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	Notes: Max critical rank is rounded down ([[trunc]]ated) to a whole number. Weighting values are ''never randomized'' as part of the max critical rank calculation: the full combat effectiveness value is always added. Padding values are randomized for values greater than 6 padding points of combat effectiveness; see [[padding]] for more details.		Notes: Max critical rank is rounded down ([[trunc]]ated) to a whole number. Weighting values are ''never randomized'' as part of the max critical rank calculation: the full combat effectiveness value is always added. Padding values are randomized for values greater than 6 padding points of combat effectiveness; see [[padding]] for more details.

			===Natural Crit Weighting===
	Characters have natural crit weighting derived from DEX bonus. GILCHRISTR's research indicates that 1 potential phantom damage is added for each 4 bonus. There are also some abilities that can temporarily bestow crit weighting, such as [[Sigil of Major Bane]]. These effects are applied additively to any weapon weighting and to each other. They apply to ranged and bolt attacks as well (which normally have no weapon-based weighting).		Characters have natural crit weighting derived from DEX bonus. GILCHRISTR's research indicates that 1 potential phantom damage is added for each 4 bonus. There are also some abilities that can temporarily bestow crit weighting, such as [[Sigil of Major Bane]]. These effects are applied additively to any weapon weighting and to each other. They apply to ranged and bolt attacks as well (which normally have no weapon-based weighting).

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	[https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/532373273816858636/692611152995418143 According to Naijin], the stat-based crit weighting for swung weapons is:		[https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/532373273816858636/692611152995418143 According to Naijin], the stat-based crit weighting for swung weapons is:

⚫	WEAPON SIZE PENALTY = SUMMATION(WEAPON SPEED + 1 - (OPEN OFF HAND?3:0)) * 2 - STRENGTH BONUS, where SUMMATION is a seed 1 summation. This penalty cannot go below 0 (i.e. cannot actually be a bonus). "Open off hand" is considered true for two-handed weapons with an open left hand.

	Stat-based crit CER bonus = (DEX BONUS - WEAPON SIZE PENALTY) / 4. (It is unclear if this can go negative, or how this is rounded, if at all).		Stat-based crit CER bonus = (DEX BONUS - WEAPON SIZE PENALTY) / 4. (It is unclear if this can go negative, or how this is rounded, if at all).

		⚫	WEAPON SIZE PENALTY = SUMMATION(WEAPON SPEED + 1 - (OPEN OFF HAND?3:0)) * 2 - STRENGTH BONUS, where SUMMATION is a seed 1 summation. This penalty cannot go below 0 (i.e. cannot actually be a bonus). "Open off hand" is considered true for two-handed weapons with an open left hand.

	For a lance, the user needs 56 STR bonus to benefit from their full DEX bonus. For a spear, it's 20 STR bonus.		For a lance, the user needs 56 STR bonus to benefit from their full DEX bonus. For a spear, it's 20 STR bonus.

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	[https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/532373273816858636/692611152995418143 According to Naijin], the stat-based crit weighting for swung weapons is:		[https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/532373273816858636/692611152995418143 According to Naijin], the stat-based crit weighting for swung weapons is:

	WEAPON SIZE PENALTY: SUMMATION(WEAPON SPEED + 1 - (OPEN OFF HAND?3:0)) * 2 - STRENGTH BONUS, where SUMMATION is a seed 1 summation. This penalty cannot go below 0 (i.e. cannot actually be a bonus). "Open off hand" is considered true for two-handed weapons with an open left hand.		WEAPON SIZE PENALTY = SUMMATION(WEAPON SPEED + 1 - (OPEN OFF HAND?3:0)) * 2 - STRENGTH BONUS, where SUMMATION is a seed 1 summation. This penalty cannot go below 0 (i.e. cannot actually be a bonus). "Open off hand" is considered true for two-handed weapons with an open left hand.

	Stat-based crit CER bonus (DEX BONUS - WEAPON SIZE PENALTY) / 4. (It is unclear if this can go negative, or how this is rounded, if at all).		Stat-based crit CER bonus = (DEX BONUS - WEAPON SIZE PENALTY) / 4. (It is unclear if this can go negative, or how this is rounded, if at all).

	For a lance, the user needs 56 STR bonus to benefit from their full DEX bonus. For a spear, it's 20 STR bonus.		For a lance, the user needs 56 STR bonus to benefit from their full DEX bonus. For a spear, it's 20 STR bonus.

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	[https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/532373273816858636/692611152995418143 According to Naijin], the stat-based crit weighting for swung weapons is:		[https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/532373273816858636/692611152995418143 According to Naijin], the stat-based crit weighting for swung weapons is:

	WEAPON SIZE PENALTY: SUMMATION(WEAPON SPEED + 1 - (OPEN OFF HAND?3:0) * 2) - STRENGTH BONUS, where SUMMATION is a seed 1 summation. This penalty cannot go below 0 (i.e. cannot actually be a bonus). "Open off hand" is considered true for two-handed weapons with an open left hand.		WEAPON SIZE PENALTY: SUMMATION(WEAPON SPEED + 1 - (OPEN OFF HAND?3:0)) * 2 - STRENGTH BONUS, where SUMMATION is a seed 1 summation. This penalty cannot go below 0 (i.e. cannot actually be a bonus). "Open off hand" is considered true for two-handed weapons with an open left hand.

	Stat-based crit CER bonus (DEX BONUS - WEAPON SIZE PENALTY) / 4. (It is unclear if this can go negative, or how this is rounded, if at all).		Stat-based crit CER bonus (DEX BONUS - WEAPON SIZE PENALTY) / 4. (It is unclear if this can go negative, or how this is rounded, if at all).

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	[https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/532373273816858636/692611152995418143 According to Naijin], the stat-based crit weighting for swung weapons is:		[https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/532373273816858636/692611152995418143 According to Naijin], the stat-based crit weighting for swung weapons is:

	WEAPON SIZE PENALTY: SUMMATION(WEAPON SPEED + 1 - (OPEN OFF HAND?3:0) * 2), where SUMMATION is a seed 1 summation. This penalty cannot go below 0 (i.e. cannot actually be a bonus). "Open off hand" is considered true for two-handed weapons with an open left hand.		WEAPON SIZE PENALTY: SUMMATION(WEAPON SPEED + 1 - (OPEN OFF HAND?3:0) * 2) - STRENGTH BONUS, where SUMMATION is a seed 1 summation. This penalty cannot go below 0 (i.e. cannot actually be a bonus). "Open off hand" is considered true for two-handed weapons with an open left hand.

	Stat-based crit CER bonus (DEX BONUS - WEAPON SIZE PENALTY) / 4. (It is unclear if this can go negative, or how this is rounded, if at all).		Stat-based crit CER bonus (DEX BONUS - WEAPON SIZE PENALTY) / 4. (It is unclear if this can go negative, or how this is rounded, if at all).

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	Notes: Max critical rank is rounded down ([[trunc]]ated) to a whole number. Weighting values are ''never randomized'' as part of the max critical rank calculation: the full combat effectiveness value is always added. Padding values are randomized for values greater than 6 padding points of combat effectiveness; see [[padding]] for more details.		Notes: Max critical rank is rounded down ([[trunc]]ated) to a whole number. Weighting values are ''never randomized'' as part of the max critical rank calculation: the full combat effectiveness value is always added. Padding values are randomized for values greater than 6 padding points of combat effectiveness; see [[padding]] for more details.

⚫	===Example===

⚫	You attack and hit a creature wearing soft leather armor for 15 raw damage. Since the [[critical divisor]] of soft leather armor is 6, it would normally have, without any weapon weighting, a max crit rank of {{mono\|[[trunc]](15/6) {{=}} 2}}. An attack with a heavily crit weighted weapon (10 points of combat effectiveness rating) will increase the total damage used to calculate the crit rank. To determine the max crit rank divide the sum of the raw and crit damage by the armor crit divisor and truncate the result. In this example it is {{mono\|trunc[(15 raw + 10 crit) / 6] {{=}} 4}}. Therefore, the actual maximum crit rank possible has increased from 2 with a non-weighted weapon to 4 when weapon crit weighting is added. Bear in mind that this damage is not actually [[HP]] damage as yet, it is only used to determine the maximum critical rank. The final critical rank is subject to [[critical randomization]].

⚫	Critical weighting cannot increase the rank of a hit that would have been a critical rank 0 otherwise.

	Characters have natural crit weighting derived from DEX bonus. GILCHRISTR's research indicates that 1 potential phantom damage is added for each 4 bonus. There are also some abilities that can temporarily bestow crit weighting, such as [[Sigil of Major Bane]]. These effects are applied additively to any weapon weighting and to each other. They apply to ranged and bolt attacks as well (which normally have no weapon-based weighting).		Characters have natural crit weighting derived from DEX bonus. GILCHRISTR's research indicates that 1 potential phantom damage is added for each 4 bonus. There are also some abilities that can temporarily bestow crit weighting, such as [[Sigil of Major Bane]]. These effects are applied additively to any weapon weighting and to each other. They apply to ranged and bolt attacks as well (which normally have no weapon-based weighting).
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	For a lance, the user needs 56 STR bonus to benefit from their full DEX bonus. For a spear, it's 20 STR bonus.		For a lance, the user needs 56 STR bonus to benefit from their full DEX bonus. For a spear, it's 20 STR bonus.

		⚫	===Example===

		⚫	You attack and hit a creature wearing soft leather armor for 15 raw damage. Since the [[critical divisor]] of soft leather armor is 6, it would normally have, without any weapon weighting, a max crit rank of {{mono\|[[trunc]](15/6) {{=}} 2}}. An attack with a heavily crit weighted weapon (10 points of combat effectiveness rating) will increase the total damage used to calculate the crit rank. To determine the max crit rank divide the sum of the raw and crit damage by the armor crit divisor and truncate the result. In this example it is {{mono\|trunc[(15 raw + 10 crit) / 6] {{=}} 4}}. Therefore, the actual maximum crit rank possible has increased from 2 with a non-weighted weapon to 4 when weapon crit weighting is added. Bear in mind that this damage is not actually [[HP]] damage as yet, it is only used to determine the maximum critical rank. The final critical rank is subject to [[critical randomization]].

		⚫	Critical weighting cannot increase the rank of a hit that would have been a critical rank 0 otherwise.

	===Ambush===		===Ambush===

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	Characters have natural crit weighting derived from DEX bonus. GILCHRISTR's research indicates that 1 potential phantom damage is added for each 4 bonus. There are also some abilities that can temporarily bestow crit weighting, such as [[Sigil of Major Bane]]. These effects are applied additively to any weapon weighting and to each other. They apply to ranged and bolt attacks as well (which normally have no weapon-based weighting).		Characters have natural crit weighting derived from DEX bonus. GILCHRISTR's research indicates that 1 potential phantom damage is added for each 4 bonus. There are also some abilities that can temporarily bestow crit weighting, such as [[Sigil of Major Bane]]. These effects are applied additively to any weapon weighting and to each other. They apply to ranged and bolt attacks as well (which normally have no weapon-based weighting).

			[https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/532373273816858636/692611152995418143 According to Naijin], the stat-based crit weighting for swung weapons is:

			WEAPON SIZE PENALTY: SUMMATION(WEAPON SPEED + 1 - (OPEN OFF HAND?3:0) * 2), where SUMMATION is a seed 1 summation. This penalty cannot go below 0 (i.e. cannot actually be a bonus). "Open off hand" is considered true for two-handed weapons with an open left hand.

			Stat-based crit CER bonus (DEX BONUS - WEAPON SIZE PENALTY) / 4. (It is unclear if this can go negative, or how this is rounded, if at all).

			For a lance, the user needs 56 STR bonus to benefit from their full DEX bonus. For a spear, it's 20 STR bonus.

	===Ambush===		===Ambush===

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	Characters have natural crit weighting derived from DEX bonus. GILCHRISTR's research indicates that 1 potential phantom damage is added for each 4 bonus. There are also some abilities that can temporarily bestow crit weighting, such as [[Sigil of Major Bane]]. These effects are applied additively to any weapon weighting and to each other. They apply to ranged and bolt attacks as well (which normally have no weapon-based weighting).		Characters have natural crit weighting derived from DEX bonus. GILCHRISTR's research indicates that 1 potential phantom damage is added for each 4 bonus. There are also some abilities that can temporarily bestow crit weighting, such as [[Sigil of Major Bane]]. These effects are applied additively to any weapon weighting and to each other. They apply to ranged and bolt attacks as well (which normally have no weapon-based weighting).

			===Ambush===

			[[Ambush]]ing from hiding has additional critical weighting based on training as well as a [[stance]] pushdown effect. The exact formula is not known. It has been estimated that a level 100 rogue fully trained in stealth skills receives around 40 to 50 points of weighting when ambushing with a dagger. This bonus only applies when ambushing from hiding, not open ambush/aiming.

	==Damage Weighting==		==Damage Weighting==

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	==Critical Weighting==		==Critical Weighting==
		⚫	Critical weighting increases the critical severity of a successful attack by adding the Combat Effectiveness Rating to the raw HP damage before resolving the critical rank. A weapon with 10 points of critical weighting ("heavily weighted to inflict more critical blows") adds 10 extra phantom damage. '''The full critical weighting is added to each attack.'''

			{{equation box\|{{math\|'''[[Critical\|Max Critical Rank]] {{=}} ([[Raw damage\|Raw Damage]] + Crit Weighting - [[Padding\|Crit Padding]]) / [[Critical divisor\|Armor Critical Divisor]]'''}}}}
⚫	Critical weighting increases the critical severity of a successful attack by adding the Combat Effectiveness Rating to the raw HP damage before resolving the critical rank. A weapon with 10 points of critical weighting ("heavily weighted to inflict more critical blows") adds 10 extra phantom damage. '''The full ~~weapon~~ weighting is added to each attack.''' ~~It is NOT halved and it does not randomize. This includes DEX bonus weighting and [[Sigil of Major Bane]].~~

			Notes: Max critical rank is rounded down ([[trunc]]ated) to a whole number. Weighting values are ''never randomized'' as part of the max critical rank calculation: the full combat effectiveness value is always added. Padding values are randomized for values greater than 6 padding points of combat effectiveness; see [[padding]] for more details.
⚫	~~E.g.,~~ ~~a character attacks~~ and ~~hits~~ a creature wearing soft leather [[armor]] for 15 [[raw damage]]. Since the [[critical divisor]] of soft leather armor is 6, it would normally be, without any weapon weighting, a ~~level~~ 2 ~~<nowiki>[</nowiki>~~[[trunc]](15 / 6)] ~~maximum~~ ~~crit rank~~. An attack with a heavily crit weighted weapon ~~will~~ ~~increase~~ ~~the~~ ~~total~~ ~~damage~~ ~~used~~ to ~~calculate~~ the ~~crit rank. Bear in mind that this~~ damage ~~is not actually [[hitpoint]] damage, it is only~~ used to ~~determine~~ the ~~maximum critical~~ rank. To determine the max crit rank divide the sum of the raw and crit damage by the armor crit divisor and truncate the result. In this example it is {{mono\|trunc[(15 raw + 10 crit) / 6]}}. Therefore, the actual maximum crit rank possible has increased from 2 with a non-weighted weapon to 4 when weapon crit weighting is added.

			===Example===
	Critical weighting cannot increase the rank of a hit that would have been a critical rank 0 otherwise. Characters have natural crit weighting derived from DEX bonus. GILCHRISTR's research indicates that 1 potential phantom damage is added for each 4 bonus.

		⚫	You attack and hit a creature wearing soft leather armor for 15 raw damage. Since the [[critical divisor]] of soft leather armor is 6, it would normally have, without any weapon weighting, a max crit rank of {{mono\|[[trunc]](15/6) {{=}} 2}}. An attack with a heavily crit weighted weapon (10 points of combat effectiveness rating) will increase the total damage used to calculate the crit rank. To determine the max crit rank divide the sum of the raw and crit damage by the armor crit divisor and truncate the result. In this example it is {{mono\|trunc[(15 raw + 10 crit) / 6] {{=}} 4}}. Therefore, the actual maximum crit rank possible has increased from 2 with a non-weighted weapon to 4 when weapon crit weighting is added. Bear in mind that this damage is not actually [[HP]] damage as yet, it is only used to determine the maximum critical rank. The final critical rank is subject to [[critical randomization]].
	(Note: There is some variation on critical hits. See [[critical randomization]].)

			Critical weighting cannot increase the rank of a hit that would have been a critical rank 0 otherwise.

			Characters have natural crit weighting derived from DEX bonus. GILCHRISTR's research indicates that 1 potential phantom damage is added for each 4 bonus. There are also some abilities that can temporarily bestow crit weighting, such as [[Sigil of Major Bane]]. These effects are applied additively to any weapon weighting and to each other. They apply to ranged and bolt attacks as well (which normally have no weapon-based weighting).

	==Damage Weighting==		==Damage Weighting==

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			{{Otheruses4\|the weapon property that increases damage dealt by attacks\|items' physical weights\|WEIGHT (verb)}}
	There are two types of '''weighting''': [[#Critical Weighting\|critical weighting]] and [[#Damage Weighting\|damage weighting]]. A damage weighted weapon increases the amount of damage dealt by the weapon without increasing the severity of the [[critical]]. A critical weighted weapon, however, possibly increases the level of the critical caused by an attack without increasing damage beyond that dealt by the increased critical.

			'''Weighting''' is a rare property on physical weapons that a increases the damage dealt by successful hits. There are two types of weighting: '''critical weighting''' increases the potential critical rank of the hit, and '''damage weighting''' increases [[health\|HP]] damage.

			Both types of weighting are measured by '''Combat Effectiveness Rating''', usually from 0 to 50 points.

			[[Warrior]]s can {{mono\|[[ASSESS]]}} weapons to determine their exact number of points of critical and/or damage weighting. {{mono\|ASSESS}} also provides a verbal description, such as "''decently'' weighted to inflict more critical blows", which can be used as an in-character way to describe the property. The relationship between verbal descriptions and combat effectiveness is shown on the table to the right.

			<span class="alert-warning">As of the [[/saved posts#Weighting, Padding, Sighting Revamp 2017\|August 2017 update]], weighting has been changed to a [[item properties\|Category C]] item property and can coexist with all other properties, including both critical and damage weighting on the same item.</span>

	==Critical Weighting==		==Critical Weighting==
	'''Critical Weighting''' (crit weighting) is a property of weapons that adds "phantom" damage to an attack for the purpose of determining the severity of the critical injury. The actual weight of the weapon seen by use of the [[WEIGHT (verb)]] is completely unrelated to critical weighting.

		⚫	Critical weighting increases the critical severity of a successful attack by adding the Combat Effectiveness Rating to the raw HP damage before resolving the critical rank. A weapon with 10 points of critical weighting ("heavily weighted to inflict more critical blows") adds 10 extra phantom damage. '''The full weapon weighting is added to each attack.''' It is NOT halved and it does not randomize. This includes DEX bonus weighting and [[Sigil of Major Bane]].
	=== Example ===
⚫	~~The~~ ~~amount~~ of ~~phantom~~ ~~damage~~ ~~added~~ is ~~equal~~ to the ~~critical~~ ~~weighting~~ ~~points~~ of the ~~weapon.~~ A ~~heavily~~ ~~crit~~ ~~weighted~~ ~~weapon~~ ~~(which~~ ~~has~~ a ~~numerical~~ ~~value~~ of 9 to 11 ~~points,~~ ~~but~~ ~~for~~ ~~these~~ ~~purposes~~ ~~we'll~~ ~~say~~ 10) adds 10 extra phantom damage. '''The full weapon weighting is added to each attack.''' It is NOT halved and it does not randomize. This includes DEX bonus weighting and [[Sigil of Major Bane]].

	E.g., a character attacks and hits a creature wearing soft leather [[armor]] for 15 [[raw damage]]. Since the [[critical divisor]] of soft leather armor is 6, it would normally be, without any weapon weighting, a level 2 <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[trunc]](15 / 6)] maximum crit rank. An attack with a heavily crit weighted weapon will increase the total damage used to calculate the crit rank. Bear in mind that this damage is not actually [[hitpoint]] damage, it is only used to determine the maximum critical rank. To determine the max crit rank divide the sum of the raw and crit damage by the armor crit divisor and truncate the result. In this example it is {{mono\|trunc[(15 raw + 10 crit) / 6]}}. Therefore, the actual maximum crit rank possible has increased from 2 with a non-weighted weapon to 4 when weapon crit weighting is added.		E.g., a character attacks and hits a creature wearing soft leather [[armor]] for 15 [[raw damage]]. Since the [[critical divisor]] of soft leather armor is 6, it would normally be, without any weapon weighting, a level 2 <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[trunc]](15 / 6)] maximum crit rank. An attack with a heavily crit weighted weapon will increase the total damage used to calculate the crit rank. Bear in mind that this damage is not actually [[hitpoint]] damage, it is only used to determine the maximum critical rank. To determine the max crit rank divide the sum of the raw and crit damage by the armor crit divisor and truncate the result. In this example it is {{mono\|trunc[(15 raw + 10 crit) / 6]}}. Therefore, the actual maximum crit rank possible has increased from 2 with a non-weighted weapon to 4 when weapon crit weighting is added.
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