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==Duplicate Logs==
'''This is a personal accounting of Opalina's experience--these are her personal views, and actions from her perspective, no logs are being recorded at this time. '''
Hi there, TUMARA. You recently added two logs that appear to be identical to the wiki. Can you please clarify which one you intended to keep? You can do this by editing the duplicate log that you want deleted and adding <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki> somewhere on that log article. That flags it for a mod to delete. The two logs are:
* [[The Heads Rolled (Battle Log)]]
* [[The Heads Rolled--Battle Log]]
I will update the one you intended to keep with the correct log title once you have identified it. It will end up as titled "Evermore Hollow - 2023-10-23 - The Heads Rolled Battle (log)", per [[Gswiki:Style guide/Formatting special articles#Logs]]. If you do not note which article you prefer to keep within 7 days, then I will delete the newer article and keep the older one. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:35, 31 October 2023 (CDT)
[[User:TUMARA|TUMARA]] ([[User talk:TUMARA|talk]]) 11:34, 31 October 2023 (CDT) thank you Hopefully the name change will not mess up how it's connected to the other log?
:Thank you very much! I have deleted the duplicate articled that you had marked, and I have also updated the links on the two related log articles so that they properly link back to one another. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:20, 1 November 2023 (CDT)


==Uploaded Images==
Hi there! Thank you for your MANY updates to the wiki, especially your relentless efforts to chronicle the ongoing events in the Icemule Trace region. I'm reaching out to you regarding two things.


First, while I was looking at your recent uploads to the wiki, linked from [[Opalina (prime)]] ("Opalina.png", "Opalina outside.png", "Opalina fighting.png", "OpalnFalvicar4.png", "Sloop.png", and "Brig.png") and this page, [[User talk:TUMARA]] ("Opalina writing desk.png"), I noticed that none of the images include information about the original source or that permission was granted to use them. Please see [[Help:Style#Copyrights]] for more information about the requirement to provide the source and artist name for all images uploaded to GSwiki. If you are the artist who created the artwork, you can simply note that instead. Additionally, if the image was created with AI artwork software, you will also need to note what program was used (Midjourney, etc.). If you need an example of how to do this, the character page [[Arenglae (prime)]] does this very clearly for all of the portraits. Thanks for understanding! I'll check back in soon to see if this information has been updated.


Second, I've noticed that you use your user talk page (this page) a bit atypically compared to most other wiki contributors. Generally speaking, the user talk page is designed to facilitate communication between wiki contributors through the wiki itself, or communication between users and mods. Anyone editing your user talk page will cause a banner to display at the top of the wiki until you view it. Looking at everything else on your user talk page, I actually recommend moving all of the contents to your user page, [[User:TUMARA]], which is currently blank. That would allow other users or mods such as myself to contact you if the need arises without modifying the important information you have archived on this page. If you need assistance in moving it over, I would be happy to help with that. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 10:07, 1 December 2022 (CST)


== Pictures and moves ==


Thank you for your support and keeping me on the right path here on this Wiki I love participating and want to ensure Im always doing it correctly. I wasn't sure about the AI part I hope the way I changed them will work? I look forward to feed back on that. I was able to move everything to the other page I believe as well. that seemed relatively painless. Hopefully I didn't mess that up. Do I need to re-upload the pictures so they have notes directly on them? [[User:TUMARA|TUMARA]] ([[User talk:TUMARA|talk]]) 12:17, 11 December 2022 (CST)
= The Icemule's City Council =


:Hi again! I'm responding to the edit that you did on my user page asking about uploaded logs.
Opalina's Thoughts
:All of your many logs uploaded to the wiki are outstanding, and I sincerely appreciate the effort you put forth with them. I have moved a couple of logs to "rename" them according to the style guide ([[Help:Style/Formatting_special_articles#Logs|more information is available here]]), but each time I've done so, it's been for very minor stuff. Per the current style guide standard, log page titles should be in the format of:
: * [Storyline or Event Title, if applicable] - [Date] - [Title of Log, if applicable] (log)
: * For example: Blood Son - 2020-01-01 - Excitement in Wehnimer's Landing (log)
:This naming format helps logs to appear properly in various categories. I have also added [[:Category:Logs]] to a couple of yours that were missing it. This makes sure that they are populated correctly in that category so everyone can easily find them if they do not have a direct link. Both of these are incredibly minor edits that are easily overlooked, so please don't be alarmed if I make changes like them to your logs.
:Thank you for all of the updates you made to the images! They're all very lovely and I really enjoyed viewing them. I would recommend only adding one thing, and that is noting that you are the person who created them via Midjourney. You can reference yourself as your character, your account, or even just something as simple as, "AI art generated by me using Midjourney.com", so that it is clear that you are the creator behind them. None of the images need to be uploaded again, having the credit information on them as you did is more than enough.
:I hope that what I shared about the difference between user pages and user talk pages made sense to you. Ultimately how you use your user talk page is up to you - I mostly didn't want to get your amazing record of information lost amid questions from mods or another user wanting to say thank you for doing such a great job with them. Also, just in case you ever need to do so, you can automatically "sign" anything you put on the wiki (which is very useful for user talk pages) with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the very end, which is how I added my "signature" to this comment. Thanks again for all of your help with making the wiki so great! If you ever have any other questions, feel free to reach out to me or another mod, or to ask in the #wiki-talk channel on the official Discord server. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 08:46, 6 December 2022 (CST)


Thank you so much it's so neat to learn more and more about how to build in this wiki.[[User:TUMARA|TUMARA]] ([[User talk:TUMARA|talk]]) 08:29, 12 December 2022 (CST)
==A call to action from the citizens of Icemule==


== Images at Risk for Deletion ==
Sitting at the table in my home I'm running through my desire to support Icemule. I don't feel confident in being able to help be on a council but I am feeling this strong desire to do so. I lay my head down on the cool table. My white lizard companion nuzzles my cheek before biting my ear Great even he wants me to stop moping.. Fine Fine I'll just throw myself out there and see what happens.


Hi there, TUMARA. I am reaching out to you about three images that you previously uploaded to the wiki. GSwiki now has a new policy for all images uploaded to it that is a little more detailed than the last time we communicated. Please see [[Gswiki:Policy#Copyrights]] for more information about that policy and the requirement to note image creators, what AI imaging software was used (if any), and if permission was granted by the creator to upload the image to the wiki. You have been really helpful in the past about making sure that your images always meet policy, which is greatly appreciated. I am flagging a few images generated by other players using AI art software. While it's fine to upload images created by someone else, you will have to note specifically if permission was granted by them to upload them to the wiki. Can you please confirm that for these three images:
==The speeches==
* [[:File:Falkissingopal.png]] - The caption notes that Falvicar's player generated this image via AI art software. I did see that it was added by his player to his wiki article. Can you confirm that his player granted permission to upload it?
* [[:File:Falkissingopaltoon.png]] - The caption notes that Falvicar's player generated this image via AI art software. I did see that it was added by his player to his wiki article. Can you confirm that his player granted permission to upload it?
* [[:File:Redheaded Halfling.png]] - The caption notes that Aliashyrah's player generated this image. Can you confirm that her player granted permission to upload it?
'''If that information is not added within 7 days, these images will be deleted from the wiki.''' If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for images, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [[https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1061330227843833926%7CDiscord forum's wiki thread]]. I did do a quick look back through all of your uploaded images, and everything else is in compliance with the current policy based on information that you had previously provided, so this should hopefully be the last time I reach out to you about older images like this. Thank you for your help and understanding. [[User:HOST-GSKEBECHET|HOST-GSKEBECHET]] ([[User talk:HOST-GSKEBECHET|talk]]) 09:09, 24 August 2023 (CDT)


Thank you so much for bringing this to my attention! I will take care of it right away. [[User:TUMARA|TUMARA]] ([[User talk:TUMARA|talk]]) 08:31, 25 August 2023 (CDT)
The gods above that was a terrible experience! I was so flustered..But it's over now to just wait. I do not like public speaking it's always created deep anxiety in my stomach but I was filled with a fire I didn't understand and I thankfully didn't get sick lucky them...

==The wait==

I've been so blessed, people have returned to town as of late to cast their votes. Whispers and Kind words are pressed on me like a soft blanket of encouragement. I almost feel too warmed by their vote of confidence that I would be a good choice to add to the council. Will I?

==Out come==

Ohh it was so exciting a change of the hands meeting with the Mayor was made to change over to the new city council members. I am so excited to have made it! The voters choose Gespry, Myself, Kobane, Roelon, and Bakarus. I feel really good about this group. Arianiss passed along a nice cloak to Bakarus and gave me a folded parchment. He whispered to me that I needed to show it to Gespry as soon as possible. That was kinda puzzling since I thought the parchment was just a list of Council items to work on! Soon as I had a free moment I opened the note and read it. My heart sank at one of the lines. I put on a smile and refolded the note placing it back into my bag.

= The List =

After the party I rushed to a private table to re-read the parchment handed to me from the former Council member Arianiss. I unfold the parchment and read..


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In the Common language, it reads:

* a wooden plaque in Clovertooth with the names of those who donated metal slabs (Aethyra, Arianiss, Asben, Cyar, Earthdiver, Erienne, Fahlo, Falvicar, Gespry, Jastalyn, Jasron, Jiarine, Kittai, Laelithonel, Portes, Roelon, Taulramil, Teaberry, Trouthe)

* alley shop taxes, where do they go

* will the cottage on east road ever open (otherwise tear it down and put a petting zoo in its place)

* Faire of the North

* more guards (12 of them so shifts can be taken at each gate)

* Vaalor treaty decision

* mend relations with the King of Ta'Vaalor

* elevate Icemule with other cities

* Ta'Illistim embassy in Icemule

* better anti-air defenses

* citizens in town guard positions as captains

* status of Kadya and her Eorgina request

* fix the statue in Town Center

* fix the windmill in the southwest corner of town

* clean up the wreckage in the Elven Alley


* Arnabas

* the traitor is Bakarus (and Aethyra is on the verge of telling everything she knows if something isn't done about it)


* reconnect Icemule to the half-krolvin village in the west

* dock for sea access

* safe haven for non combatants during attacks on town

* system to promote stronger engagement between citizens and council (government)

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I read and re-read the name Bakarus... It can't be so this makes no sense at all.. My mind is made up.. I will speak to Bakarus. There is no way I'll sully his name to the rest of the group. I mean we only just made it to the council, it's not fair to hurt him before we know all the truth.

I send a private message to Bakarus, "Do you have a moment? We need to talk. Can you meet me in private at the Moot Hall Lockers?"

Bakarus agreed and traversed to landing only to receive a new message from me correcting the location to the Icemule lockers. This would throw off anyone following him.

Pulling the secret volume on the shelf I enter into the quiet room and wait.

Bakarus enters and greets me with my new title. I'm flustered but smiled anyway. I have no idea if this is right but I have to share anyway I'd want someone to share if I were being accused of something.

I cleared my throat and Told him congrats on getting the cloak from Arianiss and asked him if he remembered the parchment that I was handed.. he nodded and I quickly continued.

It says some terrible things Bakarus.. I don't want to believe it!

He asks to see the parchment and I show him and wait patiently as he reads it not once but twice as well..

He sighs and shakes his head and then asks me if I'd heard of the letters left at the Shrine outside the west gate revealing town secrets.

I nodded my head slowly but shared that I've not read them so I have no idea what was revealed or even who revealed it.

He said there was a woman who found the letters and turned them over to Arianiss, and that even he didn't know what was on them.

He did see, however, how his name could be used because he was used by the lich to share a message. He stated it was entirely out of his control and he is more concerned about the town than ever.

I couldn't help but feel for him Even I know what it means to be controlled by a lich without your permission. It's happened to me!..

I will not share with the rest of the council Bakarus' name. Right in front of him I erased the line that accused him.

I was asked to show this to Gespry as soon as possible.. But it will only be what is needed right now. Bakarus and I agreed to be careful and watch out for each other.

Later I found Gespry and gave him the modified parchment.

== What do you know? ==

Awe I love a good Dreavening! Dreaven has a team of folks that get together and provides special services so we can travel a little safer. Sometimes folks from all over come together at his meetings, to drink, chat, and have a good time.

This is where I was when Sorlu found me. He waved to me. He whispered, "If you have time later can we chat? I want to share a few things with you now that you are on the council." How can I pass that up?! I of course accepted. I was really curious about what was on his mind. I agreed to meet with him he stated he wanted someplace private and I of course thought of the Underground tunnel in Icemule. I suggested we meet at the Lockers..later..

So here I found myself pulling the volume to access the hidden room for a second time.

After speaking with Sorlu and learning a few interesting tidbits about him it became obvious that no one has seen the letters that were written at the Altar revealing town secrets. Town secrets that were supposed to be private? I think the time has some to address that. What was actually in those letters anyway.

Time to visit with Arianiss and if I can't find him.. maybe I should seek out the woman..

== No Answers... just more questions! ==

Looking at the statue in town center creates a sadness inside me. Why did it have to be destroyed.. Well plans are in place to rebuild. The sculpture artist is hired, and the plans are being submitted. I can't wait to see the creativity that is expressed by the artist.

Kobane suddenly comes into view. I guess he was hiding in the shadows. He's such a strange wizard. He could almost pass as rogue! I hear myself giggle a little bit as even I was hidden in the shadows. I step around the broken statue just as Roelon enters the square. Ohh perfect!

I link arms with Roelon and stride over to Kobane, " hey do you two have a minute? I have some questions"

Of course they both agree and I link arms with Kobane and march us off to White Haven's conference room. I secretly hoped that Gespry would be sitting in his usual spot but he wasn't. So it was just us three.

My attention on Kobane I ask the only other member of the previous council I had access too at this time.. "Did you see the letters that were left at the shrine?"

Kobane so casually sits in one of the chairs and smiles with a slight twinkle in his eye .. damn he does know everything.. I wonder .. will he share with me??

And he does! He told me that there wasn't a signature on the letters.. It was only signed with a letter.. B... And truth be told there were not city secrets revealed.. only an offer of service.. Interesting.. indeed..

Service? What kind of Service? And who was B? Can it really be Bakarus? or was it another B.. names were thrown at me Bhenidre, and the lack of trust in Arianiss, and some fire mage named Jiarine.. So many more questions! ... Where does the circle start and close?

I tried to convince them that I didn't suspect Bakarus, but how can even I hold faith in those words when I barely know him myself.. I have to trust in my intuition and have faith in the group.. Time will reveal itself eventually

== Bakarus Name cleared... Reiphe.. questionable! ==

The town center..

People began gathering in front of the bonfire discussing the statue and pointing out the broken pieces..

Reiphe enters and stands up so everyone can see him. Sure he's short in statue but he always commands a presence. All eye's turn to him and he begins to talk about issues with the Firebird and the plans to travel north.. But before he continued he changed his tune to the newly appointed council members and Congratulated us. I don't think he actually looked at me but Im sure his eye's met Kobanes.

No sooner than his words flow from his mouth, a group of deputies enter the room looking around with suspect and march up to Reiphe cuff him and haul him off to jail!!!

Among the chaos our Mayor Tallivar walks in and begins to explain. He started to apologies to Bakarus for thinking he was a traitor! and then he was stating that Reiphe was embezzling coin from the town coffers! Even though it wasn't a whole lot so far.. it was enough to get attention..

There were folks balking at such an idea and demanding release and offering to pay the amount which was revealed was only about 10 million silvers.

Others were concerned as to why Reiphe would do such a thing. I was wondering if he was being cohersed or threaten..

The mayor assured the town that Reiphe would be kept safe but not released without further questioning, the possibility of a trial and or a meeting for discussion with him..

I for one want to ensure fair treatment and understanding of what has happened both for the town and for Reiphe's sake..

= Town Mule --don't forget to enter your own suggestions-- =

Greetings,

Here is my submission for the Statue. I look forward to seeing the end result!
Opalina

An ice statue of a climbing mule
>look statue

A crystal-clear star dais, etched with a tiny parade of penguins, creates the bottom of this statue. There are pointed arrows indicate the four quarters of the town. Exploding upward from the dais, is a snow beaten mountain being climbed, with determination reflected in the eyes and muscles of a mule. The mule’s head nearly touches its chest as it’s bent down fighting the winds and weather to reach its destination. The sculptures artist captured movement with the chiseled spray of the mane and tail behind the climbing mule. You also see a plaque.

>read plaque

The plaque reads in common, "The Four joined to One at the heart of the Mule"

= Did...Icemule's government become the cat's-paw for foreign powers??? =

== The Jury Discussion QnA Updated ==

I joined my fellow Council members as we discussed how best to help the Mayor with the trial.. We all finally agreed on a Judge and a backup judge. We have formulated a list of interested parties and announce a meeting time for interviews on Feastday <saturday> at 10pm as the elves tell time. <10pm eastern> The list so far is so short! I hope others step up at the last minute to offer their service.


----
The List

*Bellaja
*Randsford
*Trouthe
*Vaemyr
*Teaberry
*Gutstorm
*Seesall

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Hopefully the questions we ask will help narrow down the panel to a possible judge (with the option of a backup) that will be fair and look at all the data provided to be able to formulate a decision.

<So to be clear.. I misunderstood what the plan was and I am correcting it. So instead of 5 jurors it will be 1 judge with a backup in case something happens to the first or they are unable to meet at the time needed to run the trail.>

== The Chosen Jury ==



== The Trial Date ==

==The Trial of Reiphe ==

Latest revision as of 08:20, 1 November 2023

Duplicate Logs

Hi there, TUMARA. You recently added two logs that appear to be identical to the wiki. Can you please clarify which one you intended to keep? You can do this by editing the duplicate log that you want deleted and adding {{delete}} somewhere on that log article. That flags it for a mod to delete. The two logs are:

I will update the one you intended to keep with the correct log title once you have identified it. It will end up as titled "Evermore Hollow - 2023-10-23 - The Heads Rolled Battle (log)", per Gswiki:Style guide/Formatting special articles#Logs. If you do not note which article you prefer to keep within 7 days, then I will delete the newer article and keep the older one. HOST-GSKEBECHET (talk) 09:35, 31 October 2023 (CDT) TUMARA (talk) 11:34, 31 October 2023 (CDT) thank you Hopefully the name change will not mess up how it's connected to the other log?

Thank you very much! I have deleted the duplicate articled that you had marked, and I have also updated the links on the two related log articles so that they properly link back to one another. HOST-GSKEBECHET (talk) 08:20, 1 November 2023 (CDT)

Uploaded Images

Hi there! Thank you for your MANY updates to the wiki, especially your relentless efforts to chronicle the ongoing events in the Icemule Trace region. I'm reaching out to you regarding two things.

First, while I was looking at your recent uploads to the wiki, linked from Opalina (prime) ("Opalina.png", "Opalina outside.png", "Opalina fighting.png", "OpalnFalvicar4.png", "Sloop.png", and "Brig.png") and this page, User talk:TUMARA ("Opalina writing desk.png"), I noticed that none of the images include information about the original source or that permission was granted to use them. Please see Help:Style#Copyrights for more information about the requirement to provide the source and artist name for all images uploaded to GSwiki. If you are the artist who created the artwork, you can simply note that instead. Additionally, if the image was created with AI artwork software, you will also need to note what program was used (Midjourney, etc.). If you need an example of how to do this, the character page Arenglae (prime) does this very clearly for all of the portraits. Thanks for understanding! I'll check back in soon to see if this information has been updated.

Second, I've noticed that you use your user talk page (this page) a bit atypically compared to most other wiki contributors. Generally speaking, the user talk page is designed to facilitate communication between wiki contributors through the wiki itself, or communication between users and mods. Anyone editing your user talk page will cause a banner to display at the top of the wiki until you view it. Looking at everything else on your user talk page, I actually recommend moving all of the contents to your user page, User:TUMARA, which is currently blank. That would allow other users or mods such as myself to contact you if the need arises without modifying the important information you have archived on this page. If you need assistance in moving it over, I would be happy to help with that. HOST-GSKEBECHET (talk) 10:07, 1 December 2022 (CST)

Pictures and moves

Thank you for your support and keeping me on the right path here on this Wiki I love participating and want to ensure Im always doing it correctly. I wasn't sure about the AI part I hope the way I changed them will work? I look forward to feed back on that. I was able to move everything to the other page I believe as well. that seemed relatively painless. Hopefully I didn't mess that up. Do I need to re-upload the pictures so they have notes directly on them? TUMARA (talk) 12:17, 11 December 2022 (CST)

Hi again! I'm responding to the edit that you did on my user page asking about uploaded logs.
All of your many logs uploaded to the wiki are outstanding, and I sincerely appreciate the effort you put forth with them. I have moved a couple of logs to "rename" them according to the style guide (more information is available here), but each time I've done so, it's been for very minor stuff. Per the current style guide standard, log page titles should be in the format of:
* [Storyline or Event Title, if applicable] - [Date] - [Title of Log, if applicable] (log)
* For example: Blood Son - 2020-01-01 - Excitement in Wehnimer's Landing (log)
This naming format helps logs to appear properly in various categories. I have also added Category:Logs to a couple of yours that were missing it. This makes sure that they are populated correctly in that category so everyone can easily find them if they do not have a direct link. Both of these are incredibly minor edits that are easily overlooked, so please don't be alarmed if I make changes like them to your logs.
Thank you for all of the updates you made to the images! They're all very lovely and I really enjoyed viewing them. I would recommend only adding one thing, and that is noting that you are the person who created them via Midjourney. You can reference yourself as your character, your account, or even just something as simple as, "AI art generated by me using Midjourney.com", so that it is clear that you are the creator behind them. None of the images need to be uploaded again, having the credit information on them as you did is more than enough.
I hope that what I shared about the difference between user pages and user talk pages made sense to you. Ultimately how you use your user talk page is up to you - I mostly didn't want to get your amazing record of information lost amid questions from mods or another user wanting to say thank you for doing such a great job with them. Also, just in case you ever need to do so, you can automatically "sign" anything you put on the wiki (which is very useful for user talk pages) with ~~~~ at the very end, which is how I added my "signature" to this comment. Thanks again for all of your help with making the wiki so great! If you ever have any other questions, feel free to reach out to me or another mod, or to ask in the #wiki-talk channel on the official Discord server. HOST-GSKEBECHET (talk) 08:46, 6 December 2022 (CST)

Thank you so much it's so neat to learn more and more about how to build in this wiki.TUMARA (talk) 08:29, 12 December 2022 (CST)

Images at Risk for Deletion

Hi there, TUMARA. I am reaching out to you about three images that you previously uploaded to the wiki. GSwiki now has a new policy for all images uploaded to it that is a little more detailed than the last time we communicated. Please see Gswiki:Policy#Copyrights for more information about that policy and the requirement to note image creators, what AI imaging software was used (if any), and if permission was granted by the creator to upload the image to the wiki. You have been really helpful in the past about making sure that your images always meet policy, which is greatly appreciated. I am flagging a few images generated by other players using AI art software. While it's fine to upload images created by someone else, you will have to note specifically if permission was granted by them to upload them to the wiki. Can you please confirm that for these three images:

  • File:Falkissingopal.png - The caption notes that Falvicar's player generated this image via AI art software. I did see that it was added by his player to his wiki article. Can you confirm that his player granted permission to upload it?
  • File:Falkissingopaltoon.png - The caption notes that Falvicar's player generated this image via AI art software. I did see that it was added by his player to his wiki article. Can you confirm that his player granted permission to upload it?
  • File:Redheaded Halfling.png - The caption notes that Aliashyrah's player generated this image. Can you confirm that her player granted permission to upload it?

If that information is not added within 7 days, these images will be deleted from the wiki. If you have any questions about this process or need more information about the updated policy for images, please reach out to the wiki team on the Gemstone [forum's wiki thread]. I did do a quick look back through all of your uploaded images, and everything else is in compliance with the current policy based on information that you had previously provided, so this should hopefully be the last time I reach out to you about older images like this. Thank you for your help and understanding. HOST-GSKEBECHET (talk) 09:09, 24 August 2023 (CDT)

Thank you so much for bringing this to my attention! I will take care of it right away. TUMARA (talk) 08:31, 25 August 2023 (CDT)