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	Here, by request of at least one, is the Jharra Thornweis Guide to Casting [[Prayer of Communion (330)\|Commune]] in a Safe and Effective Fashion. Please note that no privileged information will be revealed here, and your mileage may vary depending on the precise circumstances of your commune. Other potential commune-~~answerering~~ [[GameMaster\|GMs]] may look for different things; I can only speak for myself and what I look for.		Here, by request of at least one, is the Jharra Thornweis Guide to Casting [[Prayer of Communion (330)\|Commune]] in a Safe and Effective Fashion. Please note that no privileged information will be revealed here, and your mileage may vary depending on the precise circumstances of your commune. Other potential commune-answering [[GameMaster\|GMs]] may look for different things; I can only speak for myself and what I look for.

	To get the ball rolling, you need a reason to commune. Poor reasons to commune include:		To get the ball rolling, you need a reason to commune. Poor reasons to commune include:
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	Make sure everyone in the communing party is aware of the situation and ready to react if anything interesting happens. I once responded to a commune to [[Eonak]] by messaging only the single Eonak follower present... who complained later just as loudly as the rest that nothing had happened! The servants of the Arkati often work in subtle ways, and I rarely find it appropriate to beat people over the head with a hammer. (Of course, it depends on the Arkati.)		Make sure everyone in the communing party is aware of the situation and ready to react if anything interesting happens. I once responded to a commune to [[Eonak]] by messaging only the single Eonak follower present... who complained later just as loudly as the rest that nothing had happened! The servants of the Arkati often work in subtle ways, and I rarely find it appropriate to beat people over the head with a hammer. (Of course, it depends on the Arkati.)

	At the end of it all... no matter how marvelous your commune, no matter how beautifully roleplayed the situation, no matter how appropriate the question, no matter how well-behaved the ~~spectactors~~ are, and no matter how symbolic the circumstances... your commune may go unanswered. This may be due to any of the reasons above, or it may be for one of two other reasons.		At the end of it all... no matter how marvelous your commune, no matter how beautifully roleplayed the situation, no matter how appropriate the question, no matter how well-behaved the spectators are, and no matter how symbolic the circumstances... your commune may go unanswered. This may be due to any of the reasons above, or it may be for one of two other reasons.

	It is possible that your commune will be answered in unexpected ways. Sometimes, as cruel as it sounds, silence is the most appropriate response -- the idea "the gods help those who help themselves" is very strong in Elanthia, particularly considering that the clerics channel the living power of the gods.		It is possible that your commune will be answered in unexpected ways. Sometimes, as cruel as it sounds, silence is the most appropriate response -- the idea "the gods help those who help themselves" is very strong in Elanthia, particularly considering that the clerics channel the living power of the gods.
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	But it is possible that your commune will really not be answered. This is due to GM availability and circumstance. For example, no matter how perfect your WoN-related commune, it won't get off the ground if there isn't a [[War of Nations]] GM online and available to answer it. I might think your commune to [[Amasalen]] is one of the sickest, most twisted, most exquisite things I've ever seen in my life, and I might have the answer to your commune sitting right under my coffee cup, but it won't matter two cents if I'm wrapped up in sorting out an eight-person PvP conflict that ties in with three scams and an abused game bug. It also won't matter how beautiful your commune is if I'm the only GM (for quest-related reasons) who can conceivably answer your commune, you decide to hold it at 6 AM, and my alarm clock decides to flash red 12:00 due to a power outage instead of waking me up on time. Real life has this way of catching up to people, and every GM has various duties that take precedence over commune-answering.		But it is possible that your commune will really not be answered. This is due to GM availability and circumstance. For example, no matter how perfect your WoN-related commune, it won't get off the ground if there isn't a [[War of Nations]] GM online and available to answer it. I might think your commune to [[Amasalen]] is one of the sickest, most twisted, most exquisite things I've ever seen in my life, and I might have the answer to your commune sitting right under my coffee cup, but it won't matter two cents if I'm wrapped up in sorting out an eight-person PvP conflict that ties in with three scams and an abused game bug. It also won't matter how beautiful your commune is if I'm the only GM (for quest-related reasons) who can conceivably answer your commune, you decide to hold it at 6 AM, and my alarm clock decides to flash red 12:00 due to a power outage instead of waking me up on time. Real life has this way of catching up to people, and every GM has various duties that take precedence over commune-answering.

	In real life, people don't just pray once for something -- they pray over, and over, and over. If the question was worth asking once, and you received no response, why not ask it again? Pick another date and hold another commune. See if it's more ~~succcessful~~.		In real life, people don't just pray once for something -- they pray over, and over, and over. If the question was worth asking once, and you received no response, why not ask it again? Pick another date and hold another commune. See if it's more successful.

	The above information should be taken with a grain (if not a pinch) of salt. It is not guaranteed to do anything more than provide the perspective and opinion of one GM. It is not intended as an argument to demonstrate the usefulness of Commune or to justify its presence as a level 30 spell. However, I hope that you find it interesting.		The above information should be taken with a grain (if not a pinch) of salt. It is not guaranteed to do anything more than provide the perspective and opinion of one GM. It is not intended as an argument to demonstrate the usefulness of Commune or to justify its presence as a level 30 spell. However, I hope that you find it interesting.

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	To get the ball rolling, you need a reason to commune. Poor reasons to commune include:		To get the ball rolling, you need a reason to commune. Poor reasons to commune include:
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	It should be a reason directly related to roleplay, and, for the greatest likelihood of a response, it should be one of two things:~~<br>~~		It should be a reason directly related to roleplay, and, for the greatest likelihood of a response, it should be one of two things:
	a) a specific enough purpose that a specific GM will take an interest in the matter, or~~<br>~~		:a) a specific enough purpose that a specific GM will take an interest in the matter, or
	b) a generic enough purpose that understanding the background of the situation is not necessary.		:b) a generic enough purpose that understanding the background of the situation is not necessary.

	If a [[cleric]] were to commune to learn more of the history of the [[Spider Temple]], for example, the commune would go unanswered if the commune was not observed by a GM who was already familiar with the history of the Spider Temple. This is why quest-related communes have a relatively high chance of success -- there is definitely someone (the quest runner!) who has the information near to hand and knows whether or not it is appropriate for the commune to be answered. On the other hand, if the GM in charge of the quest isn't around, then no one else is qualified to answer the commune, which can be problematic. Alternately, if the request is quite generic and completely unrelated to any current quest, then it can be answered by a GM who doesn't know anything about the situation.		If a [[cleric]] were to commune to learn more of the history of the [[Spider Temple]], for example, the commune would go unanswered if the commune was not observed by a GM who was already familiar with the history of the Spider Temple. This is why quest-related communes have a relatively high chance of success -- there is definitely someone (the quest runner!) who has the information near to hand and knows whether or not it is appropriate for the commune to be answered. On the other hand, if the GM in charge of the quest isn't around, then no one else is qualified to answer the commune, which can be problematic. Alternately, if the request is quite generic and completely unrelated to any current quest, then it can be answered by a GM who doesn't know anything about the situation.
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