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{{player-guide
|title = Combat Maneuver Choices
|topic = Combat Maneuvers, Training
|author = Leafiara
|author-displayed = Leafiara
|date = 2021-07-11
|updated = 2023-08-07
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=Preamble=
=Preamble=


After testing [[Player_System_Manager_-_Phase_3|Phase 3 of the Player System Manager]] for five weeks, I figured that I'd experienced enough to settle on plans for which [[Combat Maneuvers|combat maneuvers]] I'd learn on each of my characters when the changes went live. Below is my thought process for each one in case others find it helpful!
This page mostly assesses [[Combat Maneuvers|combat maneuvers]] from the perspective of post-cap characters, but even while leveling, there are often insights to be found from reading others' thought processes. Below is my process in case others find it helpful!


=Bard=
=Bard=


'''Last updated 11/11/21'''
'''Last updated August 7, 2023'''


Skill Mnemonic Ranks Category Subcategory
Skill Mnemonic Ranks Type Category Subcategory
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Cheapshots cheapshots 5/5 Rogue Guild
Cheapshots cheapshots 5/5 Setup Rogue Guild
Combat Focus focus 5/5
Combat Focus focus 3/5 Passive
Combat Movement cmovement 2/5
Combat Movement cmovement 2/5 Passive
Dirtkick dirtkick 3/5
Dirtkick dirtkick 3/5 Setup
Eyepoke eyepoke 5/5 Rogue Guild
Eyepoke eyepoke 5/5 Setup Rogue Guild
Feint feint 4/5 Warrior Guild
Feint feint 4/5 Setup Warrior Guild
Footstomp footstomp 5/5 Rogue Guild
Footstomp footstomp 5/5 Setup Rogue Guild
Groin Kick gkick 3/5
Groin Kick gkick 3/5 Setup
Hamstring hamstring 5/5
Hamstring hamstring 5/5 Setup
Kneebash kneebash 5/5 Rogue Guild
Kneebash kneebash 5/5 Setup Rogue Guild
Nosetweak nosetweak 5/5 Rogue Guild
Nosetweak nosetweak 5/5 Setup Rogue Guild
Side by Side sidebyside 5/5
Side by Side sidebyside 5/5 Passive
Sweep sweep 5/5 Rogue Guild
Sweep sweep 5/5 Setup Rogue Guild
Swiftkick swiftkick 5/5 Rogue Guild
Swiftkick swiftkick 5/5 Setup Rogue Guild
Templeshot templeshot 5/5 Rogue Guild
Templeshot templeshot 5/5 Setup Rogue Guild
Throatchop throatchop 5/5 Rogue Guild
Throatchop throatchop 5/5 Setup Rogue Guild
True Strike truestrike 1/5
True Strike truestrike 4/5 Attack
Available Combat Maneuvers Points: 1
Available Combat Maneuvers Points: 1



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==Context==
==Context==


My bard uses a lance in most settings, but dual short swords in the Hinterwilds. She has fully trained 2x spells and wears robes.
My bard uses a lance in most settings, but dual short swords in the Hinterwilds, and she might train for katars in the future. She has fully trained 2x spells and wears robes.


==Explanation==
==Explanation==
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* '''Side by Side''': Staple booster for AS and DS in groups.
* '''Side by Side''': Staple booster for AS and DS in groups.
* '''Sweep''': The other arguable best offensive combat maneuver. Applying Vulnerable is among the best status effects you could hope for and Staggered probably ''is'' the single best status effect.
* '''Sweep''': The other arguable best offensive combat maneuver. Applying Vulnerable is among the best status effects you could hope for and Staggered probably ''is'' the single best status effect.
* '''True Strike''': Fluff because nothing else seemed better with only 3 points remaining. I used to have more ranks because I expected the EBP reduction to help with hitting overleveled enemies in Ascension grounds, but the Hinterwilds quickly proved that Hamstring and Sweep are the better openers in that situation by a long shot.
* '''True Strike''': My thought here is that the EBP reduction can really help with hitting overleveled creatures in Ascension grounds or turtling creatures anywhere, but the Hinterwilds have pretty well proven that Hamstring and Sweep are the best melee-based openers in those situations. Assault techniques are almost always a better followup than True Strike, but it's a reasonable option when they're on cooldown.


==Additional Considerations==
==Additional Considerations==


I originally had one rank of Precision on her list since it can provide extra versatility for situations where one damage type is more useful than others and it's hard to find much more value for four points. That said, lances and arguably even short swords don't care that much about damage type, so I've left it off for now. If I want it back in the future, the points will probably come from Dirtkick or Groin Kick.
I originally had one rank of Precision on her list since it can provide extra versatility for situations where one damage type is more useful than others and it's hard to find much more value for four points. That said, lances and arguably even short swords and katars don't care that much about damage type, so I've left it off for now. If I want it back in the future, the points will probably come from Groin Kick.


Taking Spin Attack is an option, but I feel that even True Strike outweighs it, never mind the other available maneuvers and weapon techniques. Vault Kick is the sort of maneuver I want to like thematically, but I tried and it never delivered for me.
Taking Spin Attack is an option, but I feel that True Strike outweighs it, never mind the other available maneuvers and weapon techniques. Vault Kick is the sort of maneuver I want to like thematically, but I tried and it never delivered for me.


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=Cleric=
=Cleric=


'''Last updated August 7, 2023'''
Skill Mnemonic Ranks Category Subcategory

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Combat Movement cmovement 2/5
Skill Mnemonic Ranks Type Category Subcategory
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Dirtkick dirtkick 2/5
Feint feint 5/5 Warrior Guild
Combat Movement cmovement 2/5 Passive
Groin Kick gkick 5/5
Dirtkick dirtkick 2/5 Setup
Side by Side sidebyside 5/5
Feint feint 5/5 Setup Warrior Guild
Groin Kick gkick 5/5 Setup
Side by Side sidebyside 5/5 Passive


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=Empath=
=Empath=


'''Last updated August 7, 2023'''
Skill Mnemonic Ranks Category Subcategory

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Combat Movement cmovement 2/5
Skill Mnemonic Ranks Type Category Subcategory
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Cunning Defense cdefense 5/5
Dirtkick dirtkick 3/5
Combat Movement cmovement 2/5 Passive
Feint feint 5/5 Warrior Guild
Cunning Defense cdefense 5/5 Passive
Groin Kick gkick 1/5
Dirtkick dirtkick 3/5 Setup
Side by Side sidebyside 5/5
Feint feint 5/5 Setup Warrior Guild
Groin Kick gkick 1/5 Setup
Side by Side sidebyside 5/5 Passive
Available Combat Maneuver Points: 2
Trip trip 1/5 Setup


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* '''Groin Kick''': Another pick just for fun and because spare points were there. Like clerics, empaths can't inflict RT on enemies without this or Feint; unlike clerics, however, empaths would never have a need to do that since almost nothing is immune to Sympathy.
* '''Groin Kick''': Another pick just for fun and because spare points were there. Like clerics, empaths can't inflict RT on enemies without this or Feint; unlike clerics, however, empaths would never have a need to do that since almost nothing is immune to Sympathy.
* '''Side by Side''': Staple booster for AS and DS in groups.
* '''Side by Side''': Staple booster for AS and DS in groups.
* '''Trip''': Two points remained and had to go somewhere.


==Additional Considerations==
==Additional Considerations==
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=Monk=
=Monk=


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Skill Mnemonic Ranks Category Subcategory
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Burst of Swiftness burst 3/5
Combat Focus focus 3/5
Combat Mobility mobility 1/1
Combat Movement cmovement 2/5
Coup de Grace coupdegrace 5/5
Evade Specialization evadespec 3/3
Ki Focus kifocus 3/3
Kick Specialization kickspec 5/5
Rolling Krynch Stance krynch 3/3
Side by Side sidebyside 5/5
Surge of Strength surge 3/5


Skill Mnemonic Ranks Type Category Subcategory
Available Combat Maneuvers Points: 1
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Burst of Swiftness burst 5/5 Buff
Combat Focus focus 2/5 Passive
Combat Mobility mobility 1/1 Passive
Combat Movement cmovement 2/5 Passive
Coup de Grace coupdegrace 5/5 Attack
Evade Specialization evadespec 3/3 Passive
Ki Focus kifocus 3/3 Buff
Kick Specialization kickspec 5/5 Passive
Rolling Krynch Stanc krynch 3/3 Martial Stance
Side by Side sidebyside 5/5 Passive
Available Combat Maneuvers Points: 1


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==Context==
==Context==


My monk is primarily a brawler with a conventional build, but is learning to use dual katars for the sake of having more AoE weapon techniques available.
My monk is primarily a brawler with a conventional build, but can also use dual katars for the sake of having more AoE weapon techniques available against creatures with particularly low DS.


==Explanation==
==Explanation==
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The short of it is that Spin Kick with max Kick Specialization is by far the strongest single-target reaction technique and can often pick off enemies one by one more quickly than anything else you could be doing.
The short of it is that Spin Kick with max Kick Specialization is by far the strongest single-target reaction technique and can often pick off enemies one by one more quickly than anything else you could be doing.


* '''Burst of Swiftness''': My monk is an elf, so having Perfect Self and maxed Burst of Swiftness in conjunction with ten Ascension ranks each of Agility and Dexterity puts her just over the highest Agidex threshold and really makes assault techniques or even mstrikes shine. Burst of Swiftness also has various other benefits like adding additional weighting, increasing Major Bleed damage from Slashing Strikes, slightly increasing evasion rate, and slightly increasing UAF.
* '''Burst of Swiftness''': Strengthens the Major Bleed damage from Slashing Strikes. Also has other benefits like slightly increasing evasion rate or slightly reducing RT and slightly increasing UAF when using kick-heavy Fury or kick-heavy mstrikes, but I think those are very secondary to the Slashing Strikes benefit.
* '''Combat Focus''': Virtually a gimme for a monk, whose main weakness is TD.
* '''Combat Focus''': Virtually a gimme for a monk, whose main weakness is TD.
* '''Combat Mobility''': Before PSM3, I considered this very solid for monks, but not a must-have since they're great at avoiding attacks even while prone. Now I consider it a must-have on a Spin Kick build since they need to be standing to use it.
* '''Combat Mobility''': Before PSM3, I considered this very solid for monks, but not a must-have since they're great at avoiding attacks even while prone. Now I consider it a must-have on a Spin Kick build since they need to be standing to use it.
* '''Combat Movement''': Mandatory prerequisite to Side by Side, but nearly useless on its own.
* '''Combat Movement''': Mandatory prerequisite to Side by Side, but nearly useless on its own.
* '''Coup de Grace''': I'm not willing to forego Vertigo to have Martial Mastery, which means monk AS isn't great. Coup serves a dual purpose of raising AS and finishing off enemies that fell short of being killed, which should happen fairly often when attacking with katars or AoE. For the other squares, I think two or three ranks are fine, but because of monks' diminished AS, I want a full five ranks to keep this active as frequently as possible.
* '''Coup de Grace''': I'm not willing to forego Vertigo to have Martial Mastery, which means monk AS isn't great. Coup serves a dual purpose of raising AS and finishing off enemies that fell short of being killed, which isn't too uncommon when attacking with katars or AoE. For the other squares, I think two or three ranks are fine, but because of monks' comparatively lower AS, I like a full five ranks to keep this active as frequently as possible.
* '''Evade Specialization''': Half of the linchpin of the Spin Kick build since you get an additional 10% chance to dodge and react.
* '''Evade Specialization''': Half of the linchpin of the Spin Kick build since you get an additional 10% chance to dodge and react.
* '''Ki Focus''': With enough lore investment (for Mind Over Body), Physical Fitness, and potentially Stamina Regeneration from Ascension, you can use this near constantly.
* '''Ki Focus''': With enough lore investment (for Mind Over Body), Physical Fitness, and potentially Stamina Regeneration from Ascension, you can use this near constantly.
* '''Kick Specialization'''': The other half of the linchpin of Spin Kick builds. What's even better than obliterating enemies in five seconds, which monks do with focused mstrikes, is obliterating them in two seconds, which monks do with five ranks of Kick Specialization.
* '''Kick Specialization'''': The other half of the linchpin of Spin Kick builds. There aren't many better feelings in the game than being stuck in RT lock from Elemental Wave or similar effects, but then standing up with Combat Mobility and kicking everything to death before the RT ends.
* '''Rolling Krynch Stance''': A staple of unarmed combat, especially if you don't mind fighting multiple creatures at once.
* '''Rolling Krynch Stance''': What used to be a staple is more niche ''if'' the monk has an alternative weapon style trained. Since mstrikes lock out weapon techniques, it's a matter of picking one or the other and I almost always side with weapon techniques. That said, unarmed combat is drastically more viable than AS-based attacks against heavily turtled enemies with Wall of Force up, so it has its place.
* '''Side by Side''': Staple booster for AS and DS in groups. The AS is really helpful for monks who use weapons but don't have Martial Mastery, since they otherwise fall way short of other squares (and paladins).
* '''Side by Side''': Staple booster for AS and DS in groups. The AS is really helpful for monks who use weapons but don't have Martial Mastery, since they otherwise fall way short of other squares (and paladins).
* '''Surge of Strength''': Additional AS for a weapon-wielding build for when Side by Side and Coup de Grace aren't enough. The stamina cost is less severe for monks than others due to Mind Over Body.


==Additional Considerations==
==Additional Considerations==


I had Hamstring at one point. While I do believe it just might be the best combat maneuver in the game, I also believe it needs to go all in with five ranks to outshine alternatives like Twin Hammerfists to the degree it should. If I ever want it back, Coup de Grace is probably what will go, but Coup is pretty exceptional in its own right in the hands of a monk. They actually fill sort of similar roles, but in reverse: either lead off with Hamstring to get a ton of bleed damage going before letting UAC finish the job or lead off with UAC to get in the initial damage before letting Coup finish the job.
There's a strong case to be made for Slippery Mind to have better defense against warding attacks. I usually prefer stronger offense, but my monk and her project weapons are still too far off from me being able to judge whether Rolling Krynch with unarmed combat is or isn't stronger than double katars. If katars win out, then Slippery Mind it'll be.


Ultimately, monks are the only profession where I lean toward Coup (given a choice between the two) because of UAC being so capable of inflicting disablers while simultaneously dealing hard hits. It also helps that Coup works on undead while Hamstring doesn't.
There's also a case to be made for Duck and Weave for its synergy with Evade Specialization, but I think Rolling Krynch usually wins out there--though it depends on the area. It works best in places where the enemies are hard hitting yet squishy.


I also had Surge of Strength at one point since it can shore up AS, but I eventually decided that monks without Martial Mastery should only use weapons against creatures that naturally have low DS in the first place.
There's a question of why my monk has Combat Focus instead of training any of her disabling options--Headbutt, Sweep, Cheapshots--in an attempt to stop enemies from casting at all. I don't think it's reasonable to assume you can hit first 100% of the time, but even if you could, I'd say you can accomplish the goal of stopping them with weapon techniques alone.

There's a case to be made for Slippery Mind to have better defense against warding attacks, but as more and more overleveled Ascension creatures get released, Rolling Krynch's flat chance to preserve higher tiers of unarmed combat only gets progressively more valuable. Of course, the same could be said for Slippery Mind, but not every creature uses magic.

There's a case to be made for Duck and Weave for its synergy with Evade Specialization, but it's very dependent on the area. It works best in places where the enemies are hard hitting yet squishy.

There's a question of why my monk has Combat Focus instead of training any of her disabling options--Headbutt, Sweep, Cheapshots--in an attempt to stop enemies from casting at all. I don't think it's reasonable to assume you can hit first 100% of the time, but even if you could, I'd say you can accomplish the goal with Twin Hammerfists and don't need to spend valuable CM points on it.


A Martial Mastery monk who primarily battles with edged, blunt, or two-handed weapons is the use case for taking Parry Specialization over Evade Specialization, since their reaction techniques trigger from parries, but at that point you also need to take two ranks of Stance Perfection to prioritize parrying over evading. I don't like the point sink.
A Martial Mastery monk who primarily battles with edged, blunt, or two-handed weapons is the use case for taking Parry Specialization over Evade Specialization, since their reaction techniques trigger from parries, but at that point you also need to take two ranks of Stance Perfection to prioritize parrying over evading. I don't like the point sink.
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=Paladin=
=Paladin=


'''Last updated August 7, 2023'''
Skill Mnemonic Ranks Category Subcategory

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Combat Focus focus 5/5
Skill Mnemonic Ranks Type Category Subcategory
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Combat Movement cmovement 2/5
Combat Toughness toughness 1/3
Combat Focus focus 5/5 Passive
Feint feint 5/5 Warrior Guild
Combat Movement cmovement 2/5 Passive
Precision precision 2/2
Combat Toughness toughness 1/3 Passive
Side by Side sidebyside 5/5
Feint feint 5/5 Setup Warrior Guild
Spin Attack sattack 5/5 Warrior Guild
Side by Side sidebyside 5/5 Passive
Surge of Strength surge 5/5
Spin Attack sattack 4/5 Attack Warrior Guild
Weapon Specialization wspec 5/5
Surge of Strength surge 5/5 Buff
True Strike truestrike 4/5 Attack
Weapon Specializatio wspec 5/5 Passive
Available Combat Maneuvers Points: 1
Available Combat Maneuvers Points: 1


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==Context==
==Context==


My paladin uses two war hammers as her primary weapons and is now training to use two broadswords as backup to keep a rotation of weapon techniques going, along with having fully trained 2x spells. She also wears metal breastplate instead of full plate.
My paladin uses two war hammers as her primary weapons, has fully trained 2x spells, and wears metal breastplate instead of full plate.


==Explanation==
==Explanation==


One "problem" with paladins is that they can reach overwhelming enough AS and CS advantages over enemy DS and TD that they don't need setups. Despite having many combat maneuver options, a number of them are redundant in light of either weapon techniques, their spells, or both, so I gravitated toward passive abilities.
One "problem" with paladins is that they can reach overwhelming enough AS and CS advantages over enemy DS and TD that they don't need setups outside of really high end areas. Despite having many combat maneuver options, a number of them are redundant in light of either weapon techniques, their spells, or both, so I gravitated toward passive abilities.


* '''Combat Focus''': Pushing paladins' very solid combination of TD and CvA even higher.
* '''Combat Focus''': Pushing paladins' very solid combination of TD and CvA even higher.
* '''Combat Movement''': Mandatory prerequisite to Side by Side. Very slightly less useless for a two weapon paladin than it is for every other profession, since their DS isn't exceptional, but I'd rather just keep up Wall of Force.
* '''Combat Movement''': Mandatory prerequisite to Side by Side. Very slightly less useless for a two weapon paladin than it is for other professions and builds since their DS isn't exceptional.
* '''Combat Toughness''': The first rank is a very solid +15 health for its cost and can help against getting slowly poked to death.
* '''Combat Toughness''': The first rank is a very solid +15 health for its cost and can help against getting slowly poked to death.
* '''Feint''': Staple setup maneuver for most professions... but eventually it's not necessary to paladins offensively, as Aura of the Arkati does its job better. Still extraordinarily valuable defensively to avoid RT lock, though.
* '''Feint''': Staple setup maneuver for most professions... but eventually it's not necessary to paladins offensively, as Aura of the Arkati does its job better. Still extraordinarily valuable defensively to avoid RT lock, though.
* '''Precision''': Very useful when using war hammers--or morning stars, for that matter. I prefer war hammers since I'd much rather trade 0.025 DF for -1 RT on assault techniques than the other way around. (That's true in general, but especially true on a paladin due to high AS, Arm of the Arkati, and more flares from Holy Weapon and/or Fervor encouraging more swings per minute.)
* '''Precision''': Very useful when using war hammers--or morning stars, for that matter. I prefer war hammers since I'd much rather trade 0.025 DF for -1 RT on assault techniques than the other way around. (That's true in general, but especially true on a paladin due to high AS, Arm of the Arkati, and more flares from Holy Weapon and/or Fervor encouraging more swings per minute.)
* '''Side by Side''': Staple booster for AS and DS in groups. Overkill AS.
* '''Side by Side''': Staple booster for AS and DS in groups. Overkill AS.
* '''Spin Attack''': Dinaden and others alerted me to the incredible value here. Basically, anything that adds another 3-seconds-or-less option to the paladin toolkit is extraordinarily welcome. I'll say more about this in notes.
* '''Spin Attack''': Dinaden and others alerted me to the incredible value here. Basically, anything that adds another 2-seconds-or-less option to the paladin toolkit is welcome. I'll say more about this in notes.
* '''Surge of Strength''': Even more overkill AS that also serves the purpose of buffing Concussive Blows.
* '''Surge of Strength''': Even more overkill AS that also serves the purpose of buffing Concussive Blows.
* '''True Strike''': Mostly a forward-thinking choice that looks to continue hitting overleveled creatures in Ascension grounds or even the later rounds of Duskruin Arena. Even looking at it in the context of normal creatures, though, rank 4 True Strike is on average +25 to your endrolls.
* '''Weapon Specialization''': Still more overkill AS.
* '''Weapon Specialization''': Still more overkill AS.


==Additional Considerations==
==Additional Considerations==

I initially took True Strike over Spin Attack before others told me just how strong Spin Attack was. I still think True Strike is a very forward-thinking choice; I don't see it as especially useful in the current game as it competes with weapon techniques for stamina usage, but the world of hitting overleveled enemies in Ascension grounds or just while leveling is a different story. I might still find a way to fit it into her maneuvers if I end up liking Ascension ground.

I tinkered with the numbers to consider dropping some number of ranks between Combat Toughness and True Strike to take Groin Kick for defense against bandits, but just couldn't talk myself into it. Paladins have perfectly good maneuver defense, especially one like mine who's not in full plate, so I was only concerned with avoiding Feint since a wider variety of enemies use it.


Training Stance Perfection to move parrying ahead of evasion in the combat order of operations is something to consider for any build with blunt, edged, or two-handed weapons trained. That said, paladins have neither Parry Specialization nor the Combat Mastery feat, so their opportunities for Clobber, Riposte, or Reverse Strike will only be a third as common as warriors'.
Training Stance Perfection to move parrying ahead of evasion in the combat order of operations is something to consider for any build with blunt, edged, or two-handed weapons trained. That said, paladins have neither Parry Specialization nor the Combat Mastery feat, so their opportunities for Clobber, Riposte, or Reverse Strike will only be a third as common as warriors'.
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I don't see any of those reasons applying to paladins, though. Area of effect and assault weapon techniques are better uses of stamina, but have cooldowns. Divine Incarnation Smite is a better use of RT, but only has limited uses in a ten-minute window. Judgment is arguably a better use of RT, but only given a sufficient number of enemies--and, even then, still likely only in a context where the paladin's area of effect technique is on cooldown.
I don't see any of those reasons applying to paladins, though. Area of effect and assault weapon techniques are better uses of stamina, but have cooldowns. Divine Incarnation Smite is a better use of RT, but only has limited uses in a ten-minute window. Judgment is arguably a better use of RT, but only given a sufficient number of enemies--and, even then, still likely only in a context where the paladin's area of effect technique is on cooldown.


So the real question is Spin Attack against True Strike. Obviously my answer is that both have their place, which is why my paladin has 4 ranks of each. Spin Attack should generally be the better option since it's a second faster--indeed, it's the fastest attack in her repertoire--but True Strike wins against creatures that are especially difficult to hit.
The bottom line is that a paladin can rotate between Spin Attack, Divine Incarnation Smite, Judgment, and assault techniques for pretty sustainable three-RT-or-less attacks throughout a hunt.

(Each does come with a caveat, though. Spin Attack needs to be backed by an infused spell in a bonded weapon to compensate for the lack of aiming. Smite needs to be backed by heavy training in Religion lore for power and/or Spiritual Mana Control for number of uses. Judgment needs to be backed by heavy Paladin Base ranks. Assault techniques need to be backed by Multi Opponent Combat ''and'' Combat Maneuvers.)


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=Ranger=
=Ranger=


'''Last updated 11/11/21'''
'''Last updated August 7, 2023'''


Skill Mnemonic Ranks Category Subcategory
Skill Mnemonic Ranks Type Category Subcategory
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Combat Focus focus 5/5
Combat Focus focus 5/5 Passive
Combat Movement cmovement 2/5
Combat Movement cmovement 2/5 Passive
Dirtkick dirtkick 4/5
Dirtkick dirtkick 4/5 Setup
Disarm Weapon disarm 1/5 Warrior Guild
Feint feint 5/5 Setup Warrior Guild
Feint feint 5/5 Warrior Guild
Groin Kick gkick 4/5 Setup
Groin Kick gkick 4/5
Hamstring hamstring 3/5 Setup
Hamstring hamstring 3/5
Shield Bash sbash 3/5 Setup
Shield Bash sbash 3/5
Side by Side sidebyside 5/5 Passive
Side by Side sidebyside 5/5
Sweep sweep 5/5 Setup Rogue Guild
Sweep sweep 5/5 Rogue Guild
Trip trip 3/5 Setup
Trip trip 3/5
Available Combat Maneuvers Points: 1
Available Combat Maneuvers Points: 1
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=Rogue=
=Rogue=

'''Last updated August 7, 2023'''


==Option 1: Open Combat With Dual Katars==
==Option 1: Open Combat With Dual Katars==


Skill Mnemonic Ranks Category Subcategory
Skill Mnemonic Ranks Type Category Subcategory
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Cheapshots cheapshots 6/6 Rogue Guild
Cheapshots cheapshots 6/6 Setup Rogue Guild
Combat Focus focus 3/5
Combat Focus focus 3/5 Passive
Combat Mobility mobility 1/1
Combat Mobility mobility 1/1 Passive
Combat Movement cmovement 2/5
Combat Movement cmovement 2/5 Passive
Coup de Grace coupdegrace 4/5
Coup de Grace coupdegrace 4/5 Attack
Dirtkick dirtkick 1/5
Divert divert 6/6 Setup Rogue Guild
Divert divert 6/6 Rogue Guild
Evade Specialization evadespec 3/3 Passive
Evade Specialization evadespec 3/3
Eyepoke eyepoke 6/6 Setup Rogue Guild
Eyepoke eyepoke 6/6 Rogue Guild
Footstomp footstomp 6/6 Setup Rogue Guild
Footstomp footstomp 6/6 Rogue Guild
Hamstring hamstring 2/5 Setup
Groin Kick gkick 1/5
Kick Specialization kickspec 5/5 Passive
Hamstring hamstring 1/5
Kneebash kneebash 6/6 Setup Rogue Guild
Kick Specialization kickspec 5/5
Mug mug 1/5 Attack
Kneebash kneebash 6/6 Rogue Guild
Nosetweak nosetweak 6/6 Setup Rogue Guild
Mug mug 2/5
Side by Side sidebyside 5/5 Passive
Nosetweak nosetweak 6/6 Rogue Guild
Stun Maneuvers stunman 6/6 Buff Rogue Guild
Side by Side sidebyside 5/5
Subdue subdue 6/6 Setup Rogue Guild
Stun Maneuvers stunman 5/5 Rogue Guild
Sweep sweep 6/6 Setup Rogue Guild
Subdue subdue 5/5 Rogue Guild
Swiftkick swiftkick 6/6 Setup Rogue Guild
Surge of Strength surge 4/5
Templeshot templeshot 6/6 Setup Rogue Guild
Sweep sweep 6/6 Rogue Guild
Throatchop throatchop 6/6 Setup Rogue Guild
Swiftkick swiftkick 6/6 Rogue Guild
Weapon Specializatio wspec 4/5 Passive
Templeshot templeshot 6/6 Rogue Guild
Whirling Dervish dervish 3/3 Martial Stance
Throatchop throatchop 6/6 Rogue Guild
Weapon Specialization wspec 4/5
Whirling Dervish dervish 3/3
Available Combat Maneuvers Points: 1
Available Combat Maneuvers Points: 1
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==Context==
==Context==


My rogue wears robes and uses dual katars while having two hand crossbows as a backup option. She uses ranged exclusively for Volley and will probably train Ambush ranks in the future to use it as a primary attack form too. ''She doesn't use stealth and Subdue is only there because it comes through the guild.''
My rogue wears robes and uses dual katars while having ranged as a backup option used exclusively for Volley. ''She doesn't use stealth and Subdue is only there because it comes through the guild.''


==Explanation==
==Explanation==
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For the sake of this not being excessively lengthy, I won't talk about any of the rogue guild maneuvers except to say that Kneebash, Sweep, Swiftkick, and Throatchop are all very useful.
For the sake of this not being excessively lengthy, I won't talk about any of the rogue guild maneuvers except to say that Kneebash, Sweep, Swiftkick, and Throatchop are all very useful.


* '''Combat Focus''': This is my only character whose Combat Focus I intend to have a rank other than 0 or 5. I still like some TD protection, but it's not as crucial for a build that uses edged weapons and Evade Specialization. Both can trigger Evasiveness, which works around enemy spells. On top of that, rogues have Throatchop and various ways to inflict Staggered.
* '''Combat Focus''': I like some TD protection, but it's not as crucial for a build that uses edged weapons and Evade Specialization. Both can trigger Evasiveness, which works around enemy spells. On top of that, rogues have Throatchop and various ways to inflict Staggered.
* '''Combat Mobility''': Crucial to survival for an open combat rogue.
* '''Combat Mobility''': Crucial to survival for an open combat rogue.
* '''Coup de Grace''': Weapon Specialization doesn't work on hybrid weapons like katars, so getting extra AS in some other fashion is valuable. Four ranks are usually enough to meet the conditions, as a rogue with edged and ranged trained gets a lot of damage over time going with Slashing Strikes and Volley pulling enemies into the right health range; the latter even adds stun for you most of the time.
* '''Coup de Grace''': Weapon Specialization doesn't work on hybrid weapons like katars, so getting extra AS in some other fashion is valuable. Four ranks are usually enough to meet the conditions, as a rogue with edged and ranged trained gets a lot of damage over time going with Slashing Strikes and Volley pulling enemies into the right health range; the latter even adds stun for you most of the time.
* '''Hamstring''': With two weapons, it's one of the strongest combat maneuvers in the game, if not at the very top!
* '''Dirtkick''': Only one rank because it's the desperation option against enemies where all else fails. Working in defensive stance gives it a niche.
* '''Groin Kick''': Here for defensive purposes.
* '''Hamstring''': Works well with two weapons, but I didn't feel that having more than one rank was necessary when Cripple is right there.
* '''Evade Specialization''': Always half the cornerstone of Spin Kick builds.
* '''Evade Specialization''': Always half the cornerstone of Spin Kick builds.
* '''Kick Specialization''': Always the other half.
* '''Kick Specialization''': Always the other half.
* '''Mug''': I want extra treasure! That said, Mug is the type of maneuver that only cares whether your endroll is 101 or higher, so I didn't feel a need for more than two ranks. Even two might be a bit much, but four spare points wouldn't have done much anywhere else either.
* '''Mug''': I want extra treasure! That said, Mug is the type of maneuver that only cares whether your endroll is 101 or higher, so I didn't feel a need for more than one rank.
* '''Side by Side''': Staple booster for AS and DS in groups.
* '''Side by Side''': Staple booster for AS and DS in groups.
* '''Surge of Strength''': AS booster to make up for the relatively low power of edged weapons.
* '''Weapon Specialization''': Another AS booster.
* '''Weapon Specialization''': Another AS booster.
* '''Whirling Dervish''': I can't imagine going for anything other than this on a two weapon combat rogue.
* '''Whirling Dervish''': I can't imagine going for anything other than this on a two weapon combat rogue.
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Slippery Mind would make enough sense on an Evade Specialization rogue in robes who has ''one'' weapon that I theorycrafted the whole thing out and will maybe post that on this page at some point, but on a two weapon rogue I just don't see foregoing Whirling Dervish for more offensive power. In any case, it's arguably a better use of points than the last two ranks of Combat Focus would have been--not that I trained those either, of course!
Slippery Mind would make enough sense on an Evade Specialization rogue in robes who has ''one'' weapon that I theorycrafted the whole thing out and will maybe post that on this page at some point, but on a two weapon rogue I just don't see foregoing Whirling Dervish for more offensive power. In any case, it's arguably a better use of points than the last two ranks of Combat Focus would have been--not that I trained those either, of course!


If I went down to one rank of Mug, the spare points would probably go to one rank each of Feint and True Strike. Feint is offensively redundant with a rogue's other tools, but always a consideration for defense against an RT-inducing maneuver if nothing else. True Strike has its niche against very evasive enemies.
Feint is offensively redundant with a rogue's other tools, but always a consideration for defense against an RT-inducing maneuver if nothing else.

I'll look into Spell Thieve if I find that I like going to spell sever hunting grounds on a rogue, but at that point the whole build would probably need to be reconsidered.


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=Warrior=
=Warrior=


'''Last updated August 7, 2023'''
Skill Mnemonic Ranks Category Subcategory

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Berserk berserk 6/6 Warrior Guild
Skill Mnemonic Ranks Type Category Subcategory
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Combat Focus focus 3/5
Combat Mobility mobility 1/1
Berserk berserk 6/6 Attack Warrior Guild
Combat Movement cmovement 2/5
Combat Focus focus 3/5 Passive
Coup de Grace coupdegrace 3/5
Combat Mobility mobility 1/1 Passive
Disarm Weapon disarm 6/6 Warrior Guild
Combat Movement cmovement 2/5 Passive
Evade Specialization evadespec 3/3
Coup de Grace coupdegrace 3/5 Attack
Feint feint 6/6 Warrior Guild
Disarm Weapon disarm 6/6 Setup Warrior Guild
Kick Specialization kickspec 5/5
Evade Specialization evadespec 3/3 Passive
Side by Side sidebyside 5/5
Feint feint 6/6 Setup Warrior Guild
Spin Attack sattack 6/6 Warrior Guild
Kick Specialization kickspec 5/5 Passive
Stance Perfection stance 2/2 Warrior Guild
Side by Side sidebyside 5/5 Passive
Surge of Strength surge 5/5
Spin Attack sattack 6/6 Attack Warrior Guild
Tackle tackle 6/6 Warrior Guild
Stance Perfection stance 2/2 Passive Warrior Guild
Weapon Specialization wspec 5/5
Surge of Strength surge 5/5 Buff
Whirling Dervish dervish 3/3
Tackle tackle 6/6 Setup Warrior Guild
Weapon Specializatio wspec 5/5 Passive
Whirling Dervish dervish 3/3 Martial Stance
Available Combat Maneuvers Points: 1
Available Combat Maneuvers Points: 1
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* '''Berserk''': Now relegated to use in Duskruin Arena only.
* '''Berserk''': Now relegated to use in Duskruin Arena only.
* '''Combat Focus''': A necessary step to bringing TD back in line for a warrior in robes. (I do plan to learn Elemental Barrier and Lesser Shroud for her, but at that point we're talking years down the line.) Five ranks are too much opportunity cost, so I decided to make up the rest and then some with +TD robes--which are much more readily available in playershops than people might think! You do have to give up the flare slot, though.
* '''Combat Focus''': A necessary step to bringing TD back in line for a warrior in robes, even after the point of learning Elemental Barrier and Lesser Shroud, Five ranks are too much opportunity cost, so I decided to make up the rest and then some with +TD robes--which are much more readily available in playershops than people might think! You do have to give up the flare slot, though.
* '''Combat Mobility''': Even in plate I'd argue this is a very strong contender for anyone's maneuver points, but in any armor below chain I'd go further and call it a must-have.
* '''Combat Mobility''': Even in plate I'd argue this is a very strong contender for anyone's maneuver points, but in any armor below chain I'd go further and call it a must-have.
* '''Combat Movement''': Basic prerequisite for Side by Side.
* '''Coup de Grace''': AS booster. I think three ranks are fine on a lance wielder since the weapon hits so hard it's likely to put enemies within range.
* '''Coup de Grace''': AS booster. I think three ranks are fine on a lance wielder since the weapon hits so hard it's likely to put enemies within range.
* '''Disarm Weapon''': Here because it comes free from the guild, but I doubt I'd train it otherwise.
* '''Disarm Weapon''': Here because it comes free from the guild, but I doubt I'd train it otherwise.
* '''Evade Specialization''': The key to my warrior's entire build since it fuels Radial Sweep and Spin Kick depending on what's in her hands.
* '''Evade Specialization''': The key to my warrior's entire build since it fuels Radial Sweep and Spin Kick depending on what's in her hands.
* '''Feint''': Free from the guild, but I'm undecided on whether I'd train it otherwise. Warriors have numerous other disabling options.
* '''Feint''': Free from the guild, but I'm undecided on whether I'd train it otherwise. I'm overall not a fan of war cries moving to stamina, but Gerrelle's Growl being among them is definitely one of the upsides. It costs less stamina than Feint, but doesn't inflict RT. Normally that's a notable downside when comparing the two, but in a lot of cases I might prefer the enemy to attack since that means more opportunities at Radial Sweep and Spin Kick.
* '''Kick Specialization''': Some hunting grounds or individual enemies are more manageable with unarmed combat than a lance, and in those places Spin Kick shines.
* '''Kick Specialization''': Some hunting grounds or individual enemies are more manageable with unarmed combat than a lance, so Spin Kick shines in those situations.
* '''Side by Side''': Staple booster for AS and DS in groups.
* '''Side by Side''': Staple booster for AS and DS in groups.
* '''Spin Attack''': Free from the guild. Despite giving a brief boost to Dodging, I definitely wouldn't train it otherwise.
* '''Spin Attack''': Free from the guild. Despite giving a brief boost to Dodging, I definitely wouldn't train it otherwise.
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[[Category:Guides]]

Latest revision as of 18:58, 26 November 2024

This is a guide, tutorial, or gameplay strategy written by one or more players to better assist others with their gameplay enjoyment. The information presented here may be subject to the personal opinion of the contributor(s), and may additionally require periodic updates to keep current as the game environment changes.

Title: Combat Maneuver Choices

Author: Leafiara

Date Published: 2021-07-11

Updated: 2023-08-07


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Preamble

This page mostly assesses combat maneuvers from the perspective of post-cap characters, but even while leveling, there are often insights to be found from reading others' thought processes. Below is my process in case others find it helpful!

Bard

Last updated August 7, 2023

 Skill                Mnemonic        Ranks Type           Category        Subcategory
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 Cheapshots           cheapshots      5/5   Setup          Rogue Guild                     
 Combat Focus         focus           3/5   Passive                                        
 Combat Movement      cmovement       2/5   Passive                                        
 Dirtkick             dirtkick        3/5   Setup                                          
 Eyepoke              eyepoke         5/5   Setup          Rogue Guild                     
 Feint                feint           4/5   Setup          Warrior Guild                   
 Footstomp            footstomp       5/5   Setup          Rogue Guild                     
 Groin Kick           gkick           3/5   Setup                                          
 Hamstring            hamstring       5/5   Setup                                          
 Kneebash             kneebash        5/5   Setup          Rogue Guild                     
 Nosetweak            nosetweak       5/5   Setup          Rogue Guild                     
 Side by Side         sidebyside      5/5   Passive                                        
 Sweep                sweep           5/5   Setup          Rogue Guild                     
 Swiftkick            swiftkick       5/5   Setup          Rogue Guild                     
 Templeshot           templeshot      5/5   Setup          Rogue Guild                     
 Throatchop           throatchop      5/5   Setup          Rogue Guild                     
 True Strike          truestrike      4/5   Attack                                                                          

Available Combat Maneuvers Points: 1


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Cleric

Last updated August 7, 2023

 Skill                Mnemonic        Ranks Type           Category        Subcategory
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 Combat Movement      cmovement       2/5   Passive                                        
 Dirtkick             dirtkick        2/5   Setup                                          
 Feint                feint           5/5   Setup          Warrior Guild                   
 Groin Kick           gkick           5/5   Setup                                          
 Side by Side         sidebyside      5/5   Passive                                    
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Empath

Last updated August 7, 2023

 Skill                Mnemonic        Ranks Type           Category        Subcategory
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 Combat Movement      cmovement       2/5   Passive                                        
 Cunning Defense      cdefense        5/5   Passive                                        
 Dirtkick             dirtkick        3/5   Setup                                          
 Feint                feint           5/5   Setup          Warrior Guild                   
 Groin Kick           gkick           1/5   Setup                                          
 Side by Side         sidebyside      5/5   Passive                                        
 Trip                 trip            1/5   Setup                                          
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Monk

Last updated August 7, 2023

 Skill                Mnemonic        Ranks Type           Category        Subcategory
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 Burst of Swiftness   burst           5/5   Buff                                           
 Combat Focus         focus           2/5   Passive                                        
 Combat Mobility      mobility        1/1   Passive                                        
 Combat Movement      cmovement       2/5   Passive                                        
 Coup de Grace        coupdegrace     5/5   Attack                                         
 Evade Specialization evadespec       3/3   Passive                                        
 Ki Focus             kifocus         3/3   Buff                                           
 Kick Specialization  kickspec        5/5   Passive                                        
 Rolling Krynch Stanc krynch          3/3   Martial Stance                                 
 Side by Side         sidebyside      5/5   Passive                                        

Available Combat Maneuvers Points: 1
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Paladin

Last updated August 7, 2023

 Skill                Mnemonic        Ranks Type           Category        Subcategory
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 Combat Focus         focus           5/5   Passive                                        
 Combat Movement      cmovement       2/5   Passive                                        
 Combat Toughness     toughness       1/3   Passive                                        
 Feint                feint           5/5   Setup          Warrior Guild                   
 Side by Side         sidebyside      5/5   Passive                                        
 Spin Attack          sattack         4/5   Attack         Warrior Guild                   
 Surge of Strength    surge           5/5   Buff                                           
 True Strike          truestrike      4/5   Attack                                         
 Weapon Specializatio wspec           5/5   Passive                                        

Available Combat Maneuvers Points: 1                     
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Ranger

Last updated August 7, 2023

 Skill                Mnemonic        Ranks Type           Category        Subcategory
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 Combat Focus         focus           5/5   Passive                                        
 Combat Movement      cmovement       2/5   Passive                                        
 Dirtkick             dirtkick        4/5   Setup                                          
 Feint                feint           5/5   Setup          Warrior Guild                   
 Groin Kick           gkick           4/5   Setup                                          
 Hamstring            hamstring       3/5   Setup                                          
 Shield Bash          sbash           3/5   Setup                                          
 Side by Side         sidebyside      5/5   Passive                                        
 Sweep                sweep           5/5   Setup          Rogue Guild                     
 Trip                 trip            3/5   Setup                                          

Available Combat Maneuvers Points: 1
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Rogue

Last updated August 7, 2023

Option 1: Open Combat With Dual Katars

 Skill                Mnemonic        Ranks Type           Category        Subcategory
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 Cheapshots           cheapshots      6/6   Setup          Rogue Guild                     
 Combat Focus         focus           3/5   Passive                                        
 Combat Mobility      mobility        1/1   Passive                                        
 Combat Movement      cmovement       2/5   Passive                                        
 Coup de Grace        coupdegrace     4/5   Attack                                         
 Divert               divert          6/6   Setup          Rogue Guild                     
 Evade Specialization evadespec       3/3   Passive                                        
 Eyepoke              eyepoke         6/6   Setup          Rogue Guild                     
 Footstomp            footstomp       6/6   Setup          Rogue Guild                     
 Hamstring            hamstring       2/5   Setup                                          
 Kick Specialization  kickspec        5/5   Passive                                        
 Kneebash             kneebash        6/6   Setup          Rogue Guild                     
 Mug                  mug             1/5   Attack                                         
 Nosetweak            nosetweak       6/6   Setup          Rogue Guild                     
 Side by Side         sidebyside      5/5   Passive                                        
 Stun Maneuvers       stunman         6/6   Buff           Rogue Guild                     
 Subdue               subdue          6/6   Setup          Rogue Guild                     
 Sweep                sweep           6/6   Setup          Rogue Guild                     
 Swiftkick            swiftkick       6/6   Setup          Rogue Guild                     
 Templeshot           templeshot      6/6   Setup          Rogue Guild                     
 Throatchop           throatchop      6/6   Setup          Rogue Guild                     
 Weapon Specializatio wspec           4/5   Passive                                        
 Whirling Dervish     dervish         3/3   Martial Stance                                 

Available Combat Maneuvers Points: 1
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Warrior

Last updated August 7, 2023

 Skill                Mnemonic        Ranks Type           Category        Subcategory
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 Berserk              berserk         6/6   Attack         Warrior Guild                   
 Combat Focus         focus           3/5   Passive                                        
 Combat Mobility      mobility        1/1   Passive                                        
 Combat Movement      cmovement       2/5   Passive                                        
 Coup de Grace        coupdegrace     3/5   Attack                                         
 Disarm Weapon        disarm          6/6   Setup          Warrior Guild                   
 Evade Specialization evadespec       3/3   Passive                                        
 Feint                feint           6/6   Setup          Warrior Guild                   
 Kick Specialization  kickspec        5/5   Passive                                        
 Side by Side         sidebyside      5/5   Passive                                        
 Spin Attack          sattack         6/6   Attack         Warrior Guild                   
 Stance Perfection    stance          2/2   Passive        Warrior Guild                   
 Surge of Strength    surge           5/5   Buff                                           
 Tackle               tackle          6/6   Setup          Warrior Guild                   
 Weapon Specializatio wspec           5/5   Passive                                        
 Whirling Dervish     dervish         3/3   Martial Stance                                 

Available Combat Maneuvers Points: 1
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