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==March 2015==
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| author = GS4-WYROM
| date = 2/27/2015
| subject = Options to buy more
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The arena is PvE. So you fight through a progression of creatures and deal with random hazards!

I had hoped to get info tonight, but I'll try for tomorrow.
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~'''Wyrom, APM'''

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| author = GS4-WYROM
| date = 2/28/2015
| subject = Duskruin Arena - A Primer
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Creatures scale to level, yes. Creatures are "tough" though, and have hit points depending on scale grouping.
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~'''Wyrom, APM'''

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| date = 3/7/2015
| subject = Duskruin Arena Testing
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''>>Btw, Wyrom, will there be the possibility of teams fighting team foes or is this purely solo???''

Just solo. Maybe down the road. But not for the initial release.
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~'''Wyrom, APM'''

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| date = 3/8/2015
| subject = spell restrictions?
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''>>The creatures in the arena are typically much higher level than you (10+) so that limits the effectiveness of some spells.''

Capped people will see the highest leveled creatures. It scales downward for lowbies (but everything is technically either like level or a bit higher).

''>>Do demons and animates follow in?''

No. No companions of any sort can go inside.
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~'''Wyrom, APM'''

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| date = 3/20/2015
| subject = Quick suggestion.
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''>>Thus far I LOVE the arena but would it be possibly to add a visible timer in when we're fighting? I'd like to get a general sense of how long I've been in there if I need to eat herbs and stuff.''

There is a 30 second warning that is now in bold. I'm a little leery on adding anything more due to how the arena works.
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~'''Wyrom, APM'''

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| author = GS4-WYROM
| date = 3/21/2015
| subject = Question - crits in the arena
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The crits/bleeding out feature is intended. That's why it says they may feign death. You can still crit them, but it takes a massive amount of damage. It's one of the few ways I could ensure the battles be challenging.
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~'''Wyrom, APM'''

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''>>Anyway, just bringing it to your attention. I've just now finally gotten to tinker around in here, so I don't have much else to add at this point. Overall, this is very fun and exciting. I'm enjoying it all, thank you.''

Sadly it's intentional for the creature to be pulled away.
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~'''Wyrom, APM'''

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| date = 3/24/2015
| subject = Duskruin Feedback
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Since the area is shut down for the night, I wanted to take a moment to address some feedback I've been hearing in various areas.

''>>Re: Difficulty''

I understand that difficulty isn't the same between all professions and levels. It's one of the hardest parts of balancing something like this and the Necropolis from EG. This was one of my biggest motivators to make bloodscrip a physical item so you weren't locked into using a single type of character.

The reason you can lop off the creatures head over and over is just a lack of control over the damage system and how I've turned off crits. Yes, I know you can still crit things, there are certain quirks to the system. But this is an attempt to level the playing field.

''>>Re: Progression of creatures''

I struggled with how to handle the matches for this event. It's probably the biggest reason for the delay in release. The original code was a one-on-one match against a VERY hard champion. You had up to 5 minutes to defeat it. You earned "crowd favor" points for doing feats in the arena. Don't think to yourself, "Oh that sounds so cool!" It was a guess the verb game through a rotating stock of verbs every 3 seconds, and spamming every single one of them caused you to lose points. There were subtle cues on which to use, via SENSE. It's something I hope to get back in after I can work out the horrible kinks. This would allow there to be SOMETHING else to do while you are in the arena. But doing this will also mean the time bonus will be changed dramatically and the bloodscrip earned will need to be re-calculated. I'm pretty proud of that formula I made. I read someone mentioned it "isn't good business" but actually it's the delicate weight of time and money. You can earn more by spending more time in the arena. Since both are a commodity, those that have more time than money can still maximize their profits.

''>>Re: Different matches''

If you look at the artwork, you'll see it's called Duskruin Arena: Bloodgames. That's because I do hope to revisit other types of matches. We came up with 3 forms of the event. One match scenario where you fight many creatures was definitely something I'd hope to do, and challenge players against each other for high scores. Not PvP, just a scoreboard. I talked about that in Platinum a little. I wanted it functional for this portion of the event, but no dice there.

Having multiple creatures and multiple characters in the arena at a time is just something I don't think I can work in without completely redoing all the mechanics. And I don't see that happening this time. Sorry on that!

But I missed 3 deadlines for Duskruin, and continually second guessing the mechanics were something I had to stop. And I always knew we'd have another form of the event, so I saved the idea for that.

''>>Closing notes''

So I kind of explained a lot of the inside details on everything. If and when we change the arena mechanics, it would be on a reboot, not in the middle of the run. The competition form of the event (scoreboard) won't really be much different than what you're seeing now, just another set of arenas you can enter for a different challenge. We'd likely keep both forms (the one you're seeing now and a new secondary challenge) out for you to enjoy, you just pick which you'd like.

I don't foresee the second form of this event happening anytime soon. But giving mini challenges during the arena matches is something I hope to address in April.
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~'''Wyrom, APM'''

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| date = 3/24/2015
| subject = Duskruin Feedback
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''>>Not sure what I would change, but in my opinion the traps need to be toned way down.''

Yeah, and the mini challenges will be a way to do that. But as it stands now, it's intended to go off the wall crazy toward the end because it's the risk of trying to maximize bloodscrip. I hope Roblar doesn't mind me talking about it, but his top score in Prime of 224 was an insane battle. He waited to the 30 second limit and got disabled pretty badly. I was thinking he was done for due to being RT locked. And literally, with less than 3 seconds before he lost, he berserks and wins. To score a perfect 225, you'd have to do that EVERY time at the end of each round, which I don't think is very feasible. And for that reason I think 224 will likely go untouched with the current setup.
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~'''Wyrom, APM'''

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| date = 3/29/2015
| subject = Duskruin Feedback
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I just rolled an update into the live instances that will help speed up the intro. If you've got the Duskruin Arena Hero, Heroine, or Champion title displaying, it will skip the introduction and jump right into combat within about 3 - 6 seconds! No more waiting out the whole minute intro after winning a match.
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~'''Wyrom, APM'''

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After watching over hundred matches the last couple of days, and hearing a lot of the concerns for the arena comparing to the sewers... I'm thinking of moving away entirely from the current setup for the arena matches. While the math works, it's still too slow, and the herb munching was never an intended feat.

My goal is to change the arena to be a kill count match. You keep going until the time limit is up, you die, or you surrender. The time would be drastically reduced to 5 minute matches. I'll also look into ways to offer mini challenges during the matches to aid people who want to avoid hazards.

What I want to know from all of you is, would you welcome this change?
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==May 2015==
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| date = 4/28/2015
| subject = Arena and Ratacombs Updates
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''>>Do the traps still get progressively more challenging later in the match? Or are they the same level of mini-game 'skill' throughout?''

You get a 30 second leeway where they are VERY slow. After that, it's random throughout to when they can fire. You can prevent them 2 different ways. Through the mini-game or by simply disabling the creature. I don't want to give too much about the mini-game away just yet.

''>>Any teasers on the new limited item, or any new items?''

Yes new items. I'll tease after we set the shops back up.
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~'''Wyrom, APM'''

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| date = 4/30/2015
| subject = Deeds
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One thing I changed this time is the need for deeds. You lost deeds in the arena, but you incurred no penalty if you had none. If you have no deeds, your death will be treated like a normal death, and you'll drop all your spells. Stock up, or Lorminstra awaits!
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~'''Wyrom, APM'''

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| date = 5/1/2015
| subject = Projectiles (Ammo and Thrown Weapons)
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I updated the arena mechanics to discard lodged arrows and thrown weapons before the creatures are pulled from the arena. They will be dropped to the ground where you stand. Make sure to grab them before you're moved or you die!
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~'''Wyrom, APM'''

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''>>If there's a mini-game or some methodology to avoiding the traps, there needs to be a hint or some sort of indicator that I can avoid it. I've tried Duskruin twice tonight and each time I'm mowing through opponents only to be randomly insta-gibbed by being pushed onto a pike. No messaging indicating I'm near a pike or being pushed toward a pike or pike-adjacent. Just "Wham, you're dead, go home."''

It says it in the intro. But you have to think about it. If you need to see the intro again, TITLE CLEAR [title] so you can see it. Or set your prename titles.
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~'''Wyrom, APM'''<noinclude>

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| subject = More Updates
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Added some safeguards for characters level 10 and below so creatures don't have an overwhelming number of health. Some creatures do have higher attack strengths though.

Fixed a typo in the intro.

Gave the ability for creatures to spawn with more mana.
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~'''Wyrom, APM'''

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I've added one more sanity check where creatures won't fire off a hazard as soon as they enter the arena.
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~'''Wyrom, APM'''

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It appears that right now, the max you can gain is 243. You could, technically, get to 245 with some extreme luck. When testing this, we can get to 250 when we are in GM mode, which is the figurative cap. However, getting 225+ bloodscrip regularly is not intended.

On the next reboot, the bloodscrips you can earn will be a little more tightly defined into a normal distribution, where earning closer to the max should be a σ of 3.
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~'''Wyrom, APM'''

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Traps intentionally take you out of hiding. That's working as intended. The hazards have been toned down way lower than I would have liked. So while I can understand the frustration if you can't figure out the mini-game puzzle, it's really easy to avoid now.
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~'''Wyrom, APM'''

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| subject = Don't bother with Arena for a low level caster (10 or so) - Scaling it terrible
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Lots of assumptions and anecdotal information being thrown around here. So guess it's time to squash that. Characters under level 25 actually had a lot easier of a time in the arena. Champions spawned by characters 25 and under had 1/3rd the amount of blood as a capped character. Characters level 10 or under always got an extra bonus of making every creature that spawned in the arena with 100 less blood (that's on top of that 1/3rd for champions).

Creature level is always determined by progression in the arena, but the first 5 rounds creatures are between -3 to 1 level higher than the player. It slowly scales up until the last 5 rounds, where it's between 5 and 10 levels.

Earning 200 bloodscrip means a player managed to kill all 25 creatures. Anyone scoring 192, managed to kill 24. Each creature was worth 8 bloodscrip. This is changing in the next variation of the arena to add more emphasis on a few different factors of the challenge. The time bonus is going to be greatly reduced, but you'll have chances to earn other bonuses. The cap will still remain 250, but this time it will be achievable. The reason the arena's figurative 250 isn't able to happen is because you're losing on average 35 seconds for creature clean ups and the new creature entering.

I think those that felt underwhelmed because they couldn't complete the arena or struggled with defeating all 25 will feel a little more confident in the next edition.
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~'''Wyrom, APM'''<section end=savedpost2015-05 />
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==July 2015==
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''>>Re: Dispelling''

Both spells will be dispelled at the beginning of every 3 second interval that the arena mechanics use. I plan on testing it some, but I might be able to leave 506 alone. The problem really boiled down to 515.

''>>I am looking forward to relearning a new arena, but you mentioned 12 opponents and at least 3 minute timer for one opponent with speed bonuses sounding reversed like the first release.''

The timer is a total timer, and that was the case last time. So you have 6+ minutes to defeat all 25 opponents. You can spend the entire time on one opponent if you're not very good at killing.
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~'''Wyrom, APM'''

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You appraise the situation and notice the kobold servant may press you into a spike, you could try to lean out of the way!

You set yourself up to lean out of the kobold servant's way!

A horned kobold servant raises his fists to the sky.

A horned kobold servant rubs his hands together!<br>
A horned kobold servant suddenly looks more powerful.

A horned kobold servant spins around repeatedly and then whines, "Oh nooooes! Where'd that rolton go?!"

A horned kobold servant attempts to press you into a spike, but you lean out of the way!<br>
... 20 points of damage!<br>
Attack punctures the eye and connects with something re.ally vital!<br>
The kobold servant crumples to the floor motionless.<br>
The deep blue glow leaves a horned kobold servant.<br>
The light blue glow leaves a horned kobold servant.<br>
The powerful look leaves a horned kobold servant.<br>
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An announcer boasts, "Combatant Wyrom vanquished the kobold servant!" A gornar-shackled ogre lumbers in and drags the servant out of the arena, ridding him of any lodged projectiles or equipment!<br>
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An announcer shouts, "Send in another one!" An iron portcullis is raised and a craggy fog beetle enters the arena!
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~'''Wyrom, APM'''

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506 and 1035 are still intact. But the stress test needed to know if they are okay won't be present in Platinum.
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~'''Wyrom, APM'''

''>>They call him Wyrom, not afraid to get dirty; work all day, in game by 5:30; loresongs eloquent, item embellishment, double speed development... ~Silvean''

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''>>Oh, good to know, Wyrom. You threw a pretty fat nerf at bolting wizards when you removed rapid fire. Aside from the immolate (which requires heavy fire lore to be effective!), wizards don't have spells that bypass huge health pools if they can't crit kill with a standard AS bolt attack. Some of those champions in the previous arena required hundreds of mana. It simply wouldn't be feasible without a better way to conserve mana on the easier opponents. Rapid shock filled the gap nicely. Now? Well, hopefully if we can't hit them we can use this new mechanic to gain a crit kill at least.''

No, the champions aren't crittable, but 20 of the 25 creatures are. The issue with Rapid Fire isn't to nerf a profession, it's a performance issue that was arising when people were pounding the arena. Only people who were scoring over 240 bloodscrip were causing the issue.

But I'm not a terribly big fan of woe is me arguments when there are tools not being utilized. I'd not consider myself a veteran wizard player, so very limited tactics. No third-party software, no macros, no scripts, I set out as a level 92 wizard only 1x in HP to test how hard it would be as a wizard. I didn't use SIGNS of SYMBOLS. I did prepare and make about 10 imbeds and made sure I had an arsenal of wands fully recharged. I rarely had an issue with mana concerns. First few times I was missing the speed bonus being maximized, but after about 3 more times I was able to get into swing of things and hit the cap on the speed timer (yes there is a cap this time so it's not AS pressing to finish each creature in 3 seconds).

Given that, if I were to add 515 back in, it would come with a disclaimer that by using that spell, any disconnects or freezing issues that you experience in-game would result in no refunds of any bloodscrip or dueling slips. My only concern are other players who get booted due to it. From my understanding though it's not actually a game performance issue coming from our end. It's something to do with Lich in the room checking conditions. But I don't know what.
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~'''Wyrom, APM'''

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| date = 7/21/2015
| subject = Platinum Beta Testing
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In my testing, I mostly used spells at everything but champions. Once a champion came out, I tossed down a few disablers and switched to wands only. A champion typically wiped out an entire gold or metal wand (I used stock stuff at full charges). I could leech early arena foes, so I was pretty much at max mana until around round 15. Toward the end I was nearly tapped entirely on mana, but that's without using signs or symbols. If I was using sign of wracking, I'd be set for sure.

Switching gears to a 15mil post cap rogue (a copy of my character), if I removed my stamina regen enhancives, I actually struggled. I disable a ton in the arena, so I couldn't keep my stamina up and popped my muscles at least 3 times (I carry some imbeds to fix that). I have a hard time hitting the 243 number from the previous run of the arena. I didn't test this time as a rogue. I think just capped archers probably have the hardest time in the arena.

Anywho, the arena isn't suppose to be a walk in the park. Even with all the alpha testing and beta testing, it never prepared me for how hardcore people in Prime would be. And like I said, this (hopefully) last update to the arena mechanics will be good. It's not easier than last time, but you can slow down a little and enjoy yourself. I don't think many people in Platinum have really figured out how to hit the 250 cap in bloodscrip. There is a whole new thing involved to get the final 40 points.
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~'''Wyrom, APM'''

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''>>I have to say this is a false argument or I question whether you really tested those champions. Wracking wasn't really a possibility at all, even with max stats, skills, enhancives, and max offensive spells (over 600 sustainable AS) because of the champion's high AS and the fact that if you wracked, bolt AS plummets. More than a handful of those champions weren't able to be immolated at all, so a bad luck of the draw on the champion and you could be stuck twiddling your thumbs trying to stay turtled for several minutes until your spirit regenerated.''

You can certainly question my testing. I've documented over 500 hours of coding and testing into Duskruin. Question all you'd like. The champions from Duskruin are akin to the end boss at the Necropolis. In fact, the code is about 90% the same. I ran into trouble a few times, I died a whole lot during my testing as several professions. But to say it's not possible and still shoot down the feasibility to use wands is kind of odd to me. I was able to save myself hundreds of mana using wands.

''>>I would ask you to test a capped wizard and see how things generate. Even with all of the aforementioned spells and skills, at 3x HP, 2x mana control, and carrying an unlimited supply of charged blue crystals, rapid fire was necessary to grind through 25 champions with my items and mana, and I won't even mention how many enhancives I've had for years burned out.''

You only have 5 champions, the other 20 can be crit killed. This has been the case ever since there were 25. In the original set up, all 5 were crit-proof.

''>>I don't consider a fully charged wand per every champion to be sustainable. There are bandaids and then there are crutches and this is even beyond that. That's like suggesting I should have carried a stock of 6000+ charged wands just to get through the normal grind of the arena.''

Why? I used about 5 a whole match. It's an extension of my mana pool. The bigger issue was you couldn't sacrifice seconds to score high. That's been altered so the time bonus isn't so crucial.

''>>Given that I experienced MAYBE 3-4 disconnects over 1200+ runs, to say that people are taking advantage of the lag and getting reissued slips sounds beyond ridiculous. I'd honestly rather have lag than deal with no rapid fire. No, I don't use Lich, and no, I don't just sit on the enter key to spam rapid fire or script it so it does any more damage to other people's lag time than normal hunting does with a few casts per creature.''

No one is taking advantage of the lag. But people who aren't casting the spell were also experiencing issues. And Rapid Fire might not be the only cause. Platinum doesn't generate enough interest to really help me stress test it. I'm the one that needs to make the tough decisions to help fix the issue. We might get to Prime and find out it's also Haste. I hope it's not.

''>>Yes, adding a game within the arena game may be fun, but to say we should "slow down a little and enjoy ourselves" is also a bit hypocritical given the sheer amount of grinding that any decent item takes to acquire. Most people don't have MORE time to put into the arena, however fun it may be. Maybe you're saying everyone should buy even less stuff, but then just say that instead of saying we should be happy to just take longer to get it, because that's not achievable for many.''

The event was never intended to be a grind-fest. In fact, the higher end items were added after player interest. Most things can be purchased after a few simple matches. Obviously "decent" items are going to vary, but buying a single item compared to a dozen is a lot different, as well as a player decision. We're glad that many of you enjoy this set up. But it's definitely not hypocritical of me to say my main interest is that you're entertained. That comes first in my book. The event started as a social experience, with people being able to watch you in the arena. My goal is to make sure it stays there for a lot of you. Some of you are going to enjoy the hunt for the best items. We're offering that too.

''>>I just don't understand the idea that the goal here is getting through the grind. I get it from the player's perspective, because that's the task that was presented, but is grinding supposed to be fun now? Can't we go back to pay quests that are more entertainment and less grind? I guess we're suckers for it since we all apparently are willing to pay for it, but I'd much prefer something more entertaining in an arena environment and less grindy.''

Pretty sure I've answered this already, but it's not intended to be a grind. It's a cheaper social event that allows you to buy in to the level you care for. We've had a lot of events over the years. And we'll continue to make things that please different people. Not every event is for every player.

''>>So are they beta testing the new limited release items? Any hints on what we can expect that is new(or changed) in the shops?''

No, they aren't beta testing shops. They didn't get the shop updates. Those come Friday for all instances.

''>>Or any talk about the new limited high end item(s)?''

I'll be posting about that tomorrow and how it will all work.

''>>I don't know what to say. You seem to have ignored a key part of my question toward you. The fact that you seem to have relied entirely upon bolt spells to do your killing in the arena indicates to me that you never encountered any champions that were unhittable by bolts. How is it possible that you did not encounter this but I did when I have just about the highest bolt AS a wizard can possibly have?''

I never tested this as a wizard (much) prior to the updates. But the updates have made champions a little more manageable. Also, there is a new feature that does help offset some issues (but they can be time consuming). I've mentioned this a few times. All the creatures are a little more manageable in the arena. No, I haven't given you all the details, but some of it will be seen in just a few days. I don't think the majority of Platinum players have discovered all of the tricks though.
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~'''Wyrom, APM'''<noinclude>

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</noinclude>{{saved-post
| category = Paid Events: Adventures, Quests, and SimuCoins
| topic = Duskruin Arena
| messagenum = [http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Paid%20Events:%20Adventures,%20Quests,%20and%20SimuCoins/Duskruin%20Arena/view/1579 1579]
| author = GS4-WYROM
| date = 7/25/2015
| subject = Updates
}}
First of all, big thank you to everyone who helped test some things tonight. It was extremely helpful.

So here are some updates.<br>
+Due to solving some arena lag issues, you were regaining 1 second per "round" in the arena, which made the arena about 100 seconds quicker (the ACTUAL time it should have been). So the intro messaging has been updated to state you have about 8 minutes, not 10. The exact is about 8 minutes and 15 seconds +/- 15 seconds.<br>
+Grasp from the Grave has been disabled from the arena. Anything that is a creature by nature cannot be in the arena.<br>
+Rapid Fire has returned, but for wizards only.

To help clear up some misconceptions, the dodging traps bonus (which is needed to score 250) doesn't require you to wait for it to happen. You just need to do it.

Good luck in the arena!
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~'''Wyrom, APM'''

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| topic = Duskruin Arena
| messagenum = [http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Paid%20Events:%20Adventures,%20Quests,%20and%20SimuCoins/Duskruin%20Arena/view/1653 1653]
| author = GS4-WYROM
| date = 7/28/2015
| subject = Please do not allow 720 in the arena
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Okay, open voids, webs, darkness, and light will all properly be cleaned out when entering an arena. Please post any ill behaviors, since this was a quick fix while I was doing a few other things.
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==August 2015==
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| category = Paid Events: Adventures, Quests, and SimuCoins
| topic = Duskruin Arena
| messagenum = [http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Paid%20Events:%20Adventures,%20Quests,%20and%20SimuCoins/Duskruin%20Arena/view/2178 2178]
| author = GS4-WYROM
| date = 8/22/2015
| subject = Grouped level ranges?
}}
Yeah, sorry, I should have been more clear. It's 1 - 25, 26 - 50, 51 - 75, 76 - 100. You're not getting a level 100 difficulty just because you're in that grouping. Each creature is scaled to your level, and progressively gets harder. All those level ranges do is determine the health of the creature. Characters under level 10 have a minor handicap to difficulty in general.
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~'''Wyrom, APM'''

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| topic = Duskruin Arena
| messagenum = [http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Paid%20Events:%20Adventures,%20Quests,%20and%20SimuCoins/Duskruin%20Arena/view/2225 2225]
| author = GS4-WYROM
| date = 8/23/2015
| subject = Arena Hazards and Timing of Creatures
}}
Okay, so got to the bottom of this one. It's an interesting one. The routine I've coded in that protects you from being hit by a hazard once a creature enters is now what causes the creature to be able to do this. Once a hazard has been either dodged or inflicted, the hazard resets in 4 seconds. The moment it resets, the creature can pull it off again, which is instantaneous. You would not even have a millisecond to respond, since the routine fires all at once. Prior to me making it protect you on a fresh creature, you'd have a chance to dodge. But now that the creature got hit, the gloves are off.

I'm going to see what I can do, but there might very well be nothing I can do without reverting it to a fresh creature killing you instantly, which I won't be doing.
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~'''Wyrom, APM'''

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| topic = Duskruin Arena
| messagenum = [http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Paid%20Events:%20Adventures,%20Quests,%20and%20SimuCoins/Duskruin%20Arena/view/2321 2321]
| author = GS4-WYROM
| date = 8/25/2015
| subject = Disconnects and No Packages
}}
Just wanted to put out an official post. If you complete an arena match and don't die, you should always have a package at the end. If you don't, it's due to a rare screamer with prize creation. The prize isn't ever anything good, so it's not like you're losing out on a urglaes claidhmore or something (it's a temp resistance item). It's under 1% of all prizes generated. If this happens to you, email me, I'll refund you a slip, or give you a flat bloodscrip amount to compensate you for your troubles.

If you get disconnected in the arena, again, email me. I'll refund you a slip. I have a preventative measure ready to be deployed, but it will likely need to be tested some before I can make it live.

If you're posted about any of these recently, please email me so I can get with you and get you back in good standings.
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~'''Wyrom, APM'''

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| topic = Duskruin Arena
| messagenum = [http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Paid%20Events:%20Adventures,%20Quests,%20and%20SimuCoins/Duskruin%20Arena/view/2431 2431]
| author = GS4-WYROM
| date = 8/30/2015
| subject = Logging Off, Disconnects, or Freezing in the Arena
}}
If for whatever reason, you're booted out of the game in the arena, when you log in, you'll be credited with 50 bloodscrip for now on. You will be messaged when you log back in.
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==April 2016==
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| topic = Duskruin Arena
| messagenum = [http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Paid%20Events:%20Adventures,%20Quests,%20and%20SimuCoins/Duskruin%20Arena/view/2933 2933]
| author = SIMU-WYROM
| date = 4/22/2016
| subject = Quick Arena Update
}}
I've removed the centaur, shan, and hallowed champions from the arena. They were doing things they shouldn't be doing too often in Prime.
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'''Wyrom, APM'''

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| topic = Duskruin Arena
| messagenum = [http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Paid%20Events:%20Adventures,%20Quests,%20and%20SimuCoins/Duskruin%20Arena/view/2935 2935]
| author = SIMU-WYROM
| date = 4/22/2016
| subject = Quick Arena Update
}}
A goblin champion has also been added.
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'''Wyrom, APM'''

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| topic = Duskruin Arena
| messagenum = [http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Paid%20Events:%20Adventures,%20Quests,%20and%20SimuCoins/Duskruin%20Arena/view/2960 2960]
| author = SIMU-WYROM
| date = 4/23/2016
| subject = Quick Arena Update
}}
Treasure chests granted from spell 717 should be resolved. That was never intended. Sorry sorcerers.
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'''Wyrom, APM'''

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| topic = Duskruin Arena
| messagenum = [http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Paid%20Events:%20Adventures,%20Quests,%20and%20SimuCoins/Duskruin%20Arena/view/2976 2976]
| author = SIMU-WYROM
| date = 4/23/2016
| subject = Quick Arena Update
}}
''>>Treasure was also being generated by either an empath or cleric spell that leaves no body, just treasure.''

This should be resolved with that.

''>>Re: Spell 418''

I've made it so when you enter the dueling sands, any nodes created by 418 will be removed.
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'''Wyrom, APM'''

{{saved-post
| category = Paid Events: Adventures, Quests, and SimuCoins
| topic = Duskruin Arena
| messagenum = [http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Paid%20Events:%20Adventures,%20Quests,%20and%20SimuCoins/Duskruin%20Arena/view/2979 2979]
| author = SIMU-WYROM
| date = 4/23/2016
| subject = Quick Arena Update
}}
This may have came off wrong. Any OLD nodes created will be removed. That's so you can lay down a fresh one. Had an email how they can drop mid-arena match and then you're screwed. Thought this was a good thing.
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'''Wyrom, APM'''<section end=savedpost2016-04 />

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==August 2016==
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| category = Paid Events: Adventures, Quests, and SimuCoins
| topic = Duskruin Arena
| messagenum = [http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Paid%20Events:%20Adventures,%20Quests,%20and%20SimuCoins/Duskruin%20Arena/view/4510 4510]
| author = SIMU-WYROM
| date = 8/29/2016
| subject = Disconnects (Duskruin)
}}
''>>Can we get the 125 scrip average of the sewers in case of disconnecting in the arena? There should be no argument against this since if this happens, you already forfeit your package item and there are no bloodrunes or moonshards in the arena. Then you have to suffer listening to the announcer again for another 60 seconds+.''

Okay. Logoffs and disconnects in the arena now award 125 bloodscrip.

You can now SHOUT during the introduction to speed it up and get on with the show. I'll add something in about SHOUT with the arena guard when you're escorted into the sands.
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'''Wyrom, PM'''

{{saved-post
| category = Paid Events: Adventures, Quests, and SimuCoins
| topic = Duskruin Arena
| messagenum = [http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Paid%20Events:%20Adventures,%20Quests,%20and%20SimuCoins/Duskruin%20Arena/view/4512 4512]
| author = SIMU-WYROM
| date = 8/29/2016
| subject = Disconnects (Duskruin)
}}
I was quickly reminded why 125 wouldn't work. The total has been adjusted to 100 bloodscrip for a logoff or a disconnect. This is now the least you can gain in the arena as well if you lose.

Messaging in the arena has been adjusted appropriately.

Sorry for the change-a-roo!
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'''Wyrom, PM'''

{{saved-post
| category = Paid Events: Adventures, Quests, and SimuCoins
| topic = Duskruin Arena
| messagenum = [http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Paid%20Events:%20Adventures,%20Quests,%20and%20SimuCoins/Duskruin%20Arena/view/4515 4515]
| author = SIMU-WYROM
| date = 8/29/2016
| subject = Disconnects (Duskruin)
}}
''>>yeah, it would have been easier for sewer runners to just disconnect in the Arena to make the max scrip for a sewer run. No items.. but then again some sewer runners don't care about that.''

Yeah, there are a few issues with going to the sewer average. I wasn't thinking about it too heavily and was like, "125, sure!" But yeah. I feel 100 is a good compromise.

If you've had some disconnects this run (and this run only) and would like to be compensated for the difference, email me. I'm going to need dates (exact) and times (ballpark) so I can just go through the logs to confirm.
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'''Wyrom, PM'''

{{saved-post
| category = Paid Events: Adventures, Quests, and SimuCoins
| topic = Duskruin Arena
| messagenum = [http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Paid%20Events:%20Adventures,%20Quests,%20and%20SimuCoins/Duskruin%20Arena/view/4604 4604]
| author = SIMU-WYROM
| date = 8/31/2016
| subject = 250 bloodscript achievement variables
}}
The exact formula hasn't been released, but the variables were never a secret. So here you go!

Scoring branches off depending on a number of factors. Winning is beating all 25 creatures. If you win, you get a time bonus for how much time is left on the clock. If you lose, you get a showman bonus for how long you lasted with a single creature. This has a capped bonus so lasting on creature one won't get you more than the cap and killing everything too quickly won't get you a big bonus.

You get points for dodging the traps in the arena, again this is capped, so you can't just dodge traps to earn max bloodscrip.

If you surrender, you lose any time, showman, or dodging bonuses.

Dying doesn't give a scoring penalty, but you can lose your spells without deeds and you there is a time factor to slow you down some.

Winning gives you points.

Finally, you earn points based on all creatures killed. There is no cap, meaning every creature counts.

That is it.
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'''Wyrom, PM'''

{{saved-post
| category = Paid Events: Adventures, Quests, and SimuCoins
| topic = Duskruin Arena
| messagenum = [http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Paid%20Events:%20Adventures,%20Quests,%20and%20SimuCoins/Duskruin%20Arena/view/4650 4650]
| author = SIMU-WYROM
| date = 9/1/2016
| subject = Disconnects
}}
Winning should '''always''' be the best in terms of bloodscrip amounts. Due to the bug existing for 5 runs (May, July, August of 2015 and April and August of 2016), I might change how the showman formula should work. But it's working as intended right now. I'll take a look at it a little later today.

And just to answer a concern, nothing at all was changed with creature difficulty. That hasn't been changed at all in a long time.
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'''Wyrom, PM'''

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| topic = Duskruin Arena
| messagenum = [http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Paid%20Events:%20Adventures,%20Quests,%20and%20SimuCoins/Duskruin%20Arena/view/4709 4709]
| author = SIMU-WYROM
| date = 9/3/2016
| subject = Arena Scoring Update
}}
Okay, after fixing the bug that was causing end creatures to scale oddly with the score, I wasn't happy with the result. While it should never make sense to lose the arena to earn more bloodscrip, the difference between getting to creature 24 and winning shouldn't be that great.

After I stare at the formula some more, I'll be rolling this change into the live instances tomorrow sometime in the late morning/early afternoon.

So what does this change mean?

Well the "showman" bonus as we know it is going out the window. The idea about this bonus was if you had an incredible hard time in the arena, but could last until the timer was up, you should get rewarded. This was to offer an incentive to lower level characters in the scoring model. A sort of handicap. But this was when the minimum bloodscrip earned was 50. Since we increased this to 100, this bonus isn't really working as intended anymore. And to top it off, anyone who would benefit from it is no longer seeing it due to the 100 bloodscrip minimum.

Instead it will be broken down into 4 parts.
*If you win, you will earn a flat bonus for defeating 5 champions and a time bonus. This is similar to how it currently is. Most everyone will see an uptick in scoring here.
*If you run out of time, you will be evaluated on how many champions you killed. This is an uptick for people making it to the last 5 opponents.
*If you die, your score will be evaluated and take how long you lasted as well as how many creatures you vanquished. This mostly resembles the old "showman" bonus. People making it to the last opponent and dying will see an uptick in scoring, as will people who can't kill much but last a long time before getting whacked.
*If you surrender, you will no longer lose the dodging trap bonus you receive. Surrendering penalties were put in place due to potential abuse, but given both the minimum earned being increased and the time factor required to get a large dodging bonus, this penalty is no longer warranted.

Nothing is changing to how many bloodscrip earned per kill, the winning bonus, or how the dodging bonus are calculated.

So again, I'll roll this in after some final checks tomorrow after a night's rest and a few cups of coffee.

I'll also have a fix for spells not dropping without deeds. Stock up.
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==April 2017==
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<section begin=savedpost2017-04 />{{saved-post
| category = Paid Events: Adventures, Quests, and SimuCoins
| topic = Duskruin Arena
| messagenum = [http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Paid%20Events:%20Adventures,%20Quests,%20and%20SimuCoins/Duskruin%20Arena/view/5821 5821]
| author = SIMU-WYROM
| date = 4/21/2017
| subject = Arena Packages
}}
We updated the packages this time around to always reward the same order of items as long as certain objectives are complete. You will no longer see the content of your package before actually opening it and looking in it.

If you manage to get lucky enough, the best possible outcome is...

In the winnings package you see a bloodstained promissory note, a lump of golvern ore, a vultite claidhmore, a four-ringed metal pendant and some crisp parchment bloodscrip.

Promissory notes are now awarded every time you get a package, but are worth half last run. Saturated experience is now always equal to your score as long as you're not already saturated. This is up from previous runs.

There are no secrets to spawning the automatons, they are a random boss spawn and a bit on the rare side. We will be monitoring their spawning and adjust if necessary. The mini quest involved will need a bit of discovery.
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'''Wyrom, PM'''

{{saved-post
| category = Paid Events: Adventures, Quests, and SimuCoins
| topic = Duskruin Arena
| messagenum = [http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Paid%20Events:%20Adventures,%20Quests,%20and%20SimuCoins/Duskruin%20Arena/view/5868 5868]
| author = SIMU-WYROM
| date = 4/22/2017
| subject = Automaton Fix
}}
The plain metal automatons shouldn't spawn anymore. They weren't taking anything away from you, it was just attempting to spawn a second type that you already spawned.

The frequency of the uncommon metals has been decreased and the frequency of the rarer metals has been increased. The rare metals are intended to be rare though, so keep that in mind. We'll keep monitoring the drop rates over the weekend.
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'''Wyrom, PM'''

{{saved-post
| category = Paid Events: Adventures, Quests, and SimuCoins
| topic = Duskruin Arena
| messagenum = [http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Paid%20Events:%20Adventures,%20Quests,%20and%20SimuCoins/Duskruin%20Arena/view/6466 6466]
| author = SIMU-WYROM
| date = 4/27/2017
| subject = Ore, Totems, and the Archaeologist
}}
In case it's not known (some people have figured it out), the dwarven archaeologist is trading ore for totems. The totems he trades cannot be traded for bloodscrip. Trade wisely!
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==August 2017==
{{#section:Duskruin/saved posts August 2017|savedpost}}

<section begin=savedpost2017-08 />{{saved-post
| category = Paid Events: Adventures, Quests, and SimuCoins
| topic = Duskruin Arena
| messagenum = [http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Paid%20Events:%20Adventures,%20Quests,%20and%20SimuCoins/Duskruin%20Arena/view/7313 7313]
| author = SIMU-WYROM
| date = 8/20/2017
| subject = Traps in the Arena and Lower Level Combatants
}}
While nothing in the arena changed when it came to traps, I've gone ahead and changed the logic on how traps will activate. The update will appear to slow down traps by about 50% (or 2 seconds) on average.

Investigating some of the bugs that came through, I do want to help clear up some misunderstandings.

If the creature is disabled, the trap won't go off.<br>
If you are disabled, it's a 100% success for the trap to hit you.<br>
If the creature isn't injured, traps won't hit you.<br>
In team arenas, it chooses a random person.<br>
In team arenas, you only have to dodge once, not three times.<br>
Traps taking you out of hiding is intended.

For combatants level 33 and under, there has been a reduction in health on opponents. For non-champions, that will be a reduction in about 33% of their health on average. For champions, it is between a 10% to 66% less health(earlier champions being 66%). This should also help low level team matches get to the halfway point a little easier.
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'''Wyrom, PM'''

{{saved-post
| category = Paid Events: Adventures, Quests, and SimuCoins
| topic = Duskruin Arena
| messagenum = [http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Paid%20Events:%20Adventures,%20Quests,%20and%20SimuCoins/Duskruin%20Arena/view/7426 7426]
| author = SIMU-WYROM
| date = 8/21/2017
| subject = New Automatons
}}
Several new automatons are now available in the arena!

You can run into black ora, gornar, urglaes, veniom, and krodera! Magic users, be very careful with the krodera automatons, they resists quite a bit of magic!
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==June 2018==
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| category = Paid Events: Adventures, Quests, and SimuCoins
| topic = Duskruin Arena
| messagenum = [http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Paid%20Events:%20Adventures,%20Quests,%20and%20SimuCoins/Duskruin%20Arena/view/9561 9561]
| author = SIMU-WYROM
| date = 6/29/2018
| subject = Corpse Removal and Timer Bonus
}}
Recently, it was brought to my attention that there was something people were gaining an infinite advantage of in Duskruin Arena to speed up the way the arena mechanics work. This really didn't get much attention in prior runs because the solo matches could only be sped up by a max of 100 seconds. But with the team matches, it could speed it up by 300 seconds. This falls into an exploit. It's an unintended way to consistently bypass a mechanic that was put in place and balanced. The item that was causing it were the ShadowDeath items.

We can debate that there are other items that can achieve this and certain spells that cause this, but there isn't a means to do this routinely and consistently that I am aware of. We can also talk about the advantages of having better gear in the arena overall being unfair as well because you can kill more efficiently. But this isn't about killing creatures better or surviving. It's about getting around an intended mechanic that was put in place. Several runs ago, we extended the timer from 5 minutes to 8 minutes to account for the corpse removal slow down and some minor lag from tons of combat formulas happening.

It's too late in the run to make a drastic change, but moving forward, the bloodscrip time bonus will be removed and replaced with something that can be measured on your combat efficiency. Since corpse removal happens in a few other areas, we'll just drop this controversial side effect of a timer high score. I'm not sure what that will be. For the remaining run, I'll revert the changes made on the ShadowDeath items.

The timer title will remain in place, and your fastest times will still be measured.
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'''Wyrom, PM'''

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| topic = Duskruin Arena
| messagenum = [http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Paid%20Events:%20Adventures,%20Quests,%20and%20SimuCoins/Duskruin%20Arena/view/9570 9570]
| author = SIMU-WYROM
| date = 6/29/2018
| subject = Corpse Removal and Timer Bonus
}}
''>>I think people would have been less angry about the nerf if you had posted as the nerf was implemented, instead of having to be called out on it by multiple people and posting days later. When will staff get that the playerbase does not like stealth nerfs (even if it is actually a bug fix and you think people are taking advantage of a situation)? I get that you're incredibly busy, but better communication is needed.

We don't typically announce game mechanics abuse bugs as being resolved on the forums too often, which is exactly what this is. No, people aren't in violation of POLICY over it, but it was circumventing a normal game mechanics to speed up the game play and in some cases, maximizing returns where they wouldn't have been achieved. You don't find these announced in many games, because it shines a spotlight on the situation and pushes people to find another way. You can see this over in the Items and Inventory topic when it was explained you can still bypass the mechanics with a void bomb.

I realize you might say communication could be better, but GemStone IV communication is thorough and reactive, again, comparing to what's out there. Dev communicates often. We take player feedback into heavy consideration. We push out quality of life improvements during live events almost always. A large chunk of our GameMasters participate with players daily. You have almost constant communication from the Product Manager here on the forums, Discord, or in game. I'm massively available.

Now you might want specifics communicated with you that help you personally or help the community as a whole, but our engagement level is pretty high considering our size. You might wish we were more proactive when it came to pushing communication out. But there are a limited number of people who actually do this sort of stuff, and that's not by design, but an unfortunate side effect with how we work (no centralization).

Yes, I'm busy, but I still take the time to work things out.
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==December 2018==
<section begin=savedpost2018-12 />{{saved-post
| category = Paid Events: Adventures, Quests, and SimuCoins
| topic = Duskruin Arena
| messagenum = [http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Paid%20Events:%20Adventures,%20Quests,%20and%20SimuCoins/Duskruin%20Arena/view/10060 10060]
| author = SIMU-WYROM
| date = 12/12/2018
| subject = Arena Updates
}}
In June, I mentioned I would be pushing forward a new mechanic in the arena that removed the time element from being such a big factor in earning max rewards. Moving forward, time is no longer part of your scoring for the arena. The only thing the timer is there for is to control the pace and difficulty of the arena. Your score is now purely dodging (50), defeating opponents (175), and winning (25). Surrendering will also have steeper penalties to rewards. Keep in mind, you can also get 10% more in solo arena matches if you have successful completed the Silent Investors missions in the Bank Heist for a maximum of 275 bloodscrip.

Another change this run is to how the timer reacts when creature clean up occurs and new creatures are summoned. The arena mechanics are based on a 4 second interval. When creatures are pulled out of the arena when they die and when new creatures are summoned, this will no longer count against your timer. Slower combatants should see some improvement on getting through all 25 foes. This also means that the arena can get as long as (approximately) ten minutes, but not so much additional combat time (if that makes sense).
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'''Wyrom, PM'''

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| topic = Duskruin Arena
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| author = SIMU-WYROM
| date = 12/15/2018
| subject = Arena Updates
}}
Some more updates!

The timer for when creatures were being removed and new creatures were summoned was sometimes ticking when certain criteria was met. I've gone ahead and made sure it always pauses when running clean up/summon routines.

I've updated the intro messaging to say ten minutes instead of eight, because it can take up to 10 minutes now if you make it to the 25th creature and fail.

Champions will no longer spawn with bows due to DS numbers that were getting too high.

I've added a DISMISS feature that will allow you to get rid of the dead. There is no RT and it will try to take out all the dead at once. But if there is a dead rat, an alive rat, and a dead rat, it will only grab the first one. You'll need to DISMISS THIRD RAT first if you want it to clean them all up. You always need to DISMISS the dead ones for this to work.
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'''Wyrom, PM'''

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| topic = Duskruin Arena
| messagenum = [http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Paid%20Events:%20Adventures,%20Quests,%20and%20SimuCoins/Duskruin%20Arena/view/10272 10272]
| author = SIMU-WYROM
| date = 12/20/2018
| subject = Arena Updates
}}
Creatures now are cleaned up upon them being defeated. Big thank you to Estild for adding some tools to creature death so I could add this to the arena.

DISMISS still works and has been updated to be just DISMISS instead of DISMISS [creature]. This shouldn't be needed anymore, but in cases where the ogre doesn't clean up the creatures upon death (special death situations or specific creatures not being handled automatically) this still will exist.

If you do notice a specific creature that doesn't get automatically cleaned up or a specific way creatures are dying that seems to leave them behind, please post about it.
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'''Wyrom, PM'''

{{saved-post
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| topic = Duskruin Arena
| messagenum = [http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Paid%20Events:%20Adventures,%20Quests,%20and%20SimuCoins/Duskruin%20Arena/view/10272 10272]
| author = SIMU-WYROM
| date = 12/20/2018
| subject = Arena Updates
}}
Okay, I added a very short timer to the auto-cleanup to make sure no one's lodged arrows or hurlable were being carted away due to how the game handles that being out of order.

You can still DISMISS if you want it quicker.

>>To include cast-RT, please. I had several instances of seeing "wait 2 seconds" after the next one came in.

The timer is just flat RT. You may still be in RT when the creature comes in.
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'''Wyrom, PM'''

{{saved-post
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| topic = Duskruin Arena
| messagenum = [http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Paid%20Events:%20Adventures,%20Quests,%20and%20SimuCoins/Duskruin%20Arena/view/10315 10315]
| author = SIMU-WYROM
| date = 12/20/2018
| subject = Arena Updates
}}
Dodging no long has an impact on your bloodscrip. Hazards will still happen, so using WATCH and performing the right action will still be needed.

At this point, I think everyone is now better off.
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==February 2019==
<section begin=savedpost2019-02 />{{saved-post
| category = Paid Events: Adventures, Quests, and SimuCoins
| topic = Duskruin Arena
| messagenum = [http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Paid%20Events:%20Adventures,%20Quests,%20and%20SimuCoins/Duskruin%20Arena/view/10636 10636]
| author = SIMU-WYROM
| date = 2/19/2019
| subject = Arena Update: RT Locked Opponents
}}
I've added a better check to see if the opponent you're facing has been placed into RT by a disabler like feint. If they are in more RT than usual, they cannot perform a hazard (traps). Keep in mind, they can do hazards when they are in their normal routine RT from attacking.
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'''Wyrom, PM'''

{{saved-post
| category = Paid Events: Adventures, Quests, and SimuCoins
| topic = Duskruin Arena
| messagenum = [http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Paid%20Events:%20Adventures,%20Quests,%20and%20SimuCoins/Duskruin%20Arena/view/10645 10645]
| author = SIMU-WYROM
| date = 2/19/2019
| subject = Heal Routine Update: Symbol of Mana
}}
The Symbol of Mana cooldown is now removed on exit of the arena or heist.

And just in case I forgot to post it, so is the Mana Leech one. I don't remember if I did.
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===Celestial Temple===
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| category = Paid Events: Adventures, Quests, and SimuCoins
| topic = Duskruin Arena
| messagenum = [http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Paid%20Events:%20Adventures,%20Quests,%20and%20SimuCoins/Duskruin%20Arena/view/10755 10755]
| author = GS4-THANDIWE
| date = 2/28/2019
| subject = Beyond Rock and Rubble...
}}
Toiling away to clear the debris, brave adventures struggled to find the treasures that awaited them beyond a stone-clogged barricade found buried within a fissure adjacent to the Underground Temple in Bloodriven Village. As fresh air rushed into the ancient cavern, dozens of earth elementals, krynch, and stone giants surged through to attack the intruders as they attempted to lay claim to the hidden nest. Battling valiantly, despite numerous casualties, the group put down the incredibly strong threat and began investigating the archeological site.

Faint whispers, shadows, and ghosts danced upon the dust-filled passageway as the explorers gazed upon murals that had been painted upon the walls. None-too-subtle in their travels, the group found more minions of the dark lying in wait for them. Minotaurs! Mages and Warriors prowled the halls! Why would they be here? How did they get in? What was their purpose? Silence was the only answer, which deepened with each horned bovines’ death. Would they return? None could say.

As the gentle sound of plinking water echoed through the halls, the sounds of battle fading to a memory, the adventurers found themselves gazing at the terminus of the passage where an enormous door, dripping with eldritch energy, stood waiting. Even the mummified remains of a dwarf, found tucked into a shelf on the cavern's walls, had no answers, a cryptic note...

''<Never could figure out a way to open that door... Escape so close at hand, on both ends of this tunnel, but no hope in them.

Seeking answers, the adventurers turned to the bard in their midst, and that bard began to unravel the tale trapped within murals. With answers in hand, the group whispered to the door and stepped into a new arena. In this arena, they were greeted with nothing but death. Demons prowled upon the tortured landscape, some few caught within a cage of pain and misery.
Perhaps the tale of the Arena’s Founders was better left undiscovered after all...

---

Special thank you to all the adventurers that played with us on opening night and worked hard to uncover the mystery and story of the new section in the Underground Temple. Thanks to the bards that worked in each instance, the story can be found on RECALL and shared with all.

GM Modrian was kind enough to code the loresong, GM Estild was instrumental in getting the RECALL taken care of for each mural and painting, GM Galene created the entire monk body and his possessions, GM Haliste, GM Tivvy, GM Isten, and GM Flannihan assisted with QC, general questions, and refinement of the tale that was told, while GM Netz created the wonderful mood messaging that fills the area.
The new area is permanent and there are two shrines in this area that can be SENSED by a cleric.


~*~ Thandiwe ~*~<br>
ASGM of Events<section end=savedpostcel2019-02 />
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==August 2019==
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==February 2020==
{{#section:Duskruin/saved posts February 2020|savedpost}}

<section begin=savedpost2020-02 />{{saved-post
| category = Paid Events: Adventures, Quests, and SimuCoins
| topic = Duskruin Arena
| messagenum = [http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Paid%20Events:%20Adventures,%20Quests,%20and%20SimuCoins/Duskruin%20Arena/view/11501 11501]
| author = SIMU-WYROM
| date = 2/2/2020
| subject = Duskruin Updates
}}
I'm going to address the concern (with code). Just need to find the best workaround.

According to the numbers, PRAY was used on average once in every one hundred matches on average. The majority using it was to beat it quickly, so losing the time was never having an impact for them.

Last run, the timer had no impact on your bloodscrip, which put PRAY into overdrive. With the timer gone and the difficulty getting a bit looser, PRAY has to come with some sort of disadvantage.

I'll discuss it more once I manage to update the code and test some things out.
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'''Wyrom, PM'''

{{saved-post
| category = Paid Events: Adventures, Quests, and SimuCoins
| topic = Duskruin Arena
| messagenum = [http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Paid%20Events:%20Adventures,%20Quests,%20and%20SimuCoins/Duskruin%20Arena/view/11514 11514]
| author = SIMU-WYROM
| date = 2/3/2020
| subject = PRAY in the Arena
}}
I've updated some of the code to account for the concerns with PRAY moving to an item-based drop.

The PRAY function will now offer boosted mana and stamina per use). It's RNG, but it was 45 to 60. It's now 60 to 120. You will get 3 prayers per match at no penalty. The 4th prayer will advance the difficulty. The 5th and subsequent prayers will come at a cost of half your spirit and random damage being dealt to you. It will also come with the slight chance of a demon being summoned (no additional rewards). There is a slight cooldown between prayers.

Team matches will also be limited to 3 prayers (before things ramp up), but...stay tuned to the next post.
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'''Wyrom, PM'''

{{saved-post
| category = Paid Events: Adventures, Quests, and SimuCoins
| topic = Duskruin Arena
| messagenum = [http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Paid%20Events:%20Adventures,%20Quests,%20and%20SimuCoins/Duskruin%20Arena/view/11517 11517]
| author = SIMU-WYROM
| date = 2/3/2020
| subject = PRAY in the Arena
}}
It will be your current spirit. If you don't have enough spirit, you won't be able to perform the action (no spirit deaths caused directly from PRAY).
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'''Wyrom, PM

{{saved-post
| category = Paid Events: Adventures, Quests, and SimuCoins
| topic = Duskruin Arena
| messagenum = [http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Paid%20Events:%20Adventures,%20Quests,%20and%20SimuCoins/Duskruin%20Arena/view/11540 11540]
| author = SIMU-WYROM
| date = 2/5/2020
| subject = PRAY in the Arena
}}
I've updated PRAY to be 3 uses, +1 per extra teammate. So the max PRAYer uses before penalties kick in is 5 with a team of 3.
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'''Wyrom, PM

{{saved-post
| category = Paid Events: Adventures, Quests, and SimuCoins
| topic = Duskruin Arena
| messagenum = [http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Paid%20Events:%20Adventures,%20Quests,%20and%20SimuCoins/Duskruin%20Arena/view/11592 11592]
| author = SIMU-WYROM
| date = 2/8/2020
| subject = Duskruin Updates
}}
The PRAY messaging has been updated when you're on your LAST prayer before things get more difficult. If you've already advanced the difficulty (this happens just around 8 minutes in), then you go straight to the maelstrom hitting the arena (and a very rare chance of a demon).
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'''Wyrom, PM

{{saved-post
| category = Paid Events: Adventures, Quests, and SimuCoins
| topic = Duskruin Arena
| messagenum = [http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Paid%20Events:%20Adventures,%20Quests,%20and%20SimuCoins/Duskruin%20Arena/view/11593 11593]
| author = SIMU-WYROM
| date = 2/8/2020
| subject = Duskruin Updates
}}
The bloodscrip formula for the arena is (9 * rounds completed) + 50 for winning + team bonus - time penalty for taking longer than 8 minutes. If you take longer than 8 minutes, you'll get a second item in your prize package (could be 1 totem and 1 random item or 2 totems or 2 random items).

So if you take a long time to win, you can get less than the max scrip. This also won't count as a perfect win. Keep in mind, previously, this would just be a loss.
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'''Wyrom, PM

{{saved-post
| category = Paid Events: Adventures, Quests, and SimuCoins
| topic = Duskruin Arena
| messagenum = [http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Paid%20Events:%20Adventures,%20Quests,%20and%20SimuCoins/Duskruin%20Arena/view/11609 11609]
| author = SIMU-WYROM
| date = 2/8/2020
| subject = Duskruin Updates
}}
The floor for using PRAY has been increased from 60 to 75.

At this point with the updates, three prayers is equal to roughly five prayers on the lowest end comparing the old arena to the new arena. As long as you haven't advanced the difficulty, you can do a 4th prayer as well without dealing with random damage (or demons).

I've also reduced the time penalty slightly. The time penalty only comes into place by expending all your prayers and getting into the more difficult matches, or by taking longer than 8 minutes and 40 seconds. Previously this would have been a loss. In terms of the prayer penalty in the previous arena, using more than 5 prayers would have cost you about 40% of your arena match's time.
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'''Wyrom, PM

{{saved-post
| category = Paid Events: Adventures, Quests, and SimuCoins
| topic = Duskruin Arena
| messagenum = [http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Paid%20Events:%20Adventures,%20Quests,%20and%20SimuCoins/Duskruin%20Arena/view/11648 11648]
| author = SIMU-WYROM
| date = 2/11/2020
| subject = Duskruin Updates
}}
I lowered the chances of an automaton spawning as a champion greatly. If one does spawn, the chances of the rarer ores will be higher.
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'''Wyrom, PM

{{saved-post
| category = Paid Events: Adventures, Quests, and SimuCoins
| topic = Duskruin Arena
| messagenum = [http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Paid%20Events:%20Adventures,%20Quests,%20and%20SimuCoins/Duskruin%20Arena/view/11515 11515]
| author = SIMU-WYROM
| date = 2/3/2020
| subject = Team Matches Update
}}
Team matches will now offer bonus bloodscrip for all combatants. Duos will offer +10. Trios will offer +25. So a party of three can earn as much as 300 bloodscrip each.
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==August 2021==
<section begin=savedpost2021-08 />{{saved-post
| category = Paid Events: Adventures, Quests, and SimuCoins
| topic = Duskruin Arena
| messagenum = [http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Paid%20Events:%20Adventures,%20Quests,%20and%20SimuCoins/Duskruin%20Arena/view/13391 13391]
| author = SIMU-WYROM
| date = 8/11/2021
| subject = Duskruin Endless and Updates
}}
A version of this was intended to go out during the mailer this coming Friday, but I'd like to get it announced on the forums ahead of that schedule.

Endless is a new alternative solo arena that you can join. You will now be able to switch between the arenas with the DUSKRUIN verb. All your old stats will now housed in the EVENT verb. The endless arena will be the exact same experience for the first 25 rounds. If you die, surrender or lose, you will be treated just like you normally would in the standard arena. After round 25, you're locked in for max rewards and you'll be treated as a perfect win. Round 26 the difficulty will begin ramping up. The longer you're also in the arena, the faster opponents will move. You will go until you die or surrender, and you won't be penalized for either. There are no additional rewards for endless, but you can earn new titles and make it on the leaderboard. There is a leaderboard for the single highest round of each profession.

Here is the updated DUSKRUIN verb (this may get a better usage readout).

You are currently set to do the STANDARD arena when joining a solo match. Information on Duskruin stats can be found in EVENT STATS.

Usage:<br>
Standard: Solo arena for 25 rounds.<br>
Endless: Solo arena to go as far as you can!<br>
HESS Certificates for Wyrom (if applicable).<br>
HESS Certificates for account SIMU-WYROM (if applicable).

Here is the updated EVENT STATS verb for Endless.

Highest Endless Round: N/A<br>
Highest Endless Time: N/A<br>
Last Endless Round: N/A<br>
Last Endless Time: N/A

And with that, there are a load of updates to the all the activities at Duskruin. To make it easier to follow, here is a bullet list below.

* Arena
** New reward pool for extra item (spheres, misericords, rabbit's foot, vials, totems, and bag of holding expander).
** Improved smithy invites happening if you haven't had one in awhile.
** Endless (mentioned above).
** Automaton ores are still exclusive to the arena.

* Sewers
** New reward pool for extra item (spheres, misericords, rabbit's foot, vials, totems, and bag of holding expander).
** Bloodscrip rewards improved from 12 - 25 to 15 - 30. Impacts caches as well.
** Items found in the sewers will not remove a search attempt. Ex. Finding a rat with 8 searches left will let you still search 8 more times.
** Bloodrunes are still exclusive to the sewers.

*Heist
** New reward pool for extra item (spheres, misericords, rabbit's foot, vials, totems, and bag of holding expander).
** Bloodscrip values on sellback of artifacts are increased across all rarities.
** Artifacts to make the bag of holding are still exclusive to the heist.

Just a few words on why I made these updates. I wanted to even the playing field more between activities. The 100 bloodscrip value is still the baseline in which we guarantee out of all the activities, but the ceilings on the sewer and heist are closer to the arena now. The sewers should see the average jump (pre caches) from ~127 to ~225. The bank heist will have an average jump (pre blood crystal) from +~10 +~15 without needing to sell a blood crystal. The bag of holding expanders are now part of all activities since the activity to get the bag of holding is only found in a single activity.

Just to remind everyone what the spheres, misericords, rabbit's feet, and vials do.
* Spheres: AoE attack in the arena.
* Misericords: Kill one opponent in the heist (outside the boss) with STAB.
* Rabbit's foot: Increase luck at loot, smithy invite, or trove token in the sewers.
* Vials: Rat scent to attract rats.

Tentatively launching Friday, but might not be 100% ready.
* Ranger companions, spirit servants, grasp of the grave, demons, and animates to be allowed into the arena.
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{{saved-post
| category = Paid Events: Adventures, Quests, and SimuCoins
| topic = Duskruin Arena
| messagenum = [http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Paid%20Events:%20Adventures,%20Quests,%20and%20SimuCoins/Duskruin%20Arena/view/13406 13406]
| author = SIMU-WYROM
| date = 8/12/2021
| subject = Duskruin Endless and Updates
}}
Couple things I forgot to mention.

The time limit in the arena is gone. There is no longer a penalty. You either finish a winner, die, or surrender. There is also being disconnected or logging out, but that's separate.

Looks like with testing tonight, companions, pets, singing weapons, etc are working, but getting them to follow you might be a pain.
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'''Wyrom, PM

{{saved-post
| category = Paid Events: Adventures, Quests, and SimuCoins
| topic = Duskruin Arena
| messagenum = [http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Paid%20Events:%20Adventures,%20Quests,%20and%20SimuCoins/Duskruin%20Arena/view/13423 13423]
| author = SIMU-WYROM
| date = 8/12/2021
| subject = Duskruin Endless and Updates
}}
''>>Are there any more champions (like, every 5th?), or is it just increasing-difficulty spuds?

See, I keep forgetting things! So after round 25, it's completely random if you get a champion or not. Might happen back to back, might not happen for 10 rounds. You are still limited to one automaton per though, and endless might be a good way to farm them if automaton ores are desired. They serve a few purposes, just not many.

''>>Are there more 'pray' allowed periodically (like every 5, 8, 10 opponents)?

Too many late nights, that's my excuse. You get +1 prayer every 5 rounds after round 25.
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'''Wyrom, PM

{{saved-post
| category = Paid Events: Adventures, Quests, and SimuCoins
| topic = Duskruin Arena
| messagenum = [http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Paid%20Events:%20Adventures,%20Quests,%20and%20SimuCoins/Duskruin%20Arena/view/13450 13450]
| author = SIMU-WYROM
| date = 8/13/2021
| subject = Duskruin Endless and Updates
}}
''>>So I've been reading this and I just have one more question. Why would I run the standard arena now? I can run Endless for 25 max out rewards and surrender on 26. Will anything affect the Endless rewards? If I pray 4 times in the first 25 rounds in endless, I still get max rewards? If I pray 4 times in standard my rewards are reduced, correct?

There are no differences between Endless and Standard for the first 25 rounds. You get no new rewards at 26. So while you could do this, it would likely just take more of your time.
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{{#section:Duskruin/saved posts August 2021|savedpost}}

</noinclude>{{saved-post
| category = Paid Events: Adventures, Quests, and SimuCoins
| topic = Duskruin Arena
| messagenum = [http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Paid%20Events:%20Adventures,%20Quests,%20and%20SimuCoins/Duskruin%20Arena/view/13575 13575]
| author = SIMU-WYROM
| date = 8/20/2021
| subject = Pending Duskruin Updates
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Just a reminder, the Endless changes will be going live on Friday, August 20th, in the "afternoon." My goal is before 5pm ET. When it's about to go live, I will need to shut down the solo arena until all Endless runs are done. The leaderboards will then be saved and put on display at a future run. This will be deemed our "legacy" run of Endless. Leaderboards will not persist from run to run, but the legacy one will stay forever.

Anyone who managed to beat the first round of Endless (26) or get to round 100 will earn some legacy titles. You have until it's updated to get in on it! This will not be offered outside of this, and there will be no future ways to earn them. The new EVENT STATS readout for Duskruin will look like this for Endless.

{| class="wikitable alternating"
|-
| scope="row" | Highest Endless Round: || N/A
|-
| scope="row" | Highest Endless Time: || N/A
|-
| scope="row" | Last Endless Round: || N/A
|-
| scope="row" | Last Endless Time: || N/A
|-
| scope="row" | Highest Legacy Endless Round: || 26
|-
| scope="row" | Highest Legacy Endless Time: || 110s
|-
| scope="row" | Last Legacy Endless Round: || 26
|-
| scope="row" | Last Legacy Endless Time: || 110s
|}

If you never did anything during the legacy run, it simply will not show up in your readout.

The difficulty of Endless will be back to where we envisioned it, where getting beyond 100 should be extremely challenging. It was great watching a good portion of you demolish the debut of this and I hope that updates make it even better in terms of accomplishing higher rounds.
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'''Wyrom, PM

{{saved-post
| category = Paid Events: Adventures, Quests, and SimuCoins
| topic = Duskruin Arena
| messagenum = [http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Paid%20Events:%20Adventures,%20Quests,%20and%20SimuCoins/Duskruin%20Arena/view/13584 13584]
| author = SIMU-WYROM
| date = 8/20/2021
| subject = New Titles
}}
Part of Endless was adding new titles. If you've followed my posts, you know we are updating it and splitting it up, retiring the current version and naming it a Legacy run.

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! scope="col" colspan="2" | Legacy Titles
|-
| scope="row" | Combatant of Perpetuity	|| Postname
|-
| scope="row" | Abiding Champion of Duskruin Arena || Postname
|-
| scope="row" | Arena Challenger || Prename
|-
! scope="col" colspan="2" | Endless Titles
|-
| scope="row" | Endless Champion of Duskruin Arena || Postname
|-
| scope="row" | Infinite Champion of Duskruin Arena || Postname
|-
| scope="row" | Eternal Juggernaut of Duskruin Arena || Postname
|-
| scope="row" | Unsurpassable Titan of the Arena || Postname
|-
| scope="row" | Arena Conqueror || Prename
|-
| scope="row" | Arena Icon || Prename
|-
! scope="col" colspan="2" | Duskruin Titles
|-
| scope="row" | Relentless Vanquisher of Duskruin Arena	|| Postname
|}
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'''Wyrom, PM<section end=savedpost2021-08 />
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==February 2022==
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