serpent running) and then after that 7% were blocked by the runestaff. Giving an over all total of 51%+ to 67% stopped/evaded/parried.

Also, the % was based on bolt spell by like level caster. I believe the Ball spells and Arrows the % to parry are different. And did not do a deep test of those at this time.

The rune staff below is +8 deringo. (a staff with eblade on it would cost next to nothing) (test for this posting was 8 of 20 and 10 of 27) using mantis against ball spells

''Sepher gestures at you''.

Sepher hurls a roaring ball of fire at you!

You deflect the bolt with your runestaff!

''Sepher nocks a dull black wooden arrow fletched with white-spotted falcon feathers in his sephwir long bow.'' (10/35 against arrows)

Sepher fires a dull black arrow at you!

You deflect the arrow with your runestaff!

The arrow disappears into the local environs.

Now I certainly do not expect everyone using TWC to invest in runestaves. But please remember that was 7% of the over all total attacks, not the ones that got past wall of thorns or were evaded outright) the runestaff seemed to parry about 11% of the bolts it had a chance to parry. So, if bolts become an issue, it is something to consider since you do have magical training as a semi and have a Bolt Weakness using Two weapons. You could also pick up a shield and train it, but the magical skills you have most likely have already trained in.

==Society==

(Anyone want to toss in pro-cons please do so)

Aurach is a member of Voln. Two Weapons against the many non-critable undead has worked rather well.

==See Also==
*[[Ranger]] (main article)
*[[A beginner's guide to playing a ranger]]
http://www.play.net/gs4/info/skills.asp#twoweaponcombat
Evade
Parry

==References==
*[http://www.play.net/gs4/info/professions/rangers.asp Ranger profession on Play.net]

{{stub}}
[[Category:Guides]]
[[Category:Ranger]]
[[Category:Professional Guides]]

Aurach's Two Weapon Combat Guide: A Ranger's Perspective

2015-02-19T20:03:56Z

SHEN1: /* Post Cap Goals */

{{Work-in-progress}}

==The Two Weapon Combat Ranger==
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/File:Twcranger.jpg (need to add this in off to side at some point visibly)

Observations on the style

==Why two weapons?==

Most ambushing rangers and archers can kill with one well placed strike. So too can the two weapon ambushing ranger, but the world has creatures that cannot be critical struck and only massive raw damage will suffice.

Enter our ranger hero, weapon in each hand, spell at the ready. 'Guts, 'glory, 'Aspects'

For me the style has always been about using your magics and blades together. This is really not a stand in the open and get beat on type of style. You can do that however. I prefer the use of good timing, and a rather large variety of spells to maneuver your opponents into situations favorable to you.

Your greatest strength is your variety of magics, combat maneuver skills, and weapons combined.

From the skills and stats a Ranger can be a very good two weapon user. Great spirit warding, good variety of spells, low costs to train a variety of skills, some of the best attack spells for a semi, great defensive spells all make for a really versatile and easily adjustable character.

While not recommended to try from early on, this style when combined with ambushing and Multi Opponent Combat is absolutely devastating.

==Ranger Spells==
The ranger spell list provides some unique benefits for TWC rangers, both directly and indirectly.

[[606|Phoen's strength (606)]] gives a phantom increase of +10 to [[Strength|strength]] bonus. Strength is incredibly important to keep RT down (encumbrance really affects the left hand weapon).

[[Mobility (618)]] offers a large bonus to Dodge, a TWC rangers primary defense

[[Camouflage (608)]] a +30 AS bonus from camouflage for multiple attacks. Yes both weapons get the bonus from a ranger leaping to ambush or 'plain attacking' from a camo 608 position, so this can be used by non ambusher for the boost if your quick, so you at least get the +30 AS bonus.

[[Wall of Thorns (640)]] of great assistance to a TWC ranger, the best defense is having the trees block for you and not getting hit at all.

[[650|Assume aspect (650)]] is custom made for a TWC ranger, allowing you to tweak your form to meet the current threat or boost a weakness. (alternating between rat and wolf for example maintains a boost to your agi/dex)

All Rangers also benefit from a plethora of set up spells that can complement any weapon style, such as [[Sounds (607)]], [[610|Tangle weed (610)]] , [[Call Swarm (615)]] and Sunburst (609) (note the effects vs undead)

TWC rangers will find great use in the [[Minor Spiritual]] spell circle, especially [[Spirit Barrier (102)]] and [[106|Spirit fog (106)]], to provide added defenses. Note that 102 gives a penalty to [[Attack strength|AS]] so you could [[STOP (verb)|STOP 102]], which removes the spell so you can attack without the penalty making for a creative low mana Shield/stance dance option, also breeze will eliminate 106, however that is mana intensive.

==Two Weapon Combat Training==
The introduction of Fix skills and Fix Stats, will allows new rangers to tweak their efforts with great ease. I suggest Maintain your core training, finesse skills/Stats as starting Stats have increased and allow you to gain more your training points while boosting over all stat totals. (this is an entire topic all it's own) (word smith this it isn't sounding right)

===Two Weapon Combat Ranger Core Training===

This is your base training that every two weapon ranger should have each level.

*2x (6/4) [[Combat Maneuvers]]:
*2x (3/2) [[Two Weapon Combat]]:
*2x (3/1) [[Edged Weapons]] (Blunt weapons can be used, slightly increased training cost, do not over look this if it appeals to your style of ranger)
*1x (4/0) [[Physical Fitness]]: (2x as soon as points are available, no shield, you will be getting hit, you need this)
*1x (7/5) [[Dodge]]
*1x (0/5) [[Harness Power]]
*1x (0/17) [[Spell Research]]: (May have to skip spells a few levels until training points work out)
*1x (0/3) [[Perception]]: take higher at cap (if you can single, go for it, I think you will be strapped for points: You can skip this when you need to)

Total of (/) (need to check this it is not right)

===TWC Ranger Discreet Training===

These values are plateaus you should strive to reach at some point in your career.

*1x (5/0) [[Armor Use]]: (Aurach's goal was 110 ranks for a chain hauberk and then 170 ranks post cap to reduce maneuver penalties in hauberk)
*5 ranks of [[Multi Opponent Combat]] (10/4) as soon as you can fit it in. (30 ranks allows 2 strikes per weapon on a target, 55 ranks allows you to focus mstrike 3 times per weapon on a single target) Reduces effects of being outnumbered.
*50 Ranks in [[Climbing]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make climb checks prior to that.
*50 Ranks in [[Swimming]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make swim checks prior to that.
*[[Spiritual Lore, Blessings]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after Getting 650
*[[Spiritual Lore, Summoning]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after getting 650
(your 1 rank of these two lores gives slight increases in many of your spells, low training point cost boosts)

===Spell Research===

My preferred training order: for a two weapon build
601, 101-103, 602-618, 104-107, 619-650, 108-130, Ranger ranks for life 'Aurach Moonshadew'

(other rangers prefer minor spirit 140 and ranger 162 which provides the best CS)

I prefer to get hues, then 101-103, I like having the low mana shield of 102 with this type of character.
After that Mobility is the goal. Then getting deep blues. Then I would head for Aspect.
This is simply my preference looking back on my build.

===Optional Additional Training===

A list of the most common skills to use your additional training points on.

*1x [[Ambush]] when you can fit the ranks in, 1x at cap (more as you feel the need) (I am singled at cap currently and do very well ambushing)
*2x [[Stalking and Hiding]] – If you plan to ambush at cap you will want to 2x this, post cap
*1x-2x [[Survival]] – This will aid skinning, foraging, and overland movement
*1x-2x [[First Aid]] – This will aid in skinning and reduce herb eating RT
*Spiritual Lore: Blessing and Summoning ranger preference, I think it should be gained after ranger spells are maxed
*[[Magic Item Use]] I regret not having this 1x earlier. I did it post cap and love it.
*[[Arcane Symbols]] I regret not having this 1x earlier (immediately after MIU).
*15 ranks [[Spiritual Mana Control]] as soon as you learn it is fun to share and play well with others. 15 ranks is enough to share with most Older Spirit mana using folks (25 ranks post cap if you like).

===Post Cap Goals===

*2x Physical Fitness (immediately at cap or earlier)
*2x [[Combat Maneuvers]] (At cap or earlier)
*2x [[Dodge]] (after maxing ranger spells)
*55 ranks [[Multi-Opponent Combat]] for 6 strikes focused on a single target
[[Thrown Weapons]] may be a very interesting post cap goal, since you will throw both weapons and you already have the required support skill ([[TWC]], [[Perception]], Combat Maneuvers)
Blessing Lore
Summoning Lore

'''[[Combat Maneuver]] skills (mine at cap at moment) Post Cap goals:'''
{|{{prettytable}}
|-style = "background:#DDD; color: blue"
!Skill
!Mnemonic
!Ranks
|-align=center
|[[Cunning Defense]]
|cdefense
|5
|-align=center
|[[Combat Movement]]
|cmovement
|5
|-align=center
|[[Hamstring]]
|hamstring
|5
|-align=center
|[[Disarm Weapon]]
|disarm
|5
|-align=center
|[[Shadow Mastery]]
|smastery
|5
|-align=center
|[[Sweep]]
|sweep
|1
|-align=center
|[[Garrote]]
|garrote
|1
|-align=center
|[[Subdual Strike]]
|sstrike
|1
|}

*TWC rangers will find these useful (order of preference for me was Cdefense, Cmovement, Hamstring, Disarm, Smastery)

This is simply how Aurach trained Combat maneuver skills.

==Race==
I would hope race depends largely on the vision you have for your ranger. That being said, Agility and Dexterity are very important to reduce RT. A race that has strength and can manage encumbrance would also be wise.

==What Armor to use?==
Good armor you will need it.

My advice is Double leather, then Brigandine, then hauberk, for Full body coverage. I like the full body coverage as it allows me to wear arm/leg greaves, helm, and aventails, if I choose with no added penalties. I kept my eye out for enhancives on the added armor pieces. Padding crit or damage is always a good choice if you can afford it.

My cap armor is a chain hauberk, with added helm, arm and leg greaves and aventail, it has 11% hinderance. I find the failure acceptable to my style. Some will not. A paladin for fluidity would be fantastic. I also kept training armor to reduce maneuver penalties. Armor skill is also a secondary skill for redux so serves some double duty.

==Keeping your RT manageable==

You will find the links below for Agi/Dex and Two weapon combat RT. The RT is probably the most confusing part of using two weapons. I say this because from time to time, it does not match the documents. Weapon weights, base speed, Agi/Dex, encumberance, and Character strength all affect your RT. (Assume Aspect, Phoen's Strength, Enhancive items, and Wizard strength will be the greatest help here)

To really enjoy and work the two weapon using ranger. You will need to test various combinations of weapons. Early on you might try short sword and gauche for the gauches added DS when used in off hand. Later on perhaps a long sword/short sword when you want to hit harder and keep RT manageable. Too many weapons to list.

==A Rangers Weapon Sets==
There are many weapons to try. Your ranger will have two or possibly three different sets as he heads out on patrol at certain points in thier career. This is where you get to show your rangers individuality.

My carry weapons at cap are: longsword/shortsword set, two hand axe set, and a dagger set. This is not based on min maxing, it is more a collection of style, effectiveness vs heavy armor, and a couple speed weapons for when encumbered by heaps of treasure and skins.

Do not forget to look at blunt weapons if that is more appealing to you.

I can say, that this will be fun. Try all kinds of cheap sets of weapons to get what feels right.
This will evolve as Stats increase, better enhancive items are acquired, and weapon choice vs armor types are considered

So, what feels right now, may change at various training stages and against different types of armor types (critters).

Feras weapons, Flares, Ensorcellment, Weighting (crit and damage) can all boost your effectiveness. You hit twice as often and good combinations of the previous can add great advantages to your ranger.

https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Edged_Weapons
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Roundtime
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat

==TWC Defenses==

'All about that AS that AS , no defense, it's all about the AS'

Ok, so seriously, defenses as a two weapon using ranger. As usual we have some good options available.

'''TWC Parry DS:''' https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat
I cannot explain it better than is listed.

'''Stances:''' No really there are stances other than OFF and DEF. A good understanding of how you can adjust your stance to maintain adequate defense for the current threat and still provide you with enough offensive punch to down your enemies will really help. Your ranger spells have a great variety to help you to do this.

'''TWC Out Right Parry:''' each weapon will provide a 5% chance to parry incoming melee attacks against like level foes in stance offensive (https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Parry) Assume Aspect:Mantis aids nicely with both weapons chances to parry.

'''Bolt Defenses''': Two Weapon Combat style does not offer good bolt defenses (no shield). So, as a ranger we adapt. The ranger spell list and minor spell list will provide a great amount of assistance to our Bolt DS. I would like to focus on those that you can use to finesse things and make your twc ranger even more protected. Minor Spirit Air wall 102, and Fog 106 can be used as well as seeking areas when hunting that provide natural defenses. Your wall of thorns blocking incoming attacks,(later boosted by Aspect Porcupine), and Evasion/dodge (boosted by serpent) however will all aid you greatly. ''Assume Aspect Mantis with a runestaff will parry bolts/arrows as well. (test it)'' Rotating aspects when mana is not the main issue.

'''NOTE: The following Runestaff comments are for much later down the line but am tossing it in here for reference''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying Bolts and arrows. Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This would require a runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider. Test it out if you find the need for more bolt defenses beyond what you get from Wall of Thorns or out right evasion.

'''Evade''' Can be boosted by your Aspect Serpent, I saw a really significant increase here from 21% to 40%.

==runestaff test==
'''NOTE''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying bolts spells, ball spells, and arrows. Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This Would require runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider. Test it out.

An 800 attack test with the mage Drafix's assistance has shown my ranger's wall of thorns stopped about 21% of incoming bolt attacks. 24% were then outright evaded (wearing my hauberk or not wearing it was the same due to armor over training), (this increased to 40% evaded with Aspect Serpent running) and then after that 7% were blocked by the runestaff. Giving an over all total of 51%+ to 67% stopped/evaded/parried.

Also, the % was based on bolt spell by like level caster. I believe the Ball spells and Arrows the % to parry are different. And did not do a deep test of those at this time.

The rune staff below is +8 deringo. (a staff with eblade on it would cost next to nothing) (test for this posting was 8 of 20 and 10 of 27) using mantis against ball spells

''Sepher gestures at you''.

Sepher hurls a roaring ball of fire at you!

You deflect the bolt with your runestaff!

''Sepher nocks a dull black wooden arrow fletched with white-spotted falcon feathers in his sephwir long bow.'' (10/35 against arrows)

Sepher fires a dull black arrow at you!

You deflect the arrow with your runestaff!

The arrow disappears into the local environs.

Now I certainly do not expect everyone using TWC to invest in runestaves. But please remember that was 7% of the over all total attacks, not the ones that got past wall of thorns or were evaded outright) the runestaff seemed to parry about 11% of the bolts it had a chance to parry. So, if bolts become an issue, it is something to consider since you do have magical training as a semi and have a Bolt Weakness using Two weapons. You could also pick up a shield and train it, but the magical skills you have most likely have already trained in.

==Society==

(Anyone want to toss in pro-cons please do so)

Aurach is a member of Voln. Two Weapons against the many non-critable undead has worked rather well.

==See Also==
*[[Ranger]] (main article)
*[[A beginner's guide to playing a ranger]]
http://www.play.net/gs4/info/skills.asp#twoweaponcombat
Evade
Parry

==References==
*[http://www.play.net/gs4/info/professions/rangers.asp Ranger profession on Play.net]

{{stub}}
[[Category:Guides]]
[[Category:Ranger]]
[[Category:Professional Guides]]

Aurach's Two Weapon Combat Guide: A Ranger's Perspective

2015-02-19T20:03:07Z

SHEN1: /* TWC Ranger Discreet Training */

{{Work-in-progress}}

==The Two Weapon Combat Ranger==
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/File:Twcranger.jpg (need to add this in off to side at some point visibly)

Observations on the style

==Why two weapons?==

Most ambushing rangers and archers can kill with one well placed strike. So too can the two weapon ambushing ranger, but the world has creatures that cannot be critical struck and only massive raw damage will suffice.

Enter our ranger hero, weapon in each hand, spell at the ready. 'Guts, 'glory, 'Aspects'

For me the style has always been about using your magics and blades together. This is really not a stand in the open and get beat on type of style. You can do that however. I prefer the use of good timing, and a rather large variety of spells to maneuver your opponents into situations favorable to you.

Your greatest strength is your variety of magics, combat maneuver skills, and weapons combined.

From the skills and stats a Ranger can be a very good two weapon user. Great spirit warding, good variety of spells, low costs to train a variety of skills, some of the best attack spells for a semi, great defensive spells all make for a really versatile and easily adjustable character.

While not recommended to try from early on, this style when combined with ambushing and Multi Opponent Combat is absolutely devastating.

==Ranger Spells==
The ranger spell list provides some unique benefits for TWC rangers, both directly and indirectly.

[[606|Phoen's strength (606)]] gives a phantom increase of +10 to [[Strength|strength]] bonus. Strength is incredibly important to keep RT down (encumbrance really affects the left hand weapon).

[[Mobility (618)]] offers a large bonus to Dodge, a TWC rangers primary defense

[[Camouflage (608)]] a +30 AS bonus from camouflage for multiple attacks. Yes both weapons get the bonus from a ranger leaping to ambush or 'plain attacking' from a camo 608 position, so this can be used by non ambusher for the boost if your quick, so you at least get the +30 AS bonus.

[[Wall of Thorns (640)]] of great assistance to a TWC ranger, the best defense is having the trees block for you and not getting hit at all.

[[650|Assume aspect (650)]] is custom made for a TWC ranger, allowing you to tweak your form to meet the current threat or boost a weakness. (alternating between rat and wolf for example maintains a boost to your agi/dex)

All Rangers also benefit from a plethora of set up spells that can complement any weapon style, such as [[Sounds (607)]], [[610|Tangle weed (610)]] , [[Call Swarm (615)]] and Sunburst (609) (note the effects vs undead)

TWC rangers will find great use in the [[Minor Spiritual]] spell circle, especially [[Spirit Barrier (102)]] and [[106|Spirit fog (106)]], to provide added defenses. Note that 102 gives a penalty to [[Attack strength|AS]] so you could [[STOP (verb)|STOP 102]], which removes the spell so you can attack without the penalty making for a creative low mana Shield/stance dance option, also breeze will eliminate 106, however that is mana intensive.

==Two Weapon Combat Training==
The introduction of Fix skills and Fix Stats, will allows new rangers to tweak their efforts with great ease. I suggest Maintain your core training, finesse skills/Stats as starting Stats have increased and allow you to gain more your training points while boosting over all stat totals. (this is an entire topic all it's own) (word smith this it isn't sounding right)

===Two Weapon Combat Ranger Core Training===

This is your base training that every two weapon ranger should have each level.

*2x (6/4) [[Combat Maneuvers]]:
*2x (3/2) [[Two Weapon Combat]]:
*2x (3/1) [[Edged Weapons]] (Blunt weapons can be used, slightly increased training cost, do not over look this if it appeals to your style of ranger)
*1x (4/0) [[Physical Fitness]]: (2x as soon as points are available, no shield, you will be getting hit, you need this)
*1x (7/5) [[Dodge]]
*1x (0/5) [[Harness Power]]
*1x (0/17) [[Spell Research]]: (May have to skip spells a few levels until training points work out)
*1x (0/3) [[Perception]]: take higher at cap (if you can single, go for it, I think you will be strapped for points: You can skip this when you need to)

Total of (/) (need to check this it is not right)

===TWC Ranger Discreet Training===

These values are plateaus you should strive to reach at some point in your career.

*1x (5/0) [[Armor Use]]: (Aurach's goal was 110 ranks for a chain hauberk and then 170 ranks post cap to reduce maneuver penalties in hauberk)
*5 ranks of [[Multi Opponent Combat]] (10/4) as soon as you can fit it in. (30 ranks allows 2 strikes per weapon on a target, 55 ranks allows you to focus mstrike 3 times per weapon on a single target) Reduces effects of being outnumbered.
*50 Ranks in [[Climbing]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make climb checks prior to that.
*50 Ranks in [[Swimming]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make swim checks prior to that.
*[[Spiritual Lore, Blessings]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after Getting 650
*[[Spiritual Lore, Summoning]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after getting 650
(your 1 rank of these two lores gives slight increases in many of your spells, low training point cost boosts)

===Spell Research===

My preferred training order: for a two weapon build
601, 101-103, 602-618, 104-107, 619-650, 108-130, Ranger ranks for life 'Aurach Moonshadew'

(other rangers prefer minor spirit 140 and ranger 162 which provides the best CS)

I prefer to get hues, then 101-103, I like having the low mana shield of 102 with this type of character.
After that Mobility is the goal. Then getting deep blues. Then I would head for Aspect.
This is simply my preference looking back on my build.

===Optional Additional Training===

A list of the most common skills to use your additional training points on.

*1x [[Ambush]] when you can fit the ranks in, 1x at cap (more as you feel the need) (I am singled at cap currently and do very well ambushing)
*2x [[Stalking and Hiding]] – If you plan to ambush at cap you will want to 2x this, post cap
*1x-2x [[Survival]] – This will aid skinning, foraging, and overland movement
*1x-2x [[First Aid]] – This will aid in skinning and reduce herb eating RT
*Spiritual Lore: Blessing and Summoning ranger preference, I think it should be gained after ranger spells are maxed
*[[Magic Item Use]] I regret not having this 1x earlier. I did it post cap and love it.
*[[Arcane Symbols]] I regret not having this 1x earlier (immediately after MIU).
*15 ranks [[Spiritual Mana Control]] as soon as you learn it is fun to share and play well with others. 15 ranks is enough to share with most Older Spirit mana using folks (25 ranks post cap if you like).

===Post Cap Goals===

*2x Physical Fitness (immediately at cap or earlier)
*2x [[Combat Maneuvers]] (At cap or earlier)
*2x [[Dodge]] (after maxing ranger spells)
*55 ranks [[Multi-Opponent Combat]] for 6 strikes focused on a single target
[[Thrown Weapons]] may be a very interesting post cap goal, since you will throw both weapons and you already have the required support skill ([[TWC]], [[Perception]], Combat Maneuvers)

'''[[Combat Maneuver]] skills (mine at cap at moment) Post Cap goals:'''
{|{{prettytable}}
|-style = "background:#DDD; color: blue"
!Skill
!Mnemonic
!Ranks
|-align=center
|[[Cunning Defense]]
|cdefense
|5
|-align=center
|[[Combat Movement]]
|cmovement
|5
|-align=center
|[[Hamstring]]
|hamstring
|5
|-align=center
|[[Disarm Weapon]]
|disarm
|5
|-align=center
|[[Shadow Mastery]]
|smastery
|5
|-align=center
|[[Sweep]]
|sweep
|1
|-align=center
|[[Garrote]]
|garrote
|1
|-align=center
|[[Subdual Strike]]
|sstrike
|1
|}

*TWC rangers will find these useful (order of preference for me was Cdefense, Cmovement, Hamstring, Disarm, Smastery)

This is simply how Aurach trained Combat maneuver skills.

==Race==
I would hope race depends largely on the vision you have for your ranger. That being said, Agility and Dexterity are very important to reduce RT. A race that has strength and can manage encumbrance would also be wise.

==What Armor to use?==
Good armor you will need it.

My advice is Double leather, then Brigandine, then hauberk, for Full body coverage. I like the full body coverage as it allows me to wear arm/leg greaves, helm, and aventails, if I choose with no added penalties. I kept my eye out for enhancives on the added armor pieces. Padding crit or damage is always a good choice if you can afford it.

My cap armor is a chain hauberk, with added helm, arm and leg greaves and aventail, it has 11% hinderance. I find the failure acceptable to my style. Some will not. A paladin for fluidity would be fantastic. I also kept training armor to reduce maneuver penalties. Armor skill is also a secondary skill for redux so serves some double duty.

==Keeping your RT manageable==

You will find the links below for Agi/Dex and Two weapon combat RT. The RT is probably the most confusing part of using two weapons. I say this because from time to time, it does not match the documents. Weapon weights, base speed, Agi/Dex, encumberance, and Character strength all affect your RT. (Assume Aspect, Phoen's Strength, Enhancive items, and Wizard strength will be the greatest help here)

To really enjoy and work the two weapon using ranger. You will need to test various combinations of weapons. Early on you might try short sword and gauche for the gauches added DS when used in off hand. Later on perhaps a long sword/short sword when you want to hit harder and keep RT manageable. Too many weapons to list.

==A Rangers Weapon Sets==
There are many weapons to try. Your ranger will have two or possibly three different sets as he heads out on patrol at certain points in thier career. This is where you get to show your rangers individuality.

My carry weapons at cap are: longsword/shortsword set, two hand axe set, and a dagger set. This is not based on min maxing, it is more a collection of style, effectiveness vs heavy armor, and a couple speed weapons for when encumbered by heaps of treasure and skins.

Do not forget to look at blunt weapons if that is more appealing to you.

I can say, that this will be fun. Try all kinds of cheap sets of weapons to get what feels right.
This will evolve as Stats increase, better enhancive items are acquired, and weapon choice vs armor types are considered

So, what feels right now, may change at various training stages and against different types of armor types (critters).

Feras weapons, Flares, Ensorcellment, Weighting (crit and damage) can all boost your effectiveness. You hit twice as often and good combinations of the previous can add great advantages to your ranger.

https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Edged_Weapons
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Roundtime
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat

==TWC Defenses==

'All about that AS that AS , no defense, it's all about the AS'

Ok, so seriously, defenses as a two weapon using ranger. As usual we have some good options available.

'''TWC Parry DS:''' https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat
I cannot explain it better than is listed.

'''Stances:''' No really there are stances other than OFF and DEF. A good understanding of how you can adjust your stance to maintain adequate defense for the current threat and still provide you with enough offensive punch to down your enemies will really help. Your ranger spells have a great variety to help you to do this.

'''TWC Out Right Parry:''' each weapon will provide a 5% chance to parry incoming melee attacks against like level foes in stance offensive (https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Parry) Assume Aspect:Mantis aids nicely with both weapons chances to parry.

'''Bolt Defenses''': Two Weapon Combat style does not offer good bolt defenses (no shield). So, as a ranger we adapt. The ranger spell list and minor spell list will provide a great amount of assistance to our Bolt DS. I would like to focus on those that you can use to finesse things and make your twc ranger even more protected. Minor Spirit Air wall 102, and Fog 106 can be used as well as seeking areas when hunting that provide natural defenses. Your wall of thorns blocking incoming attacks,(later boosted by Aspect Porcupine), and Evasion/dodge (boosted by serpent) however will all aid you greatly. ''Assume Aspect Mantis with a runestaff will parry bolts/arrows as well. (test it)'' Rotating aspects when mana is not the main issue.

'''NOTE: The following Runestaff comments are for much later down the line but am tossing it in here for reference''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying Bolts and arrows. Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This would require a runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider. Test it out if you find the need for more bolt defenses beyond what you get from Wall of Thorns or out right evasion.

'''Evade''' Can be boosted by your Aspect Serpent, I saw a really significant increase here from 21% to 40%.

==runestaff test==
'''NOTE''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying bolts spells, ball spells, and arrows. Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This Would require runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider. Test it out.

An 800 attack test with the mage Drafix's assistance has shown my ranger's wall of thorns stopped about 21% of incoming bolt attacks. 24% were then outright evaded (wearing my hauberk or not wearing it was the same due to armor over training), (this increased to 40% evaded with Aspect Serpent running) and then after that 7% were blocked by the runestaff. Giving an over all total of 51%+ to 67% stopped/evaded/parried.

Also, the % was based on bolt spell by like level caster. I believe the Ball spells and Arrows the % to parry are different. And did not do a deep test of those at this time.

The rune staff below is +8 deringo. (a staff with eblade on it would cost next to nothing) (test for this posting was 8 of 20 and 10 of 27) using mantis against ball spells

''Sepher gestures at you''.

Sepher hurls a roaring ball of fire at you!

You deflect the bolt with your runestaff!

''Sepher nocks a dull black wooden arrow fletched with white-spotted falcon feathers in his sephwir long bow.'' (10/35 against arrows)

Sepher fires a dull black arrow at you!

You deflect the arrow with your runestaff!

The arrow disappears into the local environs.

Now I certainly do not expect everyone using TWC to invest in runestaves. But please remember that was 7% of the over all total attacks, not the ones that got past wall of thorns or were evaded outright) the runestaff seemed to parry about 11% of the bolts it had a chance to parry. So, if bolts become an issue, it is something to consider since you do have magical training as a semi and have a Bolt Weakness using Two weapons. You could also pick up a shield and train it, but the magical skills you have most likely have already trained in.

==Society==

(Anyone want to toss in pro-cons please do so)

Aurach is a member of Voln. Two Weapons against the many non-critable undead has worked rather well.

==See Also==
*[[Ranger]] (main article)
*[[A beginner's guide to playing a ranger]]
http://www.play.net/gs4/info/skills.asp#twoweaponcombat
Evade
Parry

==References==
*[http://www.play.net/gs4/info/professions/rangers.asp Ranger profession on Play.net]

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Aurach's Two Weapon Combat Guide: A Ranger's Perspective

2015-02-19T20:00:49Z

SHEN1: /* Two Weapon Combat Ranger Core Training */

{{Work-in-progress}}

==The Two Weapon Combat Ranger==
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/File:Twcranger.jpg (need to add this in off to side at some point visibly)

Observations on the style

==Why two weapons?==

Most ambushing rangers and archers can kill with one well placed strike. So too can the two weapon ambushing ranger, but the world has creatures that cannot be critical struck and only massive raw damage will suffice.

Enter our ranger hero, weapon in each hand, spell at the ready. 'Guts, 'glory, 'Aspects'

For me the style has always been about using your magics and blades together. This is really not a stand in the open and get beat on type of style. You can do that however. I prefer the use of good timing, and a rather large variety of spells to maneuver your opponents into situations favorable to you.

Your greatest strength is your variety of magics, combat maneuver skills, and weapons combined.

From the skills and stats a Ranger can be a very good two weapon user. Great spirit warding, good variety of spells, low costs to train a variety of skills, some of the best attack spells for a semi, great defensive spells all make for a really versatile and easily adjustable character.

While not recommended to try from early on, this style when combined with ambushing and Multi Opponent Combat is absolutely devastating.

==Ranger Spells==
The ranger spell list provides some unique benefits for TWC rangers, both directly and indirectly.

[[606|Phoen's strength (606)]] gives a phantom increase of +10 to [[Strength|strength]] bonus. Strength is incredibly important to keep RT down (encumbrance really affects the left hand weapon).

[[Mobility (618)]] offers a large bonus to Dodge, a TWC rangers primary defense

[[Camouflage (608)]] a +30 AS bonus from camouflage for multiple attacks. Yes both weapons get the bonus from a ranger leaping to ambush or 'plain attacking' from a camo 608 position, so this can be used by non ambusher for the boost if your quick, so you at least get the +30 AS bonus.

[[Wall of Thorns (640)]] of great assistance to a TWC ranger, the best defense is having the trees block for you and not getting hit at all.

[[650|Assume aspect (650)]] is custom made for a TWC ranger, allowing you to tweak your form to meet the current threat or boost a weakness. (alternating between rat and wolf for example maintains a boost to your agi/dex)

All Rangers also benefit from a plethora of set up spells that can complement any weapon style, such as [[Sounds (607)]], [[610|Tangle weed (610)]] , [[Call Swarm (615)]] and Sunburst (609) (note the effects vs undead)

TWC rangers will find great use in the [[Minor Spiritual]] spell circle, especially [[Spirit Barrier (102)]] and [[106|Spirit fog (106)]], to provide added defenses. Note that 102 gives a penalty to [[Attack strength|AS]] so you could [[STOP (verb)|STOP 102]], which removes the spell so you can attack without the penalty making for a creative low mana Shield/stance dance option, also breeze will eliminate 106, however that is mana intensive.

==Two Weapon Combat Training==
The introduction of Fix skills and Fix Stats, will allows new rangers to tweak their efforts with great ease. I suggest Maintain your core training, finesse skills/Stats as starting Stats have increased and allow you to gain more your training points while boosting over all stat totals. (this is an entire topic all it's own) (word smith this it isn't sounding right)

===Two Weapon Combat Ranger Core Training===

This is your base training that every two weapon ranger should have each level.

*2x (6/4) [[Combat Maneuvers]]:
*2x (3/2) [[Two Weapon Combat]]:
*2x (3/1) [[Edged Weapons]] (Blunt weapons can be used, slightly increased training cost, do not over look this if it appeals to your style of ranger)
*1x (4/0) [[Physical Fitness]]: (2x as soon as points are available, no shield, you will be getting hit, you need this)
*1x (7/5) [[Dodge]]
*1x (0/5) [[Harness Power]]
*1x (0/17) [[Spell Research]]: (May have to skip spells a few levels until training points work out)
*1x (0/3) [[Perception]]: take higher at cap (if you can single, go for it, I think you will be strapped for points: You can skip this when you need to)

Total of (/) (need to check this it is not right)

===TWC Ranger Discreet Training===

These values are plateaus you should strive to reach at some point in your career.

*1x (5/0) [[Armor Use]]: (Aurach's goal was 110 ranks for a chain hauberk and then 170 ranks post cap to reduce maneuver penalties in hauberk)
*5 ranks of [[Multi Opponent Combat]] (10/4) as soon as you can fit it in. (55 ranks allows you to focus mstrike 3 times per weapon on a single target)
*50 Ranks in [[Climbing]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make climb checks prior to that.
*50 Ranks in [[Swimming]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make swim checks prior to that.
*[[Spiritual Lore, Blessings]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after Getting 650
*[[Spiritual Lore, Summoning]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after getting 650
(your 1 rank of these two lores gives slight increases in many of your spells, low training point cost boosts)

===Spell Research===

My preferred training order: for a two weapon build
601, 101-103, 602-618, 104-107, 619-650, 108-130, Ranger ranks for life 'Aurach Moonshadew'

(other rangers prefer minor spirit 140 and ranger 162 which provides the best CS)

I prefer to get hues, then 101-103, I like having the low mana shield of 102 with this type of character.
After that Mobility is the goal. Then getting deep blues. Then I would head for Aspect.
This is simply my preference looking back on my build.

===Optional Additional Training===

A list of the most common skills to use your additional training points on.

*1x [[Ambush]] when you can fit the ranks in, 1x at cap (more as you feel the need) (I am singled at cap currently and do very well ambushing)
*2x [[Stalking and Hiding]] – If you plan to ambush at cap you will want to 2x this, post cap
*1x-2x [[Survival]] – This will aid skinning, foraging, and overland movement
*1x-2x [[First Aid]] – This will aid in skinning and reduce herb eating RT
*Spiritual Lore: Blessing and Summoning ranger preference, I think it should be gained after ranger spells are maxed
*[[Magic Item Use]] I regret not having this 1x earlier. I did it post cap and love it.
*[[Arcane Symbols]] I regret not having this 1x earlier (immediately after MIU).
*15 ranks [[Spiritual Mana Control]] as soon as you learn it is fun to share and play well with others. 15 ranks is enough to share with most Older Spirit mana using folks (25 ranks post cap if you like).

===Post Cap Goals===

*2x Physical Fitness (immediately at cap or earlier)
*2x [[Combat Maneuvers]] (At cap or earlier)
*2x [[Dodge]] (after maxing ranger spells)
*55 ranks [[Multi-Opponent Combat]] for 6 strikes focused on a single target
[[Thrown Weapons]] may be a very interesting post cap goal, since you will throw both weapons and you already have the required support skill ([[TWC]], [[Perception]], Combat Maneuvers)

'''[[Combat Maneuver]] skills (mine at cap at moment) Post Cap goals:'''
{|{{prettytable}}
|-style = "background:#DDD; color: blue"
!Skill
!Mnemonic
!Ranks
|-align=center
|[[Cunning Defense]]
|cdefense
|5
|-align=center
|[[Combat Movement]]
|cmovement
|5
|-align=center
|[[Hamstring]]
|hamstring
|5
|-align=center
|[[Disarm Weapon]]
|disarm
|5
|-align=center
|[[Shadow Mastery]]
|smastery
|5
|-align=center
|[[Sweep]]
|sweep
|1
|-align=center
|[[Garrote]]
|garrote
|1
|-align=center
|[[Subdual Strike]]
|sstrike
|1
|}

*TWC rangers will find these useful (order of preference for me was Cdefense, Cmovement, Hamstring, Disarm, Smastery)

This is simply how Aurach trained Combat maneuver skills.

==Race==
I would hope race depends largely on the vision you have for your ranger. That being said, Agility and Dexterity are very important to reduce RT. A race that has strength and can manage encumbrance would also be wise.

==What Armor to use?==
Good armor you will need it.

My advice is Double leather, then Brigandine, then hauberk, for Full body coverage. I like the full body coverage as it allows me to wear arm/leg greaves, helm, and aventails, if I choose with no added penalties. I kept my eye out for enhancives on the added armor pieces. Padding crit or damage is always a good choice if you can afford it.

My cap armor is a chain hauberk, with added helm, arm and leg greaves and aventail, it has 11% hinderance. I find the failure acceptable to my style. Some will not. A paladin for fluidity would be fantastic. I also kept training armor to reduce maneuver penalties. Armor skill is also a secondary skill for redux so serves some double duty.

==Keeping your RT manageable==

You will find the links below for Agi/Dex and Two weapon combat RT. The RT is probably the most confusing part of using two weapons. I say this because from time to time, it does not match the documents. Weapon weights, base speed, Agi/Dex, encumberance, and Character strength all affect your RT. (Assume Aspect, Phoen's Strength, Enhancive items, and Wizard strength will be the greatest help here)

To really enjoy and work the two weapon using ranger. You will need to test various combinations of weapons. Early on you might try short sword and gauche for the gauches added DS when used in off hand. Later on perhaps a long sword/short sword when you want to hit harder and keep RT manageable. Too many weapons to list.

==A Rangers Weapon Sets==
There are many weapons to try. Your ranger will have two or possibly three different sets as he heads out on patrol at certain points in thier career. This is where you get to show your rangers individuality.

My carry weapons at cap are: longsword/shortsword set, two hand axe set, and a dagger set. This is not based on min maxing, it is more a collection of style, effectiveness vs heavy armor, and a couple speed weapons for when encumbered by heaps of treasure and skins.

Do not forget to look at blunt weapons if that is more appealing to you.

I can say, that this will be fun. Try all kinds of cheap sets of weapons to get what feels right.
This will evolve as Stats increase, better enhancive items are acquired, and weapon choice vs armor types are considered

So, what feels right now, may change at various training stages and against different types of armor types (critters).

Feras weapons, Flares, Ensorcellment, Weighting (crit and damage) can all boost your effectiveness. You hit twice as often and good combinations of the previous can add great advantages to your ranger.

https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Edged_Weapons
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Roundtime
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat

==TWC Defenses==

'All about that AS that AS , no defense, it's all about the AS'

Ok, so seriously, defenses as a two weapon using ranger. As usual we have some good options available.

'''TWC Parry DS:''' https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat
I cannot explain it better than is listed.

'''Stances:''' No really there are stances other than OFF and DEF. A good understanding of how you can adjust your stance to maintain adequate defense for the current threat and still provide you with enough offensive punch to down your enemies will really help. Your ranger spells have a great variety to help you to do this.

'''TWC Out Right Parry:''' each weapon will provide a 5% chance to parry incoming melee attacks against like level foes in stance offensive (https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Parry) Assume Aspect:Mantis aids nicely with both weapons chances to parry.

'''Bolt Defenses''': Two Weapon Combat style does not offer good bolt defenses (no shield). So, as a ranger we adapt. The ranger spell list and minor spell list will provide a great amount of assistance to our Bolt DS. I would like to focus on those that you can use to finesse things and make your twc ranger even more protected. Minor Spirit Air wall 102, and Fog 106 can be used as well as seeking areas when hunting that provide natural defenses. Your wall of thorns blocking incoming attacks,(later boosted by Aspect Porcupine), and Evasion/dodge (boosted by serpent) however will all aid you greatly. ''Assume Aspect Mantis with a runestaff will parry bolts/arrows as well. (test it)'' Rotating aspects when mana is not the main issue.

'''NOTE: The following Runestaff comments are for much later down the line but am tossing it in here for reference''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying Bolts and arrows. Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This would require a runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider. Test it out if you find the need for more bolt defenses beyond what you get from Wall of Thorns or out right evasion.

'''Evade''' Can be boosted by your Aspect Serpent, I saw a really significant increase here from 21% to 40%.

==runestaff test==
'''NOTE''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying bolts spells, ball spells, and arrows. Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This Would require runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider. Test it out.

An 800 attack test with the mage Drafix's assistance has shown my ranger's wall of thorns stopped about 21% of incoming bolt attacks. 24% were then outright evaded (wearing my hauberk or not wearing it was the same due to armor over training), (this increased to 40% evaded with Aspect Serpent running) and then after that 7% were blocked by the runestaff. Giving an over all total of 51%+ to 67% stopped/evaded/parried.

Also, the % was based on bolt spell by like level caster. I believe the Ball spells and Arrows the % to parry are different. And did not do a deep test of those at this time.

The rune staff below is +8 deringo. (a staff with eblade on it would cost next to nothing) (test for this posting was 8 of 20 and 10 of 27) using mantis against ball spells

''Sepher gestures at you''.

Sepher hurls a roaring ball of fire at you!

You deflect the bolt with your runestaff!

''Sepher nocks a dull black wooden arrow fletched with white-spotted falcon feathers in his sephwir long bow.'' (10/35 against arrows)

Sepher fires a dull black arrow at you!

You deflect the arrow with your runestaff!

The arrow disappears into the local environs.

Now I certainly do not expect everyone using TWC to invest in runestaves. But please remember that was 7% of the over all total attacks, not the ones that got past wall of thorns or were evaded outright) the runestaff seemed to parry about 11% of the bolts it had a chance to parry. So, if bolts become an issue, it is something to consider since you do have magical training as a semi and have a Bolt Weakness using Two weapons. You could also pick up a shield and train it, but the magical skills you have most likely have already trained in.

==Society==

(Anyone want to toss in pro-cons please do so)

Aurach is a member of Voln. Two Weapons against the many non-critable undead has worked rather well.

==See Also==
*[[Ranger]] (main article)
*[[A beginner's guide to playing a ranger]]
http://www.play.net/gs4/info/skills.asp#twoweaponcombat
Evade
Parry

==References==
*[http://www.play.net/gs4/info/professions/rangers.asp Ranger profession on Play.net]

{{stub}}
[[Category:Guides]]
[[Category:Ranger]]
[[Category:Professional Guides]]

Aurach's Two Weapon Combat Guide: A Ranger's Perspective

2015-02-19T18:46:54Z

SHEN1: /* Why two weapons? */

{{Work-in-progress}}

==The Two Weapon Combat Ranger==
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/File:Twcranger.jpg (need to add this in off to side at some point visibly)

Observations on the style

==Why two weapons?==

Most ambushing rangers and archers can kill with one well placed strike. So too can the two weapon ambushing ranger, but the world has creatures that cannot be critical struck and only massive raw damage will suffice.

Enter our ranger hero, weapon in each hand, spell at the ready. 'Guts, 'glory, 'Aspects'

For me the style has always been about using your magics and blades together. This is really not a stand in the open and get beat on type of style. You can do that however. I prefer the use of good timing, and a rather large variety of spells to maneuver your opponents into situations favorable to you.

Your greatest strength is your variety of magics, combat maneuver skills, and weapons combined.

From the skills and stats a Ranger can be a very good two weapon user. Great spirit warding, good variety of spells, low costs to train a variety of skills, some of the best attack spells for a semi, great defensive spells all make for a really versatile and easily adjustable character.

While not recommended to try from early on, this style when combined with ambushing and Multi Opponent Combat is absolutely devastating.

==Ranger Spells==
The ranger spell list provides some unique benefits for TWC rangers, both directly and indirectly.

[[606|Phoen's strength (606)]] gives a phantom increase of +10 to [[Strength|strength]] bonus. Strength is incredibly important to keep RT down (encumbrance really affects the left hand weapon).

[[Mobility (618)]] offers a large bonus to Dodge, a TWC rangers primary defense

[[Camouflage (608)]] a +30 AS bonus from camouflage for multiple attacks. Yes both weapons get the bonus from a ranger leaping to ambush or 'plain attacking' from a camo 608 position, so this can be used by non ambusher for the boost if your quick, so you at least get the +30 AS bonus.

[[Wall of Thorns (640)]] of great assistance to a TWC ranger, the best defense is having the trees block for you and not getting hit at all.

[[650|Assume aspect (650)]] is custom made for a TWC ranger, allowing you to tweak your form to meet the current threat or boost a weakness. (alternating between rat and wolf for example maintains a boost to your agi/dex)

All Rangers also benefit from a plethora of set up spells that can complement any weapon style, such as [[Sounds (607)]], [[610|Tangle weed (610)]] , [[Call Swarm (615)]] and Sunburst (609) (note the effects vs undead)

TWC rangers will find great use in the [[Minor Spiritual]] spell circle, especially [[Spirit Barrier (102)]] and [[106|Spirit fog (106)]], to provide added defenses. Note that 102 gives a penalty to [[Attack strength|AS]] so you could [[STOP (verb)|STOP 102]], which removes the spell so you can attack without the penalty making for a creative low mana Shield/stance dance option, also breeze will eliminate 106, however that is mana intensive.

==Two Weapon Combat Training==
The introduction of Fix skills and Fix Stats, will allows new rangers to tweak their efforts with great ease. I suggest Maintain your core training, finesse skills/Stats as starting Stats have increased and allow you to gain more your training points while boosting over all stat totals. (this is an entire topic all it's own) (word smith this it isn't sounding right)

===Two Weapon Combat Ranger Core Training===

This is your base training that every two weapon ranger should have each level.

*2x (6/4) [[Combat Maneuvers]]:
*2x (3/2) [[Two Weapon Combat]]: Note: If you miss a few ranks it will work out, catch up when they become available, I told you, this is a crazy costing training point ranger to do from birth.
*2x (3/1) [[Edged Weapons]] (Blunt weapons can be used, slightly increased training cost, do not over look this if it appeals to your style of ranger)
*1x (4/0) [[Physical Fitness]]: (2x as soon as points are available, no shield, you will be getting hit, you need this)
*1x (7/5) [[Dodge]]
*1x (0/5) [[Harness Power]]
*1x (0/17) [[Spell Research]]: (May have to skip spells a few levels until training points work out)
*1x (0/3) [[Perception]]: take higher at cap (if you can single, go for it, I think you will be strapped for points: You can skip this when you need to)

Total of (/) (need to check this it is not right)

===TWC Ranger Discreet Training===

These values are plateaus you should strive to reach at some point in your career.

*1x (5/0) [[Armor Use]]: (Aurach's goal was 110 ranks for a chain hauberk and then 170 ranks post cap to reduce maneuver penalties in hauberk)
*5 ranks of [[Multi Opponent Combat]] (10/4) as soon as you can fit it in. (55 ranks allows you to focus mstrike 3 times per weapon on a single target)
*50 Ranks in [[Climbing]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make climb checks prior to that.
*50 Ranks in [[Swimming]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make swim checks prior to that.
*[[Spiritual Lore, Blessings]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after Getting 650
*[[Spiritual Lore, Summoning]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after getting 650
(your 1 rank of these two lores gives slight increases in many of your spells, low training point cost boosts)

===Spell Research===

My preferred training order: for a two weapon build
601, 101-103, 602-618, 104-107, 619-650, 108-130, Ranger ranks for life 'Aurach Moonshadew'

(other rangers prefer minor spirit 140 and ranger 162 which provides the best CS)

I prefer to get hues, then 101-103, I like having the low mana shield of 102 with this type of character.
After that Mobility is the goal. Then getting deep blues. Then I would head for Aspect.
This is simply my preference looking back on my build.

===Optional Additional Training===

A list of the most common skills to use your additional training points on.

*1x [[Ambush]] when you can fit the ranks in, 1x at cap (more as you feel the need) (I am singled at cap currently and do very well ambushing)
*2x [[Stalking and Hiding]] – If you plan to ambush at cap you will want to 2x this, post cap
*1x-2x [[Survival]] – This will aid skinning, foraging, and overland movement
*1x-2x [[First Aid]] – This will aid in skinning and reduce herb eating RT
*Spiritual Lore: Blessing and Summoning ranger preference, I think it should be gained after ranger spells are maxed
*[[Magic Item Use]] I regret not having this 1x earlier. I did it post cap and love it.
*[[Arcane Symbols]] I regret not having this 1x earlier (immediately after MIU).
*15 ranks [[Spiritual Mana Control]] as soon as you learn it is fun to share and play well with others. 15 ranks is enough to share with most Older Spirit mana using folks (25 ranks post cap if you like).

===Post Cap Goals===

*2x Physical Fitness (immediately at cap or earlier)
*2x [[Combat Maneuvers]] (At cap or earlier)
*2x [[Dodge]] (after maxing ranger spells)
*55 ranks [[Multi-Opponent Combat]] for 6 strikes focused on a single target
[[Thrown Weapons]] may be a very interesting post cap goal, since you will throw both weapons and you already have the required support skill ([[TWC]], [[Perception]], Combat Maneuvers)

'''[[Combat Maneuver]] skills (mine at cap at moment) Post Cap goals:'''
{|{{prettytable}}
|-style = "background:#DDD; color: blue"
!Skill
!Mnemonic
!Ranks
|-align=center
|[[Cunning Defense]]
|cdefense
|5
|-align=center
|[[Combat Movement]]
|cmovement
|5
|-align=center
|[[Hamstring]]
|hamstring
|5
|-align=center
|[[Disarm Weapon]]
|disarm
|5
|-align=center
|[[Shadow Mastery]]
|smastery
|5
|-align=center
|[[Sweep]]
|sweep
|1
|-align=center
|[[Garrote]]
|garrote
|1
|-align=center
|[[Subdual Strike]]
|sstrike
|1
|}

*TWC rangers will find these useful (order of preference for me was Cdefense, Cmovement, Hamstring, Disarm, Smastery)

This is simply how Aurach trained Combat maneuver skills.

==Race==
I would hope race depends largely on the vision you have for your ranger. That being said, Agility and Dexterity are very important to reduce RT. A race that has strength and can manage encumbrance would also be wise.

==What Armor to use?==
Good armor you will need it.

My advice is Double leather, then Brigandine, then hauberk, for Full body coverage. I like the full body coverage as it allows me to wear arm/leg greaves, helm, and aventails, if I choose with no added penalties. I kept my eye out for enhancives on the added armor pieces. Padding crit or damage is always a good choice if you can afford it.

My cap armor is a chain hauberk, with added helm, arm and leg greaves and aventail, it has 11% hinderance. I find the failure acceptable to my style. Some will not. A paladin for fluidity would be fantastic. I also kept training armor to reduce maneuver penalties. Armor skill is also a secondary skill for redux so serves some double duty.

==Keeping your RT manageable==

You will find the links below for Agi/Dex and Two weapon combat RT. The RT is probably the most confusing part of using two weapons. I say this because from time to time, it does not match the documents. Weapon weights, base speed, Agi/Dex, encumberance, and Character strength all affect your RT. (Assume Aspect, Phoen's Strength, Enhancive items, and Wizard strength will be the greatest help here)

To really enjoy and work the two weapon using ranger. You will need to test various combinations of weapons. Early on you might try short sword and gauche for the gauches added DS when used in off hand. Later on perhaps a long sword/short sword when you want to hit harder and keep RT manageable. Too many weapons to list.

==A Rangers Weapon Sets==
There are many weapons to try. Your ranger will have two or possibly three different sets as he heads out on patrol at certain points in thier career. This is where you get to show your rangers individuality.

My carry weapons at cap are: longsword/shortsword set, two hand axe set, and a dagger set. This is not based on min maxing, it is more a collection of style, effectiveness vs heavy armor, and a couple speed weapons for when encumbered by heaps of treasure and skins.

Do not forget to look at blunt weapons if that is more appealing to you.

I can say, that this will be fun. Try all kinds of cheap sets of weapons to get what feels right.
This will evolve as Stats increase, better enhancive items are acquired, and weapon choice vs armor types are considered

So, what feels right now, may change at various training stages and against different types of armor types (critters).

Feras weapons, Flares, Ensorcellment, Weighting (crit and damage) can all boost your effectiveness. You hit twice as often and good combinations of the previous can add great advantages to your ranger.

https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Edged_Weapons
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Roundtime
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat

==TWC Defenses==

'All about that AS that AS , no defense, it's all about the AS'

Ok, so seriously, defenses as a two weapon using ranger. As usual we have some good options available.

'''TWC Parry DS:''' https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat
I cannot explain it better than is listed.

'''Stances:''' No really there are stances other than OFF and DEF. A good understanding of how you can adjust your stance to maintain adequate defense for the current threat and still provide you with enough offensive punch to down your enemies will really help. Your ranger spells have a great variety to help you to do this.

'''TWC Out Right Parry:''' each weapon will provide a 5% chance to parry incoming melee attacks against like level foes in stance offensive (https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Parry) Assume Aspect:Mantis aids nicely with both weapons chances to parry.

'''Bolt Defenses''': Two Weapon Combat style does not offer good bolt defenses (no shield). So, as a ranger we adapt. The ranger spell list and minor spell list will provide a great amount of assistance to our Bolt DS. I would like to focus on those that you can use to finesse things and make your twc ranger even more protected. Minor Spirit Air wall 102, and Fog 106 can be used as well as seeking areas when hunting that provide natural defenses. Your wall of thorns blocking incoming attacks,(later boosted by Aspect Porcupine), and Evasion/dodge (boosted by serpent) however will all aid you greatly. ''Assume Aspect Mantis with a runestaff will parry bolts/arrows as well. (test it)'' Rotating aspects when mana is not the main issue.

'''NOTE: The following Runestaff comments are for much later down the line but am tossing it in here for reference''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying Bolts and arrows. Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This would require a runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider. Test it out if you find the need for more bolt defenses beyond what you get from Wall of Thorns or out right evasion.

'''Evade''' Can be boosted by your Aspect Serpent, I saw a really significant increase here from 21% to 40%.

==runestaff test==
'''NOTE''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying bolts spells, ball spells, and arrows. Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This Would require runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider. Test it out.

An 800 attack test with the mage Drafix's assistance has shown my ranger's wall of thorns stopped about 21% of incoming bolt attacks. 24% were then outright evaded (wearing my hauberk or not wearing it was the same due to armor over training), (this increased to 40% evaded with Aspect Serpent running) and then after that 7% were blocked by the runestaff. Giving an over all total of 51%+ to 67% stopped/evaded/parried.

Also, the % was based on bolt spell by like level caster. I believe the Ball spells and Arrows the % to parry are different. And did not do a deep test of those at this time.

The rune staff below is +8 deringo. (a staff with eblade on it would cost next to nothing) (test for this posting was 8 of 20 and 10 of 27) using mantis against ball spells

''Sepher gestures at you''.

Sepher hurls a roaring ball of fire at you!

You deflect the bolt with your runestaff!

''Sepher nocks a dull black wooden arrow fletched with white-spotted falcon feathers in his sephwir long bow.'' (10/35 against arrows)

Sepher fires a dull black arrow at you!

You deflect the arrow with your runestaff!

The arrow disappears into the local environs.

Now I certainly do not expect everyone using TWC to invest in runestaves. But please remember that was 7% of the over all total attacks, not the ones that got past wall of thorns or were evaded outright) the runestaff seemed to parry about 11% of the bolts it had a chance to parry. So, if bolts become an issue, it is something to consider since you do have magical training as a semi and have a Bolt Weakness using Two weapons. You could also pick up a shield and train it, but the magical skills you have most likely have already trained in.

==Society==

(Anyone want to toss in pro-cons please do so)

Aurach is a member of Voln. Two Weapons against the many non-critable undead has worked rather well.

==See Also==
*[[Ranger]] (main article)
*[[A beginner's guide to playing a ranger]]
http://www.play.net/gs4/info/skills.asp#twoweaponcombat
Evade
Parry

==References==
*[http://www.play.net/gs4/info/professions/rangers.asp Ranger profession on Play.net]

{{stub}}
[[Category:Guides]]
[[Category:Ranger]]
[[Category:Professional Guides]]
[[Category:New Player| ]]

Aurach's Two Weapon Combat Guide: A Ranger's Perspective

2015-02-19T18:46:33Z

SHEN1: /* Why two weapons? */

{{Work-in-progress}}

==The Two Weapon Combat Ranger==
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/File:Twcranger.jpg (need to add this in off to side at some point visibly)

Observations on the style

==Why two weapons?==

Most ambushing rangers and archers can kill with one well placed strike. So too can the two weapon ambushing ranger, but the world has creatures that cannot be critical struck and only massive raw damage will suffice.

Enter our ranger hero, weapon in each hand, spell at the ready. 'Guts, 'glory, 'Aspect'

For me the style has always been about using your magics and blades together. This is really not a stand in the open and get beat on type of style. You can do that however. I prefer the use of good timing, and a rather large variety of spells to maneuver your opponents into situations favorable to you.

Your greatest strength is your variety of magics, combat maneuver skills, and weapons combined.

From the skills and stats a Ranger can be a very good two weapon user. Great spirit warding, good variety of spells, low costs to train a variety of skills, some of the best attack spells for a semi, great defensive spells all make for a really versatile and easily adjustable character.

While not recommended to try from early on, this style when combined with ambushing and Multi Opponent Combat is absolutely devastating.

==Ranger Spells==
The ranger spell list provides some unique benefits for TWC rangers, both directly and indirectly.

[[606|Phoen's strength (606)]] gives a phantom increase of +10 to [[Strength|strength]] bonus. Strength is incredibly important to keep RT down (encumbrance really affects the left hand weapon).

[[Mobility (618)]] offers a large bonus to Dodge, a TWC rangers primary defense

[[Camouflage (608)]] a +30 AS bonus from camouflage for multiple attacks. Yes both weapons get the bonus from a ranger leaping to ambush or 'plain attacking' from a camo 608 position, so this can be used by non ambusher for the boost if your quick, so you at least get the +30 AS bonus.

[[Wall of Thorns (640)]] of great assistance to a TWC ranger, the best defense is having the trees block for you and not getting hit at all.

[[650|Assume aspect (650)]] is custom made for a TWC ranger, allowing you to tweak your form to meet the current threat or boost a weakness. (alternating between rat and wolf for example maintains a boost to your agi/dex)

All Rangers also benefit from a plethora of set up spells that can complement any weapon style, such as [[Sounds (607)]], [[610|Tangle weed (610)]] , [[Call Swarm (615)]] and Sunburst (609) (note the effects vs undead)

TWC rangers will find great use in the [[Minor Spiritual]] spell circle, especially [[Spirit Barrier (102)]] and [[106|Spirit fog (106)]], to provide added defenses. Note that 102 gives a penalty to [[Attack strength|AS]] so you could [[STOP (verb)|STOP 102]], which removes the spell so you can attack without the penalty making for a creative low mana Shield/stance dance option, also breeze will eliminate 106, however that is mana intensive.

==Two Weapon Combat Training==
The introduction of Fix skills and Fix Stats, will allows new rangers to tweak their efforts with great ease. I suggest Maintain your core training, finesse skills/Stats as starting Stats have increased and allow you to gain more your training points while boosting over all stat totals. (this is an entire topic all it's own) (word smith this it isn't sounding right)

===Two Weapon Combat Ranger Core Training===

This is your base training that every two weapon ranger should have each level.

*2x (6/4) [[Combat Maneuvers]]:
*2x (3/2) [[Two Weapon Combat]]: Note: If you miss a few ranks it will work out, catch up when they become available, I told you, this is a crazy costing training point ranger to do from birth.
*2x (3/1) [[Edged Weapons]] (Blunt weapons can be used, slightly increased training cost, do not over look this if it appeals to your style of ranger)
*1x (4/0) [[Physical Fitness]]: (2x as soon as points are available, no shield, you will be getting hit, you need this)
*1x (7/5) [[Dodge]]
*1x (0/5) [[Harness Power]]
*1x (0/17) [[Spell Research]]: (May have to skip spells a few levels until training points work out)
*1x (0/3) [[Perception]]: take higher at cap (if you can single, go for it, I think you will be strapped for points: You can skip this when you need to)

Total of (/) (need to check this it is not right)

===TWC Ranger Discreet Training===

These values are plateaus you should strive to reach at some point in your career.

*1x (5/0) [[Armor Use]]: (Aurach's goal was 110 ranks for a chain hauberk and then 170 ranks post cap to reduce maneuver penalties in hauberk)
*5 ranks of [[Multi Opponent Combat]] (10/4) as soon as you can fit it in. (55 ranks allows you to focus mstrike 3 times per weapon on a single target)
*50 Ranks in [[Climbing]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make climb checks prior to that.
*50 Ranks in [[Swimming]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make swim checks prior to that.
*[[Spiritual Lore, Blessings]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after Getting 650
*[[Spiritual Lore, Summoning]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after getting 650
(your 1 rank of these two lores gives slight increases in many of your spells, low training point cost boosts)

===Spell Research===

My preferred training order: for a two weapon build
601, 101-103, 602-618, 104-107, 619-650, 108-130, Ranger ranks for life 'Aurach Moonshadew'

(other rangers prefer minor spirit 140 and ranger 162 which provides the best CS)

I prefer to get hues, then 101-103, I like having the low mana shield of 102 with this type of character.
After that Mobility is the goal. Then getting deep blues. Then I would head for Aspect.
This is simply my preference looking back on my build.

===Optional Additional Training===

A list of the most common skills to use your additional training points on.

*1x [[Ambush]] when you can fit the ranks in, 1x at cap (more as you feel the need) (I am singled at cap currently and do very well ambushing)
*2x [[Stalking and Hiding]] – If you plan to ambush at cap you will want to 2x this, post cap
*1x-2x [[Survival]] – This will aid skinning, foraging, and overland movement
*1x-2x [[First Aid]] – This will aid in skinning and reduce herb eating RT
*Spiritual Lore: Blessing and Summoning ranger preference, I think it should be gained after ranger spells are maxed
*[[Magic Item Use]] I regret not having this 1x earlier. I did it post cap and love it.
*[[Arcane Symbols]] I regret not having this 1x earlier (immediately after MIU).
*15 ranks [[Spiritual Mana Control]] as soon as you learn it is fun to share and play well with others. 15 ranks is enough to share with most Older Spirit mana using folks (25 ranks post cap if you like).

===Post Cap Goals===

*2x Physical Fitness (immediately at cap or earlier)
*2x [[Combat Maneuvers]] (At cap or earlier)
*2x [[Dodge]] (after maxing ranger spells)
*55 ranks [[Multi-Opponent Combat]] for 6 strikes focused on a single target
[[Thrown Weapons]] may be a very interesting post cap goal, since you will throw both weapons and you already have the required support skill ([[TWC]], [[Perception]], Combat Maneuvers)

'''[[Combat Maneuver]] skills (mine at cap at moment) Post Cap goals:'''
{|{{prettytable}}
|-style = "background:#DDD; color: blue"
!Skill
!Mnemonic
!Ranks
|-align=center
|[[Cunning Defense]]
|cdefense
|5
|-align=center
|[[Combat Movement]]
|cmovement
|5
|-align=center
|[[Hamstring]]
|hamstring
|5
|-align=center
|[[Disarm Weapon]]
|disarm
|5
|-align=center
|[[Shadow Mastery]]
|smastery
|5
|-align=center
|[[Sweep]]
|sweep
|1
|-align=center
|[[Garrote]]
|garrote
|1
|-align=center
|[[Subdual Strike]]
|sstrike
|1
|}

*TWC rangers will find these useful (order of preference for me was Cdefense, Cmovement, Hamstring, Disarm, Smastery)

This is simply how Aurach trained Combat maneuver skills.

==Race==
I would hope race depends largely on the vision you have for your ranger. That being said, Agility and Dexterity are very important to reduce RT. A race that has strength and can manage encumbrance would also be wise.

==What Armor to use?==
Good armor you will need it.

My advice is Double leather, then Brigandine, then hauberk, for Full body coverage. I like the full body coverage as it allows me to wear arm/leg greaves, helm, and aventails, if I choose with no added penalties. I kept my eye out for enhancives on the added armor pieces. Padding crit or damage is always a good choice if you can afford it.

My cap armor is a chain hauberk, with added helm, arm and leg greaves and aventail, it has 11% hinderance. I find the failure acceptable to my style. Some will not. A paladin for fluidity would be fantastic. I also kept training armor to reduce maneuver penalties. Armor skill is also a secondary skill for redux so serves some double duty.

==Keeping your RT manageable==

You will find the links below for Agi/Dex and Two weapon combat RT. The RT is probably the most confusing part of using two weapons. I say this because from time to time, it does not match the documents. Weapon weights, base speed, Agi/Dex, encumberance, and Character strength all affect your RT. (Assume Aspect, Phoen's Strength, Enhancive items, and Wizard strength will be the greatest help here)

To really enjoy and work the two weapon using ranger. You will need to test various combinations of weapons. Early on you might try short sword and gauche for the gauches added DS when used in off hand. Later on perhaps a long sword/short sword when you want to hit harder and keep RT manageable. Too many weapons to list.

==A Rangers Weapon Sets==
There are many weapons to try. Your ranger will have two or possibly three different sets as he heads out on patrol at certain points in thier career. This is where you get to show your rangers individuality.

My carry weapons at cap are: longsword/shortsword set, two hand axe set, and a dagger set. This is not based on min maxing, it is more a collection of style, effectiveness vs heavy armor, and a couple speed weapons for when encumbered by heaps of treasure and skins.

Do not forget to look at blunt weapons if that is more appealing to you.

I can say, that this will be fun. Try all kinds of cheap sets of weapons to get what feels right.
This will evolve as Stats increase, better enhancive items are acquired, and weapon choice vs armor types are considered

So, what feels right now, may change at various training stages and against different types of armor types (critters).

Feras weapons, Flares, Ensorcellment, Weighting (crit and damage) can all boost your effectiveness. You hit twice as often and good combinations of the previous can add great advantages to your ranger.

https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Edged_Weapons
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Roundtime
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat

==TWC Defenses==

'All about that AS that AS , no defense, it's all about the AS'

Ok, so seriously, defenses as a two weapon using ranger. As usual we have some good options available.

'''TWC Parry DS:''' https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat
I cannot explain it better than is listed.

'''Stances:''' No really there are stances other than OFF and DEF. A good understanding of how you can adjust your stance to maintain adequate defense for the current threat and still provide you with enough offensive punch to down your enemies will really help. Your ranger spells have a great variety to help you to do this.

'''TWC Out Right Parry:''' each weapon will provide a 5% chance to parry incoming melee attacks against like level foes in stance offensive (https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Parry) Assume Aspect:Mantis aids nicely with both weapons chances to parry.

'''Bolt Defenses''': Two Weapon Combat style does not offer good bolt defenses (no shield). So, as a ranger we adapt. The ranger spell list and minor spell list will provide a great amount of assistance to our Bolt DS. I would like to focus on those that you can use to finesse things and make your twc ranger even more protected. Minor Spirit Air wall 102, and Fog 106 can be used as well as seeking areas when hunting that provide natural defenses. Your wall of thorns blocking incoming attacks,(later boosted by Aspect Porcupine), and Evasion/dodge (boosted by serpent) however will all aid you greatly. ''Assume Aspect Mantis with a runestaff will parry bolts/arrows as well. (test it)'' Rotating aspects when mana is not the main issue.

'''NOTE: The following Runestaff comments are for much later down the line but am tossing it in here for reference''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying Bolts and arrows. Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This would require a runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider. Test it out if you find the need for more bolt defenses beyond what you get from Wall of Thorns or out right evasion.

'''Evade''' Can be boosted by your Aspect Serpent, I saw a really significant increase here from 21% to 40%.

==runestaff test==
'''NOTE''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying bolts spells, ball spells, and arrows. Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This Would require runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider. Test it out.

An 800 attack test with the mage Drafix's assistance has shown my ranger's wall of thorns stopped about 21% of incoming bolt attacks. 24% were then outright evaded (wearing my hauberk or not wearing it was the same due to armor over training), (this increased to 40% evaded with Aspect Serpent running) and then after that 7% were blocked by the runestaff. Giving an over all total of 51%+ to 67% stopped/evaded/parried.

Also, the % was based on bolt spell by like level caster. I believe the Ball spells and Arrows the % to parry are different. And did not do a deep test of those at this time.

The rune staff below is +8 deringo. (a staff with eblade on it would cost next to nothing) (test for this posting was 8 of 20 and 10 of 27) using mantis against ball spells

''Sepher gestures at you''.

Sepher hurls a roaring ball of fire at you!

You deflect the bolt with your runestaff!

''Sepher nocks a dull black wooden arrow fletched with white-spotted falcon feathers in his sephwir long bow.'' (10/35 against arrows)

Sepher fires a dull black arrow at you!

You deflect the arrow with your runestaff!

The arrow disappears into the local environs.

Now I certainly do not expect everyone using TWC to invest in runestaves. But please remember that was 7% of the over all total attacks, not the ones that got past wall of thorns or were evaded outright) the runestaff seemed to parry about 11% of the bolts it had a chance to parry. So, if bolts become an issue, it is something to consider since you do have magical training as a semi and have a Bolt Weakness using Two weapons. You could also pick up a shield and train it, but the magical skills you have most likely have already trained in.

==Society==

(Anyone want to toss in pro-cons please do so)

Aurach is a member of Voln. Two Weapons against the many non-critable undead has worked rather well.

==See Also==
*[[Ranger]] (main article)
*[[A beginner's guide to playing a ranger]]
http://www.play.net/gs4/info/skills.asp#twoweaponcombat
Evade
Parry

==References==
*[http://www.play.net/gs4/info/professions/rangers.asp Ranger profession on Play.net]

{{stub}}
[[Category:Guides]]
[[Category:Ranger]]
[[Category:Professional Guides]]
[[Category:New Player| ]]

Aurach's Two Weapon Combat Guide: A Ranger's Perspective

2015-02-19T18:37:24Z

SHEN1: /* Why two weapons? */

{{Work-in-progress}}

==The Two Weapon Combat Ranger==
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/File:Twcranger.jpg (need to add this in off to side at some point visibly)

Observations on the style

==Why two weapons?==

Most ambushing rangers and archers can kill with one well placed strike. So too can the two weapon ambushing ranger, but the world has creatures that cannot be critical struck and only massive raw damage will suffice.

Enter our ranger hero, weapon in each hand, spell at the ready. 'Guts, 'glory, 'Aspects'

For me the style has always been about using your magics and blades together. This is really not a stand in the open and get beat on type of style. You can do that however. I prefer the use of good timing, and a rather large variety of spells to maneuver your opponents into situations favorable to you.

Your greatest strength is your variety of magics, combat maneuver skills, and weapons combined.

From the skills and stats a Ranger can be a very good two weapon user. Great spirit warding, good variety of spells, low costs to train a variety of skills, some of the best attack spells for a semi, great defensive spells all make for a really versatile and easily adjustable character.

While not recommended to try from early on, this style when combined with ambushing and Multi Opponent Combat is absolutely devastating.

==Ranger Spells==
The ranger spell list provides some unique benefits for TWC rangers, both directly and indirectly.

[[606|Phoen's strength (606)]] gives a phantom increase of +10 to [[Strength|strength]] bonus. Strength is incredibly important to keep RT down (encumbrance really affects the left hand weapon).

[[Mobility (618)]] offers a large bonus to Dodge, a TWC rangers primary defense

[[Camouflage (608)]] a +30 AS bonus from camouflage for multiple attacks. Yes both weapons get the bonus from a ranger leaping to ambush or 'plain attacking' from a camo 608 position, so this can be used by non ambusher for the boost if your quick, so you at least get the +30 AS bonus.

[[Wall of Thorns (640)]] of great assistance to a TWC ranger, the best defense is having the trees block for you and not getting hit at all.

[[650|Assume aspect (650)]] is custom made for a TWC ranger, allowing you to tweak your form to meet the current threat or boost a weakness. (alternating between rat and wolf for example maintains a boost to your agi/dex)

All Rangers also benefit from a plethora of set up spells that can complement any weapon style, such as [[Sounds (607)]], [[610|Tangle weed (610)]] , [[Call Swarm (615)]] and Sunburst (609) (note the effects vs undead)

TWC rangers will find great use in the [[Minor Spiritual]] spell circle, especially [[Spirit Barrier (102)]] and [[106|Spirit fog (106)]], to provide added defenses. Note that 102 gives a penalty to [[Attack strength|AS]] so you could [[STOP (verb)|STOP 102]], which removes the spell so you can attack without the penalty making for a creative low mana Shield/stance dance option, also breeze will eliminate 106, however that is mana intensive.

==Two Weapon Combat Training==
The introduction of Fix skills and Fix Stats, will allows new rangers to tweak their efforts with great ease. I suggest Maintain your core training, finesse skills/Stats as starting Stats have increased and allow you to gain more your training points while boosting over all stat totals. (this is an entire topic all it's own) (word smith this it isn't sounding right)

===Two Weapon Combat Ranger Core Training===

This is your base training that every two weapon ranger should have each level.

*2x (6/4) [[Combat Maneuvers]]:
*2x (3/2) [[Two Weapon Combat]]: Note: If you miss a few ranks it will work out, catch up when they become available, I told you, this is a crazy costing training point ranger to do from birth.
*2x (3/1) [[Edged Weapons]] (Blunt weapons can be used, slightly increased training cost, do not over look this if it appeals to your style of ranger)
*1x (4/0) [[Physical Fitness]]: (2x as soon as points are available, no shield, you will be getting hit, you need this)
*1x (7/5) [[Dodge]]
*1x (0/5) [[Harness Power]]
*1x (0/17) [[Spell Research]]: (May have to skip spells a few levels until training points work out)
*1x (0/3) [[Perception]]: take higher at cap (if you can single, go for it, I think you will be strapped for points: You can skip this when you need to)

Total of (/) (need to check this it is not right)

===TWC Ranger Discreet Training===

These values are plateaus you should strive to reach at some point in your career.

*1x (5/0) [[Armor Use]]: (Aurach's goal was 110 ranks for a chain hauberk and then 170 ranks post cap to reduce maneuver penalties in hauberk)
*5 ranks of [[Multi Opponent Combat]] (10/4) as soon as you can fit it in. (55 ranks allows you to focus mstrike 3 times per weapon on a single target)
*50 Ranks in [[Climbing]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make climb checks prior to that.
*50 Ranks in [[Swimming]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make swim checks prior to that.
*[[Spiritual Lore, Blessings]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after Getting 650
*[[Spiritual Lore, Summoning]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after getting 650
(your 1 rank of these two lores gives slight increases in many of your spells, low training point cost boosts)

===Spell Research===

My preferred training order: for a two weapon build
601, 101-103, 602-618, 104-107, 619-650, 108-130, Ranger ranks for life 'Aurach Moonshadew'

(other rangers prefer minor spirit 140 and ranger 162 which provides the best CS)

I prefer to get hues, then 101-103, I like having the low mana shield of 102 with this type of character.
After that Mobility is the goal. Then getting deep blues. Then I would head for Aspect.
This is simply my preference looking back on my build.

===Optional Additional Training===

A list of the most common skills to use your additional training points on.

*1x [[Ambush]] when you can fit the ranks in, 1x at cap (more as you feel the need) (I am singled at cap currently and do very well ambushing)
*2x [[Stalking and Hiding]] – If you plan to ambush at cap you will want to 2x this, post cap
*1x-2x [[Survival]] – This will aid skinning, foraging, and overland movement
*1x-2x [[First Aid]] – This will aid in skinning and reduce herb eating RT
*Spiritual Lore: Blessing and Summoning ranger preference, I think it should be gained after ranger spells are maxed
*[[Magic Item Use]] I regret not having this 1x earlier. I did it post cap and love it.
*[[Arcane Symbols]] I regret not having this 1x earlier (immediately after MIU).
*15 ranks [[Spiritual Mana Control]] as soon as you learn it is fun to share and play well with others. 15 ranks is enough to share with most Older Spirit mana using folks (25 ranks post cap if you like).

===Post Cap Goals===

*2x Physical Fitness (immediately at cap or earlier)
*2x [[Combat Maneuvers]] (At cap or earlier)
*2x [[Dodge]] (after maxing ranger spells)
*55 ranks [[Multi-Opponent Combat]] for 6 strikes focused on a single target
[[Thrown Weapons]] may be a very interesting post cap goal, since you will throw both weapons and you already have the required support skill ([[TWC]], [[Perception]], Combat Maneuvers)

'''[[Combat Maneuver]] skills (mine at cap at moment) Post Cap goals:'''
{|{{prettytable}}
|-style = "background:#DDD; color: blue"
!Skill
!Mnemonic
!Ranks
|-align=center
|[[Cunning Defense]]
|cdefense
|5
|-align=center
|[[Combat Movement]]
|cmovement
|5
|-align=center
|[[Hamstring]]
|hamstring
|5
|-align=center
|[[Disarm Weapon]]
|disarm
|5
|-align=center
|[[Shadow Mastery]]
|smastery
|5
|-align=center
|[[Sweep]]
|sweep
|1
|-align=center
|[[Garrote]]
|garrote
|1
|-align=center
|[[Subdual Strike]]
|sstrike
|1
|}

*TWC rangers will find these useful (order of preference for me was Cdefense, Cmovement, Hamstring, Disarm, Smastery)

This is simply how Aurach trained Combat maneuver skills.

==Race==
I would hope race depends largely on the vision you have for your ranger. That being said, Agility and Dexterity are very important to reduce RT. A race that has strength and can manage encumbrance would also be wise.

==What Armor to use?==
Good armor you will need it.

My advice is Double leather, then Brigandine, then hauberk, for Full body coverage. I like the full body coverage as it allows me to wear arm/leg greaves, helm, and aventails, if I choose with no added penalties. I kept my eye out for enhancives on the added armor pieces. Padding crit or damage is always a good choice if you can afford it.

My cap armor is a chain hauberk, with added helm, arm and leg greaves and aventail, it has 11% hinderance. I find the failure acceptable to my style. Some will not. A paladin for fluidity would be fantastic. I also kept training armor to reduce maneuver penalties. Armor skill is also a secondary skill for redux so serves some double duty.

==Keeping your RT manageable==

You will find the links below for Agi/Dex and Two weapon combat RT. The RT is probably the most confusing part of using two weapons. I say this because from time to time, it does not match the documents. Weapon weights, base speed, Agi/Dex, encumberance, and Character strength all affect your RT. (Assume Aspect, Phoen's Strength, Enhancive items, and Wizard strength will be the greatest help here)

To really enjoy and work the two weapon using ranger. You will need to test various combinations of weapons. Early on you might try short sword and gauche for the gauches added DS when used in off hand. Later on perhaps a long sword/short sword when you want to hit harder and keep RT manageable. Too many weapons to list.

==A Rangers Weapon Sets==
There are many weapons to try. Your ranger will have two or possibly three different sets as he heads out on patrol at certain points in thier career. This is where you get to show your rangers individuality.

My carry weapons at cap are: longsword/shortsword set, two hand axe set, and a dagger set. This is not based on min maxing, it is more a collection of style, effectiveness vs heavy armor, and a couple speed weapons for when encumbered by heaps of treasure and skins.

Do not forget to look at blunt weapons if that is more appealing to you.

I can say, that this will be fun. Try all kinds of cheap sets of weapons to get what feels right.
This will evolve as Stats increase, better enhancive items are acquired, and weapon choice vs armor types are considered

So, what feels right now, may change at various training stages and against different types of armor types (critters).

Feras weapons, Flares, Ensorcellment, Weighting (crit and damage) can all boost your effectiveness. You hit twice as often and good combinations of the previous can add great advantages to your ranger.

https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Edged_Weapons
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Roundtime
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat

==TWC Defenses==

'All about that AS that AS , no defense, it's all about the AS'

Ok, so seriously, defenses as a two weapon using ranger. As usual we have some good options available.

'''TWC Parry DS:''' https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat
I cannot explain it better than is listed.

'''Stances:''' No really there are stances other than OFF and DEF. A good understanding of how you can adjust your stance to maintain adequate defense for the current threat and still provide you with enough offensive punch to down your enemies will really help. Your ranger spells have a great variety to help you to do this.

'''TWC Out Right Parry:''' each weapon will provide a 5% chance to parry incoming melee attacks against like level foes in stance offensive (https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Parry) Assume Aspect:Mantis aids nicely with both weapons chances to parry.

'''Bolt Defenses''': Two Weapon Combat style does not offer good bolt defenses (no shield). So, as a ranger we adapt. The ranger spell list and minor spell list will provide a great amount of assistance to our Bolt DS. I would like to focus on those that you can use to finesse things and make your twc ranger even more protected. Minor Spirit Air wall 102, and Fog 106 can be used as well as seeking areas when hunting that provide natural defenses. Your wall of thorns blocking incoming attacks,(later boosted by Aspect Porcupine), and Evasion/dodge (boosted by serpent) however will all aid you greatly. ''Assume Aspect Mantis with a runestaff will parry bolts/arrows as well. (test it)'' Rotating aspects when mana is not the main issue.

'''NOTE: The following Runestaff comments are for much later down the line but am tossing it in here for reference''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying Bolts and arrows. Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This would require a runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider. Test it out if you find the need for more bolt defenses beyond what you get from Wall of Thorns or out right evasion.

'''Evade''' Can be boosted by your Aspect Serpent, I saw a really significant increase here from 21% to 40%.

==runestaff test==
'''NOTE''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying bolts spells, ball spells, and arrows. Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This Would require runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider. Test it out.

An 800 attack test with the mage Drafix's assistance has shown my ranger's wall of thorns stopped about 21% of incoming bolt attacks. 24% were then outright evaded (wearing my hauberk or not wearing it was the same due to armor over training), (this increased to 40% evaded with Aspect Serpent running) and then after that 7% were blocked by the runestaff. Giving an over all total of 51%+ to 67% stopped/evaded/parried.

Also, the % was based on bolt spell by like level caster. I believe the Ball spells and Arrows the % to parry are different. And did not do a deep test of those at this time.

The rune staff below is +8 deringo. (a staff with eblade on it would cost next to nothing) (test for this posting was 8 of 20 and 10 of 27) using mantis against ball spells

''Sepher gestures at you''.

Sepher hurls a roaring ball of fire at you!

You deflect the bolt with your runestaff!

''Sepher nocks a dull black wooden arrow fletched with white-spotted falcon feathers in his sephwir long bow.'' (10/35 against arrows)

Sepher fires a dull black arrow at you!

You deflect the arrow with your runestaff!

The arrow disappears into the local environs.

Now I certainly do not expect everyone using TWC to invest in runestaves. But please remember that was 7% of the over all total attacks, not the ones that got past wall of thorns or were evaded outright) the runestaff seemed to parry about 11% of the bolts it had a chance to parry. So, if bolts become an issue, it is something to consider since you do have magical training as a semi and have a Bolt Weakness using Two weapons. You could also pick up a shield and train it, but the magical skills you have most likely have already trained in.

==Society==

(Anyone want to toss in pro-cons please do so)

Aurach is a member of Voln. Two Weapons against the many non-critable undead has worked rather well.

==See Also==
*[[Ranger]] (main article)
*[[A beginner's guide to playing a ranger]]
http://www.play.net/gs4/info/skills.asp#twoweaponcombat
Evade
Parry

==References==
*[http://www.play.net/gs4/info/professions/rangers.asp Ranger profession on Play.net]

{{stub}}
[[Category:Guides]]
[[Category:Ranger]]
[[Category:Professional Guides]]
[[Category:New Player| ]]

Aurach's Two Weapon Combat Guide: A Ranger's Perspective

2015-02-19T18:36:35Z

SHEN1: /* Why two weapons? */

{{Work-in-progress}}

==The Two Weapon Combat Ranger==
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/File:Twcranger.jpg (need to add this in off to side at some point visibly)

Observations on the style

==Why two weapons?==

Most ambushing rangers and archers can kill with one well placed strike. So too can the two weapon ambushing ranger, but the world has creatures that cannot be critical struck and only massive raw damage will suffice.
Enter our hero, weapon in each hand. 'Guts, 'glory, 'Aspects'

For me the style has always been about using your magics and blades together. This is really not a stand in the open and get beat on type of style. You can do that however. I prefer the use of good timing, and a rather large variety of spells to maneuver your opponents into situations favorable to you.

Your greatest strength is your variety of magics, combat maneuver skills, and weapons combined.

From the skills and stats a Ranger can be a very good two weapon user. Great spirit warding, good variety of spells, low costs to train a variety of skills, some of the best attack spells for a semi, great defensive spells all make for a really versatile and easily adjustable character.

While not recommended to try from early on, this style when combined with ambushing and Multi Opponent Combat is absolutely devastating.

==Ranger Spells==
The ranger spell list provides some unique benefits for TWC rangers, both directly and indirectly.

[[606|Phoen's strength (606)]] gives a phantom increase of +10 to [[Strength|strength]] bonus. Strength is incredibly important to keep RT down (encumbrance really affects the left hand weapon).

[[Mobility (618)]] offers a large bonus to Dodge, a TWC rangers primary defense

[[Camouflage (608)]] a +30 AS bonus from camouflage for multiple attacks. Yes both weapons get the bonus from a ranger leaping to ambush or 'plain attacking' from a camo 608 position, so this can be used by non ambusher for the boost if your quick, so you at least get the +30 AS bonus.

[[Wall of Thorns (640)]] of great assistance to a TWC ranger, the best defense is having the trees block for you and not getting hit at all.

[[650|Assume aspect (650)]] is custom made for a TWC ranger, allowing you to tweak your form to meet the current threat or boost a weakness. (alternating between rat and wolf for example maintains a boost to your agi/dex)

All Rangers also benefit from a plethora of set up spells that can complement any weapon style, such as [[Sounds (607)]], [[610|Tangle weed (610)]] , [[Call Swarm (615)]] and Sunburst (609) (note the effects vs undead)

TWC rangers will find great use in the [[Minor Spiritual]] spell circle, especially [[Spirit Barrier (102)]] and [[106|Spirit fog (106)]], to provide added defenses. Note that 102 gives a penalty to [[Attack strength|AS]] so you could [[STOP (verb)|STOP 102]], which removes the spell so you can attack without the penalty making for a creative low mana Shield/stance dance option, also breeze will eliminate 106, however that is mana intensive.

==Two Weapon Combat Training==
The introduction of Fix skills and Fix Stats, will allows new rangers to tweak their efforts with great ease. I suggest Maintain your core training, finesse skills/Stats as starting Stats have increased and allow you to gain more your training points while boosting over all stat totals. (this is an entire topic all it's own) (word smith this it isn't sounding right)

===Two Weapon Combat Ranger Core Training===

This is your base training that every two weapon ranger should have each level.

*2x (6/4) [[Combat Maneuvers]]:
*2x (3/2) [[Two Weapon Combat]]: Note: If you miss a few ranks it will work out, catch up when they become available, I told you, this is a crazy costing training point ranger to do from birth.
*2x (3/1) [[Edged Weapons]] (Blunt weapons can be used, slightly increased training cost, do not over look this if it appeals to your style of ranger)
*1x (4/0) [[Physical Fitness]]: (2x as soon as points are available, no shield, you will be getting hit, you need this)
*1x (7/5) [[Dodge]]
*1x (0/5) [[Harness Power]]
*1x (0/17) [[Spell Research]]: (May have to skip spells a few levels until training points work out)
*1x (0/3) [[Perception]]: take higher at cap (if you can single, go for it, I think you will be strapped for points: You can skip this when you need to)

Total of (/) (need to check this it is not right)

===TWC Ranger Discreet Training===

These values are plateaus you should strive to reach at some point in your career.

*1x (5/0) [[Armor Use]]: (Aurach's goal was 110 ranks for a chain hauberk and then 170 ranks post cap to reduce maneuver penalties in hauberk)
*5 ranks of [[Multi Opponent Combat]] (10/4) as soon as you can fit it in. (55 ranks allows you to focus mstrike 3 times per weapon on a single target)
*50 Ranks in [[Climbing]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make climb checks prior to that.
*50 Ranks in [[Swimming]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make swim checks prior to that.
*[[Spiritual Lore, Blessings]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after Getting 650
*[[Spiritual Lore, Summoning]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after getting 650
(your 1 rank of these two lores gives slight increases in many of your spells, low training point cost boosts)

===Spell Research===

My preferred training order: for a two weapon build
601, 101-103, 602-618, 104-107, 619-650, 108-130, Ranger ranks for life 'Aurach Moonshadew'

(other rangers prefer minor spirit 140 and ranger 162 which provides the best CS)

I prefer to get hues, then 101-103, I like having the low mana shield of 102 with this type of character.
After that Mobility is the goal. Then getting deep blues. Then I would head for Aspect.
This is simply my preference looking back on my build.

===Optional Additional Training===

A list of the most common skills to use your additional training points on.

*1x [[Ambush]] when you can fit the ranks in, 1x at cap (more as you feel the need) (I am singled at cap currently and do very well ambushing)
*2x [[Stalking and Hiding]] – If you plan to ambush at cap you will want to 2x this, post cap
*1x-2x [[Survival]] – This will aid skinning, foraging, and overland movement
*1x-2x [[First Aid]] – This will aid in skinning and reduce herb eating RT
*Spiritual Lore: Blessing and Summoning ranger preference, I think it should be gained after ranger spells are maxed
*[[Magic Item Use]] I regret not having this 1x earlier. I did it post cap and love it.
*[[Arcane Symbols]] I regret not having this 1x earlier (immediately after MIU).
*15 ranks [[Spiritual Mana Control]] as soon as you learn it is fun to share and play well with others. 15 ranks is enough to share with most Older Spirit mana using folks (25 ranks post cap if you like).

===Post Cap Goals===

*2x Physical Fitness (immediately at cap or earlier)
*2x [[Combat Maneuvers]] (At cap or earlier)
*2x [[Dodge]] (after maxing ranger spells)
*55 ranks [[Multi-Opponent Combat]] for 6 strikes focused on a single target
[[Thrown Weapons]] may be a very interesting post cap goal, since you will throw both weapons and you already have the required support skill ([[TWC]], [[Perception]], Combat Maneuvers)

'''[[Combat Maneuver]] skills (mine at cap at moment) Post Cap goals:'''
{|{{prettytable}}
|-style = "background:#DDD; color: blue"
!Skill
!Mnemonic
!Ranks
|-align=center
|[[Cunning Defense]]
|cdefense
|5
|-align=center
|[[Combat Movement]]
|cmovement
|5
|-align=center
|[[Hamstring]]
|hamstring
|5
|-align=center
|[[Disarm Weapon]]
|disarm
|5
|-align=center
|[[Shadow Mastery]]
|smastery
|5
|-align=center
|[[Sweep]]
|sweep
|1
|-align=center
|[[Garrote]]
|garrote
|1
|-align=center
|[[Subdual Strike]]
|sstrike
|1
|}

*TWC rangers will find these useful (order of preference for me was Cdefense, Cmovement, Hamstring, Disarm, Smastery)

This is simply how Aurach trained Combat maneuver skills.

==Race==
I would hope race depends largely on the vision you have for your ranger. That being said, Agility and Dexterity are very important to reduce RT. A race that has strength and can manage encumbrance would also be wise.

==What Armor to use?==
Good armor you will need it.

My advice is Double leather, then Brigandine, then hauberk, for Full body coverage. I like the full body coverage as it allows me to wear arm/leg greaves, helm, and aventails, if I choose with no added penalties. I kept my eye out for enhancives on the added armor pieces. Padding crit or damage is always a good choice if you can afford it.

My cap armor is a chain hauberk, with added helm, arm and leg greaves and aventail, it has 11% hinderance. I find the failure acceptable to my style. Some will not. A paladin for fluidity would be fantastic. I also kept training armor to reduce maneuver penalties. Armor skill is also a secondary skill for redux so serves some double duty.

==Keeping your RT manageable==

You will find the links below for Agi/Dex and Two weapon combat RT. The RT is probably the most confusing part of using two weapons. I say this because from time to time, it does not match the documents. Weapon weights, base speed, Agi/Dex, encumberance, and Character strength all affect your RT. (Assume Aspect, Phoen's Strength, Enhancive items, and Wizard strength will be the greatest help here)

To really enjoy and work the two weapon using ranger. You will need to test various combinations of weapons. Early on you might try short sword and gauche for the gauches added DS when used in off hand. Later on perhaps a long sword/short sword when you want to hit harder and keep RT manageable. Too many weapons to list.

==A Rangers Weapon Sets==
There are many weapons to try. Your ranger will have two or possibly three different sets as he heads out on patrol at certain points in thier career. This is where you get to show your rangers individuality.

My carry weapons at cap are: longsword/shortsword set, two hand axe set, and a dagger set. This is not based on min maxing, it is more a collection of style, effectiveness vs heavy armor, and a couple speed weapons for when encumbered by heaps of treasure and skins.

Do not forget to look at blunt weapons if that is more appealing to you.

I can say, that this will be fun. Try all kinds of cheap sets of weapons to get what feels right.
This will evolve as Stats increase, better enhancive items are acquired, and weapon choice vs armor types are considered

So, what feels right now, may change at various training stages and against different types of armor types (critters).

Feras weapons, Flares, Ensorcellment, Weighting (crit and damage) can all boost your effectiveness. You hit twice as often and good combinations of the previous can add great advantages to your ranger.

https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Edged_Weapons
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Roundtime
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat

==TWC Defenses==

'All about that AS that AS , no defense, it's all about the AS'

Ok, so seriously, defenses as a two weapon using ranger. As usual we have some good options available.

'''TWC Parry DS:''' https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat
I cannot explain it better than is listed.

'''Stances:''' No really there are stances other than OFF and DEF. A good understanding of how you can adjust your stance to maintain adequate defense for the current threat and still provide you with enough offensive punch to down your enemies will really help. Your ranger spells have a great variety to help you to do this.

'''TWC Out Right Parry:''' each weapon will provide a 5% chance to parry incoming melee attacks against like level foes in stance offensive (https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Parry) Assume Aspect:Mantis aids nicely with both weapons chances to parry.

'''Bolt Defenses''': Two Weapon Combat style does not offer good bolt defenses (no shield). So, as a ranger we adapt. The ranger spell list and minor spell list will provide a great amount of assistance to our Bolt DS. I would like to focus on those that you can use to finesse things and make your twc ranger even more protected. Minor Spirit Air wall 102, and Fog 106 can be used as well as seeking areas when hunting that provide natural defenses. Your wall of thorns blocking incoming attacks,(later boosted by Aspect Porcupine), and Evasion/dodge (boosted by serpent) however will all aid you greatly. ''Assume Aspect Mantis with a runestaff will parry bolts/arrows as well. (test it)'' Rotating aspects when mana is not the main issue.

'''NOTE: The following Runestaff comments are for much later down the line but am tossing it in here for reference''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying Bolts and arrows. Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This would require a runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider. Test it out if you find the need for more bolt defenses beyond what you get from Wall of Thorns or out right evasion.

'''Evade''' Can be boosted by your Aspect Serpent, I saw a really significant increase here from 21% to 40%.

==runestaff test==
'''NOTE''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying bolts spells, ball spells, and arrows. Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This Would require runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider. Test it out.

An 800 attack test with the mage Drafix's assistance has shown my ranger's wall of thorns stopped about 21% of incoming bolt attacks. 24% were then outright evaded (wearing my hauberk or not wearing it was the same due to armor over training), (this increased to 40% evaded with Aspect Serpent running) and then after that 7% were blocked by the runestaff. Giving an over all total of 51%+ to 67% stopped/evaded/parried.

Also, the % was based on bolt spell by like level caster. I believe the Ball spells and Arrows the % to parry are different. And did not do a deep test of those at this time.

The rune staff below is +8 deringo. (a staff with eblade on it would cost next to nothing) (test for this posting was 8 of 20 and 10 of 27) using mantis against ball spells

''Sepher gestures at you''.

Sepher hurls a roaring ball of fire at you!

You deflect the bolt with your runestaff!

''Sepher nocks a dull black wooden arrow fletched with white-spotted falcon feathers in his sephwir long bow.'' (10/35 against arrows)

Sepher fires a dull black arrow at you!

You deflect the arrow with your runestaff!

The arrow disappears into the local environs.

Now I certainly do not expect everyone using TWC to invest in runestaves. But please remember that was 7% of the over all total attacks, not the ones that got past wall of thorns or were evaded outright) the runestaff seemed to parry about 11% of the bolts it had a chance to parry. So, if bolts become an issue, it is something to consider since you do have magical training as a semi and have a Bolt Weakness using Two weapons. You could also pick up a shield and train it, but the magical skills you have most likely have already trained in.

==Society==

(Anyone want to toss in pro-cons please do so)

Aurach is a member of Voln. Two Weapons against the many non-critable undead has worked rather well.

==See Also==
*[[Ranger]] (main article)
*[[A beginner's guide to playing a ranger]]
http://www.play.net/gs4/info/skills.asp#twoweaponcombat
Evade
Parry

==References==
*[http://www.play.net/gs4/info/professions/rangers.asp Ranger profession on Play.net]

{{stub}}
[[Category:Guides]]
[[Category:Ranger]]
[[Category:Professional Guides]]
[[Category:New Player| ]]

Aurach's Two Weapon Combat Guide: A Ranger's Perspective

2015-02-19T18:36:10Z

SHEN1: /* Why two weapons? */

{{Work-in-progress}}

==The Two Weapon Combat Ranger==
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/File:Twcranger.jpg (need to add this in off to side at some point visibly)

Observations on the style

==Why two weapons?==

Most ambushing rangers and archers can kill with one well placed strike. So too can the two weapon ambushing ranger, but the world has creatures that cannot be critical struck and only massive raw damage will suffice. Enter our hero, weapon in each hand.
'Guts, 'glory, 'Aspects'

For me the style has always been about using your magics and blades together. This is really not a stand in the open and get beat on type of style. You can do that however. I prefer the use of good timing, and a rather large variety of spells to maneuver your opponents into situations favorable to you.

Your greatest strength is your variety of magics, combat maneuver skills, and weapons combined.

From the skills and stats a Ranger can be a very good two weapon user. Great spirit warding, good variety of spells, low costs to train a variety of skills, some of the best attack spells for a semi, great defensive spells all make for a really versatile and easily adjustable character.

While not recommended to try from early on, this style when combined with ambushing and Multi Opponent Combat is absolutely devastating.

==Ranger Spells==
The ranger spell list provides some unique benefits for TWC rangers, both directly and indirectly.

[[606|Phoen's strength (606)]] gives a phantom increase of +10 to [[Strength|strength]] bonus. Strength is incredibly important to keep RT down (encumbrance really affects the left hand weapon).

[[Mobility (618)]] offers a large bonus to Dodge, a TWC rangers primary defense

[[Camouflage (608)]] a +30 AS bonus from camouflage for multiple attacks. Yes both weapons get the bonus from a ranger leaping to ambush or 'plain attacking' from a camo 608 position, so this can be used by non ambusher for the boost if your quick, so you at least get the +30 AS bonus.

[[Wall of Thorns (640)]] of great assistance to a TWC ranger, the best defense is having the trees block for you and not getting hit at all.

[[650|Assume aspect (650)]] is custom made for a TWC ranger, allowing you to tweak your form to meet the current threat or boost a weakness. (alternating between rat and wolf for example maintains a boost to your agi/dex)

All Rangers also benefit from a plethora of set up spells that can complement any weapon style, such as [[Sounds (607)]], [[610|Tangle weed (610)]] , [[Call Swarm (615)]] and Sunburst (609) (note the effects vs undead)

TWC rangers will find great use in the [[Minor Spiritual]] spell circle, especially [[Spirit Barrier (102)]] and [[106|Spirit fog (106)]], to provide added defenses. Note that 102 gives a penalty to [[Attack strength|AS]] so you could [[STOP (verb)|STOP 102]], which removes the spell so you can attack without the penalty making for a creative low mana Shield/stance dance option, also breeze will eliminate 106, however that is mana intensive.

==Two Weapon Combat Training==
The introduction of Fix skills and Fix Stats, will allows new rangers to tweak their efforts with great ease. I suggest Maintain your core training, finesse skills/Stats as starting Stats have increased and allow you to gain more your training points while boosting over all stat totals. (this is an entire topic all it's own) (word smith this it isn't sounding right)

===Two Weapon Combat Ranger Core Training===

This is your base training that every two weapon ranger should have each level.

*2x (6/4) [[Combat Maneuvers]]:
*2x (3/2) [[Two Weapon Combat]]: Note: If you miss a few ranks it will work out, catch up when they become available, I told you, this is a crazy costing training point ranger to do from birth.
*2x (3/1) [[Edged Weapons]] (Blunt weapons can be used, slightly increased training cost, do not over look this if it appeals to your style of ranger)
*1x (4/0) [[Physical Fitness]]: (2x as soon as points are available, no shield, you will be getting hit, you need this)
*1x (7/5) [[Dodge]]
*1x (0/5) [[Harness Power]]
*1x (0/17) [[Spell Research]]: (May have to skip spells a few levels until training points work out)
*1x (0/3) [[Perception]]: take higher at cap (if you can single, go for it, I think you will be strapped for points: You can skip this when you need to)

Total of (/) (need to check this it is not right)

===TWC Ranger Discreet Training===

These values are plateaus you should strive to reach at some point in your career.

*1x (5/0) [[Armor Use]]: (Aurach's goal was 110 ranks for a chain hauberk and then 170 ranks post cap to reduce maneuver penalties in hauberk)
*5 ranks of [[Multi Opponent Combat]] (10/4) as soon as you can fit it in. (55 ranks allows you to focus mstrike 3 times per weapon on a single target)
*50 Ranks in [[Climbing]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make climb checks prior to that.
*50 Ranks in [[Swimming]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make swim checks prior to that.
*[[Spiritual Lore, Blessings]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after Getting 650
*[[Spiritual Lore, Summoning]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after getting 650
(your 1 rank of these two lores gives slight increases in many of your spells, low training point cost boosts)

===Spell Research===

My preferred training order: for a two weapon build
601, 101-103, 602-618, 104-107, 619-650, 108-130, Ranger ranks for life 'Aurach Moonshadew'

(other rangers prefer minor spirit 140 and ranger 162 which provides the best CS)

I prefer to get hues, then 101-103, I like having the low mana shield of 102 with this type of character.
After that Mobility is the goal. Then getting deep blues. Then I would head for Aspect.
This is simply my preference looking back on my build.

===Optional Additional Training===

A list of the most common skills to use your additional training points on.

*1x [[Ambush]] when you can fit the ranks in, 1x at cap (more as you feel the need) (I am singled at cap currently and do very well ambushing)
*2x [[Stalking and Hiding]] – If you plan to ambush at cap you will want to 2x this, post cap
*1x-2x [[Survival]] – This will aid skinning, foraging, and overland movement
*1x-2x [[First Aid]] – This will aid in skinning and reduce herb eating RT
*Spiritual Lore: Blessing and Summoning ranger preference, I think it should be gained after ranger spells are maxed
*[[Magic Item Use]] I regret not having this 1x earlier. I did it post cap and love it.
*[[Arcane Symbols]] I regret not having this 1x earlier (immediately after MIU).
*15 ranks [[Spiritual Mana Control]] as soon as you learn it is fun to share and play well with others. 15 ranks is enough to share with most Older Spirit mana using folks (25 ranks post cap if you like).

===Post Cap Goals===

*2x Physical Fitness (immediately at cap or earlier)
*2x [[Combat Maneuvers]] (At cap or earlier)
*2x [[Dodge]] (after maxing ranger spells)
*55 ranks [[Multi-Opponent Combat]] for 6 strikes focused on a single target
[[Thrown Weapons]] may be a very interesting post cap goal, since you will throw both weapons and you already have the required support skill ([[TWC]], [[Perception]], Combat Maneuvers)

'''[[Combat Maneuver]] skills (mine at cap at moment) Post Cap goals:'''
{|{{prettytable}}
|-style = "background:#DDD; color: blue"
!Skill
!Mnemonic
!Ranks
|-align=center
|[[Cunning Defense]]
|cdefense
|5
|-align=center
|[[Combat Movement]]
|cmovement
|5
|-align=center
|[[Hamstring]]
|hamstring
|5
|-align=center
|[[Disarm Weapon]]
|disarm
|5
|-align=center
|[[Shadow Mastery]]
|smastery
|5
|-align=center
|[[Sweep]]
|sweep
|1
|-align=center
|[[Garrote]]
|garrote
|1
|-align=center
|[[Subdual Strike]]
|sstrike
|1
|}

*TWC rangers will find these useful (order of preference for me was Cdefense, Cmovement, Hamstring, Disarm, Smastery)

This is simply how Aurach trained Combat maneuver skills.

==Race==
I would hope race depends largely on the vision you have for your ranger. That being said, Agility and Dexterity are very important to reduce RT. A race that has strength and can manage encumbrance would also be wise.

==What Armor to use?==
Good armor you will need it.

My advice is Double leather, then Brigandine, then hauberk, for Full body coverage. I like the full body coverage as it allows me to wear arm/leg greaves, helm, and aventails, if I choose with no added penalties. I kept my eye out for enhancives on the added armor pieces. Padding crit or damage is always a good choice if you can afford it.

My cap armor is a chain hauberk, with added helm, arm and leg greaves and aventail, it has 11% hinderance. I find the failure acceptable to my style. Some will not. A paladin for fluidity would be fantastic. I also kept training armor to reduce maneuver penalties. Armor skill is also a secondary skill for redux so serves some double duty.

==Keeping your RT manageable==

You will find the links below for Agi/Dex and Two weapon combat RT. The RT is probably the most confusing part of using two weapons. I say this because from time to time, it does not match the documents. Weapon weights, base speed, Agi/Dex, encumberance, and Character strength all affect your RT. (Assume Aspect, Phoen's Strength, Enhancive items, and Wizard strength will be the greatest help here)

To really enjoy and work the two weapon using ranger. You will need to test various combinations of weapons. Early on you might try short sword and gauche for the gauches added DS when used in off hand. Later on perhaps a long sword/short sword when you want to hit harder and keep RT manageable. Too many weapons to list.

==A Rangers Weapon Sets==
There are many weapons to try. Your ranger will have two or possibly three different sets as he heads out on patrol at certain points in thier career. This is where you get to show your rangers individuality.

My carry weapons at cap are: longsword/shortsword set, two hand axe set, and a dagger set. This is not based on min maxing, it is more a collection of style, effectiveness vs heavy armor, and a couple speed weapons for when encumbered by heaps of treasure and skins.

Do not forget to look at blunt weapons if that is more appealing to you.

I can say, that this will be fun. Try all kinds of cheap sets of weapons to get what feels right.
This will evolve as Stats increase, better enhancive items are acquired, and weapon choice vs armor types are considered

So, what feels right now, may change at various training stages and against different types of armor types (critters).

Feras weapons, Flares, Ensorcellment, Weighting (crit and damage) can all boost your effectiveness. You hit twice as often and good combinations of the previous can add great advantages to your ranger.

https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Edged_Weapons
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Roundtime
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat

==TWC Defenses==

'All about that AS that AS , no defense, it's all about the AS'

Ok, so seriously, defenses as a two weapon using ranger. As usual we have some good options available.

'''TWC Parry DS:''' https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat
I cannot explain it better than is listed.

'''Stances:''' No really there are stances other than OFF and DEF. A good understanding of how you can adjust your stance to maintain adequate defense for the current threat and still provide you with enough offensive punch to down your enemies will really help. Your ranger spells have a great variety to help you to do this.

'''TWC Out Right Parry:''' each weapon will provide a 5% chance to parry incoming melee attacks against like level foes in stance offensive (https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Parry) Assume Aspect:Mantis aids nicely with both weapons chances to parry.

'''Bolt Defenses''': Two Weapon Combat style does not offer good bolt defenses (no shield). So, as a ranger we adapt. The ranger spell list and minor spell list will provide a great amount of assistance to our Bolt DS. I would like to focus on those that you can use to finesse things and make your twc ranger even more protected. Minor Spirit Air wall 102, and Fog 106 can be used as well as seeking areas when hunting that provide natural defenses. Your wall of thorns blocking incoming attacks,(later boosted by Aspect Porcupine), and Evasion/dodge (boosted by serpent) however will all aid you greatly. ''Assume Aspect Mantis with a runestaff will parry bolts/arrows as well. (test it)'' Rotating aspects when mana is not the main issue.

'''NOTE: The following Runestaff comments are for much later down the line but am tossing it in here for reference''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying Bolts and arrows. Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This would require a runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider. Test it out if you find the need for more bolt defenses beyond what you get from Wall of Thorns or out right evasion.

'''Evade''' Can be boosted by your Aspect Serpent, I saw a really significant increase here from 21% to 40%.

==runestaff test==
'''NOTE''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying bolts spells, ball spells, and arrows. Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This Would require runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider. Test it out.

An 800 attack test with the mage Drafix's assistance has shown my ranger's wall of thorns stopped about 21% of incoming bolt attacks. 24% were then outright evaded (wearing my hauberk or not wearing it was the same due to armor over training), (this increased to 40% evaded with Aspect Serpent running) and then after that 7% were blocked by the runestaff. Giving an over all total of 51%+ to 67% stopped/evaded/parried.

Also, the % was based on bolt spell by like level caster. I believe the Ball spells and Arrows the % to parry are different. And did not do a deep test of those at this time.

The rune staff below is +8 deringo. (a staff with eblade on it would cost next to nothing) (test for this posting was 8 of 20 and 10 of 27) using mantis against ball spells

''Sepher gestures at you''.

Sepher hurls a roaring ball of fire at you!

You deflect the bolt with your runestaff!

''Sepher nocks a dull black wooden arrow fletched with white-spotted falcon feathers in his sephwir long bow.'' (10/35 against arrows)

Sepher fires a dull black arrow at you!

You deflect the arrow with your runestaff!

The arrow disappears into the local environs.

Now I certainly do not expect everyone using TWC to invest in runestaves. But please remember that was 7% of the over all total attacks, not the ones that got past wall of thorns or were evaded outright) the runestaff seemed to parry about 11% of the bolts it had a chance to parry. So, if bolts become an issue, it is something to consider since you do have magical training as a semi and have a Bolt Weakness using Two weapons. You could also pick up a shield and train it, but the magical skills you have most likely have already trained in.

==Society==

(Anyone want to toss in pro-cons please do so)

Aurach is a member of Voln. Two Weapons against the many non-critable undead has worked rather well.

==See Also==
*[[Ranger]] (main article)
*[[A beginner's guide to playing a ranger]]
http://www.play.net/gs4/info/skills.asp#twoweaponcombat
Evade
Parry

==References==
*[http://www.play.net/gs4/info/professions/rangers.asp Ranger profession on Play.net]

{{stub}}
[[Category:Guides]]
[[Category:Ranger]]
[[Category:Professional Guides]]
[[Category:New Player| ]]

Aurach's Two Weapon Combat Guide: A Ranger's Perspective

2015-02-19T18:25:55Z

SHEN1: /* TWC Defenses */

{{Work-in-progress}}

==The Two Weapon Combat Ranger==
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/File:Twcranger.jpg (need to add this in off to side at some point visibly)

Observations on the style

==Why two weapons?==

Most ambushing rangers and archers can kill with one well placed strike. So too can the two weapon ambushing ranger, but the world has creatures that cannot be critical struck and only massive raw damage will suffice.

For me the style has always been about using your magics and blades together. This is really not a stand in the open and get beat on type of style. You can do that however. I prefer the use of good timing, and a rather large variety of spells to maneuver your opponents into situations favorable to you.

Your greatest strength is your variety of magics, combat maneuver skills, and weapons combined.

From the skills and stats a Ranger can be a very good two weapon user. Great spirit warding, good variety of spells, low costs to train a variety of skills, some of the best attack spells for a semi, great defensive spells all make for a really versatile and easily adjustable character.

While not recommended to try from early on, this style when combined with ambushing and Multi Opponent Combat is absolutely devastating.

==Ranger Spells==
The ranger spell list provides some unique benefits for TWC rangers, both directly and indirectly.

[[606|Phoen's strength (606)]] gives a phantom increase of +10 to [[Strength|strength]] bonus. Strength is incredibly important to keep RT down (encumbrance really affects the left hand weapon).

[[Mobility (618)]] offers a large bonus to Dodge, a TWC rangers primary defense

[[Camouflage (608)]] a +30 AS bonus from camouflage for multiple attacks. Yes both weapons get the bonus from a ranger leaping to ambush or 'plain attacking' from a camo 608 position, so this can be used by non ambusher for the boost if your quick, so you at least get the +30 AS bonus.

[[Wall of Thorns (640)]] of great assistance to a TWC ranger, the best defense is having the trees block for you and not getting hit at all.

[[650|Assume aspect (650)]] is custom made for a TWC ranger, allowing you to tweak your form to meet the current threat or boost a weakness. (alternating between rat and wolf for example maintains a boost to your agi/dex)

All Rangers also benefit from a plethora of set up spells that can complement any weapon style, such as [[Sounds (607)]], [[610|Tangle weed (610)]] , [[Call Swarm (615)]] and Sunburst (609) (note the effects vs undead)

TWC rangers will find great use in the [[Minor Spiritual]] spell circle, especially [[Spirit Barrier (102)]] and [[106|Spirit fog (106)]], to provide added defenses. Note that 102 gives a penalty to [[Attack strength|AS]] so you could [[STOP (verb)|STOP 102]], which removes the spell so you can attack without the penalty making for a creative low mana Shield/stance dance option, also breeze will eliminate 106, however that is mana intensive.

==Two Weapon Combat Training==
The introduction of Fix skills and Fix Stats, will allows new rangers to tweak their efforts with great ease. I suggest Maintain your core training, finesse skills/Stats as starting Stats have increased and allow you to gain more your training points while boosting over all stat totals. (this is an entire topic all it's own) (word smith this it isn't sounding right)

===Two Weapon Combat Ranger Core Training===

This is your base training that every two weapon ranger should have each level.

*2x (6/4) [[Combat Maneuvers]]:
*2x (3/2) [[Two Weapon Combat]]: Note: If you miss a few ranks it will work out, catch up when they become available, I told you, this is a crazy costing training point ranger to do from birth.
*2x (3/1) [[Edged Weapons]] (Blunt weapons can be used, slightly increased training cost, do not over look this if it appeals to your style of ranger)
*1x (4/0) [[Physical Fitness]]: (2x as soon as points are available, no shield, you will be getting hit, you need this)
*1x (7/5) [[Dodge]]
*1x (0/5) [[Harness Power]]
*1x (0/17) [[Spell Research]]: (May have to skip spells a few levels until training points work out)
*1x (0/3) [[Perception]]: take higher at cap (if you can single, go for it, I think you will be strapped for points: You can skip this when you need to)

Total of (/) (need to check this it is not right)

===TWC Ranger Discreet Training===

These values are plateaus you should strive to reach at some point in your career.

*1x (5/0) [[Armor Use]]: (Aurach's goal was 110 ranks for a chain hauberk and then 170 ranks post cap to reduce maneuver penalties in hauberk)
*5 ranks of [[Multi Opponent Combat]] (10/4) as soon as you can fit it in. (55 ranks allows you to focus mstrike 3 times per weapon on a single target)
*50 Ranks in [[Climbing]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make climb checks prior to that.
*50 Ranks in [[Swimming]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make swim checks prior to that.
*[[Spiritual Lore, Blessings]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after Getting 650
*[[Spiritual Lore, Summoning]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after getting 650
(your 1 rank of these two lores gives slight increases in many of your spells, low training point cost boosts)

===Spell Research===

My preferred training order: for a two weapon build
601, 101-103, 602-618, 104-107, 619-650, 108-130, Ranger ranks for life 'Aurach Moonshadew'

(other rangers prefer minor spirit 140 and ranger 162 which provides the best CS)

I prefer to get hues, then 101-103, I like having the low mana shield of 102 with this type of character.
After that Mobility is the goal. Then getting deep blues. Then I would head for Aspect.
This is simply my preference looking back on my build.

===Optional Additional Training===

A list of the most common skills to use your additional training points on.

*1x [[Ambush]] when you can fit the ranks in, 1x at cap (more as you feel the need) (I am singled at cap currently and do very well ambushing)
*2x [[Stalking and Hiding]] – If you plan to ambush at cap you will want to 2x this, post cap
*1x-2x [[Survival]] – This will aid skinning, foraging, and overland movement
*1x-2x [[First Aid]] – This will aid in skinning and reduce herb eating RT
*Spiritual Lore: Blessing and Summoning ranger preference, I think it should be gained after ranger spells are maxed
*[[Magic Item Use]] I regret not having this 1x earlier. I did it post cap and love it.
*[[Arcane Symbols]] I regret not having this 1x earlier (immediately after MIU).
*15 ranks [[Spiritual Mana Control]] as soon as you learn it is fun to share and play well with others. 15 ranks is enough to share with most Older Spirit mana using folks (25 ranks post cap if you like).

===Post Cap Goals===

*2x Physical Fitness (immediately at cap or earlier)
*2x [[Combat Maneuvers]] (At cap or earlier)
*2x [[Dodge]] (after maxing ranger spells)
*55 ranks [[Multi-Opponent Combat]] for 6 strikes focused on a single target
[[Thrown Weapons]] may be a very interesting post cap goal, since you will throw both weapons and you already have the required support skill ([[TWC]], [[Perception]], Combat Maneuvers)

'''[[Combat Maneuver]] skills (mine at cap at moment) Post Cap goals:'''
{|{{prettytable}}
|-style = "background:#DDD; color: blue"
!Skill
!Mnemonic
!Ranks
|-align=center
|[[Cunning Defense]]
|cdefense
|5
|-align=center
|[[Combat Movement]]
|cmovement
|5
|-align=center
|[[Hamstring]]
|hamstring
|5
|-align=center
|[[Disarm Weapon]]
|disarm
|5
|-align=center
|[[Shadow Mastery]]
|smastery
|5
|-align=center
|[[Sweep]]
|sweep
|1
|-align=center
|[[Garrote]]
|garrote
|1
|-align=center
|[[Subdual Strike]]
|sstrike
|1
|}

*TWC rangers will find these useful (order of preference for me was Cdefense, Cmovement, Hamstring, Disarm, Smastery)

This is simply how Aurach trained Combat maneuver skills.

==Race==
I would hope race depends largely on the vision you have for your ranger. That being said, Agility and Dexterity are very important to reduce RT. A race that has strength and can manage encumbrance would also be wise.

==What Armor to use?==
Good armor you will need it.

My advice is Double leather, then Brigandine, then hauberk, for Full body coverage. I like the full body coverage as it allows me to wear arm/leg greaves, helm, and aventails, if I choose with no added penalties. I kept my eye out for enhancives on the added armor pieces. Padding crit or damage is always a good choice if you can afford it.

My cap armor is a chain hauberk, with added helm, arm and leg greaves and aventail, it has 11% hinderance. I find the failure acceptable to my style. Some will not. A paladin for fluidity would be fantastic. I also kept training armor to reduce maneuver penalties. Armor skill is also a secondary skill for redux so serves some double duty.

==Keeping your RT manageable==

You will find the links below for Agi/Dex and Two weapon combat RT. The RT is probably the most confusing part of using two weapons. I say this because from time to time, it does not match the documents. Weapon weights, base speed, Agi/Dex, encumberance, and Character strength all affect your RT. (Assume Aspect, Phoen's Strength, Enhancive items, and Wizard strength will be the greatest help here)

To really enjoy and work the two weapon using ranger. You will need to test various combinations of weapons. Early on you might try short sword and gauche for the gauches added DS when used in off hand. Later on perhaps a long sword/short sword when you want to hit harder and keep RT manageable. Too many weapons to list.

==A Rangers Weapon Sets==
There are many weapons to try. Your ranger will have two or possibly three different sets as he heads out on patrol at certain points in thier career. This is where you get to show your rangers individuality.

My carry weapons at cap are: longsword/shortsword set, two hand axe set, and a dagger set. This is not based on min maxing, it is more a collection of style, effectiveness vs heavy armor, and a couple speed weapons for when encumbered by heaps of treasure and skins.

Do not forget to look at blunt weapons if that is more appealing to you.

I can say, that this will be fun. Try all kinds of cheap sets of weapons to get what feels right.
This will evolve as Stats increase, better enhancive items are acquired, and weapon choice vs armor types are considered

So, what feels right now, may change at various training stages and against different types of armor types (critters).

Feras weapons, Flares, Ensorcellment, Weighting (crit and damage) can all boost your effectiveness. You hit twice as often and good combinations of the previous can add great advantages to your ranger.

https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Edged_Weapons
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Roundtime
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat

==TWC Defenses==

'All about that AS that AS , no defense, it's all about the AS'

Ok, so seriously, defenses as a two weapon using ranger. As usual we have some good options available.

'''TWC Parry DS:''' https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat
I cannot explain it better than is listed.

'''Stances:''' No really there are stances other than OFF and DEF. A good understanding of how you can adjust your stance to maintain adequate defense for the current threat and still provide you with enough offensive punch to down your enemies will really help. Your ranger spells have a great variety to help you to do this.

'''TWC Out Right Parry:''' each weapon will provide a 5% chance to parry incoming melee attacks against like level foes in stance offensive (https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Parry) Assume Aspect:Mantis aids nicely with both weapons chances to parry.

'''Bolt Defenses''': Two Weapon Combat style does not offer good bolt defenses (no shield). So, as a ranger we adapt. The ranger spell list and minor spell list will provide a great amount of assistance to our Bolt DS. I would like to focus on those that you can use to finesse things and make your twc ranger even more protected. Minor Spirit Air wall 102, and Fog 106 can be used as well as seeking areas when hunting that provide natural defenses. Your wall of thorns blocking incoming attacks,(later boosted by Aspect Porcupine), and Evasion/dodge (boosted by serpent) however will all aid you greatly. ''Assume Aspect Mantis with a runestaff will parry bolts/arrows as well. (test it)'' Rotating aspects when mana is not the main issue.

'''NOTE: The following Runestaff comments are for much later down the line but am tossing it in here for reference''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying Bolts and arrows. Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This would require a runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider. Test it out if you find the need for more bolt defenses beyond what you get from Wall of Thorns or out right evasion.

'''Evade''' Can be boosted by your Aspect Serpent, I saw a really significant increase here from 21% to 40%.

==runestaff test==
'''NOTE''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying bolts spells, ball spells, and arrows. Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This Would require runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider. Test it out.

An 800 attack test with the mage Drafix's assistance has shown my ranger's wall of thorns stopped about 21% of incoming bolt attacks. 24% were then outright evaded (wearing my hauberk or not wearing it was the same due to armor over training), (this increased to 40% evaded with Aspect Serpent running) and then after that 7% were blocked by the runestaff. Giving an over all total of 51%+ to 67% stopped/evaded/parried.

Also, the % was based on bolt spell by like level caster. I believe the Ball spells and Arrows the % to parry are different. And did not do a deep test of those at this time.

The rune staff below is +8 deringo. (a staff with eblade on it would cost next to nothing) (test for this posting was 8 of 20 and 10 of 27) using mantis against ball spells

''Sepher gestures at you''.

Sepher hurls a roaring ball of fire at you!

You deflect the bolt with your runestaff!

''Sepher nocks a dull black wooden arrow fletched with white-spotted falcon feathers in his sephwir long bow.'' (10/35 against arrows)

Sepher fires a dull black arrow at you!

You deflect the arrow with your runestaff!

The arrow disappears into the local environs.

Now I certainly do not expect everyone using TWC to invest in runestaves. But please remember that was 7% of the over all total attacks, not the ones that got past wall of thorns or were evaded outright) the runestaff seemed to parry about 11% of the bolts it had a chance to parry. So, if bolts become an issue, it is something to consider since you do have magical training as a semi and have a Bolt Weakness using Two weapons. You could also pick up a shield and train it, but the magical skills you have most likely have already trained in.

==Society==

(Anyone want to toss in pro-cons please do so)

Aurach is a member of Voln. Two Weapons against the many non-critable undead has worked rather well.

==See Also==
*[[Ranger]] (main article)
*[[A beginner's guide to playing a ranger]]
http://www.play.net/gs4/info/skills.asp#twoweaponcombat
Evade
Parry

==References==
*[http://www.play.net/gs4/info/professions/rangers.asp Ranger profession on Play.net]

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Aurach's Two Weapon Combat Guide: A Ranger's Perspective

2015-02-19T18:22:50Z

SHEN1: /* TWC Defenses */

{{Work-in-progress}}

==The Two Weapon Combat Ranger==
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/File:Twcranger.jpg (need to add this in off to side at some point visibly)

Observations on the style

==Why two weapons?==

Most ambushing rangers and archers can kill with one well placed strike. So too can the two weapon ambushing ranger, but the world has creatures that cannot be critical struck and only massive raw damage will suffice.

For me the style has always been about using your magics and blades together. This is really not a stand in the open and get beat on type of style. You can do that however. I prefer the use of good timing, and a rather large variety of spells to maneuver your opponents into situations favorable to you.

Your greatest strength is your variety of magics, combat maneuver skills, and weapons combined.

From the skills and stats a Ranger can be a very good two weapon user. Great spirit warding, good variety of spells, low costs to train a variety of skills, some of the best attack spells for a semi, great defensive spells all make for a really versatile and easily adjustable character.

While not recommended to try from early on, this style when combined with ambushing and Multi Opponent Combat is absolutely devastating.

==Ranger Spells==
The ranger spell list provides some unique benefits for TWC rangers, both directly and indirectly.

[[606|Phoen's strength (606)]] gives a phantom increase of +10 to [[Strength|strength]] bonus. Strength is incredibly important to keep RT down (encumbrance really affects the left hand weapon).

[[Mobility (618)]] offers a large bonus to Dodge, a TWC rangers primary defense

[[Camouflage (608)]] a +30 AS bonus from camouflage for multiple attacks. Yes both weapons get the bonus from a ranger leaping to ambush or 'plain attacking' from a camo 608 position, so this can be used by non ambusher for the boost if your quick, so you at least get the +30 AS bonus.

[[Wall of Thorns (640)]] of great assistance to a TWC ranger, the best defense is having the trees block for you and not getting hit at all.

[[650|Assume aspect (650)]] is custom made for a TWC ranger, allowing you to tweak your form to meet the current threat or boost a weakness. (alternating between rat and wolf for example maintains a boost to your agi/dex)

All Rangers also benefit from a plethora of set up spells that can complement any weapon style, such as [[Sounds (607)]], [[610|Tangle weed (610)]] , [[Call Swarm (615)]] and Sunburst (609) (note the effects vs undead)

TWC rangers will find great use in the [[Minor Spiritual]] spell circle, especially [[Spirit Barrier (102)]] and [[106|Spirit fog (106)]], to provide added defenses. Note that 102 gives a penalty to [[Attack strength|AS]] so you could [[STOP (verb)|STOP 102]], which removes the spell so you can attack without the penalty making for a creative low mana Shield/stance dance option, also breeze will eliminate 106, however that is mana intensive.

==Two Weapon Combat Training==
The introduction of Fix skills and Fix Stats, will allows new rangers to tweak their efforts with great ease. I suggest Maintain your core training, finesse skills/Stats as starting Stats have increased and allow you to gain more your training points while boosting over all stat totals. (this is an entire topic all it's own) (word smith this it isn't sounding right)

===Two Weapon Combat Ranger Core Training===

This is your base training that every two weapon ranger should have each level.

*2x (6/4) [[Combat Maneuvers]]:
*2x (3/2) [[Two Weapon Combat]]: Note: If you miss a few ranks it will work out, catch up when they become available, I told you, this is a crazy costing training point ranger to do from birth.
*2x (3/1) [[Edged Weapons]] (Blunt weapons can be used, slightly increased training cost, do not over look this if it appeals to your style of ranger)
*1x (4/0) [[Physical Fitness]]: (2x as soon as points are available, no shield, you will be getting hit, you need this)
*1x (7/5) [[Dodge]]
*1x (0/5) [[Harness Power]]
*1x (0/17) [[Spell Research]]: (May have to skip spells a few levels until training points work out)
*1x (0/3) [[Perception]]: take higher at cap (if you can single, go for it, I think you will be strapped for points: You can skip this when you need to)

Total of (/) (need to check this it is not right)

===TWC Ranger Discreet Training===

These values are plateaus you should strive to reach at some point in your career.

*1x (5/0) [[Armor Use]]: (Aurach's goal was 110 ranks for a chain hauberk and then 170 ranks post cap to reduce maneuver penalties in hauberk)
*5 ranks of [[Multi Opponent Combat]] (10/4) as soon as you can fit it in. (55 ranks allows you to focus mstrike 3 times per weapon on a single target)
*50 Ranks in [[Climbing]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make climb checks prior to that.
*50 Ranks in [[Swimming]] (2/0) by level 100, train this as needed to make swim checks prior to that.
*[[Spiritual Lore, Blessings]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after Getting 650
*[[Spiritual Lore, Summoning]] (0/10) 1 rank as soon as you can fit it in after getting 650
(your 1 rank of these two lores gives slight increases in many of your spells, low training point cost boosts)

===Spell Research===

My preferred training order: for a two weapon build
601, 101-103, 602-618, 104-107, 619-650, 108-130, Ranger ranks for life 'Aurach Moonshadew'

(other rangers prefer minor spirit 140 and ranger 162 which provides the best CS)

I prefer to get hues, then 101-103, I like having the low mana shield of 102 with this type of character.
After that Mobility is the goal. Then getting deep blues. Then I would head for Aspect.
This is simply my preference looking back on my build.

===Optional Additional Training===

A list of the most common skills to use your additional training points on.

*1x [[Ambush]] when you can fit the ranks in, 1x at cap (more as you feel the need) (I am singled at cap currently and do very well ambushing)
*2x [[Stalking and Hiding]] – If you plan to ambush at cap you will want to 2x this, post cap
*1x-2x [[Survival]] – This will aid skinning, foraging, and overland movement
*1x-2x [[First Aid]] – This will aid in skinning and reduce herb eating RT
*Spiritual Lore: Blessing and Summoning ranger preference, I think it should be gained after ranger spells are maxed
*[[Magic Item Use]] I regret not having this 1x earlier. I did it post cap and love it.
*[[Arcane Symbols]] I regret not having this 1x earlier (immediately after MIU).
*15 ranks [[Spiritual Mana Control]] as soon as you learn it is fun to share and play well with others. 15 ranks is enough to share with most Older Spirit mana using folks (25 ranks post cap if you like).

===Post Cap Goals===

*2x Physical Fitness (immediately at cap or earlier)
*2x [[Combat Maneuvers]] (At cap or earlier)
*2x [[Dodge]] (after maxing ranger spells)
*55 ranks [[Multi-Opponent Combat]] for 6 strikes focused on a single target
[[Thrown Weapons]] may be a very interesting post cap goal, since you will throw both weapons and you already have the required support skill ([[TWC]], [[Perception]], Combat Maneuvers)

'''[[Combat Maneuver]] skills (mine at cap at moment) Post Cap goals:'''
{|{{prettytable}}
|-style = "background:#DDD; color: blue"
!Skill
!Mnemonic
!Ranks
|-align=center
|[[Cunning Defense]]
|cdefense
|5
|-align=center
|[[Combat Movement]]
|cmovement
|5
|-align=center
|[[Hamstring]]
|hamstring
|5
|-align=center
|[[Disarm Weapon]]
|disarm
|5
|-align=center
|[[Shadow Mastery]]
|smastery
|5
|-align=center
|[[Sweep]]
|sweep
|1
|-align=center
|[[Garrote]]
|garrote
|1
|-align=center
|[[Subdual Strike]]
|sstrike
|1
|}

*TWC rangers will find these useful (order of preference for me was Cdefense, Cmovement, Hamstring, Disarm, Smastery)

This is simply how Aurach trained Combat maneuver skills.

==Race==
I would hope race depends largely on the vision you have for your ranger. That being said, Agility and Dexterity are very important to reduce RT. A race that has strength and can manage encumbrance would also be wise.

==What Armor to use?==
Good armor you will need it.

My advice is Double leather, then Brigandine, then hauberk, for Full body coverage. I like the full body coverage as it allows me to wear arm/leg greaves, helm, and aventails, if I choose with no added penalties. I kept my eye out for enhancives on the added armor pieces. Padding crit or damage is always a good choice if you can afford it.

My cap armor is a chain hauberk, with added helm, arm and leg greaves and aventail, it has 11% hinderance. I find the failure acceptable to my style. Some will not. A paladin for fluidity would be fantastic. I also kept training armor to reduce maneuver penalties. Armor skill is also a secondary skill for redux so serves some double duty.

==Keeping your RT manageable==

You will find the links below for Agi/Dex and Two weapon combat RT. The RT is probably the most confusing part of using two weapons. I say this because from time to time, it does not match the documents. Weapon weights, base speed, Agi/Dex, encumberance, and Character strength all affect your RT. (Assume Aspect, Phoen's Strength, Enhancive items, and Wizard strength will be the greatest help here)

To really enjoy and work the two weapon using ranger. You will need to test various combinations of weapons. Early on you might try short sword and gauche for the gauches added DS when used in off hand. Later on perhaps a long sword/short sword when you want to hit harder and keep RT manageable. Too many weapons to list.

==A Rangers Weapon Sets==
There are many weapons to try. Your ranger will have two or possibly three different sets as he heads out on patrol at certain points in thier career. This is where you get to show your rangers individuality.

My carry weapons at cap are: longsword/shortsword set, two hand axe set, and a dagger set. This is not based on min maxing, it is more a collection of style, effectiveness vs heavy armor, and a couple speed weapons for when encumbered by heaps of treasure and skins.

Do not forget to look at blunt weapons if that is more appealing to you.

I can say, that this will be fun. Try all kinds of cheap sets of weapons to get what feels right.
This will evolve as Stats increase, better enhancive items are acquired, and weapon choice vs armor types are considered

So, what feels right now, may change at various training stages and against different types of armor types (critters).

Feras weapons, Flares, Ensorcellment, Weighting (crit and damage) can all boost your effectiveness. You hit twice as often and good combinations of the previous can add great advantages to your ranger.

https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Edged_Weapons
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Roundtime
https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat

==TWC Defenses==

'All about that AS that AS , no defense, it's all about the AS'

Ok, so seriously, defenses as a two weapon using ranger. As usual we have some good options available.

'''TWC Parry DS:''' https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Two_Weapon_Combat
I cannot explain it better than is listed.

'''Stances:''' No really there are stances other than OFF and DEF. A good understanding of how you can adjust your stance to maintain adequate defense for the current threat and still provide you with enough offensive punch to down your enemies will really help. Your ranger spells have a great variety to help you to do this.

'''TWC Out Right Parry:''' each weapon will provide a 5% chance to parry incoming melee attacks against like level foes in stance offensive (https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Parry) Assume Aspect:Mantis aids nicely with both weapons chances to parry.

'''Bolt Defenses''': Two Weapon Combat style does not offer good bolt defenses (no shield). So, as a ranger we adapt. The ranger spell list and minor spell list will provide a great amount of assistance to our Bolt DS. I would like to focus on those that you can use to finesse things and make your twc ranger even more protected. Minor Spirit Air wall 102, and Fog 106 can be used as well as seeking areas when hunting that provide natural defenses. Your wall of thorns blocking incoming attacks,(later boosted by Aspect Porcupine), and Evasion/dodge (boosted by serpent) however will all aid you greatly. ''Assume Aspect Mantis with a runestaff will parry bolts/arrows as well. (test it)'' Rotating aspects when mana is not the main issue.

'''NOTE: The following Runestaff comments are for much later down the line but am tossing it in here for reference''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying Bolts and arrows. Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This Would require a runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider. Test it out if you find the need for more bolt defenses beyond what you get from Wall of Thorns or out right evasion.

'''Evade''' Can be boosted by your Aspect Serpent, I saw a really significant increase here from 21% to 40%.

==runestaff test==
'''NOTE''': A rune staff will offer a chance at parrying bolts spells, ball spells, and arrows. Since you are a semi, you have most likely already trained some magical skills, so this is something you may wish to consider. This Would require runestaff in one hand and an offhand weapon in the other and stowing runestaff and drawing main weapon. Just an option to consider. Test it out.

An 800 attack test with the mage Drafix's assistance has shown my ranger's wall of thorns stopped about 21% of incoming bolt attacks. 24% were then outright evaded (wearing my hauberk or not wearing it was the same due to armor over training), (this increased to 40% evaded with Aspect Serpent running) and then after that 7% were blocked by the runestaff. Giving an over all total of 51%+ to 67% stopped/evaded/parried.

Also, the % was based on bolt spell by like level caster. I believe the Ball spells and Arrows the % to parry are different. And did not do a deep test of those at this time.

The rune staff below is +8 deringo. (a staff with eblade on it would cost next to nothing) (test for this posting was 8 of 20 and 10 of 27) using mantis against ball spells

''Sepher gestures at you''.

Sepher hurls a roaring ball of fire at you!

You deflect the bolt with your runestaff!

''Sepher nocks a dull black wooden arrow fletched with white-spotted falcon feathers in his sephwir long bow.'' (10/35 against arrows)

Sepher fires a dull black arrow at you!

You deflect the arrow with your runestaff!

The arrow disappears into the local environs.

Now I certainly do not expect everyone using TWC to invest in runestaves. But please remember that was 7% of the over all total attacks, not the ones that got past wall of thorns or were evaded outright) the runestaff seemed to parry about 11% of the bolts it had a chance to parry. So, if bolts become an issue, it is something to consider since you do have magical training as a semi and have a Bolt Weakness using Two weapons. You could also pick up a shield and train it, but the magical skills you have most likely have already trained in.

==Society==

(Anyone want to toss in pro-cons please do so)

Aurach is a member of Voln. Two Weapons against the many non-critable undead has worked rather well.

==See Also==
*[[Ranger]] (main article)
*[[A beginner's guide to playing a ranger]]
http://www.play.net/gs4/info/skills.asp#twoweaponcombat
Evade
Parry

==References==
*[http://www.play.net/gs4/info/professions/rangers.asp Ranger profession on Play.net]

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[[Category:Ranger]]
[[Category:Professional Guides]]
[[Category:New Player| ]]