Leafiara (prime)/Mechanical Musings/Ascension Considerations

Recording my musings on how to most effectively train ATPs as the thoughts come to me.

Should I take 10 ranks of Logic Training first to make everything else faster?

Nope.

At 750,000 exp to take that much Logic Training and a rate of one exp pulse per minute, someone would need to play for 750,001 minutes before this plan becomes a net benefit. Even someone who threw their initial 10 milestone ATPs at this and then added the other 5 over time would still need to play 250,001 minutes for it to pay off, which is equal to playing 24/7 for about 0.4756 years.

That's also not even factoring in the opportunity cost of not putting those points elsewhere. For the same amount of ATPs you could have an additional 10 AS, 5 CS for most professions, +5% chance for another damage cycle on Spike Thorn, etc.

How do I most efficiently become the best bolter (or locksmith) ever?

Exp	Cumulative	Skill	Ranks	Benefit	Rate
250k	250k	Spell Aiming	5	+5 AS	50k per AS
200k	450k	Dexterity	4	+2 AS	100k per AS
500k	950k	Spell Aiming	5	+5 AS	100k per AS
150k	1.1m	Dexterity	2	+1 AS	150k per AS
750k	1.85m	Spell Aiming	5	+5 AS	150k per AS
400k	2.25m	Dexterity	4	+2 AS	200k per AS
1.25m	3.5m	Spell Aiming	5	+5 AS	250k per AS

And so on. (The same math also applies to improving Picking Locks or Dexterity.)

When rates are equal, I'd give Dexterity precedence because it also improves SMRv2 defense or mstrike RT. SA does offer runestaff DS or spellburst protection, though.

I want to boost melee AS and nothing but melee AS, so how do I do it?

Basically the same math as above except now there are two things on the Dexterity scale...

Exp	Cumulative	Skill	Ranks	Benefit	Rate
250k	250k	Weapon	5	+5 AS	50k per AS
200k	450k	Strength	4	+2 AS	100k per AS
200k	650k	Combat Maneuvers	4	+2 AS	100k per AS
500k	1.15m	Weapon	5	+5 AS	100k per AS
150k	1.3m	Strength	2	+1 AS	150k per AS
150k	1.45m	Combat Maneuvers	2	+1 AS	150k per AS
750k	2.2m	Weapon	5	+5 AS	150k per AS
400k	2.6m	Strength	4	+2 AS	200k per AS
400k	3m	Combat Maneuvers	4	+2 AS	200k per AS
1.25m	4.25m	Weapon	5	+5 AS	250k per AS

And so on.

When they're at the same rate, you can flip them around however you like. The AS benefits are equal, but Strength offers encumbrance benefits, CM offers maneuver defense, and weapon bonus (to my understanding) decreases enemy EBP.

What if my melee weapon is a katar?

Exp	Cumulative	Skill	Ranks	Benefit	Rate
200k	200k	Strength	4	+2 AS	100k per AS
200k	400k	Combat Maneuvers	4	+2 AS	100k per AS
500k	900k	Edged and Brawling	10 (total)	+5 AS	100k per AS
150k	1.15m	Strength	2	+1 AS	150k per AS
150k	1.3m	Combat Maneuvers	2	+1 AS	150k per AS
400k	1.7m	Strength	4	+2 AS	200k per AS
400k	2.1m	Combat Maneuvers	4	+2 AS	200k per AS
1m	3.1m	Edged and Brawling	10 (total)	+5 AS	200k per AS
600k	3.7m	Strength	4	+2 AS	200k per AS
600k	4.3m	Combat Maneuvers	4	+2 AS	200k per AS
1.5m	5.8m	Edged and Brawling	10 (total)	+5 AS	300k per AS
350k	6.15m	Strength	2	+1 AS	350k per AS
350k	6.5m	Combat Maneuvers	2	+1 AS	350k per AS
800k	7.3m	Strength	4	+2 AS	400k per AS
800k	8.1m	Combat Maneuvers	4	+2 AS	400k per AS
2m	10.1m	Edged and Brawling	10 (total)	+5 AS	400k per AS