Category talk:Basic Mechanics - Revision history

ZHOUY1: response

2016-11-08T00:19:00Z

response

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	Okay, mechanics are all gone from this page, did you want to put that chart somewhere else? I'd like to get rid of this page all together. [[User:VANKRASN39\|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39\|talk]]) 18:10, 7 November 2016 (CST)		Okay, mechanics are all gone from this page, did you want to put that chart somewhere else? I'd like to get rid of this page all together. [[User:VANKRASN39\|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39\|talk]]) 18:10, 7 November 2016 (CST)
			:Feel free to delete anything here. [[User:ZHOUY1\|ZHOUY1]] ([[User talk:ZHOUY1\|talk]]) 18:19, 7 November 2016 (CST)

VANKRASN39: hey, it took less than a month

2016-11-08T00:10:51Z

hey, it took less than a month

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	::Area works great for me. Yes, justice, foraging, etc. :) [[User:VANKRASN39\|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39\|talk]]) 17:44, 11 October 2016 (CDT)		::Area works great for me. Yes, justice, foraging, etc. :) [[User:VANKRASN39\|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39\|talk]]) 17:44, 11 October 2016 (CDT)
	:::Is it better now? Any other ideas for improvement (mechanics only)? See [[:Category: Mechanics]] [[User:VANKRASN39\|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39\|talk]]) 18:50, 11 October 2016 (CDT)		:::Is it better now? Any other ideas for improvement (mechanics only)? See [[:Category: Mechanics]] [[User:VANKRASN39\|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39\|talk]]) 18:50, 11 October 2016 (CDT)

			Okay, mechanics are all gone from this page, did you want to put that chart somewhere else? I'd like to get rid of this page all together. [[User:VANKRASN39\|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39\|talk]]) 18:10, 7 November 2016 (CST)

VANKRASN39: Q

2016-10-11T23:50:17Z

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	:Room Mechanics would include articles like Justice, Foraging, and so on? I think that would be fine, although "room" is MUD lingo that may not be immediately obvious to new players. Would "Area Mechanics" work as an umbrella term? [[User:ZHOUY1\|ZHOUY1]] ([[User talk:ZHOUY1\|talk]]) 16:28, 11 October 2016 (CDT)		:Room Mechanics would include articles like Justice, Foraging, and so on? I think that would be fine, although "room" is MUD lingo that may not be immediately obvious to new players. Would "Area Mechanics" work as an umbrella term? [[User:ZHOUY1\|ZHOUY1]] ([[User talk:ZHOUY1\|talk]]) 16:28, 11 October 2016 (CDT)
	::Area works great for me. Yes, justice, foraging, etc. :) [[User:VANKRASN39\|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39\|talk]]) 17:44, 11 October 2016 (CDT)		::Area works great for me. Yes, justice, foraging, etc. :) [[User:VANKRASN39\|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39\|talk]]) 17:44, 11 October 2016 (CDT)
			:::Is it better now? Any other ideas for improvement (mechanics only)? See [[:Category: Mechanics]] [[User:VANKRASN39\|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39\|talk]]) 18:50, 11 October 2016 (CDT)

VANKRASN39: response

2016-10-11T22:44:37Z

response

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	Yes, I'm looking to get rid of "basic mechanics" entirely and have the mechanics categories be Combat, Character, Item, and Town. I'm only looking at mechanics right now. Another option for "town" would be "room." [[User:VANKRASN39\|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39\|talk]]) 14:55, 11 October 2016 (CDT)		Yes, I'm looking to get rid of "basic mechanics" entirely and have the mechanics categories be Combat, Character, Item, and Town. I'm only looking at mechanics right now. Another option for "town" would be "room." [[User:VANKRASN39\|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39\|talk]]) 14:55, 11 October 2016 (CDT)
	:Room Mechanics would include articles like Justice, Foraging, and so on? I think that would be fine, although "room" is MUD lingo that may not be immediately obvious to new players. Would "Area Mechanics" work as an umbrella term? [[User:ZHOUY1\|ZHOUY1]] ([[User talk:ZHOUY1\|talk]]) 16:28, 11 October 2016 (CDT)		:Room Mechanics would include articles like Justice, Foraging, and so on? I think that would be fine, although "room" is MUD lingo that may not be immediately obvious to new players. Would "Area Mechanics" work as an umbrella term? [[User:ZHOUY1\|ZHOUY1]] ([[User talk:ZHOUY1\|talk]]) 16:28, 11 October 2016 (CDT)
			::Area works great for me. Yes, justice, foraging, etc. :) [[User:VANKRASN39\|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39\|talk]]) 17:44, 11 October 2016 (CDT)

ZHOUY1 at 21:28, 11 October 2016

2016-10-11T21:28:21Z

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	Yes, I'm looking to get rid of "basic mechanics" entirely and have the mechanics categories be Combat, Character, Item, and Town. I'm only looking at mechanics right now. Another option for "town" would be "room." [[User:VANKRASN39\|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39\|talk]]) 14:55, 11 October 2016 (CDT)		Yes, I'm looking to get rid of "basic mechanics" entirely and have the mechanics categories be Combat, Character, Item, and Town. I'm only looking at mechanics right now. Another option for "town" would be "room." [[User:VANKRASN39\|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39\|talk]]) 14:55, 11 October 2016 (CDT)
			:Room Mechanics would include articles like Justice, Foraging, and so on? I think that would be fine, although "room" is MUD lingo that may not be immediately obvious to new players. Would "Area Mechanics" work as an umbrella term? [[User:ZHOUY1\|ZHOUY1]] ([[User talk:ZHOUY1\|talk]]) 16:28, 11 October 2016 (CDT)

VANKRASN39: add an option

2016-10-11T19:56:44Z

add an option

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	Yes, I'm looking to get rid of "basic mechanics" entirely and have the mechanics categories be Combat, Character, Item, and Town. I'm only looking at mechanics right now. [[User:VANKRASN39\|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39\|talk]]) 14:55, 11 October 2016 (CDT)		Yes, I'm looking to get rid of "basic mechanics" entirely and have the mechanics categories be Combat, Character, Item, and Town. I'm only looking at mechanics right now. Another option for "town" would be "room." [[User:VANKRASN39\|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39\|talk]]) 14:55, 11 October 2016 (CDT)

VANKRASN39: response

2016-10-11T19:55:25Z

response

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	**Wizard Base Legendary Items		**Wizard Base Legendary Items
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			Yes, I'm looking to get rid of "basic mechanics" entirely and have the mechanics categories be Combat, Character, Item, and Town. I'm only looking at mechanics right now. [[User:VANKRASN39\|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39\|talk]]) 14:55, 11 October 2016 (CDT)

ZHOUY1 at 21:41, 10 October 2016

2016-10-10T21:41:06Z

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	:::[[:Category:Combat Mechanics]] moved. Do we agree on Item Mechanics, Town Mechanics, and Character Mechanics for the remaining pages? [[User:VANKRASN39\|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39\|talk]]) 23:00, 5 October 2016 (CDT)		:::[[:Category:Combat Mechanics]] moved. Do we agree on Item Mechanics, Town Mechanics, and Character Mechanics for the remaining pages? [[User:VANKRASN39\|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39\|talk]]) 23:00, 5 October 2016 (CDT)
	:~~:::~~If we have an opportunity to change the sidebar we can also take a moment to review how the overall tree should be organized (is "Mechanics" replacing "Basic Mechanics" on the side?). For reference, the current top-level tree is listed below. What would it look like after the change and should anything else be moved? [[User:ZHOUY1\|ZHOUY1]] ([[User talk:ZHOUY1\|talk]]) 16:39, 10 October 2016 (CDT)		<div style="margin-left:5em;">If we have an opportunity to change the sidebar we can also take a moment to review how the overall tree should be organized (is "Mechanics" replacing "Basic Mechanics" on the side?). For reference, the current top-level tree is listed below. What would it look like after the change and should anything else be moved? [[User:ZHOUY1\|ZHOUY1]] ([[User talk:ZHOUY1\|talk]]) 16:39, 10 October 2016 (CDT)

	*New Player Info		*New Player Info
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	**Two-Handed Weapons Legendary Items		**Two-Handed Weapons Legendary Items
	**Wizard Base Legendary Items		**Wizard Base Legendary Items
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ZHOUY1: category tree

2016-10-10T21:39:33Z

category tree

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	:::[[:Category:Combat Mechanics]] moved. Do we agree on Item Mechanics, Town Mechanics, and Character Mechanics for the remaining pages? [[User:VANKRASN39\|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39\|talk]]) 23:00, 5 October 2016 (CDT)		:::[[:Category:Combat Mechanics]] moved. Do we agree on Item Mechanics, Town Mechanics, and Character Mechanics for the remaining pages? [[User:VANKRASN39\|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39\|talk]]) 23:00, 5 October 2016 (CDT)
			::::If we have an opportunity to change the sidebar we can also take a moment to review how the overall tree should be organized (is "Mechanics" replacing "Basic Mechanics" on the side?). For reference, the current top-level tree is listed below. What would it look like after the change and should anything else be moved? [[User:ZHOUY1\|ZHOUY1]] ([[User talk:ZHOUY1\|talk]]) 16:39, 10 October 2016 (CDT)

			*New Player Info
			**Adventurer's Guild
			**Login Rewards
			*Basic Mechanics
			**Guides
			**Armor
			**Artisan Skills
			**Combat Maneuvers
			**Damage Types
			**Item Properties
			**Locksmithing
			**Shields
			**Skills
			**Special Abilities
			**Status Conditions
			**Transport
			**Treasure System
			**Verbs
			**Weapons
			*Professions
			**Guides
			**Profession Guilds
			**...
			*Races and Cultures
			**Official Documentation
			**...
			*Magic
			**Guides
			**Alchemy
			**Common Magical Items
			**Divination
			**Less Common Magical Items
			**Lores
			**Non-Player Magic
			**Rare Magical Items
			**Runes
			**Spells
			**Theory of Magic
			*World
			**Guides
			**Adventurers
			**Arkati
			**Currency
			**Events
			**Games
			**Geography
			**History
			**Languages
			**Ships of Elanthia
			**Time
			*Towns
			**Guides
			**Hunting Areas
			**Player Characters
			**NPC Shops
			**Town NPCs
			**...
			*Creatures
			**...
			*Storylines
			**...
			*Legendary Items
			**Item Scripts
			**Auction Lists
			**Ebon Gate Auction 2009
			**Ebon Gate Auction 5106
			**Edged Weapon Legendary Items
			**Private Properties
			**Ranger Base Legendary Items
			**Shadowdeath Items
			**Two-Handed Weapons Legendary Items
			**Wizard Base Legendary Items

VANKRASN39: response

2016-10-06T04:00:21Z

response

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	:Also propose splitting off combat mechanics pages into their own category and merging a whole bunch of pages (see individual talk pages). [[User:VANKRASN39\|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39\|talk]]) 10:10, 4 October 2016 (CDT)		:Also propose splitting off combat mechanics pages into their own category and merging a whole bunch of pages (see individual talk pages). [[User:VANKRASN39\|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39\|talk]]) 10:10, 4 October 2016 (CDT)
	::Organizing combat mechanics would be good. I feel with the way the category is set up right now it inevitably becomes a dumping ground because everything in the game is either mechanics or lore, and "basic" is subjective (and even if it's winnowed, "advanced" mechanics is definitely a dumping ground). For instance cobbling isn't really a basic mechanic but there's nowhere else to present the article so it ends up under Basic Mechanics > Artisan Skills, and without highlighting it a new player won't even know that artisan skills exist. We can try to keep the articles that are reachable directly from the sidebar (or even one sublevel down) detailed systems-level guides instead of isolated concepts, and move the smaller concepts into their own categories that aren't necessarily part of the sidebar category tree. [[User:ZHOUY1\|ZHOUY1]] ([[User talk:ZHOUY1\|talk]]) 14:45, 4 October 2016 (CDT)		::Organizing combat mechanics would be good. I feel with the way the category is set up right now it inevitably becomes a dumping ground because everything in the game is either mechanics or lore, and "basic" is subjective (and even if it's winnowed, "advanced" mechanics is definitely a dumping ground). For instance cobbling isn't really a basic mechanic but there's nowhere else to present the article so it ends up under Basic Mechanics > Artisan Skills, and without highlighting it a new player won't even know that artisan skills exist. We can try to keep the articles that are reachable directly from the sidebar (or even one sublevel down) detailed systems-level guides instead of isolated concepts, and move the smaller concepts into their own categories that aren't necessarily part of the sidebar category tree. [[User:ZHOUY1\|ZHOUY1]] ([[User talk:ZHOUY1\|talk]]) 14:45, 4 October 2016 (CDT)

			:::[[:Category:Combat Mechanics]] moved. Do we agree on Item Mechanics, Town Mechanics, and Character Mechanics for the remaining pages? [[User:VANKRASN39\|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39\|talk]]) 23:00, 5 October 2016 (CDT)

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	::Area works great for me. Yes, justice, foraging, etc. :) [[User:VANKRASN39\|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39\|talk]]) 17:44, 11 October 2016 (CDT)		::Area works great for me. Yes, justice, foraging, etc. :) [[User:VANKRASN39\|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39\|talk]]) 17:44, 11 October 2016 (CDT)
	:::Is it better now? Any other ideas for improvement (mechanics only)? See [[:Category: Mechanics]] [[User:VANKRASN39\|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39\|talk]]) 18:50, 11 October 2016 (CDT)		:::Is it better now? Any other ideas for improvement (mechanics only)? See [[:Category: Mechanics]] [[User:VANKRASN39\|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39\|talk]]) 18:50, 11 October 2016 (CDT)

			Okay, mechanics are all gone from this page, did you want to put that chart somewhere else? I'd like to get rid of this page all together. [[User:VANKRASN39\|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39\|talk]]) 18:10, 7 November 2016 (CST)

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	:Room Mechanics would include articles like Justice, Foraging, and so on? I think that would be fine, although "room" is MUD lingo that may not be immediately obvious to new players. Would "Area Mechanics" work as an umbrella term? [[User:ZHOUY1\|ZHOUY1]] ([[User talk:ZHOUY1\|talk]]) 16:28, 11 October 2016 (CDT)		:Room Mechanics would include articles like Justice, Foraging, and so on? I think that would be fine, although "room" is MUD lingo that may not be immediately obvious to new players. Would "Area Mechanics" work as an umbrella term? [[User:ZHOUY1\|ZHOUY1]] ([[User talk:ZHOUY1\|talk]]) 16:28, 11 October 2016 (CDT)
	::Area works great for me. Yes, justice, foraging, etc. :) [[User:VANKRASN39\|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39\|talk]]) 17:44, 11 October 2016 (CDT)		::Area works great for me. Yes, justice, foraging, etc. :) [[User:VANKRASN39\|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39\|talk]]) 17:44, 11 October 2016 (CDT)
			:::Is it better now? Any other ideas for improvement (mechanics only)? See [[:Category: Mechanics]] [[User:VANKRASN39\|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39\|talk]]) 18:50, 11 October 2016 (CDT)

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	Yes, I'm looking to get rid of "basic mechanics" entirely and have the mechanics categories be Combat, Character, Item, and Town. I'm only looking at mechanics right now. Another option for "town" would be "room." [[User:VANKRASN39\|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39\|talk]]) 14:55, 11 October 2016 (CDT)		Yes, I'm looking to get rid of "basic mechanics" entirely and have the mechanics categories be Combat, Character, Item, and Town. I'm only looking at mechanics right now. Another option for "town" would be "room." [[User:VANKRASN39\|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39\|talk]]) 14:55, 11 October 2016 (CDT)
	:Room Mechanics would include articles like Justice, Foraging, and so on? I think that would be fine, although "room" is MUD lingo that may not be immediately obvious to new players. Would "Area Mechanics" work as an umbrella term? [[User:ZHOUY1\|ZHOUY1]] ([[User talk:ZHOUY1\|talk]]) 16:28, 11 October 2016 (CDT)		:Room Mechanics would include articles like Justice, Foraging, and so on? I think that would be fine, although "room" is MUD lingo that may not be immediately obvious to new players. Would "Area Mechanics" work as an umbrella term? [[User:ZHOUY1\|ZHOUY1]] ([[User talk:ZHOUY1\|talk]]) 16:28, 11 October 2016 (CDT)
			::Area works great for me. Yes, justice, foraging, etc. :) [[User:VANKRASN39\|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39\|talk]]) 17:44, 11 October 2016 (CDT)

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	:Also propose splitting off combat mechanics pages into their own category and merging a whole bunch of pages (see individual talk pages). [[User:VANKRASN39\|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39\|talk]]) 10:10, 4 October 2016 (CDT)		:Also propose splitting off combat mechanics pages into their own category and merging a whole bunch of pages (see individual talk pages). [[User:VANKRASN39\|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39\|talk]]) 10:10, 4 October 2016 (CDT)
	::Organizing combat mechanics would be good. I feel with the way the category is set up right now it inevitably becomes a dumping ground because everything in the game is either mechanics or lore, and "basic" is subjective (and even if it's winnowed, "advanced" mechanics is definitely a dumping ground). For instance cobbling isn't really a basic mechanic but there's nowhere else to present the article so it ends up under Basic Mechanics > Artisan Skills, and without highlighting it a new player won't even know that artisan skills exist. We can try to keep the articles that are reachable directly from the sidebar (or even one sublevel down) detailed systems-level guides instead of isolated concepts, and move the smaller concepts into their own categories that aren't necessarily part of the sidebar category tree. [[User:ZHOUY1\|ZHOUY1]] ([[User talk:ZHOUY1\|talk]]) 14:45, 4 October 2016 (CDT)		::Organizing combat mechanics would be good. I feel with the way the category is set up right now it inevitably becomes a dumping ground because everything in the game is either mechanics or lore, and "basic" is subjective (and even if it's winnowed, "advanced" mechanics is definitely a dumping ground). For instance cobbling isn't really a basic mechanic but there's nowhere else to present the article so it ends up under Basic Mechanics > Artisan Skills, and without highlighting it a new player won't even know that artisan skills exist. We can try to keep the articles that are reachable directly from the sidebar (or even one sublevel down) detailed systems-level guides instead of isolated concepts, and move the smaller concepts into their own categories that aren't necessarily part of the sidebar category tree. [[User:ZHOUY1\|ZHOUY1]] ([[User talk:ZHOUY1\|talk]]) 14:45, 4 October 2016 (CDT)

			:::[[:Category:Combat Mechanics]] moved. Do we agree on Item Mechanics, Town Mechanics, and Character Mechanics for the remaining pages? [[User:VANKRASN39\|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39\|talk]]) 23:00, 5 October 2016 (CDT)