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WINTERDAWN: Added Notes for Maneuver Penalty Skill Training Change

2020-07-29T18:45:45Z

Added Notes for Maneuver Penalty Skill Training Change

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	The two tables on this page show different requirements for the action/maneuver penalty. The quoted explanation from GM Coase implies that the maneuver penalty is fully trained off at the same time as the RT adder (augmented breastplate only needs 90 ranks to reach -25 AP), instead of requiring 100 ranks. Which is the correct value? [[User:ZHOUY1\|ZHOUY1]] ([[User talk:ZHOUY1\|talk]]) 17:47, 25 January 2017 (CST)		The two tables on this page show different requirements for the action/maneuver penalty. The quoted explanation from GM Coase implies that the maneuver penalty is fully trained off at the same time as the RT adder (augmented breastplate only needs 90 ranks to reach -25 AP), instead of requiring 100 ranks. Which is the correct value? [[User:ZHOUY1\|ZHOUY1]] ([[User talk:ZHOUY1\|talk]]) 17:47, 25 January 2017 (CST)

			: Good news! This has been resolved! See the section below... [[User:WINTERDAWN\|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN\|talk]]) 13:45, 29 July 2020 (CDT)

			== Maneuver Penalty Skill Training is ((Roundtime Penalty * 20) - 10) ==

			Please visit the [[Talk:Armor\|Armor discussion page]] to see the reasoning behind this change. [[User:WINTERDAWN\|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN\|talk]]) 13:45, 29 July 2020 (CDT)

2017-01-25T23:47:44Z

AP tables not consistent: new section

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	Tier 4 of the overtraining benefits can be attained with enhancives. Tier 5, however cannot. [[User:CLTIDBALL\|CLTIDBALL]] ([[User talk:CLTIDBALL\|talk]]) 15:03, 6 November 2015 (CST)		Tier 4 of the overtraining benefits can be attained with enhancives. Tier 5, however cannot. [[User:CLTIDBALL\|CLTIDBALL]] ([[User talk:CLTIDBALL\|talk]]) 15:03, 6 November 2015 (CST)

			== AP tables not consistent ==

			The two tables on this page show different requirements for the action/maneuver penalty. The quoted explanation from GM Coase implies that the maneuver penalty is fully trained off at the same time as the RT adder (augmented breastplate only needs 90 ranks to reach -25 AP), instead of requiring 100 ranks. Which is the correct value? [[User:ZHOUY1\|ZHOUY1]] ([[User talk:ZHOUY1\|talk]]) 17:47, 25 January 2017 (CST)

2016-08-05T01:29:22Z

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	CLTIDBALL is only partly right below. There's a +50 skill enhancive cap, so you still can't reach 380 ranks. --[[User:CARSYN\|CARSYN]]		CLTIDBALL is only partly right below. There's a +50 skill enhancive cap, so you still can't reach 380 ranks. Thus Tier 5 can be removed. --[[User:CARSYN\|CARSYN]]

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2016-08-05T01:28:15Z

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	CLTIDBALL is only partly right below. There's a +50 enhancive cap, so you still can't reach 380 ranks. --[[User:CARSYN\|CARSYN]]		CLTIDBALL is only partly right below. There's a +50 skill enhancive cap, so you still can't reach 380 ranks. --[[User:CARSYN\|CARSYN]]

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2016-08-05T01:27:57Z

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			CLTIDBALL is only partly right below. There's a +50 enhancive cap, so you still can't reach 380 ranks. --[[User:CARSYN\|CARSYN]]

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	I think this article incorrectly refers to "RANKS = hindrance * 20" (in various forms) where it should read "SKILL = hindrance * 20" (in various forms). I've played Gemstone for for 8 of the last 11 years but I've only played for 30 days in the last 3 years, so I'm not confident that this suggestion is 100% accurate.		I think this article incorrectly refers to "RANKS = hindrance * 20" (in various forms) where it should read "SKILL = hindrance * 20" (in various forms). I've played Gemstone for for 8 of the last 11 years but I've only played for 30 days in the last 3 years, so I'm not confident that this suggestion is 100% accurate.

2015-11-06T21:03:10Z

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	Tiers 4 and 5 in the overtraining benefits can be removed. It's impossible to get that many ranks of armor use.		Tiers 4 and 5 in the overtraining benefits can be removed. It's impossible to get that many ranks of armor use.

			Tier 4 of the overtraining benefits can be attained with enhancives. Tier 5, however cannot. [[User:CLTIDBALL\|CLTIDBALL]] ([[User talk:CLTIDBALL\|talk]]) 15:03, 6 November 2015 (CST)

2015-11-06T03:27:47Z

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	Nevermind, I found out the answer to my question by looking at the armor page on play.net --[[User:SDANIEL\|SDANIEL]] 14:10, 21 February 2010 (EST)		Nevermind, I found out the answer to my question by looking at the armor page on play.net --[[User:SDANIEL\|SDANIEL]] 14:10, 21 February 2010 (EST)

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			Tiers 4 and 5 in the overtraining benefits can be removed. It's impossible to get that many ranks of armor use.

2015-01-01T01:32:20Z

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2010-02-21T19:10:10Z

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	Why are there ranks of armor training under the spell hinderances if they can never actually be trained off?		Why are there ranks of armor training under the spell hinderances if they can never actually be trained off?
	--[[User:SDANIEL\|SDANIEL]] 12:53, 21 February 2010 (EST)		--[[User:SDANIEL\|SDANIEL]] 12:53, 21 February 2010 (EST)

			Nevermind, I found out the answer to my question by looking at the armor page on play.net --[[User:SDANIEL\|SDANIEL]] 14:10, 21 February 2010 (EST)

2010-02-21T17:53:58Z

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	You are 100% correct. Fixed that and added some clarity about action penalty. Some poor phrasing in there. - DaCapn		You are 100% correct. Fixed that and added some clarity about action penalty. Some poor phrasing in there. - DaCapn

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			Why are there ranks of armor training under the spell hinderances if they can never actually be trained off?
			--[[User:SDANIEL\|SDANIEL]] 12:53, 21 February 2010 (EST)