Talk:Spell hindrance

There was some discussion elsewhere on whether the hindrance table is accurate for Empath Base spells because some characters were experiencing 2% spell failure with double leather and 8 Armor Use ranks (the table has 0%). The documentation is inconsistent: http://www.play.net/gs4/info/armory/armor.asp has the same table as this page, but http://www.play.net/gs4/info/armory/armorleather.asp has 4% failure. It was also cited that the ;armor popup script shows 2%. My own experience matches this page (and I think the script is also wrong on several other ASGs where the numbers differ) but there were several other players reporting 2% so there might be something to it. ZHOUY1 (talk) 14:46, 21 November 2016 (CST)

I'll make sure this gets to Kaikala. VANKRASN39 (talk) 15:31, 21 November 2016 (CST)

Are they sure they were getting 2% failure with Empath Base, or was it with 1700 (which is essentially a sorcerer spell)? I've never seen empath hindrance on any other native spell in any form of soft leather armor. PFLATS (talk) 17:12, 22 November 2016 (CST)

The article is not quite clear on what the undertraining penalty for spell hindrance is.

• Base Hindrance is the value listed on the table
• Armor Use bonus required to reach Base Hindrance is (Base Hindrance * 20 - 10)
• If Armor Use is less than the requirement, the penalty is ---? Is it +1% hindrance per 20 bonus? (That would imply hindrance at 0 ranks = 2 * Base.) ZHOUY1 (talk) 18:39, 23 January 2017 (CST)