Song of Unravelling (1013) - Revision history

NAAMIT: Added usage log

2023-09-01T19:48:20Z

Added usage log

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 Unlike [[Mana Leech (516)|other mana draining spells]], Song of Unravelling allows the singer to exceed their normal maximum mana, and there is no similar recovery period during which mana cannot be drained.  Caution is advised, though, as too far over the normal maximum will result in a potentially fatal magical backlash.  The 'safe' maximum appears to be +50%, based on one accident and one death-by-research.  (The accident was a character with ~100 mana going above 150, and died.  The test server being open allowed a test on a character with 249 base mana, and draining to at least 366 left him still alive; the next drain killed him, and +50% would be 373 mana.)  So Bards are warned, when draining to over their maximum.
-==== Renewal Cost ====
+=== Renewal Cost ===
 [[mana]] (MP), adjusted for the target's spell circle and spell level.
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 * While targeting specific spells from a target, the spell is not renewable at all (i.e. one cast, one attempt).
 * If the Bard's medley renews while Unravel is active, the spell ''benefit'' stops, but the spell itself is still considered running; the Bard must 'stop Unravel' (or wait out the remainder of the duration) before being able to cast it again, at the same or a different target.
 == Messaging==

GS4-XERAPHINA at 05:32, 18 January 2023

2023-01-18T05:32:30Z

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	'''Song of Unravelling''' will dispel a targeted spell or random spell on a target, if available. A penalty to the target's warding attempt is based on the singer's [[Bard Base]] ranks. Targeted attempts do not receive the full benefit of this bonus, are more difficult to achieve versus spiritual spells, and are progressively harder against higher level spells. [[Arcane Decoy (1701)]] makes targeted attempts even more difficult, and will be targeted first if Song of Unravelling is untargeted. Only [[Bard]]s may use the targeted version of this spell.		<section begin=description /><noinclude>'''Song of Unravelling''' will dispel</noinclude><includeonly>Dispels</includeonly> a targeted spell or random spell on a target, if available.<section end=description /> A penalty to the target's warding attempt is based on the singer's [[Bard Base]] ranks. Targeted attempts do not receive the full benefit of this bonus, are more difficult to achieve versus spiritual spells, and are progressively harder against higher level spells. [[Arcane Decoy (1701)]] makes targeted attempts even more difficult, and will be targeted first if Song of Unravelling is untargeted. Only [[Bard]]s may use the targeted version of this spell.
	* The spell does not always take 13 mana upon casting at a target wearing Out-of-Sphere spells. It appears that the Out-of-Sphere penalty is applied as though the spell were being renewed--to include the 'base cost' being only the 4 mana cost of a renew--even when starting the Song against a new target. (i.e. If you 'prep Unravel/cast stone troll', a creature that uses Ranger spells, the mana cost to take down the first one may well be only 8 or 9 mana [== 4 renewal cost +4 or +5 for the Out-of-Sphere & level difficulty of the spell affected].) Estild confirmed in December 2016 that while it may ''be'' a bug, it had been operating that way for 10+ years and so it was being considered "working as intended".		* The spell does not always take 13 mana upon casting at a target wearing Out-of-Sphere spells. It appears that the Out-of-Sphere penalty is applied as though the spell were being renewed--to include the 'base cost' being only the 4 mana cost of a renew--even when starting the Song against a new target. (i.e. If you 'prep Unravel/cast stone troll', a creature that uses Ranger spells, the mana cost to take down the first one may well be only 8 or 9 mana [== 4 renewal cost +4 or +5 for the Out-of-Sphere & level difficulty of the spell affected].) Estild confirmed in December 2016 that while it may ''be'' a bug, it had been operating that way for 10+ years and so it was being considered "working as intended".

KRAKII at 19:57, 4 June 2018

2018-06-04T19:57:30Z

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 The scroll buzzes and vibrates for a moment then stops.
 </pre>
 == Resources ==

KRAKII: removed 'Realm' references in favor of 'Sphere', taking out the 20+ year out of date RoleMaster references

2017-12-13T19:15:56Z

removed 'Realm' references in favor of 'Sphere', taking out the 20+ year out of date RoleMaster references

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	'''Song of Unravelling''' will dispel a targeted spell or random spell on a target, if available. A penalty to the target's warding attempt is based on the singer's [[Bard Base]] ranks. Targeted attempts do not receive the full benefit of this bonus, are more difficult to achieve versus spiritual spells, and are progressively harder against higher level spells. [[Arcane Decoy (1701)]] makes targeted attempts even more difficult, and will be targeted first if Song of Unravelling is untargeted. Only [[Bard]]s may use the targeted version of this spell.		'''Song of Unravelling''' will dispel a targeted spell or random spell on a target, if available. A penalty to the target's warding attempt is based on the singer's [[Bard Base]] ranks. Targeted attempts do not receive the full benefit of this bonus, are more difficult to achieve versus spiritual spells, and are progressively harder against higher level spells. [[Arcane Decoy (1701)]] makes targeted attempts even more difficult, and will be targeted first if Song of Unravelling is untargeted. Only [[Bard]]s may use the targeted version of this spell.
	* The spell does not always take 13 mana upon casting at a target wearing Out-of-~~Realm~~ spells. It appears that the Out-of-~~Realm~~ penalty is applied as though the spell were being renewed--to include the 'base cost' being only the 4 mana cost of a renew--even when starting the Song against a new target. (i.e. If you 'prep Unravel/cast stone troll', a creature that uses Ranger spells, the mana cost to take down the first one may well be only 8 or 9 mana [== 4 renewal cost +4 or +5 for the Out-of-~~Realm~~ & level difficulty of the spell affected].) Estild confirmed in December 2016 that while it may ''be'' a bug, it had been operating that way for 10+ years and so it was being considered "working as intended".		* The spell does not always take 13 mana upon casting at a target wearing Out-of-Sphere spells. It appears that the Out-of-Sphere penalty is applied as though the spell were being renewed--to include the 'base cost' being only the 4 mana cost of a renew--even when starting the Song against a new target. (i.e. If you 'prep Unravel/cast stone troll', a creature that uses Ranger spells, the mana cost to take down the first one may well be only 8 or 9 mana [== 4 renewal cost +4 or +5 for the Out-of-Sphere & level difficulty of the spell affected].) Estild confirmed in December 2016 that while it may ''be'' a bug, it had been operating that way for 10+ years and so it was being considered "working as intended".

	If no spells are active on the targeted player or creature, the song will try to drain mana from the target. The amount of mana drained per attempt is based on the singer's Bard Base ranks. The amount of mana recovered is based on the singer's Bard Base ranks and '''[[Mental Mana Control]]''' skill.		If no spells are active on the targeted player or creature, the song will try to drain mana from the target. The amount of mana drained per attempt is based on the singer's Bard Base ranks. The amount of mana recovered is based on the singer's Bard Base ranks and '''[[Mental Mana Control]]''' skill.
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	* This song does not auto-renew, only manually.		* This song does not auto-renew, only manually.
	* If the song is dispelling random spells or draining mana from a character/creature/object, it may be manually renewed for the duration of the song and will continue to target the original target.		* If the song is dispelling random spells or draining mana from a character/creature/object, it may be manually renewed for the duration of the song and will continue to target the original target.
	* Out-of-~~Realm~~ (i.e. "Spirit") spells typically require more mana, depending on the level of the spell. 6, 8, or 9 mana renewal costs are not unusual when facing Ranger-, Cleric-, or Paladin-based opponents.		* Out-of-Sphere (i.e. "Spirit") spells typically require more mana, depending on the level of the spell. 6, 8, or 9 mana renewal costs are not unusual when facing Ranger-, Cleric-, or Paladin-based opponents.
	* While targeting specific spells from a target, the spell is not renewable at all (i.e. one cast, one attempt).		* While targeting specific spells from a target, the spell is not renewable at all (i.e. one cast, one attempt).
	* If the Bard's medley renews while Unravel is active, the spell ''benefit'' stops, but the spell itself is still considered running; the Bard must 'stop Unravel' (or wait out the remainder of the duration) before being able to cast it again, at the same or a different target.		* If the Bard's medley renews while Unravel is active, the spell ''benefit'' stops, but the spell itself is still considered running; the Bard must 'stop Unravel' (or wait out the remainder of the duration) before being able to cast it again, at the same or a different target.

KRAKII: documented additional mana-cost screwiness

2017-12-11T21:46:27Z

documented additional mana-cost screwiness

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	'''Song of Unravelling''' will dispel a targeted spell or random spell on a target, if available. A penalty to the target's warding attempt is based on the singer's [[Bard Base]] ranks. Targeted attempts do not receive the full benefit of this bonus, are more difficult to achieve versus spiritual spells, and are progressively harder against higher level spells. [[Arcane Decoy (1701)]] makes targeted attempts even more difficult, and will be targeted first if Song of Unravelling is untargeted. Only [[Bard]]s may use the targeted version of this spell.		'''Song of Unravelling''' will dispel a targeted spell or random spell on a target, if available. A penalty to the target's warding attempt is based on the singer's [[Bard Base]] ranks. Targeted attempts do not receive the full benefit of this bonus, are more difficult to achieve versus spiritual spells, and are progressively harder against higher level spells. [[Arcane Decoy (1701)]] makes targeted attempts even more difficult, and will be targeted first if Song of Unravelling is untargeted. Only [[Bard]]s may use the targeted version of this spell.
			* The spell does not always take 13 mana upon casting at a target wearing Out-of-Realm spells. It appears that the Out-of-Realm penalty is applied as though the spell were being renewed--to include the 'base cost' being only the 4 mana cost of a renew--even when starting the Song against a new target. (i.e. If you 'prep Unravel/cast stone troll', a creature that uses Ranger spells, the mana cost to take down the first one may well be only 8 or 9 mana [== 4 renewal cost +4 or +5 for the Out-of-Realm & level difficulty of the spell affected].) Estild confirmed in December 2016 that while it may ''be'' a bug, it had been operating that way for 10+ years and so it was being considered "working as intended".

	If no spells are active on the targeted player or creature, the song will try to drain mana from the target. The amount of mana drained per attempt is based on the singer's Bard Base ranks. The amount of mana recovered is based on the singer's Bard Base ranks and '''[[Mental Mana Control]]''' skill.		If no spells are active on the targeted player or creature, the song will try to drain mana from the target. The amount of mana drained per attempt is based on the singer's Bard Base ranks. The amount of mana recovered is based on the singer's Bard Base ranks and '''[[Mental Mana Control]]''' skill.
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	* This song does not auto-renew, only manually.		* This song does not auto-renew, only manually.
	* If the song is dispelling random spells or draining mana from a character/creature/object, it may be manually renewed for the duration of the song and will continue to target the original target.		* If the song is dispelling random spells or draining mana from a character/creature/object, it may be manually renewed for the duration of the song and will continue to target the original target.
			* Out-of-Realm (i.e. "Spirit") spells typically require more mana, depending on the level of the spell. 6, 8, or 9 mana renewal costs are not unusual when facing Ranger-, Cleric-, or Paladin-based opponents.
	* While targeting specific spells from a target, the spell is not renewable at all (i.e. one cast, one attempt).		* While targeting specific spells from a target, the spell is not renewable at all (i.e. one cast, one attempt).
	* If the Bard's medley renews while Unravel is active, the spell ''benefit'' stops, but the spell itself is still considered running; the Bard must 'stop Unravel' (or wait out the remainder of the duration) before being able to cast it again, at the same or a different target.		* If the Bard's medley renews while Unravel is active, the spell ''benefit'' stops, but the spell itself is still considered running; the Bard must 'stop Unravel' (or wait out the remainder of the duration) before being able to cast it again, at the same or a different target.

KRAKII: /* Renewal Cost */ clarified some of Unravel's screwiness

2017-12-11T21:35:35Z

Renewal Cost: clarified some of Unravel's screwiness

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	4 [[mana]] (MP), adjusted for the target's spell circle and spell level.		4 [[mana]] (MP), adjusted for the target's spell circle and spell level.

			* This song does not auto-renew, only manually.
	~~This song does not auto-renew.~~ If the song is dispelling random spells or draining mana from a character/creature/object, it may be manually renewed for the duration of the song and will continue to target the original target~~. Unravelling targeting spells from a target is not renewable in any form~~.		* If the song is dispelling random spells or draining mana from a character/creature/object, it may be manually renewed for the duration of the song and will continue to target the original target.
			* While targeting specific spells from a target, the spell is not renewable at all (i.e. one cast, one attempt).
			* If the Bard's medley renews while Unravel is active, the spell ''benefit'' stops, but the spell itself is still considered running; the Bard must 'stop Unravel' (or wait out the remainder of the duration) before being able to cast it again, at the same or a different target.

	== Messaging==		== Messaging==

KRAKII: updated for more conclusive mana-draining research

2017-12-10T23:54:35Z

updated for more conclusive mana-draining research

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	Versus a magic item, the song will drain charges from the item and convert to mana. The same factors apply. Mana from non-elemental sources will be less efficient than from elemental sources.		Versus a magic item, the song will drain charges from the item and convert to mana. The same factors apply. Mana from non-elemental sources will be less efficient than from elemental sources.

	Unlike [[Mana Leech (516)\|other mana draining spells]], Song of Unravelling allows the singer to exceed their normal maximum mana, and there is no similar recovery period during which mana cannot be drained. Caution is advised, though, as too far over the normal maximum will result in a potentially fatal magical backlash. ~~(This~~ ~~was~~ ~~encountered~~ ~~when~~ a character with ~100 mana ~~went~~ above 150, and died. The ~~lethal~~ ~~limit~~ being ~~applied~~ ~~''may''~~ ~~therefor~~ be ~~"+50%";~~ or it ~~''may''~~ be ~~the~~ ~~normal~~ ~~Enhancive~~ ~~limit~~ to ~~stat~~ ~~values,~~ of ~~"+50~~ ~~over~~ ~~max".~~ ~~That~~ ~~same~~ ~~character~~ ~~has~~ ~~not yet chosen test it with higher mana by courting another death~~, and ~~no-one~~ ~~else~~ ~~has~~ ~~volunteered~~ ~~any~~ ~~differing results,~~ so Bards are ~~cautioned~~ when draining to over their maximum.)		Unlike [[Mana Leech (516)\|other mana draining spells]], Song of Unravelling allows the singer to exceed their normal maximum mana, and there is no similar recovery period during which mana cannot be drained. Caution is advised, though, as too far over the normal maximum will result in a potentially fatal magical backlash. The 'safe' maximum appears to be +50%, based on one accident and one death-by-research. (The accident was a character with ~100 mana going above 150, and died. The test server being open allowed a test on a character with 249 base mana, and draining to at least 366 left him still alive; the next drain killed him, and +50% would be 373 mana.) So Bards are warned, when draining to over their maximum.

	==== Renewal Cost ====		==== Renewal Cost ====

VANKRASN39: update links

2017-03-17T20:29:03Z

update links

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	Versus a magic item, the song will drain charges from the item and convert to mana. The same factors apply. Mana from non-elemental sources will be less efficient than from elemental sources.		Versus a magic item, the song will drain charges from the item and convert to mana. The same factors apply. Mana from non-elemental sources will be less efficient than from elemental sources.

	Unlike [[(Mana Leech (516)\|other mana draining spells]], Song of Unravelling allows the singer to exceed their normal maximum mana, and there is no similar recovery period during which mana cannot be drained. Caution is advised, though, as too far over the normal maximum will result in a potentially fatal magical backlash. (This was encountered when a character with ~100 mana went above 150, and died. The lethal limit being applied ''may'' therefor be "+50%"; or it ''may'' be the normal Enhancive limit to stat values, of "+50 over max". That same character has not yet chosen test it with higher mana by courting another death, and no-one else has volunteered any differing results, so Bards are cautioned when draining to over their maximum.)		Unlike [[Mana Leech (516)\|other mana draining spells]], Song of Unravelling allows the singer to exceed their normal maximum mana, and there is no similar recovery period during which mana cannot be drained. Caution is advised, though, as too far over the normal maximum will result in a potentially fatal magical backlash. (This was encountered when a character with ~100 mana went above 150, and died. The lethal limit being applied ''may'' therefor be "+50%"; or it ''may'' be the normal Enhancive limit to stat values, of "+50 over max". That same character has not yet chosen test it with higher mana by courting another death, and no-one else has volunteered any differing results, so Bards are cautioned when draining to over their maximum.)

	==== Renewal Cost ====		==== Renewal Cost ====
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	== Messaging==		== Messaging==
	;Against an adventurer		'''Against an adventurer
	<pre{{log2\|margin-right=35%}}>		<pre{{log2\|margin-right=35%}}>
	A siren begins singing a sweet song.		A siren begins singing a sweet song.
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	</pre>		</pre>

	;Draining a wand		'''Draining a wand
	<pre{{log2\|margin-right=35%}}>		<pre{{log2\|margin-right=35%}}>
	You sing a melody, directing the sound of your voice at a twisted wand.		You sing a melody, directing the sound of your voice at a twisted wand.
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	</pre>		</pre>

	;Item that cannot be Unraveled:		'''Item that cannot be Unraveled:
	<pre{{log2\|margin-right=35%}}>		<pre{{log2\|margin-right=35%}}>
	You sing a melody, directing the sound of your voice at a golden scroll.		You sing a melody, directing the sound of your voice at a golden scroll.
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	== Resources ==		== Resources ==
			*[[Bard Base/saved posts#Unravel\|Saved posts]]
	* [http://www.play.net/gs4/info/spells/spelllist.asp?circle=10#1013 Bard Base Spell Circle: Song of Unravelling], on Play.net

	[[Category:Utility Spells]]		[[Category:Utility Spells]]

KRAKII: clarified the "more than max" section when I realized that my source datum only had 100 mana to begin with, so "+50%" and the Enhancive limit of "+50" equaled the same thing.

2016-12-06T16:48:55Z

clarified the "more than max" section when I realized that my source datum only had 100 mana to begin with, so "+50%" and the Enhancive limit of "+50" equaled the same thing.

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	Versus a magic item, the song will drain charges from the item and convert to mana. The same factors apply. Mana from non-elemental sources will be less efficient than from elemental sources.		Versus a magic item, the song will drain charges from the item and convert to mana. The same factors apply. Mana from non-elemental sources will be less efficient than from elemental sources.

	Unlike other mana draining spells, Song of Unravelling allows the singer to exceed their normal maximum mana. Caution is advised, though, as ~~reaching~~ ~~150%~~ of the normal maximum will result in a potentially fatal magical backlash.		Unlike [[(Mana Leech (516)\|other mana draining spells]], Song of Unravelling allows the singer to exceed their normal maximum mana, and there is no similar recovery period during which mana cannot be drained. Caution is advised, though, as too far over the normal maximum will result in a potentially fatal magical backlash. (This was encountered when a character with ~100 mana went above 150, and died. The lethal limit being applied ''may'' therefor be "+50%"; or it ''may'' be the normal Enhancive limit to stat values, of "+50 over max". That same character has not yet chosen test it with higher mana by courting another death, and no-one else has volunteered any differing results, so Bards are cautioned when draining to over their maximum.)

	==== Renewal Cost ====		==== Renewal Cost ====

VANKRASN39 at 16:18, 8 April 2016

2016-04-08T16:18:54Z

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	4 [[mana]] (MP), adjusted for the target's spell circle and spell level.		4 [[mana]] (MP), adjusted for the target's spell circle and spell level.

	This song is not auto-~~renewable~~. If the song is dispelling random spells or draining mana from a character/creature/object, it may be manually renewed for the duration of the song and will continue to target the original target. Unravelling targeting spells from a target is not renewable in any form.		This song does not auto-renew. If the song is dispelling random spells or draining mana from a character/creature/object, it may be manually renewed for the duration of the song and will continue to target the original target. Unravelling targeting spells from a target is not renewable in any form.

	== Messaging==		== Messaging==