Talk:Bolt spell

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I know this is formatted horribly, but I'm still trying to figure out how to create tables here. If you know how, please enlighten (or do it for me! *grin*) Doom Duck 02:09, 3 January 2006 (CST)

I fixed it up for you. Ildran 03:35, 3 January 2006 (CST)
Check out Help:Editing for tables and other formating stuff. Anshou 10:30, 3 January 2006 (CST)

I'd LOVE to see the Tonis Bolt DF's/AvD's... Anyone know them? ALKALOIDS 12:36, 3 February 2006 (PST)


I'm really not a fan of how these tables are not consistent with other weapon DF/AvD tables... can we correct that? HJELTE (talk) 18:59, 30 March 2015 (CDT)

Why? A bolt is not a weapon. Plus, you can sort these. The last 4 columns of the weapon tables are completely inapplicable to bolts. VANKRASN39 (talk) 19:13, 30 March 2015 (CDT)
True, but I'd propose a new template rather than completing separating out the two stats. It's difficult to get a good gauge for a spell when looking between the two charts.HJELTE (talk) 19:17, 30 March 2015 (CDT)
If you want to combine them, but preserve the sortable table on the page, then I say go right ahead. See the CMan page for an example of where I added a table but kept the old listed format. I do have an issue with the page seemingly being claimed by the wizard profession, which adds to the impression that bolts are only for wizards :P VANKRASN39 (talk) 19:32, 30 March 2015 (CDT)
I may create a new template, similar to the weapon template, without the RT, and add a lores section or something, and start populating those for their respective spells. I wouldn't remove anything in any foreseeable future. I'd just like to see the data centralized in a nice template category or something like the weapons. But... this is when/if I get the time to clean that up! HJELTE (talk) 19:38, 30 March 2015 (CDT)

DF per mana

In my opinion DF per mana should not be listed in these tables. For anyone who finds the information useful the numbers are easy to calculate on their own, and sorting spells by this value is misleading because it ignores the damage from critical tables as well as dex-based weighting effects. ZHOUY1 (talk) 13:26, 10 February 2016 (CST)

I concur. Additionally, it shows Web Bolt as costing 18 mana. It only costs 9. VANKRASN39 (talk) 13:35, 10 February 2016 (CST)

Telekinesis (1206)

How should we display this in the Damage Factors comparison table? There are 5 versions of the spell (mana use 6-10). Some options:

  1. Include rows for all 5 versions
  2. One row with a range (which would make the columns wider and probably mess up the sort)
  3. Do two rows for the 6 and 10 mana versions and make a note at the bottom
  4. Something else
VANKRASN39 (talk) 15:46, 10 September 2018 (CDT)
My preference is option 3 (two rows). It is similar to how Holy Bolt's multiple values are currently shown and won't clutter the table. ZHOUY1 (talk) 17:15, 10 September 2018 (CDT)