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	===Enhancing and battling===		===Enhancing and battling===
	'''At this point, you may also enhance your spirit beast with the flacons sold in the same shop you bought you talismans at.''' Each spirit beast can be ~~enhances~~ a maximum of 20 times, and as of now there is no way to undo what you enhance, so be careful.		'''At this point, you may also enhance your spirit beast with the flacons sold in the same shop you bought you talismans at.''' Each spirit beast can be enhanced a maximum of 20 times, and as of now there is no way to undo what you enhance, so be careful.

	'''To make your beast fight, you have to POINT TALISMAN AT character and they must do the same to you. This initiates a match.		'''To make your beast fight, you have to POINT TALISMAN AT character and they must do the same to you. This initiates a match.

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	Darn, I missed a tick in not making this system like M:TG. Think of all the silver it would have brought in if your beast choice was random on purchase? I didn't do that because I'm not a jerk. Well, I am, but not on that level. Right?		Darn, I missed a tick in not making this system like M:TG. Think of all the silver it would have brought in if your beast choice was random on purchase? I didn't do that because I'm not a jerk. Well, I am, but not on that level. Right?

			==Spirit Beasts 2.1==
			{{saved-post
			\| category = Game Design Discussions
			\| topic = Spirit Beasts
			\| messagenum = 56
			\| author = GS4-AUCHAND
			\| date = 03/14/2015 03:23 PM EDT
			\| subject = Spirit Beasts 2.1: Arenas!
			}}<i>Editor's note: '''[[Talondown Arena]]''' information appears on that page. Only Spirit Beast system info here.</i>

			Armaments, beast experience potions, and common and uncommon Spirit Beast enhancements are all available for purchase or winning at the Talondown Arena!

			Max Speed bonus now allows your beast to attack once every 7 seconds, up from 5. This was to compensate for the overwhelming speed of high-level fights, which were becoming a hindrance to strategizing even for experienced players. Speed ranks have been adjusted accordingly.

			To positively readjust the value of Speed, extremely high levels of Speed now qualify beasts for the "Blinding Speed" buff, which begins as a passive 3% boost to attack avoidance and climbs from there.

			Accuracy has now been considerably improved. Base special attack damage has been reduced slightly, but it is now boosted by Accuracy. Beasts with average levels of Accuracy should see no noticeable damage change, but those with high Accuracy will see more damage out of their special attacks. Furthermore, Accuracy now provides a chance to do more--but still reduced--damage while guarding.

			Experience 'til next is now shown on Spirit Beast talismans!

			==Spirit Beasts 2.0==
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			\| topic = Spirit Beasts
			\| messagenum = 15
			\| author = GS4-AUCHAND
			\| date = 03/06/2015 07:16 PM EST
			\| subject = Spirit Beasts 2.0 Release
			}}Some avid players of Spirit Beasts have noticed changes to their talismans today. There are quite a few updates as part of the 2.0 release, but the most pertinent one's you'll be seeing right now are:

			*'''Clearer Info''' - Numerical values now exist for all Spirit Beast stats, accompanied by rough values appropriate for in-character discussion.

			*'''Combat''' - It's been rebalanced around recent fight tracking to even out the gaps between certain overperforming and underperforming spirit beasts.

			*'''Spirit Beast Armaments''' - You'll now be able to collect and use armaments for your Spirit Beasts. These come in three different levels: Lesser, Sturdy, and Potent armaments. More powerful armaments can do things like allow your beast access to new skills; all armaments will modify its stats in new and interesting ways. PUT armaments in your talisman to add them, DISARM the talisman to remove them.

			*'''Level-matching''' - You can now FLIP your talisman and it will level match for lower-level beasts. Beasts will gain experience according to their actual levels, meaning that experienced Spirit Beast gladiators can help their friends gain experience more quickly.

			*'''Fight Notifications''' - RUBbing your talisman while it's worn will now tune you in to receive fight notifications as they happen across Elanthia.

			*'''New Spirit Beast Elements''' - Wild Magic (strong against spirit, weak against elements) and Rift Armament (strong against elements, weak against spirit).

			*'''New Spirit Beast Special Abilities''' - Frailty (weak against criticals), Troll's Tenacity (has a chance to struggle for life), and Leech (has a chance to drain health on normal attacks), all acquired through equipment.

			*'''Replacement Potions''' - Tired of your Spirit Beast? No problem! They can now be modified with replacement potions, which will trade out your existing beast with another of the same rarity level. All mechanical enhancements will be maintained. All physical customizations are removed by these.

			*'''Classes''' - Beasts are now sorted into classes: Humanoids, Beasts, Elementals, Arthropods, and Aberrations. This is ultra-important for armaments!

			Auchand

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	Once your first beast reaches its twentieth training (don't worry, that will take a bit) you'll be able to bind your first uncommon beast. Uncommon beasts are a bit harder to find, lurking in special locales. And once you've gotten one of those to its twentieth train, there are rumors abounding about legendary beasts that only exist in a single place. These will obviously take some serious hunting to find, but the good news is that you have pleeeeenty of work to do before then, now, don't you?		Once your first beast reaches its twentieth training (don't worry, that will take a bit) you'll be able to bind your first uncommon beast. Uncommon beasts are a bit harder to find, lurking in special locales. And once you've gotten one of those to its twentieth train, there are rumors abounding about legendary beasts that only exist in a single place. These will obviously take some serious hunting to find, but the good news is that you have pleeeeenty of work to do before then, now, don't you?

			==Q&A 1==
			{{saved-post
			\| category = Quests/Sagas/Events
			\| topic = Ebon Gate Festival
			\| messagenum = 6991
			\| author = GS4-AUCHAND
			\| date = 10/10/2014 2:13 PM EDT
			\| subject = Re: Ebon Gate Teaser: Spirit Beasts
			}}''How many different spirit beasts are there totally; including common, uncommon and legendary? We need to know how many pokeba... erm talismans to buy to collect them all.''

			There are currently 107 Spirit Beasts. Of those, 39 are common, 16 are uncommon, and 52 are legendary. If you want to be a Pokem--er, Battle Pet--er, Spirit Beast master, well... that would take quite a bit of time. Each talisman holds three Spirit Beasts: one common, one uncommon, and one rare. You have to reach max level with the common to bind an uncommon, and max level with the uncommon to bind a rare. Yeah, I know the numbers are a little skewed if legendary beasts make up a plurality of the system. This is because legendary beasts are found in individual rooms. Uncommon beasts are found in parts of areas (and no, not giving hints!) Common beasts are realm-wide except in towns.

			''Are there kobolds with katanas?''

			No, but if you're clever, you can use the system to find out exactly what happens when a kobold attempts to use advanced armor and weaponry. It's... not pretty. I'm only half-joking here.

			''What is the benefit of having high quality blood?''

			It makes offering a talisman to a beast a bit easier.

			''Off the shelf. Since there will be possibly some folks who cannot take all their characters to EG, is it possible to pick up talismans at EG to give to another character?''

			Yup!

			''Creature types. Does the talisman picked up affect the creature that can be summoned with it? So far, I've seen rat and roa'ter - will there be a list of creatures (common/uncommon) that we can find, or is that now an in-game puzzle and left to discovery?''

			As an immediate next project, I'm thinking about doing some sort of enchiridion (let's not call it a Pokedex) for people who'd like to collect information on beast locations. Finding all the common beasts should be relatively easy, as you can step outside a town and start attuning. Common beasts are available in the surroundings of Wehnimer's, Kharam Dzu, Solhaven, River's Rest, Icemule Trace, Zul Logoth, Pinefar, Ta'Vaalor, and Ta'Illistim.

			''Or, will this merchant come back in a month or so after we've had time to tinker?''

			I intend to make customization for the talismans broadly available. I'll probably restrict modification of the beasts themselves (i.e. special attacks, custom look descriptions) to me for a bit, as they're a little tough to do at the moment.

			''How will one know relative statistics of spirit creature, in order to best make use of stances and/or strategies?''

			This is a good question. In testing, I found that a high-power, low-intuition creature like a [[roa'ter]] could definitely get its butt kicked by even a low-health, speedy creature like a rat if played well. Insight is kind of a fun stat. But yeah, currently you can look at your talisman to get a readout of relative stats. Like this:

			''look talis''<BR>
			A simple clay talisman is currently attuned to a spectral thrak of 1 train.

			Its Power is high.<BR>
			Its Defense is low.<BR>
			Its Speed is low.<BR>
			Its Insight is moderate.<BR>
			Its Accuracy is moderate.<BR>
			Its Health is moderate.

			Its Power will grow slowly.<BR>
			Its Defense will grow quickly.<BR>
			Its Speed will grow at a moderate pace.<BR>
			Its Insight will grow at a moderate pace.<BR>
			Its Accuracy will grow at a moderate pace.<BR>
			Its Health will grow at a moderate pace.

			Its Insight has been enhanced by 1 points.

			''5) Potions for the spirit beast are temporary or permanent additions to creature's statistics?''

			Permanent. There's not currently a potion for clearing stat additions, but I'm thinking that'll be useful to have.

			''6) Binding common/uncommon. If I have a 20th level common rat spirit, that will enable my talisman to attract an uncommon creature (which, I assume, will be as powerful as a 20th level common rat spirit?). So.. the talisman can store multiple creatures.. or do the spirit creatures trade places?''

			The talismans hold three creatures, one of each tier. It's an unlock system, basically. And yeah, it's automatic.

			''Homelands''

			Darn, I missed a tick in not making this system like M:TG. Think of all the silver it would have brought in if your beast choice was random on purchase? I didn't do that because I'm not a jerk. Well, I am, but not on that level. Right?

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| category = Quests/Sagas/Events
| topic = Ebon Gate Festival
| messagenum = 6969
| author = GS4-AUCHAND
| date = 10/19/2014 12:29 AM EDT
| subject = Spirit Beasts Updates
}}I'm starting a running thread for any improvements to the Spirit Beasts system that will be coming out over the next few days, as players find bugs and quirks.

The following fixes and updates have been rolled out for Spirit Beasts:

* Blood vials should now be POURable without a target to remove any blood that's in them
* Last names should no longer be appearing as part of the stance checks
* Potions to clear enhancements are now available in Ilixil's Bestiary
* Improved the granularity of stat descriptions in the LOOK of talismans
* Level-based stat growth is now reflected in the LOOK of talismans
* Fixed a typo in air elemental vs. elemental messaging

A note on creature stats:

I've gotten a few questions emailed to me about how Spirit Beasts are statted. For the most part, the stat descriptions available from your creatures' talismans should be sufficient to determine its strengths and weaknesses, but in the interest of satisfying hungry minds, I'll spill the following. All Spirit Beasts begin with base level 1 stats ranging from 90 to 140 points, and can have stat growth levels from 1 to 4 points per level. In a talisman's LOOK, the (base stat + (stat growth * level)) is presented as a rough estimate of the stat, using the following criteria:

:Pathetic: Under 100
:Low: 100 to 115
:Moderate: 115 to 130
:Above Average: 130 to 145
:High: 145 to 160
:Very High: 160 to 175
:Extraordinary: 175 to 190
:Monumental: 190 to 210
:Godlike: 210+

'''Common''' Spirit Beasts have base level 1 stats ranging from 90 to 130 and have a growth potential from 1 to 3 points per level. This means that, at maximum, a common spirit beast with a fully potion-enhanced stat, maximum stat growth, and with a 130 base stat can achieve a 170, or "very high" rating for that stat. They have a stat pool of 635 points and a growth pool of 12 points. This means that when I was statting them out, I had that number of points to play with, with the stipulations that the stat numbers did not go above 130 or under 90, and the stat growth did not go over 3 or under 1.

'''Uncommon''' Spirit Beasts have a stat pool of 645 points and a growth pool of 14 points. They have a stat range from 90-140 and a growth range of 1-4 points. In addition, some (but not all) of them have access to unique abilities instead of the common ones.

'''Legendary''' Spirit Beasts have a stat pool of 655 points and a growth pool of 16 points. They have a stat range from 90-140 and a growth range of 1-4 points, but they all have unique special abilities like Sympathy, Bleed, Airwall, Bone Shield, and more cool stuff. Doing the math, a legendary beast's maximum enhanced stat could reach 220 provided that they started at 140 and had a growth potential of 4.

Enhanced stats are not counted in the LOOK of your Spirit Beast talisman.

A note on leveling beasts:

There are diminishing experience returns for playing the same player multiple times in a row in order to discourage scripting. Spreading the wealth is a good idea.

'''Auchand'''

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| topic = Ebon Gate Festival
| messagenum = 7323
| author = GS4-AUCHAND
| date = 10/20/2014 5:37 AM EDT
| subject = Re: Spirit Beasts Updates
}}Some more updates:
* Fixed a problem with stance information getting unset (this was causing people to see their last names or garbage information in place of stances; please email me at gs4-auchand@play.net if this persists!)
* Insight now provides a chance to auto-switch to counter your opponent
* Slightly raised the value of Defense
* Slightly increased penalty for being in the wrong stance when attacking
* Horses can now be bound in the Shadow Lands
* Two beasts can now be bound in Cysaegir
* Roltons now use the 'Stampede' special attack instead of 'False Security'
* Cinder Wasps now have access to the 'Stinging Swarm' special attack instead of 'Sky Rend'
* Foxes can now be bound in Pinefar
* Hounds can now be bound in Solhaven

'''Auchand'''

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| date = 10/20/2014 8:40 PM EDT
| subject = Re: Spirit Beasts Updates
}}* Adjustments have been made to how both Insight and Speed benefits are calculated, improving both stats because they were undervalued versus creatures of corresponding Defense or Power.
* Ebon Gate creatures added! Swamp witches, mire wights, giant mantises, and skeletal warriors are now available on the Ebon Gate grounds.
* Owls have been added to Pinefar.
* Manticores have been added to Wehnimer's Landing.

'''Auchand'''
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| subject = Re: Spirit Beasts Updates
}}* Wolves are now Timber Wolves.
* Timber Wolves and Wolfshades have access to the new "We Are Pack" special ability instead of "Bestial Fury."
* Hyenas and Jackals added to the Broken Lands.
* Spirit Beasts can now be bound on Four Winds Isle: snapping turtles, great tortoises, capuchin monkeys, and seagulls.

'''Auchand'''
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| topic = Ebon Gate Festival
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| author = GS4-AUCHAND
| date = 10/22/2014 12:30 AM EDT
| subject = Re: Spirit Beasts Updates
}}>do we need more blood for each tier as we go along (tier being common to uncommon to legendary) (the one I dont mind finding out on my own)

Nope. Same amount of blood. Don't let someone unskilled with MIU handle the pour, though, as they can still break!

>do they all share the same original enhancements since we just pour the flacons on the talisman itself? (The main question I have since I want to be sure I buy more flacons if that is the case)

Enhancements are stored separately. The ones for sale at EG only work on common spirit beasts.

>The potions sound like an excellent general alchemy item to me.

I agree. I don't have any sway over the alchemy system, but I'll suggest it.

''>Are the talismans destroyed sometimes on failure? Should I grab a few for the future?

>No, they aren't destroyed.''

'''The only time a talisman can be destroyed is if someone with insufficient MIU pours blood on it'''.

''>1. Does losing still progress them? If not, can it, at least a little?''

I don't plan on incentivizing losing at this time. I might eventually. They seem to be gaining levels fast enough already.

''>2. Is it weighted by level? So if my level 10 rolton beats a level 1 mantis, do I get much less progression for it, and vice versa?''

It is weighted by level. The good news is that reverse weighting is true as well, so if you defeat a beast that's much higher in level, you'll get more exp.

''>Also could we PLEASE declare the locations of the legendary spirit beasts an in game puzzle/secret and keep it off the boards?''

I would like that as well. Due to the incredible difficulty of finding them, I think I may release a compendium that gives rough clues, but we'll see how hard finding the Uncommon Beasts is for more people.

''>I am guessing that Rift beasts would fall in the uncommon or rare type categories''

There aren't any beasts in the Rift, but I imagine there will be.

'''Auchand'''
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| subject = Re: Spirit Beasts Updates
}}* Spirit Battles are now allowed in sanctuaries, but not sanctuaries that are in town.
* Spirit Battles are now allowed in town.
* Fixed an issue that was causing artificially long levels. Like, really long. All experience gained will still count toward your leveling progress.
* Updated the LOOK on talismans to include customization information about Spirit Beasts.
* To make the Guard and Strike duality more useful, Guard and Strike commands are no longer visible to one's opponents. In addition, guarding will now restore a small percentage of your beast's health per attacking turn. The bonus for defending and penalty to attacking while guarding have both been increased slightly. As a note, Guard and Strike only affect standard attacks.
* Added a check to POURing vials and potions that requires that the recipient item be held in your other hand.

'''Auchand'''

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| topic = Ebon Gate Festival
| messagenum = 7602
| author = GS4-AUCHAND
| date = 10/25/2014 2:10 AM EDT
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}}Catscratch Fever Update!
* The new "Catscratch Fever" special ability is applied to all common and uncommon cats.
* Added alleycats around Solhaven, snowcats around Icemule, bobcats in Ta'Vaalor.
* Added two uncommon cats--a warcat and a tomcat.
* Added one legendary cat, a very special warcat.
* Added seven new uncommon beasts.
* Adjusted the look of talismans, especially when customized.
* Made it easier to find common beasts using INVOKE. Uncommon and legendaries still have a significant chance not to show and may require a multiple checks in the same room or area.
* A few beasts have gained/lost/changed elemental alignment to be more in-line with original guidelines (i.e. most (but not all) flying creatures are attuned to air.)

'''Auchand'''

==Teaser==
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| topic = Ebon Gate Festival
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| author = GS4-AUCHAND
| date = 10/09/2014 10:11 PM EDT
| subject = Ebon Gate Teaser: Spirit Beasts
}}>invoke talisman 
You focus your thoughts on a small glass talisman, attempting to align yourself with the spirits floes within the area, and a wash of foreign sensation floods your mind. 
You detect the presence of a common rat spirit. 
Roundtime: 15 sec.

>attune talisman 
You tighten your grip on a small glass talisman, willing it to attune to the presence of the rat spirit lingering in the area. 
Roundtime: 2 sec.

>offer talisman 
You hold out your clay talisman and reach out with your mind, calling to the rat spirit lingering in the area. Sudden warmth draws your attention to your hands, where beads of blood begin welling from the surface of your talisman. The blood rises in a cloud of sanguine mist that illuminates a shrouded form hanging in the air before you. The spirit drifts closer to a simple clay talisman, its outline glowing as it nears. Golden light spills from the surface of the talisman, consuming the spirit. A thrill of satisfaction echoes up your arm and through your body. 
Roundtime: 17 sec.

Why, it's almost like I should try and challenge someone else with one of these spirits!

>point talisman at paidreg 
You challenge Paidreg to a Spirit Battle, offering your 1st train rat up against his 1st train roa'ter! (Paidreg has 45 seconds to respond by POINTing his clay talisman back at you.)

Paidreg accepts your challenge to a Spirit Battle!

You raise your clay talisman skyward and call out to the spirit dwelling within. The ephemeral spirit of a twitchy giant rat erupts forth in a blaze of energy and begins advancing on Paidreg, who counters a moment later by thrusting his clay talisman toward you. The spectral form of a plump red roa'ter crackles into existence, rising to defend him! 
The battle will begin in 10 seconds.

The spirits begin to clash with one another!

Your giant rat snaps at Paidreg's red roa'ter! 
A weak strike! 
...13 damage! 
A twitchy giant rat gathers a bit of energy from fighting.

What do you folks think? Want to know more?