Ambush/saved posts - Revision history

GARGADON at 22:12, 19 January 2022

2022-01-19T22:12:40Z

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			{{saved-post
			\| category = Hunting and Combat
			\| topic = Developer's Corner
			\| messagenum = 1338
			\| author = GS4-NAIJIN
			\| date = 2020-07-22T12:17
			\| subject = Crit Immunity and Eye Shots
			}}
			Hey all,

			A bug fix has been rolled for crit immune critters so that they work properly (more details below). The critters affected primarily come up during Duskruin and Invasions, so you shouldn't notice much of a change in normal hunting. In addition, targeting an eye that is missing will now automatically target the other eye. If both eyes are missing, the chest will be targeted as before.

			Crit Immunity Details:

			There has been a long-standing bug where crit immunity has been ignored when a wound has a secondary damage location. This would cause multiple rank 3's to stack up on a target that was supposed to be immune to crit kills and would fatally kill them. For example, a rank 3 crit on the left eye will produce a rank 3 crit on the head as an alternate wound. A follow up rank 3 crit on the right eye would also produce a rank 3 crit on the head. This results in two rank 3's on the head and, due to how wound stacking works, would result in a finalized rank 4 crit which is fatal when targeting the head, neck, abs, chest, or nerves.

			- Naijin

	==1125 and aiming==		==1125 and aiming==

WOMBATSANDERS: Naijin discord quote on EBP/ambushing

2022-01-14T21:47:19Z

Naijin discord quote on EBP/ambushing

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			{{saved-discord-post
			\| messagelink = https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/930938808709578822/931596901873233920
			\| author = GS4-NAIJIN
			\| date = 01/14/2022
			}}
			EBP of the target is reduced by 50% when ambushing.

VANKRASN39: format

2017-08-07T15:35:36Z

format

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	Change: The way the Damage Severity Weighting is calculated has been changed. Previous system ranged from 0 to DW (Damage Weighting) dependent on the weapon's DF. Now it ranges from half DW to DW dependant on the weapon's DF. This will raise the adder for attacks from hiding or while [[Invisibility (916)\|invisible]] (assuming ambush training) and for damage weighted weapons.		Change: The way the Damage Severity Weighting is calculated has been changed. Previous system ranged from 0 to DW (Damage Weighting) dependent on the weapon's DF. Now it ranges from half DW to DW dependant on the weapon's DF. This will raise the adder for attacks from hiding or while [[Invisibility (916)\|invisible]] (assuming ambush training) and for damage weighted weapons.

	~~<nowiki>==~~Addition: AMBUSH verb that permit aimed attacks.~~==</nowiki>~~		'''Addition: AMBUSH verb that permit aimed attacks.

	* Adds 3 seconds to [[Roundtime\|Round Time]] Calculations, prior to Truncation. Note, since RT's are truncated at 5 seconds on the low end for attack and ambush, aiming at a target may not always add 3 seconds to the Round Time the AMBUSH user sees.		* Adds 3 seconds to [[Roundtime\|Round Time]] Calculations, prior to Truncation. Note, since RT's are truncated at 5 seconds on the low end for attack and ambush, aiming at a target may not always add 3 seconds to the Round Time the AMBUSH user sees.
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	==~~Re:~~ Playing my rogue again, 07/05/2008==		==Playing my rogue again, 07/05/2008==
	{{saved-post		{{saved-post
	\| category = Rogues		\| category = Rogues
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	~~<i>~~>If so this is a serious change from before. When did he post that? I'd be curious to know when it took place.~~</i>~~		''>If so this is a serious change from before. When did he post that? I'd be curious to know when it took place.

	[[Perception]] hasn't ever helped with aiming melee weapons (though it does help with aiming ranged weapons). The only skills involved have been [[Ambush]] and [[Combat Maneuvers]] since the AMBUSH verb was created.		[[Perception]] hasn't ever helped with aiming melee weapons (though it does help with aiming ranged weapons). The only skills involved have been [[Ambush]] and [[Combat Maneuvers]] since the AMBUSH verb was created.
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	- Consigliere Ildran, Shizlock Holmesplice		- Consigliere Ildran, Shizlock Holmesplice

	==~~Re:~~ Ildran, Concerning Ambushing, 07/06/2008==		==Ildran, Concerning Ambushing, 07/06/2008==
	{{saved-post		{{saved-post
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	~~<i>~~>Ildran, concerning ambushing, are damage weighted weapons still harder to aim than regular weapons?~~</i>~~		''>Ildran, concerning ambushing, are damage weighted weapons still harder to aim than regular weapons?

	No, there's no penalty for aiming [[Weighting\|weighted]] weapons.		No, there's no penalty for aiming [[Weighting\|weighted]] weapons.
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	- Consigliere Ildran, Shizlock Holmesplice		- Consigliere Ildran, Shizlock Holmesplice

	==~~Re:~~ Aiming==		==Aiming==
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	~~<i>~~>Could someone remind me what skills factor into aiming from the open? - Metadi~~</i>~~		''>Could someone remind me what skills factor into aiming from the open? - Metadi

	The Ambush and [[Combat Maneuvers]] skills factor into aimed hurled attacks from the open. Ambush skill alone is taken into account when aiming from hiding.		The Ambush and [[Combat Maneuvers]] skills factor into aimed hurled attacks from the open. Ambush skill alone is taken into account when aiming from hiding.
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	==~~Re:~~ 1125 and aiming.==		==1125 and aiming==
	{{saved-post		{{saved-post
	\| category = ~~[[Empath]]s~~		\| category = Empaths
	\| topic = Empath Spells		\| topic = Empath Spells
	\| messagenum = 4138		\| messagenum = 4138
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	\| subject = Re: 1125 and aiming.		\| subject = Re: 1125 and aiming.
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	~~<i>~~>>I thought minor eye scars interefered with called shots?~~</i>~~		''>>I thought minor eye scars interefered with called shots?

	Nope.		Nope.

	~~<nowiki>=~~ - GM Oscuro ~~- =</nowiki>~~		- GM Oscuro

	Rogue Team<br>
	[[Cleric]]/Empath Team

	==Creature Size and Aiming==		==Creature Size and Aiming==
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	}}		}}
	~~<i>~~>How about changing it? Like I said, an aim penalty and/or dodge penalty seem fine for small critters, but not an entirely "you can't aim at it" penalty. -Grendeg~~</i>~~		''>How about changing it? Like I said, an aim penalty and/or dodge penalty seem fine for small critters, but not an entirely "you can't aim at it" penalty. -Grendeg

	AMBUSHing has been modified to no longer outright prevent attempts on targets smaller and shorter than the attacker. Instead, a penalty is applied based on the relative size difference.		AMBUSHing has been modified to no longer outright prevent attempts on targets smaller and shorter than the attacker. Instead, a penalty is applied based on the relative size difference.
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	~~<i>~~>Does a higher ambush skill lessen this penalty at all? Or is it a flat penalty regardless of one's training in ambush? Either way though, this is an awesome update. -Razcor~~</i>~~		''>Does a higher ambush skill lessen this penalty at all? Or is it a flat penalty regardless of one's training in ambush? Either way though, this is an awesome update. -Razcor

	The penalty is flat (based on size difference) and cannot be trained away.		The penalty is flat (based on size difference) and cannot be trained away.

VANKRASN39: VANKRASN39 moved page Ambush (saved post) to Ambush/saved posts: saved post reorg

2017-03-16T21:37:14Z

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MILQUETOAST: /* Creature Size and Aiming */

2009-10-10T13:26:58Z

Creature Size and Aiming

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	AMBUSHing has been modified to no longer outright prevent attempts on targets smaller and shorter than the attacker. Instead, a penalty is applied based on the relative size difference.		AMBUSHing has been modified to no longer outright prevent attempts on targets smaller and shorter than the attacker. Instead, a penalty is applied based on the relative size difference.

			-M.

			{{saved-post
			\| category = Hunting and Combat
			\| topic = Developer's Corner -- Hunting & Combat
			\| messagenum = 8130
			\| author = GS4-MESTYS
			\| date = 10/9/2009 11:06:05 PM
			\| subject = Re: Ambushing and Creature Size
			}}
			<i>>Does a higher ambush skill lessen this penalty at all? Or is it a flat penalty regardless of one's training in ambush? Either way though, this is an awesome update. -Razcor</i>

			The penalty is flat (based on size difference) and cannot be trained away.

	-M.		-M.

MILQUETOAST: Creature size and ambushing

2009-10-10T12:22:39Z

Creature size and ambushing

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	Rogue Team<br>		Rogue Team<br>
	[[Cleric]]/Empath Team		[[Cleric]]/Empath Team

			==Creature Size and Aiming==
			{{saved-post
			\| category = Hunting and Combat
			\| topic = Developer's Corner -- Hunting & Combat
			\| messagenum = 8119
			\| author = GS4-MESTYS
			\| date = 10/9/2009 9:39:19 PM
			\| subject = Re: Ambushing and Creature Size
			}}
			<i>>How about changing it? Like I said, an aim penalty and/or dodge penalty seem fine for small critters, but not an entirely "you can't aim at it" penalty. -Grendeg</i>

			AMBUSHing has been modified to no longer outright prevent attempts on targets smaller and shorter than the attacker. Instead, a penalty is applied based on the relative size difference.

			-M.

MILQUETOAST: /* Re: Ildran, Concerning Ambushing, 07/06/2008 */

2009-08-31T12:11:43Z

Re: Ildran, Concerning Ambushing, 07/06/2008

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	- Consigliere Ildran, Shizlock Holmesplice		- Consigliere Ildran, Shizlock Holmesplice

			==Re: Aiming==
			{{saved-post
			\| category = Hunting and Combat
			\| topic = Thrown Weapon Combat
			\| messagenum = 4602
			\| author = GS4-MESTYS
			\| date = 8/26/2009 6:14:34 PM
			\| subject = Re: Aiming
			}}
			<i>>Could someone remind me what skills factor into aiming from the open? - Metadi</i>

			The Ambush and [[Combat Maneuvers]] skills factor into aimed hurled attacks from the open. Ambush skill alone is taken into account when aiming from hiding.

			-M.

			==Re: 1125 and aiming.==
			{{saved-post
			\| category = [[Empath]]s
			\| topic = Empath Spells
			\| messagenum = 4138
			\| author = GS4-OSCURO
			\| date = 8/29/2009 10:08:49 PM
			\| subject = Re: 1125 and aiming.
			}}
			<i>>>I thought minor eye scars interefered with called shots?</i>

			Nope.

			<nowiki>= - GM Oscuro - =</nowiki>

			Rogue Team<br>
			[[Cleric]]/Empath Team

MILQUETOAST at 14:11, 18 August 2009

2009-08-18T14:11:27Z

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			==Re: Playing my rogue again, 07/05/2008==
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			==Re: Ildran, Concerning Ambushing, 07/06/2008==
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	IOI: 4		IOI: 4

MILQUETOAST: Added links

2009-04-08T01:03:57Z

Added links

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	One change, one addition:		One change, one addition:

	Change: The way the Damage Severity Weighting is calculated has been changed. Previous system ranged from 0 to DW (Damage Weighting) dependent on the weapon's DF. Now it ranges from half DW to DW dependant on the weapon's DF. This will raise the adder for attacks from hiding or while invisible (assuming ambush training) and for damage weighted weapons.		Change: The way the Damage Severity Weighting is calculated has been changed. Previous system ranged from 0 to DW (Damage Weighting) dependent on the weapon's DF. Now it ranges from half DW to DW dependant on the weapon's DF. This will raise the adder for attacks from hiding or while [[Invisibility (916)\|invisible]] (assuming ambush training) and for damage weighted weapons.

	==Addition: AMBUSH verb that permit aimed attacks.==		<nowiki>==Addition: AMBUSH verb that permit aimed attacks.==</nowiki>

	* Adds 3 seconds to Round Time Calculations, prior to Truncation. Note, since RT's are truncated at 5 seconds on the low end for attack and ambush, aiming at a target may not always add 3 seconds to the Round Time the AMBUSH user sees.		* Adds 3 seconds to [[Roundtime\|Round Time]] Calculations, prior to Truncation. Note, since RT's are truncated at 5 seconds on the low end for attack and ambush, aiming at a target may not always add 3 seconds to the Round Time the AMBUSH user sees.

	* Aim at any body part that can be injured, eyes, legs, hands, et cetera. Different areas have different difficulty modifiers when aimed at.		* Aim at any body part that can be injured, eyes, legs, hands, et cetera. Different areas have different difficulty modifiers when aimed at.
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	* Each weapon type has an aiming modifier associated with it. The highest bonus is for daggers, the greatest penalty is for the lance.		* Each weapon type has an aiming modifier associated with it. The highest bonus is for daggers, the greatest penalty is for the lance.

	* Some size restrictions play a role, no ~~halflings~~ aiming shots at a golem's neck unless the golem is not standing.		* Some size restrictions play a role, no [[halfling]]s aiming shots at a golem's neck unless the golem is not standing.

	* Works exactly like ATTACK if no area on the target is specified for an aimed attack. This includes final Round Time evaluation.		* Works exactly like ATTACK if no area on the target is specified for an aimed attack. This includes final Round Time evaluation.
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	<i>>If so this is a serious change from before. When did he post that? I'd be curious to know when it took place.</i>		<i>>If so this is a serious change from before. When did he post that? I'd be curious to know when it took place.</i>

	Perception hasn't ever helped with aiming melee weapons (though it does help with aiming ranged weapons). The only skills involved have been Ambush and Combat Maneuvers since the AMBUSH verb was created.		[[Perception]] hasn't ever helped with aiming melee weapons (though it does help with aiming ranged weapons). The only skills involved have been [[Ambush]] and [[Combat Maneuvers]] since the AMBUSH verb was created.

	- Consigliere Ildran, Shizlock Holmesplice		- Consigliere Ildran, Shizlock Holmesplice
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	<i>>Ildran, concerning ambushing, are damage weighted weapons still harder to aim than regular weapons?</i>		<i>>Ildran, concerning ambushing, are damage weighted weapons still harder to aim than regular weapons?</i>

	No, there's no penalty for aiming weighted weapons.		No, there's no penalty for aiming [[Weighting\|weighted]] weapons.

	<i>>And does Parry still not play a role in the ability to target an area?</i>		<i>>And does Parry still not play a role in the ability to target an area?</i>