Talk:Spell hindrance - Revision history

ZHOUY1: found the post

2017-01-24T22:18:29Z

found the post

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	Armor Use bonus required to reach Base Hindrance is (Base Hindrance 20 - 10)		Armor Use bonus required to reach Base Hindrance is (Base Hindrance 20 - 10)
	If Armor Use is less than the requirement, the penalty is ---? Is it +1% hindrance per 20 bonus? (That would imply hindrance at 0 ranks = 2 Base.) [[User:ZHOUY1\|ZHOUY1]] ([[User talk:ZHOUY1\|talk]]) 18:39, 23 January 2017 (CST)		If Armor Use is less than the requirement, the penalty is ---? Is it +1% hindrance per 20 bonus? (That would imply hindrance at 0 ranks = 2 Base.) [[User:ZHOUY1\|ZHOUY1]] ([[User talk:ZHOUY1\|talk]]) 18:39, 23 January 2017 (CST)
			:Answering the question: http://forum.gsplayers.com/archive/index.php/t-45576.html [[User:ZHOUY1\|ZHOUY1]] ([[User talk:ZHOUY1\|talk]]) 16:18, 24 January 2017 (CST)

ZHOUY1: Undertraining penalty

2017-01-24T00:39:49Z

Undertraining penalty

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	:I'll make sure this gets to Kaikala. [[User:VANKRASN39\|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39\|talk]]) 15:31, 21 November 2016 (CST)		:I'll make sure this gets to Kaikala. [[User:VANKRASN39\|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39\|talk]]) 15:31, 21 November 2016 (CST)
	:Are they sure they were getting 2% failure with Empath Base, or was it with 1700 (which is essentially a sorcerer spell)? I've never seen empath hindrance on any other native spell in any form of soft leather armor. [[User:PFLATS\|PFLATS]] ([[User talk:PFLATS\|talk]]) 17:12, 22 November 2016 (CST)		:Are they sure they were getting 2% failure with Empath Base, or was it with 1700 (which is essentially a sorcerer spell)? I've never seen empath hindrance on any other native spell in any form of soft leather armor. [[User:PFLATS\|PFLATS]] ([[User talk:PFLATS\|talk]]) 17:12, 22 November 2016 (CST)

			The article is not quite clear on what the undertraining penalty for spell hindrance is.
			*Base Hindrance is the value listed on the table
			Armor Use bonus required to reach Base Hindrance is (Base Hindrance 20 - 10)
			If Armor Use is less than the requirement, the penalty is ---? Is it +1% hindrance per 20 bonus? (That would imply hindrance at 0 ranks = 2 Base.) [[User:ZHOUY1\|ZHOUY1]] ([[User talk:ZHOUY1\|talk]]) 18:39, 23 January 2017 (CST)

PFLATS at 23:12, 22 November 2016

2016-11-22T23:12:05Z

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	There was some discussion elsewhere on whether the hindrance table is accurate for Empath Base spells because some characters were experiencing 2% spell failure with double leather and 8 Armor Use ranks (the table has 0%). The documentation is inconsistent: http://www.play.net/gs4/info/armory/armor.asp has the same table as this page, but http://www.play.net/gs4/info/armory/armorleather.asp has 4% failure. It was also cited that the <code>;armor popup</code> script shows 2%. My own experience matches this page (and I think the script is also wrong on several other ASGs where the numbers differ) but there were several other players reporting 2% so there might be something to it. [[User:ZHOUY1\|ZHOUY1]] ([[User talk:ZHOUY1\|talk]]) 14:46, 21 November 2016 (CST)		There was some discussion elsewhere on whether the hindrance table is accurate for Empath Base spells because some characters were experiencing 2% spell failure with double leather and 8 Armor Use ranks (the table has 0%). The documentation is inconsistent: http://www.play.net/gs4/info/armory/armor.asp has the same table as this page, but http://www.play.net/gs4/info/armory/armorleather.asp has 4% failure. It was also cited that the <code>;armor popup</code> script shows 2%. My own experience matches this page (and I think the script is also wrong on several other ASGs where the numbers differ) but there were several other players reporting 2% so there might be something to it. [[User:ZHOUY1\|ZHOUY1]] ([[User talk:ZHOUY1\|talk]]) 14:46, 21 November 2016 (CST)
	:I'll make sure this gets to Kaikala. [[User:VANKRASN39\|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39\|talk]]) 15:31, 21 November 2016 (CST)		:I'll make sure this gets to Kaikala. [[User:VANKRASN39\|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39\|talk]]) 15:31, 21 November 2016 (CST)
			:Are they sure they were getting 2% failure with Empath Base, or was it with 1700 (which is essentially a sorcerer spell)? I've never seen empath hindrance on any other native spell in any form of soft leather armor. [[User:PFLATS\|PFLATS]] ([[User talk:PFLATS\|talk]]) 17:12, 22 November 2016 (CST)

VANKRASN39: Flag for Kaikala

2016-11-21T21:31:09Z

Flag for Kaikala

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	There was some discussion elsewhere on whether the hindrance table is accurate for Empath Base spells because some characters were experiencing 2% spell failure with double leather and 8 Armor Use ranks (the table has 0%). The documentation is inconsistent: http://www.play.net/gs4/info/armory/armor.asp has the same table as this page, but http://www.play.net/gs4/info/armory/armorleather.asp has 4% failure. It was also cited that the <code>;armor popup</code> script shows 2%. My own experience matches this page (and I think the script is also wrong on several other ASGs where the numbers differ) but there were several other players reporting 2% so there might be something to it. [[User:ZHOUY1\|ZHOUY1]] ([[User talk:ZHOUY1\|talk]]) 14:46, 21 November 2016 (CST)		There was some discussion elsewhere on whether the hindrance table is accurate for Empath Base spells because some characters were experiencing 2% spell failure with double leather and 8 Armor Use ranks (the table has 0%). The documentation is inconsistent: http://www.play.net/gs4/info/armory/armor.asp has the same table as this page, but http://www.play.net/gs4/info/armory/armorleather.asp has 4% failure. It was also cited that the <code>;armor popup</code> script shows 2%. My own experience matches this page (and I think the script is also wrong on several other ASGs where the numbers differ) but there were several other players reporting 2% so there might be something to it. [[User:ZHOUY1\|ZHOUY1]] ([[User talk:ZHOUY1\|talk]]) 14:46, 21 November 2016 (CST)
			:I'll make sure this gets to Kaikala. [[User:VANKRASN39\|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39\|talk]]) 15:31, 21 November 2016 (CST)

ZHOUY1: Empath Base hindrance?

2016-11-21T20:46:04Z

Empath Base hindrance?

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There was some discussion elsewhere on whether the hindrance table is accurate for Empath Base spells because some characters were experiencing 2% spell failure with double leather and 8 Armor Use ranks (the table has 0%). The documentation is inconsistent: http://www.play.net/gs4/info/armory/armor.asp has the same table as this page, but http://www.play.net/gs4/info/armory/armorleather.asp has 4% failure. It was also cited that the <code>;armor popup</code> script shows 2%. My own experience matches this page (and I think the script is also wrong on several other ASGs where the numbers differ) but there were several other players reporting 2% so there might be something to it. [[User:ZHOUY1|ZHOUY1]] ([[User talk:ZHOUY1|talk]]) 14:46, 21 November 2016 (CST)

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	Armor Use bonus required to reach Base Hindrance is (Base Hindrance 20 - 10)		Armor Use bonus required to reach Base Hindrance is (Base Hindrance 20 - 10)
	If Armor Use is less than the requirement, the penalty is ---? Is it +1% hindrance per 20 bonus? (That would imply hindrance at 0 ranks = 2 Base.) [[User:ZHOUY1\|ZHOUY1]] ([[User talk:ZHOUY1\|talk]]) 18:39, 23 January 2017 (CST)		If Armor Use is less than the requirement, the penalty is ---? Is it +1% hindrance per 20 bonus? (That would imply hindrance at 0 ranks = 2 Base.) [[User:ZHOUY1\|ZHOUY1]] ([[User talk:ZHOUY1\|talk]]) 18:39, 23 January 2017 (CST)
			:Answering the question: http://forum.gsplayers.com/archive/index.php/t-45576.html [[User:ZHOUY1\|ZHOUY1]] ([[User talk:ZHOUY1\|talk]]) 16:18, 24 January 2017 (CST)