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Let me know if you have any questions about this!
Let me know if you have any questions about this!

~ Haliste ~<br>
Auntie H, Forever

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| category = Paid Events: Adventures, Quests, and SimuCoins
| topic = Duskruin Arena
| messagenum = [http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Paid%20Events:%20Adventures,%20Quests,%20and%20SimuCoins/Duskruin%20Arena/view/13989 13989]
| author = GS4-HALISTE
| date = 10/14/2021
| subject = Bag of Holding Updates
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The Bag of Holding weight issues have been resolved. If you interact with the bag, it should update appropriately. The max encumbrance (carry capacity) of the bag is 200 pounds. This evaluation happens before the weightlessness of the item kicks in (which is how all containers function with weightlessness), so how you choose to use the bag is completely up to you. You can also have multiple bags, so you can handle item storage management based on type of item or weight of item or whatever.

I am still looking into some items that don't stack. I don't have any updates on those yet, but you should have noticed that ones that didn't stack before do a better job now of stacking. At least, they should. If they don't, let me know.


~ Haliste ~<br>
~ Haliste ~<br>

Latest revision as of 22:45, 19 January 2022

Category: Paid Events: Adventures, Quests, and SimuCoins
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 9188
Author: GS4-HALISTE
Date: 6/16/2018
Subject: The (new) Bag of Holding!

This collectible reward, a Bag of Holding, is the reward for finding the blood crystal at the Bank Heist! If you complete the base collectible (acquire 12 items from the bank's vault), you'll receive a minor version of this same script, but will be limited to 10 of 1 unique item.

>glance
You glance down to see a large treasure sack clasped by a blood diamond in your right hand and a blue crystal in your left hand.

>put crystal in my sack
You search through your sack and find another pocket containing a blue crystal. You place the items together.

>l in my sack
This treasure sack has multiple pockets and storage units sewn inside. Closer inspection of the pockets reveals the following contents:

(10) a blue crystal
(9) a golden wand
(1) a rat-shaped vial
(1) a long strip of floral printed cotton
(3) a small statue
(5) some pothinir grass
(4) a pair of vaalin buckles
(1) some leaf-embossed leathers

A pocket containing "a blue crystal" currently has your attention. PULL the sack if you want to remove a blue crystal, or TURN the sack to focus your attention on a different item.

>turn my sack
You rummage through your sack and focus your attention on a pocket containing "a golden wand".

>turn my sack
You rummage through your sack and focus your attention on a pocket containing "a rat-shaped vial".

>turn my sack
You rummage through your sack and focus your attention on a pocket containing "a long strip of floral printed cotton".

>turn my sack
You rummage through your sack and focus your attention on a pocket containing "a small statue".

>pull my sack
You reach into your sack and remove a small statue from its storage pocket.

>l in my sack
This treasure sack has multiple pockets and storage units sewn inside. Closer inspection of the pockets reveals the following contents:

(10) a blue crystal
(9) a golden wand
(1) a rat-shaped vial
(1) a long strip of floral printed cotton
(2) a small statue
(5) some pothinir grass
(4) a pair of vaalin buckles
(1) some leaf-embossed leathers

A pocket containing "a small statue" currently has your attention. PULL the sack if you want to remove a small statue, or TURN the sack to focus your attention on a different item.


>analyze my sack
You analyze your treasure sack and sense that the item is largely free from merchant alteration restrictions, but the creator has stated that "There do not seem to be any specific limitations."

The creator has also provided the following information:
This sack is a Bag of Holding (major) reward from the Bank Heist at Duskruin Arena. Items stored inside will count only as one item (the container). The current properties of this sack are as follows:

Unique Item Capacity: 10 items -- carrying 34 total items, 8 unique items
Per-Item Capacity: Up to 10 of the same item
Max Encum of Container: 50 pounds (currently carrying 45 pounds)
Weight Reduction: 0%

Despite any messages below, this item cannot be lightened or deepened.

USAGE: DROP/PUT, POKE, PULL (to remove focused item), PUSH, RAISE, RUB, TOUCH, TURN (to set focus on an item to remove).

Important Note: GET will not work with this container.

You get no sense of whether or not the sack may be further lightened.


While the initial treasure sack is held-only, you can speak to the ringleader and ask him about wearable.

Also during your adventures in the Sewers, you may find "expanders". These items will work with the epic Bag of Holding and can be used to upgrade its default limits as follows:

a material swatch - this will increase the unique item capacity, up to 100.
a slender wooden rod - this will increase the per-item capacity, up to 100.
a handful of sparkling dust - this will increase the max encumbrance of the container, up to 200.
a strand of veniom thread - this will provide weight reduction up to 100%.

There are some items that will not be able to be stored in these containers. For instance, cursed items, containers that have items inside, items with special scripts that specifically handle things like GET and PUT, Wavedancer Journals and/or other similar items, will all be ineligible for storage in this container.

In order for items to be stacked, they must be exactly the same.

These containers, both the base and epic versions, are not attuned. There is no limit to how many you can have. The containers will register as ONE item when you store it in your locker despite the number of items it is actually "holding".

Questions? Ask away!

~ Haliste ~
SGM, Events
Auntie H, Forever

Category: Paid Events: Adventures, Quests, and SimuCoins
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 9687
Author: GS4-HALISTE
Date: 7/13/2018
Subject: Bag of Holding updates

You can now store both 1) bag of holding expanders, and 2) Duskruin Bag of Holding collectible pieces inside the Bag of Holding. I also made a minor update to a specific situation that may or may not affect an item that was previously blocked. However...

If you find items that will not stack inside the bag, please post them on this thread. Let me know 1) what the item is, 2) where you received the item, and 3) the error message you receive when you try to place the item inside the bag. (Side note: I am aware of the gem-stacking issue; for now, the gem jars are the best option for gem storage.)

Just like the L/D notes, the restrictions are wide until I can evaluate whether or not allowing them will break something. And if not, I can add exclusions to allow them.

~ Haliste ~
SGM, Events
Auntie H, Forever

Category: Paid Events: Adventures, Quests, and SimuCoins
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 11906
Author: GS4-HALISTE
Date: 3/24/2020
Subject: Treasure Sacks and x/day items

A bug was recently identified that was allowing you to place these items (while on cooldown) into the treasure sack. This was not intended. They will no longer be eligible to be placed into these sacks unless they are not on a cooldown.

This will affect other items that have similar cooldown functionalities.

~ Haliste ~
SGM, Events
Auntie H, Forever

Category: Paid Events: Adventures, Quests, and SimuCoins
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 13859
Author: GS4-HALISTE
Date: 9/3/2021
Subject: Bag of Holding Update

The Bag of Holding has been updated — a few things to note about this, however.

There will still be items that will not be able to 1) go into the bag or 2) stack. The following is a list of items that will not be able to be stored in the BoH:

- magic items with different properties - ie: two blue crystals that don’t have the same number of charges, magic items with the same spells but that have different names, etc.
- foraged items that are found in different areas (bounty items, for example)
- complex items that contain a lot of customization (ie: Wavedancer Journals)
- cursed items
- containers with items inside
- any scripted item that has fancy handling for DROP/GET

The above limitations are not new - they have existed from the beginning, but I figured it would be good to reiterate those limitations.

While you can put gems inside the bag, it was never really intended to be a gem storage container like jars. This is still the case, so gems will not stack, currently. This could be updated, but it would be at the expense of the gem value as they would all change to the lowest possible value for that gem. So, my guess is that this would not be an attractive change for most. In addition, gems follow the same limitations as foraged items for bounties. If you are collecting gems for bounties, those will not stack even with the above mentioned value-change. (Which again, is NOT a current function in the script.)

There may be some items out there that are already stored in bags, and that may yell at you if you try to remove them. Should this happen, please ASSIST and we’ll get it fixed up so that you can remove it or we can pull it out of the bag (and fix the issue). Please note that I’m not saying this WILL happen, but am mentioning it here just in case, as I identified some problematic items.)

The biggest change to the BoH is that a couple behind-the-scenes limitations have been removed. These crept up a while back and caused many items to become unstackable. This doesn’t mean that everything will stack now, but many things that previously didn’t should hopefully stack once again.

If you have items that do not stack that you feel should, please post here or place an ASSIST so that I can look into the items to see where the issue may be.

Thank you all for your patience - I know it’s been a long wait!

~ Haliste ~
Auntie H, Forever

Category: Paid Events: Adventures, Quests, and SimuCoins
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 13888
Author: GS4-HALISTE
Date: 9/4/2021
Subject: Bag of Holding Update

Quick update -

1) You can use WHISPER to try and locate an item in your container, and set the focus to that item (if it finds it).

>whisper my sack find crystal
>You successfully rummage through a large treasure sack with a blood crystal clasp and locate a pocket containing "a blue crystal", which now holds the container's focus.

Note: If you have multiple rows of "crystal" descriptions, it will only find the first. More descriptors may pare down these results.

2) You can now TURN the container TO <#>, which will move the focus position to that number (instead of advancing one by one). If you LOOK in the contents, they're now numbered, and you can reference that number.

Let me know if you have any questions about this!

~ Haliste ~
Auntie H, Forever

Category: Paid Events: Adventures, Quests, and SimuCoins
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 13989
Author: GS4-HALISTE
Date: 10/14/2021
Subject: Bag of Holding Updates

The Bag of Holding weight issues have been resolved. If you interact with the bag, it should update appropriately. The max encumbrance (carry capacity) of the bag is 200 pounds. This evaluation happens before the weightlessness of the item kicks in (which is how all containers function with weightlessness), so how you choose to use the bag is completely up to you. You can also have multiple bags, so you can handle item storage management based on type of item or weight of item or whatever.

I am still looking into some items that don't stack. I don't have any updates on those yet, but you should have noticed that ones that didn't stack before do a better job now of stacking. At least, they should. If they don't, let me know.

~ Haliste ~
Auntie H, Forever