Dodging - Revision history

ZHOUY1: Removed the duplicated DS formula information.

2017-06-20T02:03:04Z

Removed the duplicated DS formula information.

VANKRASN39: /* Resources */ add link to Duck and Weave, needs to be put into top when site fixed

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Resources: add link to Duck and Weave, needs to be put into top when site fixed

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	==Resources==		==Resources==
			*[[Duck and Weave]]
	*[[Evade]]		*[[Evade]]
	*http://www.play.net/gs4/info/combatguide.asp#factors		*http://www.play.net/gs4/info/combatguide.asp#factors

VANKRASN39: update for SMRv2

2016-12-29T01:47:11Z

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	'''~~Dodge~~''' is the primary [[skill]] of the [[Evade]] portion of the Evade/[[Block]]/[[Parry]] system which helps determine a character's overall [[Defensive Strength]] (DS) against [[melee]], [[ranged]] and [[bolt]] [[Attack strength\|AS]] attacks. Although the terms dodge and evade are often used ~~interchangebly~~ they are not the same. ~~Dodge~~ is a trainable skill that is one of the factors used to determine a character's evade defensive bonus.		'''Dodging''' is the primary [[skill]] of the [[Evade]] portion of the Evade/[[Block]]/[[Parry]] system which helps determine a character's overall [[Defensive Strength]] (DS) against [[melee]], [[ranged]] and [[bolt]] [[Attack strength\|AS]] attacks. Although the terms dodge and evade are often used interchangeably they are not the same. Dodging is a trainable skill that is one of the factors used to determine a character's evade defensive bonus.

	Because of the training point costs and skill ranks available per level, ~~dodge~~ is often a staple of the more physical professions while magic users will often forego it entirely. The decision for how much dodge training a character will have is usually a function of a character's particular training path.		Because of the training point costs and skill ranks available per level, dodging is often a staple of the more physical professions while magic users will often forego it entirely. The decision for how much dodge training a character will have is usually a function of a character's particular training path.

	~~Despite the skill's name, Dodge~~ has ''no effect'' on ~~most~~ [[standard maneuver roll]] checks, whether creature ~~special skills~~ or various spells like [[Major Elemental Wave (435~~)]] or [[Boil Earth (917~~)]]. Some specific ~~maneuvers~~ like [[Grasp of the Grave (709)]] may take the skill into account.		Dodging has ''no effect'' on [[standard maneuver roll]] (SMR) version 1 checks, whether creature maneuvers or various spells like [[Major Elemental Wave (435)]]. Some specific spells like [[Grasp of the Grave (709)]] may take the skill into account, and Dodging is a primary skill in [[SMRv2]].
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	== Ranks and Training Costs ==		== Ranks and Training Costs ==
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	==~~Dodge~~ Ranks and Evade==		==Dodging Ranks and Evade==

	The ~~[[Dodge]]~~ skill is a primary factor in [[Evade\|evading]] an attack entirely. While in [[stance]] offensive, a character, singled trained (1 rank per level) in ~~dodge~~, has approximately a 5% chance of evading an attack against a like-level foe. A character double trained (2 ranks per level) has a 10% chance and a character triple trained (3 ranks per level) has a 15% chance for an outright evasion. These percentages increase as a character moves to more defensive stances. The chance of an outright evasion also depends on a character's [[agility]]/[[intuition]] skill bonuses, [[encumbrance]], and certain spells such as [[Mass Blur (911)]], [[Mobility (618)]] and [[Song of Mirrors (1019)]].		The Dodging skill is a primary factor in [[Evade\|evading]] an attack entirely. While in [[stance]] offensive, a character, singled trained (1 rank per level) in dodging, has approximately a 5% chance of evading an attack against a like-level foe. A character double trained (2 ranks per level) has a 10% chance, and a character triple trained (3 ranks per level) has a 15% chance for an outright evasion. These percentages increase as a character moves to more defensive stances. The chance of an outright evasion also depends on a character's [[agility]]/[[intuition]] skill bonuses, [[encumbrance]], and certain spells such as [[Mass Blur (911)]], [[Mobility (618)]] and [[Song of Mirrors (1019)]].

	==~~Dodge~~ DS Formula (vs Melee Attacks)==		==Dodging DS Formula (vs Melee Attacks)==

	The first step in determining the ~~Dodge~~ [[Defensive strength\|DS]] bonus is to calculate the Base Value.		The first step in determining the Dodging [[Defensive strength\|DS]] bonus is to calculate the Base Value.

	<div {{prettydiv\|margin-right=500px}}><center><tt>'''Base Value = ~~Dodge~~ Ranks + ([[Agility\|AGI]] Bonus) + [[trunc]]([[Intuition\|INT]] Bonus ÷ 4)</tt></center></div>		<div {{prettydiv\|margin-right=500px}}><center><tt>'''Base Value = Dodging Ranks + ([[Agility\|AGI]] Bonus) + [[trunc]]([[Intuition\|INT]] Bonus ÷ 4)</tt></center></div>

	The second step is to enter the Base Value into the ~~Dodge~~ DS formula with the values of the other factors (see tables below).		The second step is to enter the Base Value into the Dodging DS formula with the values of the other factors (see tables below).

	<div {{prettydiv\|margin-right=300px}}><center><tt>'''~~Dodge~~ DS = [(Base Value × Armor Hindrance × Shield Factor) - Shield Size Penalty] × Stance Modifier</tt></center></div>		<div {{prettydiv\|margin-right=300px}}><center><tt>'''Dodging DS = [(Base Value × Armor Hindrance × Shield Factor) - Shield Size Penalty] × Stance Modifier</tt></center></div>

	''Note 1: Truncate results to integer values after each operation in the formula.''		''Note 1: Truncate results to integer values after each operation in the formula.''
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	===Example 1===		===Example 1===

	~~Dodge~~ DS for a character with:		Dodging DS for a character with:
	*~~Dodge~~ Ranks: 60		*Dodging Ranks: 60
	*Agility Bonus: 20		*Agility Bonus: 20
	*Intuition Bonus: 18		*Intuition Bonus: 18

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	Despite the skill's name, Dodge has ''no effect'' on most [[standard maneuver roll]] checks, whether creature special skills or various spells like [[Major Elemental Wave (435)]] or [[Boil Earth (917)]]. Some specific maneuvers like [[Grasp of the Grave (709)]] may take the skill into account.		Despite the skill's name, Dodge has ''no effect'' on most [[standard maneuver roll]] checks, whether creature special skills or various spells like [[Major Elemental Wave (435)]] or [[Boil Earth (917)]]. Some specific maneuvers like [[Grasp of the Grave (709)]] may take the skill into account.
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	== Ranks and Training Costs ==		== Ranks and Training Costs ==

PFLATS: Combining tables for ease of reading and less scrolling. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FA5jsa1lR9c

2016-03-10T22:32:30Z

Combining tables for ease of reading and less scrolling. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FA5jsa1lR9c

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	==Shield ~~Factors~~==		==Shield Modifiers==

			The '''Shield Factor''' and '''Shield Penalty''' vary by shield. A shield factor applies to all attacks, while the shield penalty only applies to melee attacks. These modifiers are:
	The '''Shield Factors''' to be used in the formula are:

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	!Size		!Size
	!Shield Factor		!Shield Factor
		⚫	!Size Penalty
	\|-align=center		\|-align=center
	\|Small		\|Small
	\|0.78		\|0.78
		⚫	\|0
	\|-align=center		\|-align=center
	\|Medium		\|Medium
	\|0.70		\|0.70
		⚫	\|0
	\|-align=center		\|-align=center
	\|Large		\|Large
	\|0.62		\|0.62
		⚫	\|5
	\|-align=center		\|-align=center
	\|Tower		\|Tower
	\|0.54		\|0.54
			\|10
	\|}		\|}

	<small>Note: The shield factors are derived from the following shield penalties: 22% (small), 30% (medium), 38% (large) and 46% (tower).</small>		<small>Note: The shield factors are derived from the following shield penalties: 22% (small), 30% (medium), 38% (large) and 46% (tower).</small>

	==Shield Size Penalty (melee)==

	For melee attacks only, there is a penalty to dodge DS depending on the size of your shield, if any:

	{\|{{prettytable}}
	\|-style = "background:#DDD; color: blue"
⚫	!Size \|\| Penalty
⚫	\|-
	\| Small \|\| 0
⚫	\|-
	\| Medium \|\| 0
⚫	\|-
	\| Large \|\| 5
	\|-
	\| Tower \|\| 10
	\|}

	==Stance Modifiers==		==Stance Modifiers==

VANKRASN39 at 15:19, 7 September 2015

2015-09-07T15:19:44Z

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	<small>Note: There is no [[block]] or [[parry]] encumbrance DS penalty.</small>		<small>Note: There is no [[block]] or [[parry]] encumbrance DS penalty.</small>

	==~~See Also~~==		==Resources==
		⚫	*[[Evade]]

⚫	[[Evade]]

	==References==
	*http://www.play.net/gs4/info/combatguide.asp#factors		*http://www.play.net/gs4/info/combatguide.asp#factors
	*http://www.play.net/gs4/info/skills.asp#dodging		*http://www.play.net/gs4/info/skills.asp#dodging

VANKRASN39: /* Dodge DS Formula (vs Ranged Attacks) */ format

2015-09-07T15:18:59Z

Dodge DS Formula (vs Ranged Attacks): format

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	==Dodge DS Formula (vs Ranged Attacks)==		==Dodge DS Formula (vs Ranged Attacks)==

	<tt>(Base Value × Armor Hindrance × Shield Factor × Stance Modifier) × 1.5 ~~= Dodge DS~~</tt>		<div {{prettydiv\|margin-right=400px}}><center><tt>'''Dodge DS = (Base Value × Armor Hindrance × Shield Factor × Stance Modifier) × 1.5</tt></center></div>

	<small>Note: Truncate after each operation. '''Round up''' final result.</small>		<small>Note: Truncate after each operation. '''Round up''' final result.</small>

VANKRASN39: /* Dodge DS Formula (vs Melee Attacks) */ format

2015-09-07T15:17:23Z

Dodge DS Formula (vs Melee Attacks): format

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	The first step in determining the Dodge [[Defensive strength\|DS]] bonus is to calculate the Base Value.		The first step in determining the Dodge [[Defensive strength\|DS]] bonus is to calculate the Base Value.

	<div {{prettydiv\|margin-right=~~50%~~}}>Dodge Ranks + ([[Agility\|AGI]] Bonus) + [[trunc]]([[Intuition\|INT]] Bonus ÷ 4) ~~= Base Value~~</div>		<div {{prettydiv\|margin-right=500px}}><center><tt>'''Base Value = Dodge Ranks + ([[Agility\|AGI]] Bonus) + [[trunc]]([[Intuition\|INT]] Bonus ÷ 4)</tt></center></div>

	The second step is to enter the Base Value into the Dodge DS formula with the values of the other factors (see tables below).		The second step is to enter the Base Value into the Dodge DS formula with the values of the other factors (see tables below).

	<div {{prettydiv\|margin-right=~~32%~~}}>((Base Value × Armor Hindrance × Shield Factor) - Shield Size Penalty)) × Stance Modifier ~~= Dodge DS~~</div>		<div {{prettydiv\|margin-right=300px}}><center><tt>'''Dodge DS = [(Base Value × Armor Hindrance × Shield Factor) - Shield Size Penalty] × Stance Modifier</tt></center></div>

	~~<I>~~Note 1: Truncate results to integer values after each operation in the formula.~~</I><br>~~		''Note 1: Truncate results to integer values after each operation in the formula.''

	===Example I===		===Example 1===

	Dodge DS for a character with:		Dodge DS for a character with:
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	*Stance: Advanced (0.80 factor)		*Stance: Advanced (0.80 factor)

	~~====~~Step 1 (Base Value) Calculations~~:====~~		;Step 1 (Base Value) Calculations

	~~<div {{prettydiv\|margin-right=67%}}>~~60 + 20 + trunc(18 ÷ 4) = 84 Base Value~~</div>~~		:60 + 20 + trunc(18 ÷ 4) = 84 Base Value

	~~====~~Step 2 (Dodge DS) Calculations~~:====~~		;Step 2 (Dodge DS) Calculations

	~~<div {{prettydiv\|margin-right=40%}}>~~84(Base Value) × .94(Armor Hindrance) × .70(Shield Factor) × .80(ADV Stance) = 43 DS~~</div>~~		:84(Base Value) × .94(Armor Hindrance) × .70(Shield Factor) × .80(ADV Stance) = 43 DS

	~~<I>~~Without truncating after each operation there would be an incorrect result of 44 DS.~~</I>~~		''Without truncating after each operation there would be an incorrect result of 44 DS.''

	===Example II===		===Example 2===

	Dodge DS for a character with:		Dodge DS for a character with:
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	*Stance: Advanced (0.80 factor)		*Stance: Advanced (0.80 factor)

	~~====~~Step 1 (Base Value) Calculations~~:====~~		;Step 1 (Base Value) Calculations

	~~<div {{prettydiv\|margin-right=70%}}>~~60 + 20 + trunc(18 ÷ 4) = 84 Base Value~~</div>~~		:60 + 20 + trunc(18 ÷ 4) = 84 Base Value

	~~====~~Step 2 (Dodge DS) Calculations~~:====~~		;Step 2 (Dodge DS) Calculations

	~~<div {{prettydiv\|margin-right=60%}}>(~~(84 × 0.94 × 0.54) - 10)) × 0.80(ADV Stance) = 25 DS~~</div>~~		:[(84 × 0.94 × 0.54) - 10] × 0.80(ADV Stance) = 25 DS

	==Dodge DS Formula (vs Ranged Attacks)==		==Dodge DS Formula (vs Ranged Attacks)==

ZHOUY1: Added note that Dodging can modify some SMRs.

2015-08-06T22:34:20Z

Added note that Dodging can modify some SMRs.

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	Because of the training point costs and skill ranks available per level, dodge is often a staple of the more physical professions while magic users will often forego it entirely. The decision for how much dodge training a character will have is usually a function of a character's particular training path.		Because of the training point costs and skill ranks available per level, dodge is often a staple of the more physical professions while magic users will often forego it entirely. The decision for how much dodge training a character will have is usually a function of a character's particular training path.

	Despite the skill's name, Dodge has ''no effect'' on [[~~creature~~ maneuver~~\|maneuver~~]] checks, whether creature special skills or various spells like [[Major Elemental Wave (435)]] or [[Boil Earth (917)]].		Despite the skill's name, Dodge has ''no effect'' on most [[standard maneuver roll]] checks, whether creature special skills or various spells like [[Major Elemental Wave (435)]] or [[Boil Earth (917)]]. Some specific maneuvers like [[Grasp of the Grave (709)]] may take the skill into account.

	== Ranks and Training Costs ==		== Ranks and Training Costs ==

SPYRIDONM1: fixed link (disambiguation)

2015-01-03T23:37:25Z

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	'''Dodge''' is the primary [[skill]] of the [[Evade]] portion of the Evade/[[Block]]/[[Parry]] system which helps determine a character's overall [[Defensive Strength]] (DS) against [[melee]], [[ranged]] and [[bolt]] [[AS]] attacks. Although the terms dodge and evade are often used interchangebly they are not the same. Dodge is a trainable skill that is one of the factors used to determine a character's evade defensive bonus.		'''Dodge''' is the primary [[skill]] of the [[Evade]] portion of the Evade/[[Block]]/[[Parry]] system which helps determine a character's overall [[Defensive Strength]] (DS) against [[melee]], [[ranged]] and [[bolt]] [[Attack strength\|AS]] attacks. Although the terms dodge and evade are often used interchangebly they are not the same. Dodge is a trainable skill that is one of the factors used to determine a character's evade defensive bonus.

	Because of the training point costs and skill ranks available per level, dodge is often a staple of the more physical professions while magic users will often forego it entirely. The decision for how much dodge training a character will have is usually a function of a character's particular training path.		Because of the training point costs and skill ranks available per level, dodge is often a staple of the more physical professions while magic users will often forego it entirely. The decision for how much dodge training a character will have is usually a function of a character's particular training path.