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This skill allows a player to trip an opponent.
This skill allows a player to trip an opponent.

==Information from Midgar's Rogue Guild Erudition==
[http://home.comcast.net/~cabri/sweep.htm http://home.comcast.net/~cabri/sweep.htm]

With this skill, you can trip both critters and people. If you are mastered in this skill, you will have little or no trouble sweeping things your level.

;Factors affecting sweep
*Your level vs Opponents level
*Sweep ranks
*Wearing heavy armor
*Your race
*Encumberace (Encumbrance can also increase your RT when sweeping)

==Training in Sweep==

First of all, sweep tasks have an exact pattern they follow, unlike the other skills which are random.
;Order of sweep tasks:
*Critters
*Sweeping a fellow guild member
*Getting swept by a fellow guild member
*Skilled masters
*Dummies (sometimes the training administrator will skip dummies)
*Sweeping the courtyard

Your first rank of sweep is what I call a "freebie" rank. All you have to do is sweep a skilled master and then you get a rank.

;Critters
:This task gives you 15 training points and 150 exp.

In order to complete this task, you must find a critter that is near your level to practice sweep on.
:<level 20 - critter no more than 6 levels below you
:>level 20 - critter no more than 10 levels below you
:>level 80 - critter no more than 20 levels below you

Most people who join the guild at 15, sweep hill trolls by the hanging inn. Once they stop working for you, try dark orcs, then mountain ogres, then krolvin mercinaries, then warriors, then warfarers. After them, hooded figures or rotting corpses are probably best.

*Note, there is a second equation that is sometimes involved in deciding how many levels below you a critter can be and you still be able to get reps from it. If the answer to this equation is lower than the numbers stated above, then it takes the place of them. It's very rare that people fall under this equation. The equation is this: [(Level/5) + (Guild rank/4) + 3] = Levels below you in which a critter can be and still give you reps. So if you were level 20, and only had a guild rank of 11, then a critter must be no more than 9 levels below you in order for you to get reps from it. But at 12 ranks, this equation would no longer be a factor, because the answer would be 10 (20/5) + 12/4 + 3 = 10), which is not lower than the numbers stated in the paragraph above.

;Sweeping a fellow guild member
:This task gives you 12 training points and 120 exp.
:The person being swept gets 10 exp per rep you get from them.

The best place to do this is in the courtyard center of the guild. You need to find someone with no more than two ranks less than you to sweep. You can try asking out loud for someone to sweep, or you can use the "gld rank" command to help you find someone with enough ranks. When I sweep someone, I like to pull them up - It makes it easier for them.

;Getting swept by a fellow guild member
:This task gives you 10 training points and 100 exp.
:The person sweeping gets 10 exp per rep you get from them.
This is just like the previous task, but you have to get swept instead.

*Note, guildmasters give double reps. Don't feel bad about asking them for help all the time. Most don't mind at all. But please make sure you show appreciation and respect for them. They have worked very hard to get where they are, and are being very kind helping you.

;Skilled masters
:This task gives you 8 training points and 80 exp.
"Ask (master) about training in (skill)" and they will take you to a secluded corner. The master will explain what you need to do. As you gain more ranks, the masters change what they do a bit. I forget exactly when they change, but eventually they will start sweeping back while you are sweeping them, and then after rank 45, they start swinging too. Make sure you stance dance. It helps a lot - he has a much harder time sweeping you. One more thing, make sure your armor is off if it gives you any penalties.

;Dummies
:This task gives you 5 training points and 50 exp.
This task is hard at first, but becomes VERY easy after you get a few ranks. First, "go dummie". To sweep the dummies there is a combination of commands you need to know. "Sweep dummie", "get dummie", and "fix dummie".

;Sweeping the courtyard
:This task gives you 5 training points and 50 exp.
This is probably the most tedious sweep task. To sweep the dirt, you must first get a bag and broom. They are located in the storage basement on the tool rack (refer to map), "get broom" and "get bag" from the rack. Everytime you fill your bag with dirt, go back to the basement and "put bag in bin". There are 6 places in the Landing guild where there is dirt. All of these are located around the courtyard. To sweep the dirt, you "push broom". Keep doing this until there is no more dirt (1-3 sweeps per room, unless someone makes more dirt while you are doing it.), then "get pile". Once your bag has 8 sweeps worth of dirt in it, dump it in the bin in the basement and you will get a rep.

*Note, if you "put bag in bin", even if it is not full, it will make more dirt in the courtyard. I can't tell you how many times I've seen people standing around waiting for more dirt to appear to sweep because they didn't know about this.




[[User:EKEUP|EKEUP]] 08:54, 21 December 2005 (CST)

Revision as of 09:54, 21 December 2005

This skill allows a player to trip an opponent.

Information from Midgar's Rogue Guild Erudition

http://home.comcast.net/~cabri/sweep.htm

With this skill, you can trip both critters and people. If you are mastered in this skill, you will have little or no trouble sweeping things your level.

Factors affecting sweep
  • Your level vs Opponents level
  • Sweep ranks
  • Wearing heavy armor
  • Your race
  • Encumberace (Encumbrance can also increase your RT when sweeping)

Training in Sweep

First of all, sweep tasks have an exact pattern they follow, unlike the other skills which are random.

Order of sweep tasks
  • Critters
  • Sweeping a fellow guild member
  • Getting swept by a fellow guild member
  • Skilled masters
  • Dummies (sometimes the training administrator will skip dummies)
  • Sweeping the courtyard

Your first rank of sweep is what I call a "freebie" rank. All you have to do is sweep a skilled master and then you get a rank.

Critters
This task gives you 15 training points and 150 exp.

In order to complete this task, you must find a critter that is near your level to practice sweep on.

<level 20 - critter no more than 6 levels below you
>level 20 - critter no more than 10 levels below you
>level 80 - critter no more than 20 levels below you

Most people who join the guild at 15, sweep hill trolls by the hanging inn. Once they stop working for you, try dark orcs, then mountain ogres, then krolvin mercinaries, then warriors, then warfarers. After them, hooded figures or rotting corpses are probably best.

  • Note, there is a second equation that is sometimes involved in deciding how many levels below you a critter can be and you still be able to get reps from it. If the answer to this equation is lower than the numbers stated above, then it takes the place of them. It's very rare that people fall under this equation. The equation is this: [(Level/5) + (Guild rank/4) + 3] = Levels below you in which a critter can be and still give you reps. So if you were level 20, and only had a guild rank of 11, then a critter must be no more than 9 levels below you in order for you to get reps from it. But at 12 ranks, this equation would no longer be a factor, because the answer would be 10 (20/5) + 12/4 + 3 = 10), which is not lower than the numbers stated in the paragraph above.
Sweeping a fellow guild member
This task gives you 12 training points and 120 exp.
The person being swept gets 10 exp per rep you get from them.

The best place to do this is in the courtyard center of the guild. You need to find someone with no more than two ranks less than you to sweep. You can try asking out loud for someone to sweep, or you can use the "gld rank" command to help you find someone with enough ranks. When I sweep someone, I like to pull them up - It makes it easier for them.

Getting swept by a fellow guild member
This task gives you 10 training points and 100 exp.
The person sweeping gets 10 exp per rep you get from them.

This is just like the previous task, but you have to get swept instead.

  • Note, guildmasters give double reps. Don't feel bad about asking them for help all the time. Most don't mind at all. But please make sure you show appreciation and respect for them. They have worked very hard to get where they are, and are being very kind helping you.
Skilled masters
This task gives you 8 training points and 80 exp.

"Ask (master) about training in (skill)" and they will take you to a secluded corner. The master will explain what you need to do. As you gain more ranks, the masters change what they do a bit. I forget exactly when they change, but eventually they will start sweeping back while you are sweeping them, and then after rank 45, they start swinging too. Make sure you stance dance. It helps a lot - he has a much harder time sweeping you. One more thing, make sure your armor is off if it gives you any penalties.

Dummies
This task gives you 5 training points and 50 exp.

This task is hard at first, but becomes VERY easy after you get a few ranks. First, "go dummie". To sweep the dummies there is a combination of commands you need to know. "Sweep dummie", "get dummie", and "fix dummie".

Sweeping the courtyard
This task gives you 5 training points and 50 exp.

This is probably the most tedious sweep task. To sweep the dirt, you must first get a bag and broom. They are located in the storage basement on the tool rack (refer to map), "get broom" and "get bag" from the rack. Everytime you fill your bag with dirt, go back to the basement and "put bag in bin". There are 6 places in the Landing guild where there is dirt. All of these are located around the courtyard. To sweep the dirt, you "push broom". Keep doing this until there is no more dirt (1-3 sweeps per room, unless someone makes more dirt while you are doing it.), then "get pile". Once your bag has 8 sweeps worth of dirt in it, dump it in the bin in the basement and you will get a rep.

  • Note, if you "put bag in bin", even if it is not full, it will make more dirt in the courtyard. I can't tell you how many times I've seen people standing around waiting for more dirt to appear to sweep because they didn't know about this.



EKEUP 08:54, 21 December 2005 (CST)