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	*[[:Category: Group Spells\|GROUP]] and [[1700s\|ARCANE]] spells do NOT count toward spellburst. [[Mass spells]], however, do count for spellburst. Also, offensive spells that show up in the SPELL ACTIVE list do not count toward spellburst. The following is a list of spells known to show up in the SPELL ACTIVE list that do not count toward spellburst.		*[[:Category: Group Spells\|GROUP]] and [[1700s\|ARCANE]] spells do NOT count toward spellburst. [[Mass spells]], however, do count for spellburst. Also, offensive spells that show up in the SPELL ACTIVE list do not count toward spellburst. The following is a list of spells known to show up in the SPELL ACTIVE list that do not count toward spellburst.

	:[[201]], [[210]], [[212]], [[214]], [[216]], [[307]], [[310]], [[311]], [[316]], [[412]], [[413]], [[501]], [[504]], [[607]], [[703]], [[706]], [[713]], [[715]], [[716]], [[1001]], [[1005]], [[1015]], [[1016]], [[1117]], [[1120]], [[1125]], [[1605]], [[1609]], [[1617]], [[1618]]		:[[201]], [[210]], [[212]], [[214]], [[216]], [[307]], [[310]], [[311]], [[316]], [[412]], [[413]], [[501]], [[504]], [[607]], [[703]], [[706]], [[713]], [[715]], [[716]], [[735]], [[1001]], [[1005]], [[1015]], [[1016]], [[1117]], [[1120]], [[1125]], [[1605]], [[1609]], [[1617]], [[1618]]

	===Sample Calculation===		===Sample Calculation===

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	{{TOCright}}'''Spellburst''' is a balancing mechanic for higher level hunting areas to manage the amount of outside spells a character can wear in the affected areas. ~~Those areas are the [[Griffin's Keen]], [[Temple Wyneb]] (Skull temple), [[Old Ta'Faendryl]], the [[Ruined Temple]] (Nelemar) on Teras, and [[Sanctum of Scales]].~~ Spellburst penalizes characters under the effects of too many beneficial spells outside of their profession's spell circles, causing [[hitpoint]] and [[critical]] damage or even death.		{{TOCright}}'''Spellburst''' is a balancing mechanic for higher level hunting areas to manage the amount of outside spells a character can wear in the affected areas. Spellburst penalizes characters under the effects of too many beneficial spells outside of their profession's spell circles, causing [[hitpoint]] and [[critical]] damage or even death.

			{\| {{prettytable}}
			\|-bgcolor=lightblue
			!Area Name\|\|Level<br>Start\|\|Level<br>End
			\|-style="vertical-align:top;"
			\| [[:Category:Griffin's Keen creatures \| Griffin's Keen]] \|\| 64 \|\| 73
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			\| [[:Category:Temple Wyneb creatures \| Temple Wyneb]] \|\| 66 \|\| 77
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			\| [[:Category:Old Ta'Faendryl creatures \| Old Ta'Faendryl]] \|\| 82 \|\| 102
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			\| [[:Category:Ruined Temple creatures \| Ruined Temple/Nelemar]] \|\| 92 \|\| 105
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			\| [[:Category:Sanctum creatures \| Sanctum]] \|\| 96 \|\| 102
			\|}

	==Player Research==		==Player Research==

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	All values are Skill RANKS, not Skill BONUS.		All values are Skill RANKS, not Skill BONUS.

	{{Equation box\|1=Wearable Mana = (AS + MIU + HP + SA) + 0.5(Mana Controls + Lores) * (225.0 / level)}}		{{Equation box\|1=Wearable Mana = ((AS + MIU + HP + SA) + 0.5(Mana Controls + Lores)) / (225.0 / level)}}

	Worn mana should be calculated as follows:		Worn mana should be calculated as follows:

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Player Research

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	All values are Skill RANKS, not Skill BONUS.		All values are Skill RANKS, not Skill BONUS.

	{{~~equation~~ box\|~~<math>\mathrm{[~~Wearable\ Mana]} = ~~\frac{~~(AS + MIU + HP + SA) + 0.5([Mana\ Controls] + Lores)}{(225.0 / level)~~}</math>~~}}		{{Equation box\|1=Wearable Mana = (AS + MIU + HP + SA) + 0.5(Mana Controls + Lores) * (225.0 / level)}}

	Worn mana should be calculated as follows:		Worn mana should be calculated as follows:

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	==Player Research==		==Player Research==
			:<small>This section is what players have been using for years until a better description is provided. For additional research that incorporates usage with the ;burst_calc Lich script, see [[Research:Spellburst\|here]]</small>

	Training in magical skills will help to increase the amount of outside spells a character can safely wear in a spellburst environment:		Training in magical skills will help to increase the amount of outside spells a character can safely wear in a spellburst environment:

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	:Example: Our locksmith rogue with self-cast lores has received some guards. (spell [[414]]) Since the 400s circle is learnable by rogues, the spell value of [[414]] for the rogue is 7 mana.		:Example: Our locksmith rogue with self-cast lores has received some guards. (spell [[414]]) Since the 400s circle is learnable by rogues, the spell value of [[414]] for the rogue is 7 mana.

	*Certain spells are weighted heavier than other spells. For instance, elemental spells seem to burst 0.5 mana sooner than spiritual spells. Spells with a spellburst mana cost of 9+ seem to be extra volatile as well. Examples are [[Strength]], [[Mass ~~Blurs~~]], [[Mobility]], [[Bravery]], [[Heroism]].		*Certain spells are weighted heavier than other spells. For instance, elemental spells seem to burst 0.5 mana sooner than spiritual spells. Spells with a spellburst mana cost of 9+ seem to be extra volatile as well. Examples are [[Strength]], [[Mass Blur]], [[Mobility]], [[Bravery]], [[Heroism]].

	*[[:Category: Group Spells\|GROUP]] and [[1700s\|ARCANE]] spells do NOT count toward spellburst. [[Mass spells]], however, do count for spellburst. Also, offensive spells that show up in the SPELL ACTIVE list do not count toward spellburst. The following is a list of spells known to show up in the SPELL ACTIVE list that do not count toward spellburst.		*[[:Category: Group Spells\|GROUP]] and [[1700s\|ARCANE]] spells do NOT count toward spellburst. [[Mass spells]], however, do count for spellburst. Also, offensive spells that show up in the SPELL ACTIVE list do not count toward spellburst. The following is a list of spells known to show up in the SPELL ACTIVE list that do not count toward spellburst.

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	'''Spellburst''' is a balancing mechanic for higher level hunting areas to manage the amount of outside spells a character can wear in the affected areas. Those areas are the [[Griffin's Keen]], [[Temple Wyneb]] (Skull temple), [[Old Ta'Faendryl]], the [[Ruined Temple]] (Nelemar) on Teras, and [[Sanctum of Scales]]. Spellburst penalizes characters under the effects of too many beneficial spells outside of their profession's spell circles, causing [[hitpoint]] and [[critical]] damage or even death.		{{TOCright}}'''Spellburst''' is a balancing mechanic for higher level hunting areas to manage the amount of outside spells a character can wear in the affected areas. Those areas are the [[Griffin's Keen]], [[Temple Wyneb]] (Skull temple), [[Old Ta'Faendryl]], the [[Ruined Temple]] (Nelemar) on Teras, and [[Sanctum of Scales]]. Spellburst penalizes characters under the effects of too many beneficial spells outside of their profession's spell circles, causing [[hitpoint]] and [[critical]] damage or even death.


			==Player Research==
	Training in magical skills will help to increase the amount of outside spells a character can safely wear in a spellburst environment:		Training in magical skills will help to increase the amount of outside spells a character can safely wear in a spellburst environment:

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	:[[201]], [[210]], [[212]], [[214]], [[216]], [[307]], [[310]], [[311]], [[316]], [[412]], [[413]], [[501]], [[504]], [[607]], [[703]], [[706]], [[713]], [[715]], [[716]], [[1001]], [[1005]], [[1015]], [[1016]], [[1117]], [[1120]], [[1125]], [[1605]], [[1609]], [[1617]], [[1618]]		:[[201]], [[210]], [[212]], [[214]], [[216]], [[307]], [[310]], [[311]], [[316]], [[412]], [[413]], [[501]], [[504]], [[607]], [[703]], [[706]], [[713]], [[715]], [[716]], [[1001]], [[1005]], [[1015]], [[1016]], [[1117]], [[1120]], [[1125]], [[1605]], [[1609]], [[1617]], [[1618]]

	==Sample Calculation==		===Sample Calculation===

	Level 75, rogue, 24 AS, 24 MIU, 31 HP, 20 SMC, 20 EMC ranks, knows to spell [[404]].		Level 75, rogue, 24 AS, 24 MIU, 31 HP, 20 SMC, 20 EMC ranks, knows to spell [[404]].
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	Let's assume we are dealing with the initial skills set of the level 75 rogue with 4 minor elemental ranks. The wearable outside mana came to be 33. It is important to manage what spells fill that 33 mana, as some spells are quite costly with minimal benefits. Since both the 100s and 400s circles are learnable by the rogue, it's probably best to add those spells first. [[101]], [[103]], [[107]], [[406]], [[414]]. Those spells, all combined have a mana value of 31, 15.5 when halved. Subtract that from the initial 33 total, and we have 17.5 mana to add. If you have 601, 202, 503, 509, that's a quick 15 mana, leaving 2.5 extra wearable mana as a buffer, which is good.		Let's assume we are dealing with the initial skills set of the level 75 rogue with 4 minor elemental ranks. The wearable outside mana came to be 33. It is important to manage what spells fill that 33 mana, as some spells are quite costly with minimal benefits. Since both the 100s and 400s circles are learnable by the rogue, it's probably best to add those spells first. [[101]], [[103]], [[107]], [[406]], [[414]]. Those spells, all combined have a mana value of 31, 15.5 when halved. Subtract that from the initial 33 total, and we have 17.5 mana to add. If you have 601, 202, 503, 509, that's a quick 15 mana, leaving 2.5 extra wearable mana as a buffer, which is good.

	==Conclusion==		===Conclusion===
	In closing: The information above is as accurate and simply put as I can give it. There are some gray areas in the research, and the formula, and in how to calculate each individual spell value. Spells that constantly cause oddities for me were [[509]], [[911]], [[215]], [[211]], [[219]], [[618]], [[313]], [[913]], [[513]], off the top of my head. Simply adding 0.5 mana to their base value seemed to help remedy some of the problems with the calculations. Good luck! Burst less!		In closing: The information above is as accurate and simply put as I can give it. There are some gray areas in the research, and the formula, and in how to calculate each individual spell value. Spells that constantly cause oddities for me were [[509]], [[911]], [[215]], [[211]], [[219]], [[618]], [[313]], [[913]], [[513]], off the top of my head. Simply adding 0.5 mana to their base value seemed to help remedy some of the problems with the calculations. Good luck! Burst less!

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	'''Spellburst''' is a balancing mechanic for higher level hunting areas to manage the amount of outside spells a character can wear in the affected areas. Those areas are the [[Griffin's Keen]], [[Temple Wyneb]] (Skull temple), [[Old Ta'Faendryl]], the [[Ruined Temple]] (Nelemar) on Teras, and [[Sanctum of Scales]]. Spellburst penalizes characters under the effects of too many beneficial spells outside of their profession's spell circles, causing [[hitpoint]] and [[critical]] damage or even death.		'''Spellburst''' is a balancing mechanic for higher level hunting areas to manage the amount of outside spells a character can wear in the affected areas. Those areas are the [[Griffin's Keen]], [[Temple Wyneb]] (Skull temple), [[Old Ta'Faendryl]], the [[Ruined Temple]] (Nelemar) on Teras, and [[Sanctum of Scales]]. Spellburst penalizes characters under the effects of too many beneficial spells outside of their profession's spell circles, causing [[hitpoint]] and [[critical]] damage or even death.


	Training in magical skills will help to increase the amount of outside spells a character can safely wear in a spellburst environment:		Training in magical skills will help to increase the amount of outside spells a character can safely wear in a spellburst environment:

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	'''Spellburst''' is a balancing mechanic for higher level hunting areas to manage the amount of outside spells a character can wear in the ~~areas that~~ ~~Spellburst effects~~. Those areas are the Keen, ~~including~~ Wyneb ~~Temple~~ (Skull temple), Old Ta'Faendryl, the [[Ruined Temple]] (Nelemar) on Teras, and ~~the~~ [[Sanctum of Scales]]. ~~Failure~~ to ~~observe~~ ~~this~~ ~~feature~~ ~~can~~ ~~result~~ in ~~outside~~ spells ~~being~~ ~~violently~~ ~~torn~~ ~~from~~ ~~the~~ ~~player~~, causing HP and critical damage, ~~and~~ ~~possibly resulting in the character's~~ death~~. Training in magical skills will help to increase the amount of outside spells a character can safely wear in a spellburst environment~~.		'''Spellburst''' is a balancing mechanic for higher level hunting areas to manage the amount of outside spells a character can wear in the affected areas. Those areas are the [[Griffin's Keen]], [[Temple Wyneb]] (Skull temple), [[Old Ta'Faendryl]], the [[Ruined Temple]] (Nelemar) on Teras, and [[Sanctum of Scales]]. Spellburst penalizes characters under the effects of too many beneficial spells outside of their profession's spell circles, causing [[hitpoint]] and [[critical]] damage or even death.

			Training in magical skills will help to increase the amount of outside spells a character can safely wear in a spellburst environment:
⚫	The following formula seems to be accurate up to half ~~your~~ level in wearable outside mana. It is ~~well~~ ~~known~~ ~~that the current formula goes~~ ~~bogus~~ once the result is over half ~~your~~ level in wearable mana.

			{\| {{prettytable}}
⚫	All values are Skill RANKS, not Skill BONUS.
			\|-bgcolor=lightblue
			!All Ranks Benefit\|\|Half of Ranks Benefit
			\|-style="vertical-align:top;"
			\|
			*[[Arcane Symbols]] (AS)
			*[[Magic Item Use]] (MIU)
			*[[Harness Power]] (HP)
			*[[Spell Aiming]] (SA)
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			*[[Mana Control]]s
			*[[Lore]]s
			\|}
		⚫	The following formula seems to be accurate up to half one's level in wearable outside mana. This formula goes is not accurate once the result is over half one's level in wearable mana.

		⚫	All values are Skill RANKS, not Skill BONUS.
⚫	~~<div~~ {{~~prettydiv~~\|~~margin-right=350px}}>~~<~~center~~>~~<tt>'''~~Wearable ~~mana~~ = [(AS + MIU + HP + SA) + 0.5(Controls + ~~lores~~)~~] /~~ (225.0 / level)~~'''~~</~~tt></center></div~~>

		⚫	{{equation box\|<math>\mathrm{[Wearable\ Mana]} = \frac{(AS + MIU + HP + SA) + 0.5([Mana\ Controls] + Lores)}{(225.0 / level)}</math>}}
⚫	Worn mana should be ~~calculatd~~ as follows:

		⚫	Worn mana should be calculated as follows:
	*No known spells will be counted toward ~~your~~ worn mana total.		*No known spells will be counted toward the worn mana total.
	:Example: A locksmith rogue who learned ~~locklore~~ ~~and~~ ~~traplore~~ will not be penalized for wearing [[401]], [[402]], ~~[[403]], or~~ [[~~404~~]] in a spellburst area.		:Example: A locksmith rogue who learned up to [[Disarm Enhancement (404)]] will not be penalized for wearing that spell or the lower 3 spells ([[401]], [[402]], and [[403]]) in a spellburst area.

	*Learnable spells have their mana values halved for spellburst calculations.		*Learnable spells have their mana values halved for spellburst calculations.
	:Example: Our locksmith rogue with self-cast lores has ~~recieved~~ some guards. (spell [[414]]) Since the 400s circle is learnable by rogues, the spell value of [[414]] for the rogue is 7 mana.		:Example: Our locksmith rogue with self-cast lores has received some guards. (spell [[414]]) Since the 400s circle is learnable by rogues, the spell value of [[414]] for the rogue is 7 mana.

	*Certain spells are weighted heavier than other spells. For instance, elemental spells seem to burst 0.5 mana sooner than spiritual spells. Spells with a spellburst mana cost of 9+ seem to be extra ~~volitile~~ as well. Examples are ~~strength~~, ~~blurs~~, ~~mobiles~~, ~~bravery~~, ~~heroism~~.		*Certain spells are weighted heavier than other spells. For instance, elemental spells seem to burst 0.5 mana sooner than spiritual spells. Spells with a spellburst mana cost of 9+ seem to be extra volatile as well. Examples are [[Strength]], [[Mass Blurs]], [[Mobility]], [[Bravery]], [[Heroism]].

	*GROUP and [[1700s\|ARCANE]] spells do NOT count toward spellburst. Mass spells, however, do count for spellburst. Also, offensive spells that show up in the SPELL ACTIVE list do not count toward spellburst. The following is a list of spells known to show up in the SPELL ACTIVE list that do not count toward spellburst.		*[[:Category: Group Spells\|GROUP]] and [[1700s\|ARCANE]] spells do NOT count toward spellburst. [[Mass spells]], however, do count for spellburst. Also, offensive spells that show up in the SPELL ACTIVE list do not count toward spellburst. The following is a list of spells known to show up in the SPELL ACTIVE list that do not count toward spellburst.

	:[[201]], [[210]], [[212]], [[214]], [[216]], [[307]], [[310]], [[311]], [[316]], [[412]], [[413]], [[501]], [[504]], [[607]], [[703]], [[706]], [[713]], [[715]], [[716]], [[1001]], [[1005]], [[1015]], [[1016]], [[1117]], [[1120]], [[1125]], [[1605]], [[1609]], [[1617]], [[1618]],		:[[201]], [[210]], [[212]], [[214]], [[216]], [[307]], [[310]], [[311]], [[316]], [[412]], [[413]], [[501]], [[504]], [[607]], [[703]], [[706]], [[713]], [[715]], [[716]], [[1001]], [[1005]], [[1015]], [[1016]], [[1117]], [[1120]], [[1125]], [[1605]], [[1609]], [[1617]], [[1618]]

	==Sample Calculation==		==Sample Calculation==

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	==See Also==		==See Also==
	*[[Arcane/saved posts#Spellburst\|Arcane saved posts]]		*[[Arcane/saved posts#Spellburst\|Arcane saved posts]]
			*[[Research:Spellburst]]
	*[http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?71205-SPELLBURST-revisited-again Spellburst PC thread]		*[http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?71205-SPELLBURST-revisited-again Spellburst PC thread]