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* [[Grishom Stone]] - hope someone else gets to this first, but i heard a rumor that Grishom Stone appeared in one of Stormyrain's visions recently so this article may need updating at some point again
* [[Grishom Stone]] - hope someone else gets to this first, but i heard a rumor that Grishom Stone appeared in one of Stormyrain's visions recently so this article may need updating at some point again
* [[Dyer's tent#Failure messaging|Dyer's tent failure messaging]] - see Discussion page for a low priority test project
* [[Dyer's tent#Failure messaging|Dyer's tent failure messaging]] - see Discussion page for a low priority test project
* [[Mist Harbor Herbs]] and [[Mist Harbor Herbalist]] seem to be related, and may need to be kept as two separate pages for good reason, but I hope to look into why there are two pages and not only one. I'm assuming the "Mist Harbor Herbs" was created as part of the category of Herbs maybe, and that the "Mist Harbor Herbalist" was created as part of the category of Shops.
* [[Drunkenness in Elanthia]] I used to know a lot about this topic, might still be among the experts. But I could not so far find information about it on the gswiki. So maybe a Drunkenness Guide is needed! Maybe not! Just something to think about.


== Slow as Syrup ==
== Slow as Syrup ==

Revision as of 11:45, 17 February 2020

Me and My Chars

EMail: FIRENSIA at play.net
Discord: Essy#4085
Characters: Soliere

Oh So Helpful

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Templates: All - Big - Character Profile - Container - Festshop - Log-inline - Log2 - NPC Shops - PH Shops - Prettytable - RoomDescription - Sign - TOCright
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Examples: Complex Table - Mall with Many Shops - Nice Messaging Box - Storyline NPC Box - Homes Shop with Two Rooms - Item with Several Different Types - My Sandbox - My Subpages

Hurry and Finish

  • Spirit Night 5119 - add information for this year's tables
  • Marroux and Haert - add information for the uncommon or non-herb items in the list
  • Category: Frontier Days - may need a bit of cleanup
  • Frontier Days 2017 - link to Craft Bazaar goes to Craft Bazaar 2018, should go to Craft Bazaar 2017
  • Craft Bazaar - leads to Craft Bazaar 2018, needs fixing, waiting to see if there will be a Craft Bazaar 2019 page
  • Town Purchasable UCS Gear - need to add the other types of UCS gear to the existing list
  • Triage Station - research the backroom items and add findings
  • Frith's Inn - states: "all activities at a table are private" but I am pretty sure it's wrong, research and fix if needed
  • Symbol of the Proselyte (340) - Saved Posts - On Play.net - Convert - Holy Symbols - DragonSpine Fane - needs to not confuse so many people
  • Holy Receptacle (325) - Silver to Gold - Nexus - Chrism - Brimstone - Intercession - Gem cutter - needs to not confuse so many people
  • Sigil Staff - who was it that found some sort of bug that caused weird things to happen with Sigil Staff recently, and does it need to be noted here?
  • Raging Thrak Inn - stub, needs some stuff added
  • Table - there are some technical details that vary among the tables in various locations, I want to research this and make a note of the differences
  • Elaraeyn's Boutique - fixed a few things already, but want to go back and thoroughly check for any changes in menus, pricing, room description (some things seem to have recently changed)
  • Mirrors of Elanthia - is this a valid idea? it is a question frequently asked in the game and on lnet, where can i find a mirror to check out my new makeup/look, so just thought this may be a very helpful page to create, however, i want to get more feedback on this first. want to mention that mirrors at Elaraeyn's Boutique (;go2 4051 and ;go2 4052 both have mirrors) and Temple Wedding Room in WL for sure if such a page is created (note from CLTIDBALL: the Feature Pavilions in every town have mirrors, just north of the entrance room, in the Hair Quirk ('Hair Adornment') rooms)
  • Smoking pipe - see discussion page, need to figure out if DROP verb works on all pipes, or only new pipes, and fix article
  • Ayana leaf - create redirects from Ayana berry and other interchangeable Ayana like Ayana root etc, to lead to the Ayana leaf page which explains the interchangeability
  • Foraging locations - examine this and see if more info can be added based on my frequent foraging habits
  • Talk:Settlement of Reim - small glowing orb redirect?
  • Reim Base Camp#Reim Base Camp, Armory - already fixed one thing, is there more here that needs clarification?
  • RNUMS for locker areas for Zul, RR, Solhaven, ask tsammolg and nomamyj for help if needed, make sure the RNUMS end up here: Silvergate Inn - Locker - Good Locker Page
  • Talk:Blessing - test test test
  • Portrait locket - fill in more information about the three types of lockets, i own pairs of all three types, need to share the info (loresing, inspect, analyze, look, and test verb traps)
  • Zul Logoth General Store - purchase items and loresing, inspect, analyze, test verb traps
  • Room design#Gardens - fill in info, pretty sure i have all these scented flowers somewhere for spa use at the house, also see Room and Room design
  • Seasonal weapon and armor carts - fill in info for the various weapons that have no info
  • Loresinging - test flare messaging and correct
  • No contact order - create this? Or does it belong here PvP and CvC Conflict? Wyrom's post is here No Contact Order
  • Mini-boss - find more mini-bosses and fill in table. research the 3 types of bosses as described by a GM awhile back when bosses were new, and make sure the Mini-boss article is appropriate, it seemed like i can't find any wiki page for the "other two types" of bosses, and if those pages do not exists, figure out whether to create pages for them, or simply to redirect their search words towards the existing Mini-boss article and expand it a little to include info about the "other two types" of bosses. ask for help on this, it is complicated. and very low priority.
  • Brawling info is somewhat fragmented, scattered, and difficult for new folks to understand, is there a newbie guide for it already? if not, low priority, but look into making one? Brawling weapons#Brawling Weapons and Unarmed Combat - Unarmed combat system#Weapons Compatible with Unarmed Combat - Town purchasable UCS gear - Fantabulous UAC - Anfelt weapons
  • Talk:Loresinging - monitor flares discussion, trap difficulty discussion, correct later
  • CHECK IN (verb) - someone on lnet was making themselves a list of places to Check In throughout Elanthia and I helped them with their project. With their permission, I would like to update this gswiki page to show the locations and RNUM's that we found
  • Spirit death - will using BOOST ENHANCIVE STATS cause a spirit death if the boost runs out while your spirit is low, and the resulting spirit drain causes you to dip below 1 spirit? I would like to test this, because no one really seems to know the answer, and I would like to add a cautionary note to the Spirit death page and the Enhancive boost page if this could result in Spirit death. Also, I would like to research the other ways it is possible to die a Spirit death. As a cleric I have encountered a few other ways to die Spirit death than are listed in the article, but I can not remember offhand.
  • Colors guide - I want to create this guide, though unsure it is appropriate for gswiki (where would it fit?) to include the following information: an alphabetic listing of colors, along with where you might find that color, which will include Dyer's tent information, shop info like Berrytoe's Bare Essentials where you can "order" something in a custom color like dirt brown, coffee-hued, or cameline, but there is no SIMPLE way to look for your favorite color, or easily explore unusual colors that might be available. Don't forget commonly sold makeup colors too, for those attempting to color coordinate an overall fashion look, such as colors from Shear Delight. Don't forget custom colors for sheath making, fletching, cobbling, and other guild or artisan skills. Perhaps include the natural color of colored pelts if there are any natural-occurring odd/unusual colors. This is low priority for me, but it eats at me every time I must go search 100 gswiki articles to prove to myself that a color exists or doesn't exist. Need to research, is there an existing guide made by GM's which lists the acceptable alteration colors in Elanthia? Also may want to create a Materials guide which would be relatively simple to create alongside the Colors guide. It would include materials for forging, fletching, sheath making, and materials that are custom-orderable from various shops like Berrytoe's Bare Essentials in Icemule or the Landing's General Store.
  • Cosmetics - this page is sad and needs to be made more fantabulous. With the information I have gleaned from spa work and purchasing mass quantities of cosmetics, I may be able to work on this project. Low priority, but fun fun fun.
  • Imaera - should these be somehow linked to or from the Imaera page: Robed human priestess and Imaera's Bounty Herbalist. So often there is a richness to Gemstone that takes way too long to discover. For example, the fact I after 24 years had never realized that a wandering priestess was a priestess of Imaera. I DO NOT wish to crosslink these pages without consulting with VANKRASN because she has done the bulk of the work on the Arkati pages, and I do not wish to muck it up without their blessing!
  • Common words and their definitions - Terms like "OTS"/"off-the-shelf" and "tier" are not easy to understand, nor would they be easy to explain in an article, but I would like to think on a best way to address the issue. It is possible they belong in a New Player Guide and that perhaps one already exists. However, it would be nice if a search of these terms led to some gswiki page with information. Think on this.
  • "gleams faintly with inner light" as a Loresinging result from a weapon - what does it mean, sanctified, ebladed, edged, consecrated, etc? Try to find out and include this message in Loresinging article. (note from CLTIDBALL: The 'gleams faintly with inner light' has a 99% chance of bein 902, since that's what the weapon LOOKs like when it's Edged. Uncertain for sure (that 1% can be a pain in the kester), but fairly confident.)
  • Arkati - Chrism holder - Arkati box - Holy symbol creation - Symbol of the Proselyte (340) - Symbol of the Proselyte (340)/saved posts - DragonSpine Fane - CONVERT (verb) - Smite/Bane (302) - Intercession Formula - Intercession - Research:Intercession - Deity messaging Cross-check these pages for messaging, completeness, while making sure to seek counsel from VANKRASN and also some clerics before making changes.
  • 517 - There were at last visit a couple of small errors or inconsistencies among these pages, I need to really dig deep and find and correct them if no one else does first: Charge Item (517) - Charge Item (guide) - Charge Item (517)/saved posts - Recharge - Recharging crystals - Magical Item Guide - Enhancive item#Charges
  • Gargoyles - I would like to make sure that each gargoyle I met has their own page which includes their description and perhaps a sample log showing their personality, from this event, and would in particular like to make a record of Scornach's very cute gargoyle joke, which he gave me permission to publish but I'd like to confirm that permission extends to gswiki in particular Windfellow's Retreat Festival 2019
  • Stormbrow Gift Shop - need to purchase items which have no details listed and loresing/analyze/inspect/look at them, update the article with info.
  • Moving companies - create this article after investigating whether it would even be helpful. Locate the various town movers/moving companies and see if they all relate enough to have a main page like this which could explain how moving works and list the various companies.
  • Talk:Plume and Glove - see Maldaye topic on discussion page
  • Silvergate Inn/CHE Locker/House Clerk project - fill in Annexes info (include rnum or dirs from town center?) (add "what to tap" etc) - HH Annexes - HB Annexes - CHE - Borthuum Company Store - - CHE gswiki - Clerk Locations - CHE saved posts - Locker
  • Pawnshop project - Pawnshop - Category:NPC Shops - at end, double check if i was consistent with how the original two pawnshops were formatted
  • Tables - check it over, see if more can be added
  • Temples of Elanthia - YES YES YES i would love to see a temples page that is called this specifically due to wanting to leave "temple" wide open to receive 500 search results for research purposes, at least until it is determined that the temples page is complete, maybe do this as an experiment in creating things in my userspace so they are not initially searchable, maybe do the work in notepad and just make it a live page from the outset, who knows
  • Furriers - needs love
  • Kharam Dzu Temple - needs love
  • SpriteCloak - reformatted table and added messaging for my off-the-shelf (unlocked ) coat, but after i get my coat unlocked, need to go back and add 3rd person messaging for unlocked coat. my coat is "a knee-length tawny leather overcoat" and currently Janturion is holding it, for future reference!!
  • Tonight I noticed this lnet advertisement, and could not find information on gswiki about a Dispel flare: "Symbion's Store: 4x dispel flaring rune wristlet/staff: it is a runestaff I made using a Dispel token. It flares like a normal flare, and removes 1 spell from the opponent. This one is a rune wristlet as well so that means it turns into a bracelet, and back into a runestaff by morphing." Here are some flare links that may need to be updated with the Dispel flare, and I am trying to reach Symbion to see if he will let me loresing to his staff and get the messaging for that at least: Ebon Gate auto flarer - Item properties - Flare - Loresinging#Weapon/Armor Abilities - Custom flare messaging - (User:VANKRASN39/flare sandbox VANKRASN39 seems to be working on a better flares page, and her page looks very nice and ALREADY HAS Dispel flare info.)
  • A Twist of Roses - I added cosmetic descriptions in italics, but i think it would look better in table format, however, i didn't have time for table formatting, but a project for later.
  • Surname#Locations - the location listed here for Ta'Illistim does not appear to be correct any longer, although i might just not be finding the "cottage" where it is supposed to be. But i found another location in Ta'Illistim that appears to have a surname registry. Need to figure out if the location changed, and if so, update this article. (not sure if this article can help: Ta'Illistim Keep
  • god weddings - there may or may not be some outdated information in some of the articles, knowledgeable people on lnet can not seem to agree what is the status of weddings in gs, so will take some time to sift thru and figure out what is current information, is anyone else working on this? find out before starting and do a more thorough search of documentation, these are just a few links - Cathedral Wedding Tips - Cathedral Weddings - Wedding tent locations
  • Dyer's tent#Locations - check it over, see if other lich#'s or directions can be added
  • Face painting#Usage - this can be made slightly clearer if i can find my cloths (cloth, washcloth, face cloth, gauze, cotton square, square, etc) and figure out which ones actually remove face paint.. iirc there are maybe 3-4 types of cloths, possibly each worth having their own gswiki article, that do distinctly different cosmetic or ink removal things. even i get them confused and i have extensively tested them! and lost my notes!
  • Bundling strap existence - my test failed, so maybe i was wrong, but i want to think further on it and brainstorm with some other people who were around 24 years ago in WL who might have done this same thing. if i could find Jaalmar/Haakon he might remember, he was who taught me the trick because of my extreme low strength - bundling skins meant i did not need a skins bag, and all my bags at the time were fairly heavy. i know i'm crazy, but regarding this bundling strap/rope/cord matter i really think it existed in GS.
  • Daephron Illian and Terate Niebelun and Fraen Wasstont (name on spider charm) - do a bit more research, i could not on first search of gswiki find a page or information relating to the meteor/ite that threatened Elanthia a couple of years ago around autumn maybe of 2017, i'd like to find if there is an article or log posted about it and be sure there is a gswiki history page for it, and if not, find a log of the day the old man spoke and died and make sure there's an article about that character (there is one mention of Fraen Wasstont here Kaight but it is from gs platinum so may even vary from how the story went in regular gs) (very low priority but to me, this is one of the most enjoyable todo items on my list, that was a nice continuation of a very old story that i had great interest in from years back, and i just don't want it to go without some mention on gswiki)
  • Pawnshop - there are some tips that could be incorporated here to make new folks'es lives in the game a lot easier
  • Portrait locket - Unique Feature Lockets section is missing from this page. need to find my old lockets and test them if possible. also seek out people who own Variable Expression lockets for the following moods and incorporate the info into the tables: Giggly (whisper 1st and 3rd), Evil (rub gaze whisper 1st and 3rd), Happy Drunk (rub gaze whisper 1st and 3rd), Fear (rub gaze whisper 1st and 3rd). many more need 3rd person messaging added later too
  • Deepening#Automated Deepening Certificates - read over this and see if it can be made any clearer, it is one of the things that seems to confused a lot of people, even really smart people
  • Coffee and tea brewing - A Taste of Truth - Tea Leaves - keep improving these if possible, especially adding stove/kettle locations and making sure to read what i posted on the Discussion page of Coffee and tea brewing for more details of what i hope to work on in the future
  • Grishom Stone - hope someone else gets to this first, but i heard a rumor that Grishom Stone appeared in one of Stormyrain's visions recently so this article may need updating at some point again
  • Dyer's tent failure messaging - see Discussion page for a low priority test project
  • Mist Harbor Herbs and Mist Harbor Herbalist seem to be related, and may need to be kept as two separate pages for good reason, but I hope to look into why there are two pages and not only one. I'm assuming the "Mist Harbor Herbs" was created as part of the category of Herbs maybe, and that the "Mist Harbor Herbalist" was created as part of the category of Shops.
  • Drunkenness in Elanthia I used to know a lot about this topic, might still be among the experts. But I could not so far find information about it on the gswiki. So maybe a Drunkenness Guide is needed! Maybe not! Just something to think about.

Slow as Syrup

Line breaks other than <br>

ECHEAUX had asked: Is there an existing template - other than {{log2}} that can be used to add line breaks more efficiently than <br>?

style guide answer

For log files that are ONLY the complete log itself, the log2 template is to be used, and with particular settings, according to the style guide here: Help:Style#Logs

log3

log3 template
Generally used for:
-- complete event logs, sometimes
example: G'bruk and trolls (log) and Ties That Bind medal ceremony (log) and The Citadel's last stand (log) and Forest gnome clothing (log)
opening tag: <pre{{log3}}>

log2

log2 template
Generally used for:
-- "log snippets" such as Coup de Grace and Lock Mastery and Lesser demon/saved posts and Policy
-- small bits of a log interspersed within a larger article (adds clarity by causing log text to stand out from the actual article text, by way of a different background color and traditional monospaced log font) (my guess is that it also makes for less eye strain and easier reading for folks with eye or concentration problems, which is why I used only log2 in my work so far, such as for buildings whose rooms are not shops and thus can not use the {{NPC Shops}} template, like Urgaen's Pawnshop and the other Pawnshops)
-- when showing the Usage and Syntax of a Verb, such as Loresinging
-- "signs" posted inside event shops, such as Briarmoon Cove/shop list
-- spell messaging, such as Curse_(715)#Messaging
-- cases like this, though I am unsure of what you call a case like this, where information is being pulled from some other page and listed inside of a log2 template but not editable (maybe a transclusion? i hear that word sometimes, but truly am not sure what it is): Premium home furniture
-- i believe the log2 template was possibly formerly used in shop listings (the results of "ORDER" listed as they appear in a log, followed by a table of "extra info" about items sold, when appropriate), however, this use has been replaced by the template {{NPC Shops}} in its field called |inventory=
example: the log snippets here: The Nazhor Chronicles/Chapter One/2019-03-03 Arrival of Socius (log) and Those Aren't Tears/2018-08-27 Penre Peddles (log)
opening tag: <pre{{log2}}>

log2 tweaked

log2 template with some tweaks
Generally used for:
-- occasionally used, but most people have seemed to use plain "log2" and plain "log3"
-- note that I have never seen a pink background on gswiki, but have used pink here to show the many possibilities of customizing the log2 template because you asked about different ways etc. one really only needs the log2 template to achieve a variety of effects. log2 template can even be made to appear identical to the log3 template by a simple change in the settings for log2.
examples of cases, showing how this tag can be customized in different ways, are here (Template:Log2) and below
opening tag: <pre{{log2|font-size=100%|background=pink|border=on|font=Times New Roman|margin-right=50%}}>
log2 template with some tweaks, case A
note that this example shows log2 looking exactly like log3
examples of log2 template with some tweaks, case A: The Broken Lands and ki-lin: Part 2 (log) and Orrisian speaks about the Chronomage obelisk in Danjirland (log)
opening tag, log2 template with some tweaks, case A:<pre{{log2|font-size=100%|background=white|border=none|font=arial|margin-right=10%}}>
log2 template with some tweaks, case B
example of log2 template with some tweaks, case B: Fehala's Imaera commune (log)
opening tag, log2 template with some tweaks, case B: <pre{{log2|background=none|border=none}}>
log2 template with some tweaks, case C
examples of log2 template with some tweaks, case C: Interfaith Luncheon (log) and Brieson discusses the history of the Ilvari (log) and Unarmed combat advice (log) and How to Win Bardfest (log) and Paidreg's return (log)
opening tag, log2 template with some tweaks, case C: .<pre{{log2|font=arial|border=none}}>

log-inline

log-inline template
Generally used for:
-- formatting text in monospaced font inside a table cell (in Verb, Spell, Special Shop, and Other Articles)
examples, Spell articles, in Messaging tables: Spell 116, Spell 125, Spell 520, Spell 917, Spell 1604
examples, Verb articles, in Messaging tables: Verb IMPRINT, Verb TRANSFER
examples, Special Shop articles, in Items For Sale tables: BVShop (in the Unlock Waiver tables, in column 2), EGShop1 (in tables in column 2), EGShop2 (in tables in column 2, spell information), FDShop (in tables in column 2),  PSFShop (in tables in column 2, spell information)
examples, Other Articles, Messaging or other use: Forging, Night at the Academy (near bottom of Prizes table, column 3)
opening tag: <pre{{log-inline}}>

log

log template (this log template has been retired and is not usable any longer), example: Template:Log, opening tag: <div{{log}}>, and in this template, you still needed to use either double-spaced lines or <br> tags for single-spaced lines, to show line breaks

double-spaced text

When a log is double-spaced, it appears to not need the <br> tags. Just thought it worth a mention.

examples: Host Forum (log) and Court dances of New Ta'Faendryl (log) and Mentor style class (log)

paragraphs with a space at the beginning

By adding one space before the beginning of a paragraph, you get this type of formatting. I'm not sure why. But have seen this used when log bits interspersed within an article do not have line breaks in them. I know you asked about line breaks in particular, but just thought this was worth noting. example: snippets at the bottom of the summary section near the top here: The Nazhor Chronicles/Chapter One/2019-03-03 Arrival of Socius (log)

other notes

An important thing to keep in mind is that sometimes an author had a particular purpose in mind when using a non-standard log format. Often on a discussion page they will mention why they did something differently, and often for very good reason (a GM requested it, etc). So even though you may want to vary from log2 template, it may not be a good thing to do so unless a GM has told you to do something different, etc. One thing that may be worth thought concerning the black-on-white nonstandard template like log3, is that black-on-white may contribute to eyestrain (though I do not have any source to back that up, it's just something I remember reading somewhere).

There is one other log template I have seen, but I could not find it yet.