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==Initial Request for Input==
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Hi, all,

We've been working on a design for 340 and want to solicit player feedback on the proposal.

[[Symbol of the Proselyte (340)|Staff of the Proselyte (340)]]: [[Cleric]]s are called upon to convert new followers to their flock and to punish the unrepentant. When cast upon the target's [[runestaff]], the caster receives a Spirit [[CS]] or bolt [[Attack strength|AS]] bonus equal to 5 + the cleric's ([[INF]] bonus / 2) for the next few warding or bolt spells. It has base duration of 2 casts + 1 additional cast per ([[Spiritual Lore, Blessings]] skill / 50). If the target's spell is cast against an opposing alignment of the cleric (Bane/Smite) then there is an additional +CS/AS modifier equal to the cleric's ([[WIS]] bonus / 3). In addition, when the attack is made, instead of adding a d100, it will use 50 + d50 (similar to the [[Truehand]] CMAN). To gain the benefit of this effect, the target would [[CHANT (verb)|CHANT]] to their runestaff, initiating the buff for the next cast.

To summarize, you'd receive about ~+25 CS/AS with your next attack spell and use a 50 + d50 roll in the attack formula. It is castable on others, but it only works on runestaves and only people with sufficient runestaff training can active it. With reasonable training, you can get about 4 charges per cast.

[[GameMaster]] Estild<br>
Cleric/[[Empath]] Team 

===Duration===
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<i>>>What's to stop a player from keeping it up constantly by either casting it over and over.</i>

The duration would be refreshable, not stackable.


<i>>>or even pre-loading it into a cloakful of runestaves?</i>

Then that's a lot of extra effort and [[encumbrance]] to deal with. If we see that it's a problem, I'm sure we can come up with a solution, but I don't envision this being a desirable strategy.

<nowiki>= - GM Oscuro - =</nowiki>

[[Rogue]] Team<br>
Cleric/Empath Team 

===Precedent for favoring a specific build with a spell===
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<i>>I guess I find it hard to believe that a mid to upper [[level]] cleric can't afford to keep it up constantly, even being refreshable. Though I freely admit I don't have the gamewide date to back it up. -farmer</i>

40 mana for 4 charges? That'll work out to be around 2 creatures per cast. Most mid level clerics don't even have the mana to use [[Divine Fury]] as a staple.


<i>>Basically, +25 CS for near capped-capped clerics. I didn't know they were lacking in that department. The 50+50 thing seems nice, but eh. Boring, yet useful. Pushes Clerics towards [[Sign of Wracking|wrack]] heavy runestaff users, which will just be another reason used to nerf wracking. -CORDELIA</i>

If Sign of Wracking gets modified, it won't be because of this spell.


<i>..So.. you cast this at your own runestaff? Does this mean I have to keep my runestaff now?-PULSEGIVER</i>

Yes, it'll work on your own runestaff. No, you don't have to keep your runestaff - you can give it to me.


<i>>>What about clerics who don't want to use runestaves? - LADYFLEUR</i>

Then you can still cast the spell on others, but you won't receive any benefit. We have similar spells like [[Divine Shield (1609)]], where we encourage but don't require certain play styles.

GameMaster Estild<br>
Cleric/Empath Team

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<i>>>How is this BETTER than Spirit Slayer.. or is it another "to be used on others" spell?</i>

1) You spend the mana before you go out hunting, so it doesn't cost you 40 mana unless you're using it in the field.

2) You can spread out the casts so they don't have to all happen at once. If you're just trying to kill creature X for a bounty and you cast Spirit Slayer and kill the one you're in front of and can't find another before your duration's up, then you didn't get everything out of your 40 mana. 340 allows you to better control your boosted attacks since you activate each one w/ CHANT {staff}.

3) In addition to the CS bonus, it also gives a Truehand style effect to help guarantee a hit.

4) It can be cast on others.


<i>>>I like the idea, I think the effect should expire if the runestaff is stowed or otherwise leaves the casting cleric's hands for any reason. (ie: disarming the runestaff would remove the effect)</i>

Like [[Bless Item (304)]], Staff of the Proselyte (340) will be able to be cast at another character and it will affect their wielded staff. It's intended to be able to be a service spell in addition to a personal buff.

GM Oscuro 

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<i>>How does this interact with Spirit Slayer? -Nick</i>

It won't. The effect ends immediately after your cast, so it's not present for [[Spirit Slayer (240)]]. [[Spirit Strike (117)]] works similarly.


<i>>I don't like the use of the INF bonus. INF racial bonuses are set for face to face interactions between intelligent [[race]]s. If your race is small or generally despised, you get a racial penalty. If your race is tall you get a racial bonus. You could argue that an [[elf]] should be able to boost a [[dwarf]] more than the dwarf boosts an elf, but I don't think an elf should be able to boost themself more than a dwarf could boost themself. If INF bonus counts, it should be the difference between cleric and target. Or just use stat/4 rather than bonus/2 in the fornula. -RATHBONER</i>

http://www.play.net/gs4/info/stats.asp

Influence: A person's ability to influence others. Some aspects of Influence include leadership, inspiration, persuasion, intimidation, fear, presence, and personal charm or magnetism. Magic or abilities that affect the target's mind or emotions are typically more powerful for casters with a high Influence attribute.

Given the spell's concept, it makes perfect sense to use influence.


<i>>That is more reasonable. I still dont like [[Luukos]]ian clerics give better bonuses than [[Koar]]'s clerics to [[Charl]]'s followers though. -RATHBONER</i>

You'll have to take that up with the Dark God. :P


<i>>Estild, does the spell stay in effect on the item when it is not a runestaff? (i.e. the convertible/wearable [bracelet, headband, belt] runestaves from <some merchant event several years ago>.) Because I could totally see getting a full set [bracelet, headband, belt] and wearing a dozen charges of the spell, in addition to the charges on my runestaff. -KRAKII</i>

My initial impression is yes, the effect would last if you convert the runestaff into another item, but you would only be able to activate it when it is a runestaff. However, I am not sure I like the idea of loading up on charged runestaves, so we may do something to circumvent that.


<i>>Can the sword-canes be converted over so that the "cane" form is deemed to be a runestaff/2Hand weapon, rather than a fluff prop (which is what I believe it is now)? (Basically, this (1HEdged/2Hand)would turn them into bastard swords [only they'd be a "stick" rather than a "sword"].) -KRAKII</i>

Item conversions rarely happen and definitely don't happen so you can make use of new spells. :P


<i>>So, perhaps my issue isn't so much just regarding this spell but more the design philosophy for how all the spells over level 25 seem to be implemented. -Galenok</i>

That's understandable, but given that we already have hundreds of unique spells in the game, it's exceedingly difficult to come up with new unique ideas. We're always open to suggestions from players though.


<i>>Actually, non-staff users probably have no [[Spell Aiming|Aimed Spells]] skill (since they're not RuneStaffing, they don't care about cheap magical skills) and therefor...are probably using Really Big Weapons [2Hand or Pole Arms], which--given the training point costs--means that it will likely cost them precisely 0 DS to whip out a buffed RuneStaff to get the CS boost for their setup spell before switching back to the big stick to beat the critter to death with. -KRAKII</i>

Not likely, as you must be able to effectively wield a runestaff to activate the effect. At the minimum, this would require 8 magical ranks per level. (We understand that's possible for even some mutant builds, so the 8 ranks per level is just an estimate).


<i>>It sounds like a neat utility spell. There for when you need it, but not a "use on every hunt for every cast" sort of thing. -KRAKII</i>

If it's being used for every cast on a hunt, we'll probably make an update to prohibit such activity. However, I do think it'll be used on every hunt since the idea is that you're casting it when not hunting. I envision my cleric using up all the charges each hunt. If I know I'm on my last creature for a hunt, I'm going to burn the charges since I'll just recast the spell while resting.


<i>>Is the "trained for a staff" requirement going to be a minimum number of magic ranks, which will make it impossible for non-pures to use pre-cap, but will not stop weapon trained pures using it by swapping their weapon for a staff when they want to? -RATHBONER</i>

It'll require a certain number of magical ranks per level.


<i>>Sorry, this is what I dislike most about it. It really is only good for grizzleds and invasions. If you need it to hunt otherwise, you are doing it wrong. -Galenok</i>

Clerics certainly don't need the spell. It just makes things easier every once in a while. If we only made updates on the basis of need, the game would be rather static.

GameMaster Estild

===d50 roll===
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<i>>>A little bonus effect perhaps, but the 50+d50 roll is the major effect and I don't think that should be smite/bane.</i>

That's not the bonus for appropriate Smite/Bane alignment - that's only the WIS/3 to CS/AS part. The 50+d50 roll is always there, regardless of target.

GM Oscuro 

===Effect on multi-frame spells===
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<i>>Also, does mass attack spells like [[Censure (319)|319]] and divine fury get the bonuses for just 1 frame of the attack, or all frames? -KAZOKI</i>

It would probably just last 1 frame, but you could reactivate the effect in between frames.

GameMaster Estild

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<i>>>here's another question... what about the empath bolt/cs hybrid... does the buff only work for the initial bolt attack of [[Empathic Assault]]?</i>

Only the initial bolt. As Estild said, things that happen in waves will only get the buff for the first "wave," which in the case of Empathic Assault, is the bolt.


<i>>>just curious, because I think 309 would be a great spot for another spell of that nature if Clerics are going to have something like what you guys (GMs) are planning for 340.</i>

You guys are really jonesing for a bolt in 309, huh?

GameMaster Oscuro

===Armor failure===
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<i>>Say you CHANT {staff} and then get armor failure on the cast. Is the charge wasted? -Nick</i>

Nope.

GameMaster Estild
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==Runestaff requirement removal==
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After some additional discussion, we're going to amend the proposal to use symbols instead of runestaves. (We had discussed this a few days before Dgry's post...I think he may be a [[Savant]]).

We'll be doing a review to automatically update most scripted symbols, but we may also offer special merchants to convert ones that cannot be done automatically. Outside of that, we'll be updating the obelisks in the new Zul Logoth shrine to generate unlimited symbols, so that you may stock up and hand them out to your converts.

You'll only be able to grant the effect to symbols which match your deity and it's going to consume 2 [[spirit point]]s. If you're granting this buff while resting, as we mostly intend, then this additional cost is minor. Using it out in the field will require a bit more discretion. Lastly, we're increasing the base charges from 2 to 3.

<nowiki>*</nowiki>Empaths will receive the full bonus until we implement the [[Minor Mental]] circle, at which we'll be converting the [[Empath Base|1100s]] into a spirit/mental [[Hybrid profession|hybrid]] circle, thus only granting half the bonus.

GameMaster Estild

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<i>>>to grant a Spirit CS or bolt AS bonus equal to 5 + the cleric's (INF bonus / 2) ( ROUNDED UP or DOWN? )</i>

Down.

<i>>>It has base duration of 2 casts + 1 additional cast per (Spiritual Lore, Blessings skill / 50).</i>

We changed the base duration to 3 casts.

<i>>>(Not sure i'm understanding this part. so if im a bane cleric then this works better on living? and if im smite it works better on [[undead]]?)</i>

Yes.

<i>>>and this works for spirit spells only? so [[bard]]s and [[wizard]]s having no access to any spirit sphere spells will get no benefit from the spell?</i>

Only the CS portion is tied to spiritual spells. Just like other in-sphere CS boosts ([[425]], [[1612]], etc.), the full CS bonus is only granted to other spells in the spiritual Sphere ([[Minor Spiritual|MnS]], [[Major Spiritual|MjS]], [[Cleric Base|Cleric]], [[Ranger Base|Ranger]], [[Paladin Base|Paladin]] and for a little while longer, Empath) and half the bonus is granted to hybrid spheres ([[Sorcerer Base|Sorcerer]] and soon-to-be Empath). However, the bolt AS boost and die roll effect will affect other spheres of magic equally so any caster should benefit from Symbol of the Proselyte (340).

GameMaster Oscuro

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<i>I just peered at a Iasha white ora weapon, and my eyes misted over as I looked at this symbol of my deity. Came close to crying, I did. Though I'll assume symbols aren't always 'symbols'. -CAERLANRIG</i>

Only worn symbols will count.

GameMaster Estild

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Technically, any item can be designated as a holy symbol; it'll be a new property that can be added to any object. However, it's unlikely that you'll see it added to just anything. A holy symbol is a sign that represents your faith, not some mundane item.

GameMaster Estild
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==Arkati Requirement==
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<i>>>Does this mean that clerics converted to "other" won't be able to use this spell? Or am I missing something (which is very possible)?</i>

No, they can use it. They just need a symbol aligned to Other. If you have a holy symbol item already, there's a chance it will be auto-converted when the spell is released, otherwise, we will bring some merchants around to manually convert some symbols.

However, Clerics that have not chosen a god (or have CONVERT FORSAKEn the gods) will not be able to use Symbol of the Proselyte (340).

GameMaster Oscuro

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<i>Does the chanter have to have the same alignment as the symbol they are chanting to? e.g. is there any mechanical disadvantage to a Fash' sorc getting a Lumnis symbol from a Lumnis cleric and chanting to it or do they get the full bonus? -RATHBONER</i>

No, but they're going to be sharing the caster's faith by having to wear the symbol. :)


<i>How will it work for area effect web? Will it boost the hidden CS roll to entangle or not? -RATHBONER</i>

Yes.


<i>See how it goes perhaps, but I think you will probably have to come up with another limiting mechanism as well as the spirit drain. Outside of CoL I don't think it will be too difficult to maintain a sack of symbols. -RATHBONER</i>

The same restriction that we previously outlined for using different runestaves will apply to using different symbols. Meaning, once you active the effect from a specific symbol, you can't active the effect from a different symbol for ten minutes.

GameMaster Estild
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==Testing==
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}}Later tonight, I'll be deploying Symbol of the Proselyte (340) to the test instance. (I will post an update to this thread once it is ready.) While there, it is available for testing and feedback. Any bugs and feedback should be posted in this thread. Below is some information regarding the spell to help players know the intended mechanics:

Symbol of the Proselyte (340): Clerics are called upon to convert new followers to their flock and to punish the unrepentant. When cast upon a holy symbol that matches the caster's deity, the wielder of the symbol is able to receive a Spirit CS or bolt AS bonus equal to 5 + the caster's (INF bonus / 2) for the next few warding or bolt spells. It has base duration of 3 casts + 1 additional cast per (Spiritual Lore, Blessings skill / 50). If the target's spell is cast against an opposing alignment of the caster's deity (Bane/Smite) then there is an additional +CS/AS modifier equal to the caster's (WIS bonus / 3). In addition, when the attack is made, instead of adding a d100, it will use 50 + d50 (similar to the Truehand CMAN). To gain the benefit of this effect, the target should CHANT to the symbol, initiating the buff for the next cast (up to 30 seconds). It consumes 2 spirit points to cast this spell upon a symbol.

Notes:
* The spell is castable on others or specifically at objects. When cast at players (or with no target, to specify yourself), it will check the target's hands for the symbol.
* A holy symbol is a predefined object. Clerics and Paladins can generate unlimited number of these symbols at the Zul Logoth shrine. Old symbols (sold from various merchants) will automatically be converted to the new system if it can detect the deity of the symbol. This is usually done by matching the previous descriptions of old symbols or if the deity name is in the description and the object is a "symbol".
* If you have a symbol that does not automatically convert to work with the spell and you think it is a bug, please BUGITEM it. This will provide me with the exact details regarding the object so that I may investigate it fully.
* Clerics and Paladins can APPRAISE a symbol to determine which deity it is set to.
* Once the spell goes live, we'll be running a few merchant services to convert old symbols that could not be automatically converted.
* Holy symbols for this system can only be dedicated to a single deity. If the symbol is scripted and provides different messaging/effects based upon CONVERT status, it will not work (since the deity changes based upon the user's CONVERT status).
* Once a player activates the buff from a symbol, they cannot activate the buff from any other symbol for 10 minutes.
* The symbol must be worn before a player can CHANT to it to activate the buff.

Below is a preview of the spell:

First Person:
<pre{{log2}}>
>prep 340
You raise your hand while murmuring a soft orison, focusing on the Symbol of the Proselyte spell...
Your spell is ready.
>cast
You gesture.
You rest your hand atop your banded onyx key symbol. The edges of your hand go black, and from the core of the symbol shines a golden light. The effect is not unlike light through a keyhole.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>
>chant symbol
You chant a reverent orison and lightly clasp your banded onyx key symbol. A rush of divine power washes over you. Your symbol pulses once and you feel the eternal watchfulness of Lorminstra staring through your eyes.
>
>incant 201
You trace a sign while beseeching the spirits to empower you with the Calm spell...
Your spell is ready.
You gesture at a giant rat.
CS: +344 - TD: +3 + CvA: +25 + 50 + d50: +29 == +445
Warding failed!
A calm washes over a giant rat.
The divine power suffusing your actions wanes, leaving you bereft of Lorminstra's aid.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
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Third Person:
<pre{{log2}}>
Estild gestures.
Estild rests his hand atop his banded onyx key symbol. The edges of his hand go black, and from the core of the symbol shines a golden light. The effect is not unlike light through a keyhole.
>
Estild chants a reverent orison and lightly clasp his banded onyx key symbol. A rush of golden light flows out of his symbol, attaching itself to him like a second skin of infinite points of light.
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GameMaster Estild
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SWELLMAN
1 - The symbol does not grant the CS or AS bonus on the final charge held in the symbol, but you do get the +50 +50d roll, on the final charge.
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Fixed.
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SWELLMAN
2 - The bonus doesn't get applied to 319.
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This isn't intentionally. Due to how [[Divine Wrath (319)]] is setup, it'll require an update to account for this spell.
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3 - The 10 minute cool down was not in effect in the test instance.
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I think you're misunderstanding the 10 minute cooldown. The cooldown only applies to activating the buff from different symbols. Specifically, you can use all the charges from a single symbol in any amount of time. You can also cast 340 at any number of symbols in any amount of time. However, once a symbol is out of charges, you can't just get out another symbol to use. You can recast the spell at the original symbol (thus costing 40 mana and 2 spirit during a hunt) if you really wanted to though.
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Suggestions after using it?
1- Make it so that each CHANT lasts for several casts, rather than just one. Base of 1 cast, chance for more based off of lore, perhaps religion.
Or - Have it last a flat 30 seconds per CHANT.
2- Change the cool down from 10min per CHANT to 10min per Cast of 340.
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We're unlikely to implement the first idea, as the spell is not intended as a persistent effect. It's a quick boost for a single attack when you need it, similar to [[Spirit Strike (117)]]. As for your second idea, see my above paragraph about the cooldown.
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UNICORN3
Does this mean a cleric can cast at an infinite number of symbols in advance and have them stored up for future use?
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You can, but anytime you CHANT symbol to activate the buff, you're attuned to that particular symbol for 10 minutes and cannot activate the buff from another symbol during that time.
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UNICORN3
Do influence enhancives count for the purpose of raising the bonus?
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Yes.

Also, negative stat bonuses won't allow the base mod to go below 5 and the alignment mod to go below 0. (No negative CS/AS for using the spell).

GameMaster Estild

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<div {{Log}}>UNICORN3
This is pretty cool. Can you cast at the original symbol to refresh it if part of the charges have been used, but not all?
Does INF bonus/2 round up or truncate?
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You can refresh the number of charges (and combat modifiers) by casting again at the symbol at anytime.

It truncates for the combat modifiers.

GameMaster Estild

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<div {{Log}}>UNICORN3
Does this mean that if the caster is Bane aligned, the target will get a boost to casts against the undead?
Do wisdom enhancives count for this additional boost?
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It means if the casting Cleric is Bane aligned, the symbol wielder will get a bonus when casting against the living. Yes, wisdom enhancives will boost the alignment bonus.

GameMaster Estild 

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<div {{Log}}>WHITEDB10
I use a trident talisman won in a drawing on Mist harbor, is this useable or does it have to be a symbol?
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As Godefroy points out, casting Symbol of the Proselyte (340) at specific items will attempt to automatically convert them. Currently, this includes:

* Any item with the deity name in the article or adjective and has the noun of "symbol".
* Any off the shelf deity symbol sold at previous years' Ebon Gate.
* Brother Weatherby's symbols
* Symbols from the new Zul Logoth omni-shrine (from the Pilgrimage of Faith event) (I think we need to establish a more concise name for this location).
* Symbols from Intercession (325, T5) (technically, they're the same symbols from the Zul Logoth shrine).

Lastly, we will schedule a few events at varying times where a merchant will be available to manually convert items. It won't be a limited service; instead we'll run the merchant as often as necessary to ensure everyone gets a chance to get their existing symbols converted to work with the spell.

GameMaster Estild

==Spell Release==
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Symbol of the Proselyte (340) has now been released.

http://www.play.net/gs4/info/spells/spelllist.asp?circle=7#340
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Clerics are called upon to convert new followers to their flock and to punish the unrepentant. By using a portion of their spirit, a cleric is able to imbue a holy symbol with the blessing of their deity. The symbol can then be worn and activated via CHANT to provide a bonus to the user's next attack. The bonus is a modifier to Spirit Casting Strength or Bolt Attack Strength equal to 5 + (Influence bonus / 2). If the attack is made against a target of the cleric's deity's opposing alignment, an additional bonus of (Wisdom bonus / 3) is applied. In addition, when an attack is made, it will have a truehand effect which changes the standard attack d100 roll to 50 + d50. Symbols are able to hold a number of charges equal to 3 + (Spiritual Lore, Blessings skill / 50).

Clerics are able to create holy symbols of their deity at DragonSpine Fane, which can be reached via the Ancient Passage in Zul Logoth. These symbols can then be blessed and handed out in an attempt to convert new followers to the fold.

Casting this spell consumes two spirit points.

Once a symbol is activated, a user becomes attuned to it for ten minutes. This prevents them from using any other holy symbol for the same effect for that duration.
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A special thanks to GameMaster Itzel for her awesome work on the deity specific messaging!

Clerics, and Paladins, may APPRAISE a symbol to determine if it is a valid holy symbol. Casting 340 at a symbol will attempt to auto convert it. Every attempt was made to auto convert any old symbols, but a lot of unique symbols will be missed. So, in the next week or two, I'll be offering a merchant service (more than once) to manually convert any symbols to the new system. Check back to this thread for updates on that.

GameMaster Estild
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