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		<title>WINTERDAWN at 03:25, 27 July 2020</title>
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		<updated>2020-07-27T03:25:05Z</updated>

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  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I reverted WINTERDAWN&#039;s statement on the wiki page. The statement was as follows: &quot;[DISCLAIMER: The information on this table is not entirely correct. To see an example of it being incorrect look at the robe CvA for 80 ranks of armor. Is it 3 or -1? (it&#039;s -1 in game)]&quot;. [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] - Please follow up on that question here on the discussion page, on the official forums, or in the official Discord. Thank you! [[User:MOD-GSMOTTE|MOD-GSMOTTE]] ([[User talk:MOD-GSMOTTE|talk]]) 20:15, 26 July 2020 (CDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I reverted WINTERDAWN&#039;s statement on the wiki page. The statement was as follows: &quot;[DISCLAIMER: The information on this table is not entirely correct. To see an example of it being incorrect look at the robe CvA for 80 ranks of armor. Is it 3 or -1? (it&#039;s -1 in game)]&quot;. [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] - Please follow up on that question here on the discussion page, on the official forums, or in the official Discord. Thank you! [[User:MOD-GSMOTTE|MOD-GSMOTTE]] ([[User talk:MOD-GSMOTTE|talk]]) 20:15, 26 July 2020 (CDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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		<author><name>WINTERDAWN</name></author>
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		<title>MOD-GSMOTTE: Explanation for revert.</title>
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		<updated>2020-07-27T01:15:14Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Explanation for revert.&lt;/p&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Could someone please translate that chart? Why is it worse to be trained in brig and wearing chain mail than to be trained in brig and wearing a chain hauberk? I don&#039;t understand any of this. [[User:GEHAYI|GEHAYI]] ([[User talk:GEHAYI|talk]]) 16:05, 19 February 2020 (CST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Could someone please translate that chart? Why is it worse to be trained in brig and wearing chain mail than to be trained in brig and wearing a chain hauberk? I don&#039;t understand any of this. [[User:GEHAYI|GEHAYI]] ([[User talk:GEHAYI|talk]]) 16:05, 19 February 2020 (CST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:How I read it is that, taking Double Leather as an example... if you&#039;re wearing Double Leather, and are trained for Double Leather (8 ranks of AU), you&#039;ll have the normal CvA of 12.  However, if you happen to up your AU training to that of something like Brigandine (30 ranks) and still wear your Double Leather, with Light Armor Mastery, you&#039;ll now have an effective CvA of 9.  With even more AU training, say the 80 ranks needed for MPB, while still wearing your Double Leather, you&#039;d have an effective CvA of 3.  Pretty much, the more Armor Use training you have, with AsG&#039;s less than what you&#039;re trained for, you get better CvA&#039;s.  If this doesn&#039;t help, let me know, please! [[User:CLTIDBALL|CLTIDBALL]] ([[User talk:CLTIDBALL|talk]]) 18:34, 19 February 2020 (CST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I reverted WINTERDAWN&#039;s statement on the wiki page. The statement was as follows: &quot;[DISCLAIMER: The information on this table is not entirely correct. To see an example of it being incorrect look at the robe CvA for 80 ranks of armor. Is it 3 or -1? (it&#039;s -1 in game)]&quot;. [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] - Please follow up on that question here on the discussion page, on the official forums, or in the official Discord. Thank you! [[User:MOD-GSMOTTE|MOD-GSMOTTE]] ([[User talk:MOD-GSMOTTE|talk]]) 20:15, 26 July 2020 (CDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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		<title>CLTIDBALL: Response, re: chart translation.</title>
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		<updated>2020-02-20T00:34:38Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Response, re: chart translation.&lt;/p&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Could someone please translate that chart? Why is it worse to be trained in brig and wearing chain mail than to be trained in brig and wearing a chain hauberk? I don&#039;t understand any of this. [[User:GEHAYI|GEHAYI]] ([[User talk:GEHAYI|talk]]) 16:05, 19 February 2020 (CST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Could someone please translate that chart? Why is it worse to be trained in brig and wearing chain mail than to be trained in brig and wearing a chain hauberk? I don&#039;t understand any of this. [[User:GEHAYI|GEHAYI]] ([[User talk:GEHAYI|talk]]) 16:05, 19 February 2020 (CST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:How I read it is that, taking Double Leather as an example... if you&#039;re wearing Double Leather, and are trained for Double Leather (8 ranks of AU), you&#039;ll have the normal CvA of 12.  However, if you happen to up your AU training to that of something like Brigandine (30 ranks) and still wear your Double Leather, with Light Armor Mastery, you&#039;ll now have an effective CvA of 9.  With even more AU training, say the 80 ranks needed for MPB, while still wearing your Double Leather, you&#039;d have an effective CvA of 3.  Pretty much, the more Armor Use training you have, with AsG&#039;s less than what you&#039;re trained for, you get better CvA&#039;s.  If this doesn&#039;t help, let me know, please! [[User:CLTIDBALL|CLTIDBALL]] ([[User talk:CLTIDBALL|talk]]) 18:34, 19 February 2020 (CST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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		<title>GEHAYI: Created page with &quot;Could someone please translate that chart? Why is it worse to be trained in brig and wearing chain mail than to be trained in brig and wearing a chain hauberk? I don&#039;t underst...&quot;</title>
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		<updated>2020-02-19T22:05:07Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;Could someone please translate that chart? Why is it worse to be trained in brig and wearing chain mail than to be trained in brig and wearing a chain hauberk? I don&amp;#039;t underst...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Could someone please translate that chart? Why is it worse to be trained in brig and wearing chain mail than to be trained in brig and wearing a chain hauberk? I don&amp;#039;t understand any of this. [[User:GEHAYI|GEHAYI]] ([[User talk:GEHAYI|talk]]) 16:05, 19 February 2020 (CST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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