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NAAMIT: fixed -ng -ing

2023-03-23T11:32:49Z

fixed -ng -ing

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	\|b \|\| q/k \|\|\|\|l \|\| y/r \|\|\|\|v \|\| f \|\|\|\|br \|\| kr		\|b \|\| q/k \|\|\|\|l \|\| y/r \|\|\|\|v \|\| f \|\|\|\|br \|\| kr
	\|-		\|-
	\|c \|\| g \|\|\|\|m \|\| l/m \|\|\|\|w \|\| u/q \|\|\|\|ng/ing \|\| r		\|c \|\| g \|\|\|\|m \|\| l/m \|\|\|\|w \|\| u/q \|\|\|\|ng/ing \|\| r/ir
	\|-		\|-
	\|d \|\| e(*) \|\|\|\|n \|\| m \|\|\|\|x \|\| n \|\|\|\|pr\|\| hr		\|d \|\| e(*) \|\|\|\|n \|\| m \|\|\|\|x \|\| n \|\|\|\|pr\|\| hr

NAAMIT: /* Numbers, Counting */

2022-06-10T15:32:20Z

Numbers, Counting

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	* half = torv		* half = torv
	* full/all = va		* full/all = va
			* many = muma
	* pound = huame		* pound = huame
	* light = riehkt (measurement of weight~~, adjective~~)		* light = riehkt (adjective, measurement of weight)
	* heavy = tiofa		* heavy = tiofa

NAAMIT: /* Oddities */

2022-06-10T15:19:26Z

Oddities

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	* The word for 'black,' ''gir,'' is actually '''jet.'''		* The word for 'black,' ''gir,'' is actually '''jet.'''
	* The word for 'bleeding,' ''qyekeir / kekeir'' translates to '''blooding''', otherwise ''tankee'' would be '''zomjeke''' and not '''zomjii'''.		* The word for 'bleeding,' ''qyekeir / kekeir'' translates to '''blooding''', otherwise ''tankee'' would be '''zomjeke''' and not '''zomjii'''.
	* '''W=U/Q vs. W=Q/U''': General translations suggest things are feminine cipher and concepts are masculine cipher. But in the case of W, the cipher contains words belonging to either. Example from cipher, note the Q/U placement and error for R: Wet = Qir / Uir (would be Qir and Uid). Another error exists at '''Power = huid / huieb''' (would be ~~huid~~ or huqieb). But also consider, We=Qi. Water=Qorit. Wish=Qietz, Farewell = Vobriqi. yet also these: Wife= Uvi (uuvi, double U is omitted), Wrist = Ubrav.		* '''W=U/Q vs. W=Q/U''': General translations suggest things are feminine cipher and concepts are masculine cipher. But in the case of W, the cipher contains words belonging to either. Example from cipher, note the Q/U placement and error for R: Wet = Qir / Uir (would be Qir and Uid). Another error exists at '''Power = huid / huieb''' (would be huuid or huqieb). But also consider, We=Qi. Water=Qorit. Wish=Qietz, Farewell = Vobriqi. yet also these: Wife= Uvi (uuvi, double U is omitted), Wrist = Ubrav.


	==Grammar==		==Grammar==

NAAMIT at 15:18, 10 June 2022

2022-06-10T15:18:34Z

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	This section is for noting down decent Tehir words outside of those already translated in the official language documentation. Not all direct translations are worth using (example: 'puppy' is 'hahha' in Tehir).		This section is for noting down decent Tehir words outside of those already translated in the official language documentation. Not all direct translations are worth using (example: 'puppy' is 'hahha' in Tehir).

	===Numbers===		===Numbers, Counting===
	* one = umi		* one = umi
	* two = ruu		* two = ruu
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	* nine = mumi		* nine = mumi
	* ten = rim		* ten = rim
⚫	* zero/null = ma ('Z' is currently unknown, with no examples in documentation)
⚫	* empty = ~~ilhra~~
	* plus = hraz		* plus = hraz
	* minus = riz (less)		* minus = riz (less)
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	* twenty = ruu-ome hraz ma (two-and plus none)		* twenty = ruu-ome hraz ma (two-and plus none)
	* ninety-nine = mumi-ome hraz mumi (nine-and plus nine)		* ninety-nine = mumi-ome hraz mumi (nine-and plus nine)
		⚫	* zero/null = ma ('Z' is currently unknown, with no examples in documentation)
		⚫	* empty = imhda
			* half = torv
			* full/all = va
			* pound = huame
			* light = riehkt (measurement of weight, adjective)
			* heavy = tiofa

	===Food===		===Food===
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	* flower = vyuqid (noun) / vruuib (verb)		* flower = vyuqid (noun) / vruuib (verb)
	* paper = hohid		* paper = hohid
			* dark = eobj
⚫	* night = muhkt (preferred alternate of muttd)
	* light = ruhkt (preferred alternate of ruttd)
	* shadow = tzou		* shadow = tzou
		⚫	* night = muhkt (noun, preferred alternate of muttd)
			* light = yuhkt (noun)
			* bright = kriehkt (adjective)
	* finger = virid		* finger = virid
	* fiery = vubrium (fire-on)		* fiery = vubrium (fire-on)
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	===Colors===		===Colors===
	* ivory = ufura (note the error in the cipher, should be Ufuda?)		* ivory = ufura (note the error in the cipher, should be Ufuda?)
	* ~~Black~~/jet = gir		* black/jet = gir
	* green = tebriim (employs ''re'' as bri in cipher)		* green = tebriim (employs ''re'' as bri in cipher)
	* red = bri		* red = bri

NAAMIT at 14:20, 10 June 2022

2022-06-10T14:20:44Z

NAAMIT: /* Expanded Lexicon */

2022-06-10T14:10:05Z

Expanded Lexicon

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	* fluid = vyau		* fluid = vyau
	* wood = ueke		* wood = ueke
⚫	* flower = vyuqid
	* tree = ro-ueke (tall-wood)		* tree = ro-ueke (tall-wood)
			* branch, twig = ruut (twig), ahruut (up twig), zja-ruut (sky twig)
⚫	* night = muhkt (alternate of muttd)
			* root = deker or mudah-ruut (not-up-twig)
			* shrub = tzaq or zlo-ueke (small-wood)
		⚫	* flower = vyuqid (noun) / vruuib (verb)
			* paper = hohid
		⚫	* night = muhkt (preferred alternate of muttd)
			* light = ruhkt (preferred alternate of ruttd)
	* shadow = tzou		* shadow = tzou
	* finger = virid		* finger = virid
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	* cold = gure		* cold = gure
	* warm = mud-gure (not-cold)		* warm = mud-gure (not-cold)

			==Directions==
			* up = ah
			* down = mudah (not-up)
			* in = iem
			* out = uad
			* north = mubzh
			* south = zuazh
			* east = iov
			* west = qiv

	===Colors===		===Colors===
	* ivory = ufura (note the error in the cipher, should be Ufuda?)		* ivory = ufura (note the error in the cipher, should be Ufuda?)
	* Black/jet = gir		* Black/jet = gir
	* green = tebriim (employs ''re'' as bri in cipher ~~and omission of a triplicate e~~)		* green = tebriim (employs ''re'' as bri in cipher)
	* red = bri		* red = bri
	* yellow = zome		* yellow = zome

NAAMIT: Undo revision 168672 by NAAMIT (talk)

2022-06-10T02:26:21Z

Undo revision 168672 by NAAMIT (talk)

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	===Food===		===Food===
	* bread = ~~qrio~~		* bread = krio
	* dates = eoriz		* dates = eoriz
	* figs = vutz		* figs = vutz

NAAMIT: /* Food */

2022-06-10T02:24:44Z

Food

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	===Food===		===Food===
	* bread = ~~krio~~		* bread = qrio
	* dates = eoriz		* dates = eoriz
	* figs = vutz		* figs = vutz

NAAMIT: Added words from the mangler

2022-06-10T01:45:58Z

Added words from the mangler

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	\|b \|\| q/k \|\|\|\|l \|\| y/r \|\|\|\|v \|\| f \|\|\|\|br \|\| kr		\|b \|\| q/k \|\|\|\|l \|\| y/r \|\|\|\|v \|\| f \|\|\|\|br \|\| kr
	\|-		\|-
	\|c \|\| g \|\|\|\|m \|\| l/m \|\|\|\|w \|\| u/q \|\|\|\|ng \|\| r		\|c \|\| g \|\|\|\|m \|\| l/m \|\|\|\|w \|\| u/q \|\|\|\|ng/ing \|\| r
	\|-		\|-
	\|d \|\| e(*) \|\|\|\|n \|\| m \|\|\|\|x \|\| n \|\|\|\|~~ing~~ \|\| ir		\|d \|\| e(*) \|\|\|\|n \|\| m \|\|\|\|x \|\| n \|\|\|\|pr\|\| hr
	\|-		\|-
	\|e \|\| i \|\|\|\|o \|\| u \|\|\|\|y \|\| a \|\|\|\| ck \|\| j		\|e \|\| i \|\|\|\|o \|\| u \|\|\|\|y \|\| a \|\|\|\| ck \|\| j
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	* The word for 'black,' ''gir,'' is actually '''jet.'''		* The word for 'black,' ''gir,'' is actually '''jet.'''
	* The word for 'bleeding,' ''qyekeir / kekeir'' translates to '''blooding''', otherwise ''tankee'' would be '''zomjeke''' and not '''zomjii'''.		* The word for 'bleeding,' ''qyekeir / kekeir'' translates to '''blooding''', otherwise ''tankee'' would be '''zomjeke''' and not '''zomjii'''.
			* W=U/Q vs. W=Q/U: General translations suggest things are feminine cipher and concepts are masculine cipher. But in the case of W, the cipher contains words belonging to either. Example from cipher, note the Q/U placement and error for R: Wet = Qir / Uir (should be Qir and Uid). Another error exists at '''Power = huid / huieb''' (should be huqid or huieb by this logic). But also, We=Qi. Water=Qorit. Wish=Qietz, Farewell = Vobriqi. yet also these: Wife= Uvi (uuvi, double U is omitted), Wrist = Ubrav.


	==Grammar==		==Grammar==
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	===Numbers===		===Numbers===
	*one = umi		* one = umi
	*two = ruu		* two = ruu
	*three = zhii		* three = zhii
	*four = vuad		* four = vuad
	*five = vufi		* five = vufi
	*six = zun		* six = zun
	*seven = zifim		* seven = zifim
	*eight = iuhkt		* eight = iuhkt
	*nine = mumi		* nine = mumi
	*ten = rim		* ten = rim
	*zero/null = ma ('Z' is currently unknown, with no examples in documentation)		* zero/null = ma ('Z' is currently unknown, with no examples in documentation)
	*empty = ilhra		* empty = ilhra
			* plus = hraz
			* minus = riz (less)
			* eleven = rim-ome hraz umi (ten-and plus one)
			* twenty = ruu-ome hraz ma (two-and plus none)
			* ninety-nine = mumi-ome hraz mumi (nine-and plus nine)

			===Food===
			* bread = krio
			* dates = eoriz
			* figs = vutz
			* tea = rio

			===Nature===
			* cactus = gograz
			* bird = qude
			* sky = zja
			* heavens = zhi-zja (the-sky)
			* hail = tou
			* sand = zome
			* desert = qot-zome (big-sand)
			* fluid = vyau
			* wood = ueke
			* flower = vyuqid
			* tree = ro-ueke (tall-wood)
			* night = muhkt (alternate of muttd)
			* shadow = tzou
			* finger = virid
			* fiery = vubrium (fire-on)
			* hot = tud
			* cold = gure
			* warm = mud-gure (not-cold)

			===Colors===
			* ivory = ufura (note the error in the cipher, should be Ufuda?)
			* Black/jet = gir
			* green = tebriim (employs ''re'' as bri in cipher and omission of a triplicate e)
			* red = bri
			* yellow = zome
			* blue = krai or ahmdir (ambiguous usage for a color of many shades)

	[[Category:Player Research]]		[[Category:Player Research]]

NAAMIT: removed ee=eke which was assumed to be "bleeding"; it is derived from blooding. Fixed w=u/q Added ck=j, and ght=hkt. Fixed numbers.

2022-06-09T22:42:16Z

removed ee=eke which was assumed to be "bleeding"; it is derived from blooding. Fixed w=u/q Added ck=j, and ght=hkt. Fixed numbers.

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	\|b \|\| q/k \|\|\|\|l \|\| y/r \|\|\|\|v \|\| f \|\|\|\|br \|\| kr		\|b \|\| q/k \|\|\|\|l \|\| y/r \|\|\|\|v \|\| f \|\|\|\|br \|\| kr
	\|-		\|-
	\|c \|\| g \|\|\|\|m \|\| l \|\|\|\|w \|\| q/u \|\|\|\|ng \|\| r		\|c \|\| g \|\|\|\|m \|\| l/m \|\|\|\|w \|\| u/q \|\|\|\|ng \|\| r
	\|-		\|-
	\|d \|\| e(*) \|\|\|\|n \|\| m \|\|\|\|x \|\| n \|\|\|\|ing \|\| ir		\|d \|\| e(*) \|\|\|\|n \|\| m \|\|\|\|x \|\| n \|\|\|\|ing \|\| ir
	\|-		\|-
	\|e \|\| i \|\|\|\|o \|\| u \|\|\|\|y \|\| a \|\|\|\| ee \|\| ~~eke~~		\|e \|\| i \|\|\|\|o \|\| u \|\|\|\|y \|\| a \|\|\|\| ck \|\| j
	\|-		\|-
	\|f \|\| v \|\|\|\|p \|\| h \|\|\|\|z \|\| s \|\|\|\|oo \|\| eke		\|f \|\| v \|\|\|\|p \|\| h \|\|\|\|z \|\| s \|\|\|\|oo \|\| eke
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	\|g \|\| t/te* \|\|\|\|q \|\| k \|\|\|\|ch[r?] \|\| gt \|\|\|\|gh \|\| tt		\|g \|\| t/te* \|\|\|\|q \|\| k \|\|\|\|ch[r?] \|\| gt \|\|\|\|gh \|\| tt
	\|-		\|-
	\|h \|\| t \|\|\|\|r \|\| d/(b~~/[br?])~~ \|\|\|\|sh[r?] \|\| tz \|\|\|\| kn \|\| m*		\|h \|\| t \|\|\|\|r \|\| d/b \|\|\|\|sh[r?] \|\| tz \|\|\|\| kn \|\| m*
	\|-		\|-
	\|i \|\| u/ie \|\|\|\|s \|\| z \|\|\|\|th[r?] \|\| zh \|\|\|\|ll \|\| --*		\|i \|\| u/ie \|\|\|\|s \|\| z \|\|\|\|th[r?] \|\| zh \|\|\|\|ll \|\| --*
	\|-		\|-
	\|j \|\| g \|\|\|\|t \|\| r/d \|\|\|\|st[r?] \|\| v \|\|\|\| \|\|		\|j \|\| g \|\|\|\|t \|\| r/d \|\|\|\|st[r?] \|\| v \|\|\|\|ght \|\| hkt*
	\|}		\|}

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	*'''LL''' is dropped entirely in translation to Tehir. (Ex: 'small' is 'zlo')		*'''LL''' is dropped entirely in translation to Tehir. (Ex: 'small' is 'zlo')
	*'''SS''' appears to translate to a single ''Z'', rather than double Z.		*'''SS''' appears to translate to a single ''Z'', rather than double Z.
			*'''GHT''' such as with '''night''' (e.g. muttd) appears to be a cipher error due to mixing of gendered letters. Translation is difficult to parse in this format. Early cipher variation had GHT=HKT but it may have been dropped in later versions given listing for night. Recommend retaining GHT=HKT.

	Words appear to keep the same gender-related letter choices throughout, so no word has a mixture of male and female when encrypted.		Words appear to keep the same gender-related letter choices throughout, so no word has a mixture of male and female when encrypted.

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	* The word for 'hunting dog,' ''tuame,'' is actually '''hound.'''		* The word for 'hunting dog,' ''tuame,'' is actually '''hound.'''
	* The word for 'black,' ''gir,'' is actually '''jet.'''		* The word for 'black,' ''gir,'' is actually '''jet.'''
			* The word for 'bleeding,' ''qyekeir / kekeir'' translates to '''blooding''', otherwise ''tankee'' would be '''zomjeke''' and not '''zomjii'''.

	==Grammar==		==Grammar==
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	===-ing===		===-ing===
	Words ending with -ing, all official examples being verbs, appear to have 'ir' as a full substitution. ~~Uncertain if this~~ substitution is for ~~present participle only or just~~ all instances of 'ing'.		Words ending with -ing, all official examples being verbs, appear to have 'ir' as a full substitution. This substitution is for all instances of 'ing'.

	==Expanded Lexicon==		==Expanded Lexicon==
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	===Numbers===		===Numbers===
	*one = umi		*one = umi
	*two = ~~rqu / duu~~		*two = ruu
	*three = ~~zheke~~		*three = zhii
	*four = vuad~~/vuab~~		*four = vuad
	*five = vufi ~~/viefi~~		*five = vufi
	*six = zun ~~/ zien~~		*six = zun
	*seven = zifim		*seven = zifim
	*eight= ~~iuttr / iiettd~~		*eight = iuhkt
	*nine = mumi ~~/ miemi~~		*nine = mumi
	*ten = rim ~~/dim~~		*ten = rim
	*null = ma ('Z' is currently unknown, with no examples in documentation)		*zero/null = ma ('Z' is currently unknown, with no examples in documentation)
	**empty = ilhra~~/ilhda~~		*empty = ilhra

	[[Category:Player Research]]		[[Category:Player Research]]

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	\|f \|\| v \|\|\|\|p \|\| h \|\|\|\|z \|\| s \|\|\|\|oo \|\| eke		\|f \|\| v \|\|\|\|p \|\| h \|\|\|\|z \|\| s \|\|\|\|oo \|\| eke
	\|-		\|-
	\|g \|\| t/te* \|\|\|\|q \|\| k \|\|\|\|ch[r?] \|\| gt \|\|\|\|gh \|\| tt		\|g \|\| t/te* \|\|\|\|q \|\| k \|\|\|\|ch[r?] \|\| gt \|\|\|\| kn \|\| m*
	\|-		\|-
	\|h \|\| t \|\|\|\|r \|\| d/b \|\|\|\|sh[r?] \|\| tz \|\|\|\| kn \|\| m*		\|h \|\| t \|\|\|\|r \|\| d/b \|\|\|\|sh[r?] \|\| tz \|\|\|\| gh \|\| tt*
	\|-		\|-
	\|i \|\| u/ie \|\|\|\|s \|\| z \|\|\|\|th[r?] \|\| zh \|\|\|\|ll \|\| --*		\|i \|\| u/ie \|\|\|\|s \|\| z \|\|\|\|th[r?] \|\| zh \|\|\|\|ght \|\| hkt*
	\|-		\|-
	\|j \|\| g \|\|\|\|t \|\| r/d \|\|\|\|st[r?] \|\| v \|\|\|\|~~ght~~ \|\| ~~hkt~~*		\|j \|\| g \|\|\|\|t \|\| r/d \|\|\|\|st[r?] \|\| v \|\|\|\|ll \|\| --*
	\|}		\|}

		⚫	Words appear to keep the same gender-related letter choices throughout, so no word has a mixture of male and female when encrypted.
	*'''D''' -> E is often dropped entirely, see vowels section. (Ex: ''teuriz'' = 'godless')		*'''D''' -> E is often dropped entirely, see vowels section. (Ex: ''teuriz'' = 'godless')
	*'''G''' might also be encrypted as just T, if there are too many vowels after.		*'''G''' might also be encrypted as just T, if there are too many vowels after.
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	*'''LL''' is dropped entirely in translation to Tehir. (Ex: 'small' is 'zlo')		*'''LL''' is dropped entirely in translation to Tehir. (Ex: 'small' is 'zlo')
	*'''SS''' appears to translate to a single ''Z'', rather than double Z.		*'''SS''' appears to translate to a single ''Z'', rather than double Z.
	*'''GHT''' such as with '''night''' (~~e.g.~~ muttd) ~~appears to~~ be a cipher error due to mixing of gendered letters. Translation is difficult to parse in this format. Early cipher variation had GHT=HKT but it may have been dropped in later versions ~~given listing for night~~. Recommend retaining GHT=HKT.		*'''GH''' vs '''GHT''' such as with '''night''' (muttd) may be a cipher error due to mixing of gendered letters. Translation is difficult to parse in this format. Early cipher variation had GHT=HKT but it may have been dropped in later versions. Recommend retaining GHT=HKT as reverse translation of TTD combination can suggest unintended word origins.
⚫	Words appear to keep the same gender-related letter choices throughout, so no word has a mixture of male and female when encrypted.

	==Vowels==		==Vowels==
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	* The word for 'black,' ''gir,'' is actually '''jet.'''		* The word for 'black,' ''gir,'' is actually '''jet.'''
	* The word for 'bleeding,' ''qyekeir / kekeir'' translates to '''blooding''', otherwise ''tankee'' would be '''zomjeke''' and not '''zomjii'''.		* The word for 'bleeding,' ''qyekeir / kekeir'' translates to '''blooding''', otherwise ''tankee'' would be '''zomjeke''' and not '''zomjii'''.
	* W=U/Q vs. W=Q/U: General translations suggest things are feminine cipher and concepts are masculine cipher. But in the case of W, the cipher contains words belonging to either. Example from cipher, note the Q/U placement and error for R: Wet = Qir / Uir (~~should~~ be Qir and Uid). Another error exists at '''Power = huid / huieb''' (~~should~~ be ~~huqid~~ or ~~huieb by this logic~~). But also, We=Qi. Water=Qorit. Wish=Qietz, Farewell = Vobriqi. yet also these: Wife= Uvi (uuvi, double U is omitted), Wrist = Ubrav.		* '''W=U/Q vs. W=Q/U''': General translations suggest things are feminine cipher and concepts are masculine cipher. But in the case of W, the cipher contains words belonging to either. Example from cipher, note the Q/U placement and error for R: Wet = Qir / Uir (would be Qir and Uid). Another error exists at '''Power = huid / huieb''' (would be huid or huqieb). But also consider, We=Qi. Water=Qorit. Wish=Qietz, Farewell = Vobriqi. yet also these: Wife= Uvi (uuvi, double U is omitted), Wrist = Ubrav.