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'''Feel free to drop it here! Please add <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> following your message so I can easily identify who left it and when. Thank you!''' [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:56, 3 July 2024 (CDT)

HOST-GSKEBECHET (talk | contribs) (Added back in the OTS analyze and rearranged a couple things to conform with item script style guide.)

You added back in the Tier 1 analyze in the OTS section. [[User:GS4ALASTIR|GS4ALASTIR]] ([[User talk:GS4ALASTIR|talk]]) 10:46, 25 April 2023 (CDT)

Hello, I added a line that Stormyrain gave permission to use the image of the Sisters on the wiki [[User:STACYWALTER|STACYWALTER]] ([[User talk:STACYWALTER|talk]]) 06:16, 12 October 2023 (CDT)

You're doing great work. Thank you, I appreciate it. [[User:VANKRASN39|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39|talk]]) 11:42, 7 November 2023 (CST)
:Thank you! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]])

Hi, I got your message about the copywrite problems with my image. I created the image myself using Artflow.ai but I have literally no idea how to comply with your request and I can barely even understand it. I cant find the Discord page you linked to either. Could you please walk me through this step by step? I have almost no skill at coding or using the wiki...I created my page by simple cut and paste and rewriting.

Thank you,
Toxyrox

PS if it would be easier on Discord, my username there is Avondell.
:Thank you very much! I have responded on your talk page.[[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:37, 15 November 2023 (CST)

Go ahead and delete the image 'Bochser 1.jpg' I just uploaded it to test my script that would allow people to view character portraits in game by directing them to their Wiki character profile and I had no idea it would be such a hassle to just upload an image. - Tgo01

Hello Kebechet! I did an oopsie last night and created a [[:Category:Profession Services|Profession Services]] category... and this morning, I realized there is a [[Player service]] page that should probably actually be the page used for the Profession Services category. Is there anyway that you know of to combine the two, under the 'Player Service' name/page? Thanks, and apologies for any hassles this has created! [[User:GS4-OPTHERIA|GS4-OPTHERIA]] ([[User talk:GS4-OPTHERIA|talk]]) 12:22, 18 November 2024 (CST)
:Hello! I ran the topic by the Wiki team, and after confirming have consolidated the information. The category has been updated to be [[:Category:Profession services|Profession services]] to conform with the [[Gswiki:Style guide|Style guide]], and I have moved the preexisting article to [[Profession service]] to confirm with the standard term for the service type. Additionally, the article is indexed first (and linked in the explanation of) the category, so it is featured prominently as the article for detailed information on the services. The original category does not appear to be linked from anywhere, including Discord (as a cursory check), so I have deleted it to avoid some issues with category redirects on the wiki. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:49, 19 November 2024 (CST)

Hello, GSKEBECHET, thank you for helping me out with my image on my page. It is very confusing for me for some reason but I'm grateful you showed me the way. (19 DEC 24)````

Hello! I removed my edits to the Player profile page that violated policy. I apologize as I had forgotten that part of policy. Apologies were issued to the offended character as well - Jumbodog [[User:JUMBODOG|JUMBODOG]] ([[User talk:JUMBODOG|talk]]) 00:27, 4 February 2025 (CST)

=== Timeline - Imperial Northern Aggression ===

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Burghalgnome:Sorry was copying the format used by [[Modern Imperial History:5103 - Present]] and [[Protectorate]] both of which are player=written and have manually added categories. Perhaps you can explain.
:Hi there, BURGHALGNOME. In response to your question about the categories I adjusted on your article, [[Timeline - Imperial Northern Aggression]], this was done because the article is presented as a character-written essay and was labeled by you as player-written creative content. Typically, larger over-encompassing categories such as those for an entire nation or race are not appropriate for player-written creative content. However, smaller and more specialized categories, such as [[:Category:Wehnimer's Landing Independence]] are still very appropriate; those smaller categories are in turn lumped in with the larger categories to help facilitate users finding related articles. The examples you shared are standalone articles and not player-written creative content. There are tens of thousands of articles on the Gswiki, and if some are improperly categorized, other moderators or I adjust them as we run across them. This is usually, but not exclusively, based on which articles have had recent edits, which is why you likely have seen that many older articles are not necessarily in compliance with current Gswiki Style Guide standards.
:Hopefully this explanation helps you better understand why I adjusted the categories on your article. As an aside, if you ever need to add a "signature" to a something communicated via talk pages, you can do so by inserting <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> following your message; while not required, it is an easy way to do so that is built into the Media Wiki software. Thank you again for all of your contributions to the Gswiki. Please let me know if you have any other questions. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:02, 23 May 2024 (CDT)

Thank you for the signature tip, if I understand what you are saying the reason this article was changed but the other timeline is not in need of a change is because I marked it as player written and it has a forward that implies it is in character, if I remove that the tags can be reapplied? [[User:BURGHALGNOME|BURGHALGNOME]] ([[User talk:BURGHALGNOME|talk]]) 09:54, 23 May 2024 (CDT)
:You're welcome. To answer your question, because you flagged the article as being a creative work, it is held to those specific standards ([[Gswiki:Style guide/Creative works]]) and is also not necessarily subject to other standards that apply to different types of articles. If the timeline is instead a general article, then it is held to those other standards outlined in the [[Gswiki:Style guide]]. This means that it may be heavily edited by many other users and is subject to presenting information in a neutral/in-universe point of view. If the creative-works template was added by mistake, then it is possible that some categories may be appropriate for adding back in if the template is removed. It would also mean that I review the content for any additional style guide requirements and make those adjustments as needed. For example, some of the character quotes may be removed entirely and some of the text changed to adhere to the style guide standards. If you have further questions, you are welcome to reach out to me however you may not get a timely response, in which case I suggest asking the Wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926 Discord forum's wiki thread]. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:11, 23 May 2024 (CDT)

Thank you, I believe all the character quotes in the actual timeline are NPCs for the sake of context. I will discuss this with some other parties and decide on a direction. It may just make more sense to edit the other timeline with this information or to remove the template and leave it as is but that will depend on overall expectations. [[User:BURGHALGNOME|BURGHALGNOME]] ([[User talk:BURGHALGNOME|talk]]) 10:54, 23 May 2024 (CDT)

== Elanthian Journals ==

By chance are you able to see the old Elanthian Journal pages that were deleted? I just realized.. one thing I never did is check each one to see what linked to them. I just found a page that linked to a Journal :| [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 16:52, 12 August 2022 (CDT)
:Unfortunately, no. Once a page is deleted, it is gone-gone. However, I was able to pull up a list of broken links and adjusted seven pages that appeared to reference the old Elanthian Journal pages. That should hopefully have caught any others that were overlooked! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:45, 16 August 2022 (CDT)
::Thank you for this! Sorry for the extra work. [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 15:44, 16 August 2022 (CDT)
:::Very welcome! Thank you for bringing up the potential of broken links. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:14, 17 August 2022 (CDT)

== Merchants template ==

I cobbled that template together in 2019, as a pet project, when things were a little more relaxed. So many people were "remember that one merchant? Where were they?? What did they look like??", that it felt like a good addition. Anyway, it was a build based on a template someone else had done, as you've likely read. I had planned on continuing work on it, then COVID hit and I turned into a homeschool teacher for two young teenagers.

Venues: the primary reason I changed those venues was because it was putting so many merchants into categories that didn't exist, and may not have been the best one for them to go into ''at the time''. By restricting category to "wandering" and others that already had a category made, it cut down on "red links"; '''wandering''' moved them into a common category and could be changed later. '''Generally speaking''', if they had a mention in their blurb as to what venue they attended, I removed the category that was causing a red link, although any that did not were likely an oversight (the notable exception being Elsia - I forgot to research her item, '''Fancy Coats''', so I could add the venue).

Towns: it was my intention to adapt the template to allow them to be placed into the category '''for that town'''. An example would be citizen-only merchants such as Duvernith or Davro. I admittedly got wrapped up in EG item-adding and had not gotten back to fixing the "town" venue to populate into town pages instead of '''Town''' NPCs, a category that doesn't exist, so I just left town uncategorized for the time being.

Many of those merchants I added myself with no real idea of what venues they had visited, in that hopes of at least having an appearance and a basic blurb to be expanded upon later. I had intended to continue with the work after EG and add category pages where appropriate. That section of the template might get pretty long for particularly industrious merchants! '''Wandering''' seemed like a good fit if they didn't have what might be considered a "primary festival" (for example, I wouldn't be surprised to see Elusionari in a lot of places!).

That said, I get that once you add a template, you basically lose any claim to it being "yours". However, no one else really took an interest in it, and I was told it would need work anyway, so I figured I was all right to try to adapt it to '''not''' use non-existent categories for the time being, since many (most?) of them had venue linked in the blurb or the body of the article. (TL:DR yet? LOL)[[User:ECHEAUX|ECHEAUX]] ([[User talk:ECHEAUX|talk]]) 12:09, 26 October 2022 (CDT)

== Table updates ==

Hello! As I'm sure you've noticed, I've been going through and updating older items to the newer templates. A lot of them are simple, but some of them require more time; much more time in some cases. For those, fortunately, a lot them are more or less copy and paste for the verb lists with a few minor tweaks. I noticed that on a couple of them you've gone back and added in formatting for data tables for accessibility purposes. I read up on that today and I'll be sure to add that going forward, but I was wondering: Is there a way you are finding those that need it or are you just kind of seeing them as I'm doing them? I'd be more than happy to go back correct the formatting on those, but if there's a way I can find them more "wholesale" than "piecemeal", that would make the job easier. [[User:ECHEAUX|ECHEAUX]] ([[User talk:ECHEAUX|talk]]) 17:40, 9 November 2022 (CST)
:Hi there! Part of my duties as one of our wiki mods are to review recent page changes to ensure that they are appropriate to the wiki, are accurate, are appropriately named as a page or subpage, and that they generally comply with the wiki style guide. So you'll see me doing things like updating pages to use new template standards, moving pages that aren't named properly, fixing redirects or broken links, updating categories, reviewing pages listed in [[:Category:Marked for Deletion]], and similar "moderator" type duties focused on overall wiki consistency that are not expected of general users who instead are adding new content to the wiki. One of the standards set out by the style guide and the wiki team is to ensure that the wiki is as accessible as possible to everyone, including our users who rely on a screen reader. If I run across any pages during my patrols that don't meet current standards, including tables that are not set up in a way for screen readers to properly capture, part of my job as a moderator is to update them accordingly. Since you have been incredibly active on the wiki over the past couple of months, I am much more likely to review your edits than other users due to sheer volume; that's why it might look like I'm going back to change pages you've touched more so than other users. Thanks for inquiring! If you'd like to know more about our moderator team or what our role is, I encourage you to ask on the Gemstone Discord's #wiki-talk channel where one of the GMs overseeing the wiki can chime in. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:11, 10 November 2022 (CST)
::Oh, I understand that. I just wasn't sure if there was an easy way to see pages with certain errors so I could fix those that I missed them on. I can go through my contribution list and do it, though. Thanks for getting back to me![[User:ECHEAUX|ECHEAUX]] ([[User talk:ECHEAUX|talk]]) 10:34, 10 November 2022 (CST)

== Northern Sentinel's Decree==

Hello! My intention with this page was to list only the legal characteristics of the Landing's protectorate status. I deliberately did not want to include the preamble and ending of the letter, as they did not carry legal weight. As such, I would like to revert it to a version which contains only those legal characteristics. In my view, a log page or official document page would be more appropriate for recording the entire letter. [[User:WBURKE1|WBURKE1]] ([[User talk:WBURKE1|talk]])
:Hi, WBURKE1. Thanks for reaching out to me! I am not ignoring your query; I am waiting on a response from the larger wiki team about how to approach this specific scenario with the article [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]]. As I explained to WINTERDAWN, generally speaking an article's Talk page is not an appropriate venue for archiving important information. Given the nature of this specific article as well as the duplicate information between it and the article [[Protectorate]], I am waiting on confirmation on how best to handle it before taking any further action. Unless another mod or GM weighs in before me, it will likely not be until next week that I can relay the final determination. I appreciate your patience and understanding with this. Thank you again for all of your contributions to the wiki. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:40, 9 February 2023 (CST)
::Hello again, WBURKE1. After consulting with the wiki team, I have adjusted [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]] to show the previous version of the text instead of the log. I have transcluded the identically presented information from [[Protectorate]] onto [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]]. I have updated text on the page to link to the log excerpt on [[Protectorate]] instead of referencing the article's talk page. I have also updated the article's Talk page to remove the previously saved log excerpt, to clarify what its purpose is, and to direct anyone viewing it to [[Protectorate#5123]], which is where the complete log excerpt is located. This should help ensure that the intent behind the original page, which is to succinctly state the terms of the Landing's Protectorate status, is maintained while still preserving information. Thank you again for your patience as I worked to resolve this. Please let me know if you have any further questions or concerns. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:13, 14 February 2023 (CST)
:::Thanks for this resolution and for all your hard work! [[User:WBURKE1|WBURKE1]] ([[User talk:WBURKE1|talk]]) 12:39, 14 February 2023 (CST)

== Images ==

They're different images, please look more closely.

== I don't know what I'm doing! ==

Hi, I tried to DM, failed! But found.. this space. And I have no idea if I'm doing it correctly. I READ WHAT YOU WROTE and thank you for what was pointed out I will work on figuring out how to fix it, it just might not be instantly remedied (not too long, just not a finger-snap of time, I'm still figuring stuff out!) -DASLOONIX

== 5mb File Size Down to 2mb ==

I'm noticing that the wiki now has a 2mb file size limit when it used to be 5mb. Is this an unintended result of the recent update or is it intentional? I'm trying to update my OSA maps but the 2mb limit is going to cause a huge loss in quality on them. Thoughts? If it's intentional, perhaps you or an admin could override the setting and post the two maps for me? [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 19:56, 7 January 2024 (CST)
:I do not know about any details related to maximum file size changes. I have relayed your question to the wiki team and will respond on your user talk page when I have more information. While you are welcome to reach out to me (or other mods) with questions like this, you can also ask them on the [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926 Discord forum's wiki thread], where you may receive a faster response. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:08, 9 January 2024 (CST)
::Just checking in :) [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 23:41, 15 January 2024 (CST)
:::Hi, again! I did inquire but still have no update. The wiki team is relaying your question to onside/IT alongside several other extensions and related requests. As a result, this will take much more time to answer than most questions due to it being outside the scope of what the wiki team can address. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:01, 16 January 2024 (CST)
::::Okay, thank you! In the meantime, is this something you or an admin have the power to override for the 2 map files? [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 18:28, 16 January 2024 (CST)
:::::No, this is outside the purview of what the wiki team is able to do. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:27, 17 January 2024 (CST)
::::::Okay, thank you! [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 21:24, 18 January 2024 (CST)

Tossing this here since it's the primary reason for my design choice. Regarding my 3 OSA maps... I'm worried that having thumbnails of the moderate/basic versions will "drown out" the link to the full version and give impression that the moderate version is the best quality version. Thoughts? At the end of the day I'm fine with your final decision. [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 12:14, 25 May 2025 (CDT)
:Hi there! I completely understand. I had updated all the wiki-hosted maps to thumbnails to be consistent across the board, which largely impacted your two maps. It would be better to maintain consistency wherever possible. I have added a bolded statement next to your external link to emphasize it is a much higher resolution version of the first (parchment-backed) map. Hopefully that will alleviate your concerns. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:26, 27 May 2025 (CDT)
::I agree about consistency! Your finding an alternate way to emphasize the full map gave me inspiration to play around with it more. Please let me know what you think about my changes. I basically uploaded a thumbnail image which is linking to the Google Drive image. I also re-wrote the alt text a bit to expand upon it. Lastly, if you feel it's worth it, can you delete this file? [[:File:Open Sea Adventures.jpg]] Unless the file size limitation changes, this file is unlikely to be used again. Thank you for all that you do! [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 15:24, 28 May 2025 (CDT)

== Tatterclaws' Guides ==

Hello, I received your message, went through all four articles, and I believe fixed everything. The only thing I haven't fixed is moving the articles to Lich:. Can you please assist with that? Outside of that, everything should be updated. Thanks for your help.

== Mana-Infused Armor ==

Template:Itemtier - Optional template for single item pages with spots for Tier (or tree).

I removed the OPTIONAL templates per the Gswiki:Style_guide/Item_scripts page.

Please leave the detailed table, with concise information that doesn't require scrolling down forever to see the important information.
:I have responded on your user talk page. In the future, if you need to add a "signature" to a comment made to another user, you can do so with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>, which will automatically replace the four characters with your username and a date/timestamp. You can see what this looks like at the end of my comment here. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:20, 8 October 2024 (CDT)

==Voln for Dummies==
Hello! I have added a copyright blurb to the top of the page under the spoiler banner (lmk if it should go above it). I reached out to the content creator before publishing the page and I still have the email where they asked to please use any of their material. If you would like me to forward that email to you, please let me know! [[User:KVOTHETBL|KVOTHETBL]] ([[User talk:KVOTHETBL|talk]])
:Hi again, KVOTHETBL. Thank you for clarifying with your comment and a header that the [[Voln For Dummies]] guide article received permission from its authors to include it on the Gswiki. Unfortunately, you did not place the statement that permission was given from the authors in the correct place. As I said in my original communication, you need to clearly state that permission was given by the authors to include the guide on Gswiki on the Voln for Dummie's [[Talk:Voln For Dummies|talk page]]. This statement can be as simple as, "I have permission from the author to post this guide on the Gswiki. <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>" (with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> serving as your "signature" for the comment). Any additional remarks about permissions on the article itself are optional. I am updating the <nowiki>{{moddelete}}</nowiki> template with today's date, resetting the 7 day window. Please let me know if you need further clarification on how to do this. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:19, 10 December 2024 (CST)
::As a follow up, I noticed that you used the code from an older template on the top of your article for the optional statement. After consulting with the Wiki Team, I have updated that template to now be [[Template:Copyright-statement]], along with instructions on how to use it. If you would like to use it in addition to the needed statement on the Voln For Dummies talk page, you are welcome to do so. Thank you for bringing this older template to my attention so that it can be repurposed for future use. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:46, 10 December 2024 (CST)
:::Apologies! I misread your first communication and thought the notice could go in either place - I have updated the talk page. Please let me know if there are any further issues and thanks for your patience!
::::Thank you very much for taking those steps! Everything looks great on my end now. I have removed the mod-delete template and also updated the copyright-statement and player-guide templates for you. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:23, 11 December 2024 (CST)

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== Have a question or comment? ==
'''Feel free to drop it here! Please add <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> following your message so I can easily identify who left it and when. Thank you!''' [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:56, 3 July 2024 (CDT)

HOST-GSKEBECHET (talk | contribs) (Added back in the OTS analyze and rearranged a couple things to conform with item script style guide.)

You added back in the Tier 1 analyze in the OTS section. [[User:GS4ALASTIR|GS4ALASTIR]] ([[User talk:GS4ALASTIR|talk]]) 10:46, 25 April 2023 (CDT)

Hello, I added a line that Stormyrain gave permission to use the image of the Sisters on the wiki [[User:STACYWALTER|STACYWALTER]] ([[User talk:STACYWALTER|talk]]) 06:16, 12 October 2023 (CDT)

You're doing great work. Thank you, I appreciate it. [[User:VANKRASN39|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39|talk]]) 11:42, 7 November 2023 (CST)
:Thank you! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]])

Hi, I got your message about the copywrite problems with my image. I created the image myself using Artflow.ai but I have literally no idea how to comply with your request and I can barely even understand it. I cant find the Discord page you linked to either. Could you please walk me through this step by step? I have almost no skill at coding or using the wiki...I created my page by simple cut and paste and rewriting.

Thank you,
Toxyrox

PS if it would be easier on Discord, my username there is Avondell.
:Thank you very much! I have responded on your talk page.[[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:37, 15 November 2023 (CST)

Go ahead and delete the image 'Bochser 1.jpg' I just uploaded it to test my script that would allow people to view character portraits in game by directing them to their Wiki character profile and I had no idea it would be such a hassle to just upload an image. - Tgo01

Hello Kebechet! I did an oopsie last night and created a [[:Category:Profession Services|Profession Services]] category... and this morning, I realized there is a [[Player service]] page that should probably actually be the page used for the Profession Services category. Is there anyway that you know of to combine the two, under the 'Player Service' name/page? Thanks, and apologies for any hassles this has created! [[User:GS4-OPTHERIA|GS4-OPTHERIA]] ([[User talk:GS4-OPTHERIA|talk]]) 12:22, 18 November 2024 (CST)
:Hello! I ran the topic by the Wiki team, and after confirming have consolidated the information. The category has been updated to be [[:Category:Profession services|Profession services]] to conform with the [[Gswiki:Style guide|Style guide]], and I have moved the preexisting article to [[Profession service]] to confirm with the standard term for the service type. Additionally, the article is indexed first (and linked in the explanation of) the category, so it is featured prominently as the article for detailed information on the services. The original category does not appear to be linked from anywhere, including Discord (as a cursory check), so I have deleted it to avoid some issues with category redirects on the wiki. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:49, 19 November 2024 (CST)

Hello, GSKEBECHET, thank you for helping me out with my image on my page. It is very confusing for me for some reason but I'm grateful you showed me the way. (19 DEC 24)````

Hello! I removed my edits to the Player profile page that violated policy. I apologize as I had forgotten that part of policy. Apologies were issued to the offended character as well - Jumbodog [[User:JUMBODOG|JUMBODOG]] ([[User talk:JUMBODOG|talk]]) 00:27, 4 February 2025 (CST)

=== Timeline - Imperial Northern Aggression ===

HOST-GSKEBECHET talk contribs‎ m 21,289 bytes −54‎ Updating categories; unofficial content such as player-written should avoid manually using the wiki's over-encompassing categories

Burghalgnome:Sorry was copying the format used by [[Modern Imperial History:5103 - Present]] and [[Protectorate]] both of which are player=written and have manually added categories. Perhaps you can explain.
:Hi there, BURGHALGNOME. In response to your question about the categories I adjusted on your article, [[Timeline - Imperial Northern Aggression]], this was done because the article is presented as a character-written essay and was labeled by you as player-written creative content. Typically, larger over-encompassing categories such as those for an entire nation or race are not appropriate for player-written creative content. However, smaller and more specialized categories, such as [[:Category:Wehnimer's Landing Independence]] are still very appropriate; those smaller categories are in turn lumped in with the larger categories to help facilitate users finding related articles. The examples you shared are standalone articles and not player-written creative content. There are tens of thousands of articles on the Gswiki, and if some are improperly categorized, other moderators or I adjust them as we run across them. This is usually, but not exclusively, based on which articles have had recent edits, which is why you likely have seen that many older articles are not necessarily in compliance with current Gswiki Style Guide standards.
:Hopefully this explanation helps you better understand why I adjusted the categories on your article. As an aside, if you ever need to add a "signature" to a something communicated via talk pages, you can do so by inserting <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> following your message; while not required, it is an easy way to do so that is built into the Media Wiki software. Thank you again for all of your contributions to the Gswiki. Please let me know if you have any other questions. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:02, 23 May 2024 (CDT)

Thank you for the signature tip, if I understand what you are saying the reason this article was changed but the other timeline is not in need of a change is because I marked it as player written and it has a forward that implies it is in character, if I remove that the tags can be reapplied? [[User:BURGHALGNOME|BURGHALGNOME]] ([[User talk:BURGHALGNOME|talk]]) 09:54, 23 May 2024 (CDT)
:You're welcome. To answer your question, because you flagged the article as being a creative work, it is held to those specific standards ([[Gswiki:Style guide/Creative works]]) and is also not necessarily subject to other standards that apply to different types of articles. If the timeline is instead a general article, then it is held to those other standards outlined in the [[Gswiki:Style guide]]. This means that it may be heavily edited by many other users and is subject to presenting information in a neutral/in-universe point of view. If the creative-works template was added by mistake, then it is possible that some categories may be appropriate for adding back in if the template is removed. It would also mean that I review the content for any additional style guide requirements and make those adjustments as needed. For example, some of the character quotes may be removed entirely and some of the text changed to adhere to the style guide standards. If you have further questions, you are welcome to reach out to me however you may not get a timely response, in which case I suggest asking the Wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926 Discord forum's wiki thread]. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:11, 23 May 2024 (CDT)

Thank you, I believe all the character quotes in the actual timeline are NPCs for the sake of context. I will discuss this with some other parties and decide on a direction. It may just make more sense to edit the other timeline with this information or to remove the template and leave it as is but that will depend on overall expectations. [[User:BURGHALGNOME|BURGHALGNOME]] ([[User talk:BURGHALGNOME|talk]]) 10:54, 23 May 2024 (CDT)

== Elanthian Journals ==

By chance are you able to see the old Elanthian Journal pages that were deleted? I just realized.. one thing I never did is check each one to see what linked to them. I just found a page that linked to a Journal :| [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 16:52, 12 August 2022 (CDT)
:Unfortunately, no. Once a page is deleted, it is gone-gone. However, I was able to pull up a list of broken links and adjusted seven pages that appeared to reference the old Elanthian Journal pages. That should hopefully have caught any others that were overlooked! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:45, 16 August 2022 (CDT)
::Thank you for this! Sorry for the extra work. [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 15:44, 16 August 2022 (CDT)
:::Very welcome! Thank you for bringing up the potential of broken links. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:14, 17 August 2022 (CDT)

== Merchants template ==

I cobbled that template together in 2019, as a pet project, when things were a little more relaxed. So many people were "remember that one merchant? Where were they?? What did they look like??", that it felt like a good addition. Anyway, it was a build based on a template someone else had done, as you've likely read. I had planned on continuing work on it, then COVID hit and I turned into a homeschool teacher for two young teenagers.

Venues: the primary reason I changed those venues was because it was putting so many merchants into categories that didn't exist, and may not have been the best one for them to go into ''at the time''. By restricting category to "wandering" and others that already had a category made, it cut down on "red links"; '''wandering''' moved them into a common category and could be changed later. '''Generally speaking''', if they had a mention in their blurb as to what venue they attended, I removed the category that was causing a red link, although any that did not were likely an oversight (the notable exception being Elsia - I forgot to research her item, '''Fancy Coats''', so I could add the venue).

Towns: it was my intention to adapt the template to allow them to be placed into the category '''for that town'''. An example would be citizen-only merchants such as Duvernith or Davro. I admittedly got wrapped up in EG item-adding and had not gotten back to fixing the "town" venue to populate into town pages instead of '''Town''' NPCs, a category that doesn't exist, so I just left town uncategorized for the time being.

Many of those merchants I added myself with no real idea of what venues they had visited, in that hopes of at least having an appearance and a basic blurb to be expanded upon later. I had intended to continue with the work after EG and add category pages where appropriate. That section of the template might get pretty long for particularly industrious merchants! '''Wandering''' seemed like a good fit if they didn't have what might be considered a "primary festival" (for example, I wouldn't be surprised to see Elusionari in a lot of places!).

That said, I get that once you add a template, you basically lose any claim to it being "yours". However, no one else really took an interest in it, and I was told it would need work anyway, so I figured I was all right to try to adapt it to '''not''' use non-existent categories for the time being, since many (most?) of them had venue linked in the blurb or the body of the article. (TL:DR yet? LOL)[[User:ECHEAUX|ECHEAUX]] ([[User talk:ECHEAUX|talk]]) 12:09, 26 October 2022 (CDT)

== Table updates ==

Hello! As I'm sure you've noticed, I've been going through and updating older items to the newer templates. A lot of them are simple, but some of them require more time; much more time in some cases. For those, fortunately, a lot them are more or less copy and paste for the verb lists with a few minor tweaks. I noticed that on a couple of them you've gone back and added in formatting for data tables for accessibility purposes. I read up on that today and I'll be sure to add that going forward, but I was wondering: Is there a way you are finding those that need it or are you just kind of seeing them as I'm doing them? I'd be more than happy to go back correct the formatting on those, but if there's a way I can find them more "wholesale" than "piecemeal", that would make the job easier. [[User:ECHEAUX|ECHEAUX]] ([[User talk:ECHEAUX|talk]]) 17:40, 9 November 2022 (CST)
:Hi there! Part of my duties as one of our wiki mods are to review recent page changes to ensure that they are appropriate to the wiki, are accurate, are appropriately named as a page or subpage, and that they generally comply with the wiki style guide. So you'll see me doing things like updating pages to use new template standards, moving pages that aren't named properly, fixing redirects or broken links, updating categories, reviewing pages listed in [[:Category:Marked for Deletion]], and similar "moderator" type duties focused on overall wiki consistency that are not expected of general users who instead are adding new content to the wiki. One of the standards set out by the style guide and the wiki team is to ensure that the wiki is as accessible as possible to everyone, including our users who rely on a screen reader. If I run across any pages during my patrols that don't meet current standards, including tables that are not set up in a way for screen readers to properly capture, part of my job as a moderator is to update them accordingly. Since you have been incredibly active on the wiki over the past couple of months, I am much more likely to review your edits than other users due to sheer volume; that's why it might look like I'm going back to change pages you've touched more so than other users. Thanks for inquiring! If you'd like to know more about our moderator team or what our role is, I encourage you to ask on the Gemstone Discord's #wiki-talk channel where one of the GMs overseeing the wiki can chime in. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:11, 10 November 2022 (CST)
::Oh, I understand that. I just wasn't sure if there was an easy way to see pages with certain errors so I could fix those that I missed them on. I can go through my contribution list and do it, though. Thanks for getting back to me![[User:ECHEAUX|ECHEAUX]] ([[User talk:ECHEAUX|talk]]) 10:34, 10 November 2022 (CST)

== Northern Sentinel's Decree==

Hello! My intention with this page was to list only the legal characteristics of the Landing's protectorate status. I deliberately did not want to include the preamble and ending of the letter, as they did not carry legal weight. As such, I would like to revert it to a version which contains only those legal characteristics. In my view, a log page or official document page would be more appropriate for recording the entire letter. [[User:WBURKE1|WBURKE1]] ([[User talk:WBURKE1|talk]])
:Hi, WBURKE1. Thanks for reaching out to me! I am not ignoring your query; I am waiting on a response from the larger wiki team about how to approach this specific scenario with the article [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]]. As I explained to WINTERDAWN, generally speaking an article's Talk page is not an appropriate venue for archiving important information. Given the nature of this specific article as well as the duplicate information between it and the article [[Protectorate]], I am waiting on confirmation on how best to handle it before taking any further action. Unless another mod or GM weighs in before me, it will likely not be until next week that I can relay the final determination. I appreciate your patience and understanding with this. Thank you again for all of your contributions to the wiki. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:40, 9 February 2023 (CST)
::Hello again, WBURKE1. After consulting with the wiki team, I have adjusted [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]] to show the previous version of the text instead of the log. I have transcluded the identically presented information from [[Protectorate]] onto [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]]. I have updated text on the page to link to the log excerpt on [[Protectorate]] instead of referencing the article's talk page. I have also updated the article's Talk page to remove the previously saved log excerpt, to clarify what its purpose is, and to direct anyone viewing it to [[Protectorate#5123]], which is where the complete log excerpt is located. This should help ensure that the intent behind the original page, which is to succinctly state the terms of the Landing's Protectorate status, is maintained while still preserving information. Thank you again for your patience as I worked to resolve this. Please let me know if you have any further questions or concerns. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:13, 14 February 2023 (CST)
:::Thanks for this resolution and for all your hard work! [[User:WBURKE1|WBURKE1]] ([[User talk:WBURKE1|talk]]) 12:39, 14 February 2023 (CST)

== Images ==

They're different images, please look more closely.

== I don't know what I'm doing! ==

Hi, I tried to DM, failed! But found.. this space. And I have no idea if I'm doing it correctly. I READ WHAT YOU WROTE and thank you for what was pointed out I will work on figuring out how to fix it, it just might not be instantly remedied (not too long, just not a finger-snap of time, I'm still figuring stuff out!) -DASLOONIX

== 5mb File Size Down to 2mb ==

I'm noticing that the wiki now has a 2mb file size limit when it used to be 5mb. Is this an unintended result of the recent update or is it intentional? I'm trying to update my OSA maps but the 2mb limit is going to cause a huge loss in quality on them. Thoughts? If it's intentional, perhaps you or an admin could override the setting and post the two maps for me? [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 19:56, 7 January 2024 (CST)
:I do not know about any details related to maximum file size changes. I have relayed your question to the wiki team and will respond on your user talk page when I have more information. While you are welcome to reach out to me (or other mods) with questions like this, you can also ask them on the [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926 Discord forum's wiki thread], where you may receive a faster response. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:08, 9 January 2024 (CST)
::Just checking in :) [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 23:41, 15 January 2024 (CST)
:::Hi, again! I did inquire but still have no update. The wiki team is relaying your question to onside/IT alongside several other extensions and related requests. As a result, this will take much more time to answer than most questions due to it being outside the scope of what the wiki team can address. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:01, 16 January 2024 (CST)
::::Okay, thank you! In the meantime, is this something you or an admin have the power to override for the 2 map files? [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 18:28, 16 January 2024 (CST)
:::::No, this is outside the purview of what the wiki team is able to do. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:27, 17 January 2024 (CST)
::::::Okay, thank you! [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 21:24, 18 January 2024 (CST)

Tossing this here since it's the primary reason for my design choice. Regarding my 3 OSA maps... I'm worried that having thumbnails of the moderate/basic versions will "drown out" the link to the full version and give impression that the moderate version is the best quality version. Thoughts? At the end of the day I'm fine with your final decision. [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 12:14, 25 May 2025 (CDT)
:Hi there! I completely understand. I had updated all the wiki-hosted maps to thumbnails to be consistent across the board, which largely impacted your two maps. It would be better to maintain consistency wherever possible. I have added a bolded statement next to your external link to emphasize it is a much higher resolution version of the first (parchment-backed) map. Hopefully that will alleviate your concerns. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:26, 27 May 2025 (CDT)
::I agree about consistency! Your finding an alternate way to emphasize the full map gave me inspiration to play around with it more. Please let me know what you think about my changes. I basically uploaded a thumbnail image which is linking to the Google Drive image. I also re-wrote the alt text a bit to expand upon it. Lastly, if you feel it's worth it, can you delete this file? [[Open Sea Adventures.jpg]] Unless the file size limitation changes, this file is unlikely to be used again. Thank you for all that you do! [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 15:24, 28 May 2025 (CDT)

== Tatterclaws' Guides ==

Hello, I received your message, went through all four articles, and I believe fixed everything. The only thing I haven't fixed is moving the articles to Lich:. Can you please assist with that? Outside of that, everything should be updated. Thanks for your help.

== Mana-Infused Armor ==

Template:Itemtier - Optional template for single item pages with spots for Tier (or tree).

I removed the OPTIONAL templates per the Gswiki:Style_guide/Item_scripts page.

Please leave the detailed table, with concise information that doesn't require scrolling down forever to see the important information.
:I have responded on your user talk page. In the future, if you need to add a "signature" to a comment made to another user, you can do so with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>, which will automatically replace the four characters with your username and a date/timestamp. You can see what this looks like at the end of my comment here. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:20, 8 October 2024 (CDT)

==Voln for Dummies==
Hello! I have added a copyright blurb to the top of the page under the spoiler banner (lmk if it should go above it). I reached out to the content creator before publishing the page and I still have the email where they asked to please use any of their material. If you would like me to forward that email to you, please let me know! [[User:KVOTHETBL|KVOTHETBL]] ([[User talk:KVOTHETBL|talk]])
:Hi again, KVOTHETBL. Thank you for clarifying with your comment and a header that the [[Voln For Dummies]] guide article received permission from its authors to include it on the Gswiki. Unfortunately, you did not place the statement that permission was given from the authors in the correct place. As I said in my original communication, you need to clearly state that permission was given by the authors to include the guide on Gswiki on the Voln for Dummie's [[Talk:Voln For Dummies|talk page]]. This statement can be as simple as, "I have permission from the author to post this guide on the Gswiki. <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>" (with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> serving as your "signature" for the comment). Any additional remarks about permissions on the article itself are optional. I am updating the <nowiki>{{moddelete}}</nowiki> template with today's date, resetting the 7 day window. Please let me know if you need further clarification on how to do this. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:19, 10 December 2024 (CST)
::As a follow up, I noticed that you used the code from an older template on the top of your article for the optional statement. After consulting with the Wiki Team, I have updated that template to now be [[Template:Copyright-statement]], along with instructions on how to use it. If you would like to use it in addition to the needed statement on the Voln For Dummies talk page, you are welcome to do so. Thank you for bringing this older template to my attention so that it can be repurposed for future use. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:46, 10 December 2024 (CST)
:::Apologies! I misread your first communication and thought the notice could go in either place - I have updated the talk page. Please let me know if there are any further issues and thanks for your patience!
::::Thank you very much for taking those steps! Everything looks great on my end now. I have removed the mod-delete template and also updated the copyright-statement and player-guide templates for you. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:23, 11 December 2024 (CST)

Open Sea Adventures/maps

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WINTERDAWN:

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{{work-in-progress}}

This is a collection of Open Sea Adventures maps that have been used on this wiki. This listing is to give map users options as well as show older maps for timeline posterity.

== GM Thandiwe's Master Expansion Map ==

[[Image:Southern Ocean.jpg | thumb | none | alt=Excel Map of OSA Expansion | Thandiwe's Expansion Map (March 2025).]]

[[Image:Southern Ocean - Higher Res.png|thumb|none|alt=Higher resolution map of OSA Expansion for Southern Ocean|Higher Resolution OSA Expansion for Southern Ocean<br>Map image created by uploader]]

[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15kT_GejRcSG_1K8FOMato1WtI-pLoAczKJXnCGSv0lo/edit?usp=sharing Spreadsheet Version of Map]

== GM Retser's Master Version ==

[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ia_IDE0MAaf_uqgO7FRKJslaUZ4PIGJI7_KQfu-qF2Q Click Here to Open the Google Sheet]

== Arianiss's Version (May 2025) ==

Prior versions of the full map were created with a wiki file size limit of 5mb. A wiki update caused this to downgrade to 2mb. Achieving this file size would severely compromise the quality of the map and so I'm going to use Google Drive to release the high quality version.

[[Image:Open Sea Adventures (thumbnail).jpg | thumb | none | link=https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fAbK6zhFvGJv2uS0pvbfaZqaJD5mDmB5 | alt=A full version map of the accessible ocean by Arianiss. It has a parchment texture background, text labels for points of interest, and various graphics to give visual flair. It is accurate and complete as of May 2025. This is a thumbnail image that links to a Google Drive image due to the wiki upload file size limit. | Arianiss's version (May 2025). This map is accurate and complete as of May 2025. This is a thumbnail that links to Google Drive.]]

[[Image:Open Sea Adventures (moderate).jpg | thumb | none | alt=A moderate version map of the accessible ocean by Arianiss. It has a parchment texture background and text labels for points of interest. It removes the graphics that are in the full version. It is accurate and complete as of May 2025. | Arianiss's version (May 2025). This map is accurate and complete as of May 2025.]]

[[Image:Open Sea Adventures (basic).png | thumb | none | alt=A basic version map of the accessible ocean by Arianiss. It has a white background. It removes the parchment texture background, text labels, and graphics that are in the full version. It is accurate and complete as of May 2025. | Arianiss's version (May 2025). This map is accurate and complete as of May 2025.]]

== Avery Trent's Map of the Flotilla (June 2023) ==

[[Image:Flotilla.png | thumb | none | alt=A map of the Flotilla by Avery Trent | This map is accurate and complete as of June 2023.]]

== Naamit's Version (July 2021) ==

[[Image:ElanthiaOcean.png | thumb | none | alt=A modified version of the Open Sea Adventures map created by Naamit | Naamit's version (July 2021). This map is accurate but incomplete as of November 2022.]]

== Athias's Version (January 2021) ==

This map is accurate but incomplete as of November 2022.

[https://gswiki.play.net/images/archive/a/ac/20210730191108%21ElanthiaOcean.png Click Here to Open Athias's Version]

== GM Retser's Original Version (November 2020) ==

This map is accurate but incomplete as of November 2022.

[https://gswiki.play.net/images/archive/a/ac/20210122043140%21ElanthiaOcean.png Click Here to Open Retser's Version]

== GM Retser's Original Version (July 2020) ==

This map is inaccurate. Do not use it. Listed for historical posterity.

[https://gswiki.play.net/images/archive/a/ac/20201113191429%21ElanthiaOcean.png Click Here to Open Retser's Version]

[[Category: Maps]]
[[Category: Open Sea Adventures]]

File:Open Sea Adventures (thumbnail).jpg

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WINTERDAWN: A thumbnail version of an image that exceeds the 2mb upload limit.

== Summary ==
A thumbnail version of an image that exceeds the 2mb upload limit.

User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET

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WINTERDAWN: /* 5mb File Size Down to 2mb */

== Crossposted Items ==
*Uploaded Image Patrol: [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET/Image patrols]]
*User:talk Crossposts: [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET/User talk crossposts]]

== Have a question or comment? ==
'''Feel free to drop it here! Please add <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> following your message so I can easily identify who left it and when. Thank you!''' [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:56, 3 July 2024 (CDT)

HOST-GSKEBECHET (talk | contribs) (Added back in the OTS analyze and rearranged a couple things to conform with item script style guide.)

You added back in the Tier 1 analyze in the OTS section. [[User:GS4ALASTIR|GS4ALASTIR]] ([[User talk:GS4ALASTIR|talk]]) 10:46, 25 April 2023 (CDT)

Hello, I added a line that Stormyrain gave permission to use the image of the Sisters on the wiki [[User:STACYWALTER|STACYWALTER]] ([[User talk:STACYWALTER|talk]]) 06:16, 12 October 2023 (CDT)

You're doing great work. Thank you, I appreciate it. [[User:VANKRASN39|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39|talk]]) 11:42, 7 November 2023 (CST)
:Thank you! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]])

Hi, I got your message about the copywrite problems with my image. I created the image myself using Artflow.ai but I have literally no idea how to comply with your request and I can barely even understand it. I cant find the Discord page you linked to either. Could you please walk me through this step by step? I have almost no skill at coding or using the wiki...I created my page by simple cut and paste and rewriting.

Thank you,
Toxyrox

PS if it would be easier on Discord, my username there is Avondell.
:Thank you very much! I have responded on your talk page.[[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:37, 15 November 2023 (CST)

Go ahead and delete the image 'Bochser 1.jpg' I just uploaded it to test my script that would allow people to view character portraits in game by directing them to their Wiki character profile and I had no idea it would be such a hassle to just upload an image. - Tgo01

Hello Kebechet! I did an oopsie last night and created a [[:Category:Profession Services|Profession Services]] category... and this morning, I realized there is a [[Player service]] page that should probably actually be the page used for the Profession Services category. Is there anyway that you know of to combine the two, under the 'Player Service' name/page? Thanks, and apologies for any hassles this has created! [[User:GS4-OPTHERIA|GS4-OPTHERIA]] ([[User talk:GS4-OPTHERIA|talk]]) 12:22, 18 November 2024 (CST)
:Hello! I ran the topic by the Wiki team, and after confirming have consolidated the information. The category has been updated to be [[:Category:Profession services|Profession services]] to conform with the [[Gswiki:Style guide|Style guide]], and I have moved the preexisting article to [[Profession service]] to confirm with the standard term for the service type. Additionally, the article is indexed first (and linked in the explanation of) the category, so it is featured prominently as the article for detailed information on the services. The original category does not appear to be linked from anywhere, including Discord (as a cursory check), so I have deleted it to avoid some issues with category redirects on the wiki. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:49, 19 November 2024 (CST)

Hello, GSKEBECHET, thank you for helping me out with my image on my page. It is very confusing for me for some reason but I'm grateful you showed me the way. (19 DEC 24)````

Hello! I removed my edits to the Player profile page that violated policy. I apologize as I had forgotten that part of policy. Apologies were issued to the offended character as well - Jumbodog [[User:JUMBODOG|JUMBODOG]] ([[User talk:JUMBODOG|talk]]) 00:27, 4 February 2025 (CST)

=== Timeline - Imperial Northern Aggression ===

HOST-GSKEBECHET talk contribs‎ m 21,289 bytes −54‎ Updating categories; unofficial content such as player-written should avoid manually using the wiki's over-encompassing categories

Burghalgnome:Sorry was copying the format used by [[Modern Imperial History:5103 - Present]] and [[Protectorate]] both of which are player=written and have manually added categories. Perhaps you can explain.
:Hi there, BURGHALGNOME. In response to your question about the categories I adjusted on your article, [[Timeline - Imperial Northern Aggression]], this was done because the article is presented as a character-written essay and was labeled by you as player-written creative content. Typically, larger over-encompassing categories such as those for an entire nation or race are not appropriate for player-written creative content. However, smaller and more specialized categories, such as [[:Category:Wehnimer's Landing Independence]] are still very appropriate; those smaller categories are in turn lumped in with the larger categories to help facilitate users finding related articles. The examples you shared are standalone articles and not player-written creative content. There are tens of thousands of articles on the Gswiki, and if some are improperly categorized, other moderators or I adjust them as we run across them. This is usually, but not exclusively, based on which articles have had recent edits, which is why you likely have seen that many older articles are not necessarily in compliance with current Gswiki Style Guide standards.
:Hopefully this explanation helps you better understand why I adjusted the categories on your article. As an aside, if you ever need to add a "signature" to a something communicated via talk pages, you can do so by inserting <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> following your message; while not required, it is an easy way to do so that is built into the Media Wiki software. Thank you again for all of your contributions to the Gswiki. Please let me know if you have any other questions. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:02, 23 May 2024 (CDT)

Thank you for the signature tip, if I understand what you are saying the reason this article was changed but the other timeline is not in need of a change is because I marked it as player written and it has a forward that implies it is in character, if I remove that the tags can be reapplied? [[User:BURGHALGNOME|BURGHALGNOME]] ([[User talk:BURGHALGNOME|talk]]) 09:54, 23 May 2024 (CDT)
:You're welcome. To answer your question, because you flagged the article as being a creative work, it is held to those specific standards ([[Gswiki:Style guide/Creative works]]) and is also not necessarily subject to other standards that apply to different types of articles. If the timeline is instead a general article, then it is held to those other standards outlined in the [[Gswiki:Style guide]]. This means that it may be heavily edited by many other users and is subject to presenting information in a neutral/in-universe point of view. If the creative-works template was added by mistake, then it is possible that some categories may be appropriate for adding back in if the template is removed. It would also mean that I review the content for any additional style guide requirements and make those adjustments as needed. For example, some of the character quotes may be removed entirely and some of the text changed to adhere to the style guide standards. If you have further questions, you are welcome to reach out to me however you may not get a timely response, in which case I suggest asking the Wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926 Discord forum's wiki thread]. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:11, 23 May 2024 (CDT)

Thank you, I believe all the character quotes in the actual timeline are NPCs for the sake of context. I will discuss this with some other parties and decide on a direction. It may just make more sense to edit the other timeline with this information or to remove the template and leave it as is but that will depend on overall expectations. [[User:BURGHALGNOME|BURGHALGNOME]] ([[User talk:BURGHALGNOME|talk]]) 10:54, 23 May 2024 (CDT)

== Elanthian Journals ==

By chance are you able to see the old Elanthian Journal pages that were deleted? I just realized.. one thing I never did is check each one to see what linked to them. I just found a page that linked to a Journal :| [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 16:52, 12 August 2022 (CDT)
:Unfortunately, no. Once a page is deleted, it is gone-gone. However, I was able to pull up a list of broken links and adjusted seven pages that appeared to reference the old Elanthian Journal pages. That should hopefully have caught any others that were overlooked! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:45, 16 August 2022 (CDT)
::Thank you for this! Sorry for the extra work. [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 15:44, 16 August 2022 (CDT)
:::Very welcome! Thank you for bringing up the potential of broken links. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:14, 17 August 2022 (CDT)

== Merchants template ==

I cobbled that template together in 2019, as a pet project, when things were a little more relaxed. So many people were "remember that one merchant? Where were they?? What did they look like??", that it felt like a good addition. Anyway, it was a build based on a template someone else had done, as you've likely read. I had planned on continuing work on it, then COVID hit and I turned into a homeschool teacher for two young teenagers.

Venues: the primary reason I changed those venues was because it was putting so many merchants into categories that didn't exist, and may not have been the best one for them to go into ''at the time''. By restricting category to "wandering" and others that already had a category made, it cut down on "red links"; '''wandering''' moved them into a common category and could be changed later. '''Generally speaking''', if they had a mention in their blurb as to what venue they attended, I removed the category that was causing a red link, although any that did not were likely an oversight (the notable exception being Elsia - I forgot to research her item, '''Fancy Coats''', so I could add the venue).

Towns: it was my intention to adapt the template to allow them to be placed into the category '''for that town'''. An example would be citizen-only merchants such as Duvernith or Davro. I admittedly got wrapped up in EG item-adding and had not gotten back to fixing the "town" venue to populate into town pages instead of '''Town''' NPCs, a category that doesn't exist, so I just left town uncategorized for the time being.

Many of those merchants I added myself with no real idea of what venues they had visited, in that hopes of at least having an appearance and a basic blurb to be expanded upon later. I had intended to continue with the work after EG and add category pages where appropriate. That section of the template might get pretty long for particularly industrious merchants! '''Wandering''' seemed like a good fit if they didn't have what might be considered a "primary festival" (for example, I wouldn't be surprised to see Elusionari in a lot of places!).

That said, I get that once you add a template, you basically lose any claim to it being "yours". However, no one else really took an interest in it, and I was told it would need work anyway, so I figured I was all right to try to adapt it to '''not''' use non-existent categories for the time being, since many (most?) of them had venue linked in the blurb or the body of the article. (TL:DR yet? LOL)[[User:ECHEAUX|ECHEAUX]] ([[User talk:ECHEAUX|talk]]) 12:09, 26 October 2022 (CDT)

== Table updates ==

Hello! As I'm sure you've noticed, I've been going through and updating older items to the newer templates. A lot of them are simple, but some of them require more time; much more time in some cases. For those, fortunately, a lot them are more or less copy and paste for the verb lists with a few minor tweaks. I noticed that on a couple of them you've gone back and added in formatting for data tables for accessibility purposes. I read up on that today and I'll be sure to add that going forward, but I was wondering: Is there a way you are finding those that need it or are you just kind of seeing them as I'm doing them? I'd be more than happy to go back correct the formatting on those, but if there's a way I can find them more "wholesale" than "piecemeal", that would make the job easier. [[User:ECHEAUX|ECHEAUX]] ([[User talk:ECHEAUX|talk]]) 17:40, 9 November 2022 (CST)
:Hi there! Part of my duties as one of our wiki mods are to review recent page changes to ensure that they are appropriate to the wiki, are accurate, are appropriately named as a page or subpage, and that they generally comply with the wiki style guide. So you'll see me doing things like updating pages to use new template standards, moving pages that aren't named properly, fixing redirects or broken links, updating categories, reviewing pages listed in [[:Category:Marked for Deletion]], and similar "moderator" type duties focused on overall wiki consistency that are not expected of general users who instead are adding new content to the wiki. One of the standards set out by the style guide and the wiki team is to ensure that the wiki is as accessible as possible to everyone, including our users who rely on a screen reader. If I run across any pages during my patrols that don't meet current standards, including tables that are not set up in a way for screen readers to properly capture, part of my job as a moderator is to update them accordingly. Since you have been incredibly active on the wiki over the past couple of months, I am much more likely to review your edits than other users due to sheer volume; that's why it might look like I'm going back to change pages you've touched more so than other users. Thanks for inquiring! If you'd like to know more about our moderator team or what our role is, I encourage you to ask on the Gemstone Discord's #wiki-talk channel where one of the GMs overseeing the wiki can chime in. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:11, 10 November 2022 (CST)
::Oh, I understand that. I just wasn't sure if there was an easy way to see pages with certain errors so I could fix those that I missed them on. I can go through my contribution list and do it, though. Thanks for getting back to me![[User:ECHEAUX|ECHEAUX]] ([[User talk:ECHEAUX|talk]]) 10:34, 10 November 2022 (CST)

== Northern Sentinel's Decree==

Hello! My intention with this page was to list only the legal characteristics of the Landing's protectorate status. I deliberately did not want to include the preamble and ending of the letter, as they did not carry legal weight. As such, I would like to revert it to a version which contains only those legal characteristics. In my view, a log page or official document page would be more appropriate for recording the entire letter. [[User:WBURKE1|WBURKE1]] ([[User talk:WBURKE1|talk]])
:Hi, WBURKE1. Thanks for reaching out to me! I am not ignoring your query; I am waiting on a response from the larger wiki team about how to approach this specific scenario with the article [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]]. As I explained to WINTERDAWN, generally speaking an article's Talk page is not an appropriate venue for archiving important information. Given the nature of this specific article as well as the duplicate information between it and the article [[Protectorate]], I am waiting on confirmation on how best to handle it before taking any further action. Unless another mod or GM weighs in before me, it will likely not be until next week that I can relay the final determination. I appreciate your patience and understanding with this. Thank you again for all of your contributions to the wiki. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:40, 9 February 2023 (CST)
::Hello again, WBURKE1. After consulting with the wiki team, I have adjusted [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]] to show the previous version of the text instead of the log. I have transcluded the identically presented information from [[Protectorate]] onto [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]]. I have updated text on the page to link to the log excerpt on [[Protectorate]] instead of referencing the article's talk page. I have also updated the article's Talk page to remove the previously saved log excerpt, to clarify what its purpose is, and to direct anyone viewing it to [[Protectorate#5123]], which is where the complete log excerpt is located. This should help ensure that the intent behind the original page, which is to succinctly state the terms of the Landing's Protectorate status, is maintained while still preserving information. Thank you again for your patience as I worked to resolve this. Please let me know if you have any further questions or concerns. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:13, 14 February 2023 (CST)
:::Thanks for this resolution and for all your hard work! [[User:WBURKE1|WBURKE1]] ([[User talk:WBURKE1|talk]]) 12:39, 14 February 2023 (CST)

== Images ==

They're different images, please look more closely.

== I don't know what I'm doing! ==

Hi, I tried to DM, failed! But found.. this space. And I have no idea if I'm doing it correctly. I READ WHAT YOU WROTE and thank you for what was pointed out I will work on figuring out how to fix it, it just might not be instantly remedied (not too long, just not a finger-snap of time, I'm still figuring stuff out!) -DASLOONIX

== 5mb File Size Down to 2mb ==

I'm noticing that the wiki now has a 2mb file size limit when it used to be 5mb. Is this an unintended result of the recent update or is it intentional? I'm trying to update my OSA maps but the 2mb limit is going to cause a huge loss in quality on them. Thoughts? If it's intentional, perhaps you or an admin could override the setting and post the two maps for me? [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 19:56, 7 January 2024 (CST)
:I do not know about any details related to maximum file size changes. I have relayed your question to the wiki team and will respond on your user talk page when I have more information. While you are welcome to reach out to me (or other mods) with questions like this, you can also ask them on the [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926 Discord forum's wiki thread], where you may receive a faster response. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:08, 9 January 2024 (CST)
::Just checking in :) [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 23:41, 15 January 2024 (CST)
:::Hi, again! I did inquire but still have no update. The wiki team is relaying your question to onside/IT alongside several other extensions and related requests. As a result, this will take much more time to answer than most questions due to it being outside the scope of what the wiki team can address. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:01, 16 January 2024 (CST)
::::Okay, thank you! In the meantime, is this something you or an admin have the power to override for the 2 map files? [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 18:28, 16 January 2024 (CST)
:::::No, this is outside the purview of what the wiki team is able to do. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:27, 17 January 2024 (CST)
::::::Okay, thank you! [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 21:24, 18 January 2024 (CST)

Tossing this here since it's the primary reason for my design choice. Regarding my 3 OSA maps... I'm worried that having thumbnails of the moderate/basic versions will "drown out" the link to the full version and give impression that the moderate version is the best quality version. Thoughts? At the end of the day I'm fine with your final decision. [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 12:14, 25 May 2025 (CDT)

== Tatterclaws' Guides ==

Hello, I received your message, went through all four articles, and I believe fixed everything. The only thing I haven't fixed is moving the articles to Lich:. Can you please assist with that? Outside of that, everything should be updated. Thanks for your help.

== Mana-Infused Armor ==

Template:Itemtier - Optional template for single item pages with spots for Tier (or tree).

I removed the OPTIONAL templates per the Gswiki:Style_guide/Item_scripts page.

Please leave the detailed table, with concise information that doesn't require scrolling down forever to see the important information.
:I have responded on your user talk page. In the future, if you need to add a "signature" to a comment made to another user, you can do so with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>, which will automatically replace the four characters with your username and a date/timestamp. You can see what this looks like at the end of my comment here. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:20, 8 October 2024 (CDT)

==Voln for Dummies==
Hello! I have added a copyright blurb to the top of the page under the spoiler banner (lmk if it should go above it). I reached out to the content creator before publishing the page and I still have the email where they asked to please use any of their material. If you would like me to forward that email to you, please let me know! [[User:KVOTHETBL|KVOTHETBL]] ([[User talk:KVOTHETBL|talk]])
:Hi again, KVOTHETBL. Thank you for clarifying with your comment and a header that the [[Voln For Dummies]] guide article received permission from its authors to include it on the Gswiki. Unfortunately, you did not place the statement that permission was given from the authors in the correct place. As I said in my original communication, you need to clearly state that permission was given by the authors to include the guide on Gswiki on the Voln for Dummie's [[Talk:Voln For Dummies|talk page]]. This statement can be as simple as, "I have permission from the author to post this guide on the Gswiki. <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>" (with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> serving as your "signature" for the comment). Any additional remarks about permissions on the article itself are optional. I am updating the <nowiki>{{moddelete}}</nowiki> template with today's date, resetting the 7 day window. Please let me know if you need further clarification on how to do this. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:19, 10 December 2024 (CST)
::As a follow up, I noticed that you used the code from an older template on the top of your article for the optional statement. After consulting with the Wiki Team, I have updated that template to now be [[Template:Copyright-statement]], along with instructions on how to use it. If you would like to use it in addition to the needed statement on the Voln For Dummies talk page, you are welcome to do so. Thank you for bringing this older template to my attention so that it can be repurposed for future use. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:46, 10 December 2024 (CST)
:::Apologies! I misread your first communication and thought the notice could go in either place - I have updated the talk page. Please let me know if there are any further issues and thanks for your patience!
::::Thank you very much for taking those steps! Everything looks great on my end now. I have removed the mod-delete template and also updated the copyright-statement and player-guide templates for you. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:23, 11 December 2024 (CST)

Open Sea Adventures/maps

2025-05-20T10:02:18Z

WINTERDAWN: /* Arianiss's Version (May 2025) */

File:Open Sea Adventures (basic).png

2025-05-20T09:50:55Z

WINTERDAWN: WINTERDAWN uploaded a new version of File:Open Sea Adventures (basic).png

A full Open Sea Adventures map by Arianiss. I created this map in a way that should make it easy to update. Please contact me for adding/removing cells. Also, if anyone has suggestions, please let me know those too. Thank you!

File:Open Sea Adventures (moderate).jpg

2025-05-20T09:30:14Z

WINTERDAWN: WINTERDAWN uploaded a new version of File:Open Sea Adventures (moderate).jpg

Open Sea Adventures/maps

2025-05-20T09:28:10Z

WINTERDAWN: /* Arianiss's Version (May 2025) */

__NOTOC__
{{work-in-progress}}

This is a collection of Open Sea Adventures maps that have been used on this wiki. This listing is to give map users options as well as show older maps for timeline posterity.

== GM Thandiwe's Master Expansion Map ==

[[Image:Southern Ocean.jpg | thumb | none | alt=Excel Map of OSA Expansion | Thandiwe's Expansion Map (March 2025).]]

[[Image:Southern Ocean - Higher Res.png|thumb|none|alt=Higher resolution map of OSA Expansion for Southern Ocean|Higher Resolution OSA Expansion for Southern Ocean]]

[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15kT_GejRcSG_1K8FOMato1WtI-pLoAczKJXnCGSv0lo/edit?usp=sharing Spreadsheet Version of Map]

== GM Retser's Master Version ==

[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ia_IDE0MAaf_uqgO7FRKJslaUZ4PIGJI7_KQfu-qF2Q Click Here to Open the Google Sheet]

== Arianiss's Version (May 2025) ==

Prior versions of the full map were created with a wiki file size limit of 5mb. An update caused this to downgrade to 2mb. Achieving this file size would severely compromise the quality of the map and so I'm going to use Google Drive to release the high quality version.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fAbK6zhFvGJv2uS0pvbfaZqaJD5mDmB5 -- Open Sea Adventures (full). This map is accurate and complete as of May 2025.

[[Image:Open Sea Adventures (moderate).jpg | thumb | none | alt=A modified version of the Open Sea Adventures map created by Arianiss | Arianiss's version (May 2025). This map is accurate and complete as of May 2025.]]

[[Image:Open Sea Adventures (basic).png | thumb | none | alt=A modified version of the Open Sea Adventures map created by Arianiss | Arianiss's version (May 2025). This map is accurate and complete as of May 2025.]]

== Avery Trent's Map of the Flotilla (June 2023) ==

[[Image:Flotilla.png | thumb | none | alt=A map of the Flotilla by Avery Trent | This map is accurate and complete as of June 2023.]]

== Naamit's Version (July 2021) ==

[[Image:ElanthiaOcean.png | thumb | none | alt=A modified version of the Open Sea Adventures map created by Naamit | Naamit's version (July 2021). This map is accurate but incomplete as of November 2022.]]

== Athias's Version (January 2021) ==

This map is accurate but incomplete as of November 2022.

[https://gswiki.play.net/images/archive/a/ac/20210730191108%21ElanthiaOcean.png Click Here to Open Athias's Version]

== GM Retser's Original Version (November 2020) ==

This map is accurate but incomplete as of November 2022.

[https://gswiki.play.net/images/archive/a/ac/20210122043140%21ElanthiaOcean.png Click Here to Open Retser's Version]

== GM Retser's Original Version (July 2020) ==

This map is inaccurate. Do not use it. Listed for historical posterity.

[https://gswiki.play.net/images/archive/a/ac/20201113191429%21ElanthiaOcean.png Click Here to Open Retser's Version]

[[Category: Maps]]
[[Category: Open Sea Adventures]]

Open Sea Adventures/maps

2025-05-20T09:06:55Z

WINTERDAWN: /* Arianiss's Version (May 2025) */

__NOTOC__
{{work-in-progress}}

This is a collection of Open Sea Adventures maps that have been used on this wiki. This listing is to give map users options as well as show older maps for timeline posterity.

== GM Thandiwe's Master Expansion Map ==

[[Image:Southern Ocean.jpg | thumb | none | alt=Excel Map of OSA Expansion | Thandiwe's Expansion Map (March 2025).]]

[[Image:Southern Ocean - Higher Res.png|thumb|none|alt=Higher resolution map of OSA Expansion for Southern Ocean|Higher Resolution OSA Expansion for Southern Ocean]]

[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15kT_GejRcSG_1K8FOMato1WtI-pLoAczKJXnCGSv0lo/edit?usp=sharing Spreadsheet Version of Map]

== GM Retser's Master Version ==

[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ia_IDE0MAaf_uqgO7FRKJslaUZ4PIGJI7_KQfu-qF2Q Click Here to Open the Google Sheet]

== Arianiss's Version (May 2025) ==

Prior versions of the full map were created with a wiki file size limit of 5mb. An update caused this to downgrade to 2mb. Achieving this file size would severely compromise the quality of the map and so I'm going to use Google Drive to release the high quality version.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fAbK6zhFvGJv2uS0pvbfaZqaJD5mDmB5 -- Open Sea Adventures (full). This map is accurate and complete as of May 2025.











== Avery Trent's Map of the Flotilla (June 2023) ==

[[Image:Flotilla.png | thumb | none | alt=A map of the Flotilla by Avery Trent | This map is accurate and complete as of June 2023.]]

== Naamit's Version (July 2021) ==

[[Image:ElanthiaOcean.png | thumb | none | alt=A modified version of the Open Sea Adventures map created by Naamit | Naamit's version (July 2021). This map is accurate but incomplete as of November 2022.]]

== Athias's Version (January 2021) ==

This map is accurate but incomplete as of November 2022.

[https://gswiki.play.net/images/archive/a/ac/20210730191108%21ElanthiaOcean.png Click Here to Open Athias's Version]

== GM Retser's Original Version (November 2020) ==

This map is accurate but incomplete as of November 2022.

[https://gswiki.play.net/images/archive/a/ac/20210122043140%21ElanthiaOcean.png Click Here to Open Retser's Version]

== GM Retser's Original Version (July 2020) ==

This map is inaccurate. Do not use it. Listed for historical posterity.

[https://gswiki.play.net/images/archive/a/ac/20201113191429%21ElanthiaOcean.png Click Here to Open Retser's Version]

[[Category: Maps]]
[[Category: Open Sea Adventures]]

Talk:Open Sea Adventures/maps

2025-05-20T08:43:22Z

WINTERDAWN: /* Timeline of Changes */

== Updates and Suggestions to the Arianiss Map ==

I created this map in a way that should make it easy to update. Please contact me for adding/removing rooms. Also, if anyone has suggestions, please let me know those too. Thank you! [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 21:36, 9 June 2022 (CDT)

== OSA Ocean Issues ==

(this is also being used for a bug report and so some issues will be relatively minor)

* There "appears to be" a discrepancy between the official Elanith map and the OSA map. The OSA map has Caligos Isle in a position that "appears to be" where the ruins of Ta'Ashrim are per the Elanith map. I quote "appears to be" because, while the OSA map lines up with the curves of Elanith, this is all player speculation until we get EN ports and see how the OSA map interacts with the Elanith map.

* The travel captain OCEAN conversation has inaccurate information.

== OSA Ocean Issues Explanation ==

So in July of 2020 an initial map was uploaded. In September of 2020 changes were made and in November of 2020 a new map was released. However, some of the old information remains with the ship map and dock handler. Further, I don't believe the travel captain was revisited to update the OCEAN conversation as many points in that no longer make sense (although they do under the July 2020 map).

== Timeline of Changes ==

* March of 2025: The Southern Ocean and Isle of Ornath port added
* June of 2024: Glaoveln port added
* September of 2023: Ta'Nalfein port added
* January of 2023: Brisker's Cove port added
* December of 2022: Icemule port (and overland trail) added
* September of 2022: Ta'Vaalor port (and overland trail) added

Talk:Open Sea Adventures/maps

2024-06-26T22:05:22Z

WINTERDAWN: /* Timeline of Changes */

== Updates and Suggestions to the Arianiss Map ==

I created this map in a way that should make it easy to update. Please contact me for adding/removing rooms. Also, if anyone has suggestions, please let me know those too. Thank you! [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 21:36, 9 June 2022 (CDT)

== OSA Ocean Issues ==

(this is also being used for a bug report and so some issues will be relatively minor)

* There "appears to be" a discrepancy between the official Elanith map and the OSA map. The OSA map has Caligos Isle in a position that "appears to be" where the ruins of Ta'Ashrim are per the Elanith map. I quote "appears to be" because, while the OSA map lines up with the curves of Elanith, this is all player speculation until we get EN ports and see how the OSA map interacts with the Elanith map.

* The travel captain OCEAN conversation has inaccurate information.

== OSA Ocean Issues Explanation ==

So in July of 2020 an initial map was uploaded. In September of 2020 changes were made and in November of 2020 a new map was released. However, some of the old information remains with the ship map and dock handler. Further, I don't believe the travel captain was revisited to update the OCEAN conversation as many points in that no longer make sense (although they do under the July 2020 map).

== Timeline of Changes ==

* June of 2024: Glaoveln port added
* September of 2023: Ta'Nalfein port added
* January of 2023: Brisker's Cove port added
* December of 2022: Icemule port (and overland trail) added
* September of 2022: Ta'Vaalor port (and overland trail) added

Open Sea Adventures/maps

2024-06-25T06:48:36Z

WINTERDAWN: /* Arianiss's Version (June 2024) */

__NOTOC__
{{work-in-progress}}

This is a collection of Open Sea Adventures maps that have been used on this wiki. This listing is to give map users options as well as show older maps for timeline posterity.

== GM Retser's Master Version ==

[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ia_IDE0MAaf_uqgO7FRKJslaUZ4PIGJI7_KQfu-qF2Q Click Here to Open the Google Sheet]

== Arianiss's Version (June 2024) ==

The wiki was recently updated and the 5mb file size limit was downgraded to 2mb. This is under investigation by the wiki staff. That said, these maps were already compressed to reach the 5mb limit and further compression will degrade them to a level that I'm not happy with. For now, the maps are accessible through Google Drive.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_kiWkZSmOoMaXg1-I3VRvtdpNg-gO87u -- Open Sea Adventures (full). This map is accurate and complete as of June 2024.











== Avery Trent's Map of the Flotilla (June 2023) ==

[[Image:Flotilla.png | thumb | none | alt=A map of the Flotilla by Avery Trent | This map is accurate and complete as of June 2023.]]

== Naamit's Version (July 2021) ==

[[Image:ElanthiaOcean.png | thumb | none | alt=A modified version of the Open Sea Adventures map created by Naamit | Naamit's version (July 2021). This map is accurate but incomplete as of November 2022.]]

== Athias's Version (January 2021) ==

This map is accurate but incomplete as of November 2022.

[https://gswiki.play.net/images/archive/a/ac/20210730191108%21ElanthiaOcean.png Click Here to Open Athias's Version]

== GM Retser's Original Version (November 2020) ==

This map is accurate but incomplete as of November 2022.

[https://gswiki.play.net/images/archive/a/ac/20210122043140%21ElanthiaOcean.png Click Here to Open Retser's Version]

== GM Retser's Original Version (July 2020) ==

This map is inaccurate. Do not use it. Listed for historical posterity.

[https://gswiki.play.net/images/archive/a/ac/20201113191429%21ElanthiaOcean.png Click Here to Open Retser's Version]

[[Category: Maps]]
[[Category: Open Sea Adventures]]

Open Sea Adventures/maps

2024-06-25T06:45:19Z

WINTERDAWN: /* Arianiss's Version (January 2024) */

__NOTOC__
{{work-in-progress}}

This is a collection of Open Sea Adventures maps that have been used on this wiki. This listing is to give map users options as well as show older maps for timeline posterity.

== GM Retser's Master Version ==

[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ia_IDE0MAaf_uqgO7FRKJslaUZ4PIGJI7_KQfu-qF2Q Click Here to Open the Google Sheet]

== Arianiss's Version (June 2024) ==

The wiki was recently updated and the 5mb file size limit was downgraded to 2mb. This is under investigation by the wiki staff. That said, these maps were already compressed to reach the 5mb limit and further compression will degrade them to a level that I'm not happy with. For now, the maps are accessible through Google Drive.

Open Sea Adventures (full) (Arianiss's version (June 2024). This map is accurate and complete as of June 2024.) -> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_kiWkZSmOoMaXg1-I3VRvtdpNg-gO87u











== Avery Trent's Map of the Flotilla (June 2023) ==

[[Image:Flotilla.png | thumb | none | alt=A map of the Flotilla by Avery Trent | This map is accurate and complete as of June 2023.]]

== Naamit's Version (July 2021) ==

[[Image:ElanthiaOcean.png | thumb | none | alt=A modified version of the Open Sea Adventures map created by Naamit | Naamit's version (July 2021). This map is accurate but incomplete as of November 2022.]]

== Athias's Version (January 2021) ==

This map is accurate but incomplete as of November 2022.

[https://gswiki.play.net/images/archive/a/ac/20210730191108%21ElanthiaOcean.png Click Here to Open Athias's Version]

== GM Retser's Original Version (November 2020) ==

This map is accurate but incomplete as of November 2022.

[https://gswiki.play.net/images/archive/a/ac/20210122043140%21ElanthiaOcean.png Click Here to Open Retser's Version]

== GM Retser's Original Version (July 2020) ==

This map is inaccurate. Do not use it. Listed for historical posterity.

[https://gswiki.play.net/images/archive/a/ac/20201113191429%21ElanthiaOcean.png Click Here to Open Retser's Version]

[[Category: Maps]]
[[Category: Open Sea Adventures]]

Open Sea Adventures

2024-06-25T06:38:11Z

WINTERDAWN: /* The Ocean */

{{TOCright}}'''Open Sea Adventures''' is a new expansion to the game that was released in [[Prime]] on September 3, 2020. Set sail on the [[Great Western Sea]] and launch into a brand new adventure on the [[Tenebrous Cauldron]] and [[Great Western Sea]] - complete with dynamic weather messaging and a multitude of rooms. Get started by visiting port town [[Kraken's Fall]] to purchase one of 6 ships: sloop, brigantine, carrack, frigate, galleon, or man o’ war. Gather your friends and set sail, braving the perils of the vast seas, as you work to raise your reputation and notoriety. Fight Krolvin Pirates, Ethereal Pirates, and the Dreaded Dark Pirates with your life and your crew's life on the line. Will you set sail in a perilous circle, or journey from Darkstone Bay to Kraken’s Fall? Will you cast your lines and take your friends out and avoid all enemy ships? Will you attempt to be the most notorious Captain or Swashbuckler?

==System Overview==

* Explore the newly-accessible ocean and experience dynamic weather messaging.
* Buy your own ship and travel in style.
* Gain reputation to access better ships and cosmetic upgrades.
* Gain notoriety and unlock special [[title system|titles]] - both temporary and permanent.
* Test your mettle in ship versus ship combat. Fire your cannons, repair your ship, or flee from your enemies!
* All new ship boarding. Fight waves of enemies aboard your ship as you attempt to come out victorious. Defeat them all, take their treasure, and raze their ship!
* Lost at sea? Lose your crew and your morale? There is a new rescue system to help you get back to port should you face total defeat on the high seas.

===The Ocean===

The ocean is massive in scale. Players can use ships to travel between several towns west and east of the DragonSpine:

* [[Wehnimer's Landing]]
* [[Teras Isle]]
* [[Solhaven]]
* [[Kraken's Fall]]
* [[River's Rest]]
* [[Ta'Vaalor]]
* [[Icemule Trace]]
* [[Brisker's Cove]]
* [[Ta'Nalfein]]
* [[Glaoveln]]

A collection of various Open Sea Adventures maps can be found [[/maps | here]].

===Reputation, Notoriety===

Reputation and notoriety are gained with Kraken's Fall by hunting down pirates or performing tasks at the [[Sea Hag's Roost]] such as culling pirates, hunting captains, or sinking ships. ''Reputation'' unlocks more cosmetic options and the ability to purchase the larger ships (but does not result in a price reduction). ''Notoriety'' tracks your total infamy on the seas with "all time" notoriety ({{boldmono|OSA INFO}}) and a 30-day notoriety tracking leadboard which is mostly for bragging rights but also unlocks possible [[title]]s. Your total pirate kills are also tracked with more tracking planned for future release phases.

Your Reputation starts out at Neutral and increases by performing the following tasks:
* Turning in Salvaged Crates
* Killing Pirates
* RAZEing ships
* Turning in completed tasks
* TBD

{| {{prettytable}}
|- style="background:#00004C; vertical-align: top; font-size: larger; color:white;"
|Reputation Rank || Reputation Required
|-
| Neutral || 0
|-
| Friendly || 1000
|-
| Amiable || 2500
|-
| Revered || 4500
|-
| Exalted || 7000
|-
| Ally || 10000
|}

===Death and Total Failure===

Should you experience the unique [[Death%27s_Sting#Hunting_Ground_Specific_Death_Messaging|death messaging]] by [[death|dying]] on the sea or falling overboard - where you will eventually drown, you will be lucky enough to either be rescued by good sailors or by greedy pirate. What happens next depends on which group finds you and returns you to Kraken's Fall. Pirates will ransom your freedom while the town will charge you for the rescue services provided. The death/rescue event takes 4.2 minutes. If your ship is sunk, you must repair it. All fees must be paid on a ship before you can launch it again.

===New Verbs===

* {{boldmono|[[OSA (verb)|OSA]]}} displays information related to the system as well as fines, roles, current task, and other help.
* {{boldmono|[[SHIP (verb)|SHIP]]}} displays customizations and upgrades of owned ship, allows you to scuttle your ship to end your journey, and provides information on the systems, processes, and commands related to managing and using your ship.
* {{boldmono|[[REPUTATION (verb)|REPUTATION]]}} displays information on your reputation with the town of Kraken's Fall as well as with [[Reim]].

==Ships==

To buy a ship, you need to visit [[Chip n' Dwight's]] on Deadeye's Road in Kraken's Fall or [[Wyvern Elite Coastal Crafts]] in [[Mistwatch]]. When first starting on your career as a captain, you will only have access to the sloop. To earn access to the larger ships, you will need to earn reputation with the town of Kraken's Fall. You can do so by performing tasks or hunting down pirate ships out on our beloved ocean, the [[Tenebrous Cauldron]], or on the [[Great Western Sea]]. This may be done on other people's ships, not just your own.

Prior to October 2022, ships were a one-time purchase and could never be re-sold or transferred. However, a change was made that allows you to TRADE your ship in. This will give you 80% of the base value. This value can be used to purchase a larger ship. Think of it like a running credit balance on an account. Trading your ship in will not remove your bird.

Also, the ship salesmen will now allow you to DEED your ship. To DEED your ship it will cost you 20% of the base value in silver. The deed will carry over all mechanical and cosmetic upgrades. The deed will NOT include your birds. Once in possession of a ship deed, move to your desired port and RAISE the deed to claim the ship at that location.

Please keep in mind both of these features will remove titles earned by owning a certain number of ships. Increasing your reputation does not decrease the cost of the ships.

{{OSA_Ships}}

====Naming====

Your ship will have a random name, assigned when you purchase it. This can be changed (re-randomized) for a fee (30,000) by talking to the ship name registrar within the [[Inking Den]]'s Office of Petitions. A partial, yet growing list of potential [[ship name]]s is available to view or contribute to based on your own ships.

===Ship Upgrading and Cosmetics===

You can upgrade your ship by visiting one of the many merchants around Kraken's Fall. Each merchant has a specialty in a service they can provide. Functional upgrades offer mechanical gains to make your ship stronger. Cosmetic upgrades allow you to customize and personalize your ship's appearance to suit your character.

====Functional Upgrades====

{| {{prettytable}}
|- style="background:#00004C; vertical-align: top; font-size: larger; color:white;"
!Upgrade Item !!Location !!More Information
|-
|Sails ||[[Yardarm's Skirt]] on Deadeye's Road ||Upgrading your sails will make your ship sail faster.
|-
|Hull Strength ||[[Swabbing Starts]] on Siphon Street ||Upgrading your hull strength will make your ship able to withstand more damage.
|-
|Cannons||[[Maritime Defenses]] on South Arm Road ||Upgrading your cannons increases the total number of cannons on your ship.
|-
|Cargo Hold ||[[Lean To]] on Deadeye's Road ||Increases the hold's storage capacity of wood and cannon balls. Each level of upgrade also adds 20lbs to cargo bin capacity.
|-
|Courier Birds ||[[All Hands]] on South Arm Road||Allows remote task redemption and acquisition. (Ask merchant about BIRD BOAT TYPE)
|}

====Cosmetic Upgrades====

{| {{prettytable}}
|- style="background:#00004C; vertical-align: top; font-size: larger; color:white;"
|Upgrade Item ||Shop Location ||Upgrade Type
|-
|Cannons ||[[Maritime Defenses]] on South Arm Road||article, material
|-
|Captain's Quarters ||[[Sailor's Solace]] on Siphon Street|| chair (material, type, long), table (color, material), bed (color, material, long), wall (material), style, map (color, material), trash (color, material)
|-
|Crew Quarters ||[[All Hands]] on South Arm Road||style
|-
|Figureheads ||[[Bowsprit's Maiden]] on Cranial Crawl||type, color, material
|-
|Flags ||[[Vexillology Visions]] on South Arm Road||color, material
|-
|Gangplank ||[[Swabbing Starts]] on Siphon Street||color, material
|-
|Hulls ||[[Swabbing Starts]] on Siphon Street||color, material
|-
|Mess Hall||[[Grub, Gruel, and Grog]] on South Arm Road||food (five types), furniture (color, material)
|-
|Sails ||[[Yardarm's Skirt]] on Deadeye's Road||color, material
|-
|Wheels ||[[Fighting the Helm]] on Deadeye's Road||color, material
|-
|}

===Ship Combat===

While sailing, you have a random chance to be attacked by an enemy ship from these types: general/mixed (these have dark ships), ethereal (undead), or krolvin. The enemy ship is private and spawned specifically for you and your crew. Once engaged, you can follow the above-outlined combat for general boarding. Once boarded, creatures spawn in waves for everyone on board at the level of those gathered. These match the level of those in each room, so separate if you need to. You can spread out onto both ships, but your ship can be hit by cannon fire or arrows while boarded. (This appears to do damage only to the characters while boarded, not the ship.)

Ethereal (undead) pirates require blessed magic metal or, if using ranged, magical woods or magical metal arrowheads.

{| {{prettytable}}
|- style="background:#00004C; vertical-align: top; font-size: larger; color:white;"
|Enemy Ship Size ||Enemy Count
|-
|scope="row"|Sloop ||15-20
|-
|scope="row"|Brigantine ||30-40
|-
|scope="row"|Carrack ||35-45
|-
| scope="row"|Galleon ||50-60
|-
| scope="row"|Frigate ||60-80
|-
| scope="row"|Man O'War ||90-120
|}

If you manage to deplete the enemy ship of units, a boss (Ethereal Captain, Krolvin Captain, or Pirate Captain) will spawn that must be defeated. If you defeat the boss, you can {{boldmono|SEARCH}} the treasure pile on their ship for boxes. You may also want to take their supply crate to restock your own ship.

<b>Salvage crates</b> can be gained from searching the treasure pile or, if you sink a ship without boarding, one may appear in the water. The salvage crate will be bound to you and your crew when picked up. These can be brought to the handler and turned in for a loot chest based on the tier of the salvage. The loot crates will have an assortment of items, including gems of varying rarities, Kraken's Fall bank notes of varying amounts, and a chance at an item. Upon handing off the salvage crate, the handler will award any crew members present in the same room with Notoriety and Reputation in addition to the rewards aforementioned. (You <b>must</b> be present in the same room.)

If you want a task before going out, go to the Sea Hag's Roost, Tavern and {{boldmono|GET BOARD}}. Once you have a task, you can use {{boldmono|OSA TASK}} for details and help or to abandon it. To turn in the task, return to the Sea Hag and {{boldmono|TURN BOARD}}. Task boards are also available at most dock handlers.

===Ship Repairing & Fees===

As you sail your ship, it may incur damage that must be repaired. To repair your ship after it is destroyed or damaged, you will need to visit the boatswain. A boatswain can be found near the following major ports:

*Kraken's Fall - Academy of the Bos'n
*Solhaven - Ardenys's Academy for Bos'ns
*Ta'Vaalor - Shipshape Overhaul
*Wehnimer's Landing - Nexyn's Notables

You may also find yourself with fines due to services provided by the town while out on the open sea or trapped in a back alley. You will need to pay these off at the local debt collector. Having debts in either form will prevent you from launching your ship again. Maximum ship fees for a scuttled or destroyed ship are listed in the Summary of Ship Statistics table.

While in combat, you'll see messaging that a cannon ball hit your ship in different spots. It is imperative that you repair the damage done (see ship commands below) or your ship will sink.

===Ship Roles===

Ship roles will provide you with bonuses, beginning at the adept rank, as you level them up. You will need to declare your role before taking part in a journey. The bonuses can range from more damage when firing a cannon to faster interaction with navigation. To declare your role, you will need to visit the NPC in Kraken's Fall. You {{boldmono|ASK OFFICIAL ABOUT DECLARE <role>}} in exchange for 10,000 silver. He is located in the Town Hall, the [[Inking Den]], in the Office of Employment. Each role has some specialties that pertain to its title. You can look at the {{boldmono|OSA ROLE}} command to see your status.

Role Experience can be earned performing the following tasks:
* Steering the ship
* Firing the cannons
* Loading the cannons
* Repairing the ship
* Razing an enemy ship
* Turning in salvaged crates
* Turning in a completed task board

The Role Ranks are Rookie, Novice, Adept, Veteran, Master. Each Role Rank earned provides a Role Bonus starting from the Novice rank (nothing is earned as a Rookie). The Role Bonuses earned at each rank stack with ones earned at the lower rank. Role Experience required increases each rank up to a maximum of 3000.

{| {{prettytable}}
|- style="background:#00004C; vertical-align: top; font-size: larger; color:white;"
| Ship Role || Role Rank || Role EXP || Role Bonus
|-
! rowspan=4 |Boatswain
| Novice || 100 || -
|-
| Adept || 500 || Provides a small bonus to each repair. Provides a very small chance to not consume repair materials.
|-
| Veteran || 1500 || Provides a medium bonus to each repair. Provides a small chance to not consume repair materials. Able to retrieve wood from the supply pile faster. Able to make repairs faster and see the health of each room of the ship.
|-
| Master || 3000 || Provides a large bonus to each repair. Provides a medium chance to not consume repair materials. Able to retrieve wood from the supply pile much faster. Able to make repairs much faster and see the health of each room of the ship.
|-
! rowspan=4 |Captain
| Novice || 100 || -
|-
| Adept || 500 || Provides a small bonus to pushing the capstan.
|-
| Veteran || 1500 || Provides a small bonus to damage and accuracy with cannons. Provides a small bonus to each repair. Able to turn the wheel faster.
|-
| Master || 3000 || Provides a small bonus to pushing the capstan and see the health of each room of the ship. Provides a medium bonus to cannon damage and accuracy. Provides a medium bonus to repaired damage. Able to fix the ship, load the cannons, and turn the wheel faster.
|-
! rowspan=4 |Cannoneer
| Novice || 100 || -
|-
| Adept || 500 || Provides a small bonus to cannon damage
|-
| Veteran || 1500 || Provides a medium bonus to cannon damage and a small bonus to accuracy. Able to retrieve cannon balls from the supply pile faster. Able to shoot a cannon faster. Able to load the cannon balls slightly faster. Has a chance to fire the cannon twice.
|-
| Master || 3000 || Provides a large bonus to cannon damage and a medium bonus to accuracy. Able to retrieve cannon balls from the supply pile much faster. Able to shoot a cannon much faster. Able to load the cannon balls faster. Has a chance to fire the cannon twice.
|-
! rowspan=4 |Navigator
| Novice || 100 || -
|-
| Adept || 500 || Able to manipulate the sails slightly faster. Able to steer the ship slightly faster.
|-
| Veteran || 1500 || Able to manipulate the sails, wheel and capstan slightly faster. Able to still see the map while in a storm. Able to JUMP from the CROW'S NEST to one of the following locations: helm, bow, deck, pier, and dock. Able to TURN the WHEEL at SHIP during the boarding engagement to speed up the process.
|-
| Master || 3000 || Able to manipulate the sails, capstan, and steer the ship much faster. Able to JUMP from the CROW'S NEST to one of the following locations: helm, bow, deck, pier, and dock. Able to still see the map while in a storm. Provides a large bonus to pushing the capstan. Able to TURN the WHEEL at SHIP during the boarding engagement to speed up the process.
|-
! rowspan=4 |Swashbuckler
| Novice || 100 || -
|-
| Adept || 500 || Provides a small bonus to avoid arrow volleys, cannon shrapnel, and cannon barrages.
|-
| Veteran || 1500 || Provides a small bonus to avoid arrow volleys, cannon shrapnel, and cannon barrages. Able to JUMP from the CROW'S NEST to one of the following locations: helm, bow, deck, port, dock and enemy ship when boarded. Provides a small bonus to damage with cannons
|-
| Master || 3000 || Provides a medium bonus to avoid arrow volleys, cannon shrapnel, and cannon barrages. Able to JUMP from the CROW'S NEST to one of the following locations: helm, bow, deck, port, dock and enemy ship when boarded. Provides a medium bonus to damage and accuracy with cannons. Able to shoot the cannons faster. Has a chance to fire the cannon twice.

|}

===Ship & Sailing Basics===

====Setting Sail====
To launch your ship, you will need to find the dock handler outside the pier on Deadeye's Road. You can {{boldmono|RETRIEVE}}, {{boldmono|STORE}}, or {{boldmono|STOCK}} your ship here. Retrieving will find an empty spot along the pier and launch your ship for you to use. If you are taking a quick break between voyages, avoid the retrieval fee by leaving your ship at the pier. Just remember that all ships are stored after two hours docked or four hours stationary on the ocean for system efficiency. After you have successfully retrieved your ship, you can find it out on the pier. The handler will tell you which space on the pier your ship occupies.

The absolute minimum the sloop is stocked with on retrieval is 25 of each material; the retrieval fee covers half of your supplies and the ability to launch your ship. If you want more, you can {{boldmono|STOCK}} your ship with {{boldmono|WOOD}} or {{boldmono|CANNON}} balls, and it will fill up your cargo supplies for your adventure. Cannon balls are 100 silvers each and wood is 100 silvers a plank. You can avoid this extra fee if you would like to immediately board an enemy ship and take over some of their supplies.

Once you reach your ship, you can {{boldmono|GO SHIP}} (sloop, brigantine, etc.) to have the gangplank deployed. Once on your ship, you can either {{boldmono|PULL GANGPLANK}} or {{boldmono|PUSH GANGPLANK}} to deploy or retract it. It is best to familiarize yourself with the layout of your ship prior to {{boldmono|DEPART}}ing on your journey.

#{{boldmono|RETRIEVE}}
#{{boldmono|STOCK}}
#{{boldmono|PUSH GANGPLANK}} deploys your gangplank and {{boldmono|PULL GANGPLANK}} retracts it. You cannot deploy your gangplank into the middle of the ocean. You can only deploy it at a port or when engaged with another ship and in boarding range.
#{{boldmono|DEPART}} can be used when you are ready to start your voyage from a port.

====Sailing and Steering Your Ship====

Use the map located in the Captain's Quarters to gain your bearing based on the nautical map name. Each 50-room block has its own unique identifier and the [[#The Ocean|ocean map]] will give you an idea as to which block you're in. At this time, there is no bias in what type of enemy you get based upon where you are in the map, so sail freely!

There is messaging when the ship moves that indicates the state of the sails of your ship. This messaging was added to help players identify if they forgot to handle their sails. If you or your crewmates are able, consider casting [[Call Wind (912)|call wind]] or [[Breeze (612)|breeze]] on your sails, as this will speed you along as you make way.

{|{{prettytable}}
|- style="background:#00004C; vertical-align: top; font-size: larger; color:white;"
|+Sail Messaging on Movement
|-
|No Sails||The man o' war drifts slowly north, its sails fully raised.
|-
|Other Sails||The man o' war cuts through the ocean, heading north.
|-
|Full Sails||The man o' war cuts through the ocean, heading north at full speed.
|-
|}

You have {{boldmono|TURNed}} your wheel in a direction, you will no longer be able to turn it in that same direction again.

<pre{{log2}}>turn wheel port
You grab hold of the maple wheel and do your best to steer the ship toward the bustling port.

turn wheel port
The maple wheel is already turned that way!</pre>

#{{boldmono|PUSH CAPSTAN}} to raise the anchor. You can {{boldmono|KICK}} the capstan to deploy it again.
#{{boldmono|LOWER SAIL}} to get more wind and {{boldmono|RAISE}} sails to get less. This will impact how fast you can sail. If you are sailing a larger ship you will need to manipulate all the sails.
#{{boldmono|TURN WHEEL <DIRECTION>}} will allow you to steer your ship. After you steer your ship you will need to wait for the wind to carry it into the next area. {{boldmono|TURN WHEEL SHIP}} will start navigating for a boarding process. {{boldmono|TURN WHEEL PORT}} will sail you to safety if you're at a port.
#{{boldmono|LOOK MAP}} in the Captain's Quarters will allow you to see where you are on the ocean.

====Stormy Weather====

{{boldmono|ASK HANDLER ABOUT WEATHER}} before going out to get an idea of which oceans to steer clear of or toward! Each area of the Tenebrous Cauldron, the Great Western Sea, and the Eastern Seaboard may have different weather. Storms can have the following effects:

#Crew members have a chance to experience some maneuvers if they're out on the deck during a storm.
#The storm can cause your ship to misbehave, including steering your ship in a different direction and increasing the time it takes to reach a new area.
#Enemy ships are more dangerous. You will face ships potentially out of your league and more difficult ships more often.

<pre{{log2}}>The dock handler says, "Based on recent weather reports, here is what the ocean is lookin' like as of right now."

The Tenebrous Cauldron:
North Blue: Light winds with partial clouds
South Blue: Calm seas and blue skies
West Blue: Light winds with partial clouds
East Blue: Calm seas and blue skies

The Great Western Sea
The Obsidian Trench: Light winds with partial clouds
The Obsidian Sea: Light winds with partial clouds
Sea of Lazuli: Light winds with partial clouds
Kestrel Sea: Light winds with partial clouds
Cephalod Straits: Heavy winds and rain with dark skies
Darkstone Bay: Light winds with partial clouds
Cobalt Depths: Light winds with partial clouds
Deep Viridian Sea: Calm seas and blue skies
Lucky Seaway: Calm seas and blue skies
Maelstrom Bay: Light winds with partial clouds
The Mirkewater: Calm seas and blue skies
Southron Sea: Calm seas and blue skies
Emerald Waters: Light winds with partial clouds
The Frostmain: Heavy winds and rain with dark skies

Eastern Seaboard
Gwyrd Muirne: Light winds with partial clouds
Muirne Cailt: Light winds with partial clouds
Gulf of Bhoreas: Light winds with partial clouds
Indigo Trenches: Calm seas and blue skies
Bay of Anguillids: Light winds with partial clouds
Caligean Sea: Light winds with partial clouds
Sea of Mists: Light winds with partial clouds</pre>

====Engaging in Battles====

Cannon balls should be taken onto the deck of your ship to load the cannons. You can only {{boldmono|FIRE}} your cannon if you are engaged with an enemy.

#{{boldmono|GET CANNON BALL}} from your cargo hold then move to your cannon and {{boldmono|LOAD}} it. You are limited to loading your cannons to the total number of cannons per side. Cannon balls are temporary and will self-destruct if not used.
#{{boldmono|LOAD CANNON}}
#{{boldmono|FIRE CANNON}} - you can only fire if you're engaged with an enemy ship prior to boarding.

====Boarding a Ship====

Once you are within range of the enemy ship, you will be able to board. You will receive messaging about the ship being almost in boarding range and then receive this message:

<pre{{log2}}>The sides of the <other ship> collide against your <ship>! Several ropes with claw-shaped hooks on the end find purchase into the railing of your <ship>. Battle cries sound off as those on the <other ship> prepare to board!</pre>

There are ambush traps possible. The number of ambushes that can occur depends on the size of your ship and are randomized between 1 and the maximum number possible. You will not receive an ambush trap when leaving a room.

{|{{prettytable}}
|+ Ambush Traps
|-
!Ship!!Max Possible
|-
|Sloop ||1
|-
|Brigantine ||2
|-
|Carrack ||3
|-
|Galleon ||4
|-
|Frigate ||4
|-
|Man o'war ||6
|}

See flag information below for more information on pirate spawn rate.

Once you have razed the ship, you will no longer be able to empty the Captain's Quarters and you will get the following message:

<pre{{log2}}>
The battle-marred brigantine rapidly descends beneath the cold, dark waters.
You gain some experience!
You gain some fame!
You gain role experience!
You have earned some notoriety.
Your reputation with Kraken's Fall just got better.

#{{boldmono|PUSH GANGPLANK}}
#{{boldmono|GO GANGPLANK}}
#{{boldmono|LISTEN}} while on the enemy ship to see how many of the enemy are left.
#{{boldmono|SEARCH}} the treasure pile after you've defeated the boss.
#{{boldmono|RAZE}} to destroy the ship.

====Ship Flag Settings====
You can now use {{boldmono|SHIP FLAG}} on your ship. If you're not the captain, this only displays which flag the captain is flying. This flag is for mechanical use only. The command has a 15 minute cooldown per use. You are at "Neutral" by default.

* White Flag prevents PVE/ENEMY boats from spawning against your ship. This will NOT stop a boat that is already spawned for you or if you're already engaged.
* No Flag keeps your encounter rate at 30% chance. No Flag provides 4 minute encounter immunity after sinking an enemy ship.
* Black flag raises your encounter rate to 40% chance. Black Flag provides 3 minute encounter immunity after sinking an enemy ship. This also increases creature spawn rate.

====Restocking and Fixing Your Ship====

Below deck in the cargo hold, you can find wood and cannon balls. It is a good idea to restock your wood and cannon balls to full prior to starting your journey. Your ship will have a half-supply of wood planks and cannon balls when retrieved from storage. The wood is used to {{boldmono|FIX}} rooms that have taken damage from cannon fire. {{boldmono|ASSESS}} from any room on your ship to get a readout of damage in that room. Boatswains (veteran rank and above) and Captains (master rank) can get a readout of all damage to each room of the ship. Your ship's health is a formula of the hull strength by a multiplier. As it takes damage, it detracts from a total health pool. Repair any damage received before taking too much and sinking.

You can store things in the cargo bin on the ship; this is the only place that is safe from the janitor.

#{{boldmono|ASSESS}} while used on your ship will give you a readout of any damage in that specific room.
#{{boldmono|GET WOOD}} from your Cargo Hold then move to where your ship took damage to repair it.
#{{boldmono|FIX}}

If you have a supply crate, you can {{boldmono|PUT CRATE ON WOOD}} or {{boldmono|PUT CRATE ON BALLS}} to restock them. You can {{boldmono|LOOK WOOD}} or {{boldmono|LOOK BALLS}} to check supplies.

====Interacting with the Ocean====

If you are thrown from the ship, you can climb back up onto the ship you fell off of even if the anchor is up.

*{{boldmono|LOOK OCEAN}} will let you glance out from your ship's deck to see where you are on the Tenebrous Cauldron. You can use {{boldmono|PEER}} in directions to glance ahead. The crow's nest will allow you to peer a little farther.
*{{boldmono|WATCH OCEAN}} will let you keep an up-to-date glance at the ocean room as your ship sails. This information will go to the familiar window.
*{{boldmono|JUMP}} can be used on the main deck of the ship to jump into the ocean. You'll want to drop your anchor before doing this!
*{{boldmono|CONSIDER}} will let you check the status of the weather on the ocean.
*{{boldmono|PEER}} will let you look at the ocean in the directions provided. If you are in the crow's nest you will be able to peer an extra room out.

If you have an item with the noun ''spyglass'' or ''telescope'' and you {{boldmono|PEER}} with it in your hand, you will be able to see one additional room. This provides for being able to see two rooms when on deck and three rooms when in the crow's nest.

====Quick Command List====

* PUSH/PULL GANGPLANK to extend or draw in the gangplank.
* RAISE/LOWER SAIL to adjust speed.
* TURN WHEEL any cardinal or ordinal direction for normal travel.
* TURN WHEEL PORT to steer the ship at a port in the same room as your ship.
* TURN WHEEL SHIP to start a boarding action when an enemy ship is present.
* PUSH/KICK CAPSTAN to raise and lower anchor.
* LOAD CANNON while holding a cannon ball to load your cannons.
* FIRE CANNON to fire a cannon at an enemy ship when engaged.
* LOOK <OBJECT> has some information for some of the objects on your ship if you get confused.
* FIX damage in appropriate rooms.
* LOOK MAP for a general readout of where you are.
* DEPART to set sail once your gangplank is retracted and anchor is up.
* ASSESS to determine the condition of the room you are in and health.
* LOOK OCEAN to take a quick look at the sea your ship is in.
* WATCH OCEAN to keep a continuous eye on the ocean. This will display in your familiar window.
* CONSIDER will let you check the status of the weather on the ocean.
* PEER will let you look at the ocean in the directions provided. If you are in the crow's nest you will be able to peer an extra room out.
* JUMP can be used from the main deck where the gangplank resides to dive into the water. From there you can climb back onto the ship.
* RAZE is used on the enemy ship when all enemies are gone.
* LISTEN is used on the enemy ship to get an idea of how many units are left.

==Future Releases==

More is planned to be released to this system via a phased approach. Visit the #open-sea-adventures channel on the Official Discord for more information.

==Common Questions and Answers==

'''What happens when I log out of the game while I'm on the ocean on my ship?'''<br/>
When you log back in, you will be at the last port you departed from and you will have a fine for your ship being left out at sea.

'''Can I travel by ship to other towns?'''<br/>
Yes. There are ports at River's Rest, Teras Isle, Wehnimer's Landing, Kraken's Fall, Icemule, Ta'Vaalor, Solhaven, Brisker's Cove, and Nielira Harbor.

'''Where is my ship stored?'''<br/>
Your ships are stored at the port either where they were last retrieved, or where they last moored. Ships can be transported for a fee.

'''Is [[fishing]] available?'''<br/>
You can fish at Kraken's Fall, but not from your ship.

==Credits==

{|{{prettytable}} width="50%"
|-
!bgcolor="#fafeff" colspan=3|Project Lead, Concept, Design: Retser
|-
|bgcolor="#fafeff" colspan=3|'''Kraken's Fall Lead: Thandiwe'''
|-
|rowspan=12|Buildings
|Elysani
|The Intoxicating Flora, Mystigoggles Magicorium
|-
|Kynlee
|The Bait 'N Weight Shack, Fishing Pier
|-
|Naionna
|Bejewled Booty, The Naked Fauna, Rising Pint, The Soup Bone
|-
|Netz
|Rock Lobster
|-
|Sindin
|Brewmaster's Tap, Sea Hag's Roost, Storm Petrel's Wing, The Threadbare Admiral
|-
|Thandiwe
|Academy of the Bos'n, All Hands, Boarding House, Chip n' Dwight's, Fighting the Helm, Grub, Gruel, and Grog, Guard Tower, Inking Den, Irosah's Armaments, Knife's Edge, Kraken's Fall Jailhouse, The Last Frontier, Lean To, Maritime Defenses, Molskroen Hall, Sailor's Solace, Sunfist Outpost, Swabbing Starts, Weather Station, Yardarm's Skirt
|-
|Tivvy
|Vexillology Visions
|-
|Quilic
|Adventurer's Guild, Bank, Bushybrow's Collectibles, Unburied Treasures
|-
|Valyrka
|Lighthouse
|-
|Vanah
|Leaf and Bean
|-
|Xayle
|Captain's Cup, Kelpie Beds, The Melting Pot, Sailcloth Findings
|-
|Xeraphina
|Bowsprit's Maiden, Cartwright, Citizenship Office, Forges of the Kraken, The Peaceful Porpoise
|-
|rowspan=2|Paint
|Flannihan
|Kraken's Fall Hunting Grounds
|-
|Thandiwe
|Kraken's Fall, Pier, Main Gate, Logging colony
|-
|NPCs
|
|Thandiwe, Netz, Naionna, Xeraphina, Retser, Modrian, Kynlee
|-
|Messaging
|
|Netz
|-
|Creatures
|
|Kynlee, Thandiwe, Retser
|-
|bgcolor="#fafeff" colspan=3|'''Ocean Lead: Retser'''
|-
|Paint
|
|Valyrka, Naionna
|-
|Messaging
|
|Valyrka, Naionna, Netz
|-
|Shape and mapping
|
|Grackner, Sook, Thandiwe, Naos, Retser
|-
|Ocean systems
|
|Naos, Retser
|-
|bgcolor="#fafeff" colspan=3|'''Standard Systems Lead: Retser'''
|-
|Coding
|
|Modrian, Kynlee, Thandiwe, Naos, Retser
|-
|bgcolor="#fafeff" colspan=3|'''OSA Systems Lead: Retser'''
|-
|Ship Paint
|
|Elidi
|-
|Ship Food
|
|Mariath
|-
|Ship Cosmetics
|
|Elidi, Retser
|-
|Ship Cosmetic Systems
|
|Retser
|-
|Ship Building
|
|Retser
|-
|NPCs
|
|Retser
|-
|Combat
|
|Retser
|-
|Creatures
|
|Retser
|-
|bgcolor="#fafeff" colspan=3|'''QC Team'''
|-
|
|
|Flannihan, Mariath, Xayle, Valyrka, Isten, Tivvy, Vanah, Sleken, Modrian, Itzel, Kynlee, Naos, Retser, Kveta
|-
|}

==See Also==

* [[/saved posts|Saved posts]]
* [[/maps | Various maps]]
* [[Flotilla History]]

[[Category:Open Sea Adventures]]

Open Sea Adventures/maps

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WINTERDAWN: /* Arianiss's Version (January 2024) */

__NOTOC__
{{work-in-progress}}

This is a collection of Open Sea Adventures maps that have been used on this wiki. This listing is to give map users options as well as show older maps for timeline posterity.

== GM Retser's Master Version ==

[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ia_IDE0MAaf_uqgO7FRKJslaUZ4PIGJI7_KQfu-qF2Q Click Here to Open the Google Sheet]

== Arianiss's Version (January 2024) ==

The wiki was recently updated and the 5mb file size limit was downgraded to 2mb. This is under investigation by the wiki staff. That said, these maps were already compressed to reach the 5mb limit and further compression will degrade them to a level that I'm not happy with. For now, the maps are accessible through Google Drive.

Open Sea Adventures (Arianiss's version (January 2024). This map is accurate and complete as of January 2024.) -> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XlZ_FbwSPW_gWCsF6Ryk3VsH7gRxqQiw

Open Sea Adventures (moderate) (Arianiss's version (January 2024). This map is accurate and complete as of January 2024.) -> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1h5-INBO0c9-6_PdDaTT70_2BsHNEDtxe





[[Image:Open Sea Adventures (basic).png | thumb | none | alt=A modified version of the Open Sea Adventures map created by Arianiss | Arianiss's version (January 2024). This map is accurate and complete as of January 2024.]]

== Avery Trent's Map of the Flotilla (June 2023) ==

[[Image:Flotilla.png | thumb | none | alt=A map of the Flotilla by Avery Trent | This map is accurate and complete as of June 2023.]]

== Naamit's Version (July 2021) ==

[[Image:ElanthiaOcean.png | thumb | none | alt=A modified version of the Open Sea Adventures map created by Naamit | Naamit's version (July 2021). This map is accurate but incomplete as of November 2022.]]

== Athias's Version (January 2021) ==

This map is accurate but incomplete as of November 2022.

[https://gswiki.play.net/images/archive/a/ac/20210730191108%21ElanthiaOcean.png Click Here to Open Athias's Version]

== GM Retser's Original Version (November 2020) ==

This map is accurate but incomplete as of November 2022.

[https://gswiki.play.net/images/archive/a/ac/20210122043140%21ElanthiaOcean.png Click Here to Open Retser's Version]

== GM Retser's Original Version (July 2020) ==

This map is inaccurate. Do not use it. Listed for historical posterity.

[https://gswiki.play.net/images/archive/a/ac/20201113191429%21ElanthiaOcean.png Click Here to Open Retser's Version]

[[Category: Maps]]
[[Category: Open Sea Adventures]]

User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET

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WINTERDAWN: /* 5mb File Size Down to 2mb */

== Have a question or comment? ==

HOST-GSKEBECHET (talk | contribs) (Added back in the OTS analyze and rearranged a couple things to conform with item script style guide.)

You added back in the Tier 1 analyze in the OTS section. [[User:GS4ALASTIR|GS4ALASTIR]] ([[User talk:GS4ALASTIR|talk]]) 10:46, 25 April 2023 (CDT)

Hello, I added a line that Stormyrain gave permission to use the image of the Sisters on the wiki [[User:STACYWALTER|STACYWALTER]] ([[User talk:STACYWALTER|talk]]) 06:16, 12 October 2023 (CDT)

You're doing great work. Thank you, I appreciate it. [[User:VANKRASN39|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39|talk]]) 11:42, 7 November 2023 (CST)
:Thank you! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]])

Hi, I got your message about the copywrite problems with my image. I created the image myself using Artflow.ai but I have literally no idea how to comply with your request and I can barely even understand it. I cant find the Discord page you linked to either. Could you please walk me through this step by step? I have almost no skill at coding or using the wiki...I created my page by simple cut and paste and rewriting.

Thank you,
Toxyrox

PS if it would be easier on Discord, my username there is Avondell.
:Thank you very much! I have responded on your talk page.[[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:37, 15 November 2023 (CST)

== Cross-posts of user:talk notes ==

=== Animalistic Spirit Shield iteminfo ===

[[User_talk:GS4ALASTIR]]: Hi, Alastir. Thank you very much for contributing so many different things to the various item script pages! Just as a head's up, I rolled back one of your changes made a while ago to the [[Animalistic_Spirit_Shield|Animalistic Spirit Shield]] page, where you had accidentally removed the iteminfo section. I have added back in the iteminfo section so that it properly displays; it's actually an important template to keep in place for scripted items as it helps populate other categories on the wiki, making it easier to cross-reference related things. Thanks for understanding! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:55, 21 June 2022 (CDT)

=== Category: Marked for Deletion ===

[[User talk:WINTERDAWN]]: Thank you for all of the contributions you've made toward archiving all of the Elanthian Journals! Just as a reminder, please use <nowiki>[[Category:Marked for Deletion]]</nowiki> on a page when you would like it deleted. I went ahead and deleted the Journal pages you had cleared and replaced with the text, "Things to be deleted by Simu Admin." because your intent appeared to be very clear, however using the Category instead would make it easier for any mods to see those pages as part of weekly patrols for page deletion requests. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:39, 7 July 2022 (CDT)
:Shoot. I was doing {{category... sorry about that! Also, sorry about the extra set of deletes that I created. I hope it wasn't too time consuming :| [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 13:01, 7 July 2022 (CDT)
::That's okay! It wasn't too time consuming. I just wanted to remind you about it for the future. Thank you again for all of your contributions![[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:37, 8 July 2022 (CDT)

=== Requesting Clarification ===

[[User_talk:FIREPHOENIX]]: Thank you for all of your contributions to preserving the-ever expanding game lore! I have a question regarding your recent edit to [[Ithzir_language_(essay)]]. Do you have the original author's permission to upload "Part 5" to the essay? I did not see you noting that anywhere on the essay's talk page ([[Talk:Ithzir_language_(essay)]]). When uploading someone else's work to the wiki on their behalf, it is important to note that on an individual creative work's talk page so that we have a clear understanding that permission was given by them. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:34, 14 July 2022 (CDT)

:I can confirm with Dergoaten shortly since he's an active player, unsure how to post approval, but it's been confirmed and directed towards https://gswiki.play.net/Ithzir_Genesis for the most current details [[User:FIREPHOENIX|FIREPHOENIX]] ([[User talk:FIREPHOENIX|talk]]) 23:26, 15 July 2022 (CDT)

:Dergoatean — Today at 11:16 PM
:Hi, you absolutely have my permission

::Thank you very much! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:36, 20 July 2022 (CDT)

=== Moving Saved Posts ===

[[User_talk:FIREPHOENIX]]: I just wanted to give you a head's up that I am moving and consolidating some saved posts on the wiki that don't meet the current [[Help:Style/Formatting_special_articles#Saved_posts|Style Guide standards]] for saved posts. Most of them are being moved to the "/saved posts" subpage of relevant questlines, and I am updating any broken links made as a result of these moves. I didn't want to worry you with the sudden rearranging of data and related page deletion since they include a few of the saved posts that you have archived with your ongoing efforts to preserve game history. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 11:40, 21 July 2022 (CDT)

=== Wood Rarity Template Links ===

[[User talk:WINTERDAWN]]: Hi, WINTERDAWN. I just wanted to give you a head's up on why I reverted your changes to [[Template:Wood_Rarity_and_Use]] to remove the redlined links added. The additional links were all to existing real world trees that are not unique to Elanthia. While it is certainly fine for someone to eventually make pages for individual trees and add those links back in to the template, none of the trees with redlined links had anything unique to them in an Elanthian setting apart from their real world equivalents. Hopefully that helps clarify! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:43, 26 July 2022 (CDT)

=== Merchant NPC Pages ===

[[User_talk:ECHEAUX]]: Hi, ECHEAUX. Thank you for your many contributions to the wiki! Getting a lot of the information related to the ongoing Ebon Gate festival out there while it is still running is a big help to other players. Just as a head's up, I have reverted some of the updates you made to various merchant NPC pages. These are largely restricted to where historical information was removed, such as festival venues or various towns where the merchants have worked. I wanted to drop you a note to explain why those changes were reverted so that you weren't surprised by them.

I also have a question regarding the recent updates that you made to [[Template:Merchants]] and related updates to various merchant NPC pages. Looking at the template, it seems like the "venue" section is now much more restricted than before, limited to only a very small list of festivals instead of being more free form as it was in the past. Is that intended or just an oversight? We have so many different festival venues that limiting which ones the template could be used for seems counterproductive, especially if it means that historical information is not preserved. It also looks like you have added a "town" as a new section, which can only have one entry. Is "town" intended to be the merchant's home town? Or is it intended to be the town they most often work in among the various towns they frequent? Thank you for any insight you can offer. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:56, 26 October 2022 (CDT)

=== Works in Progress ===
[[User_talk:ECHEAUX]]: Hi there, ECHEAUX. I am slowly working through patrols of item script page updates, which I know you focused heavily on late last year. It looks like on several of them, mostly ones from October and November, you included the work-in-progress template to indicate you are still working on the pages, however many of them do not appear to have any recent updates in the past month+. While I don't believe these are all of them, they include [[AYRWT?]], [[Flask belt]], [[Ritualistic tool]], and a few others that look like they were from last year's Ebon Gate festival. Are you still actively working on some of these pages? If not, I'll remove the WIP template as I do the patrols to let other users know they are open for editing again. Thanks again for everything you do to help add to the wiki! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:29, 10 January 2023 (CST)
:I have responded to your question on my [[User_talk:ECHEAUX#Works_in_Progress|discussion page]].[[User:ECHEAUX|ECHEAUX]] ([[User talk:ECHEAUX|talk]]) 10:59, 10 January 2023 (CST)
::I have responded to your response :) [[User:ECHEAUX|ECHEAUX]] ([[User talk:ECHEAUX|talk]]) 11:57, 10 January 2023 (CST)

=== Page Moves ===
[[User talk:ECHEAUX]]: Hi, ECHEAUX. I noticed that when you set up the item script page for the [[Grooming locket]], you did so by moving one of your test/sandbox pages with a substantial edit history to the current page. In doing so, that also had the the effect of moving the entire page history for your test page, which included a large number of edits stemming from when you were testing out formatting for other item scripts unrelated to the Grooming locket. While the wiki team is very glad that you're using your test/sandbox pages to try out new things, the best practice in this instance would be to just cut and paste the source code from your test page into a newly created item page instead of moving it from your sandbox if there are unrelated edits in the test page's history. I know that you're very well versed in wiki use at this point, but if you'd like, I can help with that process for the Grooming locket page. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:49, 7 February 2023 (CST)
:Responded [[User:ECHEAUX|ECHEAUX]] ([[User talk:ECHEAUX|talk]]) 12:32, 7 February 2023 (CST)

===Talk Pages vs Articles===

[[User talk:WINTERDAWN]]: Hi, WINTERDAWN. I am reaching out to you because I am reverting back the edits on [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]] to include the full text of the letter instead of omitting portions of it. Could you help me understand why you removed portions of the letter? I understand that you also put the log of the letter being read aloud in game on the page's Talk page. However, the purpose of a Talk page is to provide notes about the main article, such as indicating permission to share something on behalf of another person, sharing incomplete research information, or asking a question/seeking clarification about the text of an article. Talk pages are not intended to be used as supplementary articles, nor should articles omit relevant information for the sake of sharing it on a Talk page. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:42, 8 February 2023 (CST)

:So there are two separate authors here: myself and WBURKE.

:When I first came across the letter as relayed by Cordarius, in user LEAFIARA's log, I thought, "this is very useful information that should probably be more accessible than in the middle of a log." However, it was late, and I was not necessarily wanting to embark on a lengthy project at the time, and so I literally just copy/pasted it into a separate wiki page (the awkwardly named one I marked for deletion).

:Soon after this, user WBURKE created a page to document the information relayed by that letter. The desire of my page was "here's the log so it's easier to find, maybe it'll be made nicer one day." The desire of their page was to focus on the specific points of interest in that letter. My focus was "here's the letter in full" while their focus was "here's the bullet points with regards to the Empire and Wehnimer's Landing." What they created is what I wanted the log to eventually turn into.

:I still felt it useful to have the log around, though, and so dumped it on the discussion page as I don't know where else to put it.

:As an aside, based on how this wiki is used, both in the past and currently, I feel that the discussion page is a fine spot for these types of things. On other wikis yes, you can have very lengthy conversations about the topics you listed, but that just doesn't really happen here on this one.

:Based on those guidelines we would need to move this content: [[Talk:Sanctify (330)]] and [[Talk:Introduction to the Confluence#The Mentor Event Itself]]. I feel that these bits, that are relevant to their pages, would detract from the pages themselves if added. The Sanctify content would just muddy the page and the Confluence content has no relevance on the guide itself. The Sanctify content would be easy enough to break out into it's own guide I guess, and I guess the Confluence content could just be added to my user page or something. /shrug

:Anyways, just my thoughts. At the end of the day you're the boss on this stuff so I acquiesce to what you feel is best :)

:[[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 16:58, 8 February 2023 (CST)

::Hi, WINTERDAWN. I am not ignoring your query; I am waiting on a response from the larger wiki team about how to approach this specific scenario. Generally speaking, any article's Talk page is not an appropriate venue for archiving important information. If the information is completed research, elaboration on topics contained within an article, or relevant log excerpts, that information should be on a main wiki article, not on a Talk page. Depending on what that information consists of, it could either be on the primary article itself or on a different article that is explicitly created to delve into a more complex concept.
::In the case of [[Talk:Sanctify (330)]], the information presented on it would be best in a main article and not on a Talk page; looking at the content, it does seem appropriate for a 330 guide article, as you pointed out (see [[Help:Style#User pages]]). In the case of [[Talk:Introduction to the Confluence]], this appears to be a log excerpt and would be appropriate for a page that is set up as an event log - in the format of "YYYY-MM-DD - Log Title (log)" (as per [[Help:Style/Formatting special articles#Logs]]). However, as the main page itself appears to be set up as a guide, which appears to be drawn from the log itself (or vice versa), it should adhere to the standards of creating a guide. My general recommendation would be to preserve an entire log, including the introduction that is currently on the Talk page as well as any followup questions to the presentation, as a log article and then maintain the existing article as a guide with the information presented as is. That said, because the log excerpt that was retained on the Talk page does not appear to contain information vital to the article itself or further elaboration on the information presented in it, I also don't see an issue with keeping it as is for this specific case.
::In the case of [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]], which led to this conversation, given the nature of this specific article as well as the duplicate information between it and the article [[Protectorate]], I am waiting on confirmation on how best to handle it before taking any further action. Unless another mod or GM weighs in before me, it will likely not be until next week that I can relay the final determination. I appreciate your patience and understanding with this. While the GS wiki does not get anywhere near as much traffic or use as Wikipedia, that does not mean that the GS wiki does not have its standards for how pages, including Talk pages, should be used. Those standards are also continually evolving as more content is added, and what may have been considered fine two years ago may have have updated standards today. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:40, 9 February 2023 (CST)
:::Hello again, WINTERDAWN. After consulting with the wiki team, I have adjusted [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]] to show the previous version of the text instead of the log. I have transcluded the identically presented information from [[Protectorate]] onto [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]]. I have updated text on the page to link to the log excerpt on [[Protectorate]] instead of referencing the article's talk page. I have also updated the article's Talk page to remove the previously saved log excerpt, to clarify what its purpose is, and to direct anyone viewing it to [[Protectorate#5123]], which is where the complete log excerpt is located. Again, to reiterate, the purpose of Talk pages is to facilitate discussion about an article, such as questions about an article, incomplete research, or citing when permission was granted to post on behalf of another person. They are not intended to serve as articles themselves. Logs and completed research should be either incorporated into the main article or in a supplementary article. Hopefully this helps clear up any confusion for you. Thank you again for your patience as I worked to resolve this. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:13, 14 February 2023 (CST)

::::Alright, thank you for this information and checking into things :) I'll work on the two pages I mentioned (and any others I come across later) as soon as I can. [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 05:18, 15 February 2023 (CST)

===Third Party Software===
[[User talk:GS4ALASTIR]]: Hi, GS4ALASTIR. I have followed up with the wiki team on a few recent edits that you made related to third-party software documentation on the wiki. Specifically, I am referring to the subpages you created associated with both [[Script Bigshot]] documentation and the main [[Script Eloot]] article. The wiki policy for documenting Lich software is viewable on [[Help:Style#Lich_information]]. You will need to get staff approval before creating any new Lich script pages or subpages by contacting the [mailto:gs4-wiki@play.net GSWiki email address]. (It is perfectly fine to continue to make edits to existing Lich script pages or subpages.) I will be taking the following steps:
* I am reverting the recent edits that you made to the [[Script Bigshot]] page to restore the information that was removed from it and moved onto the different subpages. Those subpages are:
** [[Script Bigshot/Profile tab]]
** [[Script Bigshot/Resting tab]]
** [[Script Bigshot/Hunting tab]]
** [[Script Bigshot/Attacking tab]]
** [[Script Bigshot/Commands tab]]
** [[Script Bigshot/Monitoring tab]]
** [[Script Bigshot/Misc tab]]
* I am adding a template on each of the Script Bigshot subpages noting that they are marked for deletion.
* I will be deleting each of the Script Bigshot subpages a week from today.
* I am adding a template onto the [[Script Eloot]] page noting that it is marked for deletion.
* I will be deleting [[Script Eloot]] a week from today.
* I am reverting the recent edits that you made to [[:Template:Third-Party Software]], which added a link and reference to the Script Eloot page.
Some of the information that you put onto the Script Bigshot subpages appears to be updated from how it was originally presented on the main article. I want to make sure that you have the opportunity to save or move that back on to the main approved script article before the subpages are permanently deleted. I also want to make sure that you have the same opportunity to save the information you wrote for the Script Eloot page. If you have any questions, please let me or another mod know, either via talk page or by asking on the official Discord server. Thanks for understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:27, 21 March 2023 (CDT)

===Character Vignettes===
[[User talk:LORDROELET]]: Hi there, LORDROELET. I wanted to let you know why I moved your [[Roelon (prime)/Vignette: Plea to the Wsalamir|Plea to the Wsalamir vignette]] back to where you had originally placed it on the wiki. The [[Help:Storyline guidelines#Character Vignettes|storyline guidelines]] were recently updated to address how character vignettes should be posted to the wiki, largely because most character vignettes were shared in response to storylines. Moving forward, their articles should be set up in the format of:
:<code><nowiki>Character name (instance)/Vignette name</nowiki></code>
In addition, they should not use the [[:Template:Creative-work#Character Vignettes|creative-work]] template as character vignettes are considered a form of "off screen roleplay" instead of a creative work like a poem or short story being told by a character. Thank you for sharing your character's vignettes on the wiki. If you have any questions, the best place to ask is on the Official GS Wiki discussion thread in the Discord forum's Help section. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:54, 5 April 2023 (CDT)

===Third Party Software and Scripts===
[[User talk:RINUALDO]]: Hi there, RINUALDO. I have followed up with the wiki team on some new articles you made associated with Lich script documentation. Specifically, I am referring to [[Script foreach]] and [[Script invdb]], which were made last week, plus [[Script Ebounty]], which was made late last year. The wiki policy for documenting Lich software is viewable on [[Help:Style#Lich_information]]. I have confirmed with the wiki team that permission was not given in advance of these articles being created. You will need to get staff approval before creating any new Lich script articles or subarticles by contacting the [mailto:gs4-wiki@play.net GSWiki email address]. (It is perfectly fine to continue to make edits to existing Lich script articles or subarticles.) I am taking the following steps:
* I am adding a template on all three pages noting that they are marked for deletion:
** [[Script foreach]]
** [[Script invdb]]
** [[Script Ebounty]]
* I will delete all three pages one week from today.
I understand that you are active in helping maintain the existing approved third party software articles so that they are accurate and easy to understand for the community. I want to make sure that you have the opportunity to save the information you wrote for the above three articles should they be approved for creation again at a later date. If you have any questions, please let me or another mod know, either via talk page or by asking on the official Discord server. Thank you for understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:03, 18 April 2023 (CDT)
:Putting stuff on talk pages with no way for a user to know that something exists unless they go to the wiki daily is a terrible, terrible way to communicate about deleting something with a timer.
:Can you please clarify "I have confirmed with the wiki team that permission was not given in advance of these articles being created" who you clarified this with?
::Hello again, RINUALDO. I am following up on your question from yesterday about the three articles you created for lich scripts. I did alert the wiki team of your message to me when you added it, and I am aware that staff were able to talk with you on Discord afterward and confirm that you did indeed have prior authorization for the invdb and foreach script articles.
::I would like to apologize on behalf of the wiki team for incorrectly flagging the [[Script foreach]] and [[Script invdb]] articles as not authorized. I am reverting my edits to both of those articles where I had added the delete template, and I am also putting a note on their respective Discussion tabs so that there is no confusion in the future. Unfortunately, the [[Script Ebounty]] article was not approved in advance of it being created, so I do need to delete it when the seven day window has concluded. Thank you for your patience and understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:37, 20 April 2023 (CDT)

The ebounty page was intended in the prior approval that was released. It was referenced in the email request, which I could have been more specific. As this has gone to Feedback, please do not delete anything until the issue is resolved.
:Hi, RINUALDO. I have relayed your message to me on my talk page to the wiki team . Also, just as an FYI if it is helpful, if you want to add on your user name and a timestamp of an edit to the end of the message, it is possible to do so with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:46, 25 April 2023 (CDT)
::Hi again, RINUALDO. I wanted to update you on the three articles I previously reached out to you about. I have removed the delete template and renamed the article for [[Lich:Script Ebounty]] to conform with the updated guidelines for Lich scripts on the wiki. I have also moved both [[Lich:Script invdb]] and [[Lich:Script foreach]] for the same reason. All three articles will need the forthcoming lich header template added to them once the template has been finalized. Thank you for your patience and understanding as the wiki guidelines continue to evolve. I appreciate your continued efforts to add documentation to the wiki to help other players better enjoy the game. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:23, 23 May 2023 (CDT)

===Thaumaturge Tome Script===
[[User talk:ALLENM20]]: Hello, ALLENM20. I am following up with you on behalf of the wiki team. I know that MOD-GSMOTTE already reached out to you about the [[Lich:Thaumaturge Tome Script]] article that you previously wrote. In light of the updates to the wiki standards for lich script pages, the script article is now permitted on the wiki. I have moved the article so that its title properly conforms with these new standards (which adds Lich: at the start of the article title). The article will need to be updated with the forthcoming lich script template as soon as it is released. Thank you for your patience and understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:18, 30 May 2023 (CDT)

===Character Vignettes===
[[User talk:HALEM20]]: Hi again, HALEM20. Thank you for doing so many updates to help record events in the recent and ongoing Platinum storylines. I noticed that you recently added two character vignettes related to the [[:Category:What Lurks in the Dark|What Lurks in the Dark]] storyline that do not appear to be linked to your account based on prior edits to their respective character pages. If you are uploading vignettes on behalf of another player, you will need to very clearly state that on the Discussion tab for each page. The two vignettes are [[Jaired (platinum)/Loose Ends]] and [[Oliviero (platinum)/Interruption]]. To add that information, you will just need to click on the Discussion tab at the top of each article and note that you have permission to upload them. I recommend adding <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> to the end of it to make sure that you have a clear account/date/timestamp applied afterward. Thank you for understanding! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:17, 19 June 2023 (CDT)
:Hello, HALEM20. I previously reached out to you about two character vignettes related to the [[:Category:What Lurks in the Dark|What Lurks in the Dark]] storyline that you added to the wiki for characters that did not appear to be yours, based on prior edits to their respective character pages. I see that Oliviero's player did confirm that permission was given to upload [[Oliviero (platinum)/Interruption]] to the wiki, however there is still no indication that Jaired's player gave permission to upload [[Jaired (platinum)/Loose Ends]]. GSwiki has recently updated its copyright policy with regard to posting works created by another person. I have flagged the "Interruption" vignette for not being in compliance with the updated [[Gswiki:Policy]] for [[GSwiki:Policy#Copyrights|Copyrights]] on works created by someone other than the uploader. A statement that the vignette was uploaded with permission by the author must be added to the vignette's [[Talk:Jaired (platinum)/Loose Ends|Discussion tab]]. '''If that is not added within 7 days, it will be deleted from the wiki.''' If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for copyrights on articles, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926|Discord forum's wiki thread]. Thank you for your understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:34, 13 July 2023 (CDT)

=== Blanked Article===
[[User talk:PAELA]]: Hi there, PAELA. I noticed that you created two articles for your vignette, "Disturbing News", and then went back and deleted all of the text on the duplicate article. The one that still has text is [[Agathilea (prime)/Disturbing News]] while the one that has had all text removed is [[Agathilea (prime)/Disturbing News/Disturbing News]]. Did you remove all the text because you wanted the second article to be deleted? Putting <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki> on an article is the best way to let a wiki Mod know that the page was created in error and should be deleted from the wiki instead of just removing all of the text on it. If that is what you would like to be done, please add the delete template to the article so another mod or I can remove it for you. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:14, 9 August 2023 (CDT)

===Recent Edits===
[[User talk:LUXELLE]]: Hi there, LUXELLE. I'd like to thank you for your many contributions to the wiki, especially for your guides to help other players better enjoy the various festivals and events in game. I know that you frequently collaborate with other players to write some of your guides. Another user recently made some edits to one of your guides, [[Duskruin primer]], that I was not sure were intended by you or your team. They do not appear to be malicious in nature, however I did want to reach out to you about if they were intended to be part of the article. The edits are a new section at the end of the article, [[Duskruin primer#All the big credit givings|All the big credit givings]]. If these edits were not intended by you or your team, either you can delete them or you can let me know and another mod or I would be happy to delete them for you. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:26, 16 August 2023 (CDT)

===Images and Article Edits at Risk for Deletion===
[[User talk:CELLORA]]: Hi there, CELLORA. In reviewing some recent updates to the wiki, I saw that you have made quite a few edits to [[Sorlu (prime)]], which appears to be a character page for someone else's character. There is no indication anywhere that Sorlu's player gave you permission to create or edit a character page on their behalf. [[Gswiki:Policy]] prohibits users from editing character pages unless the character is theirs or they have been given permission by that character's player to make those edits. If you do have permission to edit Sorlu's character page, you will need to indicate this by clearly stating it on its Discussion/Talk tab, [[Talk:Sorlu (prime)]], that you have been given permission to do so by his player. Alternatively, Sorlu's player can put that information on the discussion page. When adding that information, please make sure to add <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end of your comments, which will automatically add a "signature" with your user name, plus the date and time of when your edit was made.

In addition, there are a couple of images that I have flagged, all of which appear related to the same character article. I think I understand what is going on with the images but would appreciate some clarification from you if my understanding is correct.
* [[:File:Nalfein Crest.png]] - This image appears to be a duplicate of [[:File:A Nalfein Crest.png]]. It is not used on any articles. An earlier edit by you to the file noted you as being the creator.
* [[:File:A Nalfein Crest.png]] - This image appears on [[Sorlu (prime)]]. This image notes Sorlu as being the creator, as does the caption you added to Sorlu's character page.
Can you confirm who created the image? It appears that Sorlu's player created it, you erroneously placed your name on "Nalfein Crest" then removed it, then reuploaded the image crediting Sorlu. Is that accurate? If so, I will delete the first duplicate file as it is not used anywhere.
* [[:File:Nalfein Crest 3.png]] - This image appears to be a duplicate of [[:File:Rotting Nalfein Cret.png]]. It is not used on any articles. This image notes you as being the creator, not Sorlu's player.
* [[:File:Rotting Nalfein Cret.png]] This image appears on [[Sorlu (prime)]]. This image notes Sorlu as being the creator, as does the caption you added to Sorlu's character page.
Can you confirm who created the image? It appears that this is a similar situation as the above two images, where you first listed yourself as the creator then re-uploaded the image listing Sorlu as the creator. If that is the case, I will delete the first duplicate file as it is not used anywhere.

In all cases, '''If that information is not added within 7 days, your edits to the character page and the impacted images will be deleted from the wiki.''' Thank you very much for clearly taking steps to fully credit images, not just who created them but also if permission was granted to upload them. That is a big help for moderators like me as we review edits to the wiki. If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for editing character pages, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926%7CDiscord forum's wiki thread]. Thank you for understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 11:02, 29 August 2023 (CDT)

Hello! Yes, I made a mistake on the images and couldn't figure out how to fix it without uploading new ones. If you could please delete the first ones, that would be great! He created them. I'm still figuring out the flagging and all of that for the wiki. I will add a note on the page that he gave me permission to create the page as well. [[User:CELLORA|CELLORA]] ([[User talk:CELLORA|talk]]) 12:59, 29 August 2023 (CDT)

===Article/Edits at Risk for Deletion===
[[User talk:DASLOONIX]]: Hi again, DASLOONIX. In reviewing some recent updates to the wiki, I saw that you have made quite a few edits to [[Sorlu (prime)]], which appears to be a character page for someone else's character. There is no indication anywhere that Sorlu's player gave you permission to create or edit a character page on their behalf. [[Gswiki:Policy]] prohibits users from editing character pages unless the character is theirs or they have been given permission by that character's player to make those edits. If you do have permission to edit Sorlu's character page, you will need to indicate this by clearly stating it on its Discussion/Talk tab, [[Talk:Sorlu (prime)]], that you have been given permission to do so by his player. Alternatively, Sorlu's player can put that information on the discussion page. When adding that information, please make sure to add <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end of your comments, which will automatically add a "signature" with your user name, plus the date and time of when your edit was made. '''If that information is not added within 7 days, your edits to that article will be deleted from the wiki.''' If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for editing character pages, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926%7CDiscord forum's wiki thread]. Thank you for understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 11:02, 29 August 2023 (CDT)

===Images and Article Edits at Risk for Deletion===
[[User talk:CHADDEAUX]]: Hello, CHADDEAUX. I am reaching out to you about two things.

First, a few years ago you created and edited a character page article, [[Dirvy (prime)]], which has since then been edited by another user. There is no indication anywhere that Dirvy's player gave you permission to create or edit a character page on their behalf. [[Gswiki:Policy]] prohibits users from creating or editing character pages unless the character is theirs or they have been given permission by that character's player to make those edits. If you do have permission to edit Dirvy's character page, you will need to indicate this by clearly stating it on its Discussion/Talk tab, [[Talk:Dirvy (prime)]], that you have been given permission to do so by her player. Alternatively, Dirvy's player can put that information on the discussion page. When adding that information, please make sure to add <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end of your comments, which will automatically add a "signature" with your user name, plus the date and time of when your edit was made.

Second, you previously uploaded three images to the wiki which are missing some required information. GSwiki now has a new policy for all images uploaded to it. Please see [[Gswiki:Policy#Copyrights]] for more information about that policy and the requirement to note image creators, what AI imaging software was used (if any), and if permission was granted by the creator to upload the image to the wiki.
* [[:File:Dirvy Britbane medium.jpg]] - Thank you for already stating that Stormyrain created this artwork. You will need to add whether Stormyrain also gave you permission to upload the image onto the wiki. This information will need to be noted both on the image file as well as all articles displaying it.
* [[:File:Dirvy by Flimbo.jpg]] - Thank you for already stating that Flimbo created this artwork. You will need to add whether Flimbo also gave you permission to upload the image onto the wiki. This information will need to be noted both on the image file as well as all articles displaying it.
* [[:File:Zailon.png]] - Thank you for already stating that Flimbo created this artwork. You will need to add whether Flimbo also gave you permission to upload the image onto the wiki. This information will need to be noted both on the image file as well as all articles displaying it.
In all cases for the character page and the three images, '''if the required information is not added within 7 days, the edits to the character page and the images will be deleted from the wiki.''' If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for images, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926%7CDiscord forum's wiki thread]. Thank you for understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:50, 17 October 2023 (CDT)

===Images and Article Edits at Risk for Deletion===
[[User talk:TWILSON]]: Hello, TWILSON. I am reaching out to you about two things.

First, you recently edited a character page article, [[Dirvy (prime)]], which was originally created and edited by another user. There is no indication anywhere that Dirvy's player gave you permission to create or edit a character page on their behalf. [[Gswiki:Policy]] prohibits users from creating or editing character pages unless the character is theirs or they have been given permission by that character's player to make those edits. If you do have permission to edit Dirvy's character page, you will need to indicate this by clearly stating it on its Discussion/Talk tab, [[Talk:Dirvy (prime)]], that you have been given permission to do so by her player. Alternatively, Dirvy's player can put that information on the discussion page. When adding that information, please make sure to add <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end of your comments, which will automatically add a "signature" with your user name, plus the date and time of when your edit was made.

Second, you recently uploaded an image to the wiki, [[:File:Dirvy gencraft image.jpg]], which is missing some required information. GSwiki now has a new policy for all images uploaded to it. Please see [[Gswiki:Policy#Copyrights]] for more information about that policy and the requirement to note image creators, what AI imaging software was used (if any), and if permission was granted by the creator to upload the image to the wiki. Images using AI software in their creation are also required to be included in [[:Category:AI artwork]] Thank you for already noting that it was created using AI software. You will need to add who created the image and, if that person is not you, if you had permission to upload it to the wiki. This information will need to be noted both on the image file as well as any articles displaying it.

In all cases for the character page and the image, '''if the required information is not added within 7 days, the edits to the character page and the image will be deleted from the wiki.''' If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for images, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926%7CDiscord forum's wiki thread]. Thank you for understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:49, 17 October 2023 (CDT)

===Blanked article===
[[User talk:GS4ALASTIR]]: Hi there, GS4ALASTIR. I noticed that you created an article for [[Emberthorn Refuge]] with a lot of information on it then shortly afterward went back and removed all of the text. Are you trying to have the article deleted? If so, placing <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki> on an article flags it for mods to review for deletion. Thanks again for your many contributions! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 11:25, 12 September 2023 (CDT)

===Short Story Question===

[[User talk:CHIVERSFREE1]]: Hello, CHIVERSFREE1. The wiki team is currently working on some updates for the style guide as it relates to various types of creative works, including short stories and vignettes. This includes better defining what different creative works are so that they are better reflected with the creative-works template, article titles, etc., to help out both contributors and other players accessing the wiki. I know that you have been working on several lengthy articles, such as [[The Reckoning (short story)]], which might span several categories of creative works. I was hoping that you could share some insight on how you have approached writing articles like it.

You have "The Reckoning" labeled as a short story with the creative-works template. It appears to be a series of glimpses into off-screen/out-of-game roleplay focusing on your character as opposed to a short story written or shared by your character or set within Elanthia in general. Would you feel that is accurate - that it is more a lengthy series of off-screen vignettes as opposed to a formal short story? It also appears that there are sometimes contributions by other authors, such as chapters where Rohese and Mirkk are having a conversation or actively doing things together. Is "The Reckoning" retelling events that have taken place in game in a prose format (as opposed to a log format)? In some ways, it seems like it might almost be a [[Help:Storyline guidelines#Player-Run Storylines|player-run storyline]] focusing on Rohese's personal growth and evolution.

Thank you in advance for any insight you can offer. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:33, 3 October 2023 (CDT)

===Duplicate Logs===
[[User talk:TUMARA]]: Hi there, TUMARA. You recently added two logs that appear to be identical to the wiki. Can you please clarify which one you intended to keep? You can do this by editing the duplicate log that you want deleted and adding <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki> somewhere on that log article. That flags it for a mod to delete. The two logs are:
* [[The Heads Rolled (Battle Log)]]
* [[The Heads Rolled--Battle Log]]
I will update the one you intended to keep with the correct log title once you have identified it. It will end up as titled "Evermore Hollow - 2023-10-23 - The Heads Rolled Battle (log)", per [[Gswiki:Style guide/Formatting special articles#Logs]]. If you do not note which article you prefer to keep within 7 days, then I will delete the newer article and keep the older one. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:35, 31 October 2023 (CDT)

===Uploaded Images and Captions===
[[User talk:PTOLEMY]]: Hello, PTOLEMY. I have updated the image captions for all new images you added to your character page, [[Jaysehn (prime)]]. GSwiki now has a new policy for all images uploaded to it. Please see [[Gswiki:Policy#AI-Generated Artwork]] for more information about that policy and how it pertains to any images created with AI imaging software. AI generated images cannot be noted as copyrighted, and the captions displaying AI generated images must reflect the same information as what you indicated in their file uploads. I have already updated the captions based on information you provided with the uploaded files, however please keep this in mind with any future use of them or other AI-generated images. In addition, I have also already added the required [[:Category:AI artwork]] for all of your recently uploaded images. If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for images, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926%7CDiscord forum's wiki thread]. Thank you for your help with this process. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:08, 7 November 2023 (CST)

===Duplicate Article===
[[User talk:PTOLEMY]]: Hello, PTOLEMY. You recently created two identical articles, [[Paid in Full]] and [[Jaysehn (prime)/Reflections/Paid in Full]]. I suspect that the second is the article you intended to create and the first was made in error, due to the second following the Style Guide's standards for personal vignettes. Can you please confirm which duplicate should be deleted? This can be done by editing the one you wish deleted and putting in the <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki> template anywhere on the article. If I do not hear any response from you in one week, I will mark [[Paid in Full]] with the delete template for mod review and deletion. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:45, 13 December 2023 (CST)

===Images and Article Edits at Risk for Deletion===

[[User talk:PTOLEMY]]:Hi, PTOLEMY. I'm reaching out to you about a couple of things.

First, I'm contacting you about the recent images that you have uploaded to the wiki. The requirements for posting images to the wiki has changed this past year. Please see [[Gswiki:Policy#Copyrights]] for more information about that policy and the requirement to note image creators, what AI imaging software was used (if any), and if permission was granted by the creator to upload the image to the wiki. In addition, all images using AI generating software are required to include <nowiki>[[Category:AI artwork]]</nowiki> on the files themselves. I have edited all but two of the files that you have uploaded to include this, however in the future if this continues to be omitted, I will begin flagging those files for moderater review/deletion. This text should be added as part of the image file description when you upload it, or edited it into the image file description after uploading. The two files I have not edited to include this information are outlined in the next paragraph.

Second, you recently edited a character page, [[Hadya (prime)]], which has been maintained by another user. There is no indication anywhere that Hadya's player gave you permission to edit a character page on their behalf. [[Gswiki:Policy]] prohibits users from creating or editing character pages unless the character is theirs or they have been given permission by that character's player to make those edits. If you do have permission to edit Hadya's character page, you will need to indicate this by clearly stating it on its Discussion tab, [[Talk:Hadya (prime)]], that you have been given permission to do so by her player. Alternatively, Hadya's player can put that information on the discussion tab. When adding that information, please make sure to add <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end of your comments, which will automatically add a "signature" with your user name, plus the date and time of when your edit was made. I am flagging the edits you made to this article as well as the two images you uploaded for it as not following [[Gswiki:Policy]] requiring permission from the character's player. The two impacted images are [[:File:Hadya AI Ptolemy.jpg]] and [[:File:HadyaSummons AI Ptolemy.jpg]]. These two images are also missing the required <nowiki>[[Category:AI artwork]]</nowiki>.

'''If that information is not added within 7 days, these images and article edits will be deleted from the wiki.''' Please do not remove the <nowiki>{{moddelete}}</nowiki> template from the images and article displaying them. Another moderator or I will remove that template after your updates have been reviewed to ensure that they meet [[Gswiki:Policy]] requirements. If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for images, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926 Discord forum's wiki thread]. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:25, 20 December 2023 (CST)

===Duplicate Images===
[[User talk:LYSTRA]]: Hi there, LYSTRA. You recently uploaded two images to the wiki that appear to be duplicates of one another except with slightly different resolutions. The two image files are [[:File:Fyg-kitten.png]] (1024x1024 pixels) and [[:File:Fyg-kitten1.png]] (500x500 pixels). Can you please let me know which of the two you had intended to keep on the wiki and which is the duplicate that should be deleted? I will remove the duplicate image. You can let me or another moderator know by adding <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki> to the image file that was uploaded in error, or you can respond here. If I do not hear back from you in one week, I will flag the image with the lower resolution for mod review and deletion. In addition, all images using AI software in their creation are required to be included in [[:Category:AI artwork]]. To add that text to an image file, you will need to click on "Edit Source" on the image file itself and add <nowiki>[[Category:AI artwork]]</nowiki>. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:01, 20 December 2023 (CST)
:[[:File_talk:Fyg-kitten1.png]]: This image appears to be a lower resolution duplicate of [[:File:Fyg-kitten.png]] and is not used on any articles. It will be deleted in favor of the higher resolution image unless the uploader requests that this image be kept and the higher resolution image be deleted instead. Uploader originally contacted on 12/20/23 regarding the existence of a duplicate image and informed of this next step. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:06, 27 December 2023 (CST)

===Article Edits at Risk for Deletion===
[[User talk:SWEETLITTLEAGONY]]: Hello, SWEETLITTLEAGONY. In reviewing some recent updates to the wiki, I saw that you have made changes to [[Lissaya (prime)]], which appears to be a character page for someone else's character as the article was originally created by a different account. There is no indication anywhere that Lissaya's player gave you permission to edit a character page on their behalf. [[Gswiki:Policy]] prohibits users from editing character pages unless the character is theirs or they have been given permission by that character's player to make those edits. If you do have permission to edit Lissaya's character page, you will need to indicate this by clearly stating it on its Discussion tab, [[Talk:Lissaya (prime)]], that you have been given permission to do so by her player. Alternatively, Lissaya's player can put that information on the discussion page. When adding that information, please make sure to add <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end of your comments, which will automatically add a "signature" with your user name, plus the date and time of when your edit was made. '''If that information is not added within 7 days, your edits to that article will be deleted from the wiki.''' If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for editing character pages, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926 Discord forum's wiki thread]. Thank you for understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:49, 20 December 2023 (CST)

===Edits to Announcements===
[[User talk:CHAPSICKLE2]]: Hi there, CHAPSICKLE2. Your recent edits to [[Announcement: Spell Disabler Review Live!]] were reverted as they violated [[Gswiki:Policy]], which states "Articles may be created or edited freely with the exception of: Announcements, Official Documentation, and Official Vignettes - Created by GameMasters only, handled by GameMasters and Moderators only." This is not an official warning or anything as the edits do appear to have been made in good faith. I have moved a copy of your added comments to the Announcement's Discussion/Talk tab, which can be accessed at [[Talk:Announcement: Spell Disabler Review Live!]]. In the future, please use the Discussion/Talk tab when adding notes related to official staff announcements if there is not a primary non-announcement article for the update discussed. Thank you for understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:21, 16 January 2024 (CST)

===Edits to Character Pages/Subpages===
[[User talk:AFALLACE]]: Hi there, AFALLACE. I'm reaching out to you about recent edits you made to a couple of articles and sub-articles related to [[Jaired (platinum)]] and [[Jaired (platinum)/The Saga of Jaired Delone (short story)]]. There are a couple different accounts that have edited the content of these articles for things other than minor moderation or formatting updates. Only a player or someone to whom they have given permission may update a character's page per [[Gswiki:Policy]]. I do see that you have made nearly all content changes to Jaired's character page since its creation, however they do include substantial edits to the vignette subarticle that was authored by a different account. Can you please clarify where permissions stand for editing these by Jaired's player? I realize this might be a case of having multiple accounts, however there is no way for me to verify this as a moderator. If I don't hear back from you in 7 days, I will flag some of these updates for moderator review. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:15, 17 January 2024 (CST)

===Modified Artwork===
[[User talk:JSEVERNS]]: Hi there, JSEVERNS. Several years ago, you uploaded an image, [[:File:Teras Isle Regional final.jpg]]. Recently, another user modified your image to create [[:File:Teras Isle Discovery of Kragnek Dzu (Oro).png]]. The other user did note that your image was the original source, however there is no note that they have artist permission to make modifications for it. I also was not able to find any remarks on your original image file or its related captions that you have given any sort of blanket permission for modifications by others. Can you please clarify if permission was given? While your image does depict a map, it is considered artwork for the purposes of [[Gswiki:Policy#Copyrights]] and is protected under that section. If I don't hear back from you within 7 days, I will flag the new image for moderator review. You can respond either here or on my user talk page. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 11:15, 17 January 2024 (CST)

[[User talk:JGENGLISH]]: Hi there, JGENGLISH. You recently uploaded an image, [[:File:Teras Isle Discovery of Kragnek Dzu (Oro).png]], which appears to be modified from an image originally created by another artist, [[:File:Teras Isle Regional final.jpg]]. I do see that you included in the caption a note about the original image. Can you please clarify if the original artist gave you permission to modify their image? I don't see that remarked on anywhere in your upload notes/captions. While the image does depict a map, it is considered artwork for the purposes of [[Gswiki:Policy#Copyrights]] and is protected under that section. If I don't hear back from you within 7 days, I will flag the image for moderator review. You can respond either here or on my user talk page. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 11:15, 17 January 2024 (CST)

== Uploaded Image Patrol ==

Moved to [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET/Image patrols]].

== Elanthian Journals ==

By chance are you able to see the old Elanthian Journal pages that were deleted? I just realized.. one thing I never did is check each one to see what linked to them. I just found a page that linked to a Journal :| [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 16:52, 12 August 2022 (CDT)
:Unfortunately, no. Once a page is deleted, it is gone-gone. However, I was able to pull up a list of broken links and adjusted seven pages that appeared to reference the old Elanthian Journal pages. That should hopefully have caught any others that were overlooked! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:45, 16 August 2022 (CDT)
::Thank you for this! Sorry for the extra work. [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 15:44, 16 August 2022 (CDT)
:::Very welcome! Thank you for bringing up the potential of broken links. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:14, 17 August 2022 (CDT)

== Merchants template ==

I cobbled that template together in 2019, as a pet project, when things were a little more relaxed. So many people were "remember that one merchant? Where were they?? What did they look like??", that it felt like a good addition. Anyway, it was a build based on a template someone else had done, as you've likely read. I had planned on continuing work on it, then COVID hit and I turned into a homeschool teacher for two young teenagers.

Venues: the primary reason I changed those venues was because it was putting so many merchants into categories that didn't exist, and may not have been the best one for them to go into ''at the time''. By restricting category to "wandering" and others that already had a category made, it cut down on "red links"; '''wandering''' moved them into a common category and could be changed later. '''Generally speaking''', if they had a mention in their blurb as to what venue they attended, I removed the category that was causing a red link, although any that did not were likely an oversight (the notable exception being Elsia - I forgot to research her item, '''Fancy Coats''', so I could add the venue).

Towns: it was my intention to adapt the template to allow them to be placed into the category '''for that town'''. An example would be citizen-only merchants such as Duvernith or Davro. I admittedly got wrapped up in EG item-adding and had not gotten back to fixing the "town" venue to populate into town pages instead of '''Town''' NPCs, a category that doesn't exist, so I just left town uncategorized for the time being.

Many of those merchants I added myself with no real idea of what venues they had visited, in that hopes of at least having an appearance and a basic blurb to be expanded upon later. I had intended to continue with the work after EG and add category pages where appropriate. That section of the template might get pretty long for particularly industrious merchants! '''Wandering''' seemed like a good fit if they didn't have what might be considered a "primary festival" (for example, I wouldn't be surprised to see Elusionari in a lot of places!).

That said, I get that once you add a template, you basically lose any claim to it being "yours". However, no one else really took an interest in it, and I was told it would need work anyway, so I figured I was all right to try to adapt it to '''not''' use non-existent categories for the time being, since many (most?) of them had venue linked in the blurb or the body of the article. (TL:DR yet? LOL)[[User:ECHEAUX|ECHEAUX]] ([[User talk:ECHEAUX|talk]]) 12:09, 26 October 2022 (CDT)

== Table updates ==

Hello! As I'm sure you've noticed, I've been going through and updating older items to the newer templates. A lot of them are simple, but some of them require more time; much more time in some cases. For those, fortunately, a lot them are more or less copy and paste for the verb lists with a few minor tweaks. I noticed that on a couple of them you've gone back and added in formatting for data tables for accessibility purposes. I read up on that today and I'll be sure to add that going forward, but I was wondering: Is there a way you are finding those that need it or are you just kind of seeing them as I'm doing them? I'd be more than happy to go back correct the formatting on those, but if there's a way I can find them more "wholesale" than "piecemeal", that would make the job easier. [[User:ECHEAUX|ECHEAUX]] ([[User talk:ECHEAUX|talk]]) 17:40, 9 November 2022 (CST)
:Hi there! Part of my duties as one of our wiki mods are to review recent page changes to ensure that they are appropriate to the wiki, are accurate, are appropriately named as a page or subpage, and that they generally comply with the wiki style guide. So you'll see me doing things like updating pages to use new template standards, moving pages that aren't named properly, fixing redirects or broken links, updating categories, reviewing pages listed in [[:Category:Marked for Deletion]], and similar "moderator" type duties focused on overall wiki consistency that are not expected of general users who instead are adding new content to the wiki. One of the standards set out by the style guide and the wiki team is to ensure that the wiki is as accessible as possible to everyone, including our users who rely on a screen reader. If I run across any pages during my patrols that don't meet current standards, including tables that are not set up in a way for screen readers to properly capture, part of my job as a moderator is to update them accordingly. Since you have been incredibly active on the wiki over the past couple of months, I am much more likely to review your edits than other users due to sheer volume; that's why it might look like I'm going back to change pages you've touched more so than other users. Thanks for inquiring! If you'd like to know more about our moderator team or what our role is, I encourage you to ask on the Gemstone Discord's #wiki-talk channel where one of the GMs overseeing the wiki can chime in. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:11, 10 November 2022 (CST)
::Oh, I understand that. I just wasn't sure if there was an easy way to see pages with certain errors so I could fix those that I missed them on. I can go through my contribution list and do it, though. Thanks for getting back to me![[User:ECHEAUX|ECHEAUX]] ([[User talk:ECHEAUX|talk]]) 10:34, 10 November 2022 (CST)

== Northern Sentinel's Decree==

Hello! My intention with this page was to list only the legal characteristics of the Landing's protectorate status. I deliberately did not want to include the preamble and ending of the letter, as they did not carry legal weight. As such, I would like to revert it to a version which contains only those legal characteristics. In my view, a log page or official document page would be more appropriate for recording the entire letter. [[User:WBURKE1|WBURKE1]] ([[User talk:WBURKE1|talk]])
:Hi, WBURKE1. Thanks for reaching out to me! I am not ignoring your query; I am waiting on a response from the larger wiki team about how to approach this specific scenario with the article [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]]. As I explained to WINTERDAWN, generally speaking an article's Talk page is not an appropriate venue for archiving important information. Given the nature of this specific article as well as the duplicate information between it and the article [[Protectorate]], I am waiting on confirmation on how best to handle it before taking any further action. Unless another mod or GM weighs in before me, it will likely not be until next week that I can relay the final determination. I appreciate your patience and understanding with this. Thank you again for all of your contributions to the wiki. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:40, 9 February 2023 (CST)
::Hello again, WBURKE1. After consulting with the wiki team, I have adjusted [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]] to show the previous version of the text instead of the log. I have transcluded the identically presented information from [[Protectorate]] onto [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]]. I have updated text on the page to link to the log excerpt on [[Protectorate]] instead of referencing the article's talk page. I have also updated the article's Talk page to remove the previously saved log excerpt, to clarify what its purpose is, and to direct anyone viewing it to [[Protectorate#5123]], which is where the complete log excerpt is located. This should help ensure that the intent behind the original page, which is to succinctly state the terms of the Landing's Protectorate status, is maintained while still preserving information. Thank you again for your patience as I worked to resolve this. Please let me know if you have any further questions or concerns. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:13, 14 February 2023 (CST)
:::Thanks for this resolution and for all your hard work! [[User:WBURKE1|WBURKE1]] ([[User talk:WBURKE1|talk]]) 12:39, 14 February 2023 (CST)

== Images ==

They're different images, please look more closely.

== I don't know what I'm doing! ==

Hi, I tried to DM, failed! But found.. this space. And I have no idea if I'm doing it correctly. I READ WHAT YOU WROTE and thank you for what was pointed out I will work on figuring out how to fix it, it just might not be instantly remedied (not too long, just not a finger-snap of time, I'm still figuring stuff out!) -DASLOONIX

== 5mb File Size Down to 2mb ==

I'm noticing that the wiki now has a 2mb file size limit when it used to be 5mb. Is this an unintended result of the recent update or is it intentional? I'm trying to update my OSA maps but the 2mb limit is going to cause a huge loss in quality on them. Thoughts? If it's intentional, perhaps you or an admin could override the setting and post the two maps for me? [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 19:56, 7 January 2024 (CST)
:I do not know about any details related to maximum file size changes. I have relayed your question to the wiki team and will respond on your user talk page when I have more information. While you are welcome to reach out to me (or other mods) with questions like this, you can also ask them on the [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926 Discord forum's wiki thread], where you may receive a faster response. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:08, 9 January 2024 (CST)
::Just checking in :) [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 23:41, 15 January 2024 (CST)
:::Hi, again! I did inquire but still have no update. The wiki team is relaying your question to onside/IT alongside several other extensions and related requests. As a result, this will take much more time to answer than most questions due to it being outside the scope of what the wiki team can address. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:01, 16 January 2024 (CST)
::::Okay, thank you! In the meantime, is this something you or an admin have the power to override for the 2 map files? [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 18:28, 16 January 2024 (CST)
:::::No, this is outside the purview of what the wiki team is able to do. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:27, 17 January 2024 (CST)
::::::Okay, thank you! [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 21:24, 18 January 2024 (CST)

User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET

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WINTERDAWN: /* 5mb File Size Down to 2mb */

== Have a question or comment? ==

HOST-GSKEBECHET (talk | contribs) (Added back in the OTS analyze and rearranged a couple things to conform with item script style guide.)

You added back in the Tier 1 analyze in the OTS section. [[User:GS4ALASTIR|GS4ALASTIR]] ([[User talk:GS4ALASTIR|talk]]) 10:46, 25 April 2023 (CDT)

Hello, I added a line that Stormyrain gave permission to use the image of the Sisters on the wiki [[User:STACYWALTER|STACYWALTER]] ([[User talk:STACYWALTER|talk]]) 06:16, 12 October 2023 (CDT)

You're doing great work. Thank you, I appreciate it. [[User:VANKRASN39|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39|talk]]) 11:42, 7 November 2023 (CST)
:Thank you! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]])

Hi, I got your message about the copywrite problems with my image. I created the image myself using Artflow.ai but I have literally no idea how to comply with your request and I can barely even understand it. I cant find the Discord page you linked to either. Could you please walk me through this step by step? I have almost no skill at coding or using the wiki...I created my page by simple cut and paste and rewriting.

Thank you,
Toxyrox

PS if it would be easier on Discord, my username there is Avondell.
:Thank you very much! I have responded on your talk page.[[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:37, 15 November 2023 (CST)

== Cross-posts of user:talk notes ==

=== Animalistic Spirit Shield iteminfo ===

[[User_talk:GS4ALASTIR]]: Hi, Alastir. Thank you very much for contributing so many different things to the various item script pages! Just as a head's up, I rolled back one of your changes made a while ago to the [[Animalistic_Spirit_Shield|Animalistic Spirit Shield]] page, where you had accidentally removed the iteminfo section. I have added back in the iteminfo section so that it properly displays; it's actually an important template to keep in place for scripted items as it helps populate other categories on the wiki, making it easier to cross-reference related things. Thanks for understanding! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:55, 21 June 2022 (CDT)

=== Category: Marked for Deletion ===

[[User talk:WINTERDAWN]]: Thank you for all of the contributions you've made toward archiving all of the Elanthian Journals! Just as a reminder, please use <nowiki>[[Category:Marked for Deletion]]</nowiki> on a page when you would like it deleted. I went ahead and deleted the Journal pages you had cleared and replaced with the text, "Things to be deleted by Simu Admin." because your intent appeared to be very clear, however using the Category instead would make it easier for any mods to see those pages as part of weekly patrols for page deletion requests. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:39, 7 July 2022 (CDT)
:Shoot. I was doing {{category... sorry about that! Also, sorry about the extra set of deletes that I created. I hope it wasn't too time consuming :| [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 13:01, 7 July 2022 (CDT)
::That's okay! It wasn't too time consuming. I just wanted to remind you about it for the future. Thank you again for all of your contributions![[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:37, 8 July 2022 (CDT)

=== Requesting Clarification ===

[[User_talk:FIREPHOENIX]]: Thank you for all of your contributions to preserving the-ever expanding game lore! I have a question regarding your recent edit to [[Ithzir_language_(essay)]]. Do you have the original author's permission to upload "Part 5" to the essay? I did not see you noting that anywhere on the essay's talk page ([[Talk:Ithzir_language_(essay)]]). When uploading someone else's work to the wiki on their behalf, it is important to note that on an individual creative work's talk page so that we have a clear understanding that permission was given by them. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:34, 14 July 2022 (CDT)

:I can confirm with Dergoaten shortly since he's an active player, unsure how to post approval, but it's been confirmed and directed towards https://gswiki.play.net/Ithzir_Genesis for the most current details [[User:FIREPHOENIX|FIREPHOENIX]] ([[User talk:FIREPHOENIX|talk]]) 23:26, 15 July 2022 (CDT)

:Dergoatean — Today at 11:16 PM
:Hi, you absolutely have my permission

::Thank you very much! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:36, 20 July 2022 (CDT)

=== Moving Saved Posts ===

[[User_talk:FIREPHOENIX]]: I just wanted to give you a head's up that I am moving and consolidating some saved posts on the wiki that don't meet the current [[Help:Style/Formatting_special_articles#Saved_posts|Style Guide standards]] for saved posts. Most of them are being moved to the "/saved posts" subpage of relevant questlines, and I am updating any broken links made as a result of these moves. I didn't want to worry you with the sudden rearranging of data and related page deletion since they include a few of the saved posts that you have archived with your ongoing efforts to preserve game history. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 11:40, 21 July 2022 (CDT)

=== Wood Rarity Template Links ===

[[User talk:WINTERDAWN]]: Hi, WINTERDAWN. I just wanted to give you a head's up on why I reverted your changes to [[Template:Wood_Rarity_and_Use]] to remove the redlined links added. The additional links were all to existing real world trees that are not unique to Elanthia. While it is certainly fine for someone to eventually make pages for individual trees and add those links back in to the template, none of the trees with redlined links had anything unique to them in an Elanthian setting apart from their real world equivalents. Hopefully that helps clarify! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:43, 26 July 2022 (CDT)

=== Merchant NPC Pages ===

[[User_talk:ECHEAUX]]: Hi, ECHEAUX. Thank you for your many contributions to the wiki! Getting a lot of the information related to the ongoing Ebon Gate festival out there while it is still running is a big help to other players. Just as a head's up, I have reverted some of the updates you made to various merchant NPC pages. These are largely restricted to where historical information was removed, such as festival venues or various towns where the merchants have worked. I wanted to drop you a note to explain why those changes were reverted so that you weren't surprised by them.

I also have a question regarding the recent updates that you made to [[Template:Merchants]] and related updates to various merchant NPC pages. Looking at the template, it seems like the "venue" section is now much more restricted than before, limited to only a very small list of festivals instead of being more free form as it was in the past. Is that intended or just an oversight? We have so many different festival venues that limiting which ones the template could be used for seems counterproductive, especially if it means that historical information is not preserved. It also looks like you have added a "town" as a new section, which can only have one entry. Is "town" intended to be the merchant's home town? Or is it intended to be the town they most often work in among the various towns they frequent? Thank you for any insight you can offer. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:56, 26 October 2022 (CDT)

=== Works in Progress ===
[[User_talk:ECHEAUX]]: Hi there, ECHEAUX. I am slowly working through patrols of item script page updates, which I know you focused heavily on late last year. It looks like on several of them, mostly ones from October and November, you included the work-in-progress template to indicate you are still working on the pages, however many of them do not appear to have any recent updates in the past month+. While I don't believe these are all of them, they include [[AYRWT?]], [[Flask belt]], [[Ritualistic tool]], and a few others that look like they were from last year's Ebon Gate festival. Are you still actively working on some of these pages? If not, I'll remove the WIP template as I do the patrols to let other users know they are open for editing again. Thanks again for everything you do to help add to the wiki! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:29, 10 January 2023 (CST)
:I have responded to your question on my [[User_talk:ECHEAUX#Works_in_Progress|discussion page]].[[User:ECHEAUX|ECHEAUX]] ([[User talk:ECHEAUX|talk]]) 10:59, 10 January 2023 (CST)
::I have responded to your response :) [[User:ECHEAUX|ECHEAUX]] ([[User talk:ECHEAUX|talk]]) 11:57, 10 January 2023 (CST)

=== Page Moves ===
[[User talk:ECHEAUX]]: Hi, ECHEAUX. I noticed that when you set up the item script page for the [[Grooming locket]], you did so by moving one of your test/sandbox pages with a substantial edit history to the current page. In doing so, that also had the the effect of moving the entire page history for your test page, which included a large number of edits stemming from when you were testing out formatting for other item scripts unrelated to the Grooming locket. While the wiki team is very glad that you're using your test/sandbox pages to try out new things, the best practice in this instance would be to just cut and paste the source code from your test page into a newly created item page instead of moving it from your sandbox if there are unrelated edits in the test page's history. I know that you're very well versed in wiki use at this point, but if you'd like, I can help with that process for the Grooming locket page. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:49, 7 February 2023 (CST)
:Responded [[User:ECHEAUX|ECHEAUX]] ([[User talk:ECHEAUX|talk]]) 12:32, 7 February 2023 (CST)

===Talk Pages vs Articles===

[[User talk:WINTERDAWN]]: Hi, WINTERDAWN. I am reaching out to you because I am reverting back the edits on [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]] to include the full text of the letter instead of omitting portions of it. Could you help me understand why you removed portions of the letter? I understand that you also put the log of the letter being read aloud in game on the page's Talk page. However, the purpose of a Talk page is to provide notes about the main article, such as indicating permission to share something on behalf of another person, sharing incomplete research information, or asking a question/seeking clarification about the text of an article. Talk pages are not intended to be used as supplementary articles, nor should articles omit relevant information for the sake of sharing it on a Talk page. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:42, 8 February 2023 (CST)

:So there are two separate authors here: myself and WBURKE.

:When I first came across the letter as relayed by Cordarius, in user LEAFIARA's log, I thought, "this is very useful information that should probably be more accessible than in the middle of a log." However, it was late, and I was not necessarily wanting to embark on a lengthy project at the time, and so I literally just copy/pasted it into a separate wiki page (the awkwardly named one I marked for deletion).

:Soon after this, user WBURKE created a page to document the information relayed by that letter. The desire of my page was "here's the log so it's easier to find, maybe it'll be made nicer one day." The desire of their page was to focus on the specific points of interest in that letter. My focus was "here's the letter in full" while their focus was "here's the bullet points with regards to the Empire and Wehnimer's Landing." What they created is what I wanted the log to eventually turn into.

:I still felt it useful to have the log around, though, and so dumped it on the discussion page as I don't know where else to put it.

:As an aside, based on how this wiki is used, both in the past and currently, I feel that the discussion page is a fine spot for these types of things. On other wikis yes, you can have very lengthy conversations about the topics you listed, but that just doesn't really happen here on this one.

:Based on those guidelines we would need to move this content: [[Talk:Sanctify (330)]] and [[Talk:Introduction to the Confluence#The Mentor Event Itself]]. I feel that these bits, that are relevant to their pages, would detract from the pages themselves if added. The Sanctify content would just muddy the page and the Confluence content has no relevance on the guide itself. The Sanctify content would be easy enough to break out into it's own guide I guess, and I guess the Confluence content could just be added to my user page or something. /shrug

:Anyways, just my thoughts. At the end of the day you're the boss on this stuff so I acquiesce to what you feel is best :)

:[[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 16:58, 8 February 2023 (CST)

::Hi, WINTERDAWN. I am not ignoring your query; I am waiting on a response from the larger wiki team about how to approach this specific scenario. Generally speaking, any article's Talk page is not an appropriate venue for archiving important information. If the information is completed research, elaboration on topics contained within an article, or relevant log excerpts, that information should be on a main wiki article, not on a Talk page. Depending on what that information consists of, it could either be on the primary article itself or on a different article that is explicitly created to delve into a more complex concept.
::In the case of [[Talk:Sanctify (330)]], the information presented on it would be best in a main article and not on a Talk page; looking at the content, it does seem appropriate for a 330 guide article, as you pointed out (see [[Help:Style#User pages]]). In the case of [[Talk:Introduction to the Confluence]], this appears to be a log excerpt and would be appropriate for a page that is set up as an event log - in the format of "YYYY-MM-DD - Log Title (log)" (as per [[Help:Style/Formatting special articles#Logs]]). However, as the main page itself appears to be set up as a guide, which appears to be drawn from the log itself (or vice versa), it should adhere to the standards of creating a guide. My general recommendation would be to preserve an entire log, including the introduction that is currently on the Talk page as well as any followup questions to the presentation, as a log article and then maintain the existing article as a guide with the information presented as is. That said, because the log excerpt that was retained on the Talk page does not appear to contain information vital to the article itself or further elaboration on the information presented in it, I also don't see an issue with keeping it as is for this specific case.
::In the case of [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]], which led to this conversation, given the nature of this specific article as well as the duplicate information between it and the article [[Protectorate]], I am waiting on confirmation on how best to handle it before taking any further action. Unless another mod or GM weighs in before me, it will likely not be until next week that I can relay the final determination. I appreciate your patience and understanding with this. While the GS wiki does not get anywhere near as much traffic or use as Wikipedia, that does not mean that the GS wiki does not have its standards for how pages, including Talk pages, should be used. Those standards are also continually evolving as more content is added, and what may have been considered fine two years ago may have have updated standards today. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:40, 9 February 2023 (CST)
:::Hello again, WINTERDAWN. After consulting with the wiki team, I have adjusted [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]] to show the previous version of the text instead of the log. I have transcluded the identically presented information from [[Protectorate]] onto [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]]. I have updated text on the page to link to the log excerpt on [[Protectorate]] instead of referencing the article's talk page. I have also updated the article's Talk page to remove the previously saved log excerpt, to clarify what its purpose is, and to direct anyone viewing it to [[Protectorate#5123]], which is where the complete log excerpt is located. Again, to reiterate, the purpose of Talk pages is to facilitate discussion about an article, such as questions about an article, incomplete research, or citing when permission was granted to post on behalf of another person. They are not intended to serve as articles themselves. Logs and completed research should be either incorporated into the main article or in a supplementary article. Hopefully this helps clear up any confusion for you. Thank you again for your patience as I worked to resolve this. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:13, 14 February 2023 (CST)

::::Alright, thank you for this information and checking into things :) I'll work on the two pages I mentioned (and any others I come across later) as soon as I can. [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 05:18, 15 February 2023 (CST)

===Third Party Software===
[[User talk:GS4ALASTIR]]: Hi, GS4ALASTIR. I have followed up with the wiki team on a few recent edits that you made related to third-party software documentation on the wiki. Specifically, I am referring to the subpages you created associated with both [[Script Bigshot]] documentation and the main [[Script Eloot]] article. The wiki policy for documenting Lich software is viewable on [[Help:Style#Lich_information]]. You will need to get staff approval before creating any new Lich script pages or subpages by contacting the [mailto:gs4-wiki@play.net GSWiki email address]. (It is perfectly fine to continue to make edits to existing Lich script pages or subpages.) I will be taking the following steps:
* I am reverting the recent edits that you made to the [[Script Bigshot]] page to restore the information that was removed from it and moved onto the different subpages. Those subpages are:
** [[Script Bigshot/Profile tab]]
** [[Script Bigshot/Resting tab]]
** [[Script Bigshot/Hunting tab]]
** [[Script Bigshot/Attacking tab]]
** [[Script Bigshot/Commands tab]]
** [[Script Bigshot/Monitoring tab]]
** [[Script Bigshot/Misc tab]]
* I am adding a template on each of the Script Bigshot subpages noting that they are marked for deletion.
* I will be deleting each of the Script Bigshot subpages a week from today.
* I am adding a template onto the [[Script Eloot]] page noting that it is marked for deletion.
* I will be deleting [[Script Eloot]] a week from today.
* I am reverting the recent edits that you made to [[:Template:Third-Party Software]], which added a link and reference to the Script Eloot page.
Some of the information that you put onto the Script Bigshot subpages appears to be updated from how it was originally presented on the main article. I want to make sure that you have the opportunity to save or move that back on to the main approved script article before the subpages are permanently deleted. I also want to make sure that you have the same opportunity to save the information you wrote for the Script Eloot page. If you have any questions, please let me or another mod know, either via talk page or by asking on the official Discord server. Thanks for understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:27, 21 March 2023 (CDT)

===Character Vignettes===
[[User talk:LORDROELET]]: Hi there, LORDROELET. I wanted to let you know why I moved your [[Roelon (prime)/Vignette: Plea to the Wsalamir|Plea to the Wsalamir vignette]] back to where you had originally placed it on the wiki. The [[Help:Storyline guidelines#Character Vignettes|storyline guidelines]] were recently updated to address how character vignettes should be posted to the wiki, largely because most character vignettes were shared in response to storylines. Moving forward, their articles should be set up in the format of:
:<code><nowiki>Character name (instance)/Vignette name</nowiki></code>
In addition, they should not use the [[:Template:Creative-work#Character Vignettes|creative-work]] template as character vignettes are considered a form of "off screen roleplay" instead of a creative work like a poem or short story being told by a character. Thank you for sharing your character's vignettes on the wiki. If you have any questions, the best place to ask is on the Official GS Wiki discussion thread in the Discord forum's Help section. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:54, 5 April 2023 (CDT)

===Third Party Software and Scripts===
[[User talk:RINUALDO]]: Hi there, RINUALDO. I have followed up with the wiki team on some new articles you made associated with Lich script documentation. Specifically, I am referring to [[Script foreach]] and [[Script invdb]], which were made last week, plus [[Script Ebounty]], which was made late last year. The wiki policy for documenting Lich software is viewable on [[Help:Style#Lich_information]]. I have confirmed with the wiki team that permission was not given in advance of these articles being created. You will need to get staff approval before creating any new Lich script articles or subarticles by contacting the [mailto:gs4-wiki@play.net GSWiki email address]. (It is perfectly fine to continue to make edits to existing Lich script articles or subarticles.) I am taking the following steps:
* I am adding a template on all three pages noting that they are marked for deletion:
** [[Script foreach]]
** [[Script invdb]]
** [[Script Ebounty]]
* I will delete all three pages one week from today.
I understand that you are active in helping maintain the existing approved third party software articles so that they are accurate and easy to understand for the community. I want to make sure that you have the opportunity to save the information you wrote for the above three articles should they be approved for creation again at a later date. If you have any questions, please let me or another mod know, either via talk page or by asking on the official Discord server. Thank you for understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:03, 18 April 2023 (CDT)
:Putting stuff on talk pages with no way for a user to know that something exists unless they go to the wiki daily is a terrible, terrible way to communicate about deleting something with a timer.
:Can you please clarify "I have confirmed with the wiki team that permission was not given in advance of these articles being created" who you clarified this with?
::Hello again, RINUALDO. I am following up on your question from yesterday about the three articles you created for lich scripts. I did alert the wiki team of your message to me when you added it, and I am aware that staff were able to talk with you on Discord afterward and confirm that you did indeed have prior authorization for the invdb and foreach script articles.
::I would like to apologize on behalf of the wiki team for incorrectly flagging the [[Script foreach]] and [[Script invdb]] articles as not authorized. I am reverting my edits to both of those articles where I had added the delete template, and I am also putting a note on their respective Discussion tabs so that there is no confusion in the future. Unfortunately, the [[Script Ebounty]] article was not approved in advance of it being created, so I do need to delete it when the seven day window has concluded. Thank you for your patience and understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:37, 20 April 2023 (CDT)

The ebounty page was intended in the prior approval that was released. It was referenced in the email request, which I could have been more specific. As this has gone to Feedback, please do not delete anything until the issue is resolved.
:Hi, RINUALDO. I have relayed your message to me on my talk page to the wiki team . Also, just as an FYI if it is helpful, if you want to add on your user name and a timestamp of an edit to the end of the message, it is possible to do so with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:46, 25 April 2023 (CDT)
::Hi again, RINUALDO. I wanted to update you on the three articles I previously reached out to you about. I have removed the delete template and renamed the article for [[Lich:Script Ebounty]] to conform with the updated guidelines for Lich scripts on the wiki. I have also moved both [[Lich:Script invdb]] and [[Lich:Script foreach]] for the same reason. All three articles will need the forthcoming lich header template added to them once the template has been finalized. Thank you for your patience and understanding as the wiki guidelines continue to evolve. I appreciate your continued efforts to add documentation to the wiki to help other players better enjoy the game. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:23, 23 May 2023 (CDT)

===Thaumaturge Tome Script===
[[User talk:ALLENM20]]: Hello, ALLENM20. I am following up with you on behalf of the wiki team. I know that MOD-GSMOTTE already reached out to you about the [[Lich:Thaumaturge Tome Script]] article that you previously wrote. In light of the updates to the wiki standards for lich script pages, the script article is now permitted on the wiki. I have moved the article so that its title properly conforms with these new standards (which adds Lich: at the start of the article title). The article will need to be updated with the forthcoming lich script template as soon as it is released. Thank you for your patience and understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:18, 30 May 2023 (CDT)

===Character Vignettes===
[[User talk:HALEM20]]: Hi again, HALEM20. Thank you for doing so many updates to help record events in the recent and ongoing Platinum storylines. I noticed that you recently added two character vignettes related to the [[:Category:What Lurks in the Dark|What Lurks in the Dark]] storyline that do not appear to be linked to your account based on prior edits to their respective character pages. If you are uploading vignettes on behalf of another player, you will need to very clearly state that on the Discussion tab for each page. The two vignettes are [[Jaired (platinum)/Loose Ends]] and [[Oliviero (platinum)/Interruption]]. To add that information, you will just need to click on the Discussion tab at the top of each article and note that you have permission to upload them. I recommend adding <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> to the end of it to make sure that you have a clear account/date/timestamp applied afterward. Thank you for understanding! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:17, 19 June 2023 (CDT)
:Hello, HALEM20. I previously reached out to you about two character vignettes related to the [[:Category:What Lurks in the Dark|What Lurks in the Dark]] storyline that you added to the wiki for characters that did not appear to be yours, based on prior edits to their respective character pages. I see that Oliviero's player did confirm that permission was given to upload [[Oliviero (platinum)/Interruption]] to the wiki, however there is still no indication that Jaired's player gave permission to upload [[Jaired (platinum)/Loose Ends]]. GSwiki has recently updated its copyright policy with regard to posting works created by another person. I have flagged the "Interruption" vignette for not being in compliance with the updated [[Gswiki:Policy]] for [[GSwiki:Policy#Copyrights|Copyrights]] on works created by someone other than the uploader. A statement that the vignette was uploaded with permission by the author must be added to the vignette's [[Talk:Jaired (platinum)/Loose Ends|Discussion tab]]. '''If that is not added within 7 days, it will be deleted from the wiki.''' If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for copyrights on articles, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926|Discord forum's wiki thread]. Thank you for your understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:34, 13 July 2023 (CDT)

=== Blanked Article===
[[User talk:PAELA]]: Hi there, PAELA. I noticed that you created two articles for your vignette, "Disturbing News", and then went back and deleted all of the text on the duplicate article. The one that still has text is [[Agathilea (prime)/Disturbing News]] while the one that has had all text removed is [[Agathilea (prime)/Disturbing News/Disturbing News]]. Did you remove all the text because you wanted the second article to be deleted? Putting <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki> on an article is the best way to let a wiki Mod know that the page was created in error and should be deleted from the wiki instead of just removing all of the text on it. If that is what you would like to be done, please add the delete template to the article so another mod or I can remove it for you. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:14, 9 August 2023 (CDT)

===Recent Edits===
[[User talk:LUXELLE]]: Hi there, LUXELLE. I'd like to thank you for your many contributions to the wiki, especially for your guides to help other players better enjoy the various festivals and events in game. I know that you frequently collaborate with other players to write some of your guides. Another user recently made some edits to one of your guides, [[Duskruin primer]], that I was not sure were intended by you or your team. They do not appear to be malicious in nature, however I did want to reach out to you about if they were intended to be part of the article. The edits are a new section at the end of the article, [[Duskruin primer#All the big credit givings|All the big credit givings]]. If these edits were not intended by you or your team, either you can delete them or you can let me know and another mod or I would be happy to delete them for you. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:26, 16 August 2023 (CDT)

===Images and Article Edits at Risk for Deletion===
[[User talk:CELLORA]]: Hi there, CELLORA. In reviewing some recent updates to the wiki, I saw that you have made quite a few edits to [[Sorlu (prime)]], which appears to be a character page for someone else's character. There is no indication anywhere that Sorlu's player gave you permission to create or edit a character page on their behalf. [[Gswiki:Policy]] prohibits users from editing character pages unless the character is theirs or they have been given permission by that character's player to make those edits. If you do have permission to edit Sorlu's character page, you will need to indicate this by clearly stating it on its Discussion/Talk tab, [[Talk:Sorlu (prime)]], that you have been given permission to do so by his player. Alternatively, Sorlu's player can put that information on the discussion page. When adding that information, please make sure to add <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end of your comments, which will automatically add a "signature" with your user name, plus the date and time of when your edit was made.

In addition, there are a couple of images that I have flagged, all of which appear related to the same character article. I think I understand what is going on with the images but would appreciate some clarification from you if my understanding is correct.
* [[:File:Nalfein Crest.png]] - This image appears to be a duplicate of [[:File:A Nalfein Crest.png]]. It is not used on any articles. An earlier edit by you to the file noted you as being the creator.
* [[:File:A Nalfein Crest.png]] - This image appears on [[Sorlu (prime)]]. This image notes Sorlu as being the creator, as does the caption you added to Sorlu's character page.
Can you confirm who created the image? It appears that Sorlu's player created it, you erroneously placed your name on "Nalfein Crest" then removed it, then reuploaded the image crediting Sorlu. Is that accurate? If so, I will delete the first duplicate file as it is not used anywhere.
* [[:File:Nalfein Crest 3.png]] - This image appears to be a duplicate of [[:File:Rotting Nalfein Cret.png]]. It is not used on any articles. This image notes you as being the creator, not Sorlu's player.
* [[:File:Rotting Nalfein Cret.png]] This image appears on [[Sorlu (prime)]]. This image notes Sorlu as being the creator, as does the caption you added to Sorlu's character page.
Can you confirm who created the image? It appears that this is a similar situation as the above two images, where you first listed yourself as the creator then re-uploaded the image listing Sorlu as the creator. If that is the case, I will delete the first duplicate file as it is not used anywhere.

In all cases, '''If that information is not added within 7 days, your edits to the character page and the impacted images will be deleted from the wiki.''' Thank you very much for clearly taking steps to fully credit images, not just who created them but also if permission was granted to upload them. That is a big help for moderators like me as we review edits to the wiki. If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for editing character pages, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926%7CDiscord forum's wiki thread]. Thank you for understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 11:02, 29 August 2023 (CDT)

Hello! Yes, I made a mistake on the images and couldn't figure out how to fix it without uploading new ones. If you could please delete the first ones, that would be great! He created them. I'm still figuring out the flagging and all of that for the wiki. I will add a note on the page that he gave me permission to create the page as well. [[User:CELLORA|CELLORA]] ([[User talk:CELLORA|talk]]) 12:59, 29 August 2023 (CDT)

===Article/Edits at Risk for Deletion===
[[User talk:DASLOONIX]]: Hi again, DASLOONIX. In reviewing some recent updates to the wiki, I saw that you have made quite a few edits to [[Sorlu (prime)]], which appears to be a character page for someone else's character. There is no indication anywhere that Sorlu's player gave you permission to create or edit a character page on their behalf. [[Gswiki:Policy]] prohibits users from editing character pages unless the character is theirs or they have been given permission by that character's player to make those edits. If you do have permission to edit Sorlu's character page, you will need to indicate this by clearly stating it on its Discussion/Talk tab, [[Talk:Sorlu (prime)]], that you have been given permission to do so by his player. Alternatively, Sorlu's player can put that information on the discussion page. When adding that information, please make sure to add <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end of your comments, which will automatically add a "signature" with your user name, plus the date and time of when your edit was made. '''If that information is not added within 7 days, your edits to that article will be deleted from the wiki.''' If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for editing character pages, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926%7CDiscord forum's wiki thread]. Thank you for understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 11:02, 29 August 2023 (CDT)

===Images and Article Edits at Risk for Deletion===
[[User talk:CHADDEAUX]]: Hello, CHADDEAUX. I am reaching out to you about two things.

First, a few years ago you created and edited a character page article, [[Dirvy (prime)]], which has since then been edited by another user. There is no indication anywhere that Dirvy's player gave you permission to create or edit a character page on their behalf. [[Gswiki:Policy]] prohibits users from creating or editing character pages unless the character is theirs or they have been given permission by that character's player to make those edits. If you do have permission to edit Dirvy's character page, you will need to indicate this by clearly stating it on its Discussion/Talk tab, [[Talk:Dirvy (prime)]], that you have been given permission to do so by her player. Alternatively, Dirvy's player can put that information on the discussion page. When adding that information, please make sure to add <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end of your comments, which will automatically add a "signature" with your user name, plus the date and time of when your edit was made.

Second, you previously uploaded three images to the wiki which are missing some required information. GSwiki now has a new policy for all images uploaded to it. Please see [[Gswiki:Policy#Copyrights]] for more information about that policy and the requirement to note image creators, what AI imaging software was used (if any), and if permission was granted by the creator to upload the image to the wiki.
* [[:File:Dirvy Britbane medium.jpg]] - Thank you for already stating that Stormyrain created this artwork. You will need to add whether Stormyrain also gave you permission to upload the image onto the wiki. This information will need to be noted both on the image file as well as all articles displaying it.
* [[:File:Dirvy by Flimbo.jpg]] - Thank you for already stating that Flimbo created this artwork. You will need to add whether Flimbo also gave you permission to upload the image onto the wiki. This information will need to be noted both on the image file as well as all articles displaying it.
* [[:File:Zailon.png]] - Thank you for already stating that Flimbo created this artwork. You will need to add whether Flimbo also gave you permission to upload the image onto the wiki. This information will need to be noted both on the image file as well as all articles displaying it.
In all cases for the character page and the three images, '''if the required information is not added within 7 days, the edits to the character page and the images will be deleted from the wiki.''' If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for images, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926%7CDiscord forum's wiki thread]. Thank you for understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:50, 17 October 2023 (CDT)

===Images and Article Edits at Risk for Deletion===
[[User talk:TWILSON]]: Hello, TWILSON. I am reaching out to you about two things.

First, you recently edited a character page article, [[Dirvy (prime)]], which was originally created and edited by another user. There is no indication anywhere that Dirvy's player gave you permission to create or edit a character page on their behalf. [[Gswiki:Policy]] prohibits users from creating or editing character pages unless the character is theirs or they have been given permission by that character's player to make those edits. If you do have permission to edit Dirvy's character page, you will need to indicate this by clearly stating it on its Discussion/Talk tab, [[Talk:Dirvy (prime)]], that you have been given permission to do so by her player. Alternatively, Dirvy's player can put that information on the discussion page. When adding that information, please make sure to add <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end of your comments, which will automatically add a "signature" with your user name, plus the date and time of when your edit was made.

Second, you recently uploaded an image to the wiki, [[:File:Dirvy gencraft image.jpg]], which is missing some required information. GSwiki now has a new policy for all images uploaded to it. Please see [[Gswiki:Policy#Copyrights]] for more information about that policy and the requirement to note image creators, what AI imaging software was used (if any), and if permission was granted by the creator to upload the image to the wiki. Images using AI software in their creation are also required to be included in [[:Category:AI artwork]] Thank you for already noting that it was created using AI software. You will need to add who created the image and, if that person is not you, if you had permission to upload it to the wiki. This information will need to be noted both on the image file as well as any articles displaying it.

In all cases for the character page and the image, '''if the required information is not added within 7 days, the edits to the character page and the image will be deleted from the wiki.''' If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for images, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926%7CDiscord forum's wiki thread]. Thank you for understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:49, 17 October 2023 (CDT)

===Blanked article===
[[User talk:GS4ALASTIR]]: Hi there, GS4ALASTIR. I noticed that you created an article for [[Emberthorn Refuge]] with a lot of information on it then shortly afterward went back and removed all of the text. Are you trying to have the article deleted? If so, placing <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki> on an article flags it for mods to review for deletion. Thanks again for your many contributions! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 11:25, 12 September 2023 (CDT)

===Short Story Question===

[[User talk:CHIVERSFREE1]]: Hello, CHIVERSFREE1. The wiki team is currently working on some updates for the style guide as it relates to various types of creative works, including short stories and vignettes. This includes better defining what different creative works are so that they are better reflected with the creative-works template, article titles, etc., to help out both contributors and other players accessing the wiki. I know that you have been working on several lengthy articles, such as [[The Reckoning (short story)]], which might span several categories of creative works. I was hoping that you could share some insight on how you have approached writing articles like it.

You have "The Reckoning" labeled as a short story with the creative-works template. It appears to be a series of glimpses into off-screen/out-of-game roleplay focusing on your character as opposed to a short story written or shared by your character or set within Elanthia in general. Would you feel that is accurate - that it is more a lengthy series of off-screen vignettes as opposed to a formal short story? It also appears that there are sometimes contributions by other authors, such as chapters where Rohese and Mirkk are having a conversation or actively doing things together. Is "The Reckoning" retelling events that have taken place in game in a prose format (as opposed to a log format)? In some ways, it seems like it might almost be a [[Help:Storyline guidelines#Player-Run Storylines|player-run storyline]] focusing on Rohese's personal growth and evolution.

Thank you in advance for any insight you can offer. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:33, 3 October 2023 (CDT)

===Duplicate Logs===
[[User talk:TUMARA]]: Hi there, TUMARA. You recently added two logs that appear to be identical to the wiki. Can you please clarify which one you intended to keep? You can do this by editing the duplicate log that you want deleted and adding <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki> somewhere on that log article. That flags it for a mod to delete. The two logs are:
* [[The Heads Rolled (Battle Log)]]
* [[The Heads Rolled--Battle Log]]
I will update the one you intended to keep with the correct log title once you have identified it. It will end up as titled "Evermore Hollow - 2023-10-23 - The Heads Rolled Battle (log)", per [[Gswiki:Style guide/Formatting special articles#Logs]]. If you do not note which article you prefer to keep within 7 days, then I will delete the newer article and keep the older one. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:35, 31 October 2023 (CDT)

===Uploaded Images and Captions===
[[User talk:PTOLEMY]]: Hello, PTOLEMY. I have updated the image captions for all new images you added to your character page, [[Jaysehn (prime)]]. GSwiki now has a new policy for all images uploaded to it. Please see [[Gswiki:Policy#AI-Generated Artwork]] for more information about that policy and how it pertains to any images created with AI imaging software. AI generated images cannot be noted as copyrighted, and the captions displaying AI generated images must reflect the same information as what you indicated in their file uploads. I have already updated the captions based on information you provided with the uploaded files, however please keep this in mind with any future use of them or other AI-generated images. In addition, I have also already added the required [[:Category:AI artwork]] for all of your recently uploaded images. If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for images, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926%7CDiscord forum's wiki thread]. Thank you for your help with this process. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:08, 7 November 2023 (CST)

===Duplicate Article===
[[User talk:PTOLEMY]]: Hello, PTOLEMY. You recently created two identical articles, [[Paid in Full]] and [[Jaysehn (prime)/Reflections/Paid in Full]]. I suspect that the second is the article you intended to create and the first was made in error, due to the second following the Style Guide's standards for personal vignettes. Can you please confirm which duplicate should be deleted? This can be done by editing the one you wish deleted and putting in the <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki> template anywhere on the article. If I do not hear any response from you in one week, I will mark [[Paid in Full]] with the delete template for mod review and deletion. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:45, 13 December 2023 (CST)

===Images and Article Edits at Risk for Deletion===

[[User talk:PTOLEMY]]:Hi, PTOLEMY. I'm reaching out to you about a couple of things.

First, I'm contacting you about the recent images that you have uploaded to the wiki. The requirements for posting images to the wiki has changed this past year. Please see [[Gswiki:Policy#Copyrights]] for more information about that policy and the requirement to note image creators, what AI imaging software was used (if any), and if permission was granted by the creator to upload the image to the wiki. In addition, all images using AI generating software are required to include <nowiki>[[Category:AI artwork]]</nowiki> on the files themselves. I have edited all but two of the files that you have uploaded to include this, however in the future if this continues to be omitted, I will begin flagging those files for moderater review/deletion. This text should be added as part of the image file description when you upload it, or edited it into the image file description after uploading. The two files I have not edited to include this information are outlined in the next paragraph.

Second, you recently edited a character page, [[Hadya (prime)]], which has been maintained by another user. There is no indication anywhere that Hadya's player gave you permission to edit a character page on their behalf. [[Gswiki:Policy]] prohibits users from creating or editing character pages unless the character is theirs or they have been given permission by that character's player to make those edits. If you do have permission to edit Hadya's character page, you will need to indicate this by clearly stating it on its Discussion tab, [[Talk:Hadya (prime)]], that you have been given permission to do so by her player. Alternatively, Hadya's player can put that information on the discussion tab. When adding that information, please make sure to add <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end of your comments, which will automatically add a "signature" with your user name, plus the date and time of when your edit was made. I am flagging the edits you made to this article as well as the two images you uploaded for it as not following [[Gswiki:Policy]] requiring permission from the character's player. The two impacted images are [[:File:Hadya AI Ptolemy.jpg]] and [[:File:HadyaSummons AI Ptolemy.jpg]]. These two images are also missing the required <nowiki>[[Category:AI artwork]]</nowiki>.

'''If that information is not added within 7 days, these images and article edits will be deleted from the wiki.''' Please do not remove the <nowiki>{{moddelete}}</nowiki> template from the images and article displaying them. Another moderator or I will remove that template after your updates have been reviewed to ensure that they meet [[Gswiki:Policy]] requirements. If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for images, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926 Discord forum's wiki thread]. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:25, 20 December 2023 (CST)

===Duplicate Images===
[[User talk:LYSTRA]]: Hi there, LYSTRA. You recently uploaded two images to the wiki that appear to be duplicates of one another except with slightly different resolutions. The two image files are [[:File:Fyg-kitten.png]] (1024x1024 pixels) and [[:File:Fyg-kitten1.png]] (500x500 pixels). Can you please let me know which of the two you had intended to keep on the wiki and which is the duplicate that should be deleted? I will remove the duplicate image. You can let me or another moderator know by adding <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki> to the image file that was uploaded in error, or you can respond here. If I do not hear back from you in one week, I will flag the image with the lower resolution for mod review and deletion. In addition, all images using AI software in their creation are required to be included in [[:Category:AI artwork]]. To add that text to an image file, you will need to click on "Edit Source" on the image file itself and add <nowiki>[[Category:AI artwork]]</nowiki>. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:01, 20 December 2023 (CST)
:[[:File_talk:Fyg-kitten1.png]]: This image appears to be a lower resolution duplicate of [[:File:Fyg-kitten.png]] and is not used on any articles. It will be deleted in favor of the higher resolution image unless the uploader requests that this image be kept and the higher resolution image be deleted instead. Uploader originally contacted on 12/20/23 regarding the existence of a duplicate image and informed of this next step. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:06, 27 December 2023 (CST)

===Article Edits at Risk for Deletion===
[[User talk:SWEETLITTLEAGONY]]: Hello, SWEETLITTLEAGONY. In reviewing some recent updates to the wiki, I saw that you have made changes to [[Lissaya (prime)]], which appears to be a character page for someone else's character as the article was originally created by a different account. There is no indication anywhere that Lissaya's player gave you permission to edit a character page on their behalf. [[Gswiki:Policy]] prohibits users from editing character pages unless the character is theirs or they have been given permission by that character's player to make those edits. If you do have permission to edit Lissaya's character page, you will need to indicate this by clearly stating it on its Discussion tab, [[Talk:Lissaya (prime)]], that you have been given permission to do so by her player. Alternatively, Lissaya's player can put that information on the discussion page. When adding that information, please make sure to add <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end of your comments, which will automatically add a "signature" with your user name, plus the date and time of when your edit was made. '''If that information is not added within 7 days, your edits to that article will be deleted from the wiki.''' If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for editing character pages, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926 Discord forum's wiki thread]. Thank you for understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:49, 20 December 2023 (CST)

===Edits to Announcements===
[[User talk:CHAPSICKLE2]]: Hi there, CHAPSICKLE2. Your recent edits to [[Announcement: Spell Disabler Review Live!]] were reverted as they violated [[Gswiki:Policy]], which states "Articles may be created or edited freely with the exception of: Announcements, Official Documentation, and Official Vignettes - Created by GameMasters only, handled by GameMasters and Moderators only." This is not an official warning or anything as the edits do appear to have been made in good faith. I have moved a copy of your added comments to the Announcement's Discussion/Talk tab, which can be accessed at [[Talk:Announcement: Spell Disabler Review Live!]]. In the future, please use the Discussion/Talk tab when adding notes related to official staff announcements if there is not a primary non-announcement article for the update discussed. Thank you for understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:21, 16 January 2024 (CST)

== Uploaded Image Patrol ==

Moved to [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET/Image patrols]].

== Elanthian Journals ==

By chance are you able to see the old Elanthian Journal pages that were deleted? I just realized.. one thing I never did is check each one to see what linked to them. I just found a page that linked to a Journal :| [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 16:52, 12 August 2022 (CDT)
:Unfortunately, no. Once a page is deleted, it is gone-gone. However, I was able to pull up a list of broken links and adjusted seven pages that appeared to reference the old Elanthian Journal pages. That should hopefully have caught any others that were overlooked! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:45, 16 August 2022 (CDT)
::Thank you for this! Sorry for the extra work. [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 15:44, 16 August 2022 (CDT)
:::Very welcome! Thank you for bringing up the potential of broken links. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:14, 17 August 2022 (CDT)

== Merchants template ==

I cobbled that template together in 2019, as a pet project, when things were a little more relaxed. So many people were "remember that one merchant? Where were they?? What did they look like??", that it felt like a good addition. Anyway, it was a build based on a template someone else had done, as you've likely read. I had planned on continuing work on it, then COVID hit and I turned into a homeschool teacher for two young teenagers.

Venues: the primary reason I changed those venues was because it was putting so many merchants into categories that didn't exist, and may not have been the best one for them to go into ''at the time''. By restricting category to "wandering" and others that already had a category made, it cut down on "red links"; '''wandering''' moved them into a common category and could be changed later. '''Generally speaking''', if they had a mention in their blurb as to what venue they attended, I removed the category that was causing a red link, although any that did not were likely an oversight (the notable exception being Elsia - I forgot to research her item, '''Fancy Coats''', so I could add the venue).

Towns: it was my intention to adapt the template to allow them to be placed into the category '''for that town'''. An example would be citizen-only merchants such as Duvernith or Davro. I admittedly got wrapped up in EG item-adding and had not gotten back to fixing the "town" venue to populate into town pages instead of '''Town''' NPCs, a category that doesn't exist, so I just left town uncategorized for the time being.

Many of those merchants I added myself with no real idea of what venues they had visited, in that hopes of at least having an appearance and a basic blurb to be expanded upon later. I had intended to continue with the work after EG and add category pages where appropriate. That section of the template might get pretty long for particularly industrious merchants! '''Wandering''' seemed like a good fit if they didn't have what might be considered a "primary festival" (for example, I wouldn't be surprised to see Elusionari in a lot of places!).

That said, I get that once you add a template, you basically lose any claim to it being "yours". However, no one else really took an interest in it, and I was told it would need work anyway, so I figured I was all right to try to adapt it to '''not''' use non-existent categories for the time being, since many (most?) of them had venue linked in the blurb or the body of the article. (TL:DR yet? LOL)[[User:ECHEAUX|ECHEAUX]] ([[User talk:ECHEAUX|talk]]) 12:09, 26 October 2022 (CDT)

== Table updates ==

Hello! As I'm sure you've noticed, I've been going through and updating older items to the newer templates. A lot of them are simple, but some of them require more time; much more time in some cases. For those, fortunately, a lot them are more or less copy and paste for the verb lists with a few minor tweaks. I noticed that on a couple of them you've gone back and added in formatting for data tables for accessibility purposes. I read up on that today and I'll be sure to add that going forward, but I was wondering: Is there a way you are finding those that need it or are you just kind of seeing them as I'm doing them? I'd be more than happy to go back correct the formatting on those, but if there's a way I can find them more "wholesale" than "piecemeal", that would make the job easier. [[User:ECHEAUX|ECHEAUX]] ([[User talk:ECHEAUX|talk]]) 17:40, 9 November 2022 (CST)
:Hi there! Part of my duties as one of our wiki mods are to review recent page changes to ensure that they are appropriate to the wiki, are accurate, are appropriately named as a page or subpage, and that they generally comply with the wiki style guide. So you'll see me doing things like updating pages to use new template standards, moving pages that aren't named properly, fixing redirects or broken links, updating categories, reviewing pages listed in [[:Category:Marked for Deletion]], and similar "moderator" type duties focused on overall wiki consistency that are not expected of general users who instead are adding new content to the wiki. One of the standards set out by the style guide and the wiki team is to ensure that the wiki is as accessible as possible to everyone, including our users who rely on a screen reader. If I run across any pages during my patrols that don't meet current standards, including tables that are not set up in a way for screen readers to properly capture, part of my job as a moderator is to update them accordingly. Since you have been incredibly active on the wiki over the past couple of months, I am much more likely to review your edits than other users due to sheer volume; that's why it might look like I'm going back to change pages you've touched more so than other users. Thanks for inquiring! If you'd like to know more about our moderator team or what our role is, I encourage you to ask on the Gemstone Discord's #wiki-talk channel where one of the GMs overseeing the wiki can chime in. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:11, 10 November 2022 (CST)
::Oh, I understand that. I just wasn't sure if there was an easy way to see pages with certain errors so I could fix those that I missed them on. I can go through my contribution list and do it, though. Thanks for getting back to me![[User:ECHEAUX|ECHEAUX]] ([[User talk:ECHEAUX|talk]]) 10:34, 10 November 2022 (CST)

== Northern Sentinel's Decree==

Hello! My intention with this page was to list only the legal characteristics of the Landing's protectorate status. I deliberately did not want to include the preamble and ending of the letter, as they did not carry legal weight. As such, I would like to revert it to a version which contains only those legal characteristics. In my view, a log page or official document page would be more appropriate for recording the entire letter. [[User:WBURKE1|WBURKE1]] ([[User talk:WBURKE1|talk]])
:Hi, WBURKE1. Thanks for reaching out to me! I am not ignoring your query; I am waiting on a response from the larger wiki team about how to approach this specific scenario with the article [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]]. As I explained to WINTERDAWN, generally speaking an article's Talk page is not an appropriate venue for archiving important information. Given the nature of this specific article as well as the duplicate information between it and the article [[Protectorate]], I am waiting on confirmation on how best to handle it before taking any further action. Unless another mod or GM weighs in before me, it will likely not be until next week that I can relay the final determination. I appreciate your patience and understanding with this. Thank you again for all of your contributions to the wiki. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:40, 9 February 2023 (CST)
::Hello again, WBURKE1. After consulting with the wiki team, I have adjusted [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]] to show the previous version of the text instead of the log. I have transcluded the identically presented information from [[Protectorate]] onto [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]]. I have updated text on the page to link to the log excerpt on [[Protectorate]] instead of referencing the article's talk page. I have also updated the article's Talk page to remove the previously saved log excerpt, to clarify what its purpose is, and to direct anyone viewing it to [[Protectorate#5123]], which is where the complete log excerpt is located. This should help ensure that the intent behind the original page, which is to succinctly state the terms of the Landing's Protectorate status, is maintained while still preserving information. Thank you again for your patience as I worked to resolve this. Please let me know if you have any further questions or concerns. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:13, 14 February 2023 (CST)
:::Thanks for this resolution and for all your hard work! [[User:WBURKE1|WBURKE1]] ([[User talk:WBURKE1|talk]]) 12:39, 14 February 2023 (CST)

== Images ==

They're different images, please look more closely.

== I don't know what I'm doing! ==

Hi, I tried to DM, failed! But found.. this space. And I have no idea if I'm doing it correctly. I READ WHAT YOU WROTE and thank you for what was pointed out I will work on figuring out how to fix it, it just might not be instantly remedied (not too long, just not a finger-snap of time, I'm still figuring stuff out!) -DASLOONIX

== 5mb File Size Down to 2mb ==

I'm noticing that the wiki now has a 2mb file size limit when it used to be 5mb. Is this an unintended result of the recent update or is it intentional? I'm trying to update my OSA maps but the 2mb limit is going to cause a huge loss in quality on them. Thoughts? If it's intentional, perhaps you or an admin could override the setting and post the two maps for me? [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 19:56, 7 January 2024 (CST)
:I do not know about any details related to maximum file size changes. I have relayed your question to the wiki team and will respond on your user talk page when I have more information. While you are welcome to reach out to me (or other mods) with questions like this, you can also ask them on the [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926 Discord forum's wiki thread], where you may receive a faster response. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:08, 9 January 2024 (CST)
::Just checking in :) [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 23:41, 15 January 2024 (CST)
:::Hi, again! I did inquire but still have no update. The wiki team is relaying your question to onside/IT alongside several other extensions and related requests. As a result, this will take much more time to answer than most questions due to it being outside the scope of what the wiki team can address. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:01, 16 January 2024 (CST)
::::Okay, thank you! In the meantime, is this something you or an admin have the power to override for the 2 map files? [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 18:28, 16 January 2024 (CST)

User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET

2024-01-16T05:41:17Z

WINTERDAWN: /* 5mb File Size Down to 2mb */

== Have a question or comment? ==

HOST-GSKEBECHET (talk | contribs) (Added back in the OTS analyze and rearranged a couple things to conform with item script style guide.)

You added back in the Tier 1 analyze in the OTS section. [[User:GS4ALASTIR|GS4ALASTIR]] ([[User talk:GS4ALASTIR|talk]]) 10:46, 25 April 2023 (CDT)

Hello, I added a line that Stormyrain gave permission to use the image of the Sisters on the wiki [[User:STACYWALTER|STACYWALTER]] ([[User talk:STACYWALTER|talk]]) 06:16, 12 October 2023 (CDT)

You're doing great work. Thank you, I appreciate it. [[User:VANKRASN39|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39|talk]]) 11:42, 7 November 2023 (CST)
:Thank you! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]])

Hi, I got your message about the copywrite problems with my image. I created the image myself using Artflow.ai but I have literally no idea how to comply with your request and I can barely even understand it. I cant find the Discord page you linked to either. Could you please walk me through this step by step? I have almost no skill at coding or using the wiki...I created my page by simple cut and paste and rewriting.

Thank you,
Toxyrox

PS if it would be easier on Discord, my username there is Avondell.
:Thank you very much! I have responded on your talk page.[[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:37, 15 November 2023 (CST)

== Cross-posts of user:talk notes ==

=== Animalistic Spirit Shield iteminfo ===

[[User_talk:GS4ALASTIR]]: Hi, Alastir. Thank you very much for contributing so many different things to the various item script pages! Just as a head's up, I rolled back one of your changes made a while ago to the [[Animalistic_Spirit_Shield|Animalistic Spirit Shield]] page, where you had accidentally removed the iteminfo section. I have added back in the iteminfo section so that it properly displays; it's actually an important template to keep in place for scripted items as it helps populate other categories on the wiki, making it easier to cross-reference related things. Thanks for understanding! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:55, 21 June 2022 (CDT)

=== Category: Marked for Deletion ===

[[User talk:WINTERDAWN]]: Thank you for all of the contributions you've made toward archiving all of the Elanthian Journals! Just as a reminder, please use <nowiki>[[Category:Marked for Deletion]]</nowiki> on a page when you would like it deleted. I went ahead and deleted the Journal pages you had cleared and replaced with the text, "Things to be deleted by Simu Admin." because your intent appeared to be very clear, however using the Category instead would make it easier for any mods to see those pages as part of weekly patrols for page deletion requests. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:39, 7 July 2022 (CDT)
:Shoot. I was doing {{category... sorry about that! Also, sorry about the extra set of deletes that I created. I hope it wasn't too time consuming :| [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 13:01, 7 July 2022 (CDT)
::That's okay! It wasn't too time consuming. I just wanted to remind you about it for the future. Thank you again for all of your contributions![[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:37, 8 July 2022 (CDT)

=== Requesting Clarification ===

[[User_talk:FIREPHOENIX]]: Thank you for all of your contributions to preserving the-ever expanding game lore! I have a question regarding your recent edit to [[Ithzir_language_(essay)]]. Do you have the original author's permission to upload "Part 5" to the essay? I did not see you noting that anywhere on the essay's talk page ([[Talk:Ithzir_language_(essay)]]). When uploading someone else's work to the wiki on their behalf, it is important to note that on an individual creative work's talk page so that we have a clear understanding that permission was given by them. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:34, 14 July 2022 (CDT)

:I can confirm with Dergoaten shortly since he's an active player, unsure how to post approval, but it's been confirmed and directed towards https://gswiki.play.net/Ithzir_Genesis for the most current details [[User:FIREPHOENIX|FIREPHOENIX]] ([[User talk:FIREPHOENIX|talk]]) 23:26, 15 July 2022 (CDT)

:Dergoatean — Today at 11:16 PM
:Hi, you absolutely have my permission

::Thank you very much! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:36, 20 July 2022 (CDT)

=== Moving Saved Posts ===

[[User_talk:FIREPHOENIX]]: I just wanted to give you a head's up that I am moving and consolidating some saved posts on the wiki that don't meet the current [[Help:Style/Formatting_special_articles#Saved_posts|Style Guide standards]] for saved posts. Most of them are being moved to the "/saved posts" subpage of relevant questlines, and I am updating any broken links made as a result of these moves. I didn't want to worry you with the sudden rearranging of data and related page deletion since they include a few of the saved posts that you have archived with your ongoing efforts to preserve game history. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 11:40, 21 July 2022 (CDT)

=== Wood Rarity Template Links ===

[[User talk:WINTERDAWN]]: Hi, WINTERDAWN. I just wanted to give you a head's up on why I reverted your changes to [[Template:Wood_Rarity_and_Use]] to remove the redlined links added. The additional links were all to existing real world trees that are not unique to Elanthia. While it is certainly fine for someone to eventually make pages for individual trees and add those links back in to the template, none of the trees with redlined links had anything unique to them in an Elanthian setting apart from their real world equivalents. Hopefully that helps clarify! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:43, 26 July 2022 (CDT)

=== Merchant NPC Pages ===

[[User_talk:ECHEAUX]]: Hi, ECHEAUX. Thank you for your many contributions to the wiki! Getting a lot of the information related to the ongoing Ebon Gate festival out there while it is still running is a big help to other players. Just as a head's up, I have reverted some of the updates you made to various merchant NPC pages. These are largely restricted to where historical information was removed, such as festival venues or various towns where the merchants have worked. I wanted to drop you a note to explain why those changes were reverted so that you weren't surprised by them.

I also have a question regarding the recent updates that you made to [[Template:Merchants]] and related updates to various merchant NPC pages. Looking at the template, it seems like the "venue" section is now much more restricted than before, limited to only a very small list of festivals instead of being more free form as it was in the past. Is that intended or just an oversight? We have so many different festival venues that limiting which ones the template could be used for seems counterproductive, especially if it means that historical information is not preserved. It also looks like you have added a "town" as a new section, which can only have one entry. Is "town" intended to be the merchant's home town? Or is it intended to be the town they most often work in among the various towns they frequent? Thank you for any insight you can offer. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:56, 26 October 2022 (CDT)

=== Works in Progress ===
[[User_talk:ECHEAUX]]: Hi there, ECHEAUX. I am slowly working through patrols of item script page updates, which I know you focused heavily on late last year. It looks like on several of them, mostly ones from October and November, you included the work-in-progress template to indicate you are still working on the pages, however many of them do not appear to have any recent updates in the past month+. While I don't believe these are all of them, they include [[AYRWT?]], [[Flask belt]], [[Ritualistic tool]], and a few others that look like they were from last year's Ebon Gate festival. Are you still actively working on some of these pages? If not, I'll remove the WIP template as I do the patrols to let other users know they are open for editing again. Thanks again for everything you do to help add to the wiki! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:29, 10 January 2023 (CST)
:I have responded to your question on my [[User_talk:ECHEAUX#Works_in_Progress|discussion page]].[[User:ECHEAUX|ECHEAUX]] ([[User talk:ECHEAUX|talk]]) 10:59, 10 January 2023 (CST)
::I have responded to your response :) [[User:ECHEAUX|ECHEAUX]] ([[User talk:ECHEAUX|talk]]) 11:57, 10 January 2023 (CST)

=== Page Moves ===
[[User talk:ECHEAUX]]: Hi, ECHEAUX. I noticed that when you set up the item script page for the [[Grooming locket]], you did so by moving one of your test/sandbox pages with a substantial edit history to the current page. In doing so, that also had the the effect of moving the entire page history for your test page, which included a large number of edits stemming from when you were testing out formatting for other item scripts unrelated to the Grooming locket. While the wiki team is very glad that you're using your test/sandbox pages to try out new things, the best practice in this instance would be to just cut and paste the source code from your test page into a newly created item page instead of moving it from your sandbox if there are unrelated edits in the test page's history. I know that you're very well versed in wiki use at this point, but if you'd like, I can help with that process for the Grooming locket page. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:49, 7 February 2023 (CST)
:Responded [[User:ECHEAUX|ECHEAUX]] ([[User talk:ECHEAUX|talk]]) 12:32, 7 February 2023 (CST)

===Talk Pages vs Articles===

[[User talk:WINTERDAWN]]: Hi, WINTERDAWN. I am reaching out to you because I am reverting back the edits on [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]] to include the full text of the letter instead of omitting portions of it. Could you help me understand why you removed portions of the letter? I understand that you also put the log of the letter being read aloud in game on the page's Talk page. However, the purpose of a Talk page is to provide notes about the main article, such as indicating permission to share something on behalf of another person, sharing incomplete research information, or asking a question/seeking clarification about the text of an article. Talk pages are not intended to be used as supplementary articles, nor should articles omit relevant information for the sake of sharing it on a Talk page. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:42, 8 February 2023 (CST)

:So there are two separate authors here: myself and WBURKE.

:When I first came across the letter as relayed by Cordarius, in user LEAFIARA's log, I thought, "this is very useful information that should probably be more accessible than in the middle of a log." However, it was late, and I was not necessarily wanting to embark on a lengthy project at the time, and so I literally just copy/pasted it into a separate wiki page (the awkwardly named one I marked for deletion).

:Soon after this, user WBURKE created a page to document the information relayed by that letter. The desire of my page was "here's the log so it's easier to find, maybe it'll be made nicer one day." The desire of their page was to focus on the specific points of interest in that letter. My focus was "here's the letter in full" while their focus was "here's the bullet points with regards to the Empire and Wehnimer's Landing." What they created is what I wanted the log to eventually turn into.

:I still felt it useful to have the log around, though, and so dumped it on the discussion page as I don't know where else to put it.

:As an aside, based on how this wiki is used, both in the past and currently, I feel that the discussion page is a fine spot for these types of things. On other wikis yes, you can have very lengthy conversations about the topics you listed, but that just doesn't really happen here on this one.

:Based on those guidelines we would need to move this content: [[Talk:Sanctify (330)]] and [[Talk:Introduction to the Confluence#The Mentor Event Itself]]. I feel that these bits, that are relevant to their pages, would detract from the pages themselves if added. The Sanctify content would just muddy the page and the Confluence content has no relevance on the guide itself. The Sanctify content would be easy enough to break out into it's own guide I guess, and I guess the Confluence content could just be added to my user page or something. /shrug

:Anyways, just my thoughts. At the end of the day you're the boss on this stuff so I acquiesce to what you feel is best :)

:[[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 16:58, 8 February 2023 (CST)

::Hi, WINTERDAWN. I am not ignoring your query; I am waiting on a response from the larger wiki team about how to approach this specific scenario. Generally speaking, any article's Talk page is not an appropriate venue for archiving important information. If the information is completed research, elaboration on topics contained within an article, or relevant log excerpts, that information should be on a main wiki article, not on a Talk page. Depending on what that information consists of, it could either be on the primary article itself or on a different article that is explicitly created to delve into a more complex concept.
::In the case of [[Talk:Sanctify (330)]], the information presented on it would be best in a main article and not on a Talk page; looking at the content, it does seem appropriate for a 330 guide article, as you pointed out (see [[Help:Style#User pages]]). In the case of [[Talk:Introduction to the Confluence]], this appears to be a log excerpt and would be appropriate for a page that is set up as an event log - in the format of "YYYY-MM-DD - Log Title (log)" (as per [[Help:Style/Formatting special articles#Logs]]). However, as the main page itself appears to be set up as a guide, which appears to be drawn from the log itself (or vice versa), it should adhere to the standards of creating a guide. My general recommendation would be to preserve an entire log, including the introduction that is currently on the Talk page as well as any followup questions to the presentation, as a log article and then maintain the existing article as a guide with the information presented as is. That said, because the log excerpt that was retained on the Talk page does not appear to contain information vital to the article itself or further elaboration on the information presented in it, I also don't see an issue with keeping it as is for this specific case.
::In the case of [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]], which led to this conversation, given the nature of this specific article as well as the duplicate information between it and the article [[Protectorate]], I am waiting on confirmation on how best to handle it before taking any further action. Unless another mod or GM weighs in before me, it will likely not be until next week that I can relay the final determination. I appreciate your patience and understanding with this. While the GS wiki does not get anywhere near as much traffic or use as Wikipedia, that does not mean that the GS wiki does not have its standards for how pages, including Talk pages, should be used. Those standards are also continually evolving as more content is added, and what may have been considered fine two years ago may have have updated standards today. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:40, 9 February 2023 (CST)
:::Hello again, WINTERDAWN. After consulting with the wiki team, I have adjusted [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]] to show the previous version of the text instead of the log. I have transcluded the identically presented information from [[Protectorate]] onto [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]]. I have updated text on the page to link to the log excerpt on [[Protectorate]] instead of referencing the article's talk page. I have also updated the article's Talk page to remove the previously saved log excerpt, to clarify what its purpose is, and to direct anyone viewing it to [[Protectorate#5123]], which is where the complete log excerpt is located. Again, to reiterate, the purpose of Talk pages is to facilitate discussion about an article, such as questions about an article, incomplete research, or citing when permission was granted to post on behalf of another person. They are not intended to serve as articles themselves. Logs and completed research should be either incorporated into the main article or in a supplementary article. Hopefully this helps clear up any confusion for you. Thank you again for your patience as I worked to resolve this. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:13, 14 February 2023 (CST)

::::Alright, thank you for this information and checking into things :) I'll work on the two pages I mentioned (and any others I come across later) as soon as I can. [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 05:18, 15 February 2023 (CST)

===Third Party Software===
[[User talk:GS4ALASTIR]]: Hi, GS4ALASTIR. I have followed up with the wiki team on a few recent edits that you made related to third-party software documentation on the wiki. Specifically, I am referring to the subpages you created associated with both [[Script Bigshot]] documentation and the main [[Script Eloot]] article. The wiki policy for documenting Lich software is viewable on [[Help:Style#Lich_information]]. You will need to get staff approval before creating any new Lich script pages or subpages by contacting the [mailto:gs4-wiki@play.net GSWiki email address]. (It is perfectly fine to continue to make edits to existing Lich script pages or subpages.) I will be taking the following steps:
* I am reverting the recent edits that you made to the [[Script Bigshot]] page to restore the information that was removed from it and moved onto the different subpages. Those subpages are:
** [[Script Bigshot/Profile tab]]
** [[Script Bigshot/Resting tab]]
** [[Script Bigshot/Hunting tab]]
** [[Script Bigshot/Attacking tab]]
** [[Script Bigshot/Commands tab]]
** [[Script Bigshot/Monitoring tab]]
** [[Script Bigshot/Misc tab]]
* I am adding a template on each of the Script Bigshot subpages noting that they are marked for deletion.
* I will be deleting each of the Script Bigshot subpages a week from today.
* I am adding a template onto the [[Script Eloot]] page noting that it is marked for deletion.
* I will be deleting [[Script Eloot]] a week from today.
* I am reverting the recent edits that you made to [[:Template:Third-Party Software]], which added a link and reference to the Script Eloot page.
Some of the information that you put onto the Script Bigshot subpages appears to be updated from how it was originally presented on the main article. I want to make sure that you have the opportunity to save or move that back on to the main approved script article before the subpages are permanently deleted. I also want to make sure that you have the same opportunity to save the information you wrote for the Script Eloot page. If you have any questions, please let me or another mod know, either via talk page or by asking on the official Discord server. Thanks for understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:27, 21 March 2023 (CDT)

===Character Vignettes===
[[User talk:LORDROELET]]: Hi there, LORDROELET. I wanted to let you know why I moved your [[Roelon (prime)/Vignette: Plea to the Wsalamir|Plea to the Wsalamir vignette]] back to where you had originally placed it on the wiki. The [[Help:Storyline guidelines#Character Vignettes|storyline guidelines]] were recently updated to address how character vignettes should be posted to the wiki, largely because most character vignettes were shared in response to storylines. Moving forward, their articles should be set up in the format of:
:<code><nowiki>Character name (instance)/Vignette name</nowiki></code>
In addition, they should not use the [[:Template:Creative-work#Character Vignettes|creative-work]] template as character vignettes are considered a form of "off screen roleplay" instead of a creative work like a poem or short story being told by a character. Thank you for sharing your character's vignettes on the wiki. If you have any questions, the best place to ask is on the Official GS Wiki discussion thread in the Discord forum's Help section. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:54, 5 April 2023 (CDT)

===Third Party Software and Scripts===
[[User talk:RINUALDO]]: Hi there, RINUALDO. I have followed up with the wiki team on some new articles you made associated with Lich script documentation. Specifically, I am referring to [[Script foreach]] and [[Script invdb]], which were made last week, plus [[Script Ebounty]], which was made late last year. The wiki policy for documenting Lich software is viewable on [[Help:Style#Lich_information]]. I have confirmed with the wiki team that permission was not given in advance of these articles being created. You will need to get staff approval before creating any new Lich script articles or subarticles by contacting the [mailto:gs4-wiki@play.net GSWiki email address]. (It is perfectly fine to continue to make edits to existing Lich script articles or subarticles.) I am taking the following steps:
* I am adding a template on all three pages noting that they are marked for deletion:
** [[Script foreach]]
** [[Script invdb]]
** [[Script Ebounty]]
* I will delete all three pages one week from today.
I understand that you are active in helping maintain the existing approved third party software articles so that they are accurate and easy to understand for the community. I want to make sure that you have the opportunity to save the information you wrote for the above three articles should they be approved for creation again at a later date. If you have any questions, please let me or another mod know, either via talk page or by asking on the official Discord server. Thank you for understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:03, 18 April 2023 (CDT)
:Putting stuff on talk pages with no way for a user to know that something exists unless they go to the wiki daily is a terrible, terrible way to communicate about deleting something with a timer.
:Can you please clarify "I have confirmed with the wiki team that permission was not given in advance of these articles being created" who you clarified this with?
::Hello again, RINUALDO. I am following up on your question from yesterday about the three articles you created for lich scripts. I did alert the wiki team of your message to me when you added it, and I am aware that staff were able to talk with you on Discord afterward and confirm that you did indeed have prior authorization for the invdb and foreach script articles.
::I would like to apologize on behalf of the wiki team for incorrectly flagging the [[Script foreach]] and [[Script invdb]] articles as not authorized. I am reverting my edits to both of those articles where I had added the delete template, and I am also putting a note on their respective Discussion tabs so that there is no confusion in the future. Unfortunately, the [[Script Ebounty]] article was not approved in advance of it being created, so I do need to delete it when the seven day window has concluded. Thank you for your patience and understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:37, 20 April 2023 (CDT)

The ebounty page was intended in the prior approval that was released. It was referenced in the email request, which I could have been more specific. As this has gone to Feedback, please do not delete anything until the issue is resolved.
:Hi, RINUALDO. I have relayed your message to me on my talk page to the wiki team . Also, just as an FYI if it is helpful, if you want to add on your user name and a timestamp of an edit to the end of the message, it is possible to do so with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:46, 25 April 2023 (CDT)
::Hi again, RINUALDO. I wanted to update you on the three articles I previously reached out to you about. I have removed the delete template and renamed the article for [[Lich:Script Ebounty]] to conform with the updated guidelines for Lich scripts on the wiki. I have also moved both [[Lich:Script invdb]] and [[Lich:Script foreach]] for the same reason. All three articles will need the forthcoming lich header template added to them once the template has been finalized. Thank you for your patience and understanding as the wiki guidelines continue to evolve. I appreciate your continued efforts to add documentation to the wiki to help other players better enjoy the game. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:23, 23 May 2023 (CDT)

===Thaumaturge Tome Script===
[[User talk:ALLENM20]]: Hello, ALLENM20. I am following up with you on behalf of the wiki team. I know that MOD-GSMOTTE already reached out to you about the [[Lich:Thaumaturge Tome Script]] article that you previously wrote. In light of the updates to the wiki standards for lich script pages, the script article is now permitted on the wiki. I have moved the article so that its title properly conforms with these new standards (which adds Lich: at the start of the article title). The article will need to be updated with the forthcoming lich script template as soon as it is released. Thank you for your patience and understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:18, 30 May 2023 (CDT)

===Character Vignettes===
[[User talk:HALEM20]]: Hi again, HALEM20. Thank you for doing so many updates to help record events in the recent and ongoing Platinum storylines. I noticed that you recently added two character vignettes related to the [[:Category:What Lurks in the Dark|What Lurks in the Dark]] storyline that do not appear to be linked to your account based on prior edits to their respective character pages. If you are uploading vignettes on behalf of another player, you will need to very clearly state that on the Discussion tab for each page. The two vignettes are [[Jaired (platinum)/Loose Ends]] and [[Oliviero (platinum)/Interruption]]. To add that information, you will just need to click on the Discussion tab at the top of each article and note that you have permission to upload them. I recommend adding <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> to the end of it to make sure that you have a clear account/date/timestamp applied afterward. Thank you for understanding! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:17, 19 June 2023 (CDT)
:Hello, HALEM20. I previously reached out to you about two character vignettes related to the [[:Category:What Lurks in the Dark|What Lurks in the Dark]] storyline that you added to the wiki for characters that did not appear to be yours, based on prior edits to their respective character pages. I see that Oliviero's player did confirm that permission was given to upload [[Oliviero (platinum)/Interruption]] to the wiki, however there is still no indication that Jaired's player gave permission to upload [[Jaired (platinum)/Loose Ends]]. GSwiki has recently updated its copyright policy with regard to posting works created by another person. I have flagged the "Interruption" vignette for not being in compliance with the updated [[Gswiki:Policy]] for [[GSwiki:Policy#Copyrights|Copyrights]] on works created by someone other than the uploader. A statement that the vignette was uploaded with permission by the author must be added to the vignette's [[Talk:Jaired (platinum)/Loose Ends|Discussion tab]]. '''If that is not added within 7 days, it will be deleted from the wiki.''' If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for copyrights on articles, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926|Discord forum's wiki thread]. Thank you for your understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:34, 13 July 2023 (CDT)

=== Blanked Article===
[[User talk:PAELA]]: Hi there, PAELA. I noticed that you created two articles for your vignette, "Disturbing News", and then went back and deleted all of the text on the duplicate article. The one that still has text is [[Agathilea (prime)/Disturbing News]] while the one that has had all text removed is [[Agathilea (prime)/Disturbing News/Disturbing News]]. Did you remove all the text because you wanted the second article to be deleted? Putting <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki> on an article is the best way to let a wiki Mod know that the page was created in error and should be deleted from the wiki instead of just removing all of the text on it. If that is what you would like to be done, please add the delete template to the article so another mod or I can remove it for you. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:14, 9 August 2023 (CDT)

===Recent Edits===
[[User talk:LUXELLE]]: Hi there, LUXELLE. I'd like to thank you for your many contributions to the wiki, especially for your guides to help other players better enjoy the various festivals and events in game. I know that you frequently collaborate with other players to write some of your guides. Another user recently made some edits to one of your guides, [[Duskruin primer]], that I was not sure were intended by you or your team. They do not appear to be malicious in nature, however I did want to reach out to you about if they were intended to be part of the article. The edits are a new section at the end of the article, [[Duskruin primer#All the big credit givings|All the big credit givings]]. If these edits were not intended by you or your team, either you can delete them or you can let me know and another mod or I would be happy to delete them for you. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:26, 16 August 2023 (CDT)

===Images and Article Edits at Risk for Deletion===
[[User talk:CELLORA]]: Hi there, CELLORA. In reviewing some recent updates to the wiki, I saw that you have made quite a few edits to [[Sorlu (prime)]], which appears to be a character page for someone else's character. There is no indication anywhere that Sorlu's player gave you permission to create or edit a character page on their behalf. [[Gswiki:Policy]] prohibits users from editing character pages unless the character is theirs or they have been given permission by that character's player to make those edits. If you do have permission to edit Sorlu's character page, you will need to indicate this by clearly stating it on its Discussion/Talk tab, [[Talk:Sorlu (prime)]], that you have been given permission to do so by his player. Alternatively, Sorlu's player can put that information on the discussion page. When adding that information, please make sure to add <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end of your comments, which will automatically add a "signature" with your user name, plus the date and time of when your edit was made.

In addition, there are a couple of images that I have flagged, all of which appear related to the same character article. I think I understand what is going on with the images but would appreciate some clarification from you if my understanding is correct.
* [[:File:Nalfein Crest.png]] - This image appears to be a duplicate of [[:File:A Nalfein Crest.png]]. It is not used on any articles. An earlier edit by you to the file noted you as being the creator.
* [[:File:A Nalfein Crest.png]] - This image appears on [[Sorlu (prime)]]. This image notes Sorlu as being the creator, as does the caption you added to Sorlu's character page.
Can you confirm who created the image? It appears that Sorlu's player created it, you erroneously placed your name on "Nalfein Crest" then removed it, then reuploaded the image crediting Sorlu. Is that accurate? If so, I will delete the first duplicate file as it is not used anywhere.
* [[:File:Nalfein Crest 3.png]] - This image appears to be a duplicate of [[:File:Rotting Nalfein Cret.png]]. It is not used on any articles. This image notes you as being the creator, not Sorlu's player.
* [[:File:Rotting Nalfein Cret.png]] This image appears on [[Sorlu (prime)]]. This image notes Sorlu as being the creator, as does the caption you added to Sorlu's character page.
Can you confirm who created the image? It appears that this is a similar situation as the above two images, where you first listed yourself as the creator then re-uploaded the image listing Sorlu as the creator. If that is the case, I will delete the first duplicate file as it is not used anywhere.

In all cases, '''If that information is not added within 7 days, your edits to the character page and the impacted images will be deleted from the wiki.''' Thank you very much for clearly taking steps to fully credit images, not just who created them but also if permission was granted to upload them. That is a big help for moderators like me as we review edits to the wiki. If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for editing character pages, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926%7CDiscord forum's wiki thread]. Thank you for understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 11:02, 29 August 2023 (CDT)

Hello! Yes, I made a mistake on the images and couldn't figure out how to fix it without uploading new ones. If you could please delete the first ones, that would be great! He created them. I'm still figuring out the flagging and all of that for the wiki. I will add a note on the page that he gave me permission to create the page as well. [[User:CELLORA|CELLORA]] ([[User talk:CELLORA|talk]]) 12:59, 29 August 2023 (CDT)

===Article/Edits at Risk for Deletion===
[[User talk:DASLOONIX]]: Hi again, DASLOONIX. In reviewing some recent updates to the wiki, I saw that you have made quite a few edits to [[Sorlu (prime)]], which appears to be a character page for someone else's character. There is no indication anywhere that Sorlu's player gave you permission to create or edit a character page on their behalf. [[Gswiki:Policy]] prohibits users from editing character pages unless the character is theirs or they have been given permission by that character's player to make those edits. If you do have permission to edit Sorlu's character page, you will need to indicate this by clearly stating it on its Discussion/Talk tab, [[Talk:Sorlu (prime)]], that you have been given permission to do so by his player. Alternatively, Sorlu's player can put that information on the discussion page. When adding that information, please make sure to add <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end of your comments, which will automatically add a "signature" with your user name, plus the date and time of when your edit was made. '''If that information is not added within 7 days, your edits to that article will be deleted from the wiki.''' If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for editing character pages, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926%7CDiscord forum's wiki thread]. Thank you for understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 11:02, 29 August 2023 (CDT)

===Images and Article Edits at Risk for Deletion===
[[User talk:CHADDEAUX]]: Hello, CHADDEAUX. I am reaching out to you about two things.

First, a few years ago you created and edited a character page article, [[Dirvy (prime)]], which has since then been edited by another user. There is no indication anywhere that Dirvy's player gave you permission to create or edit a character page on their behalf. [[Gswiki:Policy]] prohibits users from creating or editing character pages unless the character is theirs or they have been given permission by that character's player to make those edits. If you do have permission to edit Dirvy's character page, you will need to indicate this by clearly stating it on its Discussion/Talk tab, [[Talk:Dirvy (prime)]], that you have been given permission to do so by her player. Alternatively, Dirvy's player can put that information on the discussion page. When adding that information, please make sure to add <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end of your comments, which will automatically add a "signature" with your user name, plus the date and time of when your edit was made.

Second, you previously uploaded three images to the wiki which are missing some required information. GSwiki now has a new policy for all images uploaded to it. Please see [[Gswiki:Policy#Copyrights]] for more information about that policy and the requirement to note image creators, what AI imaging software was used (if any), and if permission was granted by the creator to upload the image to the wiki.
* [[:File:Dirvy Britbane medium.jpg]] - Thank you for already stating that Stormyrain created this artwork. You will need to add whether Stormyrain also gave you permission to upload the image onto the wiki. This information will need to be noted both on the image file as well as all articles displaying it.
* [[:File:Dirvy by Flimbo.jpg]] - Thank you for already stating that Flimbo created this artwork. You will need to add whether Flimbo also gave you permission to upload the image onto the wiki. This information will need to be noted both on the image file as well as all articles displaying it.
* [[:File:Zailon.png]] - Thank you for already stating that Flimbo created this artwork. You will need to add whether Flimbo also gave you permission to upload the image onto the wiki. This information will need to be noted both on the image file as well as all articles displaying it.
In all cases for the character page and the three images, '''if the required information is not added within 7 days, the edits to the character page and the images will be deleted from the wiki.''' If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for images, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926%7CDiscord forum's wiki thread]. Thank you for understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:50, 17 October 2023 (CDT)

===Images and Article Edits at Risk for Deletion===
[[User talk:TWILSON]]: Hello, TWILSON. I am reaching out to you about two things.

First, you recently edited a character page article, [[Dirvy (prime)]], which was originally created and edited by another user. There is no indication anywhere that Dirvy's player gave you permission to create or edit a character page on their behalf. [[Gswiki:Policy]] prohibits users from creating or editing character pages unless the character is theirs or they have been given permission by that character's player to make those edits. If you do have permission to edit Dirvy's character page, you will need to indicate this by clearly stating it on its Discussion/Talk tab, [[Talk:Dirvy (prime)]], that you have been given permission to do so by her player. Alternatively, Dirvy's player can put that information on the discussion page. When adding that information, please make sure to add <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end of your comments, which will automatically add a "signature" with your user name, plus the date and time of when your edit was made.

Second, you recently uploaded an image to the wiki, [[:File:Dirvy gencraft image.jpg]], which is missing some required information. GSwiki now has a new policy for all images uploaded to it. Please see [[Gswiki:Policy#Copyrights]] for more information about that policy and the requirement to note image creators, what AI imaging software was used (if any), and if permission was granted by the creator to upload the image to the wiki. Images using AI software in their creation are also required to be included in [[:Category:AI artwork]] Thank you for already noting that it was created using AI software. You will need to add who created the image and, if that person is not you, if you had permission to upload it to the wiki. This information will need to be noted both on the image file as well as any articles displaying it.

In all cases for the character page and the image, '''if the required information is not added within 7 days, the edits to the character page and the image will be deleted from the wiki.''' If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for images, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926%7CDiscord forum's wiki thread]. Thank you for understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:49, 17 October 2023 (CDT)

===Blanked article===
[[User talk:GS4ALASTIR]]: Hi there, GS4ALASTIR. I noticed that you created an article for [[Emberthorn Refuge]] with a lot of information on it then shortly afterward went back and removed all of the text. Are you trying to have the article deleted? If so, placing <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki> on an article flags it for mods to review for deletion. Thanks again for your many contributions! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 11:25, 12 September 2023 (CDT)

===Short Story Question===

[[User talk:CHIVERSFREE1]]: Hello, CHIVERSFREE1. The wiki team is currently working on some updates for the style guide as it relates to various types of creative works, including short stories and vignettes. This includes better defining what different creative works are so that they are better reflected with the creative-works template, article titles, etc., to help out both contributors and other players accessing the wiki. I know that you have been working on several lengthy articles, such as [[The Reckoning (short story)]], which might span several categories of creative works. I was hoping that you could share some insight on how you have approached writing articles like it.

You have "The Reckoning" labeled as a short story with the creative-works template. It appears to be a series of glimpses into off-screen/out-of-game roleplay focusing on your character as opposed to a short story written or shared by your character or set within Elanthia in general. Would you feel that is accurate - that it is more a lengthy series of off-screen vignettes as opposed to a formal short story? It also appears that there are sometimes contributions by other authors, such as chapters where Rohese and Mirkk are having a conversation or actively doing things together. Is "The Reckoning" retelling events that have taken place in game in a prose format (as opposed to a log format)? In some ways, it seems like it might almost be a [[Help:Storyline guidelines#Player-Run Storylines|player-run storyline]] focusing on Rohese's personal growth and evolution.

Thank you in advance for any insight you can offer. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:33, 3 October 2023 (CDT)

===Duplicate Logs===
[[User talk:TUMARA]]: Hi there, TUMARA. You recently added two logs that appear to be identical to the wiki. Can you please clarify which one you intended to keep? You can do this by editing the duplicate log that you want deleted and adding <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki> somewhere on that log article. That flags it for a mod to delete. The two logs are:
* [[The Heads Rolled (Battle Log)]]
* [[The Heads Rolled--Battle Log]]
I will update the one you intended to keep with the correct log title once you have identified it. It will end up as titled "Evermore Hollow - 2023-10-23 - The Heads Rolled Battle (log)", per [[Gswiki:Style guide/Formatting special articles#Logs]]. If you do not note which article you prefer to keep within 7 days, then I will delete the newer article and keep the older one. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:35, 31 October 2023 (CDT)

===Uploaded Images and Captions===
[[User talk:PTOLEMY]]: Hello, PTOLEMY. I have updated the image captions for all new images you added to your character page, [[Jaysehn (prime)]]. GSwiki now has a new policy for all images uploaded to it. Please see [[Gswiki:Policy#AI-Generated Artwork]] for more information about that policy and how it pertains to any images created with AI imaging software. AI generated images cannot be noted as copyrighted, and the captions displaying AI generated images must reflect the same information as what you indicated in their file uploads. I have already updated the captions based on information you provided with the uploaded files, however please keep this in mind with any future use of them or other AI-generated images. In addition, I have also already added the required [[:Category:AI artwork]] for all of your recently uploaded images. If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for images, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926%7CDiscord forum's wiki thread]. Thank you for your help with this process. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:08, 7 November 2023 (CST)

===Duplicate Article===
[[User talk:PTOLEMY]]: Hello, PTOLEMY. You recently created two identical articles, [[Paid in Full]] and [[Jaysehn (prime)/Reflections/Paid in Full]]. I suspect that the second is the article you intended to create and the first was made in error, due to the second following the Style Guide's standards for personal vignettes. Can you please confirm which duplicate should be deleted? This can be done by editing the one you wish deleted and putting in the <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki> template anywhere on the article. If I do not hear any response from you in one week, I will mark [[Paid in Full]] with the delete template for mod review and deletion. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:45, 13 December 2023 (CST)

===Images and Article Edits at Risk for Deletion===

[[User talk:PTOLEMY]]:Hi, PTOLEMY. I'm reaching out to you about a couple of things.

First, I'm contacting you about the recent images that you have uploaded to the wiki. The requirements for posting images to the wiki has changed this past year. Please see [[Gswiki:Policy#Copyrights]] for more information about that policy and the requirement to note image creators, what AI imaging software was used (if any), and if permission was granted by the creator to upload the image to the wiki. In addition, all images using AI generating software are required to include <nowiki>[[Category:AI artwork]]</nowiki> on the files themselves. I have edited all but two of the files that you have uploaded to include this, however in the future if this continues to be omitted, I will begin flagging those files for moderater review/deletion. This text should be added as part of the image file description when you upload it, or edited it into the image file description after uploading. The two files I have not edited to include this information are outlined in the next paragraph.

Second, you recently edited a character page, [[Hadya (prime)]], which has been maintained by another user. There is no indication anywhere that Hadya's player gave you permission to edit a character page on their behalf. [[Gswiki:Policy]] prohibits users from creating or editing character pages unless the character is theirs or they have been given permission by that character's player to make those edits. If you do have permission to edit Hadya's character page, you will need to indicate this by clearly stating it on its Discussion tab, [[Talk:Hadya (prime)]], that you have been given permission to do so by her player. Alternatively, Hadya's player can put that information on the discussion tab. When adding that information, please make sure to add <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end of your comments, which will automatically add a "signature" with your user name, plus the date and time of when your edit was made. I am flagging the edits you made to this article as well as the two images you uploaded for it as not following [[Gswiki:Policy]] requiring permission from the character's player. The two impacted images are [[:File:Hadya AI Ptolemy.jpg]] and [[:File:HadyaSummons AI Ptolemy.jpg]]. These two images are also missing the required <nowiki>[[Category:AI artwork]]</nowiki>.

'''If that information is not added within 7 days, these images and article edits will be deleted from the wiki.''' Please do not remove the <nowiki>{{moddelete}}</nowiki> template from the images and article displaying them. Another moderator or I will remove that template after your updates have been reviewed to ensure that they meet [[Gswiki:Policy]] requirements. If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for images, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926 Discord forum's wiki thread]. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:25, 20 December 2023 (CST)

===Duplicate Images===
[[User talk:LYSTRA]]: Hi there, LYSTRA. You recently uploaded two images to the wiki that appear to be duplicates of one another except with slightly different resolutions. The two image files are [[:File:Fyg-kitten.png]] (1024x1024 pixels) and [[:File:Fyg-kitten1.png]] (500x500 pixels). Can you please let me know which of the two you had intended to keep on the wiki and which is the duplicate that should be deleted? I will remove the duplicate image. You can let me or another moderator know by adding <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki> to the image file that was uploaded in error, or you can respond here. If I do not hear back from you in one week, I will flag the image with the lower resolution for mod review and deletion. In addition, all images using AI software in their creation are required to be included in [[:Category:AI artwork]]. To add that text to an image file, you will need to click on "Edit Source" on the image file itself and add <nowiki>[[Category:AI artwork]]</nowiki>. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:01, 20 December 2023 (CST)
:[[:File_talk:Fyg-kitten1.png]]: This image appears to be a lower resolution duplicate of [[:File:Fyg-kitten.png]] and is not used on any articles. It will be deleted in favor of the higher resolution image unless the uploader requests that this image be kept and the higher resolution image be deleted instead. Uploader originally contacted on 12/20/23 regarding the existence of a duplicate image and informed of this next step. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:06, 27 December 2023 (CST)

===Article Edits at Risk for Deletion===
[[User talk:SWEETLITTLEAGONY]]: Hello, SWEETLITTLEAGONY. In reviewing some recent updates to the wiki, I saw that you have made changes to [[Lissaya (prime)]], which appears to be a character page for someone else's character as the article was originally created by a different account. There is no indication anywhere that Lissaya's player gave you permission to edit a character page on their behalf. [[Gswiki:Policy]] prohibits users from editing character pages unless the character is theirs or they have been given permission by that character's player to make those edits. If you do have permission to edit Lissaya's character page, you will need to indicate this by clearly stating it on its Discussion tab, [[Talk:Lissaya (prime)]], that you have been given permission to do so by her player. Alternatively, Lissaya's player can put that information on the discussion page. When adding that information, please make sure to add <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end of your comments, which will automatically add a "signature" with your user name, plus the date and time of when your edit was made. '''If that information is not added within 7 days, your edits to that article will be deleted from the wiki.''' If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for editing character pages, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926 Discord forum's wiki thread]. Thank you for understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:49, 20 December 2023 (CST)

== Uploaded Image Patrol ==

Moved to [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET/Image patrols]].

== Elanthian Journals ==

By chance are you able to see the old Elanthian Journal pages that were deleted? I just realized.. one thing I never did is check each one to see what linked to them. I just found a page that linked to a Journal :| [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 16:52, 12 August 2022 (CDT)
:Unfortunately, no. Once a page is deleted, it is gone-gone. However, I was able to pull up a list of broken links and adjusted seven pages that appeared to reference the old Elanthian Journal pages. That should hopefully have caught any others that were overlooked! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:45, 16 August 2022 (CDT)
::Thank you for this! Sorry for the extra work. [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 15:44, 16 August 2022 (CDT)
:::Very welcome! Thank you for bringing up the potential of broken links. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:14, 17 August 2022 (CDT)

== Merchants template ==

I cobbled that template together in 2019, as a pet project, when things were a little more relaxed. So many people were "remember that one merchant? Where were they?? What did they look like??", that it felt like a good addition. Anyway, it was a build based on a template someone else had done, as you've likely read. I had planned on continuing work on it, then COVID hit and I turned into a homeschool teacher for two young teenagers.

Venues: the primary reason I changed those venues was because it was putting so many merchants into categories that didn't exist, and may not have been the best one for them to go into ''at the time''. By restricting category to "wandering" and others that already had a category made, it cut down on "red links"; '''wandering''' moved them into a common category and could be changed later. '''Generally speaking''', if they had a mention in their blurb as to what venue they attended, I removed the category that was causing a red link, although any that did not were likely an oversight (the notable exception being Elsia - I forgot to research her item, '''Fancy Coats''', so I could add the venue).

Towns: it was my intention to adapt the template to allow them to be placed into the category '''for that town'''. An example would be citizen-only merchants such as Duvernith or Davro. I admittedly got wrapped up in EG item-adding and had not gotten back to fixing the "town" venue to populate into town pages instead of '''Town''' NPCs, a category that doesn't exist, so I just left town uncategorized for the time being.

Many of those merchants I added myself with no real idea of what venues they had visited, in that hopes of at least having an appearance and a basic blurb to be expanded upon later. I had intended to continue with the work after EG and add category pages where appropriate. That section of the template might get pretty long for particularly industrious merchants! '''Wandering''' seemed like a good fit if they didn't have what might be considered a "primary festival" (for example, I wouldn't be surprised to see Elusionari in a lot of places!).

That said, I get that once you add a template, you basically lose any claim to it being "yours". However, no one else really took an interest in it, and I was told it would need work anyway, so I figured I was all right to try to adapt it to '''not''' use non-existent categories for the time being, since many (most?) of them had venue linked in the blurb or the body of the article. (TL:DR yet? LOL)[[User:ECHEAUX|ECHEAUX]] ([[User talk:ECHEAUX|talk]]) 12:09, 26 October 2022 (CDT)

== Table updates ==

Hello! As I'm sure you've noticed, I've been going through and updating older items to the newer templates. A lot of them are simple, but some of them require more time; much more time in some cases. For those, fortunately, a lot them are more or less copy and paste for the verb lists with a few minor tweaks. I noticed that on a couple of them you've gone back and added in formatting for data tables for accessibility purposes. I read up on that today and I'll be sure to add that going forward, but I was wondering: Is there a way you are finding those that need it or are you just kind of seeing them as I'm doing them? I'd be more than happy to go back correct the formatting on those, but if there's a way I can find them more "wholesale" than "piecemeal", that would make the job easier. [[User:ECHEAUX|ECHEAUX]] ([[User talk:ECHEAUX|talk]]) 17:40, 9 November 2022 (CST)
:Hi there! Part of my duties as one of our wiki mods are to review recent page changes to ensure that they are appropriate to the wiki, are accurate, are appropriately named as a page or subpage, and that they generally comply with the wiki style guide. So you'll see me doing things like updating pages to use new template standards, moving pages that aren't named properly, fixing redirects or broken links, updating categories, reviewing pages listed in [[:Category:Marked for Deletion]], and similar "moderator" type duties focused on overall wiki consistency that are not expected of general users who instead are adding new content to the wiki. One of the standards set out by the style guide and the wiki team is to ensure that the wiki is as accessible as possible to everyone, including our users who rely on a screen reader. If I run across any pages during my patrols that don't meet current standards, including tables that are not set up in a way for screen readers to properly capture, part of my job as a moderator is to update them accordingly. Since you have been incredibly active on the wiki over the past couple of months, I am much more likely to review your edits than other users due to sheer volume; that's why it might look like I'm going back to change pages you've touched more so than other users. Thanks for inquiring! If you'd like to know more about our moderator team or what our role is, I encourage you to ask on the Gemstone Discord's #wiki-talk channel where one of the GMs overseeing the wiki can chime in. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:11, 10 November 2022 (CST)
::Oh, I understand that. I just wasn't sure if there was an easy way to see pages with certain errors so I could fix those that I missed them on. I can go through my contribution list and do it, though. Thanks for getting back to me![[User:ECHEAUX|ECHEAUX]] ([[User talk:ECHEAUX|talk]]) 10:34, 10 November 2022 (CST)

== Northern Sentinel's Decree==

Hello! My intention with this page was to list only the legal characteristics of the Landing's protectorate status. I deliberately did not want to include the preamble and ending of the letter, as they did not carry legal weight. As such, I would like to revert it to a version which contains only those legal characteristics. In my view, a log page or official document page would be more appropriate for recording the entire letter. [[User:WBURKE1|WBURKE1]] ([[User talk:WBURKE1|talk]])
:Hi, WBURKE1. Thanks for reaching out to me! I am not ignoring your query; I am waiting on a response from the larger wiki team about how to approach this specific scenario with the article [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]]. As I explained to WINTERDAWN, generally speaking an article's Talk page is not an appropriate venue for archiving important information. Given the nature of this specific article as well as the duplicate information between it and the article [[Protectorate]], I am waiting on confirmation on how best to handle it before taking any further action. Unless another mod or GM weighs in before me, it will likely not be until next week that I can relay the final determination. I appreciate your patience and understanding with this. Thank you again for all of your contributions to the wiki. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:40, 9 February 2023 (CST)
::Hello again, WBURKE1. After consulting with the wiki team, I have adjusted [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]] to show the previous version of the text instead of the log. I have transcluded the identically presented information from [[Protectorate]] onto [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]]. I have updated text on the page to link to the log excerpt on [[Protectorate]] instead of referencing the article's talk page. I have also updated the article's Talk page to remove the previously saved log excerpt, to clarify what its purpose is, and to direct anyone viewing it to [[Protectorate#5123]], which is where the complete log excerpt is located. This should help ensure that the intent behind the original page, which is to succinctly state the terms of the Landing's Protectorate status, is maintained while still preserving information. Thank you again for your patience as I worked to resolve this. Please let me know if you have any further questions or concerns. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:13, 14 February 2023 (CST)
:::Thanks for this resolution and for all your hard work! [[User:WBURKE1|WBURKE1]] ([[User talk:WBURKE1|talk]]) 12:39, 14 February 2023 (CST)

== Images ==

They're different images, please look more closely.

== I don't know what I'm doing! ==

Hi, I tried to DM, failed! But found.. this space. And I have no idea if I'm doing it correctly. I READ WHAT YOU WROTE and thank you for what was pointed out I will work on figuring out how to fix it, it just might not be instantly remedied (not too long, just not a finger-snap of time, I'm still figuring stuff out!) -DASLOONIX

== 5mb File Size Down to 2mb ==

I'm noticing that the wiki now has a 2mb file size limit when it used to be 5mb. Is this an unintended result of the recent update or is it intentional? I'm trying to update my OSA maps but the 2mb limit is going to cause a huge loss in quality on them. Thoughts? If it's intentional, perhaps you or an admin could override the setting and post the two maps for me? [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 19:56, 7 January 2024 (CST)
:I do not know about any details related to maximum file size changes. I have relayed your question to the wiki team and will respond on your user talk page when I have more information. While you are welcome to reach out to me (or other mods) with questions like this, you can also ask them on the [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926 Discord forum's wiki thread], where you may receive a faster response. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:08, 9 January 2024 (CST)
::Just checking in :) [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 23:41, 15 January 2024 (CST)

User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET

2024-01-08T01:56:47Z

WINTERDAWN: /* 5mb File Size Down to 2mb */ new section

== Have a question or comment? ==

HOST-GSKEBECHET (talk | contribs) (Added back in the OTS analyze and rearranged a couple things to conform with item script style guide.)

You added back in the Tier 1 analyze in the OTS section. [[User:GS4ALASTIR|GS4ALASTIR]] ([[User talk:GS4ALASTIR|talk]]) 10:46, 25 April 2023 (CDT)

Hello, I added a line that Stormyrain gave permission to use the image of the Sisters on the wiki [[User:STACYWALTER|STACYWALTER]] ([[User talk:STACYWALTER|talk]]) 06:16, 12 October 2023 (CDT)

You're doing great work. Thank you, I appreciate it. [[User:VANKRASN39|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39|talk]]) 11:42, 7 November 2023 (CST)
:Thank you! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]])

Hi, I got your message about the copywrite problems with my image. I created the image myself using Artflow.ai but I have literally no idea how to comply with your request and I can barely even understand it. I cant find the Discord page you linked to either. Could you please walk me through this step by step? I have almost no skill at coding or using the wiki...I created my page by simple cut and paste and rewriting.

Thank you,
Toxyrox

PS if it would be easier on Discord, my username there is Avondell.
:Thank you very much! I have responded on your talk page.[[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:37, 15 November 2023 (CST)

== Cross-posts of user:talk notes ==

=== Animalistic Spirit Shield iteminfo ===

[[User_talk:GS4ALASTIR]]: Hi, Alastir. Thank you very much for contributing so many different things to the various item script pages! Just as a head's up, I rolled back one of your changes made a while ago to the [[Animalistic_Spirit_Shield|Animalistic Spirit Shield]] page, where you had accidentally removed the iteminfo section. I have added back in the iteminfo section so that it properly displays; it's actually an important template to keep in place for scripted items as it helps populate other categories on the wiki, making it easier to cross-reference related things. Thanks for understanding! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:55, 21 June 2022 (CDT)

=== Category: Marked for Deletion ===

[[User talk:WINTERDAWN]]: Thank you for all of the contributions you've made toward archiving all of the Elanthian Journals! Just as a reminder, please use <nowiki>[[Category:Marked for Deletion]]</nowiki> on a page when you would like it deleted. I went ahead and deleted the Journal pages you had cleared and replaced with the text, "Things to be deleted by Simu Admin." because your intent appeared to be very clear, however using the Category instead would make it easier for any mods to see those pages as part of weekly patrols for page deletion requests. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:39, 7 July 2022 (CDT)
:Shoot. I was doing {{category... sorry about that! Also, sorry about the extra set of deletes that I created. I hope it wasn't too time consuming :| [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 13:01, 7 July 2022 (CDT)
::That's okay! It wasn't too time consuming. I just wanted to remind you about it for the future. Thank you again for all of your contributions![[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:37, 8 July 2022 (CDT)

=== Requesting Clarification ===

[[User_talk:FIREPHOENIX]]: Thank you for all of your contributions to preserving the-ever expanding game lore! I have a question regarding your recent edit to [[Ithzir_language_(essay)]]. Do you have the original author's permission to upload "Part 5" to the essay? I did not see you noting that anywhere on the essay's talk page ([[Talk:Ithzir_language_(essay)]]). When uploading someone else's work to the wiki on their behalf, it is important to note that on an individual creative work's talk page so that we have a clear understanding that permission was given by them. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:34, 14 July 2022 (CDT)

:I can confirm with Dergoaten shortly since he's an active player, unsure how to post approval, but it's been confirmed and directed towards https://gswiki.play.net/Ithzir_Genesis for the most current details [[User:FIREPHOENIX|FIREPHOENIX]] ([[User talk:FIREPHOENIX|talk]]) 23:26, 15 July 2022 (CDT)

:Dergoatean — Today at 11:16 PM
:Hi, you absolutely have my permission

::Thank you very much! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:36, 20 July 2022 (CDT)

=== Moving Saved Posts ===

[[User_talk:FIREPHOENIX]]: I just wanted to give you a head's up that I am moving and consolidating some saved posts on the wiki that don't meet the current [[Help:Style/Formatting_special_articles#Saved_posts|Style Guide standards]] for saved posts. Most of them are being moved to the "/saved posts" subpage of relevant questlines, and I am updating any broken links made as a result of these moves. I didn't want to worry you with the sudden rearranging of data and related page deletion since they include a few of the saved posts that you have archived with your ongoing efforts to preserve game history. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 11:40, 21 July 2022 (CDT)

=== Wood Rarity Template Links ===

[[User talk:WINTERDAWN]]: Hi, WINTERDAWN. I just wanted to give you a head's up on why I reverted your changes to [[Template:Wood_Rarity_and_Use]] to remove the redlined links added. The additional links were all to existing real world trees that are not unique to Elanthia. While it is certainly fine for someone to eventually make pages for individual trees and add those links back in to the template, none of the trees with redlined links had anything unique to them in an Elanthian setting apart from their real world equivalents. Hopefully that helps clarify! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:43, 26 July 2022 (CDT)

=== Merchant NPC Pages ===

[[User_talk:ECHEAUX]]: Hi, ECHEAUX. Thank you for your many contributions to the wiki! Getting a lot of the information related to the ongoing Ebon Gate festival out there while it is still running is a big help to other players. Just as a head's up, I have reverted some of the updates you made to various merchant NPC pages. These are largely restricted to where historical information was removed, such as festival venues or various towns where the merchants have worked. I wanted to drop you a note to explain why those changes were reverted so that you weren't surprised by them.

I also have a question regarding the recent updates that you made to [[Template:Merchants]] and related updates to various merchant NPC pages. Looking at the template, it seems like the "venue" section is now much more restricted than before, limited to only a very small list of festivals instead of being more free form as it was in the past. Is that intended or just an oversight? We have so many different festival venues that limiting which ones the template could be used for seems counterproductive, especially if it means that historical information is not preserved. It also looks like you have added a "town" as a new section, which can only have one entry. Is "town" intended to be the merchant's home town? Or is it intended to be the town they most often work in among the various towns they frequent? Thank you for any insight you can offer. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:56, 26 October 2022 (CDT)

=== Works in Progress ===
[[User_talk:ECHEAUX]]: Hi there, ECHEAUX. I am slowly working through patrols of item script page updates, which I know you focused heavily on late last year. It looks like on several of them, mostly ones from October and November, you included the work-in-progress template to indicate you are still working on the pages, however many of them do not appear to have any recent updates in the past month+. While I don't believe these are all of them, they include [[AYRWT?]], [[Flask belt]], [[Ritualistic tool]], and a few others that look like they were from last year's Ebon Gate festival. Are you still actively working on some of these pages? If not, I'll remove the WIP template as I do the patrols to let other users know they are open for editing again. Thanks again for everything you do to help add to the wiki! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:29, 10 January 2023 (CST)
:I have responded to your question on my [[User_talk:ECHEAUX#Works_in_Progress|discussion page]].[[User:ECHEAUX|ECHEAUX]] ([[User talk:ECHEAUX|talk]]) 10:59, 10 January 2023 (CST)
::I have responded to your response :) [[User:ECHEAUX|ECHEAUX]] ([[User talk:ECHEAUX|talk]]) 11:57, 10 January 2023 (CST)

=== Page Moves ===
[[User talk:ECHEAUX]]: Hi, ECHEAUX. I noticed that when you set up the item script page for the [[Grooming locket]], you did so by moving one of your test/sandbox pages with a substantial edit history to the current page. In doing so, that also had the the effect of moving the entire page history for your test page, which included a large number of edits stemming from when you were testing out formatting for other item scripts unrelated to the Grooming locket. While the wiki team is very glad that you're using your test/sandbox pages to try out new things, the best practice in this instance would be to just cut and paste the source code from your test page into a newly created item page instead of moving it from your sandbox if there are unrelated edits in the test page's history. I know that you're very well versed in wiki use at this point, but if you'd like, I can help with that process for the Grooming locket page. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:49, 7 February 2023 (CST)
:Responded [[User:ECHEAUX|ECHEAUX]] ([[User talk:ECHEAUX|talk]]) 12:32, 7 February 2023 (CST)

===Talk Pages vs Articles===

[[User talk:WINTERDAWN]]: Hi, WINTERDAWN. I am reaching out to you because I am reverting back the edits on [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]] to include the full text of the letter instead of omitting portions of it. Could you help me understand why you removed portions of the letter? I understand that you also put the log of the letter being read aloud in game on the page's Talk page. However, the purpose of a Talk page is to provide notes about the main article, such as indicating permission to share something on behalf of another person, sharing incomplete research information, or asking a question/seeking clarification about the text of an article. Talk pages are not intended to be used as supplementary articles, nor should articles omit relevant information for the sake of sharing it on a Talk page. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:42, 8 February 2023 (CST)

:So there are two separate authors here: myself and WBURKE.

:When I first came across the letter as relayed by Cordarius, in user LEAFIARA's log, I thought, "this is very useful information that should probably be more accessible than in the middle of a log." However, it was late, and I was not necessarily wanting to embark on a lengthy project at the time, and so I literally just copy/pasted it into a separate wiki page (the awkwardly named one I marked for deletion).

:Soon after this, user WBURKE created a page to document the information relayed by that letter. The desire of my page was "here's the log so it's easier to find, maybe it'll be made nicer one day." The desire of their page was to focus on the specific points of interest in that letter. My focus was "here's the letter in full" while their focus was "here's the bullet points with regards to the Empire and Wehnimer's Landing." What they created is what I wanted the log to eventually turn into.

:I still felt it useful to have the log around, though, and so dumped it on the discussion page as I don't know where else to put it.

:As an aside, based on how this wiki is used, both in the past and currently, I feel that the discussion page is a fine spot for these types of things. On other wikis yes, you can have very lengthy conversations about the topics you listed, but that just doesn't really happen here on this one.

:Based on those guidelines we would need to move this content: [[Talk:Sanctify (330)]] and [[Talk:Introduction to the Confluence#The Mentor Event Itself]]. I feel that these bits, that are relevant to their pages, would detract from the pages themselves if added. The Sanctify content would just muddy the page and the Confluence content has no relevance on the guide itself. The Sanctify content would be easy enough to break out into it's own guide I guess, and I guess the Confluence content could just be added to my user page or something. /shrug

:Anyways, just my thoughts. At the end of the day you're the boss on this stuff so I acquiesce to what you feel is best :)

:[[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 16:58, 8 February 2023 (CST)

::Hi, WINTERDAWN. I am not ignoring your query; I am waiting on a response from the larger wiki team about how to approach this specific scenario. Generally speaking, any article's Talk page is not an appropriate venue for archiving important information. If the information is completed research, elaboration on topics contained within an article, or relevant log excerpts, that information should be on a main wiki article, not on a Talk page. Depending on what that information consists of, it could either be on the primary article itself or on a different article that is explicitly created to delve into a more complex concept.
::In the case of [[Talk:Sanctify (330)]], the information presented on it would be best in a main article and not on a Talk page; looking at the content, it does seem appropriate for a 330 guide article, as you pointed out (see [[Help:Style#User pages]]). In the case of [[Talk:Introduction to the Confluence]], this appears to be a log excerpt and would be appropriate for a page that is set up as an event log - in the format of "YYYY-MM-DD - Log Title (log)" (as per [[Help:Style/Formatting special articles#Logs]]). However, as the main page itself appears to be set up as a guide, which appears to be drawn from the log itself (or vice versa), it should adhere to the standards of creating a guide. My general recommendation would be to preserve an entire log, including the introduction that is currently on the Talk page as well as any followup questions to the presentation, as a log article and then maintain the existing article as a guide with the information presented as is. That said, because the log excerpt that was retained on the Talk page does not appear to contain information vital to the article itself or further elaboration on the information presented in it, I also don't see an issue with keeping it as is for this specific case.
::In the case of [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]], which led to this conversation, given the nature of this specific article as well as the duplicate information between it and the article [[Protectorate]], I am waiting on confirmation on how best to handle it before taking any further action. Unless another mod or GM weighs in before me, it will likely not be until next week that I can relay the final determination. I appreciate your patience and understanding with this. While the GS wiki does not get anywhere near as much traffic or use as Wikipedia, that does not mean that the GS wiki does not have its standards for how pages, including Talk pages, should be used. Those standards are also continually evolving as more content is added, and what may have been considered fine two years ago may have have updated standards today. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:40, 9 February 2023 (CST)
:::Hello again, WINTERDAWN. After consulting with the wiki team, I have adjusted [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]] to show the previous version of the text instead of the log. I have transcluded the identically presented information from [[Protectorate]] onto [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]]. I have updated text on the page to link to the log excerpt on [[Protectorate]] instead of referencing the article's talk page. I have also updated the article's Talk page to remove the previously saved log excerpt, to clarify what its purpose is, and to direct anyone viewing it to [[Protectorate#5123]], which is where the complete log excerpt is located. Again, to reiterate, the purpose of Talk pages is to facilitate discussion about an article, such as questions about an article, incomplete research, or citing when permission was granted to post on behalf of another person. They are not intended to serve as articles themselves. Logs and completed research should be either incorporated into the main article or in a supplementary article. Hopefully this helps clear up any confusion for you. Thank you again for your patience as I worked to resolve this. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:13, 14 February 2023 (CST)

::::Alright, thank you for this information and checking into things :) I'll work on the two pages I mentioned (and any others I come across later) as soon as I can. [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 05:18, 15 February 2023 (CST)

===Third Party Software===
[[User talk:GS4ALASTIR]]: Hi, GS4ALASTIR. I have followed up with the wiki team on a few recent edits that you made related to third-party software documentation on the wiki. Specifically, I am referring to the subpages you created associated with both [[Script Bigshot]] documentation and the main [[Script Eloot]] article. The wiki policy for documenting Lich software is viewable on [[Help:Style#Lich_information]]. You will need to get staff approval before creating any new Lich script pages or subpages by contacting the [mailto:gs4-wiki@play.net GSWiki email address]. (It is perfectly fine to continue to make edits to existing Lich script pages or subpages.) I will be taking the following steps:
* I am reverting the recent edits that you made to the [[Script Bigshot]] page to restore the information that was removed from it and moved onto the different subpages. Those subpages are:
** [[Script Bigshot/Profile tab]]
** [[Script Bigshot/Resting tab]]
** [[Script Bigshot/Hunting tab]]
** [[Script Bigshot/Attacking tab]]
** [[Script Bigshot/Commands tab]]
** [[Script Bigshot/Monitoring tab]]
** [[Script Bigshot/Misc tab]]
* I am adding a template on each of the Script Bigshot subpages noting that they are marked for deletion.
* I will be deleting each of the Script Bigshot subpages a week from today.
* I am adding a template onto the [[Script Eloot]] page noting that it is marked for deletion.
* I will be deleting [[Script Eloot]] a week from today.
* I am reverting the recent edits that you made to [[:Template:Third-Party Software]], which added a link and reference to the Script Eloot page.
Some of the information that you put onto the Script Bigshot subpages appears to be updated from how it was originally presented on the main article. I want to make sure that you have the opportunity to save or move that back on to the main approved script article before the subpages are permanently deleted. I also want to make sure that you have the same opportunity to save the information you wrote for the Script Eloot page. If you have any questions, please let me or another mod know, either via talk page or by asking on the official Discord server. Thanks for understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:27, 21 March 2023 (CDT)

===Character Vignettes===
[[User talk:LORDROELET]]: Hi there, LORDROELET. I wanted to let you know why I moved your [[Roelon (prime)/Vignette: Plea to the Wsalamir|Plea to the Wsalamir vignette]] back to where you had originally placed it on the wiki. The [[Help:Storyline guidelines#Character Vignettes|storyline guidelines]] were recently updated to address how character vignettes should be posted to the wiki, largely because most character vignettes were shared in response to storylines. Moving forward, their articles should be set up in the format of:
:<code><nowiki>Character name (instance)/Vignette name</nowiki></code>
In addition, they should not use the [[:Template:Creative-work#Character Vignettes|creative-work]] template as character vignettes are considered a form of "off screen roleplay" instead of a creative work like a poem or short story being told by a character. Thank you for sharing your character's vignettes on the wiki. If you have any questions, the best place to ask is on the Official GS Wiki discussion thread in the Discord forum's Help section. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:54, 5 April 2023 (CDT)

===Third Party Software and Scripts===
[[User talk:RINUALDO]]: Hi there, RINUALDO. I have followed up with the wiki team on some new articles you made associated with Lich script documentation. Specifically, I am referring to [[Script foreach]] and [[Script invdb]], which were made last week, plus [[Script Ebounty]], which was made late last year. The wiki policy for documenting Lich software is viewable on [[Help:Style#Lich_information]]. I have confirmed with the wiki team that permission was not given in advance of these articles being created. You will need to get staff approval before creating any new Lich script articles or subarticles by contacting the [mailto:gs4-wiki@play.net GSWiki email address]. (It is perfectly fine to continue to make edits to existing Lich script articles or subarticles.) I am taking the following steps:
* I am adding a template on all three pages noting that they are marked for deletion:
** [[Script foreach]]
** [[Script invdb]]
** [[Script Ebounty]]
* I will delete all three pages one week from today.
I understand that you are active in helping maintain the existing approved third party software articles so that they are accurate and easy to understand for the community. I want to make sure that you have the opportunity to save the information you wrote for the above three articles should they be approved for creation again at a later date. If you have any questions, please let me or another mod know, either via talk page or by asking on the official Discord server. Thank you for understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:03, 18 April 2023 (CDT)
:Putting stuff on talk pages with no way for a user to know that something exists unless they go to the wiki daily is a terrible, terrible way to communicate about deleting something with a timer.
:Can you please clarify "I have confirmed with the wiki team that permission was not given in advance of these articles being created" who you clarified this with?
::Hello again, RINUALDO. I am following up on your question from yesterday about the three articles you created for lich scripts. I did alert the wiki team of your message to me when you added it, and I am aware that staff were able to talk with you on Discord afterward and confirm that you did indeed have prior authorization for the invdb and foreach script articles.
::I would like to apologize on behalf of the wiki team for incorrectly flagging the [[Script foreach]] and [[Script invdb]] articles as not authorized. I am reverting my edits to both of those articles where I had added the delete template, and I am also putting a note on their respective Discussion tabs so that there is no confusion in the future. Unfortunately, the [[Script Ebounty]] article was not approved in advance of it being created, so I do need to delete it when the seven day window has concluded. Thank you for your patience and understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:37, 20 April 2023 (CDT)

The ebounty page was intended in the prior approval that was released. It was referenced in the email request, which I could have been more specific. As this has gone to Feedback, please do not delete anything until the issue is resolved.
:Hi, RINUALDO. I have relayed your message to me on my talk page to the wiki team . Also, just as an FYI if it is helpful, if you want to add on your user name and a timestamp of an edit to the end of the message, it is possible to do so with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:46, 25 April 2023 (CDT)
::Hi again, RINUALDO. I wanted to update you on the three articles I previously reached out to you about. I have removed the delete template and renamed the article for [[Lich:Script Ebounty]] to conform with the updated guidelines for Lich scripts on the wiki. I have also moved both [[Lich:Script invdb]] and [[Lich:Script foreach]] for the same reason. All three articles will need the forthcoming lich header template added to them once the template has been finalized. Thank you for your patience and understanding as the wiki guidelines continue to evolve. I appreciate your continued efforts to add documentation to the wiki to help other players better enjoy the game. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:23, 23 May 2023 (CDT)

===Thaumaturge Tome Script===
[[User talk:ALLENM20]]: Hello, ALLENM20. I am following up with you on behalf of the wiki team. I know that MOD-GSMOTTE already reached out to you about the [[Lich:Thaumaturge Tome Script]] article that you previously wrote. In light of the updates to the wiki standards for lich script pages, the script article is now permitted on the wiki. I have moved the article so that its title properly conforms with these new standards (which adds Lich: at the start of the article title). The article will need to be updated with the forthcoming lich script template as soon as it is released. Thank you for your patience and understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:18, 30 May 2023 (CDT)

===Character Vignettes===
[[User talk:HALEM20]]: Hi again, HALEM20. Thank you for doing so many updates to help record events in the recent and ongoing Platinum storylines. I noticed that you recently added two character vignettes related to the [[:Category:What Lurks in the Dark|What Lurks in the Dark]] storyline that do not appear to be linked to your account based on prior edits to their respective character pages. If you are uploading vignettes on behalf of another player, you will need to very clearly state that on the Discussion tab for each page. The two vignettes are [[Jaired (platinum)/Loose Ends]] and [[Oliviero (platinum)/Interruption]]. To add that information, you will just need to click on the Discussion tab at the top of each article and note that you have permission to upload them. I recommend adding <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> to the end of it to make sure that you have a clear account/date/timestamp applied afterward. Thank you for understanding! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:17, 19 June 2023 (CDT)
:Hello, HALEM20. I previously reached out to you about two character vignettes related to the [[:Category:What Lurks in the Dark|What Lurks in the Dark]] storyline that you added to the wiki for characters that did not appear to be yours, based on prior edits to their respective character pages. I see that Oliviero's player did confirm that permission was given to upload [[Oliviero (platinum)/Interruption]] to the wiki, however there is still no indication that Jaired's player gave permission to upload [[Jaired (platinum)/Loose Ends]]. GSwiki has recently updated its copyright policy with regard to posting works created by another person. I have flagged the "Interruption" vignette for not being in compliance with the updated [[Gswiki:Policy]] for [[GSwiki:Policy#Copyrights|Copyrights]] on works created by someone other than the uploader. A statement that the vignette was uploaded with permission by the author must be added to the vignette's [[Talk:Jaired (platinum)/Loose Ends|Discussion tab]]. '''If that is not added within 7 days, it will be deleted from the wiki.''' If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for copyrights on articles, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926|Discord forum's wiki thread]. Thank you for your understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:34, 13 July 2023 (CDT)

=== Blanked Article===
[[User talk:PAELA]]: Hi there, PAELA. I noticed that you created two articles for your vignette, "Disturbing News", and then went back and deleted all of the text on the duplicate article. The one that still has text is [[Agathilea (prime)/Disturbing News]] while the one that has had all text removed is [[Agathilea (prime)/Disturbing News/Disturbing News]]. Did you remove all the text because you wanted the second article to be deleted? Putting <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki> on an article is the best way to let a wiki Mod know that the page was created in error and should be deleted from the wiki instead of just removing all of the text on it. If that is what you would like to be done, please add the delete template to the article so another mod or I can remove it for you. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:14, 9 August 2023 (CDT)

===Recent Edits===
[[User talk:LUXELLE]]: Hi there, LUXELLE. I'd like to thank you for your many contributions to the wiki, especially for your guides to help other players better enjoy the various festivals and events in game. I know that you frequently collaborate with other players to write some of your guides. Another user recently made some edits to one of your guides, [[Duskruin primer]], that I was not sure were intended by you or your team. They do not appear to be malicious in nature, however I did want to reach out to you about if they were intended to be part of the article. The edits are a new section at the end of the article, [[Duskruin primer#All the big credit givings|All the big credit givings]]. If these edits were not intended by you or your team, either you can delete them or you can let me know and another mod or I would be happy to delete them for you. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:26, 16 August 2023 (CDT)

===Images and Article Edits at Risk for Deletion===
[[User talk:CELLORA]]: Hi there, CELLORA. In reviewing some recent updates to the wiki, I saw that you have made quite a few edits to [[Sorlu (prime)]], which appears to be a character page for someone else's character. There is no indication anywhere that Sorlu's player gave you permission to create or edit a character page on their behalf. [[Gswiki:Policy]] prohibits users from editing character pages unless the character is theirs or they have been given permission by that character's player to make those edits. If you do have permission to edit Sorlu's character page, you will need to indicate this by clearly stating it on its Discussion/Talk tab, [[Talk:Sorlu (prime)]], that you have been given permission to do so by his player. Alternatively, Sorlu's player can put that information on the discussion page. When adding that information, please make sure to add <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end of your comments, which will automatically add a "signature" with your user name, plus the date and time of when your edit was made.

In addition, there are a couple of images that I have flagged, all of which appear related to the same character article. I think I understand what is going on with the images but would appreciate some clarification from you if my understanding is correct.
* [[:File:Nalfein Crest.png]] - This image appears to be a duplicate of [[:File:A Nalfein Crest.png]]. It is not used on any articles. An earlier edit by you to the file noted you as being the creator.
* [[:File:A Nalfein Crest.png]] - This image appears on [[Sorlu (prime)]]. This image notes Sorlu as being the creator, as does the caption you added to Sorlu's character page.
Can you confirm who created the image? It appears that Sorlu's player created it, you erroneously placed your name on "Nalfein Crest" then removed it, then reuploaded the image crediting Sorlu. Is that accurate? If so, I will delete the first duplicate file as it is not used anywhere.
* [[:File:Nalfein Crest 3.png]] - This image appears to be a duplicate of [[:File:Rotting Nalfein Cret.png]]. It is not used on any articles. This image notes you as being the creator, not Sorlu's player.
* [[:File:Rotting Nalfein Cret.png]] This image appears on [[Sorlu (prime)]]. This image notes Sorlu as being the creator, as does the caption you added to Sorlu's character page.
Can you confirm who created the image? It appears that this is a similar situation as the above two images, where you first listed yourself as the creator then re-uploaded the image listing Sorlu as the creator. If that is the case, I will delete the first duplicate file as it is not used anywhere.

In all cases, '''If that information is not added within 7 days, your edits to the character page and the impacted images will be deleted from the wiki.''' Thank you very much for clearly taking steps to fully credit images, not just who created them but also if permission was granted to upload them. That is a big help for moderators like me as we review edits to the wiki. If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for editing character pages, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926%7CDiscord forum's wiki thread]. Thank you for understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 11:02, 29 August 2023 (CDT)

Hello! Yes, I made a mistake on the images and couldn't figure out how to fix it without uploading new ones. If you could please delete the first ones, that would be great! He created them. I'm still figuring out the flagging and all of that for the wiki. I will add a note on the page that he gave me permission to create the page as well. [[User:CELLORA|CELLORA]] ([[User talk:CELLORA|talk]]) 12:59, 29 August 2023 (CDT)

===Article/Edits at Risk for Deletion===
[[User talk:DASLOONIX]]: Hi again, DASLOONIX. In reviewing some recent updates to the wiki, I saw that you have made quite a few edits to [[Sorlu (prime)]], which appears to be a character page for someone else's character. There is no indication anywhere that Sorlu's player gave you permission to create or edit a character page on their behalf. [[Gswiki:Policy]] prohibits users from editing character pages unless the character is theirs or they have been given permission by that character's player to make those edits. If you do have permission to edit Sorlu's character page, you will need to indicate this by clearly stating it on its Discussion/Talk tab, [[Talk:Sorlu (prime)]], that you have been given permission to do so by his player. Alternatively, Sorlu's player can put that information on the discussion page. When adding that information, please make sure to add <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end of your comments, which will automatically add a "signature" with your user name, plus the date and time of when your edit was made. '''If that information is not added within 7 days, your edits to that article will be deleted from the wiki.''' If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for editing character pages, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926%7CDiscord forum's wiki thread]. Thank you for understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 11:02, 29 August 2023 (CDT)

===Images and Article Edits at Risk for Deletion===
[[User talk:CHADDEAUX]]: Hello, CHADDEAUX. I am reaching out to you about two things.

First, a few years ago you created and edited a character page article, [[Dirvy (prime)]], which has since then been edited by another user. There is no indication anywhere that Dirvy's player gave you permission to create or edit a character page on their behalf. [[Gswiki:Policy]] prohibits users from creating or editing character pages unless the character is theirs or they have been given permission by that character's player to make those edits. If you do have permission to edit Dirvy's character page, you will need to indicate this by clearly stating it on its Discussion/Talk tab, [[Talk:Dirvy (prime)]], that you have been given permission to do so by her player. Alternatively, Dirvy's player can put that information on the discussion page. When adding that information, please make sure to add <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end of your comments, which will automatically add a "signature" with your user name, plus the date and time of when your edit was made.

Second, you previously uploaded three images to the wiki which are missing some required information. GSwiki now has a new policy for all images uploaded to it. Please see [[Gswiki:Policy#Copyrights]] for more information about that policy and the requirement to note image creators, what AI imaging software was used (if any), and if permission was granted by the creator to upload the image to the wiki.
* [[:File:Dirvy Britbane medium.jpg]] - Thank you for already stating that Stormyrain created this artwork. You will need to add whether Stormyrain also gave you permission to upload the image onto the wiki. This information will need to be noted both on the image file as well as all articles displaying it.
* [[:File:Dirvy by Flimbo.jpg]] - Thank you for already stating that Flimbo created this artwork. You will need to add whether Flimbo also gave you permission to upload the image onto the wiki. This information will need to be noted both on the image file as well as all articles displaying it.
* [[:File:Zailon.png]] - Thank you for already stating that Flimbo created this artwork. You will need to add whether Flimbo also gave you permission to upload the image onto the wiki. This information will need to be noted both on the image file as well as all articles displaying it.
In all cases for the character page and the three images, '''if the required information is not added within 7 days, the edits to the character page and the images will be deleted from the wiki.''' If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for images, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926%7CDiscord forum's wiki thread]. Thank you for understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:50, 17 October 2023 (CDT)

===Images and Article Edits at Risk for Deletion===
[[User talk:TWILSON]]: Hello, TWILSON. I am reaching out to you about two things.

First, you recently edited a character page article, [[Dirvy (prime)]], which was originally created and edited by another user. There is no indication anywhere that Dirvy's player gave you permission to create or edit a character page on their behalf. [[Gswiki:Policy]] prohibits users from creating or editing character pages unless the character is theirs or they have been given permission by that character's player to make those edits. If you do have permission to edit Dirvy's character page, you will need to indicate this by clearly stating it on its Discussion/Talk tab, [[Talk:Dirvy (prime)]], that you have been given permission to do so by her player. Alternatively, Dirvy's player can put that information on the discussion page. When adding that information, please make sure to add <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end of your comments, which will automatically add a "signature" with your user name, plus the date and time of when your edit was made.

Second, you recently uploaded an image to the wiki, [[:File:Dirvy gencraft image.jpg]], which is missing some required information. GSwiki now has a new policy for all images uploaded to it. Please see [[Gswiki:Policy#Copyrights]] for more information about that policy and the requirement to note image creators, what AI imaging software was used (if any), and if permission was granted by the creator to upload the image to the wiki. Images using AI software in their creation are also required to be included in [[:Category:AI artwork]] Thank you for already noting that it was created using AI software. You will need to add who created the image and, if that person is not you, if you had permission to upload it to the wiki. This information will need to be noted both on the image file as well as any articles displaying it.

In all cases for the character page and the image, '''if the required information is not added within 7 days, the edits to the character page and the image will be deleted from the wiki.''' If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for images, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926%7CDiscord forum's wiki thread]. Thank you for understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:49, 17 October 2023 (CDT)

===Blanked article===
[[User talk:GS4ALASTIR]]: Hi there, GS4ALASTIR. I noticed that you created an article for [[Emberthorn Refuge]] with a lot of information on it then shortly afterward went back and removed all of the text. Are you trying to have the article deleted? If so, placing <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki> on an article flags it for mods to review for deletion. Thanks again for your many contributions! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 11:25, 12 September 2023 (CDT)

===Short Story Question===

[[User talk:CHIVERSFREE1]]: Hello, CHIVERSFREE1. The wiki team is currently working on some updates for the style guide as it relates to various types of creative works, including short stories and vignettes. This includes better defining what different creative works are so that they are better reflected with the creative-works template, article titles, etc., to help out both contributors and other players accessing the wiki. I know that you have been working on several lengthy articles, such as [[The Reckoning (short story)]], which might span several categories of creative works. I was hoping that you could share some insight on how you have approached writing articles like it.

You have "The Reckoning" labeled as a short story with the creative-works template. It appears to be a series of glimpses into off-screen/out-of-game roleplay focusing on your character as opposed to a short story written or shared by your character or set within Elanthia in general. Would you feel that is accurate - that it is more a lengthy series of off-screen vignettes as opposed to a formal short story? It also appears that there are sometimes contributions by other authors, such as chapters where Rohese and Mirkk are having a conversation or actively doing things together. Is "The Reckoning" retelling events that have taken place in game in a prose format (as opposed to a log format)? In some ways, it seems like it might almost be a [[Help:Storyline guidelines#Player-Run Storylines|player-run storyline]] focusing on Rohese's personal growth and evolution.

Thank you in advance for any insight you can offer. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:33, 3 October 2023 (CDT)

===Duplicate Logs===
[[User talk:TUMARA]]: Hi there, TUMARA. You recently added two logs that appear to be identical to the wiki. Can you please clarify which one you intended to keep? You can do this by editing the duplicate log that you want deleted and adding <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki> somewhere on that log article. That flags it for a mod to delete. The two logs are:
* [[The Heads Rolled (Battle Log)]]
* [[The Heads Rolled--Battle Log]]
I will update the one you intended to keep with the correct log title once you have identified it. It will end up as titled "Evermore Hollow - 2023-10-23 - The Heads Rolled Battle (log)", per [[Gswiki:Style guide/Formatting special articles#Logs]]. If you do not note which article you prefer to keep within 7 days, then I will delete the newer article and keep the older one. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:35, 31 October 2023 (CDT)

===Uploaded Images and Captions===
[[User talk:PTOLEMY]]: Hello, PTOLEMY. I have updated the image captions for all new images you added to your character page, [[Jaysehn (prime)]]. GSwiki now has a new policy for all images uploaded to it. Please see [[Gswiki:Policy#AI-Generated Artwork]] for more information about that policy and how it pertains to any images created with AI imaging software. AI generated images cannot be noted as copyrighted, and the captions displaying AI generated images must reflect the same information as what you indicated in their file uploads. I have already updated the captions based on information you provided with the uploaded files, however please keep this in mind with any future use of them or other AI-generated images. In addition, I have also already added the required [[:Category:AI artwork]] for all of your recently uploaded images. If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for images, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926%7CDiscord forum's wiki thread]. Thank you for your help with this process. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:08, 7 November 2023 (CST)

===Duplicate Article===
[[User talk:PTOLEMY]]: Hello, PTOLEMY. You recently created two identical articles, [[Paid in Full]] and [[Jaysehn (prime)/Reflections/Paid in Full]]. I suspect that the second is the article you intended to create and the first was made in error, due to the second following the Style Guide's standards for personal vignettes. Can you please confirm which duplicate should be deleted? This can be done by editing the one you wish deleted and putting in the <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki> template anywhere on the article. If I do not hear any response from you in one week, I will mark [[Paid in Full]] with the delete template for mod review and deletion. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:45, 13 December 2023 (CST)

===Images and Article Edits at Risk for Deletion===

[[User talk:PTOLEMY]]:Hi, PTOLEMY. I'm reaching out to you about a couple of things.

First, I'm contacting you about the recent images that you have uploaded to the wiki. The requirements for posting images to the wiki has changed this past year. Please see [[Gswiki:Policy#Copyrights]] for more information about that policy and the requirement to note image creators, what AI imaging software was used (if any), and if permission was granted by the creator to upload the image to the wiki. In addition, all images using AI generating software are required to include <nowiki>[[Category:AI artwork]]</nowiki> on the files themselves. I have edited all but two of the files that you have uploaded to include this, however in the future if this continues to be omitted, I will begin flagging those files for moderater review/deletion. This text should be added as part of the image file description when you upload it, or edited it into the image file description after uploading. The two files I have not edited to include this information are outlined in the next paragraph.

Second, you recently edited a character page, [[Hadya (prime)]], which has been maintained by another user. There is no indication anywhere that Hadya's player gave you permission to edit a character page on their behalf. [[Gswiki:Policy]] prohibits users from creating or editing character pages unless the character is theirs or they have been given permission by that character's player to make those edits. If you do have permission to edit Hadya's character page, you will need to indicate this by clearly stating it on its Discussion tab, [[Talk:Hadya (prime)]], that you have been given permission to do so by her player. Alternatively, Hadya's player can put that information on the discussion tab. When adding that information, please make sure to add <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end of your comments, which will automatically add a "signature" with your user name, plus the date and time of when your edit was made. I am flagging the edits you made to this article as well as the two images you uploaded for it as not following [[Gswiki:Policy]] requiring permission from the character's player. The two impacted images are [[:File:Hadya AI Ptolemy.jpg]] and [[:File:HadyaSummons AI Ptolemy.jpg]]. These two images are also missing the required <nowiki>[[Category:AI artwork]]</nowiki>.

'''If that information is not added within 7 days, these images and article edits will be deleted from the wiki.''' Please do not remove the <nowiki>{{moddelete}}</nowiki> template from the images and article displaying them. Another moderator or I will remove that template after your updates have been reviewed to ensure that they meet [[Gswiki:Policy]] requirements. If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for images, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926 Discord forum's wiki thread]. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:25, 20 December 2023 (CST)

===Duplicate Images===
[[User talk:LYSTRA]]: Hi there, LYSTRA. You recently uploaded two images to the wiki that appear to be duplicates of one another except with slightly different resolutions. The two image files are [[:File:Fyg-kitten.png]] (1024x1024 pixels) and [[:File:Fyg-kitten1.png]] (500x500 pixels). Can you please let me know which of the two you had intended to keep on the wiki and which is the duplicate that should be deleted? I will remove the duplicate image. You can let me or another moderator know by adding <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki> to the image file that was uploaded in error, or you can respond here. If I do not hear back from you in one week, I will flag the image with the lower resolution for mod review and deletion. In addition, all images using AI software in their creation are required to be included in [[:Category:AI artwork]]. To add that text to an image file, you will need to click on "Edit Source" on the image file itself and add <nowiki>[[Category:AI artwork]]</nowiki>. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:01, 20 December 2023 (CST)
:[[:File_talk:Fyg-kitten1.png]]: This image appears to be a lower resolution duplicate of [[:File:Fyg-kitten.png]] and is not used on any articles. It will be deleted in favor of the higher resolution image unless the uploader requests that this image be kept and the higher resolution image be deleted instead. Uploader originally contacted on 12/20/23 regarding the existence of a duplicate image and informed of this next step. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:06, 27 December 2023 (CST)

===Article Edits at Risk for Deletion===
[[User talk:SWEETLITTLEAGONY]]: Hello, SWEETLITTLEAGONY. In reviewing some recent updates to the wiki, I saw that you have made changes to [[Lissaya (prime)]], which appears to be a character page for someone else's character as the article was originally created by a different account. There is no indication anywhere that Lissaya's player gave you permission to edit a character page on their behalf. [[Gswiki:Policy]] prohibits users from editing character pages unless the character is theirs or they have been given permission by that character's player to make those edits. If you do have permission to edit Lissaya's character page, you will need to indicate this by clearly stating it on its Discussion tab, [[Talk:Lissaya (prime)]], that you have been given permission to do so by her player. Alternatively, Lissaya's player can put that information on the discussion page. When adding that information, please make sure to add <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end of your comments, which will automatically add a "signature" with your user name, plus the date and time of when your edit was made. '''If that information is not added within 7 days, your edits to that article will be deleted from the wiki.''' If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for editing character pages, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926 Discord forum's wiki thread]. Thank you for understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:49, 20 December 2023 (CST)

== Uploaded Image Patrol ==

Moved to [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET/Image patrols]].

== Elanthian Journals ==

By chance are you able to see the old Elanthian Journal pages that were deleted? I just realized.. one thing I never did is check each one to see what linked to them. I just found a page that linked to a Journal :| [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 16:52, 12 August 2022 (CDT)
:Unfortunately, no. Once a page is deleted, it is gone-gone. However, I was able to pull up a list of broken links and adjusted seven pages that appeared to reference the old Elanthian Journal pages. That should hopefully have caught any others that were overlooked! [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:45, 16 August 2022 (CDT)
::Thank you for this! Sorry for the extra work. [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 15:44, 16 August 2022 (CDT)
:::Very welcome! Thank you for bringing up the potential of broken links. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:14, 17 August 2022 (CDT)

== Merchants template ==

I cobbled that template together in 2019, as a pet project, when things were a little more relaxed. So many people were "remember that one merchant? Where were they?? What did they look like??", that it felt like a good addition. Anyway, it was a build based on a template someone else had done, as you've likely read. I had planned on continuing work on it, then COVID hit and I turned into a homeschool teacher for two young teenagers.

Venues: the primary reason I changed those venues was because it was putting so many merchants into categories that didn't exist, and may not have been the best one for them to go into ''at the time''. By restricting category to "wandering" and others that already had a category made, it cut down on "red links"; '''wandering''' moved them into a common category and could be changed later. '''Generally speaking''', if they had a mention in their blurb as to what venue they attended, I removed the category that was causing a red link, although any that did not were likely an oversight (the notable exception being Elsia - I forgot to research her item, '''Fancy Coats''', so I could add the venue).

Towns: it was my intention to adapt the template to allow them to be placed into the category '''for that town'''. An example would be citizen-only merchants such as Duvernith or Davro. I admittedly got wrapped up in EG item-adding and had not gotten back to fixing the "town" venue to populate into town pages instead of '''Town''' NPCs, a category that doesn't exist, so I just left town uncategorized for the time being.

Many of those merchants I added myself with no real idea of what venues they had visited, in that hopes of at least having an appearance and a basic blurb to be expanded upon later. I had intended to continue with the work after EG and add category pages where appropriate. That section of the template might get pretty long for particularly industrious merchants! '''Wandering''' seemed like a good fit if they didn't have what might be considered a "primary festival" (for example, I wouldn't be surprised to see Elusionari in a lot of places!).

That said, I get that once you add a template, you basically lose any claim to it being "yours". However, no one else really took an interest in it, and I was told it would need work anyway, so I figured I was all right to try to adapt it to '''not''' use non-existent categories for the time being, since many (most?) of them had venue linked in the blurb or the body of the article. (TL:DR yet? LOL)[[User:ECHEAUX|ECHEAUX]] ([[User talk:ECHEAUX|talk]]) 12:09, 26 October 2022 (CDT)

== Table updates ==

Hello! As I'm sure you've noticed, I've been going through and updating older items to the newer templates. A lot of them are simple, but some of them require more time; much more time in some cases. For those, fortunately, a lot them are more or less copy and paste for the verb lists with a few minor tweaks. I noticed that on a couple of them you've gone back and added in formatting for data tables for accessibility purposes. I read up on that today and I'll be sure to add that going forward, but I was wondering: Is there a way you are finding those that need it or are you just kind of seeing them as I'm doing them? I'd be more than happy to go back correct the formatting on those, but if there's a way I can find them more "wholesale" than "piecemeal", that would make the job easier. [[User:ECHEAUX|ECHEAUX]] ([[User talk:ECHEAUX|talk]]) 17:40, 9 November 2022 (CST)
:Hi there! Part of my duties as one of our wiki mods are to review recent page changes to ensure that they are appropriate to the wiki, are accurate, are appropriately named as a page or subpage, and that they generally comply with the wiki style guide. So you'll see me doing things like updating pages to use new template standards, moving pages that aren't named properly, fixing redirects or broken links, updating categories, reviewing pages listed in [[:Category:Marked for Deletion]], and similar "moderator" type duties focused on overall wiki consistency that are not expected of general users who instead are adding new content to the wiki. One of the standards set out by the style guide and the wiki team is to ensure that the wiki is as accessible as possible to everyone, including our users who rely on a screen reader. If I run across any pages during my patrols that don't meet current standards, including tables that are not set up in a way for screen readers to properly capture, part of my job as a moderator is to update them accordingly. Since you have been incredibly active on the wiki over the past couple of months, I am much more likely to review your edits than other users due to sheer volume; that's why it might look like I'm going back to change pages you've touched more so than other users. Thanks for inquiring! If you'd like to know more about our moderator team or what our role is, I encourage you to ask on the Gemstone Discord's #wiki-talk channel where one of the GMs overseeing the wiki can chime in. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:11, 10 November 2022 (CST)
::Oh, I understand that. I just wasn't sure if there was an easy way to see pages with certain errors so I could fix those that I missed them on. I can go through my contribution list and do it, though. Thanks for getting back to me![[User:ECHEAUX|ECHEAUX]] ([[User talk:ECHEAUX|talk]]) 10:34, 10 November 2022 (CST)

== Northern Sentinel's Decree==

Hello! My intention with this page was to list only the legal characteristics of the Landing's protectorate status. I deliberately did not want to include the preamble and ending of the letter, as they did not carry legal weight. As such, I would like to revert it to a version which contains only those legal characteristics. In my view, a log page or official document page would be more appropriate for recording the entire letter. [[User:WBURKE1|WBURKE1]] ([[User talk:WBURKE1|talk]])
:Hi, WBURKE1. Thanks for reaching out to me! I am not ignoring your query; I am waiting on a response from the larger wiki team about how to approach this specific scenario with the article [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]]. As I explained to WINTERDAWN, generally speaking an article's Talk page is not an appropriate venue for archiving important information. Given the nature of this specific article as well as the duplicate information between it and the article [[Protectorate]], I am waiting on confirmation on how best to handle it before taking any further action. Unless another mod or GM weighs in before me, it will likely not be until next week that I can relay the final determination. I appreciate your patience and understanding with this. Thank you again for all of your contributions to the wiki. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:40, 9 February 2023 (CST)
::Hello again, WBURKE1. After consulting with the wiki team, I have adjusted [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]] to show the previous version of the text instead of the log. I have transcluded the identically presented information from [[Protectorate]] onto [[Northern Sentinel's Decree on the Imperial Protection of Wehnimer's Landing]]. I have updated text on the page to link to the log excerpt on [[Protectorate]] instead of referencing the article's talk page. I have also updated the article's Talk page to remove the previously saved log excerpt, to clarify what its purpose is, and to direct anyone viewing it to [[Protectorate#5123]], which is where the complete log excerpt is located. This should help ensure that the intent behind the original page, which is to succinctly state the terms of the Landing's Protectorate status, is maintained while still preserving information. Thank you again for your patience as I worked to resolve this. Please let me know if you have any further questions or concerns. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:13, 14 February 2023 (CST)
:::Thanks for this resolution and for all your hard work! [[User:WBURKE1|WBURKE1]] ([[User talk:WBURKE1|talk]]) 12:39, 14 February 2023 (CST)

== Images ==

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== I don't know what I'm doing! ==

Hi, I tried to DM, failed! But found.. this space. And I have no idea if I'm doing it correctly. I READ WHAT YOU WROTE and thank you for what was pointed out I will work on figuring out how to fix it, it just might not be instantly remedied (not too long, just not a finger-snap of time, I'm still figuring stuff out!) -DASLOONIX

== 5mb File Size Down to 2mb ==

I'm noticing that the wiki now has a 2mb file size limit when it used to be 5mb. Is this an unintended result of the recent update or is it intentional? I'm trying to update my OSA maps but the 2mb limit is going to cause a huge loss in quality on them. Thoughts? If it's intentional, perhaps you or an admin could override the setting and post the two maps for me? [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 19:56, 7 January 2024 (CST)

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{{work-in-progress}}

This is a collection of Open Sea Adventures maps that have been used on this wiki. This listing is to give map users options as well as show older maps for timeline posterity.

== GM Retser's Master Version ==

[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ia_IDE0MAaf_uqgO7FRKJslaUZ4PIGJI7_KQfu-qF2Q Click Here to Open the Google Sheet]

== Arianiss's Version (January 2024) ==

[[Image:Open Sea Adventures.jpg | thumb | none | alt=A modified version of the Open Sea Adventures map created by Arianiss | Arianiss's version (January 2024). This map is accurate and complete as of January 2024.]]

[[Image:Open Sea Adventures (moderate).jpg | thumb | none | alt=A modified version of the Open Sea Adventures map created by Arianiss | Arianiss's version (January 2024). This map is accurate and complete as of January 2024.]]

[[Image:Open Sea Adventures (basic).png | thumb | none | alt=A modified version of the Open Sea Adventures map created by Arianiss | Arianiss's version (January 2024). This map is accurate and complete as of January 2024.]]

== Avery Trent's Map of the Flotilla (June 2023) ==

[[Image:Flotilla.png | thumb | none | alt=A map of the Flotilla by Avery Trent | This map is accurate and complete as of June 2023.]]

== Naamit's Version (July 2021) ==

[[Image:ElanthiaOcean.png | thumb | none | alt=A modified version of the Open Sea Adventures map created by Naamit | Naamit's version (July 2021). This map is accurate but incomplete as of November 2022.]]

== Athias's Version (January 2021) ==

This map is accurate but incomplete as of November 2022.

[https://gswiki.play.net/images/archive/a/ac/20210730191108%21ElanthiaOcean.png Click Here to Open Athias's Version]

== GM Retser's Original Version (November 2020) ==

This map is accurate but incomplete as of November 2022.

[https://gswiki.play.net/images/archive/a/ac/20210122043140%21ElanthiaOcean.png Click Here to Open Retser's Version]

== GM Retser's Original Version (July 2020) ==

This map is inaccurate. Do not use it. Listed for historical posterity.

[https://gswiki.play.net/images/archive/a/ac/20201113191429%21ElanthiaOcean.png Click Here to Open Retser's Version]

[[Category: Maps]]
[[Category: Open Sea Adventures]]

Open Sea Adventures

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WINTERDAWN: /* The Ocean */

{{TOCright}}'''Open Sea Adventures''' is a new expansion to the game that was released in [[Prime]] on September 3, 2020. Set sail on the [[Great Western Sea]] and launch into a brand new adventure on the [[Tenebrous Cauldron]] and [[Great Western Sea]] - complete with dynamic weather messaging and a multitude of rooms. Get started by visiting port town [[Kraken's Fall]] to purchase one of 6 ships: sloop, brigantine, carrack, frigate, galleon, or man o’ war. Gather your friends and set sail, braving the perils of the vast seas, as you work to raise your reputation and notoriety. Fight Krolvin Pirates, Ethereal Pirates, and the Dreaded Dark Pirates with your life and your crew's life on the line. Will you set sail in a perilous circle, or journey from Darkstone Bay to Kraken’s Fall? Will you cast your lines and take your friends out and avoid all enemy ships? Will you attempt to be the most notorious Captain or Swashbuckler?

==System Overview==

* Explore the newly-accessible ocean and experience dynamic weather messaging.
* Buy your own ship and travel in style.
* Gain reputation to access better ships and cosmetic upgrades.
* Gain notoriety and unlock special [[title system|titles]] - both temporary and permanent.
* Test your mettle in ship versus ship combat. Fire your cannons, repair your ship, or flee from your enemies!
* All new ship boarding. Fight waves of enemies aboard your ship as you attempt to come out victorious. Defeat them all, take their treasure, and raze their ship!
* Lost at sea? Lose your crew and your morale? There is a new rescue system to help you get back to port should you face total defeat on the high seas.

===The Ocean===

The ocean is massive in scale. Players can use ships to travel between several towns west and east of the DragonSpine:

* [[Wehnimer's Landing]]
* [[Teras Isle]]
* [[Solhaven]]
* [[Kraken's Fall]]
* [[River's Rest]]
* [[Ta'Vaalor]]
* [[Icemule Trace]]
* [[Brisker's Cove]]
* [[Ta'Nalfein]]

A collection of various Open Sea Adventures maps can be found [[/maps | here]].

===Reputation, Notoriety===

Reputation and notoriety are gained with Kraken's Fall by hunting down pirates or performing tasks at the [[Sea Hag's Roost]] such as culling pirates, hunting captains, or sinking ships. ''Reputation'' unlocks more cosmetic options and the ability to purchase the larger ships (but does not result in a price reduction). ''Notoriety'' tracks your total infamy on the seas with "all time" notoriety ({{boldmono|OSA INFO}}) and a 30-day notoriety tracking leadboard which is mostly for bragging rights but also unlocks possible [[title]]s. Your total pirate kills are also tracked with more tracking planned for future release phases.

Your Reputation starts out at Neutral and increases by performing the following tasks:
* Turning in Salvaged Crates
* Killing Pirates
* RAZEing ships
* Turning in completed tasks
* TBD

{| {{prettytable}}
|- style="background:#00004C; vertical-align: top; font-size: larger; color:white;"
|Reputation Rank || Reputation Required
|-
| Neutral || 0
|-
| Friendly || 1000
|-
| Amiable || 2500
|-
| Revered || 4500
|-
| Exalted || 7000
|-
| Ally || 10000
|}

===Death and Total Failure===

Should you experience the unique [[Death%27s_Sting#Hunting_Ground_Specific_Death_Messaging|death messaging]] by [[death|dying]] on the sea or falling overboard - where you will eventually drown, you will be lucky enough to either be rescued by good sailors or by greedy pirate. What happens next depends on which group finds you and returns you to Kraken's Fall. Pirates will ransom your freedom while the town will charge you for the rescue services provided. The death/rescue event takes 4.2 minutes. If your ship is sunk, you must repair it. All fees must be paid on a ship before you can launch it again.

===New Verbs===

* {{boldmono|[[OSA (verb)|OSA]]}} displays information related to the system as well as fines, roles, current task, and other help.
* {{boldmono|[[SHIP (verb)|SHIP]]}} displays customizations and upgrades of owned ship, allows you to scuttle your ship to end your journey, and provides information on the systems, processes, and commands related to managing and using your ship.
* {{boldmono|[[REPUTATION (verb)|REPUTATION]]}} displays information on your reputation with the town of Kraken's Fall as well as with [[Reim]].

==Ships==

To buy a ship, you need to visit [[Chip n' Dwight's]] on Deadeye's Road in Kraken's Fall or [[Wyvern Elite Coastal Crafts]] in [[Mistwatch]]. When first starting on your career as a captain, you will only have access to the sloop. To earn access to the larger ships, you will need to earn reputation with the town of Kraken's Fall. You can do so by performing tasks or hunting down pirate ships out on our beloved ocean, the [[Tenebrous Cauldron]], or on the [[Great Western Sea]]. This may be done on other people's ships, not just your own.

Prior to October 2022, ships were a one-time purchase and could never be re-sold or transferred. However, a change was made that allows you to TRADE your ship in. This will give you 80% of the base value. This value can be used to purchase a larger ship. Think of it like a running credit balance on an account. Trading your ship in will not remove your bird.

Also, the ship salesmen will now allow you to DEED your ship. To DEED your ship it will cost you 20% of the base value in silver. The deed will carry over all mechanical and cosmetic upgrades. The deed will NOT include your birds.

Please keep in mind both of these features will remove titles earned by owning a certain number of ships. Increasing your reputation does not decrease the cost of the ships.

{{OSA_Ships}}

====Naming====

Your ship will have a random name, assigned when you purchase it. This can be changed (re-randomized) for a fee by talking to the ship name registrar within the [[Inking Den]]'s Office of Petitions. A partial, yet growing list of potential [[ship name]]s is available to view or contribute to based on your own ships.

===Ship Upgrading and Cosmetics===

You can upgrade your ship by visiting one of the many merchants around Kraken's Fall. Each merchant has a specialty in a service they can provide. Functional upgrades offer mechanical gains to make your ship stronger. Cosmetic upgrades allow you to customize and personalize your ship's appearance to suit your character.

====Functional Upgrades====

{| {{prettytable}}
|- style="background:#00004C; vertical-align: top; font-size: larger; color:white;"
!Upgrade Item !!Location !!More Information
|-
|Sails ||[[Yardarm's Skirt]] on Deadeye's Road ||Upgrading your sails will make your ship sail faster.
|-
|Hull Strength ||[[Swabbing Starts]] on Siphon Street ||Upgrading your hull strength will make your ship able to withstand more damage.
|-
|Cannons||[[Maritime Defenses]] on South Arm Road ||Upgrading your cannons increases the total number of cannons on your ship.
|-
|Cargo Hold ||[[Lean To]] on Deadeye's Road ||Increases the hold's storage capacity of wood and cannon balls. Each level of upgrade also adds 20lbs to cargo bin capacity.
|-
|Courier Birds ||[[All Hands]] on South Arm Road||Allows remote task redemption and acquisition. (Ask merchant about BIRD BOAT TYPE)
|}

====Cosmetic Upgrades====

{| {{prettytable}}
|- style="background:#00004C; vertical-align: top; font-size: larger; color:white;"
|Upgrade Item ||Shop Location ||Upgrade Type
|-
|Cannons ||[[Maritime Defenses]] on South Arm Road||article, material
|-
|Captain's Quarters ||[[Sailor's Solace]] on Siphon Street|| chair (material, type, long), table (color, material), bed (color, material, long), wall (material), style, map (color, material), trash (color, material)
|-
|Crew Quarters ||[[All Hands]] on South Arm Road||style
|-
|Figureheads ||[[Bowsprit's Maiden]] on Cranial Crawl||type, color, material
|-
|Flags ||[[Vexillology Visions]] on South Arm Road||color, material
|-
|Gangplank ||[[Swabbing Starts]] on Siphon Street||color, material
|-
|Hulls ||[[Swabbing Starts]] on Siphon Street||color, material
|-
|Mess Hall||[[Grub, Gruel, and Grog]] on South Arm Road||food (five types), furniture (color, material)
|-
|Sails ||[[Yardarm's Skirt]] on Deadeye's Road||color, material
|-
|Wheels ||[[Fighting the Helm]] on Deadeye's Road||color, material
|-
|}

===Ship Combat===

While sailing, you have a random chance to be attacked by an enemy ship from these types: general/mixed (these have dark ships), ethereal (undead), or krolvin. The enemy ship is private and spawned specifically for you and your crew. Once engaged, you can follow the above-outlined combat for general boarding. Once boarded, creatures spawn in waves for everyone on board at the level of those gathered. These match the level of those in each room, so separate if you need to. You can spread out onto both ships, but your ship can be hit by cannon fire or arrows while boarded. (This appears to do damage only to the characters while boarded, not the ship.)

Ethereal (undead) pirates require blessed magic metal or, if using ranged, magical woods or magical metal arrowheads.

{| {{prettytable}}
|- style="background:#00004C; vertical-align: top; font-size: larger; color:white;"
|Enemy Ship Size ||Enemy Count
|-
|scope="row"|Sloop ||15-20
|-
|scope="row"|Brigantine ||30-40
|-
|scope="row"|Carrack ||35-45
|-
| scope="row"|Galleon ||50-60
|-
| scope="row"|Frigate ||60-80
|-
| scope="row"|Man O'War ||90-120
|}

If you manage to deplete the enemy ship of units, a boss (Ethereal Captain, Krolvin Captain, or Pirate Captain) will spawn that must be defeated. If you defeat the boss, you can {{boldmono|SEARCH}} the treasure pile on their ship for boxes. You may also want to take their supply crate to restock your own ship.

<b>Salvage crates</b> can be gained from searching the treasure pile or, if you sink a ship without boarding, one may appear in the water. The salvage crate will be bound to you and your crew when picked up. These can be brought to the handler and turned in for a loot chest based on the tier of the salvage. The loot crates will have an assortment of items, including gems of varying rarities, Kraken's Fall bank notes of varying amounts, and a chance at an item. Upon handing off the salvage crate, the handler will award any crew members present in the same room with Notoriety and Reputation in addition to the rewards aforementioned. (You <b>must</b> be present in the same room.)

If you want a task before going out, go to the Sea Hag's Roost, Tavern and {{boldmono|GET BOARD}}. Once you have a task, you can use {{boldmono|OSA TASK}} for details and help or to abandon it. To turn in the task, return to the Sea Hag and {{boldmono|TURN BOARD}}. Task boards are also available at most dock handlers.

===Ship Repairing & Fees===

As you sail your ship, it may incur damage that must be repaired. To repair your ship after it is destroyed or damaged, you will need to visit the boatswain. A boatswain can be found near the following major ports:

*Kraken's Fall - Academy of the Bos'n
*Solhaven - Ardenys's Academy for Bos'ns
*Ta'Vaalor - Shipshape Overhaul
*Wehnimer's Landing - Nexyn's Notables

You may also find yourself with fines due to services provided by the town while out on the open sea or trapped in a back alley. You will need to pay these off at the local debt collector. Having debts in either form will prevent you from launching your ship again. Maximum ship fees for a scuttled or destroyed ship are listed in the Summary of Ship Statistics table.

While in combat, you'll see messaging that a cannon ball hit your ship in different spots. It is imperative that you repair the damage done (see ship commands below) or your ship will sink.

===Ship Roles===

Ship roles will provide you with bonuses, beginning at the adept rank, as you level them up. You will need to declare your role before taking part in a journey. The bonuses can range from more damage when firing a cannon to faster interaction with navigation. To declare your role, you will need to visit the NPC in Kraken's Fall. You {{boldmono|ASK OFFICIAL ABOUT DECLARE <role>}} in exchange for 10,000 silver. He is located in the Town Hall, the [[Inking Den]], in the Office of Employment. Each role has some specialties that pertain to its title. You can look at the {{boldmono|OSA ROLE}} command to see your status.

Role Experience can be earned performing the following tasks:
* Steering the ship
* Firing the cannons
* Loading the cannons
* Repairing the ship
* Razing an enemy ship
* Turning in salvaged crates
* Turning in a completed task board

The Role Ranks are Rookie, Novice, Adept, Veteran, Master. Each Role Rank earned provides a Role Bonus starting from the Novice rank (nothing is earned as a Rookie). The Role Bonuses earned at each rank stack with ones earned at the lower rank. Role Experience required increases each rank up to a maximum of 3000.

{| {{prettytable}}
|- style="background:#00004C; vertical-align: top; font-size: larger; color:white;"
| Ship Role || Role Rank || Role EXP || Role Bonus
|-
! rowspan=4 |Boatswain
| Novice || 100 || -
|-
| Adept || 500 || Provides a small bonus to each repair. Provides a very small chance to not consume repair materials.
|-
| Veteran || 1500 || Provides a medium bonus to each repair. Provides a small chance to not consume repair materials. Able to retrieve wood from the supply pile faster. Able to make repairs faster and see the health of each room of the ship.
|-
| Master || 3000 || Provides a large bonus to each repair. Provides a medium chance to not consume repair materials. Able to retrieve wood from the supply pile much faster. Able to make repairs much faster and see the health of each room of the ship.
|-
! rowspan=4 |Captain
| Novice || 100 || -
|-
| Adept || 500 || Provides a small bonus to pushing the capstan.
|-
| Veteran || 1500 || Provides a small bonus to damage and accuracy with cannons. Provides a small bonus to each repair. Able to turn the wheel faster.
|-
| Master || 3000 || Provides a small bonus to pushing the capstan and see the health of each room of the ship. Provides a medium bonus to cannon damage and accuracy. Provides a medium bonus to repaired damage. Able to fix the ship, load the cannons, and turn the wheel faster.
|-
! rowspan=4 |Cannoneer
| Novice || 100 || -
|-
| Adept || 500 || Provides a small bonus to cannon damage
|-
| Veteran || 1500 || Provides a medium bonus to cannon damage and a small bonus to accuracy. Able to retrieve cannon balls from the supply pile faster. Able to shoot a cannon faster. Able to load the cannon balls slightly faster. Has a chance to fire the cannon twice.
|-
| Master || 3000 || Provides a large bonus to cannon damage and a medium bonus to accuracy. Able to retrieve cannon balls from the supply pile much faster. Able to shoot a cannon much faster. Able to load the cannon balls faster. Has a chance to fire the cannon twice.
|-
! rowspan=4 |Navigator
| Novice || 100 || -
|-
| Adept || 500 || Able to manipulate the sails slightly faster. Able to steer the ship slightly faster.
|-
| Veteran || 1500 || Able to manipulate the sails, wheel and capstan slightly faster. Able to still see the map while in a storm. Able to JUMP from the CROW'S NEST to one of the following locations: helm, bow, deck, pier, and dock. Able to TURN the WHEEL at SHIP during the boarding engagement to speed up the process.
|-
| Master || 3000 || Able to manipulate the sails, capstan, and steer the ship much faster. Able to JUMP from the CROW'S NEST to one of the following locations: helm, bow, deck, pier, and dock. Able to still see the map while in a storm. Provides a large bonus to pushing the capstan. Able to TURN the WHEEL at SHIP during the boarding engagement to speed up the process.
|-
! rowspan=4 |Swashbuckler
| Novice || 100 || -
|-
| Adept || 500 || Provides a small bonus to avoid arrow volleys, cannon shrapnel, and cannon barrages.
|-
| Veteran || 1500 || Provides a small bonus to avoid arrow volleys, cannon shrapnel, and cannon barrages. Able to JUMP from the CROW'S NEST to one of the following locations: helm, bow, deck, port, dock and enemy ship when boarded. Provides a small bonus to damage with cannons
|-
| Master || 3000 || Provides a medium bonus to avoid arrow volleys, cannon shrapnel, and cannon barrages. Able to JUMP from the CROW'S NEST to one of the following locations: helm, bow, deck, port, dock and enemy ship when boarded. Provides a medium bonus to damage and accuracy with cannons. Able to shoot the cannons faster. Has a chance to fire the cannon twice.

|}

===Ship & Sailing Basics===

====Setting Sail====
To launch your ship, you will need to find the dock handler outside the pier on Deadeye's Road. You can {{boldmono|RETRIEVE}}, {{boldmono|STORE}}, or {{boldmono|STOCK}} your ship here. Retrieving will find an empty spot along the pier and launch your ship for you to use. If you are taking a quick break between voyages, avoid the retrieval fee by leaving your ship at the pier. Just remember that all ships are stored after two hours docked or four hours stationary on the ocean for system efficiency. After you have successfully retrieved your ship, you can find it out on the pier. The handler will tell you which space on the pier your ship occupies.

The absolute minimum the sloop is stocked with on retrieval is 25 of each material; the retrieval fee covers half of your supplies and the ability to launch your ship. If you want more, you can {{boldmono|STOCK}} your ship with {{boldmono|WOOD}} or {{boldmono|CANNON}} balls, and it will fill up your cargo supplies for your adventure. Cannon balls are 100 silvers each and wood is 100 silvers a plank. You can avoid this extra fee if you would like to immediately board an enemy ship and take over some of their supplies.

Once you reach your ship, you can {{boldmono|GO SHIP}} (sloop, brigantine, etc.) to have the gangplank deployed. Once on your ship, you can either {{boldmono|PULL GANGPLANK}} or {{boldmono|PUSH GANGPLANK}} to deploy or retract it. It is best to familiarize yourself with the layout of your ship prior to {{boldmono|DEPART}}ing on your journey.

#{{boldmono|RETRIEVE}}
#{{boldmono|STOCK}}
#{{boldmono|PUSH GANGPLANK}} deploys your gangplank and {{boldmono|PULL GANGPLANK}} retracts it. You cannot deploy your gangplank into the middle of the ocean. You can only deploy it at a port or when engaged with another ship and in boarding range.
#{{boldmono|DEPART}} can be used when you are ready to start your voyage from a port.

====Sailing and Steering Your Ship====

Use the map located in the Captain's Quarters to gain your bearing based on the nautical map name. Each 50-room block has its own unique identifier and the [[#The Ocean|ocean map]] will give you an idea as to which block you're in. At this time, there is no bias in what type of enemy you get based upon where you are in the map, so sail freely!

There is messaging when the ship moves that indicates the state of the sails of your ship. This messaging was added to help players identify if they forgot to handle their sails. If you or your crewmates are able, consider casting [[Call Wind (912)|call wind]] or [[Breeze (612)|breeze]] on your sails, as this will speed you along as you make way.

{|{{prettytable}}
|- style="background:#00004C; vertical-align: top; font-size: larger; color:white;"
|+Sail Messaging on Movement
|-
|No Sails||The man o' war drifts slowly north, its sails fully raised.
|-
|Other Sails||The man o' war cuts through the ocean, heading north.
|-
|Full Sails||The man o' war cuts through the ocean, heading north at full speed.
|-
|}

You have {{boldmono|TURNed}} your wheel in a direction, you will no longer be able to turn it in that same direction again.

<pre{{log2}}>turn wheel port
You grab hold of the maple wheel and do your best to steer the ship toward the bustling port.

turn wheel port
The maple wheel is already turned that way!</pre>

#{{boldmono|PUSH CAPSTAN}} to raise the anchor. You can {{boldmono|KICK}} the capstan to deploy it again.
#{{boldmono|LOWER SAIL}} to get more wind and {{boldmono|RAISE}} sails to get less. This will impact how fast you can sail. If you are sailing a larger ship you will need to manipulate all the sails.
#{{boldmono|TURN WHEEL <DIRECTION>}} will allow you to steer your ship. After you steer your ship you will need to wait for the wind to carry it into the next area. {{boldmono|TURN WHEEL SHIP}} will start navigating for a boarding process. {{boldmono|TURN WHEEL PORT}} will sail you to safety if you're at a port.
#{{boldmono|LOOK MAP}} in the Captain's Quarters will allow you to see where you are on the ocean.

====Stormy Weather====

{{boldmono|ASK HANDLER ABOUT WEATHER}} before going out to get an idea of which oceans to steer clear of or toward! Each area of the Tenebrous Cauldron, the Great Western Sea, and the Eastern Seaboard may have different weather. Storms can have the following effects:

#Crew members have a chance to experience some maneuvers if they're out on the deck during a storm.
#The storm can cause your ship to misbehave, including steering your ship in a different direction and increasing the time it takes to reach a new area.
#Enemy ships are more dangerous. You will face ships potentially out of your league and more difficult ships more often.

<pre{{log2}}>The dock handler says, "Based on recent weather reports, here is what the ocean is lookin' like as of right now."

The Tenebrous Cauldron:
North Blue: Light winds with partial clouds
South Blue: Calm seas and blue skies
West Blue: Light winds with partial clouds
East Blue: Calm seas and blue skies

The Great Western Sea
The Obsidian Trench: Light winds with partial clouds
The Obsidian Sea: Light winds with partial clouds
Sea of Lazuli: Light winds with partial clouds
Kestrel Sea: Light winds with partial clouds
Cephalod Straits: Heavy winds and rain with dark skies
Darkstone Bay: Light winds with partial clouds
Cobalt Depths: Light winds with partial clouds
Deep Viridian Sea: Calm seas and blue skies
Lucky Seaway: Calm seas and blue skies
Maelstrom Bay: Light winds with partial clouds
The Mirkewater: Calm seas and blue skies
Southron Sea: Calm seas and blue skies
Emerald Waters: Light winds with partial clouds
The Frostmain: Heavy winds and rain with dark skies

Eastern Seaboard
Gwyrd Muirne: Light winds with partial clouds
Muirne Cailt: Light winds with partial clouds
Gulf of Bhoreas: Light winds with partial clouds
Indigo Trenches: Calm seas and blue skies
Bay of Anguillids: Light winds with partial clouds
Caligean Sea: Light winds with partial clouds
Sea of Mists: Light winds with partial clouds</pre>

====Engaging in Battles====

Cannon balls should be taken onto the deck of your ship to load the cannons. You can only {{boldmono|FIRE}} your cannon if you are engaged with an enemy.

#{{boldmono|GET CANNON BALL}} from your cargo hold then move to your cannon and {{boldmono|LOAD}} it. You are limited to loading your cannons to the total number of cannons per side. Cannon balls are temporary and will self-destruct if not used.
#{{boldmono|LOAD CANNON}}
#{{boldmono|FIRE CANNON}} - you can only fire if you're engaged with an enemy ship prior to boarding.

====Boarding a Ship====

Once you are within range of the enemy ship, you will be able to board. You will receive messaging about the ship being almost in boarding range and then receive this message:

<pre{{log2}}>The sides of the <other ship> collide against your <ship>! Several ropes with claw-shaped hooks on the end find purchase into the railing of your <ship>. Battle cries sound off as those on the <other ship> prepare to board!</pre>

There are ambush traps possible. The number of ambushes that can occur depends on the size of your ship and are randomized between 1 and the maximum number possible. You will not receive an ambush trap when leaving a room.

{|{{prettytable}}
|+ Ambush Traps
|-
!Ship!!Max Possible
|-
|Sloop ||1
|-
|Brigantine ||2
|-
|Carrack ||3
|-
|Galleon ||4
|-
|Frigate ||4
|-
|Man o'war ||6
|}

See flag information below for more information on pirate spawn rate.

Once you have razed the ship, you will no longer be able to empty the Captain's Quarters and you will get the following message:

<pre{{log2}}>
The battle-marred brigantine rapidly descends beneath the cold, dark waters.
You gain some experience!
You gain some fame!
You gain role experience!
You have earned some notoriety.
Your reputation with Kraken's Fall just got better.
</pre>

#{{boldmono|PUSH GANGPLANK}}
#{{boldmono|GO GANGPLANK}}
#{{boldmono|LISTEN}} while on the enemy ship to see how many of the enemy are left.
#{{boldmono|SEARCH}} the treasure pile after you've defeated the boss.
#{{boldmono|RAZE}} to destroy the ship.

====Ship Flag Settings====
You can now use {{boldmono|SHIP FLAG}} on your ship. If you're not the captain, this only displays which flag the captain is flying. This flag is for mechanical use only. The command has a 15 minute cooldown per use. You are at "Neutral" by default.

* White Flag prevents PVE/ENEMY boats from spawning against your ship. This will NOT stop a boat that is already spawned for you or if you're already engaged.
* No Flag keeps your encounter rate at 30% chance. No Flag provides 4 minute encounter immunity after sinking an enemy ship.
* Black flag raises your encounter rate to 40% chance. Black Flag provides 3 minute encounter immunity after sinking an enemy ship. This also increases creature spawn rate.

====Restocking and Fixing Your Ship====

Below deck in the cargo hold, you can find wood and cannon balls. It is a good idea to restock your wood and cannon balls to full prior to starting your journey. Your ship will have a half-supply of wood planks and cannon balls when retrieved from storage. The wood is used to {{boldmono|FIX}} rooms that have taken damage from cannon fire. {{boldmono|ASSESS}} from any room on your ship to get a readout of damage in that room. Boatswains (veteran rank and above) and Captains (master rank) can get a readout of all damage to each room of the ship. Your ship's health is a formula of the hull strength by a multiplier. As it takes damage, it detracts from a total health pool. Repair any damage received before taking too much and sinking.

You can store things in the cargo bin on the ship; this is the only place that is safe from the janitor.

#{{boldmono|ASSESS}} while used on your ship will give you a readout of any damage in that specific room.
#{{boldmono|GET WOOD}} from your Cargo Hold then move to where your ship took damage to repair it.
#{{boldmono|FIX}}

If you have a supply crate, you can {{boldmono|PUT CRATE ON WOOD}} or {{boldmono|PUT CRATE ON BALLS}} to restock them. You can {{boldmono|LOOK WOOD}} or {{boldmono|LOOK BALLS}} to check supplies.

====Interacting with the Ocean====

If you are thrown from the ship, you can climb back up onto the ship you fell off of even if the anchor is up.

*{{boldmono|LOOK OCEAN}} will let you glance out from your ship's deck to see where you are on the Tenebrous Cauldron. You can use {{boldmono|PEER}} in directions to glance ahead. The crow's nest will allow you to peer a little farther.
*{{boldmono|WATCH OCEAN}} will let you keep an up-to-date glance at the ocean room as your ship sails. This information will go to the familiar window.
*{{boldmono|JUMP}} can be used on the main deck of the ship to jump into the ocean. You'll want to drop your anchor before doing this!
*{{boldmono|CONSIDER}} will let you check the status of the weather on the ocean.
*{{boldmono|PEER}} will let you look at the ocean in the directions provided. If you are in the crow's nest you will be able to peer an extra room out.

If you have an item with the noun ''spyglass'' or ''telescope'' and you {{boldmono|PEER}} with it in your hand, you will be able to see one additional room. This provides for being able to see two rooms when on deck and three rooms when in the crow's nest.

====Quick Command List====

* PUSH/PULL GANGPLANK to extend or draw in the gangplank.
* RAISE/LOWER SAIL to adjust speed.
* TURN WHEEL any cardinal or ordinal direction for normal travel.
* TURN WHEEL PORT to steer the ship at a port in the same room as your ship.
* TURN WHEEL SHIP to start a boarding action when an enemy ship is present.
* PUSH/KICK CAPSTAN to raise and lower anchor.
* LOAD CANNON while holding a cannon ball to load your cannons.
* FIRE CANNON to fire a cannon at an enemy ship when engaged.
* LOOK <OBJECT> has some information for some of the objects on your ship if you get confused.
* FIX damage in appropriate rooms.
* LOOK MAP for a general readout of where you are.
* DEPART to set sail once your gangplank is retracted and anchor is up.
* ASSESS to determine the condition of the room you are in and health.
* LOOK OCEAN to take a quick look at the sea your ship is in.
* WATCH OCEAN to keep a continuous eye on the ocean. This will display in your familiar window.
* CONSIDER will let you check the status of the weather on the ocean.
* PEER will let you look at the ocean in the directions provided. If you are in the crow's nest you will be able to peer an extra room out.
* JUMP can be used from the main deck where the gangplank resides to dive into the water. From there you can climb back onto the ship.
* RAZE is used on the enemy ship when all enemies are gone.
* LISTEN is used on the enemy ship to get an idea of how many units are left.

==Future Releases==

More is planned to be released to this system via a phased approach. Visit the #open-sea-adventures channel on the Official Discord for more information.

==Common Questions and Answers==

'''What happens when I log out of the game while I'm on the ocean on my ship?'''<br/>
When you log back in, you will be at the last port you departed from and you will have a fine for your ship being left out at sea.

'''Can I travel by ship to other towns?'''<br/>
Yes. There are ports at River's Rest, Teras Isle, Wehnimer's Landing, Kraken's Fall, Icemule, Ta'Vaalor, Solhaven, Brisker's Cove, and Nielira Harbor.

'''Where is my ship stored?'''<br/>
Your ships are stored at the port either where they were last retrieved, or where they last moored. Ships can be transported for a fee.

'''Is [[fishing]] available?'''<br/>
You can fish at Kraken's Fall, but not from your ship.

==Credits==

{|{{prettytable}} width="50%"
|-
!bgcolor="#fafeff" colspan=3|Project Lead, Concept, Design: Retser
|-
|bgcolor="#fafeff" colspan=3|'''Kraken's Fall Lead: Thandiwe'''
|-
|rowspan=12|Buildings
|Elysani
|The Intoxicating Flora, Mystigoggles Magicorium
|-
|Kynlee
|The Bait 'N Weight Shack, Fishing Pier
|-
|Naionna
|Bejewled Booty, The Naked Fauna, Rising Pint, The Soup Bone
|-
|Netz
|Rock Lobster
|-
|Sindin
|Brewmaster's Tap, Sea Hag's Roost, Storm Petrel's Wing, The Threadbare Admiral
|-
|Thandiwe
|Academy of the Bos'n, All Hands, Boarding House, Chip n' Dwight's, Fighting the Helm, Grub, Gruel, and Grog, Guard Tower, Inking Den, Irosah's Armaments, Knife's Edge, Kraken's Fall Jailhouse, The Last Frontier, Lean To, Maritime Defenses, Molskroen Hall, Sailor's Solace, Sunfist Outpost, Swabbing Starts, Weather Station, Yardarm's Skirt
|-
|Tivvy
|Vexillology Visions
|-
|Quilic
|Adventurer's Guild, Bank, Bushybrow's Collectibles, Unburied Treasures
|-
|Valyrka
|Lighthouse
|-
|Vanah
|Leaf and Bean
|-
|Xayle
|Captain's Cup, Kelpie Beds, The Melting Pot, Sailcloth Findings
|-
|Xeraphina
|Bowsprit's Maiden, Cartwright, Citizenship Office, Forges of the Kraken, The Peaceful Porpoise
|-
|rowspan=2|Paint
|Flannihan
|Kraken's Fall Hunting Grounds
|-
|Thandiwe
|Kraken's Fall, Pier, Main Gate, Logging colony
|-
|NPCs
|
|Thandiwe, Netz, Naionna, Xeraphina, Retser, Modrian, Kynlee
|-
|Messaging
|
|Netz
|-
|Creatures
|
|Kynlee, Thandiwe, Retser
|-
|bgcolor="#fafeff" colspan=3|'''Ocean Lead: Retser'''
|-
|Paint
|
|Valyrka, Naionna
|-
|Messaging
|
|Valyrka, Naionna, Netz
|-
|Shape and mapping
|
|Grackner, Sook, Thandiwe, Naos, Retser
|-
|Ocean systems
|
|Naos, Retser
|-
|bgcolor="#fafeff" colspan=3|'''Standard Systems Lead: Retser'''
|-
|Coding
|
|Modrian, Kynlee, Thandiwe, Naos, Retser
|-
|bgcolor="#fafeff" colspan=3|'''OSA Systems Lead: Retser'''
|-
|Ship Paint
|
|Elidi
|-
|Ship Food
|
|Mariath
|-
|Ship Cosmetics
|
|Elidi, Retser
|-
|Ship Cosmetic Systems
|
|Retser
|-
|Ship Building
|
|Retser
|-
|NPCs
|
|Retser
|-
|Combat
|
|Retser
|-
|Creatures
|
|Retser
|-
|bgcolor="#fafeff" colspan=3|'''QC Team'''
|-
|
|
|Flannihan, Mariath, Xayle, Valyrka, Isten, Tivvy, Vanah, Sleken, Modrian, Itzel, Kynlee, Naos, Retser, Kveta
|-
|}

==See Also==

* [[/saved posts|Saved posts]]
* [[/maps | Various maps]]
* [[Flotilla History]]

[[Category:Open Sea Adventures]]

Talk:Open Sea Adventures/maps

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== Updates and Suggestions to the Arianiss Map ==

I created this map in a way that should make it easy to update. Please contact me for adding/removing rooms. Also, if anyone has suggestions, please let me know those too. Thank you! [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 21:36, 9 June 2022 (CDT)

== OSA Ocean Issues ==

(this is also being used for a bug report and so some issues will be relatively minor)

* There "appears to be" a discrepancy between the official Elanith map and the OSA map. The OSA map has Caligos Isle in a position that "appears to be" where the ruins of Ta'Ashrim are per the Elanith map. I quote "appears to be" because, while the OSA map lines up with the curves of Elanith, this is all player speculation until we get EN ports and see how the OSA map interacts with the Elanith map.

* The travel captain OCEAN conversation has inaccurate information.

== OSA Ocean Issues Explanation ==

So in July of 2020 an initial map was uploaded. In September of 2020 changes were made and in November of 2020 a new map was released. However, some of the old information remains with the ship map and dock handler. Further, I don't believe the travel captain was revisited to update the OCEAN conversation as many points in that no longer make sense (although they do under the July 2020 map).

== Timeline of Changes ==

* September of 2023: Ta'Nalfein port added
* January of 2023: Brisker's Cove port added
* December of 2022: Icemule port (and overland trail) added
* September of 2022: Ta'Vaalor port (and overland trail) added

Missoni (prime)

2023-04-07T06:10:03Z

WINTERDAWN: changed to internal links

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|hometown=New Ta'Faendryl
|class=Sorcerer
|profession=Extraplanar Scholar, Baleglazier
|religion=Aeia and The Huntress
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'''Missoni Sabretache Faendryl''' is a [[dark elf]] [[sorcerer]] from New Ta'Faendryl. She resides in Vornavis, where she is the curator of the Twilight Gallery, and maintains a laboratory in Wehnimer's Landing, where she studies demonology.

== History ==

Missoni was born in New Ta'Faendryl to Alkaios Nisanur Faendryl and Vaishnavi Illaityn Faendryl.

== Storyline Vignettes and Letters ==

'''- [[/Echoed Whispers|Echoed Whispers]]:''' Nations on the Brink (5123)

'''- [[/A Special Order|A Special Order]]:''' Of Rooks and Reivers (5123)

'''- [[/A Letter to Dikirk|A Letter to Dikirk]]:''' Of Rooks and Reivers (5123)

'''- [[/Desperately Seeking Talon|Desperately Seeking Talon]]:''' Nations on the Brink (5123)

== In Character Lectures and Interviews ==

'''- [[Mist Harbor Library Lectures - 2022-08-14 - Missoni on Faendryl Glasswork (log) | Faendryl Glasswork]]:''' Mist Harbor Library Lecture (5122)

'''- [[Elanthian Vogue: Autumn 5122 | The Beauty of Baleglass]]:''' Elanthian Vogue (5122)

Town purchasable UCS gear

2023-04-05T07:25:35Z

WINTERDAWN: /* Ta'Illistim */

=[[Brisker's Cove]]=

: [[Niima's Embrace]]

:: {| {{prettytable}}
|some enruned cloth-of-silver handwraps || 4x
|-
| ||
|-
|some enruned cloth-of-silver footwraps || 4x
|}

=[[Icemule]]=

: [[Stout hoarbeam cart]]

:: {| {{prettytable}}
|some white wolf hide handwraps || 0x
|-
|some polar bear fur handwraps || 0x
|-
|some leather mithril-studded gloves || 1x
|-
|some gold-runed tiger skin handwraps || 4x
|-
| ||
|-
|some white wolf hide footwraps || 0x
|-
|some polar bear fur footwraps || 0x
|-
|some leather mithril-toed boots || 1x
|-
|some gold-runed tiger skin footwraps || 4x
|}

: [[Brother Stumbleskink's Emporium]]

:: {| {{prettytable}}
|some ornate white brocade handwraps || 0x; sanctified
|-
| ||
|-
|some ornate white brocade footwraps || 0x; sanctified
|}

=[[Kharam Dzu]]=

: [[Borthuum Company Store Clerical Supply]]

:: {| {{prettytable}}
|some backstitched gloves || 0x; holy armament
|-
| ||
|-
|some braided rope and cork sandals || 0x; holy armament
|}

: [[Borthuum Company Store Weaponry]]

:: {| {{prettytable}}
|a pair of siren lizard skin gloves || 0x
|-
|some pyrothag hide gauntlets || 4x; backroom
|-
| ||
|-
|a pair of siren lizard skin boots || 0x
|-
|a pair of thrak hide boots || 4x; backroom
|}

=[[Mist Harbor]]=

: [[Seasonal weapon and armor carts]] (winter)

:: {| {{prettytable}}
|some pure white leather gloves with a snowflake on the palm || 4x; cold flares
|-
|a vultite-studded [[cestus]] with a pale white handwrap || ?
|-
| ||
|-
|a pair of dark blue leather boots with white vaalin buckles || 4x; cold flares
|}

: [[Seasonal weapon and armor carts]] (fall)

:: {| {{prettytable}}
|a pair of dark grey spidersilk hand-wraps || 4x
|-
|a pair of black onyx-studded gauntlets || 4x; CER 5 damage weighted
|-
| ||
|-
|a pair of dark grey spidersilk foot-wraps || 4x
|-
|a pair of black onyx-toed boots || 4x; CER 5 damage weighted
|}

: [[Rose's Arms Depot]]

:: {| {{prettytable}}
|a pair of long grass-seamed gloves || 0x
|-
|some leather bamboo-buttoned gloves || 0x; pocketed; backroom
|-
| ||
|-
|some plaited ti leaf sandals || 0x
|-
|a pair of frond-woven sandals || 0x; pocketed; backroom
|}

=[[River's Rest]]=

: [[Hortinger's Armory]]

:: {| {{prettytable}}
|some ebon leather gauntlets || 2x
|-
|a pair of sailcloth handwraps || 3x
|-
|a pair of worn sailcloth gloves || 4x; backroom
|-
| ||
|-
|a pair of woven leather sandals || 2x
|-
|a pair of beaded moccasins || 3x
|-
|some dark leather boots || 4x; backroom
|}

=[[Solhaven]]=

: [[Dargeur's Armors]]

:: {| {{prettytable}}
|a pair of russet leather gloves || 2x
|-
|a pair of ebon cotton handwraps || 3x
|-
|a pair of ashen leather gauntlets || 4x; pocketed; backroom
|-
| ||
|-
|some dark leather boots || 2x
|-
|a pair of viridian linen footwraps || 3x
|-
|a pair of braided leather sandals || 4x; pocketed; backroom
|}

=[[Ta'Illistim]]=

: [[Ta'Illistim Weaponry]] ([[Script Go2|RNUM]]: 602)

:: {| {{prettytable}}
|some olivine leather gauntlets || 1x
|-
|some russet suede handwraps || 2x
|-
|some honey suede gloves || 3x
|-
|some layered mocha suede gloves with mithglin studding || 4x; pocketed; backroom
|-
|some ebon kidskin handwraps with silver inlay || 4x; pocketed; backroom
|-
| ||
|-
|some olivine leather boots || 1x
|-
|some russet linen footwraps || 2x
|-
|some honey suede slippers || 3x
|-
|some layered mocha suede boots with mithglin buckles || 4x; pocketed; backroom
|-
|a pair of ebon kidskin sandals with silver inlay || 4x; pocketed; backroom
|}

=[[Ta'Vaalor]]=

: [[Ta'Vaalor Weaponry]]

:: {| {{prettytable}}
|some tanned leather gloves || 0x
|-
|some gilded suede handwraps || 4x; pocketed; backroom
|-
| ||
|-
|some light leather boots || 0x
|-
|some gilded suede footwraps || 4x; pocketed; backroom
|}

=[[Wehnimer's Landing]]=

: [[Tykel's Arms]]

:: {| {{prettytable}}
|some leather gauntlets || 0x
|-
|some leather handwraps || 4x; pocketed; backroom
|-
| ||
|-
|some leather boots || 0x
|-
|some leather footwraps || 4x; pocketed; backroom
|}

: [[Wehnimer's Landing Clerics' Shop]]

:: {| {{prettytable}}
|some white ora-studded gauntlets || 2x; sanctified; pocketed; backroom
|-
| ||
|-
|some white ora-studded boots || 2x; sanctified; pocketed; backroom
|}

: [[Gratkor's Cart]]

:: {| {{prettytable}}
|-
|a jade-studded leather [[cestus]] || 0x
|}

=[[Zul Logoth]]=

: [[Brutarius Kodel Weaponry ]]

:: {| {{prettytable}}
|some leather gauntlets || 0x
|-
|some rigid metal-studded gloves || 0x; pocketed; backroom
|-
| ||
|-
|a pair of leather boots || 0x
|-
|a pair of dark steel-toed boots || 0x; pocketed; backroom
|}

[[Category:Lists]]

Town purchasable UCS gear

2023-04-05T07:24:05Z

WINTERDAWN: /* Ta'Illistim */ updated inventory

=[[Brisker's Cove]]=

: [[Niima's Embrace]]

:: {| {{prettytable}}
|some enruned cloth-of-silver handwraps || 4x
|-
| ||
|-
|some enruned cloth-of-silver footwraps || 4x
|}

=[[Icemule]]=

: [[Stout hoarbeam cart]]

:: {| {{prettytable}}
|some white wolf hide handwraps || 0x
|-
|some polar bear fur handwraps || 0x
|-
|some leather mithril-studded gloves || 1x
|-
|some gold-runed tiger skin handwraps || 4x
|-
| ||
|-
|some white wolf hide footwraps || 0x
|-
|some polar bear fur footwraps || 0x
|-
|some leather mithril-toed boots || 1x
|-
|some gold-runed tiger skin footwraps || 4x
|}

: [[Brother Stumbleskink's Emporium]]

:: {| {{prettytable}}
|some ornate white brocade handwraps || 0x; sanctified
|-
| ||
|-
|some ornate white brocade footwraps || 0x; sanctified
|}

=[[Kharam Dzu]]=

: [[Borthuum Company Store Clerical Supply]]

:: {| {{prettytable}}
|some backstitched gloves || 0x; holy armament
|-
| ||
|-
|some braided rope and cork sandals || 0x; holy armament
|}

: [[Borthuum Company Store Weaponry]]

:: {| {{prettytable}}
|a pair of siren lizard skin gloves || 0x
|-
|some pyrothag hide gauntlets || 4x; backroom
|-
| ||
|-
|a pair of siren lizard skin boots || 0x
|-
|a pair of thrak hide boots || 4x; backroom
|}

=[[Mist Harbor]]=

: [[Seasonal weapon and armor carts]] (winter)

:: {| {{prettytable}}
|some pure white leather gloves with a snowflake on the palm || 4x; cold flares
|-
|a vultite-studded [[cestus]] with a pale white handwrap || ?
|-
| ||
|-
|a pair of dark blue leather boots with white vaalin buckles || 4x; cold flares
|}

: [[Seasonal weapon and armor carts]] (fall)

:: {| {{prettytable}}
|a pair of dark grey spidersilk hand-wraps || 4x
|-
|a pair of black onyx-studded gauntlets || 4x; CER 5 damage weighted
|-
| ||
|-
|a pair of dark grey spidersilk foot-wraps || 4x
|-
|a pair of black onyx-toed boots || 4x; CER 5 damage weighted
|}

: [[Rose's Arms Depot]]

:: {| {{prettytable}}
|a pair of long grass-seamed gloves || 0x
|-
|some leather bamboo-buttoned gloves || 0x; pocketed; backroom
|-
| ||
|-
|some plaited ti leaf sandals || 0x
|-
|a pair of frond-woven sandals || 0x; pocketed; backroom
|}

=[[River's Rest]]=

: [[Hortinger's Armory]]

:: {| {{prettytable}}
|some ebon leather gauntlets || 2x
|-
|a pair of sailcloth handwraps || 3x
|-
|a pair of worn sailcloth gloves || 4x; backroom
|-
| ||
|-
|a pair of woven leather sandals || 2x
|-
|a pair of beaded moccasins || 3x
|-
|some dark leather boots || 4x; backroom
|}

=[[Solhaven]]=

: [[Dargeur's Armors]]

:: {| {{prettytable}}
|a pair of russet leather gloves || 2x
|-
|a pair of ebon cotton handwraps || 3x
|-
|a pair of ashen leather gauntlets || 4x; pocketed; backroom
|-
| ||
|-
|some dark leather boots || 2x
|-
|a pair of viridian linen footwraps || 3x
|-
|a pair of braided leather sandals || 4x; pocketed; backroom
|}

=[[Ta'Illistim]]=

: [[Ta'Illistim Armory]] ([[Script Go2|RNUM]]: 4012)

:: {| {{prettytable}}
|some olivine leather gauntlets || 1x
|-
|some russet suede handwraps || 2x
|-
|some honey suede gloves || 3x
|-
|some layered mocha suede gloves with mithglin studding || 4x; pocketed; backroom
|-
|some ebon kidskin handwraps with silver inlay || 4x; pocketed; backroom
|-
| ||
|-
|some olivine leather boots || 1x
|-
|some russet linen footwraps || 2x
|-
|some honey suede slippers || 3x
|-
|some layered mocha suede boots with mithglin buckles || 4x; pocketed; backroom
|-
|a pair of ebon kidskin sandals with silver inlay || 4x; pocketed; backroom
|}

=[[Ta'Vaalor]]=

: [[Ta'Vaalor Weaponry]]

:: {| {{prettytable}}
|some tanned leather gloves || 0x
|-
|some gilded suede handwraps || 4x; pocketed; backroom
|-
| ||
|-
|some light leather boots || 0x
|-
|some gilded suede footwraps || 4x; pocketed; backroom
|}

=[[Wehnimer's Landing]]=

: [[Tykel's Arms]]

:: {| {{prettytable}}
|some leather gauntlets || 0x
|-
|some leather handwraps || 4x; pocketed; backroom
|-
| ||
|-
|some leather boots || 0x
|-
|some leather footwraps || 4x; pocketed; backroom
|}

: [[Wehnimer's Landing Clerics' Shop]]

:: {| {{prettytable}}
|some white ora-studded gauntlets || 2x; sanctified; pocketed; backroom
|-
| ||
|-
|some white ora-studded boots || 2x; sanctified; pocketed; backroom
|}

: [[Gratkor's Cart]]

:: {| {{prettytable}}
|-
|a jade-studded leather [[cestus]] || 0x
|}

=[[Zul Logoth]]=

: [[Brutarius Kodel Weaponry ]]

:: {| {{prettytable}}
|some leather gauntlets || 0x
|-
|some rigid metal-studded gloves || 0x; pocketed; backroom
|-
| ||
|-
|a pair of leather boots || 0x
|-
|a pair of dark steel-toed boots || 0x; pocketed; backroom
|}

[[Category:Lists]]

Ta'Illistim Weaponry

2023-04-05T07:23:40Z

WINTERDAWN:

{{NPC Shops
|itemtype = weapon
|town = Ta'Illistim
|1 = It is located in the northeast part of Shimmarglin Court.
|roomname = Ta'Illistim Weaponry
|desc = Nearly dark and extremely warm, the weaponry resonates with the rythmic sound of a hammer on anvil coming from a back room. An iron brazier casts a dim reddish light across the shop, glinting off the weapons displayed on various racks. You also see a silvery-blue roiling fog-filled chamber, the weaponry clerk, an engraved mithglin sign and a carved maoral counter with a piece of iron on it.
|inventory =   Catalog
<nowiki>----------------------------------------------------------------------</nowiki>
1. a hook-claw 17. a hatchet
2. a sidesword 18. a khopesh
3. a sabre 19. a spikestar
4. a gaesum 20. a massuelle
5. a spiked-staff 21. a gauntlet-sword
6. a falx 22. a claidhmore
7. a taavish 23. some olivine leather gauntlets
8. a balestarius 24. some olivine leather boots
9. a pavade 25. some russet suede handwraps
10. a sarissa 26. some russet linen footwraps
11. a guisarme 27. some honey suede gloves
12. a braquemar 28. some honey suede slippers
13. a fleuret 29. a silver-inlaid carmiln runestaff
14. a sword-breaker 30. a faenor-set deringo runestaff
15. a schiavona 31. an opal-twined pale mesille runestaff
16. a langseax 32. a vaalin-banded orase runestaff

Backroom Catalog
----------------------------------------------------------------------
33. some layered mocha suede gloves (with mithglin studding) 35. some ebon kidskin handwraps (with silver inlay)
34. some layered mocha suede boots (with mithglin buckles) 36. a pair of ebon kidskin sandals (with silver inlay)
}}
Most items can be customized by color and material.

=== Customization options ===
<pre style="padding-left:0; padding-top:0; padding-bottom:0; border:none; background:none">
1. white 8. cyan 15. lavender
2. grey 9. green 16. golden
3. black 10. yellow 17. silvery
4. dark 11. brown 18. chrome
5. red 12. tan 19. brass
6. blue 13. orange 20. crimson
7. azure 14. purple

1. iron 3. imflass 5. vultite
2. mithril 4. mithglin
</pre>
[[Category: Weapon Shops]]

Backroom

2023-04-05T06:57:24Z

WINTERDAWN: /* Ta'Illistim */ armory no longer has a backroom while the weaponry does

{{TOCright}} An adventurer can gain '''backroom access''' to various stores throughout [[Elanthia]]. Once you become a preferred customer, you will be given the backroom catalog when you {{boldmono|ORDER}} from the merchant as well as a 10% discount at that merchant.

To gain access, you must purchase approximately fifty (50) items from the store; however, for the less-welcome races in particular towns, this may be one hundred (100) items. This can be done rapidly by purchasing the cheapest item offered by the merchant and placing it in a nearby barrel, for the experience.

== Stores With Backroom Access ==
{{big|THIS LIST IS VERY INCOMPLETE}}
===[[Brisker's Cove]]===
* Clothing, Containers, and Armor ([[The Tailor's Sister]])
* Containers, Clasps, and Lockpicking Equipment ([[Unfinished Fashion]])
* Weapon Shop ([[Niima's Embrace]])

===[[Cysaegir]]===
* Bowyer ([[Ariebaela's Archery Nook]])

===[[Icemule Trace]]===
*Alchemy Shop ([[Sorena's Emporium]])
*Armory ([[Haldrick's Armory]])
*Cleric Shop ([[Brother Stumbleskink's Emporium]])
*General Store ([[Berrytoe's General Store]])
*Weapons Shop ([[Wineberry's Weapons]])

===[[Kharam Dzu]]===
* Bowyer ([[Big Snorri's Bows]])
* Cleric Shop ([[Borthuum Company Store Clerical Supply]])
* Weapon Shop ([[Borthuum Company Store Weaponry]])

===[[Mist Harbor]]===
* Armory ([[Island Armor]])
* Armory ([[Oleander's Defenses]])
* Cleric Shop ([[Mist Harbor Cleric Guild Shop]])
* Herbalist ([[Mist Harbor Herbalist]])
* Weapon Shop ([[Island Arms]])
* Weapon Shop ([[Rose's Arms Depot]])

===[[River's Rest]]===
* Armory ([[Hortinger's Armory]])

===[[Solhaven]]===
* Armory ([[Dargeur's Armors]])
* Boutique ([[Caelyna's Boutique]])
* Muffins ([[Muffinsmith Stall]])
* Perfumery ([[Mistsheen Annex]])
* Post Office ([[Imperial Courier Office, 'Haven]])
* Religious Items ([[Shadows and Symbols]])
* Runestaves ([[Magi's Stave]])

===[[Ta'Illistim]]===
* Weaponry ([[Ta'Illistim Weaponry]])
* Boutique ([[Plume and Glove]])

===[[Ta'Vaalor]]===
* Bowyer ([[Vonder's Archery Supply]])
* Cleric Shop ([[Clentaran's Clerical Supply]])
* General Store ([[General Exchange]])
* Healer's Shop ([[Triage Station]])
* Magic Shop ([[Elantaran's Magic Supply]])
* Weapon Shop ([[Ta'Vaalor Weaponry]])

===[[Wehnimer's Landing]]===
*Alchemy Shop ([[Alchemist's House]])
*Armory ([[Aznell's Armory]])
*Bowyer ([[Quaeta's Fletcher Shop]])
*Cleric Shop ([[Wehnimer's Landing Clerics' Shop]])
*General Store ([[Wehnimer's Landing General Store]])
*Salon ([[Dari's Clothiers]])
*Weapons Shop ([[Tykel's Arms]])

===[[Zul Logoth]]===
* Weapon Shop ([[Brutarius Kodel Weaponry]])

[[category:Area Mechanics]]

Ta'Illistim Weaponry

2023-04-05T06:56:37Z

WINTERDAWN: added backroom

{{NPC Shops
|itemtype = weapon
|town = Ta'Illistim
|1 = It is located in the northeast part of Shimmarglin Court.
|roomname = Ta'Illistim Weaponry
|desc = Nearly dark and extremely warm, the weaponry resonates with the rythmic sound of a hammer on anvil coming from a back room. An iron brazier casts a dim reddish light across the shop, glinting off the weapons displayed on various racks. You also see a silvery-blue roiling fog-filled chamber, the weaponry clerk, an engraved mithglin sign and a carved maoral counter with a piece of iron on it.
|inventory =   Catalog
<nowiki>----------------------------------------------------------------------</nowiki>
1. a hook-claw 17. a hatchet
2. a sidesword 18. a khopesh
3. a sabre 19. a spikestar
4. a gaesum 20. a massuelle
5. a spiked-staff 21. a gauntlet-sword
6. a falx 22. a claidhmore
7. a taavish 23. some olivine leather gauntlets
8. a balestarius 24. some olivine leather boots
9. a pavade 25. some russet suede handwraps
10. a sarissa 26. some russet linen footwraps
11. a guisarme 27. some honey suede gloves
12. a braquemar 28. some honey suede slippers
13. a fleuret 29. a silver-inlaid carmiln runestaff
14. a sword-breaker 30. a faenor-set deringo runestaff
15. a schiavona 31. an opal-twined pale mesille runestaff
16. a langseax 32. a vaalin-banded orase runestaff

Backroom Catalog
----------------------------------------------------------------------
33. some layered mocha suede gloves 35. some ebon kidskin handwraps
34. some layered mocha suede boots 36. a pair of ebon kidskin sandals
}}
Most items can be customized by color and material.

=== Customization options ===
<pre style="padding-left:0; padding-top:0; padding-bottom:0; border:none; background:none">
1. white 8. cyan 15. lavender
2. grey 9. green 16. golden
3. black 10. yellow 17. silvery
4. dark 11. brown 18. chrome
5. red 12. tan 19. brass
6. blue 13. orange 20. crimson
7. azure 14. purple

1. iron 3. imflass 5. vultite
2. mithril 4. mithglin
</pre>
[[Category: Weapon Shops]]

Paerys Velethuil

2023-04-04T21:31:52Z

WINTERDAWN: consistency edit with year notation (revert if intentional)

{{storynpcbox
|storyline = Valley of Gold 
|gender = Male
|race = Elf 
|culture = Loenthra 
|life = Dead 
|hometown = Ta'Loenthra 
|relationships =
|alias =
|affiliation = }}

'''Paerys Velethuil Loenthra''' was a painter known for his mastery of the skill. He first made an appearance during the [[Valley of Gold]], during which he presented his esteemed paintings to the attendees. Among them, a painting for [[Orelwen Greyvael]], a handmaiden to the [[Argent Mirror]]. The paint's mixture had been secretly adulterated with a topical poison, and Orelwen fell ill as a result; her face was left permanently scarred. Meanwhile at Orelwen's invitation (to thank him for the painting he gifted her), Paerys visited the Shining City to promote his artwork. Adventurers soon discovered he had ulterior motives, and Paerys was detained for questioning regarding the poisonings.

A trial was held, and on 8/1/5119 Paerys was found guilty of assault upon members of the court, and conspiring to murder the Argent Mirror. During the course of the trial, he revealed that his family perished in the cataclysm of [[Talador]], on their way to visit him in [[Wehnimer's Landing]]. His hatred for humans as a result of their deaths, ultimately influenced his decision to target the Illistim monarch. He believed her a traitor to elvenkind for signing the treaty at Valley of Gold.

Paerys was sentenced to death by beheading, and died on Phoenatos 5, 5119. The location of his burial was a secret until 5123, when his corpse was been reanimated by the sorcerer [[Enomna]] in the Wraithenmist area of Ta'Illistim during [[Nations on the Brink]] storyline.

==Description==
At Valley of Gold, 7/24/5119
<pre{{log3}}>
You see Paerys Velethuil Loenthra.
He appears to be an Elf.
He is considerably shorter than average and has a scrawny physique. He appears to be in the meridian of life. He has rheumy amber eyes and pallid skin. He has wavy, coarse aureate hair framing his face and shoulders in a thickly layered mane. He has an oblong face, a straight nose and an upswept pointed ears, the tips of which point out from his hair.
He is in good shape.
He is wearing a round-brimmed grey leather hat, a blue-black razern pyramid medallion strung invertedly by a silver chain, a steel-buckled dull blue haversack, a high-neck pleated silk shirt with wide cuffs, a pair of slate grey leather gloves secured with sapphire buttons, some frayed granite-hued breeches, and some faded cerulean silk shoes.</pre>

== Death ==
<pre{{log2}}>
[Ta'Illistim, Caear Courtyard]
The illuminated domes of Ta'Illistim Keep rise overhead, each one tiled and sparkling with an abundance of mosaic decoration. Before the keep, the var widens to a half-moon shaped courtyard, which in turn is bordered by the edge of the city green. You also see a large wooden platform with some stuff on it.
Also here: Lady Sayilla, Lady Orelwen, Lord Aeriadrn, Lord Murstyr, Argent Mirror Myasara, Paerys, Ntyre, and many adventurers.

Aeriadrn recites:

"Paerys, you have been found guilty of assault on members of the Court and city. You have also been found guilty of conspiring to murder Argent Mirror Myasara Illistim, her Illumination, Head of House Illistim, Monarch of the Illistimi People, Defender of Ta'Illistim and Keeper of Knowledge."

Aeriadrn recites:

"For these crimes, you have been sentenced to die by having your head severed from your body."

Paerys folds his hands behind his back.

>l paerys
You see Paerys Velethuil Loenthra.
He appears to be an Elf.
He is considerably shorter than average and has a scrawny physique. He appears to be in the meridian of life. He has rheumy amber eyes and pallid skin. He has wavy, coarse aureate hair framing his face and shoulders in a thickly layered mane. He has an oblong face, a straight nose and an upswept pointed ears, the tips of which point out from his hair.
He is in good shape.
He is wearing a high-neck pleated silk shirt with wide cuffs, a pair of thick black iron manacles, some frayed granite-hued breeches, a heavy iron ball and chain with an ankle cuff, and some faded cerulean silk shoes.

Ntyre shoves Paerys to his knees.

>l ntyre
You see Ntyre.
He appears to be an Illistim Elf.
It is difficult to properly see his features as the dark cotton hood of his robe is pulled down over his face.
He is in good shape.
He is holding a wide vaalorn beheading sword in his right hand.
He is wearing a dark cotton robe, a small dark pouch, a pair of leather breeches, and some black leather boots.

Aeriadrn recites:
"Do you have any final words?"

Paerys nods slowly.

Paerys recites:
"See now - how your Mirror treats the plight of Elvenkind. Our people are rewarded with an Alliance by those who would inevitably betray them. I have no regrets."

Paerys says, "Do it."

Ntyre grabs Paerys' head and lowers it to the block before taking a step back.

Aeriadrn recites:

"May the Patrons guide your path swiftly to the Gate."

Ntyre lifts his sword high above his head before dropping it downward with a single, mighty blow.

Paerys slumps over, severed head rolls a few times on the ground before it stills - the head twitches gruesomely, his bloodied lips spasming in his death throes, as he stares hatefully into the crowd before going still.

As the head rolls away from the body, you are splattered with droplets of blood.

Myasara nods.

Myasara just climbed up a massive stairway.
</pre>

Paerys Velethuil

2023-04-04T21:30:14Z

WINTERDAWN: /* Death */

{{storynpcbox
|storyline = Valley of Gold 
|gender = Male
|race = Elf 
|culture = Loenthra 
|life = Dead 
|hometown = Ta'Loenthra 
|relationships =
|alias =
|affiliation = }}

'''Paerys Velethuil Loenthra''' was a painter known for his mastery of the skill. He first made an appearance during the [[Valley of Gold]], during which he presented his esteemed paintings to the attendees. Among them, a painting for [[Orelwen Greyvael]], a handmaiden to the [[Argent Mirror]]. The paint's mixture had been secretly adulterated with a topical poison, and Orelwen fell ill as a result; her face was left permanently scarred. Meanwhile at Orelwen's invitation (to thank him for the painting he gifted her), Paerys visited the Shining City to promote his artwork. Adventurers soon discovered he had ulterior motives, and Paerys was detained for questioning regarding the poisonings.

A trial was held, and on 8/1/2019 Paerys was found guilty of assault upon members of the court, and conspiring to murder the Argent Mirror. During the course of the trial, he revealed that his family perished in the cataclysm of [[Talador]], on their way to visit him in [[Wehnimer's Landing]]. His hatred for humans as a result of their deaths, ultimately influenced his decision to target the Illistim monarch. He believed her a traitor to elvenkind for signing the treaty at Valley of Gold.

Paerys was sentenced to death by beheading, and died on Phoenatos 5, 5119. The location of his burial was a secret until 5123, when his corpse was been reanimated by the sorcerer [[Enomna]] in the Wraithenmist area of Ta'Illistim during [[Nations on the Brink]] storyline.

==Description==
At Valley of Gold, 7/24/5119
<pre{{log3}}>
You see Paerys Velethuil Loenthra.
He appears to be an Elf.
He is considerably shorter than average and has a scrawny physique. He appears to be in the meridian of life. He has rheumy amber eyes and pallid skin. He has wavy, coarse aureate hair framing his face and shoulders in a thickly layered mane. He has an oblong face, a straight nose and an upswept pointed ears, the tips of which point out from his hair.
He is in good shape.
He is wearing a round-brimmed grey leather hat, a blue-black razern pyramid medallion strung invertedly by a silver chain, a steel-buckled dull blue haversack, a high-neck pleated silk shirt with wide cuffs, a pair of slate grey leather gloves secured with sapphire buttons, some frayed granite-hued breeches, and some faded cerulean silk shoes.</pre>

== Death ==
<pre{{log2}}>
[Ta'Illistim, Caear Courtyard]
The illuminated domes of Ta'Illistim Keep rise overhead, each one tiled and sparkling with an abundance of mosaic decoration. Before the keep, the var widens to a half-moon shaped courtyard, which in turn is bordered by the edge of the city green. You also see a large wooden platform with some stuff on it.
Also here: Lady Sayilla, Lady Orelwen, Lord Aeriadrn, Lord Murstyr, Argent Mirror Myasara, Paerys, Ntyre, and many adventurers.

Aeriadrn recites:

"Paerys, you have been found guilty of assault on members of the Court and city. You have also been found guilty of conspiring to murder Argent Mirror Myasara Illistim, her Illumination, Head of House Illistim, Monarch of the Illistimi People, Defender of Ta'Illistim and Keeper of Knowledge."

Aeriadrn recites:

"For these crimes, you have been sentenced to die by having your head severed from your body."

Paerys folds his hands behind his back.

>l paerys
You see Paerys Velethuil Loenthra.
He appears to be an Elf.
He is considerably shorter than average and has a scrawny physique. He appears to be in the meridian of life. He has rheumy amber eyes and pallid skin. He has wavy, coarse aureate hair framing his face and shoulders in a thickly layered mane. He has an oblong face, a straight nose and an upswept pointed ears, the tips of which point out from his hair.
He is in good shape.
He is wearing a high-neck pleated silk shirt with wide cuffs, a pair of thick black iron manacles, some frayed granite-hued breeches, a heavy iron ball and chain with an ankle cuff, and some faded cerulean silk shoes.

Ntyre shoves Paerys to his knees.

>l ntyre
You see Ntyre.
He appears to be an Illistim Elf.
It is difficult to properly see his features as the dark cotton hood of his robe is pulled down over his face.
He is in good shape.
He is holding a wide vaalorn beheading sword in his right hand.
He is wearing a dark cotton robe, a small dark pouch, a pair of leather breeches, and some black leather boots.

Aeriadrn recites:
"Do you have any final words?"

Paerys nods slowly.

Paerys recites:
"See now - how your Mirror treats the plight of Elvenkind. Our people are rewarded with an Alliance by those who would inevitably betray them. I have no regrets."

Paerys says, "Do it."

Ntyre grabs Paerys' head and lowers it to the block before taking a step back.

Aeriadrn recites:

"May the Patrons guide your path swiftly to the Gate."

Ntyre lifts his sword high above his head before dropping it downward with a single, mighty blow.

Paerys slumps over, severed head rolls a few times on the ground before it stills - the head twitches gruesomely, his bloodied lips spasming in his death throes, as he stares hatefully into the crowd before going still.

As the head rolls away from the body, you are splattered with droplets of blood.

Myasara nods.

Myasara just climbed up a massive stairway.
</pre>

Category:Nations on the Brink

2023-04-04T21:28:27Z

WINTERDAWN: /* Storyline Logs */ consistency edit (log pages themselves are also not consistent and need moving (or not))

== Nations on the Brink==
This storyline began in January of 2023.

===<big>'''Chapter 1 - Lormesta - Fashanos 5123'''</big>===
<hr>
: {| class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" id="mw-customcollapsible-chapter one"
|+ style="white-space:nowrap; text-align:left;" | To view the Chapter 1 Synopsis, click <span class="mw-customtoggle-blue" role="link" style="color:#0000ff">'''here'''</span>.
|-
|
* Elven Dignitaries Start to Arrive in the Nations
* Lady Athalia asks Silver Gryphons, Order of the Azure Sun, and Order of the Swan to Escort Lady Sayilla along the western coast from Torre to Brisker’s Cove.
* Myasara holds court to welcome Dignitaries.
* Lady Sayilla Escort Weekend
* Elven Demon Hunters arrive in Ta’Illstim, seeking Aid in finding renegades
* Lady Sayilla Arrives at the Landing and Sets up Memorial Tent
* Demon Hunting Party
* Mirror Holds Court to determine renegade fate, announces Ball to offer farewell to dignitaries.
* Sayilla arrives in Solhaven with Memorial Tent
* Malwind Creates a Formal Invitation to Breakfast in the Keep as a departure ceremony for Sayilla who will be returning to the Empire
* Farewell Ball - Lady Kasendra Malwind is found dead in her quarters
* Brunch for Lady Sayilla is waylaid by the bad news
* Voyage of Lady Sayilla to Tamzyrr is interrupted by her being thrown overboard and her bodyguard being gravely wounded
|}
===<big>'''Chapter 2'''</big>===
<hr>
* Lord Commander Murstyr visits Ta'Vaalor to remind Cyik of his duty to join arms with Ta'Illistim
* Habormaster in Solhaven disobeys Vornavis and turns away elven vessel, causing Lady Kasendra's remains to briefly be in limbo. [[Nations_on_the_Brink_(storyline)/recaps#03.07.2023 | Details]]
* Lady Athalia holds court, discarding blame theory and listening to those that would stand up for the Harbormaster. Odelgarde shares news of Jairnsaxa, the Baron, and the mystery of Grenhal. [[Nations_on_the_Brink_(storyline)/recaps#03.08.2023|Details]]
* Inquisitors visit the public in Ta'Illistim, and the Senschecal reads a letter from the mirror. [[Nations_on_the_Brink_(storyline)/recaps#03.09.2023|Details]]
* Inquisitor public session in Ta'Illistim's Hall of Justice. Questioned parties: [[Jaranzair_Nashal_Vaalor|Lord Legionaire Commander Jaranzair Nashal Vaalor]], [[Rohese_(prime) | Rohese Bayvel-Timbertree]], [[Lithyia_(prime)|Lithyia Medeea]], [[Lucrecea_(prime) | Lucrecrea Ruin]], and [[Fennelis_Asja | Fennelis Asja]]
* Odelgarde has an appointment with Sargassa to discuss infectious fluids. [[Nations_on_the_Brink_(storyline)/recaps#03.13.2023|Details]]
* Inquisitor public session in Ta'Illistim's Hall of Juice. Questioned parties: [[Akenna_(prime)|Akenna Laeraun]], [[Traiva_(prime) | Traiva Verethundi]], [[Elaejia_(prime) | Elaejia Silithyr]], [[Naevys_Eilstina | Naevys Eilstina]], and [[Fennelis_Asja | Fennelis Asja]]
* Mysterious ship carrying a hooded figure shows up in Solhaven. Requests escort to Vornavis Keep. [[Nations_on_the_Brink_(storyline)/recaps#03.15.2023|Details]]
* Inquisitor public session in Ta'Illistim's Hall of Juice. Questioned parties: Jaysehn, Eruien, Aendir, and Orelwen. [[2023-03-16 - Nations on the Brink (log) - Ta'Illistim Interview Session 3|Details]]
* Formal Court of Ta'Illistim where the Mirror did a public address, [[Leisette]] and [[Clunk_(prime)|Clunk]] spoke. [[Nations_on_the_Brink_(storyline)/recaps#03.18.2023|Details]]
* Formal Court in Vornavis where Lady Athalia Malwind gives a public address. [[Nations_on_the_Brink_(storyline)/recaps#03.19.2023|Details]]
* Vornavis Memorial Vigil [[Nations_on_the_Brink_(storyline)/recaps#03.22.2023|Details]]
* Tamzyrr Burial Ceremony at the Temple of Steps [[Nations_on_the_Brink_(storyline)/recaps#03.24.2023|Details]]
* A Call to Market Bend in South Haven heralds bizarre news. [[Nations_on_the_Brink_(storyline)/recaps#03.29.2023|Details]]
* Rumors on the Green [[Nations_on_the_Brink_(storyline)/recaps#03.31.2023|Details]]
* Commoners from Aldora and Marshtown are turned back after traveling to Zul Logoth with the intent to tell the Mirror that they're upset about the lack of justice for Kasendra's death. [[Nations on the Brink (storyline)/recaps#04-03-2023|Details]]

===<big> '''Cast of Characters''' </big>===
<hr>
<div style="column-count:3;-moz-column-count:3;-webkit-column-count:3">
* [[Aeriadrn Ghaeriden]] - Sensechal of Ta'Illistim
* [[Aertinus Avelleur]] - Commander of the Sapphire Guard
* [[Anieit Daesavreh]] - Sorceror of New Ta'Faendryl
* [[Athalia Aricia Malwind]] - Daughter of the Baron of Vornavis
* [[Auait Daesavreh]] - Blade of New Ta'Faendryl
* [[Aurmont Anodheles]] - Emperor of the Turamzzyrian Empire, Kasendra's cousin
* [[Callalor Iristil]] - Emissary of the Loenthran Court
* [[Ciradyl]] - Master Inquisitor of the Sapphire Guard
* [[Duncarr Chandrennin]] - Kasendra's younger brother
* [[Dunrith Malwind]] - Baron of Vornavis
* [[Enomna]] - Betrayer of New Ta'Faendryl
* [[Eshenesra]] - Inquisitor for the Sapphire Guard
* [[Eruien Lithavir]] - Emissary of the Loenthran Court
* [[Eylna Villaune]] - Daughter of the Baron of Oire
* [[Fennelis_Asja | Fennelis Asja]] - Emissary of the Ardenai Court
* [[Gerjonn Chandrennin]] - Heir to Aldora, Kasendra's older brother
* [[Gurbah]] - Captian of the Vornavian Guard
* [[Henshor]] - Husband of Enomna the Betrayer
* [[Jaranzair Nashal Vaalor]] - Lord Legionnaire Commander - Emissary of the Vaalorian Court
* [[Jarnsaixa Vargrdoittr]] - Bodyguard to Sayilla (during her journey from Torre to Seareach)
* [[Kansom Baylor]] - Fairport Guard
* [[Kasendra Malwind]] - Daughter of the Baron of Aldora, Cousin to the Emperor of the Turamzyrrian Empire, Wife to Salnim
* [[Kimrella de'Naut]] - Captain of the Vornavian Navy
* [[Kynsella a'Vatale]] - Emissary of Torre
* [[Leisette]] - Right Hand of House Eilstina
* [[Lihukshi Daesavreh]] - Watcher of New Ta'Faendryl
* [[Myasara]] - [[Argent Mirror]] of Ta'Illistim
* Mistress [[Grenhal]] - Court Healer and Nursemaid to the Vornavian Court
* [[Murstyr Javilerre]] - Commander of the Sapphire Guard
* [[Naevys Eilstina]] - Emissary of the Nalfein Court
* [[Odelgarde Brindlestraffe]] - Magister assigned to Vornavian Courts
* [[Orelwen Greyvael]] - Handmaiden to the Argent Mirror
* [[Plaitime]] - Known as the Skinny Man, a ring leader in South Haven
* [[Roisinne]] - Priestess of the Tower of the Sea Princess
* [[Salnim Malwind]] - Son of the Baron of Vornavis
* [[Sayilla Javilerre]] - Emissary of Ta'Illistim, niece of Murstyr
* [[Sheslon]] - Herald of Oire
* [[Syearris]] - Inquisitor of the Sapphire Guard
* [[Talleani]] - Known as the Talon, a rogue of South Haven
* [[Umil]] - Scout of the Sun Throne
* [[Vaelynsa]] - Inquisitor of the Sapphire Guard
* [[Wilhard]] - Harbormaster to Vornavis
</div>

===<big> '''Official Storyline Vignettes''' </big>===
<hr>
''Listed in Storyline Order''
<div style="column-count:3;-moz-column-count:3;-webkit-column-count:3">

* [[Solhaven: The Darkening Night | The Darkening Night]]
* [[The_Kiss_of_Dawn| The Kiss of Dawn]]
* [[NotB - Chapter 1 Finale (Vignette) | Chapter 1 Finale Vignette]]
* [[Vignette:_Bad_Fish | Bad Fish]]
</div>

===<big> '''Storyline Logs''' </big>===
<hr>
<div style="column-count:3;-moz-column-count:3;-webkit-column-count:3">
* [[2022-12-13_-_Vornavis_Baronial_Court_Session_(log) | 12.13.2022 - Vornavis Baronial Court Session (log)]]
* [[2023-01-14_-_Tower_of_the_Sea_Princess_tour_(log) | 01.14.2023 - Tower of the Sea Princess Tour (log)]]
* [[2023-01-20_-_Sayilla_Visits_Wehnimer%27s_Landing_(log) | 01.20.2023 - Sayilla Visits Wehnimer's Landing (log)]]
* [[2023-01-21_-_Ta%27Illistim_Court_Session_(log) | 01.21.2023 - Ta'Illistim Court Session (log)]]
* [[2023-03-11 - Nations on the Brink (log) - Inquisition from the Cheap Seats | 03.11.2023 - Ta'Illistim Interview Session 1]]
* [[03.14.2023_-_Ta%27Illistim_Interview_Session_2 | 03.14.2023 - Ta'Illistim Interview Session 2]]
* [[2023-03-16 - Nations on the Brink (log) - Ta'Illistim Interview Session 3 | 03.16.2023 - Ta'Illistim Interview Session 3]]
* [[Nations on the Brink (storyline)/2023-03-25 - Sayilla's Memorial Service (log)|03-25-2023 - Sayilla's Memorial Service]]
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[[Category:2023_Storylines]]
[[Category:Storylines]]
[[Category:River's Rest Storylines]]
[[Category:Solhaven Storylines]]
[[Category:Ta'Illistim Storylines]]
[[Category:Wehnimer's Landing Storylines]]

Premium contest/2022-12 - Holiday Horror

2023-04-04T09:24:41Z

WINTERDAWN: /* Entries */

{{TOCright}}
<pre{{log2}}>Have you ever tried to make your own holiday sweater, but it ended up a holiday horror?! No? Well now's your chance to design one!

Here are the requirements:
1. Design the 15/15/sweater (the noun must be sweater).
2. Design the sweater's long description (65 character limit).
3. Design the messaging for when you WEAR the sweater (500 character limit).
4. Design the messaging for when you REMOVE the sweater (500 character limit).
5. Design a show for the sweater (500 character limit).

Example of a submission:

1. A pink and/green knitted/sweater
2. A pink and green knitted sweater with knots in the pattern (58)
3. You poke your head through the bottom of the sweater, but your head gets caught for a moment in the sleeve hole. Struggling, you pull at the sweater grabbing at your hair instead! Ouch!! But from one moment to the next you're able to poke your head through the right hole and wiggle yourself into the garment. (311)
4. You grasp the bottom hem of your sweater, pulling it up and over your head. Your wrist gets caught in the sleeve, tugging at one of the threads. Ugh, you'll have to fix that later. (182)
5. Knitted from vivid pink and dull green yarn, the sweater has been crocheted in a disorganized pattern. Knots in the pattern are scattered throughout the garment, along with long strands of hair that seem to have gotten caught. (225)

Entries that do not conform to the above requirements will not be considered eligible.

Contestants have until 11:59 pm PT on December 31, 2022 to get entries submitted.

E-mail all entries to GS4-Zoelle@PLAY.NET using the entry form in PREMIUM 6.

Ten winners PER CONTEST will be chosen from the submitted entries. In the event of there being fewer than ten entries, everyone wins!

Like all Premium Monthly Contests, entries are subject to change based on the discretion of the GMs and QC. Entries will be judged during the first week of December. Zoelle will not judge this contest except in the rare case of a tie. The winners will be announced as soon as possible afterwards. Zoelle reserves the right to make any changes to submissions that they, or QC, deem necessary.

All Premium contest winners must ASSIST within 30 days from the time the winners are announced to get their prize, or you forfeit it! All winners will be listed in PREMIUM 7 and may choose their prize from the list posted there.

Reminder: There is no guarantee that any submission will be created in game!</pre>

==Winners==
Top Ten Winners, in alphabetical order:
*Darcena
*Earthdiver
*Lianea
*Missoni
*Nelesune
*Rozy
*Teveriel
*Traiva
*Vincien
*Vyrshkana (Platinum)

==Entries==
{{Premcontestentry
| name= Aethyra
| instance= prime
| entry= 1. a red and puce holiday goat sweater
2. a red and puce striped sweater with a grinning goat on the front
3. You take a moment to admire your glorious goat sweater before pulling it on and reveling in its warmth. It only takes a moment before the unbearable itching that always accompanies the wearing of this sweater sets in.
4. Unable to bear the itching any longer, you reluctantly pull your grinning goat sweater over your head, caressing it with a longing sigh as you fold it up and prepare to put it away until next time.
5. This red and puce striped sweater was obviously made with love, but unfortunately the materials used are not the highest quality. The fabric feels a little rough and scratchy, and the stripes are a little uneven. The sweater sports the cheerful face of a grinning goat on the front, but his eyes are slightly crossed and off-center. Overall, it's quite a funny-looking but much-loved sweater!
|-
}}{{Premcontestentry
| name= Arianiss
| instance= prime
| entry= 1. a warm and fuzzy paeline sweater
2. a warm and fuzzy paeline sweater with brightly colored designs
3. You carefully slip the paeline sweater over your head while being mindful of the direction it faces and making sure to not stretch any of it in the process. The fuzzy fabric catches in an awkward position until you adjust the fit, and as you do, the material hugs tightly to your form to envelop you in warmth.
4. You carefully remove the paeline sweater while being mindful not to stretch it or snag it on anything. As you finish, you fold the sweater into a small bundle and hold it protectively in your hands.
5. The high collared sweater is knitted from fuzzy paeline and gives the impression of being warm and snug when worn. Brightly colored designs of trees and snowmen and Thrakmas ornaments are knitted throughout. The sweater is in pristine condition as if it has been lovingly cared for.
|-
}}{{Premcontestentry
| name= Kalyrra
| instance= prime
| entry= 1. a cavernous/fuzzy green/sweater
2. a cavernous fuzzy green sweater varying wildly in overall length (64)
3. Lifting the sweater over your head, you take a moment to appreciate the sheer enormity of the garment before it falls effortlessly over your form, engulfing you in its warmth. Aimlessly, you search for two sleeves in close proximity to one another. When you finally poke your head out of the sweater, you frown at all of the excess material dangling about your sides. In a sudden flash of fashion genius, you fling the loose bits around you neck and over your shoulder, not unlike a massive scarf.
4. With a bit of effort, you pull your arms free from their sleeves and into the body of the sweater. Ducking your head inside the garment, you quickly become lost in its vast depths. You twist and wiggle around, but still cannot seem to free yourself. Minutes pass, or perhaps even hours, and just as you begin to wish you had snacks for this arduous journey, you finally locate part of the uneven hem and manage to extricate yourself amid a chorus of tiny crackling sounds.
5. Crafted from an incredible amount of fuzzy holly green yarn, this sweater is easily the size of three giantmen. Five sleeves extend from the large body of the sweater in a rather haphazard fashion. The length of the sweater varies significantly, from midriff-exposing on one side to falling just below the knees on the other, leaving one to wonder why it was ever completed. Adorning the back of the sweater is an uneven line of small, festive-looking roltons. Or, perhaps they are kobolds?
|-
}}{{Premcontestentry
| name= Obelin
| instance= prime
| entry= 1. a garish and/unevenly knit/sweater
2. a garish and unevenly knit sweater in a vaguely wintry theme
3. 1st person - You select the largest hole in the sweater, determining that it must be the bottom, and slide it over your head. Almost immediately you find yourself lost and flailing, your left arm unable to find a sleeve and your head caught in an unidentifiable bulge of fabric that should not be. What is this, pants? After an interminable and frustrating duration you emerge mostly victorious, if somewhat breathless, arguably wearing the sweater.
3rd person - Person slides the garish and unevenly knit sweater over their head, although not the way you would have done it, and immediately appears to be struggling. An arm briefly emerges from what you think may be the neck before retreating, the entire thing is turned inside-out and then reversed, but finally a head emerges from a strangely foreshortened sleeve and Person appears satisfied with the result.
4. 1st person - Having incorrectly assumed the process would be easier to reverse, you begin extricating yourself from the woolen mess that is your sweater. You briefly find yourself trapped in what you now realize was not an excessively long turtleneck but, in fact, one of the sleeves. At one point you are forced to turn the entire thing inside-out to free an arm and realize that it may have actually been inside-out all along.
3rd person - Person grabs the neck of their garish and unevenly knit sweater and pulls it up over their head, as though to remove it. This process continues for an uncomfortably long time as you realize that the bunched material may actually have been a sleeve. You are not surprised when they appear to become lost within the body of the sweater and eventually wind up turning the entire thing inside out a few times trying to determine what may have gone wrong.
5. The woolen mess before you is not immediately identifiable as a sweater, including as it does nearly a dozen openings which may be decorative and may be sleeves. While knit in seasonally appropriate colors, the pattern is not quite clear, nor is the angle it should be viewed. Ragged seams and stray ends suggest that perhaps it has been turned inside-out, although it's unclear how much that could improve the structural irregularities.
|-
}}


==Additional Information==
===Resources===
*[https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1051369399656906792/1051369399656906792 Contest Rules]
*[https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1051369399656906792/1068390305780465664 Contest Winners]
[[Category:Premium contest]]

Premium contest/2022-11 - Talking Head - Who Is It

2023-04-04T09:23:32Z

WINTERDAWN: /* Entries */

{{TOCright}}
<pre{{log2}}>November Premium Contest: Talking Head - Who Is It?
Have you ever wished you had a head for company? Well now's your chance to design one!

Here are the requirements:
1. Pick (1) of the following demeanors: Cold, Reserved, Neutral, Friendly, Warm.
2. Give the head a voice and create a comment that a disembodied head of the chosen demeanor might say idly.
3. Pick 1 one of the demeanors not chosen in step one (1).
4. Give the head a voice and create a comment that a disembodied head of the chosen demeanor might say idly.
5. Pick one (1) of the following demeanors: Cold, Reserved, Neutral, Friendly, Warm.
6. Pick 1 of the following verbs: NUDGE, POKE, TICKLE, PINCH, PRAISE, SCOLD, SUSH
7. Give the head life and create a reaction that a disembodied head of the demeanor chosen in step five (5) might have when the target of the verb chosen in step six (6).
8. Pick 1 one of the demeanors not chosen in step five (5).
9. Pick one of the verbs not chosen in step six (6).
10. Give the head life and create a reaction that a disembodied head of the demeanor chosen in step eight (8) might have when the target of the verb chosen in step five (5).

Entries that do not conform to the above requirements will not be considered eligible.

Contestants have until 11:59 pm PT on November 30, 2022 to get entries submitted.

E-mail all entries to GS4-Zoelle@PLAY.NET using the entry form in PREMIUM 6.

Ten winners PER CONTEST will be chosen from the submitted entries. In the event of there being fewer than ten entries, everyone wins!

Like all Premium Monthly Contests, entries are subject to change based on the discretion of the GMs and QC. Entries will be judged during the first week of December. Zoelle will not judge this contest except in the rare case of a tie. The winners will be announced as soon as possible afterwards. Zoelle reserves the right to make any changes to submissions that they, or QC, deem necessary.

All Premium contest winners must ASSIST within 30 days from the time the winners are announced to get their prize, or you forfeit it! All winners will be listed in PREMIUM 7 and may choose their prize from the list posted there.

Reminder: There is no guarantee that any submission will be created in game!</pre>

==Winners==
Top Ten Winners, in alphabetical order:
*Darcena
*Draelor
*Jaysehn
*Kalyrra
*Kayse
*Laelithonel
*Lunaryna
*Naamit
*Vaikhen
*Vincien

==Entries==
{{Premcontestentry
| name= Arianiss
| instance= prime
| entry= 1) warm
2) "Hey! Over here! Hey! Look at me! Yeah, you! Hey!"
3) friendly
4) People love to recommend their healer to you. I don't know what they get out of it, but they really push them on you.

"Is he good?"

"He's the best. This guy's the best." There can't be this many "bests." Someone's graduating at the bottom of the classes. Where are these healers? Is someone somewhere saying to their friend, "You should see my healer, he's the worst. He's the absolute worst there is. Whatever you've got, it'll be worse after you see him. The man's an absolute butcher."

And whenever a friend refers a healer they say, "Make sure that you tell him that you know me." Why? What's the difference? He's a healer.

"Oh, you know Tristansas? Oh, okay, I'll give you the real medicine. Everybody else I'm giving breath mints."
5) neutral
6) tickle
7) "I may not have any arms or legs, but I can still fight you!"
8) cold
9) praise
10) "How dare you praise me. I am beyond your praise. Why, when I was a full body I would command those like you to the gallows daily. Hmph. Praise me? Who do you think you are..."
|-
}}{{Premcontestentry
| name= Kalyrra
| instance= prime
| entry= 1. Neutral demeanor
2. “Sorry, but I don't seem to recall agreeing to getting soaked in blood every time you decide to kill something.”
3. Friendly demeanor
4. “Oh, hey...did you want to hang out today? Get it? Never mind, I'll just be quiet for a bit.”
5. Reserved demeanor
6. SHUSH
7. You quietly shush the disembodied head, which huffs in annoyance and rolls its eyes hard enough that you wonder briefly if they might fall out.
8. Cold demeanor
9. POKE
10. You give the disembodied head a quick poke to its cheek, causing it to attempt to bite your finger! Someone's feeling cheeky today.
|-
}}{{Premcontestentry
| name= Obelin
| instance= prime
| entry= 1. Friendly
2. "Bit of weather we're having lately, innit? Watched a man stare at it without moving for a quarter hour."
3. Cold
4. "Surely we have better ways to spend our time?"
5. Warm
6. NUDGE
7. With eyebrows askew, the disembodied head winks and nods to hint at a deep understanding of Target.
8. Neutral
9. POKE
10. The disembodied head stares directly at Target for a long moment before flatly asking, "Would you mind repeating that?"
|-
}}


==Additional Information==
===Resources===
*[https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1039674007236124792 Contest Rules]
*[https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1039674007236124792/1068390097675890738 Contest Winners]
[[Category:Premium contest]]

Mist Harbor Library Lectures - 2022-08-14 - Missoni on Faendryl Glasswork (log)

2023-04-04T09:12:33Z

WINTERDAWN:

The following was a lecture in the Mist Harbor Library Lecture series, where [[Missoni (prime) | Missoni]] was the guest speaker, which was given on 8/14/5122. The topics must be lore based but otherwise are at the discretion of the invited speaker. This lecture is in regards to Faendryl glasswork. This log is for the purpose of posterity and is presented without bias. It has also been edited to be easier to read while attempting to retain an informative flow.

----

<pre{{log2}}>
[Library, Meeting Hall]
A trio of wide stairs lead down from a wide archway into this brightly lit room. A small podium stands atop a small dais opposite the archway, and several cushioned benches have been arranged throughout the space, each offering an excellent line of sight. A number of elliptical windows line the walls of the hall, and a rich crimson-patterned carpet covers the entirety of the floor underfoot.
Also here: Tabubu who is sitting, Mirkk who is sitting, Loremaster Rohese who is sitting, Kalyrra who is sitting, Dendum who is sitting, Ambassador Vaikhen who is sitting, Chatelaine Traiva who is sitting, Lady Akenna who is sitting, Lady Avawren who is sitting, Mistress Khobra, Lady Landrai who is sitting, Meril who is sitting, Chairwoman Phanna who is sitting, Hadya who is sitting, Lady Arenglae who is sitting, Missoni, Relic Hunter Ordim who is sitting, Magister Raelee who is sitting, Moshari who is sitting

{{green|Rohese walks to stand behind a small podium.}}

{{green|Rohese graciously greets, "Good afternoon everyone."}}

{{green|Rohese excitedly exclaims, "Here we are again!"}}

{{green|Rohese eagerly begins, "As the Library's Loremaster, it gives me great pleasure to welcome you to the next in our lecture series."}}

{{green|Rohese brightly explains, "As I'm sure you are all aware by now, the aim is to provide a platform for imparting knowledge and encouraging discussion."}}

{{green|Rohese gently reminds, "I ask that everyone be considerate to our speaker, as well as those who comment or ask questions."}}

{{green|Rohese softly continues, "All opinions are welcome and indeed encouraged, as long as they are courteously expressed."}}

{{green|Rohese smiles.}}

{{green|Rohese softly exclaims, "As always, I am grateful that our speaker agreed to be here today and I'm sure we're in for another fascinating hour!"}}

{{green|Rohese affectionately says, "So, without further ado, please give the delightful Missoni Sabretache a very warm Library welcome."}}

{{green|Rohese beams at Missoni and claps her hands together in delight!}}

{{blue|Missoni blushes a nice shade of dark red.}}

{{green|Rohese takes a few steps back.}}

{{blue|Missoni nods gratefully at Rohese.}}

Khobra applauds Missoni.

Moshari applauds.

Vaikhen applauds Missoni.

Kalyrra applauds Missoni.

{{blue|Missoni strides a few steps forward.}}

Phanna smiles at Missoni.

Meril applauds.

Phanna applauds Missoni.

Vaikhen hoots.

Landrai applauds Missoni.

Vaikhen taps a gilded jet clockwork owl's beak, causing it to whir some gears and produce a "hoot!" sound.

Akenna applauds politely.

{{blue|Missoni's fingers grasp at the neckline of her cloth-of-veniom gown as she takes a deliberate, wavering breath to calm herself.}}

Traiva applauds Missoni.

{{blue|Missoni cheerfully greets, "I see many familiar faces here. In fact, I think we have all met at one point or another, and I am so grateful that you are all here."}}

{{blue|Missoni nods appreciatively.}}

Rohese smiles at Missoni.

{{blue|Missoni adds, "And I hope the dueling sands are treating you well, if you are choosing to partake in them."}}

Arenglae nods faintly at Missoni.

Khobra smirks.

{{blue|Missoni takes a deep breath.}}

Akenna nods cheerfully.

Phanna smiles.

Akenna flashes a wide grin.

Rohese wrinkles her nose.

Phanna takes a drink from her ice cold lemonade.

{{blue|Missoni begins, "When Loremaster Rohese approached me about speaking at the library, I thought perhaps I would discuss some aspect of extraplanar scholarship. A taxonomy of beings, or perhaps of study of the valences."}}

Rohese inclines her head.

{{blue|Missoni produces a rose-etched silver music stand from the depths of her airy robes.}}

{{blue|Missoni sets up a rose-etched silver music stand.}}

{{blue|Missoni amusedly quips, "I am sure she was very excited at that possibility."}}

Rohese laughs softly, trying to hide her amusement.

Rohese lowers her gaze.

{{blue|Missoni taps a rose-etched silver music stand in an admonishing fashion. The silver music stand wiggles briefly before settling down and performing an excellent imitation of an ordinary music stand.}}

Rohese clears her throat.

{{blue|Missoni remarks, "My interest in them is known, after all, as is their importance in Faendryl culture."}}

Khobra turns an inquisitive ear toward Missoni.

Vaikhen nods understandingly.

{{blue|Missoni produces a painted ecru leather volume from the depths of her airy robes.}}

{{blue|Missoni put a painted ecru leather volume on a rose-etched silver music stand.}}

{{blue|Missoni smiles warmly, taking a few paces away from the dais and toward those gathered. Her metallic skirts glimmer with the movement.}}

Rohese gazes with interest at Missoni.

{{blue|Missoni states, "However, I have decided to use this opportunity to expound on a lesser known aspect of Faendryl culture: glasswork."}}

Hadya steeples her fingers in her lap as she glances at Missoni.

Rohese gasps.

Dendum leans forward on his wooden branch, listening intently.

{{blue|Missoni gazes in amusement at Rohese.}}

Ordim ponders.

{{blue|Missoni curiously asks, "How many of you are currently carrying or wearing something made of glass? May I see a show of hands?"}}

Rohese clasps her hand over her mouth.

Phanna smiles at Missoni.

Rohese blushes sheepishly to herself.

Ordim carefully looks himself over.

Dendum raises his hand.

Ordim raises his hand.

Mirkk glances down.

Rohese raises her hand.

{{blue|Missoni casually observes her surroundings.}}

Traiva raises her hand.

Rohese gazes thoughtfully at her wedding band.

Akenna ponders.

Speaking to himself, Ordim whispers aloud, "Probably."

Mirkk shakes his head.

(Vaikhen pats himself down.)

Akenna carefully looks herself over.

Phanna glances appraisingly at a glass of ice cold lemonade in her hand.

Rohese gazes in amusement at Ordim.

Khobra raises her hand.

Traiva begins chortling at Phanna.

Meril checks her equipment, adjusting and rearranging her gear.

Traiva takes a bite of her Mestanir cheese.

{{blue|Missoni asks, "Does anyone mind sharing what they have with them?"}}

Mirkk removes an antique green-tinted glass bottle from in his wool coat.

Mirkk shrugs.

{{blue|Missoni cocks her head.}}

Meril removes a deep green glass vial caged with brilliant copper leaves from her neck.

Rohese smiles.

Mirkk put an antique green-tinted glass bottle in his wool coat.

Rohese raises her hand.

Traiva removes a squat green-sheened jar from in her multi-pocketed carryall.

Dendum put a gnarled wooden branch in his emerald wool cloak.

{{blue|Missoni nods appreciatively.}}

Splaying her fingers wide, Rohese extends her left hand toward Missoni, showing off the wedding band on her left ring finger.

Avawren hums quietly to herself.

Avawren removes a silver-lidded round glass jar from in her pale linden basket.

Hadya taps a bronze-framed bone reliquary that she is wearing.

Unclipping a vibrant leaf cluster brooch at his left shoulder, Dendum carefully wraps a dark emerald wool cloak draped in thick animal pelts from his shoulders and slips his wrist from its attached dark mithril bangle.

Mirkk hums a seemingly random tune.

Fiddling with a vibrant leaf cluster brooch, Dendum carefully pulls it free from the fabric of his emerald wool cloak.

Traiva put a squat green-sheened jar in her multi-pocketed carryall.

{{blue|Missoni says, "Ah, vessels, lovely bracelets, rings..."}}

Avawren chuckles.

Dendum shows Missoni his leaf cluster brooch.

Traiva just opened a sweeping back-slit cloth-of-silver cloak with a deep velvet trimmed hood.

Meril sniffs at her green glass vial.

Traiva removes a silver samite sack from in her back-slit cloak.

Khobra removes a glass of aged Faendryl rum from in her midnight black cloak.

Traiva just opened a silver samite sack.

{{blue|Missoni nods appreciatively.}}

Avawren suggests, "Bug catchers ..."

Khobra takes a drink from her aged Faendryl rum.

Traiva removes a green-flamed arathiel bead from in her silver samite sack.

Dendum fiddles with his leaf cluster brooch and carefully stabs its stickpin into his emerald wool cloak.

Speaking amusedly to Mirkk, Rohese notes, "Grandfather's wine, I see."

{{blue|Missoni says, "Artistic and useful items, all."}}

Slipping his wrist into a thorned dark mithril bangle that is attached to the left side of his emerald wool cloak, Dendum draws the fabric over his arm and up across his left shoulder, around his back, and then pulls it taut under his right arm. With care, he pulls the lower edge across his chest to his left shoulder and pins it into place using a vibrant leaf cluster brooch.

Akenna exclaims, "I have bottles!"

Akenna giggles.

{{blue|Missoni agrees with Akenna.}}

Traiva put a green-flamed arathiel bead in her silver samite sack.

{{blue|Missoni flashes a quick grin.}}

Traiva just closed a silver samite sack.

{{blue|Missoni says, "So we see, glass as a material is prevalent in our daily lives. We may wear it." She pauses to brush her fingertips across the luminous araglass cap crowning her ear. "We may even drink from it, or use it in our home to let the light in and keep the chill out. Thus, many cultures have developed processes aimed toward making beautiful, coveted works of glass."}}

Speaking softly to Traiva, Rohese exclaims, "Pretty!"

Traiva put a silver samite sack in her back-slit cloak.

Traiva just closed a sweeping back-slit cloth-of-silver cloak with a deep velvet trimmed hood.

Traiva grins at Rohese.

Phanna's exhaled breath condenses on the air, visible as a puff of white vapor before it drifts away.

Khobra takes a drink from her aged Faendryl rum.
She pauses for a moment to savor the complex flavors.

{{blue|Missoni glances at an elliptical window.}}

Rohese gazes thoughtfully at an elliptical window.

{{blue|Missoni explains, "Faendryl have developed a type of glasswork that utilizes the heat from balefire to manipulate the glass, a process that has become known as baleglazing."}}

{{blue|Missoni says, "I would like to share with you the cultural importance of this process and some examples of it, so I will first provide some general background on Faendryl art and the history of glasswork in our culture."}}

Vaikhen blinks.

Phanna gazes with interest at Missoni.

Rohese turns an inquisitive ear toward Missoni.

{{blue|Missoni continues, "Then, I will discuss baleglass as an intersection of glasswork and sorcery, as well as the process involved in its creation."}}

Rohese raises an eyebrow.

{{blue|Missoni says, "I will conclude with a brief example of my own interpretation of the process, which utilizes found sea glass. Sea glass is a material that, as you might expect, is not in large supply in New Ta'Faendryl."}}

Speaking interestedly to Mirkk, Rohese whispers aloud, "Baleglass!"

{{blue|(Missoni takes a small sip of water, clearing her throat lightly.)}}

{{blue|Missoni cheerfully says, "Firstly, then, some general background on Faendryl art."}}

{{blue|Missoni notes, "I will not be delving into some of the larger movements in painting and sculpture as part of this discussion for the sake of brevity. Rather, I will focus on events and circumstances that lead to the development of baleglass."}}

{{blue|Missoni carefully places her spring water on the floor alongside her.}}

Mirkk raises an eyebrow.

{{blue|Missoni says, "We can trace the importance of found art in Faendryl culture to the time of our departure from the Elven Empire."}}

Tabubu shifts her weight.

Rohese inclines her head.

Mirkk whispers something to Rohese.

Mirkk chortles softly at some secret joke.

{{blue|(Missoni clasps her hands behind her back and takes a few steps toward the right side of the benches, nodding solemnly in Khobra's direction.)}}

Mirkk turns an inquisitive ear toward Missoni.

Rohese gazes in amusement at Mirkk.

{{blue|Missoni explains, "Those first years in the caves of Maelshyve were sparse, and that scarcity influences us even today, from the prevalence of bats and insects used in Faendryl cuisine to the practice of self-expression using unusual objects, the repurposed and the reused."}}

{{blue|Missoni says, "Archaeologist Eveilir Waldshyn Faendryl writes of the evidence of continuing artistic practice found in caves."}}

(Khobra swirls her aged Faendryl rum in circles for a moment, keenly listening to Missoni.)

{{blue|Missoni notes, "The translation from the original Faendryl is mine."}}

{{blue|Missoni removes a painted ecru leather volume from on a rose-etched silver music stand.}}

{{blue|The smell of acrid ink fills the air as Missoni opens her ecru leather volume.}}

{{blue|Missoni reads, "We found discarded tools such as the carved handles of paintbrushes and materials such as ground stone and insects for pigment in the former living quarters. These tools were often stored near survival necessities such as weapons and cookery, suggesting that they were held in similar esteem by their owners."}}

{{blue|Missoni continues, "Further, some painted stone tablets from this era have survived in the care of the Basilica that provide yet more insight into our Faendryl ancestors."}}

Khobra smiles quietly to herself.

{{blue|Missoni says, "Paper was likely carefully rationed and more prone to changes in the environment." She thumbs the vellum pages in her book thoughtfully. "Heartier mediums like stone were favored for creating art and even for writing important documents at that time, despite their seeming unwieldiness."}}

{{blue|Missoni snaps her ecru leather volume shut with a puff of dust.}}

{{blue|Missoni put a painted ecru leather volume on a rose-etched silver music stand.}}

{{blue|Missoni says, "Artwork using pigment and stone often accounts for the medium by creatively employing the natural occlusions, edges, and other formations of the stone as part of the piece itself."}}

Rohese thoughtfully taps a finger against her lips.

{{blue|Missoni states, "In the stone painting Beyond the Veil by an unknown artist, for example, a complex geometric pattern is painted around a fissure formed at the center of the stone tablet. The piece can then be hung to place a person of object in its center."}}

{{blue|(Missoni holds her hands together in front of her face, thumbs and forefingers touching so she is peering through a circle at the audience.)}}

Rohese smiles quietly to herself.

Phanna looks thoughtfully at Missoni.

{{blue|Missoni says, "Art historians see Beyond the Veil as a comment on extraplanar travel. The precise geometry clearly resembles a planar rift, but the subject at the work's center shifts based on both the display location and the viewer's perspective."}}

{{blue|(Missoni slowly pans the audience with her hands, pausing on Dendum to give his a brief wink before dropping them to her sides.)}}

Rohese surreptitiously glances at Dendum.

Mirkk glances at Dendum.

{{blue|Missoni adds, "Glass, of course, is naturally occurring like stone, though there are some processes developed for turning sand to glass."}}

Rohese smiles.

{{blue|Missoni says, "At its most basic, glass is created when lightning strikes the sand, heating and fusing it."}}

{{blue|Missoni thoughtfully says, "If you have visited the Sea of Fire you may be familiar with the phenomenon. It is known there as lightning glass and is used in all manner of adornment."}}

{{blue|Missoni nods slightly at Hadya.}}

Hadya nods once.

Rohese softly exclaims, "Oh!"

Phanna nods in agreement.

{{blue|(Missoni stretches a foot out in front of her to better display the lightning glass set into her shoes.)}}

Mirkk blinks.

Mirkk asks, "Folgerite?"

Speaking interestedly to Mirkk, Rohese whispers aloud, "Now we need to visit, I'd like to see that."

Mirkk nods at Rohese.

{{blue|Missoni says, "Glass was, therefore, in supply in the desert during those early years in the caves, and archaeologists have found glass jewelry and artifacts among works of art created with stone and pigment."}}

(Khobra continues swirling her aged Faendryl rum in circles while keenly listening to Missoni.)

Speaking quietly to Rohese, Mirkk whispers aloud, "I've heard of it. Several different names. Really interesting."

Rohese nods in agreement at Mirkk.

Avawren raises her vellum teacup in a smooth, elegant gesture and takes a small sip.

{{blue|Speaking to Rohese, Missoni murmurs, "There are a few safe corners of the desert."}}

{{blue|Missoni nods encouragingly.}}

Rohese lets out a sigh of relief.

{{blue|Missoni warmly says, "Because they are easier to transport than stone, there are also some examples passed down by families as we migrated from the caves to the New City."}}

Speaking to Rohese, you whisper aloud, "There's also a lot of snakes."

{{blue|Missoni says, "And this brings us to my second major point, the intersection of art and sorcery."}}

Rohese blinks at you.

{{blue|Missoni agrees with you.}}

Vaikhen leans forward.

Mirkk starts chortling at you!

Speaking softly to Mirkk, Rohese whispers aloud, "We won't be going there."

Rohese vigorously shakes her head at Mirkk.

{{blue|Missoni glances down.}}

{{blue|(Missoni pauses to take another sip of water, letting her words hang in the air for a moment.)}}

Mirkk holds up two fingers and slowly pinches them together until they are almost touching.

Kalyrra takes a drink from her well-aged whiskey.

Landrai takes a drink from her ice cold lemonade.

Khobra takes a drink from her aged Faendryl rum.

{{blue|Missoni curiously asks, "Has anyone here heard sorcery called an 'art'? Perhaps we may see another show of hands?"}}

Rohese glances around the room.

Phanna nods once.

Phanna raises her hand.

Vaikhen raises his hand.

Traiva raises her hand.

Khobra raises her hand.

Moshari inhales deeply upon her pipe, puckering her lips and sending out three rings of smoke before her briefly.

{{blue|Missoni casually observes her surroundings.}}

Raelee nods faintly.

Moshari raises her hand.

Mirkk raises his hand.

{{blue|Missoni nods approvingly.}}

{{blue|Missoni says, "Those who practice sorcery do often deem it an art. Likewise, sorcery is regarded as an art throughout much of Faendryl culture, to the extent that Faendryl often refer to it as *The* Art."}}

Arenglae takes a drink from her ice cold lemonade.

Meril cocks her head.

{{blue|Missoni says, "It only follows, then, that the art of sorcery would find its way into the practice of the fine arts--into the development of techniques for sculpture, painting, and performance."}}

Phanna smiles.

Rohese's expression is thoughtful, but her furrowed brow indicates she's working something out for herself.

Akenna gently brushes her sienna hair away from her eyes and, with a deft twist of her wrist, tucks it back into its bindings.

{{blue|Missoni says, "One such example is in the process known as baleglazing, which produces a unique type of glass known as baleglass."}}

{{blue|Missoni says, "Most forms of glasswork involve glassblowing: reheating the glass, turning it to molten, and then reshaping it by exhaling into a slim metal pipe."}}

{{blue|Missoni slowly empties her lungs.}}

Landrai nods.

{{blue|Missoni explains, "Baleglazing works on the same principle. The difference is that the sorcerer manipulates the heat source, balefire, magically and therefore has more control over it." She pauses to take a few steps alongside the row of benches, moving toward the back rows. "Using this technique, the sorcerer forms the glass around and even within the fire."}}

Rohese glances over her shoulder at Missoni.

{{blue|Missoni excitedly says, "The result is that complicated shapes are far more possible, and different colors of glass may be melted and fused together more easily." She begins talking animatedly with her hands as she continues making her way around the benches. "The extreme heat and pattern of the flame lends a unique, almost liquified swirl to the final product."}}

Vaikhen turns to face Missoni.

Ordim fidgets.

(Khobra continues swirling her aged Faendryl rum in circles while keenly listening to Missoni.)

{{blue|Missoni thoughtfully muses, "It is perhaps not coincidental that in the caves of Maelshyve, where water was uncommon, this technique allowed artists to create an ocean-like effect with glass."}}

Moshari breathes in deeply as she clenches a pipe in her mouth, then exhales slowly, causing some pale amorphous clouds of puffy smoke to float up from her mouth.

Phanna looks thoughtfully at Missoni.

Rohese inclines her head.

Khobra agrees with Missoni.

Speaking softly to Mirkk, Rohese whispers aloud, "How pretty!"

{{blue|(Missoni rounds the back row of benches and moves toward the front of the room again as she speaks. "I have here an example of my own creation that I presented at Cairnfang Manor's Art Festival in Solhaven.")}}

{{blue|Missoni produces an orb of fused sea glass swirled with vert and aquamarine from the depths of her airy robes.}}

{{blue|Missoni signals to a rose-etched silver music stand, which hops a bit closer to her.}}

Mirkk blinks.

{{blue|Missoni put an orb of fused sea glass swirled with vert and aquamarine on a rose-etched silver music stand.}}

Rohese gasps.

Avawren laces her fingers around her vellum teacup and hums to herself, appearing lost in thought.

{{blue|Missoni indicates an orb of fused sea glass swirled with vert and aquamarine as a possible option.}}

Rohese softly exclaims, "Gorgeous!"

Mirkk nods in agreement at Rohese.

{{blue|Missoni says, "As you can perhaps see, I melted the glass to mimic the hue and texture of the ocean." She reaches out to trace the swirled pattern with her fingertips. "I was also able to imbed several small crystal fish within the glass, inserting them while the glass was liquid and then allowing the sphere to cool around them."}}

Tabubu leans forward.

Hadya gazes thoughtfully at an orb of fused sea glass swirled with vert and aquamarine on a rose-etched silver music stand.

{{blue|Missoni nods gratefully at Rohese.}}

Phanna smiles at Missoni.

{{blue|Missoni flushes slightly, some color reaching her cheeks.}}

{{blue|Missoni says, "In keeping with Faendryl tradition, I prefer to work with found materials. In this case, I used sea glass collected on the shores and beaches near my residence in Solhaven."}}

Khobra glances between Missoni and an orb of fused sea glass swirled with vert and aquamarine.

Rohese leans forward and rests her chin in her hand, a thoughtful expression on her face.

Rohese gazes thoughtfully at an orb of fused sea glass swirled with vert and aquamarine on a rose-etched silver music stand.

{{blue|Missoni clearly concludes, "I would like to end with a note on display, and a small demonstration."}}

look glass
{{red|Bits of melted sea glass swirl together to create the translucent shell of a hollow globe which rests on a simple stand of driftwood. Deep lazuline gradates to pale celadon amidst ripples of misty grey, the textured surface and blended colors mimicking the eddies of a heaving sea. While not apparent at first glance, several silvery fish are suspended at the center of the orb. They glint with iridescent hues when light filters through the colored glass, casting dancing prisms on nearby surfaces.
There appears to be something written on it.}}

read glass
{{red|In the Common language, it reads:
"The Origin of Fishcakes" by Missoni Sabretache Faendryl - Second Place, 5122 Solhaven Grand Art Exhibit}}

Phanna nods encouragingly.

{{blue|Missoni explains, "Like many glass pieces, baleglass is best displayed near a light source. Light best showcases the structure and color of the glass. If I were the shade the glass..."}}

Khobra nods respectfully.

{{blue|Missoni waves her hand at a small canteen of spring water but nothing seems to happen.}}

{{blue|Missoni pours herself a small canteen of spring water.}}

(Mirkk runs his fingers across Rohese's back, lightly scratching it.)

{{blue|Missoni carefully places a small canteen of spring water on the floor.}}

{{blue|Missoni gazes intently at a small canteen of spring water while appearing to concentrate. Blackness encroaches upon your vision and you notice Missoni's shadow begins to move towards the spring water. The water fades from view as an errant shadow falls into place. Missoni's shadow begins to split into two pieces, one returning to its position near her, and the other isolated where the spring water used to be.}}

Rohese smiles at Mirkk.

Rohese leans back.

Rohese leans on Mirkk, resting her head against his shoulder.

{{blue|Missoni removes an orb of fused sea glass swirled with vert and aquamarine from on a rose-etched silver music stand.}}

{{blue|(Missoni holds the sphere within the shadow, blocking much of the ambient light from reaching the piece. The glass seems to lose its luster, the colors appearing muted and less vibrant. The sparkling fish at the center disappear in the darkness.)}}

Phanna gazes with interest at Missoni.

{{blue|Missoni says, "We can see it takes something away from the effect."}}

{{blue|Missoni flicks her hand at an errant shadow and its form begins to unravel...}}

{{blue|The errant shadow begins to waver and unravel before your eyes. Tendrils of black essence spiral off and disappear into nothingness as the an errant shadow begins to slowly sink into the ground. The surface begins to boil rapidly like hot oil before the last remaining fiber of the an errant shadow vanishes.}}

{{blue|Missoni put an orb of fused sea glass swirled with vert and aquamarine on a rose-etched silver music stand.}}

Rohese gazes in amazement at Missoni.

Vaikhen gives a short little hum of surprise.

{{blue|Missoni says, "In contrast, display in a well-lighted room can bring the colors to life and send striking prismatic displays along the walls."}}

{{blue|Missoni says, "One tradition that has been documented from our time in Maelshyve is a sort of light show created when baleglass is illuminated with balefire. Historians suspect the practice originated thanks to the lack of light in the depths of the caverns. But, even now, some museums display pieces in darkened rooms lit solely by balefire."}}

{{blue|Missoni happily says, "The effect can be quite breathtaking."}}

Speaking softly to herself, Rohese murmurs, "Oh my."

Phanna nods in agreement.

Rohese presses a hand to her chest, inhaling and exhaling slowly.

Landrai smiles.

Khobra agrees with Missoni.

{{blue|(Missoni opens her palm to reveal a small sphere of greenish-black flame. She holds the flame behind the sphere, allowing it to illuminate the glass. The sphere immediately takes on the light's lurid cast, the blues and greens dancing like a murky lagoon in the afternoon. Amongst the colors, the silvery fish flash, seeming to almost swim in the flickering light.)}}

Moshari breathes in deeply as she clenches a pipe in her mouth, then exhales slowly, causing some pale amorphous clouds of puffy smoke to float up from her mouth.

Kalyrra grins.

Phanna smiles.

{{blue|Missoni concludes, "Thank you all ever so much for listening." She closes her hand, extinguishing the greenish flame and the dancing light within the sphere. "Please let me know if I may answer any questions."}}

Speaking softly to herself, Rohese murmurs, "Amazing!"

Vaikhen taps a gilded jet clockwork owl's beak, causing it to whir some gears and produce a "hoot!" sound.

Khobra applauds Missoni.

Moshari applauds Missoni.

Vaikhen applauds Missoni.

Kalyrra applauds Missoni.

Rohese beams at Missoni and claps her hands together in delight!

Phanna applauds Missoni.

{{blue|Missoni blushes a nice shade of dark red.}}

Traiva applauds.

Akenna applauds Missoni with enthusiasm, seemingly oblivious to her surroundings.

Raelee takes a moment to observe Missoni.

Mirkk smiles at Rohese.

Arenglae applauds Missoni politely.

{{blue|Missoni curtsies.}}

Mirkk applauds Missoni.

Tabubu applauds.

Hadya applauds politely.

Speaking to Missoni, Phanna says, "That was remarkable! I adored your entry at the last exhibit, and I am excited to finally learn more of how you made it."

Phanna smiles.

Khobra takes a drink from her aged Faendryl rum.
She emits a deep, contented sigh.

{{green|Rohese walks to stand behind a small podium.}}

{{blue|Speaking gratefully to Phanna, Missoni exclaims, "Thank you!"}}

{{green|Rohese softly exclaims, "I think, like me, you are all speechless!"}}

{{blue|Missoni says, "I am hoping to explore the technique more."}}

Dendum raises his hand.

{{green|Rohese softly asks, "We have any questions?"}}

Mirkk nods slowly.

Vaikhen raises his hand.

Phanna raises her hand.

Khobra smirks.

{{blue|Missoni nods at Dendum.}}

Speaking to Missoni, Dendum inquires, ""Does the Faendryl know there are other ways one can heat sand to make the glass that does not involve summoning potentially deadly fire that spreads with desire to consume?"

Landrai smiles.

Speaking to Missoni, Dendum informs, ""Can introduce you to kiln."

Ordim nervously giggles.

{{blue|Missoni gazes in amusement at Dendum.}}

Vaikhen begins chuckling at Dendum!

Mirkk appears to be trying hard not to grin.

{{blue|Speaking to Dendum, Missoni says, "Yes, I am aware."}}

Mirkk surreptitiously glances at Dendum.

Arenglae studies Dendum, giving him an intense consideration.

Landrai softly says, "But how boring."

{{blue|Missoni says, "But one uses what one has."}}

Dendum asks, "Ahh good so this is....choice that is made?"

{{blue|Missoni agrees with Landrai.}}

{{blue|Speaking to Dendum, Missoni says, "Sorcery infuses all parts of our lives. To those with enough control, it is not perceived as deadly at all."}}

{{blue|Missoni adds, "Unless we wish it so."}}

Khobra adopts an agreeable expression.

{{blue|Missoni bites her lip.}}

Khobra takes a drink from her aged Faendryl rum.
She emits a deep, contented sigh.

Khobra smirks at Missoni.

Akenna says, "All fire, if not controlled by a skilled person... can be dangerous. A sorcerer with balefire, I would expect to have a very solid amount of control."

Khobra folds her arms over her chest.

Khobra leans to her left slightly.

{{blue|Missoni nods firmly at Akenna.}}

{{blue|Missoni says, "Just so."}}

Akenna smiles at Missoni.

Moshari breathes in deeply as she clenches a pipe in her mouth, then exhales slowly, causing some pale amorphous clouds of puffy smoke to float up from her mouth.

Speaking curiously to Missoni, Vaikhen asks, "Does one need to take any precautions when touching or holding baleglass? Or is it safe to handle as soon as it cools?"

Rohese cocks her head at Vaikhen.

{{blue|Speaking to Vaikhen, Missoni says, "It is perfectly safe to handle when it cools."}}

Vaikhen nods understandingly.

Akenna raises her hand.

Rohese smiles at Akenna.

Rohese nods at Akenna.

{{blue|Missoni says, "Just like any other glass, really."}}

Mirkk ponders.

Phanna takes a drink from her ice cold lemonade.

{{blue|Missoni asks, "Ah, Phanna, I think, and then Akenna?"}}

Speaking softly to Phanna, Rohese says, "I believe you had a question too."

Rohese nods in agreement at Missoni.

Phanna nods in agreement.

Phanna smiles.

{{blue|Missoni cocks her head at Phanna.}}

Phanna asks, "I know that sorcery, or rather, the Art, at its core emphasizes the comination of both elemental and spiritual spheres. Does drawing more upon one or the other of those two spheres affect how it is used in baleglazing?"

Akenna inquires, "Does the balefire affect the physical compound of the glass in any other way? While it is beautiful, I suppose I'd like to know on a component level?"

Akenna's cheeks flush with a soft pale rose shade, darkening her freckles even more.

You raise your hand.

Akenna bashfully apologizes, "Sorry."

Phanna smiles at Akenna.

Speaking to Akenna, Phanna says, "It's so fascinating. I think we all have lots of questions."

Speaking reassuringly to Akenna, Rohese says, "Perfectly fine, so much interest in today's topic."

Vaikhen quietly jokes, "Their questions were far more intellectual than mine."

Vaikhen grins sheepishly.

Rohese giggles softly at Vaikhen.

{{blue|Speaking to Phanna, Missoni says, "Drawing too heavily on the elemental side would impact the color of the flame, perhaps producing a less vibrant green, which might affect display."}}

Speaking softly to Vaikhen, Rohese assures, "All questions are valid and of interest!"

Phanna nods slowly at Missoni.

Vaikhen flushes slightly, some color reaching his cheeks.

{{blue|Missoni says, "But melting the glass would function similarly as with a more elemental form of fire."}}

Phanna nods understandingly.

{{blue|Speaking to Akenna, Missoni says, "It does make the glass more liquid than the traditional method, which requires the compound to be a bit more stable. I have seen glassworkers hold the glass aloft on a sort of bowl of fire so as not so spill the molten liquid."}}

Moshari breathes in deeply as she clenches a pipe in her mouth, then exhales slowly, causing some pale amorphous clouds of puffy smoke to float up from her mouth.

Rohese nods slowly at Missoni.

Akenna nods slowly.

Speaking softly to Missoni, Rohese exclaims, "That leads to my question but I believe Arianiss had one first!"

Rohese nods encouragingly to you.

You ask, "What happens if you baleglaze without control?"

{{blue|Missoni says, "But, that is what allows for more mixing of colors."}}

Mirkk smiles.

Vaikhen glances at you.

Vaikhen's face turns slightly pale.

Speaking amusedly to you, Rohese says, "We are of a similar mind, I see."

{{blue|Speaking to you, Missoni says, "Well, I expect one could start quite a conflagration."}}

{{blue|Missoni frets.}}

Rohese bites her lip.

Khobra cringes.

You ask, "..but I mean.. what type of work will it produce?"

Mirkk frowns.

You ask, "Or just destroys it?"

{{blue|Missoni says, "There have been incidents of sorcerers, ah, splashing themselves with glass, which is quite an unpleasant effect."}}

Mirkk blinks.

Hadya quietly says, "I would imagine something is getting destroyed... person or glass."

A pained expression crosses Rohese's face as she grimaces at Missoni.

Mirkk asks, "Splashing?"

{{blue|Missoni says, "But the end result can also be rather pretty, unformed as it it is."}}

Speaking incredulously to Missoni, Mirkk asks, "LIke, molten glass?"

Khobra agrees with Hadya.

{{blue|Missoni nods at Mirkk.}}

Phanna says, "That sounds quite painful."

Mirkk shudders.

Meril quietly says, "Well, and I would guess that drawing too much on spiritual power is to submit to the will of the flame, rather than command it as sorcerers are wont to. It would allow the power behind the flame to shape it to its will, rather than the sorcerer's."

Rohese agrees with Phanna.

Vaikhen stares into space, appearing to ponder multiple possibilities and potential nuances.

Phanna takes a drink from her ice cold lemonade.

Speaking softly to Meril, Rohese says, "I imagine that would lead to some rather interesting pieces."

Moshari breathes in deeply as she clenches a pipe in her mouth, then exhales slowly, causing some pale amorphous clouds of puffy smoke to float up from her mouth.

Phanna nods in agreement.

{{blue|Speaking to Meril, Missoni says, "Fire spirits can be rather tempermental."}}

{{blue|A pained expression crosses Missoni's face.}}

Meril nods slowly.

{{blue|Missoni muses, "If anyone recalls the Fier'dracus."}}

{{blue|Missoni says, "But that is a bit outside of glass work."}}

Akenna says, "I've always found the element itself to be eager to please and desirous of the approval of it Mistress."

Akenna looks thoughtful for a moment, then shrugs.

Rohese smiles at Akenna.

{{blue|Speaking to Akenna, Missoni says, "Ah, well you have mastered it."}}

Speaking haltingly to Akenna, Vaikhen says, "That-- well, um. That might just ... might just be you."

Akenna's cheeks flush with a soft pale rose shade, darkening her freckles even more.

Vaikhen grins sheepishly.

Speaking diplomatically to Missoni, Rohese inquires, "Have you found yourself at the mercy of such a spirit and suffered injury at all?"

Phanna laughs softly, trying to hide her amusement.

{{blue|Speaking to you, Missoni says, "There are glassworkers who purposely splash their pieces, though, to answer a bit more."}}

Rohese giggles softly at Vaikhen.

Speaking to Vaikhen, Akenna says, "The worst element to work with in my opinion is lightning... it is difficult to direct and wants to do what it wants."

{{blue|Speaking to Rohese, Missoni exclaims, "Fortunately not!"}}

Rohese lets out a sigh of relief for Missoni.

Vaikhen ponders.

Speaking softly to Missoni, Rohese says, "Long may it continue."

{{blue|Missoni amusedly says, "I have merely gotten quite sweaty."}}

Mirkk quietly says, "But fire consumes."

Rohese laughs softly, trying to hide her amusement.

{{blue|Missoni agrees with Rohese.}}

Arenglae nods faintly at Akenna.

Speaking to Missoni, Phanna exclaims, "The horror!"

Phanna laughs softly, trying to hide her amusement.

Vaikhen nods understandingly at Akenna.

Phanna winks at Missoni.

{{blue|Missoni grins at Phanna.}}

{{blue|Missoni fans herself.}}

{{green|Rohese softly asks, "Do we have anymore questions?"}}

{{green|Rohese glances around the room.}}

{{green|Rohese smiles.}}

{{green|Rohese nods once.}}

{{blue|Missoni casually observes her surroundings.}}

Phanna says, "This has been very enlightening. Thank you for sharing the art of baleglazing."

Phanna smiles at Missoni.

{{green|Rohese appreciatively concludes, "Then I am sure you will all join me in thanking our wonderful speaker for sharing her fascinating insights into baleglass."}}

{{blue|Missoni nods gratefully.}}

Dendum applauds politely.

Vaikhen turns to Missoni and cheers!

Meril applauds Missoni.

Phanna applauds.

{{green|Rohese applauds Missoni with enthusiasm, seemingly oblivious to her surroundings.}}

Vaikhen whistles at Missoni!

Tabubu applauds.

Speaking to Missoni, Akenna exclaims, "It was so interesting!"

Landrai applauds.

Ordim applauds.

{{blue|Missoni happily says, "Thank you for allowing me to share."}}

Kalyrra applauds Missoni.

Akenna flashes a wide grin.

Avawren applauds Missoni.

Kalyrra grins.

Landrai softly says, "Well done, such an interesting idea."

Akenna applauds Missoni.

{{green|Speaking softly to Missoni, Rohese exclaims, "Truly fascinating, thank you!"}}

Arenglae applauds politely.

{{blue|Missoni bows.}}

Hadya quietly says, "It was an interesting topic, yes."

Mirkk adopts an agreeable expression.

Dendum says, "Hrmm."

{{green|Rohese gratefully exclaims, "Thank you all so much for coming and I hope to see you all again next month!"}}
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[[Category:Mist Harbor library lectures]]

Mist Harbor Library Lectures - 2022-08-14 - Missoni on Faendryl Glasswork (log)

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The following was a lecture in the Mist Harbor Library Lecture series, where [[Missoni (prime) | Missoni]] was the guest speaker, which was given on 8/14/5122. The topics must be lore based but otherwise are at the discretion of the invited speaker. This lecture is in regards to Faendryl glasswork. This log is for the purpose of posterity and is presented without bias. It has also been edited to be easier to read while attempting to retain an informative flow.

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[Library, Meeting Hall]
A trio of wide stairs lead down from a wide archway into this brightly lit room. A small podium stands atop a small dais opposite the archway, and several cushioned benches have been arranged throughout the space, each offering an excellent line of sight. A number of elliptical windows line the walls of the hall, and a rich crimson-patterned carpet covers the entirety of the floor underfoot.
Also here: Tabubu who is sitting, Mirkk who is sitting, Loremaster Rohese who is sitting, Kalyrra who is sitting, Dendum who is sitting, Ambassador Vaikhen who is sitting, Chatelaine Traiva who is sitting, Lady Akenna who is sitting, Lady Avawren who is sitting, Mistress Khobra, Lady Landrai who is sitting, Meril who is sitting, Chairwoman Phanna who is sitting, Hadya who is sitting, Lady Arenglae who is sitting, Missoni, Relic Hunter Ordim who is sitting, Magister Raelee who is sitting, Moshari who is sitting

{{green|Rohese walks to stand behind a small podium.}}

{{green|Rohese graciously greets, "Good afternoon everyone."}}

{{green|Rohese excitedly exclaims, "Here we are again!"}}

{{green|Rohese eagerly begins, "As the Library's Loremaster, it gives me great pleasure to welcome you to the next in our lecture series."}}

{{green|Rohese brightly explains, "As I'm sure you are all aware by now, the aim is to provide a platform for imparting knowledge and encouraging discussion."}}

{{green|Rohese gently reminds, "I ask that everyone be considerate to our speaker, as well as those who comment or ask questions."}}

{{green|Rohese softly continues, "All opinions are welcome and indeed encouraged, as long as they are courteously expressed."}}

{{green|Rohese smiles.}}

{{green|Rohese softly exclaims, "As always, I am grateful that our speaker agreed to be here today and I'm sure we're in for another fascinating hour!"}}

{{green|Rohese affectionately says, "So, without further ado, please give the delightful Missoni Sabretache a very warm Library welcome."}}

{{green|Rohese beams at Missoni and claps her hands together in delight!}}

{{blue|Missoni blushes a nice shade of dark red.}}

{{green|Rohese takes a few steps back.}}

{{blue|Missoni nods gratefully at Rohese.}}

Khobra applauds Missoni.

Moshari applauds.

Vaikhen applauds Missoni.

Kalyrra applauds Missoni.

{{blue|Missoni strides a few steps forward.}}

Phanna smiles at Missoni.

Meril applauds.

Phanna applauds Missoni.

Vaikhen hoots.

Landrai applauds Missoni.

Vaikhen taps a gilded jet clockwork owl's beak, causing it to whir some gears and produce a "hoot!" sound.

Akenna applauds politely.

{{blue|Missoni's fingers grasp at the neckline of her cloth-of-veniom gown as she takes a deliberate, wavering breath to calm herself.}}

Traiva applauds Missoni.

{{blue|Missoni cheerfully greets, "I see many familiar faces here. In fact, I think we have all met at one point or another, and I am so grateful that you are all here."}}

{{blue|Missoni nods appreciatively.}}

Rohese smiles at Missoni.

{{blue|Missoni adds, "And I hope the dueling sands are treating you well, if you are choosing to partake in them."}}

Arenglae nods faintly at Missoni.

Khobra smirks.

{{blue|Missoni takes a deep breath.}}

Akenna nods cheerfully.

Phanna smiles.

Akenna flashes a wide grin.

Rohese wrinkles her nose.

Phanna takes a drink from her ice cold lemonade.

{{blue|Missoni begins, "When Loremaster Rohese approached me about speaking at the library, I thought perhaps I would discuss some aspect of extraplanar scholarship. A taxonomy of beings, or perhaps of study of the valences."}}

Rohese inclines her head.

{{blue|Missoni produces a rose-etched silver music stand from the depths of her airy robes.}}

{{blue|Missoni sets up a rose-etched silver music stand.}}

{{blue|Missoni amusedly quips, "I am sure she was very excited at that possibility."}}

Rohese laughs softly, trying to hide her amusement.

Rohese lowers her gaze.

{{blue|Missoni taps a rose-etched silver music stand in an admonishing fashion. The silver music stand wiggles briefly before settling down and performing an excellent imitation of an ordinary music stand.}}

Rohese clears her throat.

{{blue|Missoni remarks, "My interest in them is known, after all, as is their importance in Faendryl culture."}}

Khobra turns an inquisitive ear toward Missoni.

Vaikhen nods understandingly.

{{blue|Missoni produces a painted ecru leather volume from the depths of her airy robes.}}

{{blue|Missoni put a painted ecru leather volume on a rose-etched silver music stand.}}

{{blue|Missoni smiles warmly, taking a few paces away from the dais and toward those gathered. Her metallic skirts glimmer with the movement.}}

Rohese gazes with interest at Missoni.

{{blue|Missoni states, "However, I have decided to use this opportunity to expound on a lesser known aspect of Faendryl culture: glasswork."}}

Hadya steeples her fingers in her lap as she glances at Missoni.

Rohese gasps.

Dendum leans forward on his wooden branch, listening intently.

{{blue|Missoni gazes in amusement at Rohese.}}

Ordim ponders.

{{blue|Missoni curiously asks, "How many of you are currently carrying or wearing something made of glass? May I see a show of hands?"}}

Rohese clasps her hand over her mouth.

Phanna smiles at Missoni.

Rohese blushes sheepishly to herself.

Ordim carefully looks himself over.

Dendum raises his hand.

Ordim raises his hand.

Mirkk glances down.

Rohese raises her hand.

{{blue|Missoni casually observes her surroundings.}}

Traiva raises her hand.

Rohese gazes thoughtfully at her wedding band.

Akenna ponders.

Speaking to himself, Ordim whispers aloud, "Probably."

Mirkk shakes his head.

(Vaikhen pats himself down.)

Akenna carefully looks herself over.

Phanna glances appraisingly at a glass of ice cold lemonade in her hand.

Rohese gazes in amusement at Ordim.

Khobra raises her hand.

Traiva begins chortling at Phanna.

Meril checks her equipment, adjusting and rearranging her gear.

Traiva takes a bite of her Mestanir cheese.

{{blue|Missoni asks, "Does anyone mind sharing what they have with them?"}}

Mirkk removes an antique green-tinted glass bottle from in his wool coat.

Mirkk shrugs.

{{blue|Missoni cocks her head.}}

Meril removes a deep green glass vial caged with brilliant copper leaves from her neck.

Rohese smiles.

Mirkk put an antique green-tinted glass bottle in his wool coat.

Rohese raises her hand.

Traiva removes a squat green-sheened jar from in her multi-pocketed carryall.

Dendum put a gnarled wooden branch in his emerald wool cloak.

{{blue|Missoni nods appreciatively.}}

Splaying her fingers wide, Rohese extends her left hand toward Missoni, showing off the wedding band on her left ring finger.

Avawren hums quietly to herself.

Avawren removes a silver-lidded round glass jar from in her pale linden basket.

Hadya taps a bronze-framed bone reliquary that she is wearing.

Unclipping a vibrant leaf cluster brooch at his left shoulder, Dendum carefully wraps a dark emerald wool cloak draped in thick animal pelts from his shoulders and slips his wrist from its attached dark mithril bangle.

Mirkk hums a seemingly random tune.

Fiddling with a vibrant leaf cluster brooch, Dendum carefully pulls it free from the fabric of his emerald wool cloak.

Traiva put a squat green-sheened jar in her multi-pocketed carryall.

{{blue|Missoni says, "Ah, vessels, lovely bracelets, rings..."}}

Avawren chuckles.

Dendum shows Missoni his leaf cluster brooch.

Traiva just opened a sweeping back-slit cloth-of-silver cloak with a deep velvet trimmed hood.

Meril sniffs at her green glass vial.

Traiva removes a silver samite sack from in her back-slit cloak.

Khobra removes a glass of aged Faendryl rum from in her midnight black cloak.

Traiva just opened a silver samite sack.

{{blue|Missoni nods appreciatively.}}

Avawren suggests, "Bug catchers ..."

Khobra takes a drink from her aged Faendryl rum.

Traiva removes a green-flamed arathiel bead from in her silver samite sack.

Dendum fiddles with his leaf cluster brooch and carefully stabs its stickpin into his emerald wool cloak.

Speaking amusedly to Mirkk, Rohese notes, "Grandfather's wine, I see."

{{blue|Missoni says, "Artistic and useful items, all."}}

Slipping his wrist into a thorned dark mithril bangle that is attached to the left side of his emerald wool cloak, Dendum draws the fabric over his arm and up across his left shoulder, around his back, and then pulls it taut under his right arm. With care, he pulls the lower edge across his chest to his left shoulder and pins it into place using a vibrant leaf cluster brooch.

Akenna exclaims, "I have bottles!"

Akenna giggles.

{{blue|Missoni agrees with Akenna.}}

Traiva put a green-flamed arathiel bead in her silver samite sack.

{{blue|Missoni flashes a quick grin.}}

Traiva just closed a silver samite sack.

{{blue|Missoni says, "So we see, glass as a material is prevalent in our daily lives. We may wear it." She pauses to brush her fingertips across the luminous araglass cap crowning her ear. "We may even drink from it, or use it in our home to let the light in and keep the chill out. Thus, many cultures have developed processes aimed toward making beautiful, coveted works of glass."}}

Speaking softly to Traiva, Rohese exclaims, "Pretty!"

Traiva put a silver samite sack in her back-slit cloak.

Traiva just closed a sweeping back-slit cloth-of-silver cloak with a deep velvet trimmed hood.

Traiva grins at Rohese.

Phanna's exhaled breath condenses on the air, visible as a puff of white vapor before it drifts away.

Khobra takes a drink from her aged Faendryl rum.
She pauses for a moment to savor the complex flavors.

{{blue|Missoni glances at an elliptical window.}}

Rohese gazes thoughtfully at an elliptical window.

{{blue|Missoni explains, "Faendryl have developed a type of glasswork that utilizes the heat from balefire to manipulate the glass, a process that has become known as baleglazing."}}

{{blue|Missoni says, "I would like to share with you the cultural importance of this process and some examples of it, so I will first provide some general background on Faendryl art and the history of glasswork in our culture."}}

Vaikhen blinks.

Phanna gazes with interest at Missoni.

Rohese turns an inquisitive ear toward Missoni.

{{blue|Missoni continues, "Then, I will discuss baleglass as an intersection of glasswork and sorcery, as well as the process involved in its creation."}}

Rohese raises an eyebrow.

{{blue|Missoni says, "I will conclude with a brief example of my own interpretation of the process, which utilizes found sea glass. Sea glass is a material that, as you might expect, is not in large supply in New Ta'Faendryl."}}

Speaking interestedly to Mirkk, Rohese whispers aloud, "Baleglass!"

(Missoni takes a small sip of water, clearing her throat lightly.)

{{blue|Missoni cheerfully says, "Firstly, then, some general background on Faendryl art."}}

{{blue|Missoni notes, "I will not be delving into some of the larger movements in painting and sculpture as part of this discussion for the sake of brevity. Rather, I will focus on events and circumstances that lead to the development of baleglass."}}

{{blue|Missoni carefully places her spring water on the floor alongside her.}}

Mirkk raises an eyebrow.

{{blue|Missoni says, "We can trace the importance of found art in Faendryl culture to the time of our departure from the Elven Empire."}}

Tabubu shifts her weight.

Rohese inclines her head.

Mirkk whispers something to Rohese.

Mirkk chortles softly at some secret joke.

{{blue|(Missoni clasps her hands behind her back and takes a few steps toward the right side of the benches, nodding solemnly in Khobra's direction.)}}

Mirkk turns an inquisitive ear toward Missoni.

Rohese gazes in amusement at Mirkk.

{{blue|Missoni explains, "Those first years in the caves of Maelshyve were sparse, and that scarcity influences us even today, from the prevalence of bats and insects used in Faendryl cuisine to the practice of self-expression using unusual objects, the repurposed and the reused."}}

{{blue|Missoni says, "Archaeologist Eveilir Waldshyn Faendryl writes of the evidence of continuing artistic practice found in caves."}}

(Khobra swirls her aged Faendryl rum in circles for a moment, keenly listening to Missoni.)

{{blue|Missoni notes, "The translation from the original Faendryl is mine."}}

{{blue|Missoni removes a painted ecru leather volume from on a rose-etched silver music stand.}}

{{blue|The smell of acrid ink fills the air as Missoni opens her ecru leather volume.}}

{{blue|Missoni reads, "We found discarded tools such as the carved handles of paintbrushes and materials such as ground stone and insects for pigment in the former living quarters. These tools were often stored near survival necessities such as weapons and cookery, suggesting that they were held in similar esteem by their owners."}}

{{blue|Missoni continues, "Further, some painted stone tablets from this era have survived in the care of the Basilica that provide yet more insight into our Faendryl ancestors."}}

Khobra smiles quietly to herself.

{{blue|Missoni says, "Paper was likely carefully rationed and more prone to changes in the environment." She thumbs the vellum pages in her book thoughtfully. "Heartier mediums like stone were favored for creating art and even for writing important documents at that time, despite their seeming unwieldiness."}}

{{blue|Missoni snaps her ecru leather volume shut with a puff of dust.}}

{{blue|Missoni put a painted ecru leather volume on a rose-etched silver music stand.}}

{{blue|Missoni says, "Artwork using pigment and stone often accounts for the medium by creatively employing the natural occlusions, edges, and other formations of the stone as part of the piece itself."}}

Rohese thoughtfully taps a finger against her lips.

{{blue|Missoni states, "In the stone painting Beyond the Veil by an unknown artist, for example, a complex geometric pattern is painted around a fissure formed at the center of the stone tablet. The piece can then be hung to place a person of object in its center."}}

{{blue|(Missoni holds her hands together in front of her face, thumbs and forefingers touching so she is peering through a circle at the audience.)}}

Rohese smiles quietly to herself.

Phanna looks thoughtfully at Missoni.

{{blue|Missoni says, "Art historians see Beyond the Veil as a comment on extraplanar travel. The precise geometry clearly resembles a planar rift, but the subject at the work's center shifts based on both the display location and the viewer's perspective."}}

{{blue|(Missoni slowly pans the audience with her hands, pausing on Dendum to give his a brief wink before dropping them to her sides.)}}

Rohese surreptitiously glances at Dendum.

Mirkk glances at Dendum.

{{blue|Missoni adds, "Glass, of course, is naturally occurring like stone, though there are some processes developed for turning sand to glass."}}

Rohese smiles.

{{blue|Missoni says, "At its most basic, glass is created when lightning strikes the sand, heating and fusing it."}}

{{blue|Missoni thoughtfully says, "If you have visited the Sea of Fire you may be familiar with the phenomenon. It is known there as lightning glass and is used in all manner of adornment."}}

{{blue|Missoni nods slightly at Hadya.}}

Hadya nods once.

Rohese softly exclaims, "Oh!"

Phanna nods in agreement.

{{blue|(Missoni stretches a foot out in front of her to better display the lightning glass set into her shoes.)}}

Mirkk blinks.

Mirkk asks, "Folgerite?"

Speaking interestedly to Mirkk, Rohese whispers aloud, "Now we need to visit, I'd like to see that."

Mirkk nods at Rohese.

{{blue|Missoni says, "Glass was, therefore, in supply in the desert during those early years in the caves, and archaeologists have found glass jewelry and artifacts among works of art created with stone and pigment."}}

(Khobra continues swirling her aged Faendryl rum in circles while keenly listening to Missoni.)

Speaking quietly to Rohese, Mirkk whispers aloud, "I've heard of it. Several different names. Really interesting."

Rohese nods in agreement at Mirkk.

Avawren raises her vellum teacup in a smooth, elegant gesture and takes a small sip.

{{blue|Speaking to Rohese, Missoni murmurs, "There are a few safe corners of the desert."}}

{{blue|Missoni nods encouragingly.}}

Rohese lets out a sigh of relief.

{{blue|Missoni warmly says, "Because they are easier to transport than stone, there are also some examples passed down by families as we migrated from the caves to the New City."}}

Speaking to Rohese, you whisper aloud, "There's also a lot of snakes."

{{blue|Missoni says, "And this brings us to my second major point, the intersection of art and sorcery."}}

Rohese blinks at you.

{{blue|Missoni agrees with you.}}

Vaikhen leans forward.

Mirkk starts chortling at you!

Speaking softly to Mirkk, Rohese whispers aloud, "We won't be going there."

Rohese vigorously shakes her head at Mirkk.

{{blue|Missoni glances down.}}

{{blue|(Missoni pauses to take another sip of water, letting her words hang in the air for a moment.)}}

Mirkk holds up two fingers and slowly pinches them together until they are almost touching.

Kalyrra takes a drink from her well-aged whiskey.

Landrai takes a drink from her ice cold lemonade.

Khobra takes a drink from her aged Faendryl rum.

{{blue|Missoni curiously asks, "Has anyone here heard sorcery called an 'art'? Perhaps we may see another show of hands?"}}

Rohese glances around the room.

Phanna nods once.

Phanna raises her hand.

Vaikhen raises his hand.

Traiva raises her hand.

Khobra raises her hand.

Moshari inhales deeply upon her pipe, puckering her lips and sending out three rings of smoke before her briefly.

{{blue|Missoni casually observes her surroundings.}}

Raelee nods faintly.

Moshari raises her hand.

Mirkk raises his hand.

{{blue|Missoni nods approvingly.}}

{{blue|Missoni says, "Those who practice sorcery do often deem it an art. Likewise, sorcery is regarded as an art throughout much of Faendryl culture, to the extent that Faendryl often refer to it as *The* Art."}}

Arenglae takes a drink from her ice cold lemonade.

Meril cocks her head.

{{blue|Missoni says, "It only follows, then, that the art of sorcery would find its way into the practice of the fine arts--into the development of techniques for sculpture, painting, and performance."}}

Phanna smiles.

Rohese's expression is thoughtful, but her furrowed brow indicates she's working something out for herself.

Akenna gently brushes her sienna hair away from her eyes and, with a deft twist of her wrist, tucks it back into its bindings.

{{blue|Missoni says, "One such example is in the process known as baleglazing, which produces a unique type of glass known as baleglass."}}

{{blue|Missoni says, "Most forms of glasswork involve glassblowing: reheating the glass, turning it to molten, and then reshaping it by exhaling into a slim metal pipe."}}

{{blue|Missoni slowly empties her lungs.}}

Landrai nods.

{{blue|Missoni explains, "Baleglazing works on the same principle. The difference is that the sorcerer manipulates the heat source, balefire, magically and therefore has more control over it." She pauses to take a few steps alongside the row of benches, moving toward the back rows. "Using this technique, the sorcerer forms the glass around and even within the fire."}}

Rohese glances over her shoulder at Missoni.

{{blue|Missoni excitedly says, "The result is that complicated shapes are far more possible, and different colors of glass may be melted and fused together more easily." She begins talking animatedly with her hands as she continues making her way around the benches. "The extreme heat and pattern of the flame lends a unique, almost liquified swirl to the final product."}}

Vaikhen turns to face Missoni.

Ordim fidgets.

(Khobra continues swirling her aged Faendryl rum in circles while keenly listening to Missoni.)

{{blue|Missoni thoughtfully muses, "It is perhaps not coincidental that in the caves of Maelshyve, where water was uncommon, this technique allowed artists to create an ocean-like effect with glass."}}

Moshari breathes in deeply as she clenches a pipe in her mouth, then exhales slowly, causing some pale amorphous clouds of puffy smoke to float up from her mouth.

Phanna looks thoughtfully at Missoni.

Rohese inclines her head.

Khobra agrees with Missoni.

Speaking softly to Mirkk, Rohese whispers aloud, "How pretty!"

{{blue|(Missoni rounds the back row of benches and moves toward the front of the room again as she speaks. "I have here an example of my own creation that I presented at Cairnfang Manor's Art Festival in Solhaven.")}}

{{blue|Missoni produces an orb of fused sea glass swirled with vert and aquamarine from the depths of her airy robes.}}

{{blue|Missoni signals to a rose-etched silver music stand, which hops a bit closer to her.}}

Mirkk blinks.

{{blue|Missoni put an orb of fused sea glass swirled with vert and aquamarine on a rose-etched silver music stand.}}

Rohese gasps.

Avawren laces her fingers around her vellum teacup and hums to herself, appearing lost in thought.

{{blue|Missoni indicates an orb of fused sea glass swirled with vert and aquamarine as a possible option.}}

Rohese softly exclaims, "Gorgeous!"

Mirkk nods in agreement at Rohese.

{{blue|Missoni says, "As you can perhaps see, I melted the glass to mimic the hue and texture of the ocean." She reaches out to trace the swirled pattern with her fingertips. "I was also able to imbed several small crystal fish within the glass, inserting them while the glass was liquid and then allowing the sphere to cool around them."}}

Tabubu leans forward.

Hadya gazes thoughtfully at an orb of fused sea glass swirled with vert and aquamarine on a rose-etched silver music stand.

{{blue|Missoni nods gratefully at Rohese.}}

Phanna smiles at Missoni.

{{blue|Missoni flushes slightly, some color reaching her cheeks.}}

{{blue|Missoni says, "In keeping with Faendryl tradition, I prefer to work with found materials. In this case, I used sea glass collected on the shores and beaches near my residence in Solhaven."}}

Khobra glances between Missoni and an orb of fused sea glass swirled with vert and aquamarine.

Rohese leans forward and rests her chin in her hand, a thoughtful expression on her face.

Rohese gazes thoughtfully at an orb of fused sea glass swirled with vert and aquamarine on a rose-etched silver music stand.

{{blue|Missoni clearly concludes, "I would like to end with a note on display, and a small demonstration."}}

look glass
{{red|Bits of melted sea glass swirl together to create the translucent shell of a hollow globe which rests on a simple stand of driftwood. Deep lazuline gradates to pale celadon amidst ripples of misty grey, the textured surface and blended colors mimicking the eddies of a heaving sea. While not apparent at first glance, several silvery fish are suspended at the center of the orb. They glint with iridescent hues when light filters through the colored glass, casting dancing prisms on nearby surfaces.
There appears to be something written on it.}}

read glass
{{red|In the Common language, it reads:
"The Origin of Fishcakes" by Missoni Sabretache Faendryl - Second Place, 5122 Solhaven Grand Art Exhibit}}

Phanna nods encouragingly.

{{blue|Missoni explains, "Like many glass pieces, baleglass is best displayed near a light source. Light best showcases the structure and color of the glass. If I were the shade the glass..."}}

Khobra nods respectfully.

{{blue|Missoni waves her hand at a small canteen of spring water but nothing seems to happen.}}

{{blue|Missoni pours herself a small canteen of spring water.}}

(Mirkk runs his fingers across Rohese's back, lightly scratching it.)

{{blue|Missoni carefully places a small canteen of spring water on the floor.}}

{{blue|Missoni gazes intently at a small canteen of spring water while appearing to concentrate. Blackness encroaches upon your vision and you notice Missoni's shadow begins to move towards the spring water. The water fades from view as an errant shadow falls into place. Missoni's shadow begins to split into two pieces, one returning to its position near her, and the other isolated where the spring water used to be.}}

Rohese smiles at Mirkk.

Rohese leans back.

Rohese leans on Mirkk, resting her head against his shoulder.

{{blue|Missoni removes an orb of fused sea glass swirled with vert and aquamarine from on a rose-etched silver music stand.}}

(Missoni holds the sphere within the shadow, blocking much of the ambient light from reaching the piece. The glass seems to lose its luster, the colors appearing muted and less vibrant. The sparkling fish at the center disappear in the darkness.)

Phanna gazes with interest at Missoni.

{{blue|Missoni says, "We can see it takes something away from the effect."}}

{{blue|Missoni flicks her hand at an errant shadow and its form begins to unravel...}}

{{blue|The errant shadow begins to waver and unravel before your eyes. Tendrils of black essence spiral off and disappear into nothingness as the an errant shadow begins to slowly sink into the ground. The surface begins to boil rapidly like hot oil before the last remaining fiber of the an errant shadow vanishes.}}

{{blue|Missoni put an orb of fused sea glass swirled with vert and aquamarine on a rose-etched silver music stand.}}

Rohese gazes in amazement at Missoni.

Vaikhen gives a short little hum of surprise.

{{blue|Missoni says, "In contrast, display in a well-lighted room can bring the colors to life and send striking prismatic displays along the walls."}}

{{blue|Missoni says, "One tradition that has been documented from our time in Maelshyve is a sort of light show created when baleglass is illuminated with balefire. Historians suspect the practice originated thanks to the lack of light in the depths of the caverns. But, even now, some museums display pieces in darkened rooms lit solely by balefire."}}

{{blue|Missoni happily says, "The effect can be quite breathtaking."}}

Speaking softly to herself, Rohese murmurs, "Oh my."

Phanna nods in agreement.

Rohese presses a hand to her chest, inhaling and exhaling slowly.

Landrai smiles.

Khobra agrees with Missoni.

{{blue|(Missoni opens her palm to reveal a small sphere of greenish-black flame. She holds the flame behind the sphere, allowing it to illuminate the glass. The sphere immediately takes on the light's lurid cast, the blues and greens dancing like a murky lagoon in the afternoon. Amongst the colors, the silvery fish flash, seeming to almost swim in the flickering light.)}}

Moshari breathes in deeply as she clenches a pipe in her mouth, then exhales slowly, causing some pale amorphous clouds of puffy smoke to float up from her mouth.

Kalyrra grins.

Phanna smiles.

{{blue|Missoni concludes, "Thank you all ever so much for listening." She closes her hand, extinguishing the greenish flame and the dancing light within the sphere. "Please let me know if I may answer any questions."}}

Speaking softly to herself, Rohese murmurs, "Amazing!"

Vaikhen taps a gilded jet clockwork owl's beak, causing it to whir some gears and produce a "hoot!" sound.

Khobra applauds Missoni.

Moshari applauds Missoni.

Vaikhen applauds Missoni.

Kalyrra applauds Missoni.

Rohese beams at Missoni and claps her hands together in delight!

Phanna applauds Missoni.

{{blue|Missoni blushes a nice shade of dark red.}}

Traiva applauds.

Akenna applauds Missoni with enthusiasm, seemingly oblivious to her surroundings.

Raelee takes a moment to observe Missoni.

Mirkk smiles at Rohese.

Arenglae applauds Missoni politely.

{{blue|Missoni curtsies.}}

Mirkk applauds Missoni.

Tabubu applauds.

Hadya applauds politely.

Speaking to Missoni, Phanna says, "That was remarkable! I adored your entry at the last exhibit, and I am excited to finally learn more of how you made it."

Phanna smiles.

Khobra takes a drink from her aged Faendryl rum.
She emits a deep, contented sigh.

{{green|Rohese walks to stand behind a small podium.}}

{{blue|Speaking gratefully to Phanna, Missoni exclaims, "Thank you!"}}

{{green|Rohese softly exclaims, "I think, like me, you are all speechless!"}}

{{blue|Missoni says, "I am hoping to explore the technique more."}}

Dendum raises his hand.

{{green|Rohese softly asks, "We have any questions?"}}

Mirkk nods slowly.

Vaikhen raises his hand.

Phanna raises her hand.

Khobra smirks.

{{blue|Missoni nods at Dendum.}}

Speaking to Missoni, Dendum inquires, ""Does the Faendryl know there are other ways one can heat sand to make the glass that does not involve summoning potentially deadly fire that spreads with desire to consume?"

Landrai smiles.

Speaking to Missoni, Dendum informs, ""Can introduce you to kiln."

Ordim nervously giggles.

{{blue|Missoni gazes in amusement at Dendum.}}

Vaikhen begins chuckling at Dendum!

Mirkk appears to be trying hard not to grin.

{{blue|Speaking to Dendum, Missoni says, "Yes, I am aware."}}

Mirkk surreptitiously glances at Dendum.

Arenglae studies Dendum, giving him an intense consideration.

Landrai softly says, "But how boring."

{{blue|Missoni says, "But one uses what one has."}}

Dendum asks, "Ahh good so this is....choice that is made?"

{{blue|Missoni agrees with Landrai.}}

{{blue|Speaking to Dendum, Missoni says, "Sorcery infuses all parts of our lives. To those with enough control, it is not perceived as deadly at all."}}

{{blue|Missoni adds, "Unless we wish it so."}}

Khobra adopts an agreeable expression.

{{blue|Missoni bites her lip.}}

Khobra takes a drink from her aged Faendryl rum.
She emits a deep, contented sigh.

Khobra smirks at Missoni.

Akenna says, "All fire, if not controlled by a skilled person... can be dangerous. A sorcerer with balefire, I would expect to have a very solid amount of control."

Khobra folds her arms over her chest.

Khobra leans to her left slightly.

{{blue|Missoni nods firmly at Akenna.}}

{{blue|Missoni says, "Just so."}}

Akenna smiles at Missoni.

Moshari breathes in deeply as she clenches a pipe in her mouth, then exhales slowly, causing some pale amorphous clouds of puffy smoke to float up from her mouth.

Speaking curiously to Missoni, Vaikhen asks, "Does one need to take any precautions when touching or holding baleglass? Or is it safe to handle as soon as it cools?"

Rohese cocks her head at Vaikhen.

{{blue|Speaking to Vaikhen, Missoni says, "It is perfectly safe to handle when it cools."}}

Vaikhen nods understandingly.

Akenna raises her hand.

Rohese smiles at Akenna.

Rohese nods at Akenna.

{{blue|Missoni says, "Just like any other glass, really."}}

Mirkk ponders.

Phanna takes a drink from her ice cold lemonade.

{{blue|Missoni asks, "Ah, Phanna, I think, and then Akenna?"}}

Speaking softly to Phanna, Rohese says, "I believe you had a question too."

Rohese nods in agreement at Missoni.

Phanna nods in agreement.

Phanna smiles.

{{blue|Missoni cocks her head at Phanna.}}

Phanna asks, "I know that sorcery, or rather, the Art, at its core emphasizes the comination of both elemental and spiritual spheres. Does drawing more upon one or the other of those two spheres affect how it is used in baleglazing?"

Akenna inquires, "Does the balefire affect the physical compound of the glass in any other way? While it is beautiful, I suppose I'd like to know on a component level?"

Akenna's cheeks flush with a soft pale rose shade, darkening her freckles even more.

You raise your hand.

Akenna bashfully apologizes, "Sorry."

Phanna smiles at Akenna.

Speaking to Akenna, Phanna says, "It's so fascinating. I think we all have lots of questions."

Speaking reassuringly to Akenna, Rohese says, "Perfectly fine, so much interest in today's topic."

Vaikhen quietly jokes, "Their questions were far more intellectual than mine."

Vaikhen grins sheepishly.

Rohese giggles softly at Vaikhen.

{{blue|Speaking to Phanna, Missoni says, "Drawing too heavily on the elemental side would impact the color of the flame, perhaps producing a less vibrant green, which might affect display."}}

Speaking softly to Vaikhen, Rohese assures, "All questions are valid and of interest!"

Phanna nods slowly at Missoni.

Vaikhen flushes slightly, some color reaching his cheeks.

{{blue|Missoni says, "But melting the glass would function similarly as with a more elemental form of fire."}}

Phanna nods understandingly.

{{blue|Speaking to Akenna, Missoni says, "It does make the glass more liquid than the traditional method, which requires the compound to be a bit more stable. I have seen glassworkers hold the glass aloft on a sort of bowl of fire so as not so spill the molten liquid."}}

Moshari breathes in deeply as she clenches a pipe in her mouth, then exhales slowly, causing some pale amorphous clouds of puffy smoke to float up from her mouth.

Rohese nods slowly at Missoni.

Akenna nods slowly.

Speaking softly to Missoni, Rohese exclaims, "That leads to my question but I believe Arianiss had one first!"

Rohese nods encouragingly to you.

You ask, "What happens if you baleglaze without control?"

{{blue|Missoni says, "But, that is what allows for more mixing of colors."}}

Mirkk smiles.

Vaikhen glances at you.

Vaikhen's face turns slightly pale.

Speaking amusedly to you, Rohese says, "We are of a similar mind, I see."

{{blue|Speaking to you, Missoni says, "Well, I expect one could start quite a conflagration."}}

{{blue|Missoni frets.}}

Rohese bites her lip.

Khobra cringes.

You ask, "..but I mean.. what type of work will it produce?"

Mirkk frowns.

You ask, "Or just destroys it?"

{{blue|Missoni says, "There have been incidents of sorcerers, ah, splashing themselves with glass, which is quite an unpleasant effect."}}

Mirkk blinks.

Hadya quietly says, "I would imagine something is getting destroyed... person or glass."

A pained expression crosses Rohese's face as she grimaces at Missoni.

Mirkk asks, "Splashing?"

{{blue|Missoni says, "But the end result can also be rather pretty, unformed as it it is."}}

Speaking incredulously to Missoni, Mirkk asks, "LIke, molten glass?"

Khobra agrees with Hadya.

{{blue|Missoni nods at Mirkk.}}

Phanna says, "That sounds quite painful."

Mirkk shudders.

Meril quietly says, "Well, and I would guess that drawing too much on spiritual power is to submit to the will of the flame, rather than command it as sorcerers are wont to. It would allow the power behind the flame to shape it to its will, rather than the sorcerer's."

Rohese agrees with Phanna.

Vaikhen stares into space, appearing to ponder multiple possibilities and potential nuances.

Phanna takes a drink from her ice cold lemonade.

Speaking softly to Meril, Rohese says, "I imagine that would lead to some rather interesting pieces."

Moshari breathes in deeply as she clenches a pipe in her mouth, then exhales slowly, causing some pale amorphous clouds of puffy smoke to float up from her mouth.

Phanna nods in agreement.

{{blue|Speaking to Meril, Missoni says, "Fire spirits can be rather tempermental."}}

{{blue|A pained expression crosses Missoni's face.}}

Meril nods slowly.

{{blue|Missoni muses, "If anyone recalls the Fier'dracus."}}

{{blue|Missoni says, "But that is a bit outside of glass work."}}

Akenna says, "I've always found the element itself to be eager to please and desirous of the approval of it Mistress."

Akenna looks thoughtful for a moment, then shrugs.

Rohese smiles at Akenna.

{{blue|Speaking to Akenna, Missoni says, "Ah, well you have mastered it."}}

Speaking haltingly to Akenna, Vaikhen says, "That-- well, um. That might just ... might just be you."

Akenna's cheeks flush with a soft pale rose shade, darkening her freckles even more.

Vaikhen grins sheepishly.

Speaking diplomatically to Missoni, Rohese inquires, "Have you found yourself at the mercy of such a spirit and suffered injury at all?"

Phanna laughs softly, trying to hide her amusement.

{{blue|Speaking to you, Missoni says, "There are glassworkers who purposely splash their pieces, though, to answer a bit more."}}

Rohese giggles softly at Vaikhen.

Speaking to Vaikhen, Akenna says, "The worst element to work with in my opinion is lightning... it is difficult to direct and wants to do what it wants."

{{blue|Speaking to Rohese, Missoni exclaims, "Fortunately not!"}}

Rohese lets out a sigh of relief for Missoni.

Vaikhen ponders.

Speaking softly to Missoni, Rohese says, "Long may it continue."

{{blue|Missoni amusedly says, "I have merely gotten quite sweaty."}}

Mirkk quietly says, "But fire consumes."

Rohese laughs softly, trying to hide her amusement.

{{blue|Missoni agrees with Rohese.}}

Arenglae nods faintly at Akenna.

Speaking to Missoni, Phanna exclaims, "The horror!"

Phanna laughs softly, trying to hide her amusement.

Vaikhen nods understandingly at Akenna.

Phanna winks at Missoni.

{{blue|Missoni grins at Phanna.}}

{{blue|Missoni fans herself.}}

{{green|Rohese softly asks, "Do we have anymore questions?"}}

{{green|Rohese glances around the room.}}

{{green|Rohese smiles.}}

{{green|Rohese nods once.}}

{{blue|Missoni casually observes her surroundings.}}

Phanna says, "This has been very enlightening. Thank you for sharing the art of baleglazing."

Phanna smiles at Missoni.

{{green|Rohese appreciatively concludes, "Then I am sure you will all join me in thanking our wonderful speaker for sharing her fascinating insights into baleglass."}}

{{blue|Missoni nods gratefully.}}

Dendum applauds politely.

Vaikhen turns to Missoni and cheers!

Meril applauds Missoni.

Phanna applauds.

{{green|Rohese applauds Missoni with enthusiasm, seemingly oblivious to her surroundings.}}

Vaikhen whistles at Missoni!

Tabubu applauds.

Speaking to Missoni, Akenna exclaims, "It was so interesting!"

Landrai applauds.

Ordim applauds.

{{blue|Missoni happily says, "Thank you for allowing me to share."}}

Kalyrra applauds Missoni.

Akenna flashes a wide grin.

Avawren applauds Missoni.

Kalyrra grins.

Landrai softly says, "Well done, such an interesting idea."

Akenna applauds Missoni.

{{green|Speaking softly to Missoni, Rohese exclaims, "Truly fascinating, thank you!"}}

Arenglae applauds politely.

{{blue|Missoni bows.}}

Hadya quietly says, "It was an interesting topic, yes."

Mirkk adopts an agreeable expression.

Dendum says, "Hrmm."

{{green|Rohese gratefully exclaims, "Thank you all so much for coming and I hope to see you all again next month!"}}
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[[Category:Logs]]
[[Category:Mist Harbor library lectures]]

Mist Harbor Library Lectures - 2022-08-14 - Missoni on Faendryl Glasswork (log)

2023-04-04T09:06:30Z

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The following was a lecture in the Mist Harbor Library Lecture series, where [[Missoni (prime) | Missoni]] was the guest speaker, which was given on 8/14/5122. The topics must be lore based but otherwise are at the discretion of the invited speaker. This lecture is in regards to Faendryl glasswork. This log is for the purpose of posterity and is presented without bias. It has also been edited to be easier to read while attempting to retain an informative flow.

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[Library, Meeting Hall]
A trio of wide stairs lead down from a wide archway into this brightly lit room. A small podium stands atop a small dais opposite the archway, and several cushioned benches have been arranged throughout the space, each offering an excellent line of sight. A number of elliptical windows line the walls of the hall, and a rich crimson-patterned carpet covers the entirety of the floor underfoot.
Also here: Tabubu who is sitting, Mirkk who is sitting, Loremaster Rohese who is sitting, Kalyrra who is sitting, Dendum who is sitting, Ambassador Vaikhen who is sitting, Chatelaine Traiva who is sitting, Lady Akenna who is sitting, Lady Avawren who is sitting, Mistress Khobra, Lady Landrai who is sitting, Meril who is sitting, Chairwoman Phanna who is sitting, Hadya who is sitting, Lady Arenglae who is sitting, Missoni, Relic Hunter Ordim who is sitting, Magister Raelee who is sitting, Moshari who is sitting

{{green|Rohese walks to stand behind a small podium.}}

{{green|Rohese graciously greets, "Good afternoon everyone."}}

{{green|Rohese excitedly exclaims, "Here we are again!"}}

{{green|Rohese eagerly begins, "As the Library's Loremaster, it gives me great pleasure to welcome you to the next in our lecture series."}}

{{green|Rohese brightly explains, "As I'm sure you are all aware by now, the aim is to provide a platform for imparting knowledge and encouraging discussion."}}

{{green|Rohese gently reminds, "I ask that everyone be considerate to our speaker, as well as those who comment or ask questions."}}

{{green|Rohese softly continues, "All opinions are welcome and indeed encouraged, as long as they are courteously expressed."}}

{{green|Rohese smiles.}}

{{green|Rohese softly exclaims, "As always, I am grateful that our speaker agreed to be here today and I'm sure we're in for another fascinating hour!"}}

{{green|Rohese affectionately says, "So, without further ado, please give the delightful Missoni Sabretache a very warm Library welcome."}}

{{green|Rohese beams at Missoni and claps her hands together in delight!}}

{{blue|Missoni blushes a nice shade of dark red.}}

{{green|Rohese takes a few steps back.}}

{{blue|Missoni nods gratefully at Rohese.}}

Khobra applauds Missoni.

Moshari applauds.

Vaikhen applauds Missoni.

Kalyrra applauds Missoni.

{{blue|Missoni strides a few steps forward.}}

Phanna smiles at Missoni.

Meril applauds.

Phanna applauds Missoni.

Vaikhen hoots.

Landrai applauds Missoni.

Vaikhen taps a gilded jet clockwork owl's beak, causing it to whir some gears and produce a "hoot!" sound.

Akenna applauds politely.

{{blue|Missoni's fingers grasp at the neckline of her cloth-of-veniom gown as she takes a deliberate, wavering breath to calm herself.}}

Traiva applauds Missoni.

{{blue|Missoni cheerfully greets, "I see many familiar faces here. In fact, I think we have all met at one point or another, and I am so grateful that you are all here."}}

{{blue|Missoni nods appreciatively.}}

Rohese smiles at Missoni.

{{blue|Missoni adds, "And I hope the dueling sands are treating you well, if you are choosing to partake in them."}}

Arenglae nods faintly at Missoni.

Khobra smirks.

{{blue|Missoni takes a deep breath.}}

Akenna nods cheerfully.

Phanna smiles.

Akenna flashes a wide grin.

Rohese wrinkles her nose.

Phanna takes a drink from her ice cold lemonade.

{{blue|Missoni begins, "When Loremaster Rohese approached me about speaking at the library, I thought perhaps I would discuss some aspect of extraplanar scholarship. A taxonomy of beings, or perhaps of study of the valences."}}

Rohese inclines her head.

{{blue|Missoni produces a rose-etched silver music stand from the depths of her airy robes.}}

{{blue|Missoni sets up a rose-etched silver music stand.}}

{{blue|Missoni amusedly quips, "I am sure she was very excited at that possibility."}}

Rohese laughs softly, trying to hide her amusement.

Rohese lowers her gaze.

{{blue|Missoni taps a rose-etched silver music stand in an admonishing fashion. The silver music stand wiggles briefly before settling down and performing an excellent imitation of an ordinary music stand.}}

Rohese clears her throat.

{{blue|Missoni remarks, "My interest in them is known, after all, as is their importance in Faendryl culture."}}

Khobra turns an inquisitive ear toward Missoni.

Vaikhen nods understandingly.

{{blue|Missoni produces a painted ecru leather volume from the depths of her airy robes.}}

{{blue|Missoni put a painted ecru leather volume on a rose-etched silver music stand.}}

{{blue|Missoni smiles warmly, taking a few paces away from the dais and toward those gathered. Her metallic skirts glimmer with the movement.}}

Rohese gazes with interest at Missoni.

{{blue|Missoni states, "However, I have decided to use this opportunity to expound on a lesser known aspect of Faendryl culture: glasswork."}}

Hadya steeples her fingers in her lap as she glances at Missoni.

Rohese gasps.

Dendum leans forward on his wooden branch, listening intently.

{{blue|Missoni gazes in amusement at Rohese.}}

Ordim ponders.

{{blue|Missoni curiously asks, "How many of you are currently carrying or wearing something made of glass? May I see a show of hands?"}}

Rohese clasps her hand over her mouth.

Phanna smiles at Missoni.

Rohese blushes sheepishly to herself.

Ordim carefully looks himself over.

Dendum raises his hand.

Ordim raises his hand.

Mirkk glances down.

Rohese raises her hand.

{{blue|Missoni casually observes her surroundings.}}

Traiva raises her hand.

Rohese gazes thoughtfully at her wedding band.

Akenna ponders.

Speaking to himself, Ordim whispers aloud, "Probably."

Mirkk shakes his head.

(Vaikhen pats himself down.)

Akenna carefully looks herself over.

Phanna glances appraisingly at a glass of ice cold lemonade in her hand.

Rohese gazes in amusement at Ordim.

Khobra raises her hand.

Traiva begins chortling at Phanna.

Meril checks her equipment, adjusting and rearranging her gear.

Traiva takes a bite of her Mestanir cheese.

{{blue|Missoni asks, "Does anyone mind sharing what they have with them?"}}

Mirkk removes an antique green-tinted glass bottle from in his wool coat.

Mirkk shrugs.

{{blue|Missoni cocks her head.}}

Meril removes a deep green glass vial caged with brilliant copper leaves from her neck.

Rohese smiles.

Mirkk put an antique green-tinted glass bottle in his wool coat.

Rohese raises her hand.

Traiva removes a squat green-sheened jar from in her multi-pocketed carryall.

Dendum put a gnarled wooden branch in his emerald wool cloak.

{{blue|Missoni nods appreciatively.}}

Splaying her fingers wide, Rohese extends her left hand toward Missoni, showing off the wedding band on her left ring finger.

Avawren hums quietly to herself.

Avawren removes a silver-lidded round glass jar from in her pale linden basket.

Hadya taps a bronze-framed bone reliquary that she is wearing.

Unclipping a vibrant leaf cluster brooch at his left shoulder, Dendum carefully wraps a dark emerald wool cloak draped in thick animal pelts from his shoulders and slips his wrist from its attached dark mithril bangle.

Mirkk hums a seemingly random tune.

Fiddling with a vibrant leaf cluster brooch, Dendum carefully pulls it free from the fabric of his emerald wool cloak.

Traiva put a squat green-sheened jar in her multi-pocketed carryall.

{{blue|Missoni says, "Ah, vessels, lovely bracelets, rings..."}}

Avawren chuckles.

Dendum shows Missoni his leaf cluster brooch.

Traiva just opened a sweeping back-slit cloth-of-silver cloak with a deep velvet trimmed hood.

Meril sniffs at her green glass vial.

Traiva removes a silver samite sack from in her back-slit cloak.

Khobra removes a glass of aged Faendryl rum from in her midnight black cloak.

Traiva just opened a silver samite sack.

{{blue|Missoni nods appreciatively.}}

Avawren suggests, "Bug catchers ..."

Khobra takes a drink from her aged Faendryl rum.

Traiva removes a green-flamed arathiel bead from in her silver samite sack.

Dendum fiddles with his leaf cluster brooch and carefully stabs its stickpin into his emerald wool cloak.

Speaking amusedly to Mirkk, Rohese notes, "Grandfather's wine, I see."

{{blue|Missoni says, "Artistic and useful items, all."}}

Slipping his wrist into a thorned dark mithril bangle that is attached to the left side of his emerald wool cloak, Dendum draws the fabric over his arm and up across his left shoulder, around his back, and then pulls it taut under his right arm. With care, he pulls the lower edge across his chest to his left shoulder and pins it into place using a vibrant leaf cluster brooch.

Akenna exclaims, "I have bottles!"

Akenna giggles.

{{blue|Missoni agrees with Akenna.}}

Traiva put a green-flamed arathiel bead in her silver samite sack.

{{blue|Missoni flashes a quick grin.}}

Traiva just closed a silver samite sack.

{{blue|Missoni says, "So we see, glass as a material is prevalent in our daily lives. We may wear it." She pauses to brush her fingertips across the luminous araglass cap crowning her ear. "We may even drink from it, or use it in our home to let the light in and keep the chill out. Thus, many cultures have developed processes aimed toward making beautiful, coveted works of glass."}}

Speaking softly to Traiva, Rohese exclaims, "Pretty!"

Traiva put a silver samite sack in her back-slit cloak.

Traiva just closed a sweeping back-slit cloth-of-silver cloak with a deep velvet trimmed hood.

Traiva grins at Rohese.

Phanna's exhaled breath condenses on the air, visible as a puff of white vapor before it drifts away.

Khobra takes a drink from her aged Faendryl rum.
She pauses for a moment to savor the complex flavors.

{{blue|Missoni glances at an elliptical window.}}

Rohese gazes thoughtfully at an elliptical window.

{{blue|Missoni explains, "Faendryl have developed a type of glasswork that utilizes the heat from balefire to manipulate the glass, a process that has become known as baleglazing."}}

{{blue|Missoni says, "I would like to share with you the cultural importance of this process and some examples of it, so I will first provide some general background on Faendryl art and the history of glasswork in our culture."}}

Vaikhen blinks.

Phanna gazes with interest at Missoni.

Rohese turns an inquisitive ear toward Missoni.

{{blue|Missoni continues, "Then, I will discuss baleglass as an intersection of glasswork and sorcery, as well as the process involved in its creation."}}

Rohese raises an eyebrow.

{{blue|Missoni says, "I will conclude with a brief example of my own interpretation of the process, which utilizes found sea glass. Sea glass is a material that, as you might expect, is not in large supply in New Ta'Faendryl."}}

Speaking interestedly to Mirkk, Rohese whispers aloud, "Baleglass!"

(Missoni takes a small sip of water, clearing her throat lightly.)

{{blue|Missoni cheerfully says, "Firstly, then, some general background on Faendryl art."}}

{{blue|Missoni notes, "I will not be delving into some of the larger movements in painting and sculpture as part of this discussion for the sake of brevity. Rather, I will focus on events and circumstances that lead to the development of baleglass."}}

{{blue|Missoni carefully places her spring water on the floor alongside her.}}

Mirkk raises an eyebrow.

{{blue|Missoni says, "We can trace the importance of found art in Faendryl culture to the time of our departure from the Elven Empire."}}

Tabubu shifts her weight.

Rohese inclines her head.

Mirkk whispers something to Rohese.

Mirkk chortles softly at some secret joke.

{{blue|(Missoni clasps her hands behind her back and takes a few steps toward the right side of the benches, nodding solemnly in Khobra's direction.)}}

Mirkk turns an inquisitive ear toward Missoni.

Rohese gazes in amusement at Mirkk.

{{blue|Missoni explains, "Those first years in the caves of Maelshyve were sparse, and that scarcity influences us even today, from the prevalence of bats and insects used in Faendryl cuisine to the practice of self-expression using unusual objects, the repurposed and the reused."}}

{{blue|Missoni says, "Archaeologist Eveilir Waldshyn Faendryl writes of the evidence of continuing artistic practice found in caves."}}

(Khobra swirls her aged Faendryl rum in circles for a moment, keenly listening to Missoni.)

{{blue|Missoni notes, "The translation from the original Faendryl is mine."}}

{{blue|Missoni removes a painted ecru leather volume from on a rose-etched silver music stand.}}

{{blue|The smell of acrid ink fills the air as Missoni opens her ecru leather volume.}}

{{blue|Missoni reads, "We found discarded tools such as the carved handles of paintbrushes and materials such as ground stone and insects for pigment in the former living quarters. These tools were often stored near survival necessities such as weapons and cookery, suggesting that they were held in similar esteem by their owners."}}

{{blue|Missoni continues, "Further, some painted stone tablets from this era have survived in the care of the Basilica that provide yet more insight into our Faendryl ancestors."}}

Khobra smiles quietly to herself.

{{blue|Missoni says, "Paper was likely carefully rationed and more prone to changes in the environment." She thumbs the vellum pages in her book thoughtfully. "Heartier mediums like stone were favored for creating art and even for writing important documents at that time, despite their seeming unwieldiness."}}

{{blue|Missoni snaps her ecru leather volume shut with a puff of dust.}}

{{blue|Missoni put a painted ecru leather volume on a rose-etched silver music stand.}}

{{blue|Missoni says, "Artwork using pigment and stone often accounts for the medium by creatively employing the natural occlusions, edges, and other formations of the stone as part of the piece itself."}}

Rohese thoughtfully taps a finger against her lips.

{{blue|Missoni states, "In the stone painting Beyond the Veil by an unknown artist, for example, a complex geometric pattern is painted around a fissure formed at the center of the stone tablet. The piece can then be hung to place a person of object in its center."}}

{{blue|(Missoni holds her hands together in front of her face, thumbs and forefingers touching so she is peering through a circle at the audience.)}}

Rohese smiles quietly to herself.

Phanna looks thoughtfully at Missoni.

{{blue|Missoni says, "Art historians see Beyond the Veil as a comment on extraplanar travel. The precise geometry clearly resembles a planar rift, but the subject at the work's center shifts based on both the display location and the viewer's perspective."}}

{{blue|(Missoni slowly pans the audience with her hands, pausing on Dendum to give his a brief wink before dropping them to her sides.)}}

Rohese surreptitiously glances at Dendum.

Mirkk glances at Dendum.

{{blue|Missoni adds, "Glass, of course, is naturally occurring like stone, though there are some processes developed for turning sand to glass."}}

Rohese smiles.

{{blue|Missoni says, "At its most basic, glass is created when lightning strikes the sand, heating and fusing it."}}

{{blue|Missoni thoughtfully says, "If you have visited the Sea of Fire you may be familiar with the phenomenon. It is known there as lightning glass and is used in all manner of adornment."}}

{{blue|Missoni nods slightly at Hadya.}}

Hadya nods once.

Rohese softly exclaims, "Oh!"

Phanna nods in agreement.

{{blue|(Missoni stretches a foot out in front of her to better display the lightning glass set into her shoes.)}}

Mirkk blinks.

Mirkk asks, "Folgerite?"

Speaking interestedly to Mirkk, Rohese whispers aloud, "Now we need to visit, I'd like to see that."

Mirkk nods at Rohese.

{{blue|Missoni says, "Glass was, therefore, in supply in the desert during those early years in the caves, and archaeologists have found glass jewelry and artifacts among works of art created with stone and pigment."}}

(Khobra continues swirling her aged Faendryl rum in circles while keenly listening to Missoni.)

Speaking quietly to Rohese, Mirkk whispers aloud, "I've heard of it. Several different names. Really interesting."

Rohese nods in agreement at Mirkk.

Avawren raises her vellum teacup in a smooth, elegant gesture and takes a small sip.

{{blue|Speaking to Rohese, Missoni murmurs, "There are a few safe corners of the desert."}}

{{blue|Missoni nods encouragingly.}}

Rohese lets out a sigh of relief.

{{blue|Missoni warmly says, "Because they are easier to transport than stone, there are also some examples passed down by families as we migrated from the caves to the New City."}}

Speaking to Rohese, you whisper aloud, "There's also a lot of snakes."

{{blue|Missoni says, "And this brings us to my second major point, the intersection of art and sorcery."}}

Rohese blinks at you.

{{blue|Missoni agrees with you.}}

Vaikhen leans forward.

Mirkk starts chortling at you!

Speaking softly to Mirkk, Rohese whispers aloud, "We won't be going there."

Rohese vigorously shakes her head at Mirkk.

{{blue|Missoni glances down.}}

{{blue|(Missoni pauses to take another sip of water, letting her words hang in the air for a moment.)}}

Mirkk holds up two fingers and slowly pinches them together until they are almost touching.

Kalyrra takes a drink from her well-aged whiskey.

Landrai takes a drink from her ice cold lemonade.

Khobra takes a drink from her aged Faendryl rum.

{{blue|Missoni curiously asks, "Has anyone here heard sorcery called an 'art'? Perhaps we may see another show of hands?"}}

Rohese glances around the room.

Phanna nods once.

Phanna raises her hand.

Vaikhen raises his hand.

Traiva raises her hand.

Khobra raises her hand.

Moshari inhales deeply upon her pipe, puckering her lips and sending out three rings of smoke before her briefly.

{{blue|Missoni casually observes her surroundings.}}

Raelee nods faintly.

Moshari raises her hand.

Mirkk raises his hand.

{{blue|Missoni nods approvingly.}}

{{blue|Missoni says, "Those who practice sorcery do often deem it an art. Likewise, sorcery is regarded as an art throughout much of Faendryl culture, to the extent that Faendryl often refer to it as *The* Art."}}

Arenglae takes a drink from her ice cold lemonade.

Meril cocks her head.

{{blue|Missoni says, "It only follows, then, that the art of sorcery would find its way into the practice of the fine arts--into the development of techniques for sculpture, painting, and performance."}}

Phanna smiles.

Rohese's expression is thoughtful, but her furrowed brow indicates she's working something out for herself.

Akenna gently brushes her sienna hair away from her eyes and, with a deft twist of her wrist, tucks it back into its bindings.

{{blue|Missoni says, "One such example is in the process known as baleglazing, which produces a unique type of glass known as baleglass."}}

{{blue|Missoni says, "Most forms of glasswork involve glassblowing: reheating the glass, turning it to molten, and then reshaping it by exhaling into a slim metal pipe."}}

{{blue|Missoni slowly empties her lungs.}}

Landrai nods.

{{blue|Missoni explains, "Baleglazing works on the same principle. The difference is that the sorcerer manipulates the heat source, balefire, magically and therefore has more control over it." She pauses to take a few steps alongside the row of benches, moving toward the back rows. "Using this technique, the sorcerer forms the glass around and even within the fire."}}

Rohese glances over her shoulder at Missoni.

{{blue|Missoni excitedly says, "The result is that complicated shapes are far more possible, and different colors of glass may be melted and fused together more easily." She begins talking animatedly with her hands as she continues making her way around the benches. "The extreme heat and pattern of the flame lends a unique, almost liquified swirl to the final product."}}

Vaikhen turns to face Missoni.

Ordim fidgets.

(Khobra continues swirling her aged Faendryl rum in circles while keenly listening to Missoni.)

{{blue|Missoni thoughtfully muses, "It is perhaps not coincidental that in the caves of Maelshyve, where water was uncommon, this technique allowed artists to create an ocean-like effect with glass."}}

Moshari breathes in deeply as she clenches a pipe in her mouth, then exhales slowly, causing some pale amorphous clouds of puffy smoke to float up from her mouth.

Phanna looks thoughtfully at Missoni.

Rohese inclines her head.

Khobra agrees with Missoni.

Speaking softly to Mirkk, Rohese whispers aloud, "How pretty!"

{{blue|(Missoni rounds the back row of benches and moves toward the front of the room again as she speaks. "I have here an example of my own creation that I presented at Cairnfang Manor's Art Festival in Solhaven.")}}

{{blue|Missoni produces an orb of fused sea glass swirled with vert and aquamarine from the depths of her airy robes.}}

{{blue|Missoni signals to a rose-etched silver music stand, which hops a bit closer to her.}}

Mirkk blinks.

{{blue|Missoni put an orb of fused sea glass swirled with vert and aquamarine on a rose-etched silver music stand.}}

Rohese gasps.

Avawren laces her fingers around her vellum teacup and hums to herself, appearing lost in thought.

{{blue|Missoni indicates an orb of fused sea glass swirled with vert and aquamarine as a possible option.}}

Rohese softly exclaims, "Gorgeous!"

Mirkk nods in agreement at Rohese.

{{blue|Missoni says, "As you can perhaps see, I melted the glass to mimic the hue and texture of the ocean." She reaches out to trace the swirled pattern with her fingertips. "I was also able to imbed several small crystal fish within the glass, inserting them while the glass was liquid and then allowing the sphere to cool around them."}}

Tabubu leans forward.

Hadya gazes thoughtfully at an orb of fused sea glass swirled with vert and aquamarine on a rose-etched silver music stand.

{{blue|Missoni nods gratefully at Rohese.}}

Phanna smiles at Missoni.

{{blue|Missoni flushes slightly, some color reaching her cheeks.}}

{{blue|Missoni says, "In keeping with Faendryl tradition, I prefer to work with found materials. In this case, I used sea glass collected on the shores and beaches near my residence in Solhaven."}}

Khobra glances between Missoni and an orb of fused sea glass swirled with vert and aquamarine.

Rohese leans forward and rests her chin in her hand, a thoughtful expression on her face.

Rohese gazes thoughtfully at an orb of fused sea glass swirled with vert and aquamarine on a rose-etched silver music stand.

{{blue|Missoni clearly concludes, "I would like to end with a note on display, and a small demonstration."}}

look glass
{{red|Bits of melted sea glass swirl together to create the translucent shell of a hollow globe which rests on a simple stand of driftwood. Deep lazuline gradates to pale celadon amidst ripples of misty grey, the textured surface and blended colors mimicking the eddies of a heaving sea. While not apparent at first glance, several silvery fish are suspended at the center of the orb. They glint with iridescent hues when light filters through the colored glass, casting dancing prisms on nearby surfaces.
There appears to be something written on it.}}

read glass
{{red|In the Common language, it reads:
"The Origin of Fishcakes" by Missoni Sabretache Faendryl - Second Place, 5122 Solhaven Grand Art Exhibit}}

Phanna nods encouragingly.

{{blue|Missoni explains, "Like many glass pieces, baleglass is best displayed near a light source. Light best showcases the structure and color of the glass. If I were the shade the glass..."}}

Khobra nods respectfully.

{{blue|Missoni waves her hand at a small canteen of spring water but nothing seems to happen.}}

{{blue|Missoni pours herself a small canteen of spring water.}}

(Mirkk runs his fingers across Rohese's back, lightly scratching it.)

{{blue|Missoni carefully places a small canteen of spring water on the floor.}}

{{blue|Missoni gazes intently at a small canteen of spring water while appearing to concentrate. Blackness encroaches upon your vision and you notice Missoni's shadow begins to move towards the spring water. The water fades from view as an errant shadow falls into place. Missoni's shadow begins to split into two pieces, one returning to its position near her, and the other isolated where the spring water used to be.}}

Rohese smiles at Mirkk.

Rohese leans back.

Rohese leans on Mirkk, resting her head against his shoulder.

{{blue|Missoni removes an orb of fused sea glass swirled with vert and aquamarine from on a rose-etched silver music stand.}}

(Missoni holds the sphere within the shadow, blocking much of the ambient light from reaching the piece. The glass seems to lose its luster, the colors appearing muted and less vibrant. The sparkling fish at the center disappear in the darkness.)

Phanna gazes with interest at Missoni.

{{blue|Missoni says, "We can see it takes something away from the effect."}}

{{blue|Missoni flicks her hand at an errant shadow and its form begins to unravel...}}

{{blue|The errant shadow begins to waver and unravel before your eyes. Tendrils of black essence spiral off and disappear into nothingness as the an errant shadow begins to slowly sink into the ground. The surface begins to boil rapidly like hot oil before the last remaining fiber of the an errant shadow vanishes.}}

{{blue|Missoni put an orb of fused sea glass swirled with vert and aquamarine on a rose-etched silver music stand.}}

Rohese gazes in amazement at Missoni.

Vaikhen gives a short little hum of surprise.

{{blue|Missoni says, "In contrast, display in a well-lighted room can bring the colors to life and send striking prismatic displays along the walls."}}

{{blue|Missoni says, "One tradition that has been documented from our time in Maelshyve is a sort of light show created when baleglass is illuminated with balefire. Historians suspect the practice originated thanks to the lack of light in the depths of the caverns. But, even now, some museums display pieces in darkened rooms lit solely by balefire."}}

{{blue|Missoni happily says, "The effect can be quite breathtaking."}}

Speaking softly to herself, Rohese murmurs, "Oh my."

Phanna nods in agreement.

Rohese presses a hand to her chest, inhaling and exhaling slowly.

Landrai smiles.

Khobra agrees with Missoni.

{{blue|(Missoni opens her palm to reveal a small sphere of greenish-black flame. She holds the flame behind the sphere, allowing it to illuminate the glass. The sphere immediately takes on the light's lurid cast, the blues and greens dancing like a murky lagoon in the afternoon. Amongst the colors, the silvery fish flash, seeming to almost swim in the flickering light.)}}

Moshari breathes in deeply as she clenches a pipe in her mouth, then exhales slowly, causing some pale amorphous clouds of puffy smoke to float up from her mouth.

Kalyrra grins.

Phanna smiles.

{{blue|Missoni concludes, "Thank you all ever so much for listening." She closes her hand, extinguishing the greenish flame and the dancing light within the sphere. "Please let me know if I may answer any questions."}}

Speaking softly to herself, Rohese murmurs, "Amazing!"

Vaikhen taps a gilded jet clockwork owl's beak, causing it to whir some gears and produce a "hoot!" sound.

Khobra applauds Missoni.

Moshari applauds Missoni.

Vaikhen applauds Missoni.

Kalyrra applauds Missoni.

Rohese beams at Missoni and claps her hands together in delight!

Phanna applauds Missoni.

{{blue|Missoni blushes a nice shade of dark red.}}

Traiva applauds.

Akenna applauds Missoni with enthusiasm, seemingly oblivious to her surroundings.

Raelee takes a moment to observe Missoni.

Mirkk smiles at Rohese.

Arenglae applauds Missoni politely.

{{blue|Missoni curtsies.}}

Mirkk applauds Missoni.

Tabubu applauds.

Hadya applauds politely.

Speaking to Missoni, Phanna says, "That was remarkable! I adored your entry at the last exhibit, and I am excited to finally learn more of how you made it."

Phanna smiles.

Khobra takes a drink from her aged Faendryl rum.
She emits a deep, contented sigh.

{{green|Rohese walks to stand behind a small podium.}}

{{blue|Speaking gratefully to Phanna, Missoni exclaims, "Thank you!"}}

{{green|Rohese softly exclaims, "I think, like me, you are all speechless!"}}

{{blue|Missoni says, "I am hoping to explore the technique more."}}

Dendum raises his hand.

{{green|Rohese softly asks, "We have any questions?"}}

Mirkk nods slowly.

Vaikhen raises his hand.

Phanna raises her hand.

Khobra smirks.

{{blue|Missoni nods at Dendum.}}

Speaking to Missoni, Dendum inquires, ""Does the Faendryl know there are other ways one can heat sand to make the glass that does not involve summoning potentially deadly fire that spreads with desire to consume?"

Landrai smiles.

Speaking to Missoni, Dendum informs, ""Can introduce you to kiln."

Ordim nervously giggles.

{{blue|Missoni gazes in amusement at Dendum.}}

Vaikhen begins chuckling at Dendum!

Mirkk appears to be trying hard not to grin.

{{blue|Speaking to Dendum, Missoni says, "Yes, I am aware."}}

Mirkk surreptitiously glances at Dendum.

Arenglae studies Dendum, giving him an intense consideration.

Landrai softly says, "But how boring."

{{blue|Missoni says, "But one uses what one has."}}

Dendum asks, "Ahh good so this is....choice that is made?"

{{blue|Missoni agrees with Landrai.}}

{{blue|Speaking to Dendum, Missoni says, "Sorcery infuses all parts of our lives. To those with enough control, it is not perceived as deadly at all."}}

{{blue|Missoni adds, "Unless we wish it so."}}

Khobra adopts an agreeable expression.

{{blue|Missoni bites her lip.}}

Khobra takes a drink from her aged Faendryl rum.
She emits a deep, contented sigh.

Khobra smirks at Missoni.

Akenna says, "All fire, if not controlled by a skilled person... can be dangerous. A sorcerer with balefire, I would expect to have a very solid amount of control."

Khobra folds her arms over her chest.

Khobra leans to her left slightly.

{{blue|Missoni nods firmly at Akenna.}}

{{blue|Missoni says, "Just so."}}

Akenna smiles at Missoni.

Moshari breathes in deeply as she clenches a pipe in her mouth, then exhales slowly, causing some pale amorphous clouds of puffy smoke to float up from her mouth.

Speaking curiously to Missoni, Vaikhen asks, "Does one need to take any precautions when touching or holding baleglass? Or is it safe to handle as soon as it cools?"

Rohese cocks her head at Vaikhen.

{{blue|Speaking to Vaikhen, Missoni says, "It is perfectly safe to handle when it cools."}}

Vaikhen nods understandingly.

Akenna raises her hand.

Rohese smiles at Akenna.

Rohese nods at Akenna.

{{blue|Missoni says, "Just like any other glass, really."}}

Mirkk ponders.

Phanna takes a drink from her ice cold lemonade.

{{blue|Missoni asks, "Ah, Phanna, I think, and then Akenna?"}}

Speaking softly to Phanna, Rohese says, "I believe you had a question too."

Rohese nods in agreement at Missoni.

Phanna nods in agreement.

Phanna smiles.

{{blue|Missoni cocks her head at Phanna.}}

Phanna asks, "I know that sorcery, or rather, the Art, at its core emphasizes the comination of both elemental and spiritual spheres. Does drawing more upon one or the other of those two spheres affect how it is used in baleglazing?"

Akenna inquires, "Does the balefire affect the physical compound of the glass in any other way? While it is beautiful, I suppose I'd like to know on a component level?"

Akenna's cheeks flush with a soft pale rose shade, darkening her freckles even more.

You raise your hand.

Akenna bashfully apologizes, "Sorry."

Phanna smiles at Akenna.

Speaking to Akenna, Phanna says, "It's so fascinating. I think we all have lots of questions."

Speaking reassuringly to Akenna, Rohese says, "Perfectly fine, so much interest in today's topic."

Vaikhen quietly jokes, "Their questions were far more intellectual than mine."

Vaikhen grins sheepishly.

Rohese giggles softly at Vaikhen.

{{blue|Speaking to Phanna, Missoni says, "Drawing too heavily on the elemental side would impact the color of the flame, perhaps producing a less vibrant green, which might affect display."}}

Speaking softly to Vaikhen, Rohese assures, "All questions are valid and of interest!"

Phanna nods slowly at Missoni.

Vaikhen flushes slightly, some color reaching his cheeks.

{{blue|Missoni says, "But melting the glass would function similarly as with a more elemental form of fire."}}

Phanna nods understandingly.

{{blue|Speaking to Akenna, Missoni says, "It does make the glass more liquid than the traditional method, which requires the compound to be a bit more stable. I have seen glassworkers hold the glass aloft on a sort of bowl of fire so as not so spill the molten liquid."}}

Moshari breathes in deeply as she clenches a pipe in her mouth, then exhales slowly, causing some pale amorphous clouds of puffy smoke to float up from her mouth.

Rohese nods slowly at Missoni.

Akenna nods slowly.

Speaking softly to Missoni, Rohese exclaims, "That leads to my question but I believe Arianiss had one first!"

Rohese nods encouragingly to you.

You ask, "What happens if you baleglaze without control?"

{{blue|Missoni says, "But, that is what allows for more mixing of colors."}}

Mirkk smiles.

Vaikhen glances at you.

Vaikhen's face turns slightly pale.

Speaking amusedly to you, Rohese says, "We are of a similar mind, I see."

{{blue|Speaking to you, Missoni says, "Well, I expect one could start quite a conflagration."}}

{{blue|Missoni frets.}}

Rohese bites her lip.

Khobra cringes.

You ask, "..but I mean.. what type of work will it produce?"

Mirkk frowns.

You ask, "Or just destroys it?"

{{blue|Missoni says, "There have been incidents of sorcerers, ah, splashing themselves with glass, which is quite an unpleasant effect."}}

Mirkk blinks.

Hadya quietly says, "I would imagine something is getting destroyed... person or glass."

A pained expression crosses Rohese's face as she grimaces at Missoni.

Mirkk asks, "Splashing?"

{{blue|Missoni says, "But the end result can also be rather pretty, unformed as it it is."}}

Speaking incredulously to Missoni, Mirkk asks, "LIke, molten glass?"

Khobra agrees with Hadya.

{{blue|Missoni nods at Mirkk.}}

Phanna says, "That sounds quite painful."

Mirkk shudders.

Meril quietly says, "Well, and I would guess that drawing too much on spiritual power is to submit to the will of the flame, rather than command it as sorcerers are wont to. It would allow the power behind the flame to shape it to its will, rather than the sorcerer's."

Rohese agrees with Phanna.

Vaikhen stares into space, appearing to ponder multiple possibilities and potential nuances.

Phanna takes a drink from her ice cold lemonade.

Speaking softly to Meril, Rohese says, "I imagine that would lead to some rather interesting pieces."

Moshari breathes in deeply as she clenches a pipe in her mouth, then exhales slowly, causing some pale amorphous clouds of puffy smoke to float up from her mouth.

Phanna nods in agreement.

{{blue|Speaking to Meril, Missoni says, "Fire spirits can be rather tempermental."}}

{{blue|A pained expression crosses Missoni's face.}}

Meril nods slowly.

{{blue|Missoni muses, "If anyone recalls the Fier'dracus."}}

{{blue|Missoni says, "But that is a bit outside of glass work."}}

Akenna says, "I've always found the element itself to be eager to please and desirous of the approval of it Mistress."

Akenna looks thoughtful for a moment, then shrugs.

Rohese smiles at Akenna.

{{blue|Speaking to Akenna, Missoni says, "Ah, well you have mastered it."}}

Speaking haltingly to Akenna, Vaikhen says, "That-- well, um. That might just ... might just be you."

Akenna's cheeks flush with a soft pale rose shade, darkening her freckles even more.

Vaikhen grins sheepishly.

Speaking diplomatically to Missoni, Rohese inquires, "Have you found yourself at the mercy of such a spirit and suffered injury at all?"

Phanna laughs softly, trying to hide her amusement.

{{blue|Speaking to you, Missoni says, "There are glassworkers who purposely splash their pieces, though, to answer a bit more."}}

Rohese giggles softly at Vaikhen.

Speaking to Vaikhen, Akenna says, "The worst element to work with in my opinion is lightning... it is difficult to direct and wants to do what it wants."

{{blue|Speaking to Rohese, Missoni exclaims, "Fortunately not!"}}

Rohese lets out a sigh of relief for Missoni.

Vaikhen ponders.

Speaking softly to Missoni, Rohese says, "Long may it continue."

{{blue|Missoni amusedly says, "I have merely gotten quite sweaty."}}

Mirkk quietly says, "But fire consumes."

Rohese laughs softly, trying to hide her amusement.

{{blue|Missoni agrees with Rohese.}}

Arenglae nods faintly at Akenna.

Speaking to Missoni, Phanna exclaims, "The horror!"

Phanna laughs softly, trying to hide her amusement.

Vaikhen nods understandingly at Akenna.

Phanna winks at Missoni.

{{blue|Missoni grins at Phanna.}}

{{blue|Missoni fans herself.}}

{{green|Rohese softly asks, "Do we have anymore questions?"}}

{{green|Rohese glances around the room.}}

{{green|Rohese smiles.}}

{{green|Rohese nods once.}}

{{blue|Missoni casually observes her surroundings.}}

Phanna says, "This has been very enlightening. Thank you for sharing the art of baleglazing."

Phanna smiles at Missoni.

{{green|Rohese appreciatively concludes, "Then I am sure you will all join me in thanking our wonderful speaker for sharing her fascinating insights into baleglass."}}

{{blue|Missoni nods gratefully.}}

Dendum applauds politely.

Vaikhen turns to Missoni and cheers!

Meril applauds Missoni.

Phanna applauds.

{{green|Rohese applauds Missoni with enthusiasm, seemingly oblivious to her surroundings.}}

Vaikhen whistles at Missoni!

Tabubu applauds.

Speaking to Missoni, Akenna exclaims, "It was so interesting!"

Landrai applauds.

Ordim applauds.

{{blue|Missoni happily says, "Thank you for allowing me to share."}}

Kalyrra applauds Missoni.

Akenna flashes a wide grin.

Avawren applauds Missoni.

Kalyrra grins.

Landrai softly says, "Well done, such an interesting idea."

Akenna applauds Missoni.

{{green|Speaking softly to Missoni, Rohese exclaims, "Truly fascinating, thank you!"}}

Arenglae applauds politely.

{{blue|Missoni bows.}}

Hadya quietly says, "It was an interesting topic, yes."

Mirkk adopts an agreeable expression.

Dendum says, "Hrmm."

{{green|Rohese gratefully exclaims, "Thank you all so much for coming and I hope to see you all again next month!"}}
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[[Category:Logs]]
[[Category:Mist Harbor library lectures]]

Mist Harbor Library Lectures - 2021-01-17 - Katillios on Choice (log)

2023-04-04T09:01:18Z

WINTERDAWN:

The following was the fourth lecture in the Mist Harbor Library Lecture series, where [[Katillios]] was the guest speaker, which was given on 1/17/5121. The topics must be lore based but otherwise are at the discretion of the invited speaker. This lecture is on the nature of Choice. This log is for the purpose of posterity and is presented without bias. It has also been edited to be easier to read while attempting to retain an informative flow.

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[Library, Meeting Hall]
A trio of wide stairs lead down from a wide archway into this brightly lit room. A small podium stands atop a small dais opposite the archway, and several cushioned benches have been arranged throughout the space, each offering an excellent line of sight. A number of elliptical windows line the walls of the hall, and a rich crimson-patterned carpet covers the entirety of the floor underfoot. You also see a small table with some stuff on it.
Also here: Lord Kothos, Yardie, Dalinsia, Lady Landrai who is sitting, Teaberry who is sitting, Holly, Loremaster Rohese, Magister Raelee who is sitting, Master Porfidat, Avaia, Katillios, Chatelaine Traiva who is sitting, Meril, Xorus, Akenna who is sitting, Barrister Faerinn, Tabubu who is kneeling, Mister Kibosen, Alisaire, Grelana who is sitting
Obvious exits: none

Speaking softly to you, Rohese says, "Welcome to the Mist Harbor Library."

Rohese glances around the room.

Rohese walks to stand behind a small podium.

Rohese sharply claps her hands together twice, calling for attention.

Rohese smiles.

Katillios turns to face Rohese.

Rohese graciously greets, "Good afternoon and welcome to the fourth in our lecture series."

Rohese lightly explains, "As I'm sure you are all aware by now, the aim of this series is to provide a platform for imparting knowledge and encouraging discussion."

Rohese gently reminds, "I ask that everyone be considerate to our speaker as well as those who comment or ask questions."

Rohese softly continues, "All opinions are welcome and encouraged, as long as they are courteously expressed."

Rohese glances around the room.

Rohese smiles.

Rohese warmly says, "I was delighted to receive a proposal from today's speaker and even more delighted to invite her to join us this afternoon."

Rohese glances appreciatively at Katillios.

Katillios makes her way to the front of the Hall, her footsteps silent and her gaze firmly on the floor.

You see Katillios Esh'Na'Vellus.
She appears to be a Half-Elf from Ta'Nalfein.
She is small of stature and has a petite frame. She appears to be mature. She has wide cerulean eyes and ruddy skin. She has flowing, glossy jet black hair pinned close to the top of her head with an intricate series of polished ivory clamps. She has a gentle face, a delicate nose and a small scar at the corner of her full lips. She has golden wire threaded back and forth all through the outside of both ears, forming a series of sequentially smaller gleaming hoops.
She is in good shape.
She is wearing a brilliant white tunic with alternating aquamarine and onyx buttons, a black velvet pouch with aquamarine beads at its seams, some elegant black breeches tailored to lie close to the skin, and some knee-high sleek leather boots.

Rohese delightedly introduces, "Please give Katillios Esh'Na'Vellus a warm Library welcome."

Rohese beams at Katillios and claps her hands together in delight!

Rohese strides a few steps backward.

Rohese selects a spot on one of the cushioned benches and settles into its soft cushions.

Rohese folds her hands in her lap.

Katillios kneels in a fluid motion, then crosses her hands and uses the back of them to shield her eyes in a ritualistic fashion before rising to her feet once more.

Katillios simply begins, "This one thanks you most humbly for the opportunity to speak to such an august gathering."

Katillios peers around the room, her eyes gleaming with barely-contained fervor.

Katillios melodically says, "This one has asked to speak today on the most important topic in existence. It is an unassailable notion that the topic of choice is paramount above all others. To Choose. The act of making a Choice."

Katillios melodically continues, "Each of you makes choices every minute of your lives, but you do so without care or analysis. You do so without awareness or education. You live your lives charging recklessly from one choice to the next without any care for the repercussions that your choices will have on yourself, or those around you."

Katillios lowers her voice somewhat and glances down at her hands.

Katillios quietly says, "This one is all too familiar with the consequences of unconsidered choices."

Katillios closes her eyes and shakes her head slightly, her voice returning to its melodic timbre.

Katillios melodically says, "With your indulgence, this one shall tell a small portion of her story, to illustrate her own missteps, and the consequences thereof."

Katillios kneels, drawing her skirts close around her knees, clearly comfortable in the pose, and gently clasps her hands.

Katillios moves to a kneeling position.

Katillios melodically says, "This one was born to wealth and privelege on a private estate. This one never wanted for anything, and was doted on by everyone she came into contact with."

Katillios melodically says, "Whenever this one would cry out, any within earshot would rush to provide any manner of diversions or comforts."

Katillios smiles softly, her eyes distant.

Katillios melodically says, "This one had no concept of choice. She lived on instinct, seeking instant gratification whenever the childish urges struck her."

Katillios softly says, "Until the raiders came."

Katillios takes a steadying breath, squaring her shoulders.

Katillios melodically intones, "The raiders came with thirsty blades in the dead of night, and those blades drank their fill in the bellies of her family. This one was a mere girl at the time, but she watched as entrails were spilled in each direction by wild beasts posing as intelligent creatures."

Katillios pauses for a long moment, completely still, her face an expressionless mask, then slowly closes her eyes and takes a slow breath before continuing.

Katillios melodically admits, "This one was old enough that the memories are still fresh, and she is quite sure they shall never fade."

Katillios smiles suddenly, her eyes coming alight with emotion.

Katillios melodically exclaims, "And this one is so grateful for that fact. That pain... that fear... were but the first lesson in a lifetime filled with them. In that moment, this one made a Choice!"

Katillios simply says, "This one chose to fight."

Katillios smirks slightly, and shakes her head in wonder.

Katillios melodically continues, "This one picked up a sword from a fallen family member and, with clumsy hands, attempted to rush one of the raiders. The raider, naturally, laughed uproariously, batted aside her sword, and turned his full attentions on her."

Katillios neutrally continues, "The sordid recounting of the consequences of that Choice are not appropriate to a place such as this."

Katillios grins widely around at the gathered listeners.

Katillios melodically proclaims, "Doubtless those as wise as yourselves have already gleaned the lesson in this portion of the tale. It was this one's Choice to take up that sword! For that reason, the consequences belong solely to her!"

Katillios smooths out a fold in her skirt, marshaling her thoughts.

Katillios softly says, "Allow this one to pause the narrative for a moment."

Katillios softly asks, "What use is it to blame a thing for following its nature?"

Katillios softly asks, "What use to curse the rain for falling?"

Katillios softly asks, "If one gets soaked from the rain, is it not that one's blame to bear for not making other arrangements? Perhaps they could have chosen a hooded cloak, or delayed their errand?"

Katillios melodically proclaims, "Their Choice is what led to their soaking, and all expect them to bear that burden. All of life is the same as this."

Katillios melodically continues, "This one made a terrible choice. It could be argued that she was unaware that she even had a choice, or perhaps even that all her choices were terrible."

Katillios simply says, "It matters not. The Choice was made, and she bears the responsibility for the consequences of her actions."

Katillios glances at a few skeptical faces and smiles all the wider.

Katillios melodically says, "Allow this one to continue their story, and we shall perhaps learn a different sort of lesson."

Katillios melodically says, "After a time, a new form entered the estate, and the raiders prostrated themselves before him. More mighty of a being this one had never seen nor heard tell of, and she quailed at the thought of what fresh horrors might be forthcoming."

Katillios melodically says, "In the time of her troubles, however, this one had grown precipitously in wisdom, and thus was able to make another Choice, but this time her Choice was carefully measured and considered."

Katillios simply says, "This one threw themselves at the foot of the mighty being and begged for mercy, swearing herself to a lifetime of servitude if only she would be spared."

Katillios blinks back tears, her eyes shining.

Katillios quietly says, "The Warlord, for such he was and is, laughed. He laughed long and hard, and made comments to the raiders in a tongue this one did not understand, and the laughter abounded from every corner. But when the laughter subsided, the Warlord threw this one over one shoulder with ease and carried her away, unharmed."

Katillios melodically says, "Once more, allow this one to pause the narrative and point out the gravity of these actions. This one, though still at a tender, spoiled age, had the wherewithal and mental faculties to consider her possible courses of action, and to make a considered Choice. And this time... this one chose correctly."

Katillios crosses her hands and uses the back of them to shield her eyes in a ritualistic fashion before rising to her feet once more.

Katillios stands up.

Katillios melodically announces, "It is incumbent upon all beings who would claim to be possessing of both intelligence and free will to take responsibility for both their Choices and the repercussions of the same."

Katillios melodically continues, "Allow this one to present a hypothetical example: Imagine a young man sent on a mission against their will, leveraged into the situation by extreme coersion. They are told in no uncertain terms that horrible things will happen should they fail in their mission. All can imagine this scenario, yes?"

Katillios melodically says, "In this moment, the Choice lies solely with the young man. It is his duty, and his privelege, to consider his choices clearly, and then make a Choice with his eyes wide open, and accept what consequences may arise from said Choice."

Katillios melodically continues, "Perhaps this young man will Choose to betray his masters, and reveal his mission. That is entirely up to him, but it is critical that he first consider the repercussions of that Choice. He has already been clearly told what might happen, after all. Should he doubt that those giving the orders would live up to their end of the bargain?"

Katillios melodically continues, "In order to make that Choice, he must consider what he knows of those giving the orders and attempt to balance the scales. What is more likely? Will the consequences be as initially stated? Could they perhaps even be worse?"

Katillios softly says, "For our purposes here today... it matters not."

Katillios melodically says, "What is important is the concept of Choice. Regardless of your personal situation, you have Choice, at all times. And it is your solemn duty to remain cognizant of that fact, and take measured steps with the full knowledge that the results of those Choices lie solely upon your heads."

Katillios melodically says, "Allow this one to humbly restate this important facet: The universe gives us no assurances that there is always a 'right' Choice. Or even a 'good' Choice. But there is always Choice."

Katillios melodically says, "Another angle to consider: Refusing to make a Choice does not allow one to abrogate their culpability for the results of their refusal."

Katillios melodically says, "One final method of looking at this most critical of subjects: One must take care to resist the urge to look back at their history and wish longingly that things had turned out differently. Each of you is required to take ownership of your lives in this way. Where you are today is solely the result of your Choices. Own those Choices, and the repercussions of them! The young man from the example... his Choices led him to this moment! Weep not for him."

Katillios softly says, "Or for this one. This one made her Choices, and those Choices have led her to a life of joyful service in the sacred embrace of that same Warlord. This one made the wisest Choice of her life, and lives with the wonderful reality of it with every heartbeat."

Katillios melodically says, "This one thanks you for your attention, and humbly asks that you overlook the poor oration and presentation used to deliver this lecture. This one would be most pleased to answer any questions, should there be any."

Katillios curtsies low, her eyes on the floor.

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Dalinsia curiously asks, "Who is the Warlord?"

Akenna asks, "Who is this Warlord and where is he currently?"

Katillios softly says, "The Warlord's name is not to be spoken by this one's lips. He is a mighty being, in possession of both skill and magic beyond this one's understanding."

Dalinsia says, "That seems vague an evasive."

Speaking carefully to Katillios, Akenna asks, "And where is he now?"

Speaking to Katillios, Teaberry asks, "Why didn't you just kill the Warlord while he was sleeping and then run away? A dagger, a spell, and then run for parts unknown?"

Katillios blinks at Teaberry.

Teaberry peers quizzically at Katillios.

Katillios hides a smirk behind a careful hand.

Teaberry says, "It's just sense."

Speaking softly to Teaberry, Katillios says, "Such a thing is quite impossible, this one can assure you."

Speaking to Katillios, Teaberry asks, "Why is it impossible?"

Faerinn asks, "Is this the part where we pledge allegiance and you spare us or...?"

Speaking softly to Teaberry, Katillios says, "Spells, poisons, and blades alike cannot reach him, regardless of his level of alertness."

Katillios shrugs at Teaberry.

Katillios blinks at Faerinn.

Speaking to Katillios, Teaberry asks, "Why can't they affect him?"

Speaking softly to Faerinn, Katillios says, "This one comes before you only to share her experiences. Your choices are, and always remain, your own."

Speaking politely to Katillios, Akenna says, "I believe my question goes unanswered miss."

Akenna smiles at Katillios.

Speaking softly to Akenna, Katillios asks, "This one apologizes. She is unused to speaking amongst so many. What was your question?"

Speaking to Katillios, Akenna asks, "Where is your Warlord?"

Speaking softly to Akenna, Katillios says, "When last this one was in his sacred presence, he was on the open seas, considering his next destination. This one is unaware if that choice has been made or not."

Akenna nods at Katillios.

Katillios turns to face Holly.

Akenna says, "Thank you for answering, miss. I appreciate it."

Holly asks, "Is this warlord of Krolvin make and form?"

Katillios looks thoughtfully at Holly.

Speaking softly to Holly, Katillios says, "He may once have been, but he has risen far beyond any simple label of race."

Speaking to Katillios, Holly says, "You mentioned masquerading as beast versus intelligence."

Holly takes a moment to observe Katillios.

Holly says, "Very well then."

Katillios turns to face you.

You smile at Katillios.

You take a drink from your ice cold lemonade.

Speaking softly to you, Katillios says, "This one would be well pleased to address your question."

You ask, "First, I empathize with you over the loss of your family in such a way. No, unfortunately, the pain will never fade completely, and yes, you are correct about the choices one makes in a moment like that having various consequences. My question to you is, what do you do when you're paralyzed by Choice?"

Katillios smiles at you.

Speaking softly to you, Katillios says, "A wise question, indeed."

Speaking softly to you, Katillios says, "It is incumbent upon each to realize all aspects of the choices before them. One of these is the notion of time. To take too long to make a choice can mean that avenues are taken from their grasp."

Speaking softly to you, Katillios says, "It is often impossible to consider all aspects in the time given... however this in no way limits the responsibility for the consequences of those actions... or inactions."

Katillios turns to face Rohese.

You smile at Katillios.

Rohese smiles at Katillios.

Speaking politely to Katillios, Rohese inquires, "Speaking of consequences for actions regarding your first choice, were there subsequent repercussions for the raider that ... turned his attentions on you?"

Speaking softly to Katillios, Rohese adds, "If not, do you believe there should have been?"

Katillios ponders.

Rohese inclines her head.

Speaking softly to Rohese, Katillios says, "This one believes that the particular raider who was so ill-advisedly attacked was acting according to its nature, and therefore should bear no blame from her for her choice."

Rohese bites her lip.

Speaking softly to Rohese, Katillios says, "However, it made its own choices in reacting as it did, and there may be others who will provide repercussions for that."

Rohese nods slowly.

Rohese shakes her head, totally at a loss.

Rohese glances away.

Speaking softly to Rohese, Katillios says, "This one is unaware if such a thing occurred, but it is not for her to cast blame on a thing for acting as it must."

Katillios turns to face Meril.

Meril nods.

Speaking to Katillios, Meril says, "I wished to ask another question, of the choices made in the raid."

Speaking softly to Meril, Katillios says, "This one would be pleased to answer, if she may."

Meril asks, "In the end, you said that the woman had made the correct choice. How came it to be that she *knows* this?"

Speaking softly to Meril, Katillios says, "One cannot truly know, this one supposes. However, the peace and joy filling her days are a mark that she chooses to interpret as a sign of her correct Choice."

Meril asks, "Is it happiness then that is the last judgement of right and wrong?"

Speaking simply to Meril, Katillios says, "For this one, yes. For others, she cannot judge."

Meril nods.

Meril says, "Thank you for the answer."

Meril clasps her hands in a reverent gesture.

Katillios turns to face Traiva.

Speaking boredly to Katillios, Traiva says, "As lovely as your story about the raiders were, for illustration, I have a thought that is more general in nature.."

Speaking softly to Traiva, Katillios says, "This one would be pleased to answer if she may."

Speaking to Katillios, Traiva continues, "What of those who have choice taken from them? Such as when I use magic skill to direct, say, a puma to attack its mate?"

Traiva says, "Or a bandit, even, to bring the choice to something we recognize as having more complex decision making skill.."

Speaking in Aelotian, Traiva darkly murmurs something you don't understand.

Traiva folds her wings across her back.

Speaking softly to Traiva, Katillios says, "This one fears you are getting caught up in semantics to a degree. The puma whose will has been subsumed must bear no blame for its actions, but blame is far from the only consequence of them. In this instance, if the mate were stronger by far, and the controlled puma were to perish, that would be a consequence that they bore without blame. The blame in that instance would fall upon you, this one feels."

Katillios softly says, "But the consequence would remain nonetheless, of course."

Speaking to Katillios, Traiva says, "My other example, then."

Speaking softly to Traiva, Katillios asks, "You speak of a bandit whose will has been subsumed?"

Traiva evenly says, "And my apologies, I reverted to my native tongue for a last..."

Speaking to Katillios, Traiva says, "Let me give you one better."

Katillios nods at Traiva.

Speaking evenly to Katillios, Traiva asks, "What of when an Overseer, those who enslaved the Aelotoi on Bre'naere, would intrude on our thoughts with scramble that we had no ability to think straight. What of our choices then, and does the Aelotoi deserve repercussions for that which she cannot control?"

Speaking softly to Traiva, Katillios says, "One whose will has been subsumed in this fashion must bear no guilt or blame for their actions while thusly subdued. They are unable to Choose for themselves, and the consequences of those Choices, in a perfect universe, would fall upon those who took that Choice away."

Speaking to Katillios, Traiva argues, "But things are not perfect. Far from, in fact."

Speaking softly to Traiva, Katillios says, "We must consider what could be, then strive to apply it to what is."

Traiva asks, "Should not Rohese have right to take action against me if I, in such a state, were to attack her?"

Speaking quietly to Traiva, Tabubu asks, "Wouldn't that be her choice?"

Speaking to Tabubu, Traiva says, "Based on what I have heard, Rohese should turn against the Overseer that put me in such state, as my nature is to not attack my friends."

Traiva glowers.

Tabubu quietly asks, "Should ? Or has choosen to?"

Speaking to Tabubu, Traiva says, "In the example I present, choice has been taken away."

Speaking softly to Traiva, Katillios says, "We speak of blame, not actions. Who is at fault for your actions in this supposition? Extenuating circumstances shall of course arise in any situation, but speaking solely as to the issue of blame, if you were unable to Choose, then that Choice, and the blame rendered by it, should not be yours."

Speaking to Katillios, Traiva argues, "But choices have consequences. Who should then bear the brunt of the consequence?"

Speaking softly to Traiva, Katillios says, "As you say, this is an imperfect world. Consequences do not fall where they ought, more often than not."

Traiva passionately says, "You cannot talk about choice without talking about consequence. To do so is to leave off the other side and give an incomplete presentation."

Speaking softly to Katillios, Rohese apologizes, "Allow me to press the point a little further, if you wouldn't mind. Can you honestly say that you do not regret your original choice because of its consequences?"

Rohese agrees with Traiva.

Traiva takes a deep breath.

Traiva slowly empties her lungs.

Rohese softly says, "The two are interconnected, surely."

Traiva quietly states, "And I shall still my tongue now, to give others their fair chance."

Rohese stands up.

Speaking softly to Rohese, Katillios says, "This one chooses to reframe that instance, which could have remained as a fester on her soul to this day, as a moment of elightenment. If this one had chosen differently, who knows where she would have ended up? This one feels quite certain that she would not feel a fraction of the happiness that consumes her if that had come to pass."

Rohese glances at Katillios and babbles, apparently unable to form a coherent thought.

Speaking softly to Rohese, Katillios asks, "If you were forced to walk through a fire barefoot, but on the other side was more happiness than you thought possible, would you regret having done so?"

Speaking softly to Katillios, Rohese says, "I shall personally leave that question unanswered and allow others to ponder it."

Rohese smiles at Katillios.

Katillios nods understandingly at Rohese.

Rohese glances around the room.

Faerinn asks, "So by your use of the passive voice in your own history, my guess is you only consider yourself to have made two choices in life. Is this the pitch you bring us to lay down our own choices to the nature of your cult leader?"

Katillios softly says, "This one fears that her time draws short... perhaps one question, or possibly two, before she must depart."

Speaking softly to Faerinn, Katillios says, "He would likely slaughter you if you tried, this one fears. He seeks not to draw others to him. He is content to exist, and do as he wills."

Speaking to Katillios, Faerinn asks, "I see, then why send you as his herald to spread his philosophy?"

Rohese softly asks, "You had a final question for Katillios?"

Speaking softly to Faerinn, Katillios says, "This one made her own choice to come. He has no knowledge of her presence here today."

Rohese smiles at Dalinsia.

Dalinsia smiles.

Dalinsia says, "Yes, thank you."

Katillios turns to face Dalinsia.

Speaking to Katillios, Dalinsia asks, "There was another person you talked about in your lecture, a man who had to choose to follow terrible directions or face terrible consequences if he returned without carrying them out. Who is that man?"

Katillios smirks slightly, covering the movement with a polite cough.

Speaking softly to Dalinsia, Katillios says, "That was purely a hypothetical. There is no such man."

Dalinsia asks, "Are you sure?"

Rohese smiles.

Rohese glances around the room.

Speaking softly to Dalinsia, Katillios says, "This one is unsure what you mean by that. The example given was entirely a fabrication."

Speaking to Katillios, Dalinsia says, "Thank you."

Rohese softly says, "I am sure you will all join me in thanking our speaker for such a fascinating insight into the subject of choices."

Rohese smiles at Katillios.

Yardie smiles at Katillios.

Grelana smiles at Katillios.

Speaking carefully to Katillios, Rohese says, "You have given us much to think about it."

Grelana applauds politely.

Meril applauds politely.

Katillios softly says, "This one thanks you most humbly for allowing her to speak this afternoon."

Speaking to Katillios, you say, "It was a pleasure and I hope you visit again."

Speaking appreciatively to Katillios, Akenna says, "Thank you for coming."

Rohese applauds Katillios politely.

Dalinsia applauds politely.

Katillios curtsies low, her eyes downcast.

Akenna applauds politely.

Alisaire nods at Katillios.

Rohese softly says, "And thank you all so much for coming."

Rohese smiles.

Katillios softly says, "This one wishes you well, and hopes that you find your happiness wherever it may lay."

Speaking to Rohese, Traiva says, "Thank you for organizing these."

Grelana smiles at Rohese.

You smile at Katillios.

Katillios quietly slips out the archway.

Speaking softly to Traiva, Rohese says, "Of course, it is my pleasure, as always."

Speaking to Rohese, Faerinn says, "Thank you for having us."

Rohese gazes thoughtfully at a wide archway.

Dalinsia says, "Thank you for the lecture."

Speaking quietly to Rohese, Grelana says, "Thank you once again."

Rohese bows her head slightly toward Grelana as she drops into a deep, respectful curtsy before her.
</pre>

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[[Category:Mist Harbor library lectures]]
[[Category:Inevitable]]

Sanctify (330)

2023-04-04T03:40:36Z

WINTERDAWN: /* Incomplete List of Omnishrines */ Rone Academy is not actually publicly accessible

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| subtype = Combat Gear Enhancement
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| availability = all combat gear
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After gaining the ability to cast '''Sanctify''', a cleric will begin to acquire devotion as they gain [[experience]]. A skilled cleric can use this devotion to permanently enhance combat armaments for use against the [[undead]]. This enhancement provides both offensive and defensive benefits, and can even be further bestowed with Holy Fire flares. [[F2P subscription | F2P]] clerics cannot modify items with 330.

== Armament Enhancements ==

Undead possess a natural 25% damage resistance to physical attacks, as well as a +25 bonus to defending against [[:Category:Player System Manager | PSM skills]]. Each tier of Sanctify on relevant offensive combat gear negates 20% of these defenses, removing them completely at the fifth tier (T5).

Further, sanctified items gain the following benefits when combating the undead (and only the undead):

'''Weapons'''

* Melee and ranged weapons gain a bonus of 2 AS per tier.
* Runestaves gain a bonus of 2 bolt AS and 1.2 CS per tier.
* Each tier also has a 20% chance to [[anchor]] non-corporeal undead when defeated.

'''Defensive Gear'''

* Targets wielding a sanctified shield or torso armor gain a bonus, per tier, of 2 DS, 1.2 TD, and +1 effective level against [[sheer fear]].
* Targets wielding a sanctified runestaff gain a bonus, per tier, of 1 DS, 0.6 TD, and +0.5 effective level against sheer fear.
* Runestaff and shield bonuses stack with torso armor, but not with each other.

'''Holy Fire Flares'''

* A cleric with at least 100 ranks of [[Spiritual Lore, Blessings]] can spend 200,000 devotion to attempt to bestow permanent Holy Fire flares to a T5 sanctified armament.
* Holy Fire flares, in addition to a standard heat critical, will deal a random 50 to 100 concussion damage. The concussion damage is capped at {{mono|(30 + (creature level / 5))%}} of the target’s total health.
** example: a level 40 target the concussion damage would be capped at {{mono|(30 + (40 / 5)) = 38%}} of their max health.

'''Cleric-Only Effects'''

* An innate cleric bonus to these flares is that the concussion damage is instead 75 to 125.
* Clerics can {{boldmono|EVOKE 330}} at items to temporarily grant them Holy Fire flares and non-corporeal undead anchoring. This enhancement functions for clerics only, does not apply any of the other 330 benefits, and lasts for 4 hours. A higher level cleric can EVOKE items for a lower level cleric to grant them these temporary benefits, except that the Holy Fire flares will not have the Cleric-only bonus damage.
* At 90 and 180 ranks of [[Spiritual Lore, Religion]] clerics gain an extra charge of a Holy Fire flare that is guaranteed to trigger on their next attack.

== Skill Formula ==

* [[Level]]: +1 per level
* [[Cleric Base|Cleric Spell Ranks]]: +2 per rank up to level, +1 per rank above level ("up to level" is based on 1x spell training and thus a level 50 cleric with 100 ranks will have 52 ranks at +2 and 48 ranks at +1)
* [[Wisdom]]: +1 per stat bonus
* [[Influence]]: +1 per stat bonus
* [[Spiritual Mana Control]]: +1 per 2 ranks
* [[Magic Item Use]]: +1 per 10 ranks
* [[Arcane Symbols]]: +1 per 10 ranks
* Shrine Bonus: +20 for matching [[CONVERT (verb)|{{boldmono|CONVERT}}]] exactly, +10 for same {{boldmono|CONVERT}} pantheon (bonuses do not stack)
* Being wounded and not at maximum spirit will hinder sanctification attempts

=== Shrine Bonus ===

[[Holy places]] that show through [[SENSE (verb)|{{boldmono|SENSE}}]] a deity that you are converted to will give a +20 bonus. If you are not converted to that deity, but are in the same pantheon (Liabo, Lornon, and Neutral) it will give a +10 bonus.

Holy places that show multiple deities will not give the +20 deity bonus, but instead the +10 pantheon bonus. An example of this would be if you were converted to Lorminstra, and in a location that senses as "Lorminstra, Imaera, Phoen, and Oleani."

An omnishrine, a location that senses as having the "harmonized presence of multiple deities' influence," will give the +20 deity bonus to all clerics, regardless of deity selection (including other, forsaken, and not yet converted).

A location that senses as having the "influence of an indiscernible higher power" is an unknown, but specific deity in the Neutral pantheon. A forsaken cleric received a +10 bonus while a Lorminstra cleric received +0.

=== Incomplete List of Omnishrines ===

'''[[Icemule Trace]]'''
*Icemule Temple, Foyer - 2334, 4047001
*Icemule Temple, Chancel Nexus - 2336, 4047005
*Hall of the Holy Struggle - 2341, 4047024

'''[[Wehnimer's Landing]]'''

*[[House Sovyn]], Paladin's Lounge - 14617, 210010 (publicly accessible)
*[[House Sylvanfair]], Temple - 21339, 211016 (not publicly accessible)
*[[Rone Academy]], Cathedral - 24484, 217033 (not publicly accessible)

'''[[Zul Logoth]]'''

*[[DragonSpine Fane]], Altar Chamber - 26068, 679031 (all 3 obelisk Chambers are also omnishrines)

== Devotion Costs and Gear Difficulty Modifiers ==

=== Devotion Costs ===

* Tier 1: 50k
* Tier 2: 75k
* Tier 3: 100k
* Tier 4: 125k
* Tier 5: 150k
* Holy Fire: 200k
* A failed Sanctify cast consumes 10% of the devotion necessary to perform that task.

=== Difficulty Penalty Modifiers ===

* Your current skill will be evaluated against the base difficulty provided by a Bard Loresong '''plus''' the difficulty penalty modifier.
* Every tier of Sanctify S1 to S5 has a difficulty penalty modifier of -20.
* Holy Fire flares has a difficulty penalty modifier of -50.

* (Example: an item that has a difficulty of -500 will actually be -520 when you cast 330 on it because of the difficulty penalty modifier).

==== Material Gear Difficulty Modifiers ====

* [[Eonake]], [[white ora]], [[faewood]], and [[white alloy]] all have a bonus of +50 to the success roll. This bonus is not shown in the gear difficulty score.

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==== Script Gear Difficulty Modifiers ====

* [[Voln armor]] gets a bonus of +50 to the success roll. This bonus is not shown in the gear difficulty score. Of note is that this bonus is an added +50 and does not function like [[Elven Armor]].

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==== Other Gear Difficulty Modifiers ====

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=== Special Properties ===

Applying Sanctify to gear requires a potion if the item has [[Enhancive item | Enhancive]] or [[Ensorcell | Ensorcelled]] properties, which also factor into the item's difficulty rating:

* Enhancive gear requires an [[urven'eth potion]].
* Ensorcelled gear requires an [[inky black potion]].

Other Services:
* Ensorcelling sanctified gear requires an inky black potion.

== Sanctification Process ==

{{boldmono|CAST <object>}} will provide a descriptive estimate of sanctification difficulty as well as the number of times the object has been sanctified. A bard [[loresinging]] the object can tell you the exact difficulty.

{{boldmono|CHANNEL <object>}} will perform the permanent application.

* Step 1: Make sure you have the necessary devotion stored up using the {{boldmono|RESOURCE}} verb.
* Step 2: Make sure you have the necessary bonuses to successfully perform the sanctification.
* Step 3: Apply any [[Sanctify_(330)#Special_Properties|potions]] required.
* Step 4: {{boldmono|CHANNEL <object>}} to profit.

=== Messaging ===

Sanctification assessment:

<pre{{log2}}>You gesture at some faded leather hiking boots with fur-lined cuffs.
You sense that the leather hiking boots has already been permanently sanctified 2 times and that you can only fail if you are horribly unlucky.</pre>

Successful sanctification:

<pre{{log2}}>You channel at a pair of crimson-stained vultite-edged handwraps.
Reaching within yourself, you summon up your devotion and call upon your connection to Marlu. In response, a diffuse flat black glow wells from your hands, coalescing around the vultite-edged handwraps.

You make a horribly poor attempt!

Success! The manifestation of hallowed energy sinks inward, permeating the leather and sanctifying the handwraps. All that remains of the divine corona is a wavering dark grey afterimage.</pre>

''Note that the color of the glow, the color of the afterimage, and the name of the god will vary based on your chosen deity.''

Failed sanctification:

<pre{{log2}}>Failure! The manifestation of hallowed energy wanes and dissipates, with only a brief silver afterimage left in its wake. You feel some of your devotion slip away in the fruitless attempt.</pre>

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== Suffusion ==

A cleric can [[Suffusion | suffuse]] devotion at the rate of 1 point of energy per 2,000 devotion. Each point of suffused energy used in a sanctification attempt is equivalent to a +1 bonus. 

== Post Name Titles ==

After spending 50 full weeks of devotion (2.5 million) the cleric will gain access to the Sanctifier [[Title system | title]]. After bestowing 15 items with Holy Fire (3 million devotion) the cleric will gain access to the Holy Flame title. Devotion spent on bestowing Holy Fire counts for devotion spent towards the Sanctifier title. The [[SPELL (verb)|{{boldmono|SPELL}}]] command will show the lifetime amount of both devotion spent and armaments bestowed with Holy Fire.

The titles are listed in the skill section of the title list ({{boldmono|TITLE LIST SKILL}}) and these titles also work with the {{boldmono|SET SHOWDEITYTITLE ON}} setting to create a title of: <character name> the <title> of <deity>.

== Resources ==

* [[Talk:Sanctify (330) | The Discussion Page]]
* [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dHwFm8BQidYis6DwsLSR2Ue3CkzXjHOaFh_PObdJQJc/edit# Bless System Proposal v2.0]
* [https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/870437349388071012/930478683020488704 Update for concussion damage cap]

Talk:Storyline timeline

2023-04-03T21:37:53Z

WINTERDAWN:

I like the look of this, but what about Category:Storylines [[User:FIREPHOENIX|FIREPHOENIX]] ([[User talk:FIREPHOENIX|talk]]) 21:14, 13 February 2017 (CST)
:We can add storyline subcategories like "Storylines in 2017". For the naming convention, would real years (2017) or Elanthian years (5117) be preferable? [[User:ZHOUY1|ZHOUY1]] ([[User talk:ZHOUY1|talk]]) 13:29, 15 February 2017 (CST)

:OOC document. I think it's safe to do years in real time as to avoid having an explanation for game years. [[User:FIREPHOENIX|FIREPHOENIX]] ([[User talk:FIREPHOENIX|talk]]) 21:46, 15 February 2017 (CST)

Thoughts about consolidating this page and [[Unofficial History Timeline (prime)]] into a single page somehow? [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 16:37, 3 April 2023 (CDT)

==Consolidating Pages==

I have taken the information that was on [[:Category:Storylines]] since it was getting long and moved it here into a sortable table. I also had some concern that by having both pages, we were requiring a duplication of effort to update multiple places across the wiki at the same time - or one or another page would be out of date. I also combined what was existing on the page into one table, although I plan on coming back after hearing feedback to add a major/minor column if that distinction is still preferred. (I'm happy to add in the column and put in the data that was existing on the page into that column if that's what is preferred.) If you hate all of this, please feel free to revert it, but I think we will still need another solution for the [[:Category:Storylines]] page as the data was getting unwieldy and out of sync across pages. I am curious if there is a way to automate a list of all the titles from the table on this page to populate on the category page. [[User:MOD-GSMOTTE|MOD-GSMOTTE]] ([[User talk:MOD-GSMOTTE|talk]]) 14:46, 6 May 2021 (CDT)

==Thoughts==
I like the tables a lot. That is what I was going for, but I'm largely putting up huge amounts of content then I go back and code. I can code, but it's not a easy skill without research Wikiwise. My plan was to merge them or split them like you did so right on there. I was just trying to sort out the minor stories, which are mostly non-cannon or player written. I was going to put them in year categories too so the visual works really well for me.

The category work I did with the timeline and really just combining them all then trying to link cities is well envisioned with your two pages. I believe I created them both initially or forms of them so this works and then just referencing them as Storylines and a Timeline separately. Frankly, we could probably put them together. My thoughts were to match the Grimswarm or Landing Defense kind of pages and this starts to move in that direction.

Thank you very much for the coding help. It's not my expertise here and I was focusing on getting the info up. ;) !!!! [[User:FIREPHOENIX|FIREPHOENIX]] ([[User talk:FIREPHOENIX|talk]]) 16:53, 6 May 2021 (CDT)

Talk:Unofficial History Timeline (prime)

2023-04-03T21:37:06Z

WINTERDAWN:

Table is just a placeholder/idea. Feel free to make it better! [[User:GS4-XYNWEN|GS4-XYNWEN]] ([[User talk:GS4-XYNWEN|talk]]) 11:22, 15 March 2023 (CDT)

[[Storyline timeline]] [[User:FIREPHOENIX|FIREPHOENIX]] ([[User talk:FIREPHOENIX|talk]])

Thoughts about consolidating this page and [[Storyline timeline]] into a single page somehow? [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 16:37, 3 April 2023 (CDT)

Storyline timeline

2023-04-03T21:34:09Z

WINTERDAWN:

This is an attempt to catalog the dates by year of events within the world of Elanthia. Both major and minor events or storylines are included below.

* Major events, storylines, or quests are of exceptional size, scope, and years of exection usually encompassing multiple areas of the game or its player base.
* Minor events, storylines, or quests are brief in length, usually over a few days, or recurring characters and their stories that don't tie into the larger picture. These can occasionally be player storylines that gain occasional GM support or are later adopted as canon.

<b>(Most storylines prior to 1995 are usually not considered canon material due to copyright issues with Iron Crown Enterprises when Simutronics and I.C.E allowed the business relationship to expire.)</b>

{| class="wikitable sortable" style="margin-right:26em"
|+ Sortable Table of Storylines by Date or Location
|- style="vertical-align: top; font-size: larger; color:white;"
! style="background-color:#43439E" width="150" scope="col"|Storyline Title
! style="background-color:#43439E" width="50" scope="col"|Starting Year
! style="background-color:#43439E" width="50" scope="col"|Ending Year
! style="background-color:#43439E" width"100" scope="col"|Town(s)
! style="background-color:#43439E" scope="col"|Notes
|-
!scope="row"|[https://web.archive.org/web/20080724210050/http://www.dm.net/~aldamus/Mentors/GemStone/Lore/dragon.htm The Mechanical Dragon]
|1990
|
|
|
|-
!scope="row"|[https://web.archive.org/web/20080725052147/http://www.dm.net/~aldamus/Mentors/GemStone/Lore/swalafat.htm Rival Guild: Swalafat]
|1990
|
|
|
|-
!scope="row"|The [[Council of Light| CoL]] Conflict
|1990
|1991|
|
|[http://www.gshousephoenix.com/Enlightenment/Library/Library.php Council activities and Lacheis]
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!scope="row"|[[The History of Thingul Manor]]
|1993
|
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|-
!scope="row"|Estrion, Lore of [[Darkstone Castle (saved post)| Darkstone Castle]]
|1993
|
|
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!scope="row"|The Leya Quest
|1996
|
|
|[http://www.gshousephoenix.com/Enlightenment/Temple/Arkati/Tales/Leya/LeyaQuest.php The Leya Quest by Deavon Laeren]
|-
!scope="row"|[https://www.gshousephoenix.com/Enlightenment/Library/Lore/FirstGriffinWar.php The First Griffin Sword War]
|1996
|
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!scope="row"|[[The Vvrael]]
|1997
|1998
|
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|-
!scope="row"|[[The Bregandian War]]
|1999
|
|
|This is not viewed as a canon storyline and you won't find any in-game documentation of it outside of Spike the War Rat.
|-
!scope="row"|[[Council of Ten]]
|1999
|2002
|Icemule Trace
|Also known as Fire in Ice.
|-
!scope="row"|[[Wicked Times (storyline)]]
|2000
|
|Elanthia
|Many call this story Something Wicked, The Banaltra, The Feithidmor, or The Linden Trees.
|-
!scope="row"|[[The Demon Queen of Castle Anwyn]]
|2001
|
|
|
|-
!scope="row"|[[Griffin Sword Saga| The Second Griffin Sword War]]
|2001
|2005-09
|Elanthia
|
|-
!scope="row"|[http://www.gshousephoenix.com/Enlightenment/Library/Library.php Lacheis] and [[Council of Light| CoL]] Decoded
|2002
|
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|-
!scope="row"|[[The Vishmiir]]
|2002
|
|Elanthia
|Introduction of day/night system.
|-
!scope="row"|[[War of Nations]]
|2003
|2004
|Elanthia
|Multiple sub-stories involved here including Terror on Teras with the [[Fier'Dracus]], the War with Jantalar, G'Bruk and the Trolls, [[The Archmage in the Alchemists]], [[Czag Dubra|Krolvin Invasion]], the Red Rot and more.
|-
!scope="row"|[[Reivers is Rising]]
|2005
|
|Icemule Trace, Wehnimer's Landing
|
|-
!scope="row"|[[Revenge of the Kiramon]]
|2007
|
|Ta'Illistim
|Release of alchemy
|-
!scope="row"|[[Casler Huntington]]
|2007
|2010
|River's Rest
|
|-
!scope="row"|[[Solhaven Watery Storyline (saved post)| Solhaven Cataclysm]]
|2008
|2010
|Solhaven
|
|-
!scope="row"|[[Ta'Illistim Crystal Storyline]]
|2009
|
|
|
|-
!scope="row"|[[Ride of the Red Dreamer]]
|2010
|2012
|Solhaven
|
|-
!scope="row"|[[Beyond the Arkati]]
|2010-09
|2012-01
|Wehnimer's Landing
|
|-
!scope="row"|[[The Star of Khar'ta]]
|2012-05
|2012-07
|Wehnimer's Landing
|
|-
!scope="row"|[[All the Lich King's Men]]
|2012-12
|2013-02
|Wehnimer's Landing
|
|-
!scope="row"|[[Painful Memories]]
|2014-01
|2014-03
|
|
|-
!scope="row"|[[Cross Into Shadows]]
|2013-12
|2015-01
|Wehnimer's Landing
|
|-
!scope="row"|[[The Roots of All Evil]]
|2015
|
|Wehnimer's Landing
|
|-
!scope="row"|[[Previously in Wehnimer's Landing]]
|2016-01
|
|Wehnimer's Landing
|
|-
!scope="row"|[[Heist of the Dawn Rose]]
|2016
|
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|-
!scope="row"|[[Rooks vs. Icewall Bandits]]
|2016
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|Icemule Trace, Wehnimer's Landing
|
|-
!scope="row"|[[Swan Song]]
|2016
|2017
|Solhaven
|
|-
!scope="row"|[[Return to Sunder]]
|2016-04
|
|Wehnimer's Landing
|
|-
!scope="row"|[[Birds of a Feather]]
|2016-06
|
|Icemule Trace, Wehnimer's Landing
|
|-
!scope="row"|[[Eyes of the Dawn]]
|2016-08
|2016-11
|Wehnimer's Landing
|
|-
!scope="row"|[[Ta'Vaalor Demons]]
|2017
|
|
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|-
!scope="row"|[[Ties That Bind]]
|2017
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|Ta'Illistim, Ta'Vaalor
|
|-
!scope="row"|[[Keeping up with the Kestrels]]
|2017-01
|2017-12
|Wehnimer's Landing
|
|-
!scope="row"|[[Landing Events (KST)]]
|2017-12
|Present
|Wehnimer's Landing
|Catchall for events between storylines
|-

!scope="row"|[[The Troubles]]
|2017
|2018
|Icemule Trace
|
|-

!scope="row"|[[Rise of Rone]]
|2018-01
|2018-03
|Wehnimer's Landing
|
|-
!scope="row"|[[The Green Lady]]
|2018-06
|2018-07
|River's Rest
|
|-
!scope="row"|[[Echoes]]
|2018
|
|Solhaven
|
|-
!scope="row"|[[The Rone Resurgence]]
|2018-08
|2018-10
|Wehnimer's Landing
|
|-
!scope="row"|[[The Nazhor Chronicles]]
|2019-01
|2019-12
|Mist Harbor
|
|-
!scope="row"|[[Witchful Thinking]]
|2019-06
|2019-11
|Wehnimer's Landing
|
|-
!scope="row"|[[Valley of Gold]]
|2019-06
|
|
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|-
!scope="row"|[[All That Remains]]
|2020-05
|2020-05
|Mist Harbor, Wehnimer's Landing
|
|-
!scope="row"|[[Blood Son]]
|2020-06
|2020-08
|Wehnimer's Landing
|
|-
!scope="row"|[[Icemule Renaissance]]
|2020
|
|Icemule Trace
|
|-
!scope="row"|[[A Knight To Remember]]
|2020-09
|
|Wehnimer's Landing
|
|-
!scope="row"|[[The Uncertain Times]]
|2021
|
|Icemule Trace
|
|-
!scope="row"|[[Inevitable]]
|2021
|
|Mist Harbor
|
|-
!scope="row"|[[Ashes to Ashes]]
|2022
|
|Wehnimer's Landing
|
|-
!scope="row"|[[Nations on the Brink]]
|2023
|
| Global (Primarily Solhaven & Ta'Illistim)
|
|-
|}

[[Category:Storylines| ]]

Talk:Dragon Bones

2023-04-03T02:50:33Z

WINTERDAWN:

The "Dragon Bones - The Gambler's Paradise" guide I linked to needs some cleaning up for Google Docs. I'll see about doing that as soon as possible. I may also break Brandain's book out into its own thing. The guide I created was meant to be a single location for all the necessary information about Dragon Bones, for both beginners and advanced players. I never did get around to adding Truekillr's guide into it, and this was well before I did wiki stuff and so organized stuff into document form. [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 21:50, 2 April 2023 (CDT)

Talk:Dragon Bones

2023-04-03T02:50:02Z

WINTERDAWN:

The "Dragon Bones - The Gambler's Paradise" guide I linked to needs some cleaning up for Google Docs. I'll see about doing that as soon as possible. I may also break Brandain's book out into its own thing. The guide I created was meant to be a single location for all the necessary information about Dragon Bones, for both beginners and advanced players. I never did get around to adding Truekillr's guide into it, and this was well before I did wiki stuff and organized stuff into document form. [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 21:50, 2 April 2023 (CDT)

Talk:Dragon Bones

2023-04-03T02:47:40Z

WINTERDAWN: The "Dragon Bones - The Gambler's Paradise" guide I linked to needs some cleaning up for Google Docs. I'll see about doing that as soon as possible.

The "Dragon Bones - The Gambler's Paradise" guide I linked to needs some cleaning up for Google Docs. I'll see about doing that as soon as possible. [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 21:47, 2 April 2023 (CDT)

Dragon Bones

2023-04-03T02:45:46Z

WINTERDAWN: /* Resources */

{{TOCright}}'''Dragon Bones''' is a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craps craps]-like gambling game that is held infrequently, usually during [[festival]]s and [[pay event]]s. Unlike player invented games, Dragon Bones is always run by a [[GameMaster]].

It will always be held in a specific tent designated for the event. Below is an example of a Dragon Bones room:
{{RoomDescription
|roomname=Dragon Bones Tent
|desc=A large table carved in an elaborate dragon motif dominates the center of the chamber, the crimson silk of the tent walls casting a reddish glow upon the waiting dice. Several signs and warnings are scattered about, waiting to be read. You also see a well-dressed grubby gnome cashier, a disclaimer, a payoff chart, a warning, a dusty sign, a large poster and the Dragon Bones table.}}

==History==

The game of Dragon Bones hails from sometime during the [[First Age]]. The exact origins of the game are lost in the depths of time, but are believed to have been created by the [[Arkati]]. However, this is the ONLY game of its kind. These bones are unique. Several games have been created in an attempt to copy Dragon Bones, but have been unable to attain the same quality and excitement. It is said that the dice were created from the bones of deceased dragons by their Arkati servants to honor them. Nobody knows for certain whether this is true or not, we will never know for certain. All that is known is that these bones possess many strange and unidentifiable magical properties. The creator of the game understood this and established certain special bets to take advantage of these random occurrences.

==Betting==

The rules are simple: Someone rolls the bones. People bet money as to whether the roller (called '''Slayer''') will be successful, or unsuccessful. There are several other bets which are impartial to the slayer's success, and are only for one roll. This means that the bet only lasts for ONE roll. You are betting on the outcome of the bones on the next roll. If you bet correctly, you are payed off according to the odds chart. If you do not bet correctly, then your silver is swept into '''The Dragon's Maw'''!

Other bets last for several rolls, and are only dependent on whether the Slayer succumbs to '''Dragon Strike''', or gets the '''Quarry'''. The bones are passed to a new Slayer whenever the current slayer hits a Dragon Strike.

Play begins with the '''Fly Out Roll'''. At this time, there is no Quarry to try and capture. People betting with the Slayer are hoping that a 7 or 11 is rolled on the Fly Out Roll. People betting against are hoping for a 2, 3, or 12 (All of them known as '''Dragon Bite'''). If the Slayer rolls something other than the previous numbers on the Fly Out Roll, that roll becomes the Quarry. To win, the Slayer MUST roll the Quarry again before a 7. For those betting against the Slayer, a 7 is the only way for them to win their bet. If the Slayer captures the Quarry, then he keeps the bones and is on a new Fly Out Roll. And the process begins all over. If ANY of the '''Dragon Bets''' hit, the Slayer retains the bones, AND the next roll will be a Fly Out Roll.

There are several bets that can be made which have nothing to do with the Quarry. Most of them are only concerned with the Slayer rolling a 7 before whatever number is bet upon.

There are TWO types of betting: Normal Betting and Dragon Betting. You may make as many normal bets as you wish. If you do make a normal bet, you will be unable to place a Dragon Bet. Only ONE person may have a particular Dragon Bet.

===Normal Betting===

<pre{{Log2}}> Dragon's Bones Payoff Chart

Bet Types Payoff

One Roll Bets:
2 30 to 1
3 15 to 1
7 4 to 1
11 15 to 1
12 30 to 1
Dragon's Lair (2,3,4,9,10,11,12) Even
(note: Pays out 2 to 1 if roll is 2 or 12)

Any Dragon Bite (2,3, or 12) 7 to 1

Multiple Roll Bets

Dragon Spine Even
Dragon's Belly Even
(note: A bet on the Spine is in support of the Slayer.)
(note: A bet on the Belly is not in support of the Slayer.)

Odds Quarry Dependent
4 or 10 9 to 5
5 or 9 7 to 5
6 or 8 7 to 6
Scaly 4 or 10 7 to 1
Scaly 6 or 8 9 to 1</pre>

===Dragon Betting===
When normal betting has closed and Dragon Betting begun, you may place a Dragon Bet provided you have not bet on anything else. There are FOUR Dragon Bets. Only ONE person may bet a specific Dragon Bet. The minimum betting requirements and specific payouts for each bet are listed below:

{| class="wikitable"
!Dragon Bet
!Minimum bet amount
!Payout
|-
!Dragon's Breath
|1/10th the amount currently bet on the table.
|Your original bet AND all silver currently bet on the table.
|-
!Dragon Spawn
|1/200th the amount currently in the Dragon's Maw.
|40 times your original bet AND all silver currently bet on the table.
|-
!Dragon's Blood
|1000 silvers.
|Twice the total accumulated while betting Dragon's Blood. Please read the posted warning before you bet on Dragon's Blood.
|-
!Dragon Master
|1/100th the amount currently in the Dragon's Maw.
|All silver currently bet on the table plus one half the Dragon's Maw, AND you will receive 1/10th the value of the Maw at the end of the Gaming.
|-
!colspan=3|All Dragon Bets are considered to be ONE roll bets with the exception of Dragon's Blood and if a Dragon Bet wins, the next roll will be a Fly Out Roll.
|}
==Resources==
*[https://web.archive.org/web/20150628002944/http://www.gemstone.net/etimes/et9/trickso.htm Truekillr's Guide]
*[https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UACNoP0dZkj-UgIeJxW2jSgTJE5mSlRu Dragon Bones - The Gambler's Paradise] (this is a document I created that explains Dragon Bones, with examples, and also includes the in game "book form" guide created by [[Brandain (prime) | Brandain]]; the guide by Brandain is very informational while the guide by me is meant to be a thorough explanation of how to play)
*[https://drive.google.com/file/d/19fCg_fkfNQHyR2nfJ-1o6yYR-SkNc07G Backup of Truekillr's Guide] (this is a PDF version of Truekillr's Guide in case the website link stops working; it is as informational as Brandain's guide)

[[Category: Games]][[Category: Events]]

Dragon Bones

2023-04-03T02:45:17Z

WINTERDAWN: added a link to a Google Drive document and Google Drive PDF (a combo guide by myself which includes Brandain's in game book and a backup of Truekillr's guide)

{{TOCright}}'''Dragon Bones''' is a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craps craps]-like gambling game that is held infrequently, usually during [[festival]]s and [[pay event]]s. Unlike player invented games, Dragon Bones is always run by a [[GameMaster]].

It will always be held in a specific tent designated for the event. Below is an example of a Dragon Bones room:
{{RoomDescription
|roomname=Dragon Bones Tent
|desc=A large table carved in an elaborate dragon motif dominates the center of the chamber, the crimson silk of the tent walls casting a reddish glow upon the waiting dice. Several signs and warnings are scattered about, waiting to be read. You also see a well-dressed grubby gnome cashier, a disclaimer, a payoff chart, a warning, a dusty sign, a large poster and the Dragon Bones table.}}

==History==

The game of Dragon Bones hails from sometime during the [[First Age]]. The exact origins of the game are lost in the depths of time, but are believed to have been created by the [[Arkati]]. However, this is the ONLY game of its kind. These bones are unique. Several games have been created in an attempt to copy Dragon Bones, but have been unable to attain the same quality and excitement. It is said that the dice were created from the bones of deceased dragons by their Arkati servants to honor them. Nobody knows for certain whether this is true or not, we will never know for certain. All that is known is that these bones possess many strange and unidentifiable magical properties. The creator of the game understood this and established certain special bets to take advantage of these random occurrences.

==Betting==

The rules are simple: Someone rolls the bones. People bet money as to whether the roller (called '''Slayer''') will be successful, or unsuccessful. There are several other bets which are impartial to the slayer's success, and are only for one roll. This means that the bet only lasts for ONE roll. You are betting on the outcome of the bones on the next roll. If you bet correctly, you are payed off according to the odds chart. If you do not bet correctly, then your silver is swept into '''The Dragon's Maw'''!

Other bets last for several rolls, and are only dependent on whether the Slayer succumbs to '''Dragon Strike''', or gets the '''Quarry'''. The bones are passed to a new Slayer whenever the current slayer hits a Dragon Strike.

Play begins with the '''Fly Out Roll'''. At this time, there is no Quarry to try and capture. People betting with the Slayer are hoping that a 7 or 11 is rolled on the Fly Out Roll. People betting against are hoping for a 2, 3, or 12 (All of them known as '''Dragon Bite'''). If the Slayer rolls something other than the previous numbers on the Fly Out Roll, that roll becomes the Quarry. To win, the Slayer MUST roll the Quarry again before a 7. For those betting against the Slayer, a 7 is the only way for them to win their bet. If the Slayer captures the Quarry, then he keeps the bones and is on a new Fly Out Roll. And the process begins all over. If ANY of the '''Dragon Bets''' hit, the Slayer retains the bones, AND the next roll will be a Fly Out Roll.

There are several bets that can be made which have nothing to do with the Quarry. Most of them are only concerned with the Slayer rolling a 7 before whatever number is bet upon.

There are TWO types of betting: Normal Betting and Dragon Betting. You may make as many normal bets as you wish. If you do make a normal bet, you will be unable to place a Dragon Bet. Only ONE person may have a particular Dragon Bet.

===Normal Betting===

<pre{{Log2}}> Dragon's Bones Payoff Chart

Bet Types Payoff

One Roll Bets:
2 30 to 1
3 15 to 1
7 4 to 1
11 15 to 1
12 30 to 1
Dragon's Lair (2,3,4,9,10,11,12) Even
(note: Pays out 2 to 1 if roll is 2 or 12)

Any Dragon Bite (2,3, or 12) 7 to 1

Multiple Roll Bets

Dragon Spine Even
Dragon's Belly Even
(note: A bet on the Spine is in support of the Slayer.)
(note: A bet on the Belly is not in support of the Slayer.)

Odds Quarry Dependent
4 or 10 9 to 5
5 or 9 7 to 5
6 or 8 7 to 6
Scaly 4 or 10 7 to 1
Scaly 6 or 8 9 to 1</pre>

===Dragon Betting===
When normal betting has closed and Dragon Betting begun, you may place a Dragon Bet provided you have not bet on anything else. There are FOUR Dragon Bets. Only ONE person may bet a specific Dragon Bet. The minimum betting requirements and specific payouts for each bet are listed below:

{| class="wikitable"
!Dragon Bet
!Minimum bet amount
!Payout
|-
!Dragon's Breath
|1/10th the amount currently bet on the table.
|Your original bet AND all silver currently bet on the table.
|-
!Dragon Spawn
|1/200th the amount currently in the Dragon's Maw.
|40 times your original bet AND all silver currently bet on the table.
|-
!Dragon's Blood
|1000 silvers.
|Twice the total accumulated while betting Dragon's Blood. Please read the posted warning before you bet on Dragon's Blood.
|-
!Dragon Master
|1/100th the amount currently in the Dragon's Maw.
|All silver currently bet on the table plus one half the Dragon's Maw, AND you will receive 1/10th the value of the Maw at the end of the Gaming.
|-
!colspan=3|All Dragon Bets are considered to be ONE roll bets with the exception of Dragon's Blood and if a Dragon Bet wins, the next roll will be a Fly Out Roll.
|}
==Resources==
*[https://web.archive.org/web/20150628002944/http://www.gemstone.net/etimes/et9/trickso.htm Truekillr's Guide]
*[https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UACNoP0dZkj-UgIeJxW2jSgTJE5mSlRu Dragon Bones - The Gambler's Paradise] (this is a document I created that explains Dragon Bones, with examples, and also includes the in game book form guide created by [[Brandain (prime) | Brandain]]; the guide by Brandain is very informational while the guide by me is meant to be a thorough explanation of how to play)
*[https://drive.google.com/file/d/19fCg_fkfNQHyR2nfJ-1o6yYR-SkNc07G Backup of Truekillr's Guide] (this is a PDF version of Truekillr's Guide in case the website link stops working; it is as informational as Brandain's guide)

[[Category: Games]][[Category: Events]]

Chaston's Edict

2023-04-02T18:33:05Z

WINTERDAWN: /* See Also */ consistency edit

{{TOCright}}
{{Quote|
"By order of the Sun Throne, let it be known that all citizens of the Turamzzyrian Empire who are, or who are probably believed to be descended from Elven Stock, are hereby prohibited from owning land or business;

Let it further be known that all lands and businesses presently held by those of Elven Stock are hereby, and in perpetuity, property of the Sun Throne;

Let it further be known that any citizen who resists, or is found to be in violation of this Edict, will suffer the ire of the Sun Throne."
|[[Elves of Wyrdeep|Emperor Chaston Kestrel]]}}
'''Chaston's Edict''' was a proclamation by Emperor [[Chaston Kestrel]] of the [[Turamzzyrian Empire]] in the year 4310. The proclamation's purpose was to forbid all Imperial citizens of partial or full elven descent from owning any property. It was amended in 4479 by Emperor [[Roginard Burzost]] to forbid non-humans from ascending to positions of leadership. After growing opposition to it, Chaston's Edict was formally repealed by Emperor [[Aurmont Chandrennin Anodheles]] in 5122.

==History==

Chaston's Edict originally targeted elves and those of mixed elven heritage. After the Edict was established in 4310 by Emperor [[Chaston Kestrel]], the property of many elves was seized throughout the Empire. Skirmishes broke out between Emperor [[Enruned gold signet ring set with a brilliant fire pearl|Chaston's enforcers]] and elven citizens. Elves, and those of elven blood, also started to move out of the Empire. Many of them settled in [[Wyrdeep Forest]] in the Barony of [[Bourth]], where many elves had already established communities within the ancient forest. Both Bourth and the Wyrdeep became recurring places of conflict within the Empire as its citizens struggled with the reality of the Edict in a region that already had a long history of many races living side by side. The Wyrdeep itself eventually became known as a bastion of elven expatriates. In [[Gallardshold]], the Bourth city closest to the Wyrdeep, the people established long traditions of [[Bourth#Customs|wearing special symbols]] to indicate whether they supported or opposed the Edict.

Due to the exodus of elves, many citizens skilled in magic left the Empire. In response to this, Emperor [[Immuros Kestrel]], cousin of Emperor Chaston, established the [[Hall of Mages]] to encourage magical study among non-elves. He also [[Enruned gold signet ring set with a brilliant fire pearl|disbanded the enforcers]] and ordered that the harassment of elven citizens cease. The opposing sentiments of both Emperor Chaston and Emperor Immuros were echoed over multiple generations, causing both support and interpretation of the Edict to vary between successors to great detriment to the Empire and its people.

In 4479, Emperor [[Roginard Burzost]] amended the Edict by establishing legal terms of [[hathlyn]] and [[ordlyn]] to codify how the Edict discriminated between humans, elves, and those of mixed ancestry or other races, using specific terms to define people by their heritage. ''Hathlyn'' referred specifically to those of mixed human and elven heritage. ''Ordlyn'' referred to all other non-humans who did not have any elven ancestry. In addition to adding these definitions, Emperor Roginard also expanded the edict to discriminate not just against elves but also against any non-humans. His additions prevented hathlyn and ordlyn from serving in any position of leadership, including in guilds, politics, and higher military ranks.

[[Elves of Wyrdeep|These legal terms were drawn from the old Kannalan language]]. It is worth noting that the Turamzzyrian Empire was built atop of the [[Kannalan Empire]] after its collapse in 3961, with the first Empress [[Selantha Anodheles]] uniting the three major Kannalan cities of [[Tamzyrr]], [[Elstreth]], and Kai Toka in the years prior to her coronation in 4278. The territories around those cities are known today as [[Selanthia]], [[Aldora]], and what was [[Kezmon Isle]]. Under Empress Selantha's reign, the old Kannalan regions of Bourth, [[Honneland]], and [[Toullaire]] were also seized by the Sun Throne. In the generations that followed, the Turamzzyrian Empire slowly absorbed the remainder of the original Kannalan territories. While no documents exist to either affirm or deny the purpose behind Emperor Roginard ammending Chaston's Edict in 4479 to incorporate Kannalan terminology or to target ordlyn specifically, it is possible that this was to prevent the growing presence of Kannalan-era bloodlines, which had included [[giantmen|Kindred]] and [[halflings|Truefolk]] in addition to humans, from regaining control. In spite of this, the presence of Kindred in particular did continue to grow and become more accepted throughout the Empire.

Eastern Bourth continued to openly trade with the elves of the Wyrdeep in spite of it being technically in violation of the Edict. In 4599, a minor lord in Bourth, [[Gallard Wilke]], sent collectors into the Wyrdeep to demand the elves living there pay taxes. The elves responded by killing at least one of the collectors. Lord Gallard retaliated by razing an entire elven village in the Wyrdeep. These events escalated until Emperor [[Krellove Chandrennin]] stepped in after the [[Nalfein]] were implicated in supplying the Wyrdeep elves. He built an army and declared war against the Nalfein. The [[First Turamzzyrian-Nalfein War]] lasted from 4605 to 4610. It ended abruptly after Emperor Krellove's death, with his successor Emperor [[Toscus Chandrennin]] declaring an end to the war.

In a twist of fate, Emperor Toscus was later assassinated by palace guard [[Veta Villaune]] after a message implicated him as having secretly communicated with the Nalfein following the war's conclusion. Emperor [[Baeronnar Chandrennin]], who ascended the throne following Emperor Toscus' death, married Veta after being impressed by her decisive actions in killing Emperor Toscus for his perceived betrayal. He supported Emperor Krellove's prior aggression and immediately started to move against the Nalfein. However, the [[Witch Winter]] swept over the Empire as he began his campaign, resulting in the destruction of his armies and the fall of the [[Kingdom of Hendor]]. The war was abandoned before it was formally declared.

Emperor [[Perrinor Rysus]] established the [[Rysus Codex]] in 4694, which irreversibly altered the Emperor's role within the Empire and the Sun Throne's relationship with the Imperial noble houses. Prior to its ratification, the Empire had held a traditional absolutist authority over all of its lands, however with the assimilation of Hendor after its fall, many of the Empire's new noble citizens demanded a shift toward feudalism. The Rysus Codex declared the rights of all Imperial citizens, from Emperor to field hand, as well as codifying the responsibilities of rulers to the people of the Empire. Noteably, the Rysus Codex held no explicit references to either slaves, who had no rights, or to non-humans.

[[Prelate Fzendoor]] of [[Immuron]] initiated the [[Second Turamzzyrian-Nalfein War]] in 4769, which was immediately supported by Emperor [[Rallick Anodheles]]. Emperor Rallick participated in the campaign, which resulted in his death in 4771. His succesor, Emperor [[Theron Anodheles]], negotiated a peace treaty with the Nalfein to end the war.

Empress [[Selantha Anodheles II]] declared war on the [[Faendryl]] in 4841, resulting in the [[Turamzzyrian-Faendryl War]], after hearing a prophecy that the Empire would experience a new age of glory. While no treaty was signed to officially end the war, its conclusion happened only a year later by a decisive Faendryl victory. The area between [[Barrett's Gorge]] and [[New Ta'Faendryl]] became infested with demons, later necessitating construction of the [[Demonwall]].

While both of these wars focused on other nations beyond the Empire's borders, they reinforced core tenants of the Edict within the Empire, elevating human interests over that of the other races.

In the years that followed, the [[Horned Cabal]] rose as a threat within the Empire. The [[Order of Voln]], whose ranks changed throughout its history depending on if support of the Edict was waxing or waning, rose to prominence in the face of the threat posed by the Horned Cabal. This was especially true in the southern Imperial territories such as [[Aldora]]. Out of necessity, the Order of Voln's ranks swelled with non-humans, who fought side-by-side with and were seen as equals to human members of the Order. This changed popular support in many regions of the Empire away from the Edict, especially in those regions where the Order of Voln held prominence. It was during this time that Grandmaster Finevas, a half-elf who took his name from the elven hero [[Fineval]], was selected by Duke Chandrennin of Aldora to be the [[Elves of Wyrdeep#The Undead Menace (4953-5074)|grandmaster of the newly restored K'Tafali Manor]], the first monastery that had been established by the Order of Voln near [[Krestle]], in Bourth.

==Recent History==

When Empress [[Mynal'lyanna Anodheles]] ascended to the Sun Throne in 5092, she eagerly and aggressively reinforced Chaston's Edict and promoted a program of human superiority at the expense of other races. Her ambitions were met with mixed responses, ranging from hostility from the Empire's elven neighbors, to rejoicing among those sections of the Empire that had traditionally supported the Edict, to wary compliance or outright defiance of the Edict in those areas that opposed the Edict. Her reign saw a period of chaos in the northern Empire lasting nearly a decade.

Baron [[Lerep Hochstib]] of [[Jantalar]], an avid supporter of Chaston's Edict in spite of his own half-elven heritage, [[:Category:Baron Hochstib and the Mandis Crystal|launched a series of wars]] against his neighboring territories within the Empire, a period of aggression that Empress Mynal'lyanna supported. He invaded and annexed [[Talador]] in 5087, a barony that had a long tradition of tolerance toward other races, especially dwarves, who were a sizeable percentage of the population. After conquering Talador, the Baron enslaved the dwarven clans who lived there and killed hundreds of them as a show of power. Empress Mynal'lyanna provided Baron Lerep with [[Mandis Crystal|mandis crystals]] to directly help his campaign, leading to his successful invasion and annexation of [[Mestanir]] in 5092, a barony that had long held an open mindedness toward humans and harbored rogue spellcasters unregistered with the Hall of Mages. Baron Lerep then declared war on [[Vornavis]] in 5096, another northern barony with a long tradition of tolerance and whose own Baron [[Dunrith Malwind]] was himself half-elven, and against whom [[Tale of Two Barons|Baron Lerep held a very personal grudge]]. His war against Vornavis lasted far longer and ultimately was unsuccessful, with the exception of a blockade established to prevent trade from reaching [[Solhaven]]. Perhaps because of his failures to acquire a port within Vornavis and the alliances developing between Vornavis and towns north of it, Baron Lerep also targeted territories outside of the Empire, including both [[Wehnimer's Landing]] and [[Icemule Trace]], as he sought both to expand Jantalar and to spread the influence of Chaston's Edict.

This same time of upheaval that came to be known as the [[:Category:War of Nations|War of Nations]] saw the assassination of Empress Mynal'lyanna in Vornavis during her tour of the Empire, on [[Fashanos]] 1, 5103. Her death was not enough to stop Baron Lerep and his warmongering, however it did solidify support for those who opposed him and those who opposed Chaston's Edict. Emperor [[Aurmont Chandrennin Anodheles]] formally ascended to the Sun Throne a month later on [[Charlatos]] 3. In the interim, dignitaries and organized groups responded differently to Empress Mynal'lyanna's death. The [[Parkshnuum Clan]], which included those dwarves killed and enslaved by Baron Lerep in Talador, condemned the late Empress' actions during her reign and cautioned her successor to not make the same mistakes. [[Argent Mirror]] [[Myasara]] of the [[Illistim]] elves condemned the act of regicide but likewise encouraged the Empress' successor to usher in a more civilized way of life for his people.

One of Emperor Aurmont's first actions was to appoint Earl [[Eddric Jovery]] of [[North Hendor]] as [[Northern Sentinel]], a position that Empress Mynal'lyanna had conveniently left vacant during Baron Lerep's wars of aggression. He also ordered Baron Lerep to return the mandis crystals untainted that the late Empress Mynal'lyanna had given him. The Baron refused, and instead escalated his siege of Wehnimer's Landing. Emporer Aurmont ordered Earl Eddric to act on his behalf in his new role of Northern Sentinel to resolve the conflict. Earl Eddric sent his forces from Hendor to aid Wehnimer's Landing, directly opposing Baron Lerep. Baron Dunrith of Vornavis also sent his forces to bolster Earl Eddric's efforts. Baron Lerep was repelled but did not acquiesce. He was eventually defeated, killed in battle in [[Eoantos]] 5103 in the [[Outlands Manor]], outside of Vornavis as he prepared another attack. Earl Eddric and Baron Dunrith knighted a number of heroic individuals after the battles had concluded, including elves and [[giantmen|Kindred]].

Following the death of both Baron Lerep and Empress Mynal'lyanna, the Empire fell into a period of uneasy peace. Many territories further turned away from the tenants of Chaston's Edict in the wake of the previous years' chaos, especially those on the outskirts of the Empire, such as Vornavis, [[Bourth]], and [[Aldora]].

Ten years into his reign, Emperor Aurmont issued [[Prestige and Prejudice in the Empire - On Imperial Rank and Titles#Those Outside: Non-Humans in a Human Land|Aurmont's Edict of 5113]], which declared that no individual within the Empire who bears a drop of human blood should be treated as less than human. His Edict was said to be inspired by the long service of Baron Dunrith.

In 5114, [[Prestige and Prejudice in the Empire - On Imperial Rank and Titles#|Prelate]] [[Chaston Griffin]], rose to prominence within the [[Church of Koar]] and was appointed the Prelate of Talador as the barony finally reclaimed its rightful independence. Originally from Jantalar, Prelate Chaston had served under Baron Lerep during his wars of aggression against Talador and the other northern territories, and he fervently supported Chaston's Edict. Over the next two years, Prelate Chaston established the [[Blameless]] to purge any lingering traces of the [[Dark Alliance]]'s influence throughout the Empire that may have remained after the conclusion of the [[Griffin Sword Saga]]. That focus swiftly changed to target the entire [[Lornon]] Pantheon's influence, both within the Empire and without, often resorting to violence to force confessions before executing accused offenders even after they forsake their patrons to convert to Koar. He eventually targeted all those not aligned with Koar, such as slaughtering an entire village of [[Imaera|Imaeran]] sylvans simply because they refused to honor Koar above their patron, Imaera. He then expanded his crusade even further to include all non-humans, invoking Chaston's Edict as proof that his cause was just. Prelate Chaston targeted half-elves in particular, experimenting on them to develop a contagious disease that was alchemically modified to target those with mixed human and elven blood with the intent to commit genocide against them throughout the Empire and return the Empire, and potentially all of Elanthia, to a state of racial purity. He was indifferent, if not supportive, of the same disease also affecting other non-human races. He also used the blood of imprisoned half-elves, non-humans, and human "heretics" to create [[blood marble]] in the mines of Talador.

In addition to Wehnimer's Landing, multiple Imperial territories are caught up in Prelate Chaston's crusade. Politically motivated attacks and assassination attempts occurred across the Empire, targeting those Imperials who indirectly or directly opposed Chaston's Edict. [[Larsya Caulfield]], the young daughter of Baron [[Spensor Caulfield]] of [[Bourth]], was struck with a poisoned arrow. Several representatives from the Imperial territories convened in [[Tamzyrr]] to meet with Emperor Aurmont in [[Imaerasta]] 5116 amid the rising tensions, including [[Salnim Malwind]], Baron Dunrith's son and heir to Vornavis. In response to Vornavis' explicit tolerance toward all races and Baron Dunrith refuting Prelate Chaston's authority when he spoke during a Vornavian court session, the Baron was infected by the half-elven disease. Prelate Chaston kidnapped Earl Eddric, declaring him a heretic for his tolerance of non-humans and opposition to the Prelate's plans.

Earl Eddric and other hostages were eventually rescued in [[Eoantos]] 5116 from where they had been imprisoned and forced to work in the Taladoran mines. During the rescue mission, which was bolstered by both Vornavian and Imperial forces, a massive blood marble obelisk was located, being pushed slowly toward a portal that led directly to the heart of [[Tamzyrr]] by peasants enthralled by Prelate Chaston. Prelate Chaston himself appeared and was struck down, but in his final moments he activated the obelisk before it was able to be moved from Talador to Tamzyrr. The obelisk was a magical weapon of mass destruction intended to "purge" the taint of open-mindedness held by Emperor Aurmont and many others across the Empire by killing as many people as possible. It detonated in Talador, causing the total destruction of the barony and the formation of the [[Bleaklands]]. The population of Talador was decimated, and those who survived were forced to flee, having lost everything.

In the days following the destruction of Talador by Prelate Chaston, Emperor Aurmont issued a decree in 5116 that he would gather the [[Prestige and Prejudice in the Empire - On Imperial Rank and Titles#The Council of Lords|Council of Lords]] to begin work on passing law to end Chaston's Edict:

{{Quote|
"In the aftermath of one of the most devastating losses of life in the Empire’s recent history, all of the great land mourns. It is said that because such evil and hate was allowed to foster, even within the Empire’s own borders, that Emperor Aurmont Anodheles has issued a command that in the coming weeks and months he will be gathering his Council of Lords to begin work on finally passing law that ends Chaston’s Edict, or even the notion of it. Even in light of the tragedy, many cheered the Emperor’s decision and praised it as a great step in helping to right much of the wrong that the Empire has done in the past, when it comes to the rights and persecution of non-humans. Meanwhile, others speculate that it came too little too late, and argue it could take years for such an act to happen given the often gridlocked politics and arrogance among imperial nobility."
|[[Chaston's Edict/saved posts#Righting the Wrong – An Imperial Decree|Righting the Wrong – An Imperial Decree]]}}
This speculation would hold true.

==Valley of Gold and the Edict's Repeal==

Over the next two years, a variety of territories and nations came together to support the refugees in the wake of [[Talador]]'s destruction. [[Kasendra Chandrennin]], daughter of Duke [[Bannon Chandrennin]] of [[Aldora]], traveled north to offer her help to [[Swan Song|offer her help in organizing the relief efforts]]. She had prior experience aiding [[Estoria]], and after gaining the support of [[Vornavis]] and the other northern territories, she quickly found [[Salnim Malwind]] at her side offering his aid. A frequent theme of this aid was to offer it to all in need, especially as non-humans were the most impacted by Prelate Chaston's heinous actions.

Meanwhile, in [[Ta'Illistim]], concerned citizens petitioned [[Argent Mirror]] [[Myasara]] to expand her own aid efforts, which had recently including sending food and supplies to [[Ta'Vaalor]] after it suffered an unnatural winter. Lady [[Sayilla Javilerre]] was appointed as an ambassador of the Argent Mirror and traveled west to meet directly with Baron [[Dunrith Malwind]], as most of the relief effort coordination was based out of Vornavis. Sayilla secured airship docking rights in Solhaven to better facilitate transfer of supplies from Ta'Illistim for the relief efforts. She also met Kasendra, and the two began to foster positive relations between their respective nations.

Baron Dunrith was so impressed by Sayilla that he shared the ongoing efforts with Emperor [[Aurmont]], who agreed to open discussions with the Argent Mirror. After some correspondence between them, Emperor Aurmont and the Argent Mirror agreed to meet in person to discuss future aid and to sign a treaty that would declare a mutual respect and friendship between their sovereign nations. This treaty became known as the [[Valley of Gold]] accord, named after the valley in which it was held in [[Lumnea]] 5119. While the other four elven Houses were invited to participate, they shared a mixed response. King [[Qualinor]] of the [[Vaalor]] attended, appearing to passively support the treaty. The [[Nalfein]] were displeased, and an envoy, [[Ianthra]], was sent to represent the House and keep an eye on what happened. The [[Ardenai]] and [[Loenthra]] acknowledged the event and invitation but did not attend, taking the politically safe route of non-involvement.

In spite of the Valley of Gold treaty, the improving relations with outside elven nations, and the overall opposition to the Chaston's Edict within the Empire, the Edict remained in effect. While Kasendra [[:Category:What Follows|continued her involvement]] with the Talador relief efforts, working closely with Salnim, progress on Emperor Aurmont's command to repeal the Edict appeared to have stalled.

In early 5122, Kasendra and Salnim [[2022-03-13 - Vornavis Baronial Court Session (log)|wed ahead of an anticipated announcement]]. Shortly afterward, Emperor Aurmont announced that Kasendra would travel to Ta'Illistim on his behalf as a diplomat, where she was [[Kasendra Malwind/saved posts|welcomed into the Illistim court as an emissary]] alongside Argent Mirror Myasara's handmaidens. Sayilla, meanwhile, was welcomed in a similar diplomatic role in [[Tamzyrr]]. [[Requiem and Renewal (storyline)/saved posts#Some Days Begin With Why|Following the death of Kasendra's father]], Duke [[Bannon Chandrennin]], she returned to Aldora for the funeral. Emperor Aurmont also attended as Duke Bannon was his uncle. Before she returned east, Kasendra [[Requiem and Renewal (storyline)/saved posts#Renewal|spent some time talking with Emperor Aurmont as his cousin]] about the future she envisioned for her and Salnim, who in spite of appearing human is actually quarter elven. She urged Aurmont to fully repeal Chaston's Edict, not just for the sake of the children they planned to have together, but also because it was the right thing to do.

In [[Koaratos]] 5122, Baron [[Spensor Caulfield]] of Bourth died of old age. A funeral was held for him in the [[Wyrdeep]], honoring the longstanding traditions of the [[Caulfield]] family to pay respect for the ancient forest and its ways. Most in attendance wore [[Bourth#Customs|symbols indicating their opposition to the Edict]], including the Caulfield family. In the days following and prior to his own coronation, Baron Spensor's son and heir, [[Breshon Caulfield]], traveled to Tamzyrr to [[:Category:Born of Bourth#The Way Forward|demand the Council of Lords and the Emperor]] finally act on Emperor Aurmont's decree of 5116 to end Chaston's Edict. In retaliation for his words and actions, the remnants of the [[Blameless]] attempted to disrupt Breshon's coronation three days later but were unsuccessful.

Two days after Baron Breshon's coronation, on [[Phoenatos]] 6, 5122, Emperor Aurmont formally announced the Edict's full repeal.

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"Nine centuries ago, an idea was given form to bring prosperity and safety to three towns in a time of great uncertainty. Fifty years later, that idea would be put to the test, the result of which would give birth to the Turamzzyrian Empire. The march forward would not be a simple or easy one. There would be moments of joy and moments of sorrow. Moments where we stumbled and moments where we stood tall. Each of those moments over eight centuries would bring forth a nation that now has dozens of cities, that would span from the Wastes to the wilderness, from the mountains to the sea, and that is the home to countless people.

Some will say that our best days are now behind us. That the strength and will that one filled our heroic hearts has been lost to the ages. We however, believe that our best days are before us, ready and waiting to be shaped. To do so we must always remember our past, but in doing so we cannot allow ourselves to be shackled to it. We must never forget the deeds and words, the persons and lives, that made this Empire. Because it is not lines on a map or great cities of stone and mortar that truly give our nation shape, but rather its many people and citizens.

Now, ever striving, ever seeking, we shall step forward together into a new era. For it is on this day that the idea of the Turamzzyrian Empire will renew itself. It is on this day that we let go of what came before and embrace that which comes now. On this day we show that we can do better, we must do better, we shall do better, and we are all better for it. For it is on this day, and forever more forward, that we rescind Chaston's Edict.

Henceforth on this day, the fifth of Phoenatos in the year 5122, persons of all descents, elven or otherwise, shall have the right to own land or businesses within the Turamzzyrian Empire. That all citizens of the Empire shall have equal standing before the law regardless of the descent of the individual.

Let us now step forward together, citizens of the Empire."
|[[Chaston's Edict/saved posts#News from Tamzyrr|Emperor Aurmont Chandrennin Anodheles]]}}
In spite of the formal declaration, there are still factions within the Turamzzyrian Empire who hold onto the idea of racial purity, placing humans above all other races. They include the remnants of the [[Blameless]] as well as holdouts elsewhere in the Empire. In 5123, [[:Category:Nations on the Brink|both Kasendra and Sayilla were killed while serving in their diplomatic roles abroad]]. Those seeking a return to Chaston's Edict have taken advantage of the unrest that has followed, fanning the flames of discontent toward hatred.

==Travel Guide==
The [[travel guide]] system was introduced in the early 00s to provide a way for characters under level 20 to safely gain passage between the three starter towns and cities. As part of some of the random dialog, the travel guide relates the following information about Chaston's Edict. It is worth noting that the dialog has ''not'' been updated since it was first released and is nearly two decades out of date.
<pre{{log2}}>
The guide says, "Parts of the Turamzyrrian Empire are very resistant to non-humans. So much so, that a decree was made a long time ago called Chaston's Edict, created by Chaston Kestrel, which barred all elves from owning land or businesses. Many elves fled the region during that time and the ones that remained were reduced to a life of slavery or serfdom."

The guide says, "Chaston's Edict was amended and replaced by the [[Rysus Codex]] in year 4694, though the Codex didn't abolish the discrimination completely. The Rysus Codex is a massive document detailing the laws of the human empire, and it established a feudalistic society, ruled by the noble human houses. Non-humans, especially elves, were barred from positions of nobility within the empire."

The guide says, "All this talk of Chaston's Edict reminds me of Baron Lerep Hochstib. He was a half-elf, or Hathlyn, as they're referred to in the empire. He recently attacked Wehnimer's Landing, you know, using a Crystal that rendered magic-users completely useless."

The guide says, "It was a long, hard battle, but the people of the Landing eventually toppled his forces when they destroyed the crystal. They even managed to destroy his crystal in Mestanir!"

The guide says, "For example of the allowances made for some half-elves, or Hathlyn, as they're known here. He sought to increase the land of his barony and set out to destroy Mestanir, an area of the human empire known for its skilled mages."

The guide says, "By way of the Mandis Crystal, a powerful anti-magic relic, and some backing from the empress, Hochstib was able to effectively battle the humans from Mestanir."

The guide says, "He also sought to claim Vornavis, the barony around Solhaven. Though in 5098, the caravan road we're travelling on right now was completed by Vornavis, allowing less necessary travel through the lands of Jantalar."

The guide says, "Baron Hochstib also tried to take Wehnimer's Landing through a series of drawn out battles many of which included use of the Mandis Crystal to quell the powerful mages and sorcerers of the lands. Hochstib was killed during a brazen attempt to control Wehnimer's Landing, Solhaven and Vornavis in 5103."

The guide says, "The severe restrictions on non-humans have abated somewhat since, until the reign of Empress Mynal'lyanna, who called for greater pride in humankind and a revival of Chaston's Edict. The empress was assassinated in 5103 by a rogue witch-hunter whose bolt was infused with [[Luukosian deathwort]]."

The guide says, "Empress Mynal'lyanna restored much of the Turamzzyrian pride within the empire, by reviving the restrictions imposed on non-Humans by the Chaston Edict. The infusion of racial pride is most prevalent in the military and nobility, and in cities nearest to the imperial capital."
</pre>

==Behind the Scenes==
News of Emperor Aurmont's decree formally repealing Chaston's Edict was announced live at [[Simucon]] 2022. GM Lydil read the proclamation aloud in front of attendees and on Radio Free Simucon. The proclamation was presented as a physical document prepared for the event.

==See Also==
* [[/saved posts|Saved posts]]
* [[Elves of Wyrdeep|The Empire's Expatriates: The Elves of the Wyrdeep]] (official document)
* [[faded piece of parchment|Hunt for History prize - a faded piece of parchment]]
* [[Enruned gold signet ring set with a brilliant fire pearl|Hunt for History prize - an enruned gold signet ring set with a brilliant fire pearl]]
* [[War of Nations]]
* [[Eyes of the Dawn]]
* [[:Category:Swan Song|Swan Song]]
* [[:Category:Born of Bourth|Born of Bourth]]
* [[:Category:Nations on the Brink|Nations on the Brink]]
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2023-04-02T09:55:56Z

WINTERDAWN:

This page is for me to communicate complex bug reports.

== The Misfires of Relieve Burden (314) ==

Over several months a number of players have expressed curiosity on why their Relieve Burden (314), a stackable spell, is misfiring when they try to add it to their existing duration. Myself, and others, have chalked it up to their Blessings Lore changing. Except, it started happening to me.

For the uninitiated on the spell, Relieve Burden removes a set amount of silvers from encumbrance. Blessings Lore will increase the amount of silvers that are removed from encumbrance. The common way this spell misfires is when you use a Blessings Lore enhancive, cast the spell, and then remove the enhancive and try to cast the spell again. You are trying to replace a superior version with an inferior version and so it misfires.

What follows is a log of Relieve Burden misfiring on me. Take note that 1) I have 0 natural Blessings Lore in this log and 2) I had no Blessings Lore enhancives on. I don't know if the Invoker is involved or not. I don't think so but I haven't seen a situation where I hadn't used the Invoker.

In the log I...

Show that 314 is currently active on me, go to the Invoker, get spells from the Invoker, go back to my resting spot, spell myself up manually (314 was successfully cast during this), idle for a bit, check my spells (again, take note of 314 being active), and then log out.

I then return 12 hours later...

Show that 314 is currently active on me (take note of the time remaining) and then immediately attempt to cast 314 where it misfires.

<pre{{log2}}>
<nowiki>
You currently have the following active effects:
Spells:
Relieve Burden .......................... 01:12:39
Cooldowns:
No cooldowns found.
Buffs:
No buffs found.
Debuffs:
No debuffs found.
>invoker--- Lich: exec1 active.
--- Lich: go2 active.
[go2: input: 288]
[go2: ETA: 0:00:03 (16 rooms to move through)]
[go2]>south
[go2]>go arch
[go2]>go doors
[go2]>go steps
[Rone Academy, Alumni Hall West - 24407] (u217005)
The room bustles with the day-to-day affairs of the Academy. Clerics chant in somber tones to the west, nearly drowning out soft murmurings from the libary to the north. An excited babble comes from the south, where a line of eager young applicants awaits admittance to the Academy. You also see a marble arch, a stairway and a cluttered modwir desk with some stuff on it.
Obvious exits: north, south, west
>[Rone Academy, Alumni Hall - 15545] (u217004)
The sound of footsteps echoes off the stone floor of the main thoroughfare of the Academy, mixing with the soft voices of passing students. Portraits of graduates crowd the walls beneath the vaulted ceilings. A studious �white-robed novice� stands out from those passing as he stands before an intricately carved arch to the west. You also see some towering dreamstone doors, a carved arch, a polished silver plaque and a polished haon chest lined with velvet.
Obvious exits: east
>[go2]>go walkway
Your disk arrives, following you dutifully.
>[Academy, Front Porch - 14621] (u217003)
A pair of towering dreamstone-studded doors appear at the top of the marble steps, engraved with the seal of Rone Academy. Towering modwir trees shade the steps, making this a comfortable place to sit and relax. You also see some marble steps, some towering dreamstone doors, a colorful modwir cart with some stuff on it, a heavy slate blackboard and a large knothole in a nearby modwir tree.
Obvious paths: none
>[Rone Academy, Yard - 8773] (u217002)
The grounds outside the Academy proper are filled with small groups of students clustered around instructors. The buzz of animated discussion drifts through the air at all hours of the day. An imposing set of marble steps rises up to the Academy entrance, polished smooth by the constant footsteps of journeymen and visitors. You also see a white brick walkway and some marble steps.
Obvious paths: none
>[go2]>go path
[go2]>north
[Rone Academy, Brick Walkway - 8772] (u217001)
The white bricks of the walkway are scuffed by years of use. At one end of the walkway, Rone Academy rises toward the skies. A stone pillar off to one side marks the boundary of the Academy grounds. Beyond the pillar, the well-maintained yard of the Academy is bustling with activity. You also see a small gilded plaque, a shaded path leading back to the square and the yard.
Obvious paths: none
>[Wehnimer's, Erebor Square - 236] (u7301)
Ancient grey flagstones pave this quiet corner of the square, set around small gardens of herbs and flowers that provide splashes of faint color in the filtered moonlight. Polished wood benches arranged under the branches of a variety of overhanging trees offer a place for scholars and travelers to study and rest. You also see a shaded path leading up a rise behind the Museum.
Obvious paths: north
>[go2]>west
[go2]>west
[go2]>north
[Wehnimer's, Erebor Square - 235] (u7086)
This quiet corner resembles a calm island amid the bustling life of Wehnimer's Landing. At the west end, a low, broad dome is visible. In the center of the square, several benches of polished wood and smooth stone surround a sculpture that stands as a sentinel before the Wehnimer's Museum. Cast in bronze, the work imparts a sense of peace, calm and protection to the landscaped surroundings. A gold plaque mounted on a gracefully chiseled malachite base stands before it. You also see an ironwork gate and The Wehnimer's Museum.
Obvious paths: north, south, west
>[Wehnimer's, Erebor Square - 234] (u7085)
The dome of a large temple rises above this peaceful square, silhouetted against the starlit sky. The circular building is surrounded by marble porticos and teak columns, and a promenade leads to two pillars, through which the inner sanctum can be glimpsed. Priests and worshippers wander here and there, engaged in various rituals of devotion or study. A locked almsbox is securely bolted to an iron pole alongside the pillars. You also see a glowing white stone and a wrought iron gate.
Obvious paths: east, south, west
>[Wehnimer's, Cheridin Ave. - 233] (u7084)
Several small shops crowd along the street, which is composed of the back walls of the high buildings bordering the central square. Each storefront vies with the others for street space and the attention of the many travellers who pass through here. A few traders, hoping to take advantage of some late business attracted by the nearby temple, have set up stands and pushcarts filled with clothing, trinkets and souvenirs. You also see the clerics' shop.
Obvious paths: north, east
>[go2]>north
[Wehnimer's, Cheridin Ave. - 232] (u7073)
On the west side of this narrow stretch of Cheridin Avenue is the unlit back of the Moot Hall, and the dour building that houses the local constabulary and its jail looms along the other side of the street. To the southeast, a stone dome rises over the compound that surrounds the Landing's largest temple. Passers-by here move quickly north and south without much pause.
Obvious paths: north, south
>[go2]>west
[go2]>west
[go2]>south
[Wehnimer's, Cheridin Ave. - 231] (u7063)
The broad avenue intersects here with the narrower byway connecting to the bazaar to the west, where occasional sounds of distant revelry rise from the lamplit streets. Older wood and stone buildings, mostly small shops and offices with upstairs lodgings overlooking the street, predominate here.
Obvious paths: north, south, west
>[Wehnimer's, Penna St. - 230] (u7062)
The distant sounds of the merchants and tradesmen around the shops to the west are muted here. The cracked pavement, scattered cobblestones, and dirt drainage ditches along the side of the road form a not-so-gradual transition between the busier avenues of the main bazaar and the less frequented, humbler, and more unsavory sections of the town. You also see a long piece of cord, a long piece of cord, a long piece of cord, a tall black bulwark tower and a low stone gate.
Obvious paths: east, west
>[Town Square, East - 229] (u7048)
Here in the center of a broad plaza near the commercial area of the bazaar stands the impressive facade of the slate-roofed Moot Hall, where the citizens of Wehnimer's Landing hold various official, religious and social functions. Facing the square are some of the town's more prosperous shops, still doing business with the many customers who still frequent the streets at night. You also see a black imperial wagon with a glowing blue-white pylon on it, the Moot Hall and a large purple wooden barrel.
Obvious paths: north, east, south, west
>[go2]>west
[Town Square, Southeast - 282] (u7049)
Pedestrians and wagon traffic move off in all directions here, some going to the large intersection with South Ring Road, others crisscrossing the square via the bazaar. Men and women carrying neatly tied parcels or sacks and coils of rope slung over their arms emerge from the wooden facade of the old general store. You also see a dark-haired half-elven priestess, a mushy black door, the general store, a wide wooden stand with a coil of thick rope on it, a large wooden table with a small plate of steel on it, a long oak table with a long piece of cord on it and a muscular red-armored guard.
Obvious paths: north, south, west, northwest
>[go2]>south
[Town Square, Southwest - 284] (u7046)
This corner of the square seems somewhat subdued. Townsfolk pass through on their way to the shops, the bazaar, or the main well at the center of the square. Others hurry past, anxious to get home or go on about their business. You also see the Maikoya disk, a wood-sided shop and a cobblestone walkway leading up to a wrought iron gate.
Also here: Lady Valoura, Maikoya
Obvious paths: north, northeast, east, south, west
>[Town Square, Small Park - 288] (u7355)
A small, shaded park fills an old vacant lot behind a row of buildings, the bright lamplight from the square filtering through the passage to the north to illuminate the area with a soft glow. A weatherworn grey marble statue of a stocky human in pioneer's clothing overlooks the park, his stone hat encrusted by the gifts of decades of passing birds and his right hand half-upraised as if it once held some now-missing object. You also see the Korav disk, the Melvarson disk, the Banderling disk, the Ikeye disk, a vacillating glacier spirit that is flying around, a half-elven invoker garbed in colorful layered robes, some musty white gloves, the Theofanis disk, an irritable aurora spirit that is flying around, a tall black bulwark tower, a mass of charred building remnants and some ornate wrought iron benches.
Also here: Korav, Melvarson, Banderling, Ikeye, Theofanis
Obvious paths: north, south, west
>[go2: travel time: 0:00:01.792]
--- Lich: go2 has exited.
[exec1]>ask invoker for spells
Shaking back the layered sleeves of her multicolored robes, the invoker releases upon you a flurry of abjurations...

A light blue glow surrounds you.
You suddenly feel more powerful.
There is a dim flash around you.
You feel a strengthening of your internal fortitude.
There is a dim flash around you.
You feel a strengthening of your blood flow.
A deep blue glow surrounds you.
A misty halo surrounds you.
A dim aura surrounds you.
You begin to breathe more deeply.
A silvery luminescence surrounds you.
A bright luminescence surrounds you.
A brilliant luminescence surrounds you.
Glowing specks of light red energy begin to spin around you.
You feel much stronger.
You seem to blend into the surroundings better.
The air about you shimmers slightly.
You suddenly feel much more dextrous.
Your form blurs.
Opening your mind's eye to the progression of time, a myriad of possible future events fills your consciousness.
You feel your forehead pulse as your mind hardens to deter invading thoughts.
A whirl of spiritual energy streaks down from above, creating a dully illuminated mantle around your form.
>--- Lich: exec1 has exited.
>Your disk arrives, following you dutifully.
>academy--- Lich: go2 active.
[go2: input: 24473]
[go2: ETA: 0:00:12 (16 rooms to move through)]
[go2]>north
[Town Square, Southwest - 284] (u7046)
This corner of the square seems somewhat subdued. Townsfolk pass through on their way to the shops, the bazaar, or the main well at the center of the square. Others hurry past, anxious to get home or go on about their business. You also see the Maikoya disk, a wood-sided shop and a cobblestone walkway leading up to a wrought iron gate.
Also here: Lady Valoura, Maikoya
Obvious paths: north, northeast, east, south, west
>[go2]>east
[go2]>north
[go2]>east
[Town Square, Southeast - 282] (u7049)
Pedestrians and wagon traffic move off in all directions here, some going to the large intersection with South Ring Road, others crisscrossing the square via the bazaar. Men and women carrying neatly tied parcels or sacks and coils of rope slung over their arms emerge from the wooden facade of the old general store. You also see a dark-haired half-elven priestess, a mushy black door, the general store, a wide wooden stand with a coil of thick rope on it, a large wooden table with a small plate of steel on it, a long oak table with a long piece of cord on it and a muscular red-armored guard.
Obvious paths: north, south, west, northwest
>[Town Square, East - 229] (u7048)
Here in the center of a broad plaza near the commercial area of the bazaar stands the impressive facade of the slate-roofed Moot Hall, where the citizens of Wehnimer's Landing hold various official, religious and social functions. Facing the square are some of the town's more prosperous shops, still doing business with the many customers who still frequent the streets at night. You also see a black imperial wagon with a glowing blue-white pylon on it, the Moot Hall and a large purple wooden barrel.
Obvious paths: north, east, south, west
>[go2]>east
[Wehnimer's, Penna St. - 230] (u7062)
The distant sounds of the merchants and tradesmen around the shops to the west are muted here. The cracked pavement, scattered cobblestones, and dirt drainage ditches along the side of the road form a not-so-gradual transition between the busier avenues of the main bazaar and the less frequented, humbler, and more unsavory sections of the town. You also see a long piece of cord, a long piece of cord, a long piece of cord, a tall black bulwark tower and a low stone gate.
Obvious paths: east, west
>[go2]>south
[go2]>south
[Wehnimer's, Cheridin Ave. - 231] (u7063)
The broad avenue intersects here with the narrower byway connecting to the bazaar to the west, where occasional sounds of distant revelry rise from the lamplit streets. Older wood and stone buildings, mostly small shops and offices with upstairs lodgings overlooking the street, predominate here.
Obvious paths: north, south, west
>[go2]>east
[Wehnimer's, Cheridin Ave. - 232] (u7073)
On the west side of this narrow stretch of Cheridin Avenue is the unlit back of the Moot Hall, and the dour building that houses the local constabulary and its jail looms along the other side of the street. To the southeast, a stone dome rises over the compound that surrounds the Landing's largest temple. Passers-by here move quickly north and south without much pause.
Obvious paths: north, south
>[Wehnimer's, Cheridin Ave. - 233] (u7084)
Several small shops crowd along the street, which is composed of the back walls of the high buildings bordering the central square. Each storefront vies with the others for street space and the attention of the many travellers who pass through here. A few traders, hoping to take advantage of some late business attracted by the nearby temple, have set up stands and pushcarts filled with clothing, trinkets and souvenirs. You also see the clerics' shop.
Obvious paths: north, east
>[go2]>east
[go2]>south
[Wehnimer's, Erebor Square - 234] (u7085)
The dome of a large temple rises above this peaceful square, silhouetted against the starlit sky. The circular building is surrounded by marble porticos and teak columns, and a promenade leads to two pillars, through which the inner sanctum can be glimpsed. Priests and worshippers wander here and there, engaged in various rituals of devotion or study. A locked almsbox is securely bolted to an iron pole alongside the pillars. You also see a glowing white stone and a wrought iron gate.
Obvious paths: east, south, west
>[go2]>go path
[go2]>go yard
[Wehnimer's, Erebor Square - 235] (u7086)
This quiet corner resembles a calm island amid the bustling life of Wehnimer's Landing. At the west end, a low, broad dome is visible. In the center of the square, several benches of polished wood and smooth stone surround a sculpture that stands as a sentinel before the Wehnimer's Museum. Cast in bronze, the work imparts a sense of peace, calm and protection to the landscaped surroundings. A gold plaque mounted on a gracefully chiseled malachite base stands before it. You also see an ironwork gate and The Wehnimer's Museum.
Obvious paths: north, south, west
>[Wehnimer's, Erebor Square - 236] (u7301)
Ancient grey flagstones pave this quiet corner of the square, set around small gardens of herbs and flowers that provide splashes of faint color in the filtered moonlight. Polished wood benches arranged under the branches of a variety of overhanging trees offer a place for scholars and travelers to study and rest. You also see a shaded path leading up a rise behind the Museum.
Obvious paths: north
>[go2]>go steps
[Rone Academy, Brick Walkway - 8772] (u217001)
The white bricks of the walkway are scuffed by years of use. At one end of the walkway, Rone Academy rises toward the skies. A stone pillar off to one side marks the boundary of the Academy grounds. Beyond the pillar, the well-maintained yard of the Academy is bustling with activity. You also see a small gilded plaque, a shaded path leading back to the square and the yard.
Obvious paths: none
>[go2]>go doors
[go2]>go arch
[Rone Academy, Yard - 8773] (u217002)
The grounds outside the Academy proper are filled with small groups of students clustered around instructors. The buzz of animated discussion drifts through the air at all hours of the day. An imposing set of marble steps rises up to the Academy entrance, polished smooth by the constant footsteps of journeymen and visitors. You also see a white brick walkway and some marble steps.
Obvious paths: none
>[go2]>north
[Academy, Front Porch - 14621] (u217003)
A pair of towering dreamstone-studded doors appear at the top of the marble steps, engraved with the seal of Rone Academy. Towering modwir trees shade the steps, making this a comfortable place to sit and relax. You also see some marble steps, some towering dreamstone doors, a colorful modwir cart with some stuff on it, a heavy slate blackboard and a large knothole in a nearby modwir tree.
Obvious paths: none
>[Rone Academy, Alumni Hall - 15545] (u217004)
The sound of footsteps echoes off the stone floor of the main thoroughfare of the Academy, mixing with the soft voices of passing students. Portraits of graduates crowd the walls beneath the vaulted ceilings. A studious white-robed novice stands out from those passing as he stands before an intricately carved arch to the west. You also see some towering dreamstone doors, a carved arch, a polished silver plaque and a polished haon chest lined with velvet.
Obvious exits: east
>[Rone Academy, Alumni Hall West - 24407] (u217005)
The room bustles with the day-to-day affairs of the Academy. Clerics chant in somber tones to the west, nearly drowning out soft murmurings from the libary to the north. An excited babble comes from the south, where a line of eager young applicants awaits admittance to the Academy. You also see a marble arch, a stairway and a cluttered modwir desk with some stuff on it.
Obvious exits: north, south, west
>[Rone Academy, Elanthian Library - 24473] (u217006)
Ornately carved pillars punctuate each corner of this spacious library. Students wander amongst the bookshelf-lined walls, their footsteps muffled by worn tapestry rugs covering the wood floor. Moonlight filters in through a domed skylight in the ceiling, illuminating large antique tables. Wrought iron railing borders a wide descending staircase in the center of the room. On the north wall, an open doorway is flanked by an antique fel bookcase and a marble pedestal displaying a dark leather volume. You also see the Librarian Lyrae.
Obvious exits: south
>[go2: travel time: 0:00:01.707]
--- Lich: go2 has exited.
Your disk arrives, following you dutifully.
>/defensestance offensiveYou are now in an offensive stance.
remove my scalemailprep 203[Script]>You take your time removing your elven scalemail, noting any imperfections needing repair.
[Script]>The scent of freshly baked bread fills your senses as you prepare the Manna spell...
Your spell is ready.
summon custom[Script]>There is a bright flash and a sugar-dusted golden doughnut appears in the air, then falls into your left hand.
gobble my doughnutCast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
[Script]>You gobble down a big bite of your golden doughnut. Crisp on the outside and soft within, the doughnut is dusted with powdered sugar and dimpled with plump raisins. The taste of baking oils lingers upon the exterior.
gobble my doughnutThe spiritual nourishment has a replenishing effect upon you.
You have 2 bites left.
[Script]>You gobble down your golden doughnut in one enormous bite. Powdered sugar creates a thin glaze-like finish to the doughnut, the light substances coating the pallet almost instantaneously with its sweetness. The corresponding dense bite of dough is permeated with plump raisins, which burst with flavor.
The spiritual nourishment has a replenishing effect upon you.
That was the last of it!
[Script]> * Sarban joins the adventure.
* Oblerone joins the adventure.
incant 101 3A light blue glow surrounds your hands as you prepare a minor Spirit Warding...
Your spell is ready.
You make a complex gesture, increasing the potency of your spell.
A light blue glow surrounds you.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
[Script]>incant 102 3Silvery white motes of light form in your upturned palms. Building in intensity, the radiant sparks drift upwards as you prepare Spirit Barrier...
Your spell is ready.
You make a complex gesture, increasing the potency of your spell.
The air thickens and begins to swirl around you.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
[Script]>incant 103 3Silvery white motes of light form in your upturned palms. Building in intensity, the radiant sparks drift upwards as you prepare Spirit Defense...
Your spell is ready.
You make a complex gesture, increasing the potency of your spell.
You suddenly feel more powerful.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
[Script]>incant 104 3Silvery white motes of light form in your upturned palms. Building in intensity, the radiant sparks drift upwards as you prepare Disease Resistance...
Your spell is ready.
You make a complex gesture, increasing the potency of your spell.
There is a dim flash around you.
You feel a strengthening of your internal fortitude.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
[Script]>incant 105 3Silvery white motes of light form in your upturned palms. Building in intensity, the radiant sparks drift upwards as you prepare Poison Resistance...
Your spell is ready.
You make a complex gesture, increasing the potency of your spell.
There is a dim flash around you.
You feel a strengthening of your blood flow.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
[Script]> * Rnumber joins the adventure.
incant 107 3A deep blue glow surrounds your hands as you prepare a major Spirit Warding...
Your spell is ready.
You make a complex gesture, increasing the potency of your spell.
A deep blue glow surrounds you.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
[Script]> * Daerko joins the adventure.
incant 112 3Silvery white motes of light form in your upturned palms. Building in intensity, the radiant sparks drift upwards as you prepare Water Walking...
Your spell is ready.
You make a complex gesture, increasing the potency of your spell.
A misty halo surrounds you.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
[Script]>incant 120 3Silvery white motes of light form in your upturned palms. Building in intensity, the radiant sparks drift upwards as you prepare Lesser Shroud...
Your spell is ready.
You make a complex gesture, increasing the potency of your spell.
You suddenly feel a lot more powerful.
You are surrounded by a white light.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
[Script]> * Darenzen joins the adventure.
mana pulseAn invigorating rush of mana pulses through you.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
[Script]>incant 202 3Wisps of crimson light materialize in your palms, slowly floating into the air and disappearing as you chant the phrase for Spirit Shield...
Your spell is ready.
You make a complex gesture, increasing the potency of your spell.
A dim aura surrounds you.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
[Script]>incant 207 3Wisps of crimson light materialize in your palms, slowly floating into the air and disappearing as you chant the phrase for Purify Air...
Your spell is ready.
You make a complex gesture, increasing the potency of your spell.
You begin to breathe more deeply.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
[Script]> * Kysari joins the adventure.
incant 209 3Wisps of crimson light materialize in your palms, slowly floating into the air and disappearing as you chant the phrase for Untrammel...
Your spell is ready.
You make a complex gesture, increasing the potency of your spell.
Nothing happens.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
[Script]>incant 211 3Wisps of crimson light materialize in your palms, slowly floating into the air and disappearing as you chant the phrase for Bravery...
Your spell is ready.
You make a complex gesture, increasing the potency of your spell.
You feel more confident.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
[Script]>incant 215 3Wisps of crimson light materialize in your palms, slowly floating into the air and disappearing as you chant the phrase for Heroism...
Your spell is ready.
You make a complex gesture, increasing the potency of your spell.
A brilliant aura surrounds you and sinks into your skin. You feel charged with extra vitality.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
[Script]> * Dalgir joins the adventure.
incant 219 3You feel more refreshed.
[Script]>Wisps of crimson light materialize in your palms, slowly floating into the air and disappearing as you chant the phrase for Spell Shield...
Your spell is ready.
You make a complex gesture, increasing the potency of your spell.
An opalescent aura surrounds you.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
[Script]>incant 303 2Wisps of crimson light materialize in your palms, slowly floating into the air and disappearing as you chant the phrase for Prayer of Protection...
Your spell is ready.
You make a complex gesture, increasing the potency of your spell.
A pure white aura sparkles around you.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
[Script]>incant 106Silvery white motes of light form in your upturned palms. Building in intensity, the radiant sparks drift upwards as you prepare Spirit Fog...
Your spell is ready.
You gesture.
A dense fog gathers around you and soon fills the room. Wispy grey tendrils writhe as they climb around your form until you are completely enshrouded in the mist. You feel confident that no one can see you behind your mask of fog.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
[Script]> * Kneo joins the adventure.
sign of wrackingYou shudder as your life force is torn and reshaped!
incant 307 2You feel drained!
[Script]>Wisps of crimson light materialize in your palms, slowly floating into the air and disappearing as you chant the phrase for Benediction...
Your spell is ready.
You come out of hiding.
You make a complex gesture, increasing the potency of your spell.
A pearlescent emanation extends outward to encompass you and those nearby.
Your spirit is bolstered by a great sense of faith and conviction.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
[Script]>incant 310 2Wisps of crimson light materialize in your palms, slowly floating into the air and disappearing as you chant the phrase for Warding Sphere...
Your spell is ready.
You make a complex gesture, increasing the potency of your spell.
A wispy tendril of pure magic reaches out to encircle you and those nearby.
You feel more secure basking in the glow of divine protection.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
[Script]>incant 313 2Wisps of crimson light materialize in your palms, slowly floating into the air and disappearing as you chant the phrase for Prayer...
Your spell is ready.
You make a complex gesture, increasing the potency of your spell.
Turning your thoughts inward, you ask for the blessing of your deity to protect you. A sense of faith rewarded settles into your heart, and you sense that your prayer has been granted.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
[Script]>incant 314 2Wisps of crimson light materialize in your palms, slowly floating into the air and disappearing as you chant the phrase for Relieve Burden...
Your spell is ready.
You make a complex gesture, increasing the potency of your spell.
A glittering golden collection bowl materializes above you. It slowly tips upside down, causing a shower of silver sparks to rain down upon your body, then vanishes.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
[Script]>incant 319 2wear my scalemailWisps of crimson light materialize in your palms, slowly floating into the air and disappearing as you chant the phrase for Soul Ward...
Your spell is ready.
You make a complex gesture, increasing the potency of your spell.
Drawing deep from the well of your soul, you summon forth a thread of your essence and weave it into an evanescent shield to shroud your form.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>You take your time putting on your elven scalemail, pausing to admire the perfect fit and design of the leather.
Roundtime: 12 sec.
>With a sudden ferocity, your leather hiking boots erupt with a savage growl. A harsh vibration runs through them, causing a dark emerald light to sink into your skin as the untamed wildness spreads into your body!
You feel like you've temporarily lost some of your strength, making defending difficult.
> * Aidamo joins the adventure.
You hear the faint thoughts of [Towncrier]-ESP echo in your mind:
Newsby: "|WYROM'S WORDS| PM Wyrom pulls back the curtain and closes out the staff compensation questions with straightforward talk. He ends these disclosures with a request to move past the issue and said, "You now know more than you should." And Wow, that's an understatement. Details: https://bit.ly/3l0VFjA ."
You hear the faint thoughts of [TownCrier]-GSIV:Newsby echo in your mind:
"[WYROM'S WORDS] PM Wyrom pulls back the curtain and closes out the staff compensation questions with straightforward talk. He ends these disclosures with a request to move past the issue and said, "You now know more than you should." And Wow, that's an understatement. Details: https://bit.ly/3l0VFjA "
You feel mana pulse within the area, but it does not reach you.
You feel less drained.
>The world rights itself as your strength returns in a rush, the untamed wildness ebbing from your body.
>You feel more refreshed.
> * Sorrowen joins the adventure.
The Kiriane disk arrives in the room, shivering violently. It then disintegrates.
> * Zilmon joins the adventure.
* Aylard joins the adventure.
* Athrel joins the adventure.
* Riphos joins the adventure.
* Arctal joins the adventure.
* Artiminus joins the adventure.
You feel more refreshed.
> * Valwyn joins the adventure.
You feel more refreshed.
> * Akaari joins the adventure.
You feel more refreshed.
> * Okeni joins the adventure.
You feel less drained.
> * Okeni returns home from a hard day of adventuring.
* Filidhe returns home from a hard day of adventuring.
You feel more refreshed.
>You feel at full magical power again.
>You hear the faint thoughts of [Towncrier]-ESP echo in your mind:
Newsby: "|EVENT-WL| Do you want to take a RYSK? Join RYSK for a RYSKy Four Day Spring Festival, during their Muster, at 9pm at the Rusty Cutlass, in Landing. The Festival starts on Thursday, March 16th, and goes through Sunday, March 19th. Join the fun on Thursday for Tales, Friday for Duels, Saturday for Darts, and on Sunday, they close out their Spring Festival with a RYSKy Mixer."
You hear the faint thoughts of [TownCrier]-GSIV:Newsby echo in your mind:
"[EVENT-WL] Do you want to take a RYSK? Join RYSK for a RYSKy Four Day Spring Festival, during their Muster, at 9pm at the Rusty Cutlass, in Landing. The Festival starts on Thursday, March 16th, and goes through Sunday, March 19th. Join the fun on Thursday for Tales, Friday for Duels, Saturday for Darts, and on Sunday, they close out their Spring Festival with a RYSKy Mixer."
* Fugarack joins the adventure.
* Cehlel joins the adventure.
You feel more refreshed.
> * Xiomar returns home from a hard day of adventuring.
* Arlerathen joins the adventure.
* Yareena joins the adventure.
* Ragadin joins the adventure.
* Lagavullin returns home from a hard day of adventuring.
* Yareena returns home from a hard day of adventuring.
* Zalahstar returns home from a hard day of adventuring.
* Geovekn joins the adventure.
* Jaffrey returns home from a hard day of adventuring.
You feel less drained.
> * Oblerone returns home from a hard day of adventuring.
You feel more refreshed.
> * Mandrill joins the adventure.
* Cojen joins the adventure.
* Kneight joins the adventure.
You feel more refreshed.
You do not feel drained anymore.
>loo[Rone Academy, Elanthian Library - 24473] (u217006)
Ornately carved pillars punctuate each corner of this spacious library. Students wander amongst the bookshelf-lined walls, their footsteps muffled by worn tapestry rugs covering the wood floor. Moonlight filters in through a domed skylight in the ceiling, illuminating large antique tables. Wrought iron railing borders a wide descending staircase in the center of the room. On the north wall, an open doorway is flanked by an antique fel bookcase and a marble pedestal displaying a dark leather volume. You also see the cherrywood Arianiss disk etched with lotus blossoms and the Librarian Lyrae.
Obvious exits: south
>exp Level: 100 Fame: 699,404,104
Experience: 20,011,454 Field Exp: 0/992
Ascension Exp: 1,365,656 Recent Deaths: 1
Total Exp: 21,377,110 Death's Sting: None
Long-Term Exp: 0 Deeds: 185
Exp to next TP: 1,046 Exp to next ATP: 34,344
PTPs/MTPs: 15/0 ATPs: 0

Your mind is as clear as a bell.
>spell activeYou currently have the following active effects:
Spells:
Spirit Warding I ........................ 04:00:56
Spirit Barrier .......................... 04:01:00
Spirit Defense .......................... 04:01:04
Disease Resistance ...................... 04:01:08
Poison Resistance ....................... 04:01:12
Spirit Warding II ....................... 04:01:16
Water Walking ........................... 04:01:20
Lesser Shroud ........................... 04:01:24
Spirit Shield ........................... 04:01:32
Manna ................................... 00:15:52
Purify Air .............................. 04:01:36
Bravery ................................. 04:01:44
Heroism ................................. 04:01:48
Spell Shield ............................ 04:01:52
Prayer of Protection .................... 04:01:56
Benediction ............................. 04:02:04
Warding Sphere .......................... 04:02:08
Prayer .................................. 04:02:12
Relieve Burden .......................... 04:02:16
Soul Ward ............................... 04:02:20
Elemental Defense I ..................... 04:00:46
Elemental Defense II .................... 04:00:46
Elemental Defense III ................... 04:00:46
Thurfel's Ward .......................... 04:00:46
Strength ................................ 04:00:46
Natural Colors .......................... 04:00:46
Resist Elements ......................... 04:00:46
Mobility ................................ 04:00:46
Mass Blur ............................... 04:00:46
Foresight ............................... 04:00:46
Mindward ................................ 04:00:46
Mantle of Faith ......................... 01:50:46
Cooldowns:
No cooldowns found.
Buffs:
No buffs found.
Debuffs:
No debuffs found.
>resourceHealth: 160/160 Mana: 507/507 Stamina: 117/117 Spirit: 11/11
Devotion: 50,000/50,000 (Weekly) 100,000/200,000 (Total)
Suffused Devotion: 23
>exit
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[Rone Academy, Elanthian Library - 24473] (u217006)
Ornately carved pillars punctuate each corner of this spacious library. Students wander amongst the bookshelf-lined walls, their footsteps muffled by worn tapestry rugs covering the wood floor. Sunlight filters in through a domed skylight in the ceiling, illuminating large antique tables. Wrought iron railing borders a wide descending staircase in the center of the room. On the north wall, an open doorway is flanked by an antique fel bookcase and a marble pedestal displaying a dark leather volume. You also see the Librarian Lyrae.
Obvious exits: south
> * Fourthwell joins the adventure.
Kiriane just arrived.
* Kiriane joins the adventure.
>--- Lich: repository active.
[infomon: done]
>[repository: map database is up-to-date; last updated by Xanlin at 2023-03-02 16:50:07 -0800]
[repository: done]
[repository: scripts are up-to-date]
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--- Lich: alias active.
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* WARNING: Wizard FE support in ;recolor-custom is EXPERIMENTAL.
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--- Welcome to LNet. I think so, Brain, but calling it pu-pu platter? Huh, what were they thinking?

* Gailiana joins the adventure.
>You hear the faint thoughts of [help]-GSIV:Vatica echo in your mind:
"Go to the WL outside gate map, right click on the map and select tags"
* Jouniper returns home from a hard day of adventuring.
* Lenfal joins the adventure.
spell activeYou currently have the following active effects:
Spells:
Spirit Warding I ........................ 04:00:21
Spirit Barrier .......................... 04:00:25
Spirit Defense .......................... 04:00:29
Disease Resistance ...................... 04:00:33
Poison Resistance ....................... 04:00:37
Spirit Warding II ....................... 04:00:41
Water Walking ........................... 04:00:45
Lesser Shroud ........................... 04:00:49
Spirit Shield ........................... 04:00:57
Manna ................................... 00:15:17
Purify Air .............................. 04:01:01
Bravery ................................. 04:01:09
Heroism ................................. 04:01:13
Spell Shield ............................ 04:01:17
Prayer of Protection .................... 04:01:21
Benediction ............................. 04:01:29
Warding Sphere .......................... 04:01:33
Prayer .................................. 04:01:37
Relieve Burden .......................... 04:01:41
Soul Ward ............................... 04:01:45
Elemental Defense I ..................... 04:00:11
Elemental Defense II .................... 04:00:11
Elemental Defense III ................... 04:00:11
Thurfel's Ward .......................... 04:00:11
Strength ................................ 04:00:11
Natural Colors .......................... 04:00:11
Resist Elements ......................... 04:00:11
Mobility ................................ 04:00:11
Mass Blur ............................... 04:00:11
Foresight ............................... 04:00:11
Mindward ................................ 04:00:11
Mantle of Faith ......................... 01:50:11
Cooldowns:
No cooldowns found.
Buffs:
No buffs found.
Debuffs:
No debuffs found.
> * Lenfal returns home from a hard day of adventuring.
Kiriane joins your group.
Kiriane looks empowered.
Kiriane basks in the glow of the sphere.
>You hear the faint thoughts of [help]-GSIV:Vatica echo in your mind:
"choose sassafras leaf.. will show you all the rooms"
* Roegoth returns home from a hard day of adventuring.
* Attalynx returns home from a hard day of adventuring.
* Haella joins the adventure.
incant 314Wisps of crimson light materialize in your palms, slowly floating into the air and disappearing as you chant the phrase for Relieve Burden...
Your spell is ready.
You gesture.
Your spell misfires.
Strands of translucent mana swirl about you, creating a protective barrier.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
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== The Mystery of Tsalin's Manna Bread ==

For the longest time Tsalin has been dealing with an issue where his manna bread falls off randomly, sometimes immediately after being eaten. What follows is a log of this happening to me. Take notice of me applying manna bread, the duration per spell active, and it immediately falling with no interaction.

<pre{{log2}}>
[Icemule Trace, Town Center - 2300, 4042150]
The center of the slumbering frontier town is overseen by the broken ice statue of a mule, which rises from the surrounding snow on a plinth of cold dark stone. The stars' brilliance winks through the ice, casting prismatic glints of light over a scattering of halflings. Some chatter quietly by a colorful silver-bound barrel emblazoned with a row of tiny grey penguins, while others stargaze on colorful cloaks spread out across the hard ground. Near the comfort of a smooth dark stone bench, a roaring bonfire crackles merrily, lending its warmth and illumination to the surroundings. You also see the Zahhak disk, the Fahlo disk, an insouciant astral spirit that is flying around, a king penguin, a vine-carved cherrywood cart with some stuff on it, a penguin-carved raffle stand with some stuff on it, an ice-block raffle table with some stuff on it, a frosty white lantern-topped pole draped with a large banner, a blue and white pavilion and a blued steel wastebin.
Also here: Sensou, Lkyl who is sitting, Ansellie who is sitting, Town Councilor Fahlo who is kneeling, Ineffable who is sitting, Bellesue
Obvious paths: north, east, south, west

>look fah

You see Town Councilor Fahlo the Rescuer.
He appears to be a Human from Torre.
He is average height. He appears to be immature. He has dark eyes and olive skin. He has short, white hair.
He has a crude glaes pipe clenched between his teeth.
He has an old battle scar across his chest, an old battle scar across his abdominal area, an old battle scar across his back, and some old neck wounds.
He is wearing a pure white sack, an old key, a dark wool hooded cloak, a fiery red iceblossom, a duffel bag, some marred leather armor, a rugged linen shirt, a large gold ring, a dark leather pouch, some dark wool trousers, and some rough leather boots.

> * Darant returns home from a hard day of adventuring.

Concierge Opalina's group just arrived.

>Lord Barjin just arrived.

>Lord Barjin just went east.

>whisper fahl I hear all the cool Councilor's are eating manna bread.. mind if I get some?

You quietly whisper to Fahlo, "I hear all the cool Councilor's are eating manna bread.. mind if I get some?"

>You hear the faint thoughts of [Merchant]-GSIV:Kreap echo in your mind:
"Selling a 6x greatshield, ttm with an offer."

Concierge Opalina's group just went east.

> * Mantz joins the adventure.

Lord Barjin just arrived.

> * Cragmier returns home from a hard day of adventuring.

Lord Barjin just went south.

> * Fierambras returns home from a hard day of adventuring.

* Dreanor -custom- joins the adventure.

* Dayzed -custom- joins the adventure.

* Korvann joins the adventure.

Sensou just left.

> * Beatrikx joins the adventure.

Fahlo traces a sign while petitioning the spirits for cognition...

>There is a bright flash and some manna bread appears in the air, then falls into Fahlo's right hand.

>Fahlo offers you some manna bread. Click ACCEPT to accept the offer or DECLINE to decline it. The offer will expire in 30 seconds.

>accept

You accept Fahlo's offer and are now holding some manna bread.

>grin

You grin.

>eat my bread

You take a bite of your manna bread. Rich and hearty, the bread holds an earthy flavor that is accented by the crunch of oats.
The spiritual nourishment has a replenishing effect upon you.
You have 4 bites left.

>eat my bread

eat my bread

You take a bite of your manna bread. Rich and hearty, the bread holds an earthy flavor that is accented by the crunch of oats.
The spiritual nourishment has a replenishing effect upon you.
You have 3 bites left.

>eat my bread

You take a bite of your manna bread.
The spiritual nourishment has a replenishing effect upon you.
You have 2 bites left.

>eat my bread

You take a bite of your manna bread.
The spiritual nourishment has a replenishing effect upon you.
You have one bite left.

>eat my bread

You take a bite of your manna bread. Rich and hearty, the bread holds an earthy flavor that is accented by the crunch of oats.
The spiritual nourishment has a replenishing effect upon you.
That was the last of it!

>What were you referring to?

>Fahlo grins at you.

>spell active

You currently have the following active effects:
Spells:
Spirit Warding I ........................ 03:28:07
Spirit Defense .......................... 01:18:07
Disease Resistance ...................... 03:28:07
Poison Resistance ....................... 03:28:07
Spirit Warding II ....................... 03:28:07
Water Walking ........................... 03:28:07
Spirit Shield ........................... 01:18:07
Manna ................................... 00:24:57
Purify Air .............................. 01:18:07
Elemental Defense I ..................... 03:28:07
Elemental Defense II .................... 03:28:07
Elemental Defense III ................... 03:28:07
Thurfel's Ward .......................... 03:28:07
Strength ................................ 03:28:07
Natural Colors .......................... 03:28:07
Resist Elements ......................... 03:28:07
Mobility ................................ 03:28:07
Mass Blur ............................... 03:28:07
Foresight ............................... 03:28:07
Mindward ................................ 03:28:07
Mantle of Faith ......................... 01:18:07
Cooldowns:
No cooldowns found.
Buffs:
No buffs found.
Debuffs:
No debuffs found.

>The replenishing effect fades, but you are left with a feeling of well-being.

>You hear the faint thoughts of [Help]-ESP echo in your mind:
Nhadrin: "What is a bound crystal."

blink

You blink.

> * Obsalyn -custom- joins the adventure.

Fahlo raises an eyebrow.
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== The Curious Case of Brisker's Cove (port location) ==

'''TLDR: The OSA port for Brisker's Cove is too far south in game.'''

Look at the below map. Take notice of where Solhaven, Brisker's Cove, and River's Rest are. Brisker's Cove is in the middle of Solhaven and River's Rest. Also take notice of the borders for Seareach.

[[Image: Tura map.jpg]]

Look at the below map. Take notice of where Solhaven, Brisker's Cove, Fairport, Maelstrom Bay, and River's Rest are. For the most part, Brisker's Cove is in the middle of Solhaven and River's Rest. Further, take notice of where Fairport is in relation to River's Rest and Maelstrom Bay. Of note, there's no indication of just how large Maelstrom Bay is.

[[Image: Elanthia.jpg]]

Now, finally, look at the below map. This is a player created OSA map (created by me). However, the base "ocean squares" of the map are from GM Retser's OSA map which, as best as can be done, faithfully follows the coastline design of the various maps of Elanith. For the purposes of this, ignore the locations of Brisker's Cove and Fairport on the below map.

The X is where the Brisker's Cove OSA port is currently located. It's most definitely not in the middle of Solhaven and River's Rest. Take notice of the size of Maelstrom Bay and how you have the Viridian Sea and Kestral (e) Sea on the way to Solhaven.

[[Image: The Curious Case of Brisker's Cove (port location).png]]

Based on these images I believe that the Brisker's Cove OSA port is too far south. A solution to this issue is that the ocean rooms are not all the same size. The ocean rooms for Kestrel Sea and Viridian Sea could be very tiny while the ocean rooms for Maelstrom Bay could be extremely large. This solves the distance issue, but creates a very warped map. This would also create a size for Maelstrom Bay of it going halfway to Solhaven from River's Rest.

I believe, however, that the proper solution is to move the Brisker's Cove OSA port farther north (the corner of the Kestrel Sea seems like a good spot).

== Ignore This ==