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Magister Raelee has requested that the Hall of Mages provide any available information on the language, but in the mean time, we have plenty of Ithzir speech, and its context, to get started.
Magister Raelee has requested that the Hall of Mages provide any available information on the language, but in the mean time, we have plenty of Ithzir speech, and its context, to get started.

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}}==Part 2, Early Findings==
Unlike trollish, Ithzir does NOT appear to be a rote mutation of Common. That is, it does make make sense in common when reserved, or when mutating word boundaries, or when shifted some number of letters forwards or backwards with the Common alphabet. Rather, it appears to have its own rich vocabulary, like Tehir and Aelotoian.

Ithzir words very much look like words to those versed in common, though. That is, the distribution of vowel and consonant sounds is quite similar to Common. Ithzir contains words we transcribe as "Maktath" and "hamma" rather than, say, "aeiobtttt."

From the distinct sentences we have heard, we have 208 words to work with, 111 of them unique. The most common words, in order, are te, eif, maktath, ptath, ka, cra, jamma, dro, maktali, and klaloc. In addition to the words themselves, we have a great deal of context.

For example: I once witnessed An Ithzir initiate bow her head and places her hands over an Ithzir janissary, and though the initiate's lips did not move, I heard a single word spoken clearly and forcefully: "Koh!" A pale nimbus encircled the fallen janissary, then faded into the corpse. The Ithzir janissary awakened looking confused and somewhat drained!

From this, I feel I can narrow down the meaning of "Koh" to a list of likely candidates: Live, Rise, Breath, Fight On, etc. It is possible that our subjective understanding of the world is so different than theirs that "Koh" is an idiom, literally translated to "shave the pigeon", but I would assume it less likely than the more straightforward hypotheses above.

Based on context, Ithzir appears to match the tones inherent in Common for forming statements, exclamations, and questions. From that, we can build hypotheses that some subset of Han, Hor, Hamme, Oru, Wafi, Letti, and Dro map to question words in Common - who, what, when, where, why, and how.

I suspect Ithzir has fully-formed (perhaps even consistent) tenses or other word modifiers, like intensifiers or diminuatives. Witness: The Ithzir seer, before dying, chuckled wryly and said, "Letta, Leth, Latoth..." These words appear to be related, and the seer uttering them was perhaps sardonically amused in part by the verbal progression of that relationship.

I will continue to post hypotheses as I generate them, and encourage others to do the same. Hopefully word will come from the Hall soon, to greatly illuminate these studies.

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Category: Towns
Topic: Wehnimer's Landing
Message #: 8728
Author: GOAT
Date: 04/06/2016 01:48 AM PDT
Subject: On Ithzir Language

A Treatise by Goat

Part 1, Background

As many will remember, the images of one dozen Ithzir appeared before us when Aralyte performed her ritual to destroy Althedeus. She spoke their language, and they appeared to assist, or at least look on without hostility, during her ritual. Of course, this contrasts with the behavior of Ithzir in Old Ta'Faendryl, who have been universally hostile to adventurers in the area (who, of course, have behaved in kind).

Recent events have brought us back in contact with beings who speak the same language spoken by the Old Ta'Faendryl Ithzir, and share their metallic-sounding timbre. Melgorehn's reach has been active again as of late. Aurach, while visiting the moon chamber with others, has heard a few words from two different parties - one in Ithzir and another in Tehiri. A metallic, hollow voice whispered from the darkness, "Te klaloc lethi ram lette. Kol Tar'sken." Another voice whispered within the darkness, "Tiu zom rome. Iebri lovib keke. In-gtomtei huieb. Fizum mu teur."

We are currently unable to translate the metallic speech, but it clearly matches previous utterances by seers in the old city… and something Glethad once muttered. By contrast, we have a solid, if not exact, idea of the Tehiri: "Hello, (from?) sunny land. I am the master of blood. Let's trade power. Witness the heavens."

Grishom Stone has identified himself as the master of blood in past visions. Many of us hypothesize that we witnessed an introduction between Stone and the Ithzir, yet we cannot discern the Ithzir's motives. This is clearly alarming.

Tonight, Kayse and Lasindriel heard voices in their heads. Kayse heard one word in Aelotoian - "Zrissantha" - which means, roughly, "Traitor." Then they each heard "Dro meph ti un'ka til laner?" This question was also in the Ithzir language, similar to a janissary uttering ""Dro, meph ti mudrona ptatha ratanama."

It seems clear that the fate of Elanthia and the Ithzir are intertwined. If we understand their language, we might find a means to prevent them from aligning with our enemies, or even convince them to align with us. We might find a way to reach Aralyte, who we last saw lost in the Shadow Realm. Failing any of that, we might at least overhear and understand the Ithzir's motives and intentions.

To be clear, I have no special training in language - I hardly understand my apparently-native tongue of Rhoska Tor. While I have some experience with extraplanar beings, my main qualification is a willingness to try. I welcome all others to join me in this effort. Copies of all known Ithzir speech are available in each town's library; ask your librarian for a tome titled "Ithzir family creatures." Perhaps our combined insights can crack this mystery.

Magister Raelee has requested that the Hall of Mages provide any available information on the language, but in the mean time, we have plenty of Ithzir speech, and its context, to get started.

Category: Towns
Topic: Wehnimer's Landing
Message #: 8729
Author: GOAT
Date: 04/06/2016 01:51 AM PDT
Subject: On Ithzir Language

Part 2, Early Findings

Unlike trollish, Ithzir does NOT appear to be a rote mutation of Common. That is, it does make make sense in common when reserved, or when mutating word boundaries, or when shifted some number of letters forwards or backwards with the Common alphabet. Rather, it appears to have its own rich vocabulary, like Tehir and Aelotoian.

Ithzir words very much look like words to those versed in common, though. That is, the distribution of vowel and consonant sounds is quite similar to Common. Ithzir contains words we transcribe as "Maktath" and "hamma" rather than, say, "aeiobtttt."

From the distinct sentences we have heard, we have 208 words to work with, 111 of them unique. The most common words, in order, are te, eif, maktath, ptath, ka, cra, jamma, dro, maktali, and klaloc. In addition to the words themselves, we have a great deal of context.

For example: I once witnessed An Ithzir initiate bow her head and places her hands over an Ithzir janissary, and though the initiate's lips did not move, I heard a single word spoken clearly and forcefully: "Koh!" A pale nimbus encircled the fallen janissary, then faded into the corpse. The Ithzir janissary awakened looking confused and somewhat drained!

From this, I feel I can narrow down the meaning of "Koh" to a list of likely candidates: Live, Rise, Breath, Fight On, etc. It is possible that our subjective understanding of the world is so different than theirs that "Koh" is an idiom, literally translated to "shave the pigeon", but I would assume it less likely than the more straightforward hypotheses above.

Based on context, Ithzir appears to match the tones inherent in Common for forming statements, exclamations, and questions. From that, we can build hypotheses that some subset of Han, Hor, Hamme, Oru, Wafi, Letti, and Dro map to question words in Common - who, what, when, where, why, and how.

I suspect Ithzir has fully-formed (perhaps even consistent) tenses or other word modifiers, like intensifiers or diminuatives. Witness: The Ithzir seer, before dying, chuckled wryly and said, "Letta, Leth, Latoth..." These words appear to be related, and the seer uttering them was perhaps sardonically amused in part by the verbal progression of that relationship.

I will continue to post hypotheses as I generate them, and encourage others to do the same. Hopefully word will come from the Hall soon, to greatly illuminate these studies.