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		<title>VANKRASN39 at 15:03, 8 October 2015</title>
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		<updated>2015-10-08T15:03:49Z</updated>

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		<author><name>VANKRASN39</name></author>
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		<title>VANKRASN39: re: MMC removal</title>
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		<updated>2015-10-08T04:01:42Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;re: MMC removal&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>Maintenance script: Created page with &#039;Parsing a few logs of other players using Empathic Assault, it appears that the damage done in the CS cycles is roughly predicted by:  (15 + 0.5*(endroll - 100))  for the players…&#039;</title>
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		<updated>2012-09-01T18:13:39Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;#039;Parsing a few logs of other players using Empathic Assault, it appears that the damage done in the CS cycles is roughly predicted by:  (15 + 0.5*(endroll - 100))  for the players…&amp;#039;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Parsing a few logs of other players using Empathic Assault, it appears that the damage done in the CS cycles is roughly predicted by:&lt;br /&gt;
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(15 + 0.5*(endroll - 100))&lt;br /&gt;
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for the players I tested. The error bands get slightly higher for endrolls 200+, but I doubt many people will encounter that scenario in actual gameplay.&lt;br /&gt;
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For 39 samples across 6 different players, the average error is -2.1, so this seems to be an accurate predictor.&lt;br /&gt;
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The 6 players tested had extremely variable lore and Mental Mana Control training. There is no evidence that any of the following affect damage: Manipulation, Telepathy, Transformation, Mental Mana Control.&lt;br /&gt;
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There may be a small variable component to damage (probably 1d5 at most). The same player on the same cycle number (#1) against the same target dealt 29 damage on a 128 enroll and 27 damage on a 129 endroll.&lt;br /&gt;
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There is a small amount of evidence that later cycles do very slightly less damage (e.g. -1 dmg on the second cycle, -2 dmg on the third cycle), but this may be coincidence of variable damage and a small sample size.&lt;br /&gt;
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