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GS4-XERAPHINA: /* Acuity and Mana Flares */

2022-01-08T15:34:41Z

Acuity and Mana Flares

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⚫	Unfortunately it's the only method being offered since CCF to improve high end gear. I'd like to finish my project and be mostly done with rat races like this, but at the same time I'm not going to allow myself to be completely ripped off. Also if you only allow 1x acuity, and in the next event go up to 2x per service (like was done at RTCF), it makes getting 1x completely irrelevant, so yeah, frustration.~~</div>~~
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		⚫	\| Unfortunately it's the only method being offered since CCF to improve high end gear. I'd like to finish my project and be mostly done with rat races like this, but at the same time I'm not going to allow myself to be completely ripped off. Also if you only allow 1x acuity, and in the next event go up to 2x per service (like was done at RTCF), it makes getting 1x completely irrelevant, so yeah, frustration.
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	Acuity should have never been offered as +2 steps from a single service. It's a lot like enchanting, when it's offered, it should only take you up one step (+5) at a time. I specifically designed acuity such that it would take up to 10 services to maximize, if you're starting from scratch. However, as I told Wyrom last night, the service has actually become too rare. Instead of it offering +2 steps, it needs to be +1, but be offered more frequently. Admittedly, getting up to 10x is still going to be limited and difficult, just as with most high end services.		Acuity should have never been offered as +2 steps from a single service. It's a lot like enchanting, when it's offered, it should only take you up one step (+5) at a time. I specifically designed acuity such that it would take up to 10 services to maximize, if you're starting from scratch. However, as I told Wyrom last night, the service has actually become too rare. Instead of it offering +2 steps, it needs to be +1, but be offered more frequently. Admittedly, getting up to 10x is still going to be limited and difficult, just as with most high end services.

GS4-XERAPHINA: /* Acuity and Mana Flares */

2022-01-08T15:32:14Z

Acuity and Mana Flares

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	For flares like Acuity and Mana, we can offer large amounts as auction or raffle quality items. However, we also like to make it a build-up service; something that can be worked towards over multiple events instead of just jumping right to the top.		For flares like Acuity and Mana, we can offer large amounts as auction or raffle quality items. However, we also like to make it a build-up service; something that can be worked towards over multiple events instead of just jumping right to the top.

	{{saved-post		<section begin=savedpost />{{saved-post
	\| category = ~~Quests/Sagas/~~Events		\| category = Paid Events: Adventures, Quests, and SimuCoins
	\| topic = Duskruin Arena		\| topic = Duskruin Arena
			\| messagenum = [http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Paid%20Events:%20Adventures,%20Quests,%20and%20SimuCoins/Duskruin%20Arena/view/3395 3395]
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	\| author = GS4-ESTILD		\| author = GS4-ESTILD
	\| date = 04/28/2016 ~~10:00 AM EDT~~		\| date = 04/28/2016
	\| subject = ~~Re:~~ The List with Pricing		\| subject = The List with Pricing
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	}}:''>VANKRASN39
			<div style="border:1px solid black">VANKRASN39<br>
	~~:''>~~Unfortunately it's the only method being offered since CCF to improve high end gear. I'd like to finish my project and be mostly done with rat races like this, but at the same time I'm not going to allow myself to be completely ripped off. Also if you only allow 1x acuity, and in the next event go up to 2x per service (like was done at RTCF), it makes getting 1x completely irrelevant, so yeah, frustration.''		Unfortunately it's the only method being offered since CCF to improve high end gear. I'd like to finish my project and be mostly done with rat races like this, but at the same time I'm not going to allow myself to be completely ripped off. Also if you only allow 1x acuity, and in the next event go up to 2x per service (like was done at RTCF), it makes getting 1x completely irrelevant, so yeah, frustration.</div>

	Acuity should have never been offered as +2 steps from a single service. It's a lot like enchanting, when it's offered, it should only take you up one step (+5) at a time. I specifically designed acuity such that it would take up to 10 services to maximize, if you're starting from scratch. However, as I told Wyrom last night, the service has actually become too rare. Instead of it offering +2 steps, it needs to be +1, but be offered more frequently. Admittedly, getting up to 10x is still going to be limited and difficult, just as with most high end services.		Acuity should have never been offered as +2 steps from a single service. It's a lot like enchanting, when it's offered, it should only take you up one step (+5) at a time. I specifically designed acuity such that it would take up to 10 services to maximize, if you're starting from scratch. However, as I told Wyrom last night, the service has actually become too rare. Instead of it offering +2 steps, it needs to be +1, but be offered more frequently. Admittedly, getting up to 10x is still going to be limited and difficult, just as with most high end services.

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	==Spells Not Triggering Runestaff Flares==		==Spells Not Triggering Runestaff Flares==

WINTERDAWN: Bless Item (304) is now called Bless (304) in game.

2019-05-06T05:03:23Z

Bless Item (304) is now called Bless (304) in game.

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	Mana flares can trigger when casting any spell. The other flare types only work on single target, war spells. All current runestaves with flares will see their flares become functional with spells once this goes live. Past that, this service will debut at this year's Ebon Gate, then be available at other special events, through the treasure system, Premium Points, the Adventure's Guild, and from many other places.		Mana flares can trigger when casting any spell. The other flare types only work on single target, war spells. All current runestaves with flares will see their flares become functional with spells once this goes live. Past that, this service will debut at this year's Ebon Gate, then be available at other special events, through the treasure system, Premium Points, the Adventure's Guild, and from many other places.

	Lastly, holy water flares from [[Bless ~~Item~~ (304)]] will work on runestaves. Each time a player casts a spell that can trigger the flare, it will deplete a charge from the runestaff.		Lastly, holy water flares from [[Bless (304)]] will work on runestaves. Each time a player casts a spell that can trigger the flare, it will deplete a charge from the runestaff.

	GameMaster Estild		GameMaster Estild

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2016-12-26T20:01:34Z

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VANKRASN39: /* Flares */ add post

2016-04-28T16:33:04Z

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	For flares like Acuity and Mana, we can offer large amounts as auction or raffle quality items. However, we also like to make it a build-up service; something that can be worked towards over multiple events instead of just jumping right to the top.		For flares like Acuity and Mana, we can offer large amounts as auction or raffle quality items. However, we also like to make it a build-up service; something that can be worked towards over multiple events instead of just jumping right to the top.

			{{saved-post
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			\| topic = Duskruin Arena
			\| messagenum = 3395
			\| author = GS4-ESTILD
			\| date = 04/28/2016 10:00 AM EDT
			\| subject = Re: The List with Pricing
			}}:''>VANKRASN39
			:''>Unfortunately it's the only method being offered since CCF to improve high end gear. I'd like to finish my project and be mostly done with rat races like this, but at the same time I'm not going to allow myself to be completely ripped off. Also if you only allow 1x acuity, and in the next event go up to 2x per service (like was done at RTCF), it makes getting 1x completely irrelevant, so yeah, frustration.''

			Acuity should have never been offered as +2 steps from a single service. It's a lot like enchanting, when it's offered, it should only take you up one step (+5) at a time. I specifically designed acuity such that it would take up to 10 services to maximize, if you're starting from scratch. However, as I told Wyrom last night, the service has actually become too rare. Instead of it offering +2 steps, it needs to be +1, but be offered more frequently. Admittedly, getting up to 10x is still going to be limited and difficult, just as with most high end services.

			GameMaster Estild

	==Flares II==		==Flares II==

VANKRASN39: /* Flares */ combine posts

2016-02-15T19:26:46Z

Flares: combine posts

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	Honestly Estild the whole accuity thing sounds neat but I just can't see even 10x accuity flares being better than an uncommon crit flare. +30 CS or +50 AS "might" do more damage than the flare would or it might not due to crit randomization. Unfortunatley we aren't talking about +50 AS or +30 CS, we're talking about 5/3 because that's apparently what we can add base. Accuity flares seem like they require a lot more work to even be competative with a crit flare. The reason crit weighting is so much more valuable than flares is because its always on. Accuity flares strike me as the closest thing you could get to weighting for all types of spells but they aren't always on they're on as often as a flare is. Accuity flares need to be always on and stupidly rare to get a high value on, similar to TD enhancing armor. Its the only way they'll really compete.		Honestly Estild the whole accuity thing sounds neat but I just can't see even 10x accuity flares being better than an uncommon crit flare. +30 CS or +50 AS "might" do more damage than the flare would or it might not due to crit randomization. Unfortunatley we aren't talking about +50 AS or +30 CS, we're talking about 5/3 because that's apparently what we can add base. Accuity flares seem like they require a lot more work to even be competative with a crit flare. The reason crit weighting is so much more valuable than flares is because its always on. Accuity flares strike me as the closest thing you could get to weighting for all types of spells but they aren't always on they're on as often as a flare is. Accuity flares need to be always on and stupidly rare to get a high value on, similar to TD enhancing armor. Its the only way they'll really compete.
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	Most acuity flares won’t deal more concussion damage that a crit flare. That’s not their purpose. They increase the damage factor of your attack. So as an hypothetical, you’re evaluating dealing a rank 6 crit from your attack + a rank 3 crit flare vs. a rank 7 crit from your attack (base 6 + 1 more crit rank due to the acuity bonus). Acuity flares are also not subject to randomization; it always provides the full bonus while a crit flare deals a random amount of damage.		Most acuity flares won’t deal more concussion damage that a crit flare. That’s not their purpose. They increase the damage factor of your attack. So as an hypothetical, you’re evaluating dealing a rank 6 crit from your attack + a rank 3 crit flare vs. a rank 7 crit from your attack (base 6 + 1 more crit rank due to the acuity bonus). Acuity flares are also not subject to randomization; it always provides the full bonus while a crit flare deals a random amount of damage.

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	Keith/Brinret<br>		Keith/Brinret<br>
	That said mana flares strike me as really weak considering the low value and assuming they only flare as often as a crit or accuity flare. 1 mana returned every 20 casts or even 5 mana returned isn't going to make any real difference. Honestly short of working every cast, either by returning mana every cast up to the cost of the spell or reducing the cost of spells by the value to a minimum of 1, I don't see the values being worthwhile at all. As a flare I think you really need to be looking more into the ballpark of 5, 10, 15, 20, 25 mana returned.		That said mana flares strike me as really weak considering the low value and assuming they only flare as often as a crit or accuity flare. 1 mana returned every 20 casts or even 5 mana returned isn't going to make any real difference. Honestly short of working every cast, either by returning mana every cast up to the cost of the spell or reducing the cost of spells by the value to a minimum of 1, I don't see the values being worthwhile at all. As a flare I think you really need to be looking more into the ballpark of 5, 10, 15, 20, 25 mana returned.
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	Mana flares are intentionally designed for low level Pures. Once a Pure gets to mid and higher levels, mana becomes less of an issue; so in most circumstances, no matter how good the mana return was, such characters would prefer the offensive nature of the other flares. 1-5 mana isn’t a lot for those same characters, but when you evaluate it against low level Pures who tend to use attack spells that cost only a few mana, it works out so that you’re getting a free attack spell every flare. Also, runestaff flares trigger significantly more often than every 20 casts.		Mana flares are intentionally designed for low level Pures. Once a Pure gets to mid and higher levels, mana becomes less of an issue; so in most circumstances, no matter how good the mana return was, such characters would prefer the offensive nature of the other flares. 1-5 mana isn’t a lot for those same characters, but when you evaluate it against low level Pures who tend to use attack spells that cost only a few mana, it works out so that you’re getting a free attack spell every flare. Also, runestaff flares trigger significantly more often than every 20 casts.
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	Cleric/Empath Team		Cleric/Empath Team

			{{saved-post
			\| category = Quests/Sagas/Events
			\| topic = Ebon Gate Festival
			\| messagenum = 6492
			\| author = '''GS4-TAMUZ'''
			\| date = 8/30/2014 1:25 PM
			\| subject = Re: Runestaff love
			}}''Mana and acuity are both common and uncommon?''

			Short answer: Yes, depending on their potency.

			Longer answer:
			Common [[Flare]]s: Fire, Ice, Lightning, Earth/Vibration, Vacuum/Void, Mana up to 2 points, Acuity up to 4x. This is "off the shelf" quality.

			Uncommon Flares: Disintegration, Disruption, Unbalance, Grapple, Acid, Plasma, Steam, Mana up to 4 points, Acuity up to 6x. This would be some sort of limited distribution, such as a service, a prize for a quest, something raffled off, or found via the Treasure System. Items in here could also appear as "auction quality" depending on their other attributes.

			Rare Flares: These include material-based flares and effects (such as [[kroderine]] or [[adamantine]]), as well as scripted flares, like Knockout, Snake Flares, Bubble Flares, etc. Mana up to 5 points, and Acuity up to 10x fall into this category. These would also be some sort of limited distribution, but this category covers a much wider range than the Uncommon Flares. Some things in here could be auction quality all on their own (a +50 acuity runestaff, for example), or auction quality in conjunction with their other properties.

			For flares like Acuity and Mana, we can offer large amounts as auction or raffle quality items. However, we also like to make it a build-up service; something that can be worked towards over multiple events instead of just jumping right to the top.

	==Flares II==		==Flares II==

VANKRASN39: VANKRASN39 moved page Runestaff (saved post) to Runestaff (saved posts)

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2015-07-13T19:13:20Z

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	Lastly, sonic runestaves have been updated to flare less often when casting a spell vs. using the weapon for a melee attack. In addition, the lore bonus for sonic runestaves will only count 2/3 of the Bard's lore when calculating its chance to flare when casting a spell. This aligns with the other runestaff flare mechanics which have a reduced chance to flare vs. a normal weapon since spells are typically cast faster.		Lastly, sonic runestaves have been updated to flare less often when casting a spell vs. using the weapon for a melee attack. In addition, the lore bonus for sonic runestaves will only count 2/3 of the Bard's lore when calculating its chance to flare when casting a spell. This aligns with the other runestaff flare mechanics which have a reduced chance to flare vs. a normal weapon since spells are typically cast faster.

	GameMaster Estild~~<br>~~		GameMaster Estild

	Cleric/Empath Team
			==Name Alternatives==
			{{saved-post
			\| category = Hunting and Combat
			\| topic = Runestaffs and Magical Staves
			\| messagenum = 776
			\| author = GS4-WARDEN
			\| date = 5/14/2008 6:12:32 PM
			\| subject = Runestaff Name Alternatives
			}}The weapon naming standards for [[Runestaff\|runestaves]] have been revised to include the following alternatives:

			crook<br>
			crosier<br>
			pastoral staff<br>
			rune staff<br>
			scepter<br>
			staff<br>

			All are available for General Use (as opposed to being Alteration Only). The website entry for runestaves will be updated to reflect this change.

			Warden

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2014-12-31T19:28:57Z

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