https://gswiki.play.net/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Talk%3ADark_Elven_Horror_Stories 2026-05-08T19:25:01Z Revision history for this page on the wiki MediaWiki 1.39.12 https://gswiki.play.net/index.php?title=Talk:Dark_Elven_Horror_Stories&diff=65536&oldid=prev 2015-06-29T15:55:47Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 10:55, 29 June 2015</td> </tr><tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 13:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 13:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::I didn't think it would be necessary to mention the replacement version in the Wiki discussion before now, but then, I didn't expect Scribes' response to be what it was either. Clearly I miscalculated when I expected a reasonable response to a simple request, because outside of GS I'm used to dealing with professional artists and writers who respect IP. Also, I did not expect a response from Feedback within 2 days. I expect any response to take up to 5 business days, as was mentioned in the automated response. [[User:KALLINI|KALLINI]] ([[User talk:KALLINI|talk]]) 22:30, 21 June 2015 (CDT)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::I didn't think it would be necessary to mention the replacement version in the Wiki discussion before now, but then, I didn't expect Scribes' response to be what it was either. Clearly I miscalculated when I expected a reasonable response to a simple request, because outside of GS I'm used to dealing with professional artists and writers who respect IP. Also, I did not expect a response from Feedback within 2 days. I expect any response to take up to 5 business days, as was mentioned in the automated response. [[User:KALLINI|KALLINI]] ([[User talk:KALLINI|talk]]) 22:30, 21 June 2015 (CDT)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>_________</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Given that:</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>-Scribes has been gagged by his superiors for trying to play IP attorney</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>-I have consulted my (actual) IP attorney, whose opinion is that GemStone/Simu has effectively zero standing to claim ownership of the shared elements between the Chains story and my non-GemStone work</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I consider the matter settled satisfactorily, and won't have to initiate a takedown request. Though I grant no other ownership rights, I grant permission for GemStone to continue to display this story on its wiki and its forum, for the benefit of players. [[User:KALLINI|KALLINI]] ([[User talk:KALLINI|talk]]) 10:55, 29 June 2015 (CDT)</div></td> </tr> </table>

KALLINI https://gswiki.play.net/index.php?title=Talk:Dark_Elven_Horror_Stories&diff=64977&oldid=prev 2015-06-22T04:15:26Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 23:15, 21 June 2015</td> </tr><tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 12:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 12:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::You never mentioned a replacement story on the Wiki until now. Obviously I have no idea what you wrote to feedback, but neither does Scribes, unless Simu's reaction/response time suddenly got a whole lot faster. I don't know what you expect to be done within 2 days. [[User:VANKRASN39|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39|talk]]) 22:03, 21 June 2015 (CDT)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::You never mentioned a replacement story on the Wiki until now. Obviously I have no idea what you wrote to feedback, but neither does Scribes, unless Simu's reaction/response time suddenly got a whole lot faster. I don't know what you expect to be done within 2 days. [[User:VANKRASN39|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39|talk]]) 22:03, 21 June 2015 (CDT)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::I didn't think it would be necessary to mention the replacement version in the Wiki discussion before now, but then, I didn't expect Scribes' response to be what it was either. Clearly I miscalculated when I expected a reasonable response to a simple request. Also, I did not expect a response from Feedback within 2 days. I expect any response to take up to 5 business days, as was mentioned in the automated response. [[User:KALLINI|KALLINI]] ([[User talk:KALLINI|talk]]) 22:30, 21 June 2015 (CDT)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::I didn't think it would be necessary to mention the replacement version in the Wiki discussion before now, but then, I didn't expect Scribes' response to be what it was either. Clearly I miscalculated when I expected a reasonable response to a simple request<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, because outside of GS I'm used to dealing with professional artists and writers who respect IP</ins>. Also, I did not expect a response from Feedback within 2 days. I expect any response to take up to 5 business days, as was mentioned in the automated response. [[User:KALLINI|KALLINI]] ([[User talk:KALLINI|talk]]) 22:30, 21 June 2015 (CDT)</div></td> </tr> </table>

KALLINI https://gswiki.play.net/index.php?title=Talk:Dark_Elven_Horror_Stories&diff=64976&oldid=prev 2015-06-22T04:12:41Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 23:12, 21 June 2015</td> </tr><tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 12:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 12:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::You never mentioned a replacement story on the Wiki until now. Obviously I have no idea what you wrote to feedback, but neither does Scribes, unless Simu's reaction/response time suddenly got a whole lot faster. I don't know what you expect to be done within 2 days. [[User:VANKRASN39|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39|talk]]) 22:03, 21 June 2015 (CDT)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::You never mentioned a replacement story on the Wiki until now. Obviously I have no idea what you wrote to feedback, but neither does Scribes, unless Simu's reaction/response time suddenly got a whole lot faster. I don't know what you expect to be done within 2 days. [[User:VANKRASN39|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39|talk]]) 22:03, 21 June 2015 (CDT)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::I didn't think it would be necessary to mention the replacement version in the Wiki discussion before now, but then, I didn't expect Scribes' response to be what it was either. Clearly I miscalculated. Also, I did not expect a response from Feedback within 2 days. I expect any response to take up to 5 business days, as was mentioned in the automated response. [[User:KALLINI|KALLINI]] ([[User talk:KALLINI|talk]]) 22:30, 21 June 2015 (CDT)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::I didn't think it would be necessary to mention the replacement version in the Wiki discussion before now, but then, I didn't expect Scribes' response to be what it was either. Clearly I miscalculated<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"> when I expected a reasonable response to a simple request</ins>. Also, I did not expect a response from Feedback within 2 days. I expect any response to take up to 5 business days, as was mentioned in the automated response. [[User:KALLINI|KALLINI]] ([[User talk:KALLINI|talk]]) 22:30, 21 June 2015 (CDT)</div></td> </tr> </table>

KALLINI https://gswiki.play.net/index.php?title=Talk:Dark_Elven_Horror_Stories&diff=64975&oldid=prev 2015-06-22T03:30:09Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 22:30, 21 June 2015</td> </tr><tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 11:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 11:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::You never mentioned a replacement story on the Wiki until now. Obviously I have no idea what you wrote to feedback, but neither does Scribes, unless Simu's reaction/response time suddenly got a whole lot faster. I don't know what you expect to be done within 2 days. [[User:VANKRASN39|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39|talk]]) 22:03, 21 June 2015 (CDT)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::You never mentioned a replacement story on the Wiki until now. Obviously I have no idea what you wrote to feedback, but neither does Scribes, unless Simu's reaction/response time suddenly got a whole lot faster. I don't know what you expect to be done within 2 days. [[User:VANKRASN39|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39|talk]]) 22:03, 21 June 2015 (CDT)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::I didn't think it would be necessary to mention the replacement version in the Wiki discussion before now, but then, I didn't expect Scribes' response to be what it was either. Clearly I miscalculated. Also, I did not expect a response from Feedback within 2 days. I expect any response to take up to 5 business days, as was mentioned in the automated response. [[User:KALLINI|KALLINI]] ([[User talk:KALLINI|talk]]) 22:30, 21 June 2015 (CDT)</div></td> </tr> </table>

KALLINI https://gswiki.play.net/index.php?title=Talk:Dark_Elven_Horror_Stories&diff=64974&oldid=prev 2015-06-22T03:03:35Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 22:03, 21 June 2015</td> </tr><tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 9:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 9:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:And once again, for the record, I never intended to escalate this. Had Scribes simply acceded to the initial simple request, I could have already submitted the replacement story to edit back in, and the issue would be over. I don't particularly appreciate being forced into a fight over ownership rights over something as ridiculous as a GemStone story.[[User:KALLINI|KALLINI]] ([[User talk:KALLINI|talk]]) 21:38, 21 June 2015 (CDT)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:And once again, for the record, I never intended to escalate this. Had Scribes simply acceded to the initial simple request, I could have already submitted the replacement story to edit back in, and the issue would be over. I don't particularly appreciate being forced into a fight over ownership rights over something as ridiculous as a GemStone story.[[User:KALLINI|KALLINI]] ([[User talk:KALLINI|talk]]) 21:38, 21 June 2015 (CDT)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::You never mentioned a replacement story on the Wiki until now. Obviously I have no idea what you wrote to feedback, but neither does Scribes, unless Simu's reaction/response time suddenly got a whole lot faster. I don't know what you expect to be done within 2 days. [[User:VANKRASN39|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39|talk]]) 22:03, 21 June 2015 (CDT)</div></td> </tr> </table>

VANKRASN39 https://gswiki.play.net/index.php?title=Talk:Dark_Elven_Horror_Stories&diff=64973&oldid=prev 2015-06-22T02:43:48Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 21:43, 21 June 2015</td> </tr><tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 6:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 6:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:[http://www.play.net/gs4/simu_policy.asp #11] sounds about right to me in terms of Simu's use of "intellectural property" that players have submitted for contests. [[User:VANKRASN39|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39|talk]]) 20:46, 21 June 2015 (CDT)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:[http://www.play.net/gs4/simu_policy.asp #11] sounds about right to me in terms of Simu's use of "intellectural property" that players have submitted for contests. [[User:VANKRASN39|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39|talk]]) 20:46, 21 June 2015 (CDT)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:: "Public Area" is not defined anywhere in that agreement. The story in question was only recited in-game at a paid festival - not an area of general access to the player population - and not "submitted" to the forums or to the Wiki except by a GM. I would have been perfectly glad to replace the story here in the wiki with a version that subtracts and replaces the elements I've used in my own non-GS-related copyrighted work, but Scribes, who presents himself here as Simutronics' legal representative regarding intellectual property, has taken the stance that Gemstone has been granted permanent copyright of every element of my work, so therefore there is no longer any room for discussion. He could have simply edited the page, until such time as I provided him a slightly modified replacement story, but he chose otherwise. Now that I have contacted Feedback about the situation, we will see how the issue proceeds from here. With luck, they will realize that using the "edit" option a couple times is preferable to escalating this further.[[User:KALLINI|KALLINI]] ([[User talk:KALLINI|talk]]) 21:15, 21 June 2015 (CDT)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:: "Public Area" is not defined anywhere in that agreement. The story in question was only recited in-game at a paid festival - not an area of general access to the player population - and not "submitted" to the forums or to the Wiki except by a GM. I would have been perfectly glad to replace the story here in the wiki with a version that subtracts and replaces the elements I've used in my own non-GS-related copyrighted work, but Scribes, who presents himself here as Simutronics' legal representative regarding intellectual property, has taken the stance that Gemstone has been granted permanent copyright of every element of my work, so therefore there is no longer any room for discussion. He could have simply edited the page, until such time as I provided him a slightly modified replacement<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"> story (I only care about protecting my use of certain phrases in the</ins> story<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, not the story itself)</ins>, but he chose otherwise. Now that I have contacted Feedback about the situation, we will see how the issue proceeds from here. With luck, they will realize that using the "edit" option a couple times is preferable to escalating this further.[[User:KALLINI|KALLINI]] ([[User talk:KALLINI|talk]]) 21:15, 21 June 2015 (CDT)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:And once again, for the record, I never intended to escalate this. Had Scribes simply acceded to the initial simple request, I could have already submitted the replacement story to edit back in, and the issue would be over. I don't particularly appreciate being forced into a fight over ownership rights over something as ridiculous as a GemStone story.[[User:KALLINI|KALLINI]] ([[User talk:KALLINI|talk]]) 21:38, 21 June 2015 (CDT)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:And once again, for the record, I never intended to escalate this. Had Scribes simply acceded to the initial simple request, I could have already submitted the replacement story to edit back in, and the issue would be over. I don't particularly appreciate being forced into a fight over ownership rights over something as ridiculous as a GemStone story.[[User:KALLINI|KALLINI]] ([[User talk:KALLINI|talk]]) 21:38, 21 June 2015 (CDT)</div></td> </tr> </table>

KALLINI https://gswiki.play.net/index.php?title=Talk:Dark_Elven_Horror_Stories&diff=64972&oldid=prev 2015-06-22T02:41:50Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 21:41, 21 June 2015</td> </tr><tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 6:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 6:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:[http://www.play.net/gs4/simu_policy.asp #11] sounds about right to me in terms of Simu's use of "intellectural property" that players have submitted for contests. [[User:VANKRASN39|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39|talk]]) 20:46, 21 June 2015 (CDT)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:[http://www.play.net/gs4/simu_policy.asp #11] sounds about right to me in terms of Simu's use of "intellectural property" that players have submitted for contests. [[User:VANKRASN39|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39|talk]]) 20:46, 21 June 2015 (CDT)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:: "Public Area" is not defined anywhere in that agreement. The story in question was only recited in-game at a paid festival - not an area of general access to the player population - and not "submitted" to the forums or to the Wiki except by a GM. I would have been perfectly glad to replace the story here in the wiki with a version that subtracts and replaces the elements I've used in my own non-GS-related copyrighted work, but Scribes, who presents himself here as Simutronics' legal representative regarding intellectual property, has taken the stance that Gemstone has been granted permanent copyright of every element of my work, so therefore there is no longer any room for discussion. He could have simply edited the page, until such time as I provided him a slightly modified replacement story, but he chose otherwise. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">We</del> will see how the issue proceeds from here. [[User:KALLINI|KALLINI]] ([[User talk:KALLINI|talk]]) 21:15, 21 June 2015 (CDT)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:: "Public Area" is not defined anywhere in that agreement. The story in question was only recited in-game at a paid festival - not an area of general access to the player population - and not "submitted" to the forums or to the Wiki except by a GM. I would have been perfectly glad to replace the story here in the wiki with a version that subtracts and replaces the elements I've used in my own non-GS-related copyrighted work, but Scribes, who presents himself here as Simutronics' legal representative regarding intellectual property, has taken the stance that Gemstone has been granted permanent copyright of every element of my work, so therefore there is no longer any room for discussion. He could have simply edited the page, until such time as I provided him a slightly modified replacement story, but he chose otherwise. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Now that I have contacted Feedback about the situation, we</ins> will see how the issue proceeds from here. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">With luck, they will realize that using the "edit" option a couple times is preferable to escalating this further.</ins>[[User:KALLINI|KALLINI]] ([[User talk:KALLINI|talk]]) 21:15, 21 June 2015 (CDT)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:And once again, for the record, I never intended to escalate this. Had Scribes simply acceded to the initial simple request, I could have already submitted the replacement story to edit back in, and the issue would be over. I don't particularly appreciate being forced into a fight over ownership rights over something as ridiculous as a GemStone story.[[User:KALLINI|KALLINI]] ([[User talk:KALLINI|talk]]) 21:38, 21 June 2015 (CDT)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:And once again, for the record, I never intended to escalate this. Had Scribes simply acceded to the initial simple request, I could have already submitted the replacement story to edit back in, and the issue would be over. I don't particularly appreciate being forced into a fight over ownership rights over something as ridiculous as a GemStone story.[[User:KALLINI|KALLINI]] ([[User talk:KALLINI|talk]]) 21:38, 21 June 2015 (CDT)</div></td> </tr> </table>

KALLINI https://gswiki.play.net/index.php?title=Talk:Dark_Elven_Horror_Stories&diff=64971&oldid=prev 2015-06-22T02:40:02Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 21:40, 21 June 2015</td> </tr><tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 8:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 8:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:: "Public Area" is not defined anywhere in that agreement. The story in question was only recited in-game at a paid festival - not an area of general access to the player population - and not "submitted" to the forums or to the Wiki except by a GM. I would have been perfectly glad to replace the story here in the wiki with a version that subtracts and replaces the elements I've used in my own non-GS-related copyrighted work, but Scribes, who presents himself here as Simutronics' legal representative regarding intellectual property, has taken the stance that Gemstone has been granted permanent copyright of every element of my work, so therefore there is no longer any room for discussion. He could have simply edited the page, until such time as I provided him a slightly modified replacement story, but he chose otherwise. We will see how the issue proceeds from here. [[User:KALLINI|KALLINI]] ([[User talk:KALLINI|talk]]) 21:15, 21 June 2015 (CDT)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:: "Public Area" is not defined anywhere in that agreement. The story in question was only recited in-game at a paid festival - not an area of general access to the player population - and not "submitted" to the forums or to the Wiki except by a GM. I would have been perfectly glad to replace the story here in the wiki with a version that subtracts and replaces the elements I've used in my own non-GS-related copyrighted work, but Scribes, who presents himself here as Simutronics' legal representative regarding intellectual property, has taken the stance that Gemstone has been granted permanent copyright of every element of my work, so therefore there is no longer any room for discussion. He could have simply edited the page, until such time as I provided him a slightly modified replacement story, but he chose otherwise. We will see how the issue proceeds from here. [[User:KALLINI|KALLINI]] ([[User talk:KALLINI|talk]]) 21:15, 21 June 2015 (CDT)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:And once again, for the record, I never intended to escalate this. Had Scribes simply acceded to the initial simple request, I could have already submitted the replacement story to edit back in, and the issue would be over. [[User:KALLINI|KALLINI]] ([[User talk:KALLINI|talk]]) 21:38, 21 June 2015 (CDT)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:And once again, for the record, I never intended to escalate this. Had Scribes simply acceded to the initial simple request, I could have already submitted the replacement story to edit back in, and the issue would be over. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">I don't particularly appreciate being forced into a fight over ownership rights over something as ridiculous as a GemStone story.</ins>[[User:KALLINI|KALLINI]] ([[User talk:KALLINI|talk]]) 21:38, 21 June 2015 (CDT)</div></td> </tr> </table>

KALLINI https://gswiki.play.net/index.php?title=Talk:Dark_Elven_Horror_Stories&diff=64970&oldid=prev 2015-06-22T02:38:21Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 21:38, 21 June 2015</td> </tr><tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 7:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 7:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:[http://www.play.net/gs4/simu_policy.asp #11] sounds about right to me in terms of Simu's use of "intellectural property" that players have submitted for contests. [[User:VANKRASN39|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39|talk]]) 20:46, 21 June 2015 (CDT)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:[http://www.play.net/gs4/simu_policy.asp #11] sounds about right to me in terms of Simu's use of "intellectural property" that players have submitted for contests. [[User:VANKRASN39|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39|talk]]) 20:46, 21 June 2015 (CDT)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:: "Public Area" is not defined anywhere in that agreement. The story in question was only recited in-game at a paid festival - not an area of general access to the player population - and not "submitted" to the forums or to the Wiki except by a GM. I would have been perfectly glad to replace the story here in the wiki with a version that subtracts and replaces the elements I've used in my own non-GS-related copyrighted work, but Scribes, who presents himself here as Simutronics' legal representative regarding intellectual property, has taken the stance that Gemstone has been granted permanent copyright of every element of my work, so therefore there is no longer any room for discussion. He could have simply edited the page, until such time as I provided him a slightly modified replacement story, but he chose otherwise. We will see how the issue proceeds from here. [[User:KALLINI|KALLINI]] ([[User talk:KALLINI|talk]]) 21:15, 21 June 2015 (CDT)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:: "Public Area" is not defined anywhere in that agreement. The story in question was only recited in-game at a paid festival - not an area of general access to the player population - and not "submitted" to the forums or to the Wiki except by a GM. I would have been perfectly glad to replace the story here in the wiki with a version that subtracts and replaces the elements I've used in my own non-GS-related copyrighted work, but Scribes, who presents himself here as Simutronics' legal representative regarding intellectual property, has taken the stance that Gemstone has been granted permanent copyright of every element of my work, so therefore there is no longer any room for discussion. He could have simply edited the page, until such time as I provided him a slightly modified replacement story, but he chose otherwise. We will see how the issue proceeds from here. [[User:KALLINI|KALLINI]] ([[User talk:KALLINI|talk]]) 21:15, 21 June 2015 (CDT)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:And once again, for the record, I never intended to escalate this. Had Scribes simply acceded to the initial simple request, I could have already submitted the replacement story to edit back in, and the issue would be over. [[User:KALLINI|KALLINI]] ([[User talk:KALLINI|talk]]) 21:38, 21 June 2015 (CDT)</div></td> </tr> </table>

KALLINI https://gswiki.play.net/index.php?title=Talk:Dark_Elven_Horror_Stories&diff=64969&oldid=prev 2015-06-22T02:27:25Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 21:27, 21 June 2015</td> </tr><tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 6:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 6:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:[http://www.play.net/gs4/simu_policy.asp #11] sounds about right to me in terms of Simu's use of "intellectural property" that players have submitted for contests. [[User:VANKRASN39|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39|talk]]) 20:46, 21 June 2015 (CDT)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:[http://www.play.net/gs4/simu_policy.asp #11] sounds about right to me in terms of Simu's use of "intellectural property" that players have submitted for contests. [[User:VANKRASN39|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39|talk]]) 20:46, 21 June 2015 (CDT)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:: "Public Area" is not defined anywhere in that agreement. The story in question was only recited in-game at a paid festival - not an area of general access to the player population - and not "submitted" to the forums or to the Wiki except by a GM. I would have been perfectly glad to replace the story here in the wiki with a version that subtracts and replaces the elements I've used in my own non-GS-related copyrighted work, but Scribes, who presents himself here as Simutronics' legal representative regarding intellectual property, has taken the stance that Gemstone has been granted permanent copyright of every element of my work, so therefore there is no longer any room for discussion. We will see how the issue proceeds from here. [[User:KALLINI|KALLINI]] ([[User talk:KALLINI|talk]]) 21:15, 21 June 2015 (CDT)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:: "Public Area" is not defined anywhere in that agreement. The story in question was only recited in-game at a paid festival - not an area of general access to the player population - and not "submitted" to the forums or to the Wiki except by a GM. I would have been perfectly glad to replace the story here in the wiki with a version that subtracts and replaces the elements I've used in my own non-GS-related copyrighted work, but Scribes, who presents himself here as Simutronics' legal representative regarding intellectual property, has taken the stance that Gemstone has been granted permanent copyright of every element of my work, so therefore there is no longer any room for discussion<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">. He could have simply edited the page, until such time as I provided him a slightly modified replacement story, but he chose otherwise</ins>. We will see how the issue proceeds from here. [[User:KALLINI|KALLINI]] ([[User talk:KALLINI|talk]]) 21:15, 21 June 2015 (CDT)</div></td> </tr> </table>

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