Duskruin/saved posts April 2016
General Information
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 2606
Author: GS4-WYROM
Date: 2/25/2016
Subject: Upcoming Dates
Hello everyone. Our bloodscrip event will be held in the Viridian Coil at Bloodriven Village on March 6th at roughly 2pm ET. The way to Duskruin will only be open that Sunday and will be shut down shortly after the event. You will not be able to go into the arena or sewers while there, but any merchandise that was on sale last time will be available.
Duskruin will be returning April 25th and will be closing down May 3rd. We will have some updates on this run that will make things interesting (I hope).
I'll have more information in individual threads (the bloodscrip event I'll talk about first in the coming days). These dates are still considered tentative, but they are set in stone in my calendar.
~Wyrom, APM
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 2769
Author: GS4-WYROM
Date: 4/3/2016
Subject: Dates for April run?
I think I mistakenly said some dates that weren't right last time. But the dates are...
April 22nd to May 1st.
~Wyrom, APM
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 2853
Author: SIMU-WYROM
Date: 4/22/2016
Subject: Deets
Hey everyone. I know information has been lacking about this run, but the updates became a lot bigger than I anticipated. With Platinum's beta testing, I've been operating on about 3 to 4 hours of sleep for the last week because I've been sinking in some serious hours with the development of this event. I know you all want info, and I appreciate Platinum keeping a closed lip about it.
There is going to be a certain element to be discovered here. Not so much inventory. Most shops either have signs or things are obvious this time around. Lots of new inventory (or updated with new properties). The new collectible system has gone over very well in Platinum, but a lot of it is going to be for you to find out. The collectible system is a new layer to the arena and (mostly) sewers. There is no additional cost, nothing is lost or sacrificed to have this new system.
There are some new arena mechanics to help with resource (mana/stamina) management. The announcer has some new dialogue about this. We have 3 new champions, an orc, a tattooed maniac, and hallowed zealot (in game descriptions don't quite match these descriptions) -- the hobgoblin, mezic, and bendith have been retired. The goblin and stone troll in the regular matches have been replaced with a troll slaver and a vor'taz. Some descriptions have been updated. Stealth builds don't get the double whammy on being pulled from hiding with the dodge mechanics. You'll still get pulled when performing most the moves. Just not the actual dodge.
Two new NPCs are included with some history and questions they can answer. One NPC, a dwarven archaeologist, buys the new MoonShards that you can find in the sewers. This will make more sense once people start getting involved. The other is a rat catcher in the sewers that will buy your rats, should you not want them anymore. Both of these pay in bloodscrip that gets added directly to your character's TICKET amount.
There is a new area, the underground temple, which is across from the actual arena entrance where you use a slip to fight. It is part of the background of the area and houses the dwarf NPC. The temple has a direct tie in to the new collectible system.
There were a plethora of fixes on the GM side that helps with better tracking, better messaging, and more options for a wider variety of players to enjoy both the arena and sewers.
You all should be seeing a new email tonight with some of this information. The way we're handling the marketing and hype is a little different, hence my "soons" over and over. We're trying something new. It doesn't help those of you chomping at the bit for info here. I know I've been much more forthcoming with pre-event information. But I've really been working hard to get this out. I didn't want this to be just "another run." It comes with many new features.
See you tomorrow.
Wyrom, APM
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 2888
Author: SIMU-WYROM
Date: 4/22/2016
Subject: Deets
All the shops are as is. The higher end items that were in the Mar and Scar are moving to our new higher end item sales. The basement of the Mar and Scar is going to be a new home for those two items going forward, to fit in with the theme of the shop.
Wyrom, APM
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 2898
Author: SIMU-WYROM
Date: 4/22/2016
Subject: Deets
There are a lot of new items for sale, as well as updates to existing inventory to make it more appealing.
The higher end sale is moving back to an unlimited sale with a catch. The price will increase per purchase. But this will let us to allow unlimited numbers to be sold.
We have a pretty big list of stuff that are possibly going out next Sunday, but we're finalizing that list before we prepare the shop. The code is all new for this, but it's going through some internal testing still.
There are a number of items with what has been asked for in the mid-range in pricing, and some into the 10000+ bloodscrip pricing.
If you want to hold off until we announce the list, you can. But it's going to possibly be the biggest list we've had in terms of high end gear, with the allowance of unlimited amounts going out for increasing prices. We'll try to get things hammered out as soon as we can.
Wyrom, APM
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 2990
Author: SIMU-LIIA
Date: 4/24/2016
Subject: Duskruin FAQ
The Duskruin Event is hopping! The streets of Bloodriven Village are awash with blood and sewer muck (It's a good thing, really!). Here's some basic information in one spot, for your convenience.
1. How do I get there?
Take the wagons, available in most towns, to the outskirts of Bloodriven Village. The arena and sewers are inside the town walls.
2. What do I get for searching in the sewers?
You get Bloodscrip, the currency of Bloodriven Village's shops! You can also find a pet rat, which is customizable at various merchants to meet your rodent needs. And Moonshards! This is where the shattered remains of the pendants washed during the quake that the Archaeologist speaks of!
3. What do I get for battling in the Arena?
You get Bloodscrip, the currency of Bloodriven Village's shops! You might also get a pendant, part of the Moonshard Quest.
4. Wait, Moonshard Quest? Is that new?
It is! Collect Moonshards as you search the sewers. Gather them to reassemble the shattered moon pendants for a rare and amazing item!
5. And what's this about shops?
Bloodriven Village has shops in which you can spend your hard-earned Bloodscrip. Many of the items have been changed, upgraded, and refreshed for this run. Please read the signs for more details!
6. What else can I do there?
If you don't want to battle, you can watch your friends die... er, fight... from the Arena stands! The village also has a tavern for some enjoyable R&R. Check out the details of the town itself! Don't fall in the privy, though. Yuck!
7. What if I don't want a pendant? And what if I'm tired of my filty rat?!
Talk to the Rat Catcher in the sewers, and/or the Archaeologist in the Celestial temple. They have some extra Bloodscrip in their pockets they will trade you for these types of items.
8. Is there anything else coming?
Of course there is! Special higher end items will be on a special sale toward the end of the event. Stay tuned for more details!
For more information, please catch up on this forums topic, and post your questions. The rats look forward to seeing you in their underground home!
~Liia
APM, Gemstone IV
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 3291
Author: SIMU-WYROM
Date: 4/27/2016
Subject: runestaves, drop rates enhansives.
Treasure boosters, song of luck, and any other loot enhancive has no effect at Duskruin or the Sewers. I don't want anyone wasting any of those SimuCoin purchases here.
Wyrom, APM
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 3527
Author: SIMU-WYROM
Date: 4/29/2016
Subject: LIMITED TIME: Sale on Duskruin slips/tokens
Tonight from 6pm Eastern until midnight Eastern, we will have a sale on the slips and tokens for entry into the arena and sewers. The prices will be reflected in the SimuCoin store at that time.
Save 5% on 10 token jars / 10 slip booklets Save 10% on 25 token jars / 25 slip booklets Save 15% on 50 token jars / 50 slip booklets
Enjoy!
~Liia
APM, Gemstone IV
Arena
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 2933
Author: SIMU-WYROM
Date: 4/22/2016
Subject: Quick Arena Update
I've removed the centaur, shan, and hallowed champions from the arena. They were doing things they shouldn't be doing too often in Prime.
Wyrom, APM
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 2935
Author: SIMU-WYROM
Date: 4/22/2016
Subject: Quick Arena Update
A goblin champion has also been added.
Wyrom, APM
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 2960
Author: SIMU-WYROM
Date: 4/23/2016
Subject: Quick Arena Update
Treasure chests granted from spell 717 should be resolved. That was never intended. Sorry sorcerers.
Wyrom, APM
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 2976
Author: SIMU-WYROM
Date: 4/23/2016
Subject: Quick Arena Update
>>Treasure was also being generated by either an empath or cleric spell that leaves no body, just treasure.
This should be resolved with that.
>>Re: Spell 418
I've made it so when you enter the dueling sands, any nodes created by 418 will be removed.
Wyrom, APM
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 2979
Author: SIMU-WYROM
Date: 4/23/2016
Subject: Quick Arena Update
This may have came off wrong. Any OLD nodes created will be removed. That's so you can lay down a fresh one. Had an email how they can drop mid-arena match and then you're screwed. Thought this was a good thing.
Wyrom, APM
Shops
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 2749
Author: GS4-VALYRKA
Date: 3/27/2016
Subject: Flash of Strength Update
I am updating some items in my shop that had flared weapons/armor/accessories.
What I am looking for is a want/need for different flares on certain items?
Was there something you looked at and said, dang I wish it had this flare instead of that?
The shops listing is here:
Feel free to drop me a note or post any requests.
~ Valyrka ~
Ta'Illistim
Elves
Dark Elves
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 2803
Author: SIMU-LIIA
Date: 4/14/2016
Subject: items for sale at Duskruin
There will be a new item type (with variations) in Khloake and Dagger.
There will be new spells in the booze in Under the Counter.
~Liia
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 2925
Author: GS4-VALYRKA
Date: 4/2/2016
Subject: A flash of Strength ~ NEW STUFF
So.... I was able to add some uncommon flares to A Flash of Strength as well as up some of the enchants to 6x!
There are parchments explaining which is which.
Also... all items except leather helms, brawling weapons, and runestaves have what we commonly call anfelt armor and weapon scripts fully unlocked.
ENJOY!
~ Valyrka ~
Ta'Illistim
Elves
Dark Elves
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 2942
Author: SIMU-WYROM
Date: 4/23/2016
Subject: A flash of Strength ~ NEW STUFF
>>are some items the same with higher prices?
All items have the Anfelt scripts on them and are fully unlocked.
Wyrom, APM
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 2946
Author: GS4-VALYRKA
Date: 4/23/2016
Subject: A flash of Strength ~ NEW STUFF
Wyrom is correct. I added fully unlocked scripts where I could. There was not a script for leather helms and brawling items as I previously posted. Otherwise no more trying to get them unlocked. Ta da!
~ Valyrka ~
Ta'Illistim
Elves
Dark Elves
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 3159
Author: GS4-HALISTE
Date: 4/25/2016
Subject: Signs, signs, everywhere signs
Signs have been added to Gamac's Goods back room, Bare Aggression, and updated in Spellbound.
If there are other areas where you want some signage, let me know.
~ Haliste ~
The Forest Gnome of Silverwood Manor
ASGM, World Development
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 3220
Author: GS4-HALISTE
Date: 4/26/2016
Subject: moon phase neclaces in spellbound
There's not much more information other than what's provided already. They are very old. Only a handful were ever released. They are strictly fluff. They do only one thing - track the phasing of the moons. That's it.
But, there are not many of them out there. It's just an opportunity to have a nifty thing that no one else (or very few) has.
~ Haliste ~
The Forest Gnome of Silverwood Manor
ASGM, World Development
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 3225
Author: GS4-HALISTE
Date: 4/26/2016
Subject: gambling kits
There's now a sign in the front room of Gamac's Goods.
~ Haliste ~
The Forest Gnome of Silverwood Manor
ASGM, World Development
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 3288
Author: SIMU-WYROM
Date: 4/27/2016
Subject: Drawing the Line - Pricing Update
Looks like one of our teak-handled golvern hook-knife were wrongly priced. It's been updated.
Wyrom, APM
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 3451
Author: GS4-HALISTE
Date: 4/28/2016
Subject: A Few Thoughts
Just a few updates here - thank you for your feedback.
The two gems in Gamac's Goods have had their cost adjusted. The pink diamond is now 75 BS and the blood red diamond is 150 BS.
The drinks in Under the Counter now have 10 sips.
The trinkets in Khloake and Dagger are now 100 BS.
Enjoy!
~ Haliste ~
The Forest Gnome of Silverwood Manor
ASGM, World Development
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 3544
Author: SIMU-WYROM
Date: 4/29/2016
Subject: Scrip Pouches
In just a little bit, scrip pouches will be available for sale in the Mar and Scar. What's a scrip pouch? Here is the analyze.
This is a scrip pouch designed to combine and hold your bloodscrip. You can remove a specific number as well.
Usage:
LOOK [in] MY pouch - Get the scrip total inside.
DROP {scrip} [in] MY pouch - Place and combine your scrip inside the pouch.
GET {#} MY pouch - Get a specific number of scrip from inside.
TURN MY pouch - Remove all remaining scrip inside.
Wyrom, APM
High-End/Limited Items
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 3008
Author: SIMU-WYROM
Date: 4/24/2016
Subject: The List and the New Distribution Method
Okay, so here is the list and a brief overview of the new distribution method. Wiki friendly!
- Pre-made Items
- ChaosJewelry - Tier 3 unlocked.
- Branding Iron
- Enchanting Potions
- ChronoFlare dagger - 5x, vultite.
- Fusion Armors - The ones from the Mar and Scar, 3 socket, padded.
- Multi-setting Gold Rings - Multiple settings similar to the Mar and Scar's old inventory.
- X/day spell items
- Services
- Weighting - +10 on top of what you got.
- Padding - +10 on top of what you got.
- TD - +10 on top of what you got.
- Enchanting - +5 on top of what you got.
- Weight Reduction - 20% (+10% on top of what you have, capped at 50%).
- Splitting Weapon - Added to an unscripted weapon, unlocked with fluff addition.
- Epic Deepening
- WoundedWear - Tier 3 unlocked.
- VolnArmor - Tier 4 unlocked.
- Limited Quantity
- Undead Bane - Flares or +8 weighting.
The new distribution will be a shop that will increase the price by a percentage per purchase. The purchaser will have the price locked (and lock others from purchasing) for a short duration (30 seconds) to make the choice. Those who also wish to buy the item will be entered into a queue and be chosen at random to go next. This is all done by getting the price on the item. There is a cooldown given to the purchaser so others have a chance to buy an item as well. The prices will be announced later, but they will range significantly. Many items 100k+ with some items climbing much higher. There is also that "mid-tier" pricing between 30k to 50k which I feel is high-tier.
I'll obviously have more details about this in the coming days.
Wyrom, APM
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 2013
Author: SIMU-WYROM
Date: 4/24/2016
Subject: The List and the New Distribution Method
>>still no acuity?! I'm not the only one who has asked for it
I'll see if I can get this on the list. I'm sorry. It was on my original list.
>>Are there any restrictions on the padding/weighting/enchanting?
Those are part of the more details coming. But pretty much same as last time.
>>How's the t4 voln unlock going to work on our side? Do you have to put it on something already t3 or can you jump from a lower tier?
Keep Platinum questions on the Platinum side please!
Wyrom, APM
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 3031
Author: SIMU-WYROM
Date: 4/24/2016
Subject: The List and the New Distribution Method
>>Makes sense for the big ticket services (ud bane, padding, weighting, etc) but the off the shelf stuff (fusion armors, greater flaring, etc.) wasn't auctioned that I'm aware of which is why i'm curious if say, the HCP/3slot brig is going to start at 30k and go north, or start at say 20k for the first lucky few. Trying to gauge what people might need to even try to bother to be the first lucky ones to crash the gates on sunday.
The fusion armor will start at 30000 here. I understand that logic, and that will be applied to some other stuff. But the price increase will be a percent based on the item's cost too. So let's just say something was extreme like 50%. It climbs from 30000 to 45000. It's not as extreme as some examples I've seen, but that's how it would work.
One thing to keep in mind, the alternative is to go back to 1 of each and auctioned. We need to control the supply of these items in some fashion. Not everything is priced and will be priced so it can be flipped for profit (which is almost always the case). This gets items to people who want them and are willing to buy them at whatever the cost.
>>I think that's actually it for anything 1k+
A good rule of thumb is 2500 for 5x and 10000 for 6x. If the item has other properties, the price is adjusted. Fluff scripts typically up the price if they are unlocked. Flares and stuff like that is more significant. And then you have stuff like common and uncommon flares that are varying.
We'll try to get signs out. GM Haliste has been helping with these.
Wyrom, APM
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 3149
Author: SIMU-WYROM
Date: 4/25/2016
Subject: The List and the New Distribution Method
While we can all think of issues or better ways to handle it, Duskruin has gone through many variations of how we handle this higher end event. This is the only way we can handle the unlimited quantity, even if it create artificial supply and demand values. The fusion armor coming back would never come back any other way. Nor would the undead bane. The alternative would be limited (single) items going out like we've been doing. We'll see how this goes. Love it or hate it, some people will enjoy it. I'm looking forward to seeing how it will go.
Just to touch base on the F2P concerns, we have yet to see any of these F2P accounts come in as hordes at any event and do any of the evil deeds people keep claiming. Like BmC, EG, over even Duskruin. I have charts and graphs showing me lots of information these days on F2P purchases and consumption of SimuCoin items. We want our F2P customers to enjoy the game too.
Wyrom, APM
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 3301
Author: SIMU-WYROM
Date: 4/27/2016
Subject: The List with Pricing
| Sale | Type | Price | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|
| Undead Bane | Service | 400,000 | 5 total. |
| Additional Weighting | Service (+5) | 300,000 | Added to currently weighted. |
| Fresh-slate Weighting | Service (+10) | 250,000 | Weapons with no weighting. |
| Additional Padding | Service (+5) | 200,000 | Added to currently padded. |
| Fresh-slate Padding | Service (+10) | 25,000 | Armor with no padding. |
| Additional TD | Service (+5) | 250,000 | Can be added to other TD bonuses. |
| Enchant | Service (+5) | 200,000 | Standard enchant. |
| Additional Acuity Flare | Service (+5) | 50,000 | 10 total. |
| Fresh-slate Acuity Flare | Service (+30) | 25,000 | 10 total. |
| Additional Mana Flare | Service (+1) | 50,000 | 10 total. |
| Fresh-slate Mana Flare | Service (+3) | 25,000 | 10 total. |
| Weight Reduction | Service (+20%) | 125,000 | Adding 20% to weight reduction. |
| Splitting Weapon | Service | 175,000 | Weapon can't be scripted (fluff can be removed). Unlocked with zests. |
| Voln Armor | Service | 150,000 | Armor must be Voln Armor prior. |
| WoundedWear | Service Tier 3 | 75,000 | Unlocking woundedwear to max tier. |
| ChaosJewelry | Premade Tier 3 | 75,000 | The One Ring. But, like, multiples. |
| ChronoFlares | Premade | 100,000 | 5x, vultite. |
| Branding Iron | Premade | 100,000 | Stops the bleeding. |
| Fusion Armor | Premade | 30,000 | +17, HCP, 3-slot. The ones from the Mar and Scar. |
| 12-Setter Gold Ring | Premade | 150,000 | The good stuff. |
| Greater Elemental Flare | Premade | 20,000 | 6x. The ones from the Mar and Scar. |
| Bromin Potion | Premade (10 pours) | 60,000 | Enchanting potions. |
| Aleteh Potion | Premade (11 pours) | 70,000 | Enchanting potions. |
| Grenshol Potion | Premade (12 pours) | 80,000 | Enchanting potions. |
| Pricing will increase per sale from 10% to 50% depending on rarity of service. | |||
Wyrom, APM
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 3308
Author: SIMU-WYROM
Date: 4/27/2016
Subject: The List with Pricing
Yes, epic deepening won't be for sale at the shop. I'll be selling that live, in person.
The spell items just need some further discussion before I post them.
I knew I forgot to leave a note about those.
Just as an FYI, the fresh-slate padding is priced cheaper because we offer it via Premium Points as well.
Some stuff, like the weight reduction, is +20%, so you could bring in something that already has it and add on top of it.
Lastly, like the auction before, we have a one service per item rule.
Wyrom, APM
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 3312
Author: SIMU-WYROM
Date: 4/27/2016
Subject: The List with Pricing
>>What is the time frame for redeeming the services?
May 2nd. I'd like to do them that day if possible though.
Wyrom, APM
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 3318
Author: SIMU-WYROM
Date: 4/27/2016
Subject: The List with Pricing
>>Can we get prices and service specifics?
Epic deepening will be about 2500 bloodscrip.
Wyrom, APM
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 3319
Author: SIMU-WYROM
Date: 4/27/2016
Subject: The List with Pricing
>>So it costs less to get a runestaff with NO mana flaring to +3 than it costs to move a +2 staff to a +3? Doesn't seem right somehow...
If you're under those totals, we can consider that fresh.
Wyrom, APM
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 3323
Author: SIMU-WYROM
Date: 4/27/2016
Subject: The List with Pricing
>>Which version of epic deepening is this? The Albatross version or the RtCF version?
Albatross. But I guess I could offer RtCF level too at a different price and perhaps lower Albatross level.
Wyrom, APM
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 3325
Author: SIMU-WYROM
Date: 4/27/2016
Subject: The List with Pricing
The shop will be out Sunday afternoon for a few hours, like previous high-end portions of the event. With the new mechanic, we can probably leave this out a bit longer now. I plan on being in Sunday as Lahke redeeming these, as well as offering some services by hand.
Also, I know there were a lot of things asked for, so we'll try to get them into a future run. Like tents, defenders, phoenixes, etc.
Wyrom, APM
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 3347
Author: SIMU-WYROM
Date: 4/28/2016
Subject: The List with Pricing
Hey everyone. I realize the prices are high. But just keep in mind, these are big services that we're trying to offer in unlimited quantities. Auction pricing isn't a good baseline to work with on both sides of the spectrum. Yes, the person who gets the first of any of these will get the best bargain. But you can buy them at your leisure instead of bidding on a single one. This new system allows anyone who would have gone up more in hindsight that ability.
If this method doesn't work out, or pricing is too steep, we adjust and move on to the next run. This event is touch and go. It's the most volatile event experience I've ever had to work on. And one where I can't keep up with both demand and expectations. We'll continue to monitor and discuss pricing before the Sunday event, but we're comfortable with the pricing from both a game balance perspective and being offered in most cases in unlimited supply.
This is the event's 5th run. We try to offer enough outside this high-end portion to be entertaining as well.
Wyrom, APM
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 3357
Author: SIMU-WYROM
Date: 4/28/2016
Subject: The List with Pricing
>>Some clarity may be in order before people spend $34,00 on undead bane.
Here's the skinny on undead bane.
It hits undead no matter what, like permablessed. But it doesn't always translate to hitting demons. Other thresholds have to be met.
The confusion mostly stems on demons in general. We only have 4 demons, and they aren't common occurrences. Demons have a barrier or have special abilities when they are on their plane. If the barrier is destroyed, you don't need an 8x weapon. Demons require a holy weapons. Not all undead bane is holy. Not all demon bane is holy.
Wyrom, APM
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 3358
Author: SIMU-WYROM
Date: 4/28/2016
Subject: The List with Pricing
One last word (well a few paragraphs) from me.
I'll discuss pricing a little further after the initial reaction. I don't foresee a lot changing, but I do sympathize a bit with everyone's concerns. So don't feel these are set in stone. Just wet cement. We got some time before it dries.
One thing that might be overlooked is surcharges, restrictions, and limitations. The bloodscrip buy doesn't really have those. So while Bob the Warrior might have some plain 8x full plate he wants to add +5 padding to, Gilgamesh might have some 8x armor with much more padding, resistance, and it's Ithzir Armor. Gilgamesh and Bob will pay the same price here. Where in silvers, Gilgamesh would likely need to take a loan from Ardwen, Speaker, and Ciston.
But try not to panic too much. We'll see what we can do.
Wyrom, APM
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 3395
Author: GS4-ESTILD
Date: 04/28/2016
Subject: The List with Pricing
| VANKRASN39 |
| Unfortunately it's the only method being offered since CCF to improve high end gear. I'd like to finish my project and be mostly done with rat races like this, but at the same time I'm not going to allow myself to be completely ripped off. Also if you only allow 1x acuity, and in the next event go up to 2x per service (like was done at RTCF), it makes getting 1x completely irrelevant, so yeah, frustration. |
Acuity should have never been offered as +2 steps from a single service. It's a lot like enchanting, when it's offered, it should only take you up one step (+5) at a time. I specifically designed acuity such that it would take up to 10 services to maximize, if you're starting from scratch. However, as I told Wyrom last night, the service has actually become too rare. Instead of it offering +2 steps, it needs to be +1, but be offered more frequently. Admittedly, getting up to 10x is still going to be limited and difficult, just as with most high end services.
GameMaster Estild
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 3409
Author: SIMU-WYROM
Date: 4/28/2016
Subject: The List with Pricing
>>Duskruin was super fun when it came out. The arena and sewers were a great time, if you wanted to spend the cash for it and a few runs here and there weren't going to break the bank by any means. The insanely over-the-top prices for high end gear, however, take it from being something fun to something you have to really work at. Then, even if you do work at it, some guy with more free time or more money gets the high end items anyway, so you've just wasted your time. The prices for some of the other unlimited items at duskruin are so out there crazy stupid that that even more discourages. 1k for a writable book? I don't care if I can choose a solid gold cover, I'm not paying that. Somewhere after the first run or two of duskruin it went, to me, from something fun that comes around sometimes to some horrific grinding nightmare that is all anyone talks about for the entire time it's around. The inclusion of the pendants, particularly the rarity of them, increases this. I have no desire to go to duskruin anymore, much less log in to listen to it all. I like the raffle idea someone proposed. Everyone has a chance at some preferably non-insane cost and you can do other things and still have a chance to win a cool item/service than just grind away for hours and days on end.
I appreciate opinions like this, because it shows how things have changed.
Sit down everyone, it's storytime.
When Duskruin moved into a microtrans (SimuCoin) event, it was priced around an EG, in terms of what you'd need to earn to be able to buy up a lot of stuff. The NerveRot staves were kind of a "let's see if something like this would sell." And sell they did. You can read how people hated the idea of limited items. Some of the bigger supporters of Duskruin too. Each run we threw more and more stuff in just to see what people would want. We tried to price things in two ways. We came up with a benchmark for most things being 1000 bloodscrip = $10 = 1 million silver. Obviously that's not the exact case. The average earnings between both the arena and sewers is much higher than 100 bloodscrip and silvers don't necessarily go for $10/per mil. Then we have the bigger tiered items that are closer to what they sell for in the open market. Maybe you can turn a profit, probably more a purchase for your own wants/needs. But we've been trying to return to the unlimited sale models with a catch. This run is our attempt to do that.
The concept offers people some benefits, but it is a pay event. And everything is locked behind a pay wall. So in the design, we made bloodscrip a "paper" currency. The original idea was to be like blackscrip and add directly to your character. The original concept of scrip was only to do it this way. So it was a chance we took to create a secondary currency. This allowed people to trade, sell, and buy bloodscrip if they chose to. At the time, we discussed housing everything in one event currency, but due to how other events were already planned and how Troubled Waters was already done under a completely different pricing model, we had to make a new one. Bloodscrip paved the way for tickets at EG being separate just because we began to feel EG being an "inclusive" event was better.
Before there was the high-end event, there was demand for the high-end event. People were listing crazy big services they'd want and we started thinking we'd try to offer some of it. And even before this happened, people were amassing a lot of bloodscrip. We don't want a secondary dead currency, so we wanted to keep things fresh. This is where sustaining Duskruin will be taxing if we run it too much. But even before this April run, I was being asked when we'll run it after. We ran it too much in 2015, but that's because I screwed up some dates and that's why July and August happened back to back. We wanted to drop one of those events, but there was no winning if I dropped one or the other.
Whether people love it or hate it, people want to do it. Not even the people who buy in a whole lot. Just people who want to try it out for a few bucks. And this was always the hope for it. To be able to appeal to people who thought EG was too expensive. Obviously we have players with deeper pockets. We have players with lots of time. But the event is optional.
As for pricing this run, like the journals being 1000 bloodscrip to complete, they are priced at the going silver rate. If we offered them again in shops, we'd probably sell them around 1 million silvers. We also have the option to sell lower page counts going forward. Big shout out to GM Haliste on the rewrite of these. It was a mess. But speak up on prices. We're pretty comfortable with the pricing structure on a lot of items for sale at the shops. We hit around 2500 for 5x and 10000 for 6x. Price goes up depending on other properties. Another example are the UAC gear. We have one instances of 10000 and another of 12500. But one has disruption flares (not disintegration) and some unlocked (fluff) script. Is it worth the bump, maybe. But we look at shop sales at the end to see what to change, price differently or pull entirely.
But speak up on some prices (in the shops, not the list), and if it warrants a change when we check on it, good chance we'll change it. Not trying to pull anyone who's "out" of Duskruin back in. Just a general you, the players.
Anyway. I'll post the updated list in a little bit.
Wyrom, APM
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 3410
Author: SIMU-WYROM
Date: 4/28/2016
Subject: The List with Pricing
The "fresh-slate" offerings will apply to items that are under the fresh-slate threshold. So if you have +2 weighting, I'll up it to +10. If you have +15 acuity, I'll up it to +30. Hopefully that makes sense.
Non-functional scripts are always a case-by-case situation. But chances are, if it's not extremely linked, it can be removed.
Wyrom, APM
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 3471
Author: SIMU-WYROM
Date: 4/28/2016
Subject: The List with Pricing
>>Just to clarify you can buy a certificate then trade it to a character on another account so that they can use it on their item? Is that correct? With the one service per item limit of course.
Yes, the item is limited to one service, so that's the only thing. Not the character. And you can sell. These WILL expire the day after (May 2nd) so I can redeem them. If we need to go back and forth due to an item, no worries. But no just sitting on them.
Wyrom, APM
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 3474
Author: SIMU-WYROM
Date: 4/28/2016
Subject: The List with Pricing
>>When approximately will this process start? Particularly the part where I can stare at you in the hopes of getting the opportunity to have some epic deepening done.
Sunday in the afternoon the shop will open. We'll plan for 1pm ET. We can leave it open for awhile given the new nature. During that time, I will be redeeming as Lahke. If nothing is being redeemed, I'll work room order. Location of this will be determined and announced closer to the event to help even the playing field.
Wyrom, APM
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 3470
Author: SIMU-WYROM
Date: 4/28/2016
Subject: Updated List and Pricing
Updates are in bold.
| Sale | Type | Price | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|
| Undead Bane | Service | 400,000 | 5 total. |
| Additional Weighting | Service (+5) | 250,000 | Added to currently weighted. |
| scope="row" Fresh-slate Weighting | Service (+10) | 100,000 | Weapons with no weighting. |
| Additional Padding | Service (+5) | 150,000 | Added to currently padded. |
| Fresh-slate Padding | Service (+10) | 25,000 | Armor with no padding. |
| Additional TD | Service (+5) | 250,000 | Can be added to other TD bonuses. |
| Minor Enchant | Service (+5) | 25,000 | 7x and under. |
| Major Enchant | Service (+5) | 100,000 | 8x and over. |
| Additional Acuity Flare | Service (+5) | 25,000 | 10 total. |
| Fresh-slate Acuity Flare | Service (+30) | 50,000 | 10 total. |
| Additional Mana Flare | Service (+1) | 25,000 | 10 total. |
| Fresh-slate Mana Flare | Service (+3) | 50,000 | 10 total. |
| Weight Reduction | Service (+20%) | 75,000 | Adding 20% to weight reduction. |
| Splitting Weapon | Service | 175,000 | Weapon can't be scripted (fluff can be removed). Unlocked with zests. |
| Voln Armor | Service | 150,000 | Armor must be Voln Armor prior. |
| WoundedWear | Service Tier 3 | 50,000 | Unlocking woundedwear to max tier. |
| ChaosJewelry | Premade Tier 3 | 50,000 | The One Ring. But, like, multiples. |
| ChronoFlares | Premade | 100,000 | 5x, vultite. |
| Branding Iron | Premade | 100,000 | Stops the bleeding. |
| Fusion Armor | Premade | 30,000 | +17, HCP, 3-slot. The ones from the Mar and Scar. |
| 12-Setter Gold Ring | Premade | 125,000 | The good stuff. |
| Greater Elemental Flare | Premade | 20,000 | 6x. The ones from the Mar and Scar. |
| Bromin Potion | Premade (40 pours) | 75,000 | 8x Enchanting potions. |
| Aleteh Potion | Premade (40 pours) | 90,000 | 9x Enchanting potions. |
| Grenshol Potion | Premade (40 pours) | 100,000 | 10x Enchanting potions. |
| Pricing will increase per sale from 10% to 50% depending on rarity of service. | |||
These services below are an "as time allows it."
Epic Deepening - Each worn spot may be different in capacity, I'll use cloaks as a base line.
- Albatross (cloak to 160) - 2000 bloodscrip
- RtCF (cloak to 180) - 4000 bloodscrip
- CCF (cloak to 200) - 6000 bloodscrip
Lesser Armor and Weapon Moods - 2500 bloodscrip
Wyrom, APM
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 3532
Author: SIMU-WYROM
Date: 4/29/2016
Subject: Updated List and Pricing
>>Just to clarify, does the minor enchant service apply the same restrictions as regular enchants? Or can we enchant gear that's already padded, weighted, claidhmores, etc.?
Some restrictions may apply, but it would be due to the item in question having enchanting restrictions. Like a chain-spear, for example, is capped at 6x. Buying something with bloodscrip isn't going to lift that sort of restriction. Enchanting a claidhmore? Sure.
Wyrom, APM
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 3536
Author: SIMU-WYROM
Date: 4/29/2016
Subject: Acuity and Mana Service
The acuity and mana services will both be priced the same, 25,000 bloodscrip to start. Thanks goes to GM Estild. Just be ready for the next review!
Wyrom, APM
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 3648
Author: SIMU-WYROM
Date: 5/1/2016
Subject: Today's High Priced Sale
We're an hour out. It's time to spill the beans. We're going to be selling these at the arena itself. A brand new room in there. It will be on the north end. This is where the items will be. There are 4 containers holding the wares. Good luck and godspeed!
Wyrom, APM
MoonShard pendant
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 2822
Author: SIMU-WYROM
Date: 4/18/2016
Subject: Upcoming Details
Moonshards ONLY in the sewers. Moon pendants ONLY in the arena.
Wyrom, APM
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 2825
Author: SIMU-WYROM
Date: 4/18/2016
Subject: Upcoming Details
Moonshards go into the pendant after you make each moon! More details soon! Will make sense once that info is released.
Wyrom, APM
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 3133
Author: SIMU-WYROM
Date: 4/25/2016
Subject: Moonshards/Bloodscrip
Started a new thread for easy searching purposes, but just as an FYI...
If you aren't getting the shards or aren't interested in trying for a pendant, you can sell those shards for bloodscrip. ASK the archaeologist. There's nothing lost here, if you don't want to play in the collectibles game.
~Liia
APM, Gemstone IV
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 3140
Author: SIMU-WYROM
Date: 4/25/2016
Subject: Moonshards/Bloodscrip
The odds of how the moonshards are coming out are exactly where we want them. While I know KITHUS was being helpful, the odds he has proclaimed aren't even remotely accurate, nor are any of the numbers I'm seeing. Platinum was very behind schedule for the first extremely rare pieces to drop, but Prime is ahead of schedule. But for the math folks and player theorycrafters out there, it's a rather simple formula we typically use in many areas of the game. The rarity of each moon is scaled, with Makiri being our most difficult moon to assemble.
There are 6 pendants out there as of right this very moment. Five of them are incomplete. More can be completed right this moment if someone sold/shared their pieces. The collectible system is an additional layer to this event, at no extra cost. While the item is cosmetic in nature, it's a very desired type of item. I'm glad to see people actually want to make them and own one. This sort of creative design was a very much "aha" moment for me when I was brainstorming what we could do to make it a little more interesting. But unfortunately, this isn't something everyone will find or own. Try not to think about the number of times a single person would have to enter, because that's not how this is designed.
Wyrom, APM
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 3240
Author: SIMU-WYROM
Date: 4/26/2016
Subject: DUSKRUIN: MOON PENDANT UPDATE
The pendants have gone through a significant update and are currently live in game.
Existing pendants that aren't completed have been altered to be "a four-ringed metal pendant" going forward. Pendants that are currently out there will update upon ANALYZING it, or various other verbs.
Completed pendants will now randomly change on placing the 4th moon into it to one of 11 different metals. They won't be just kelyn anymore. Four of the metals are considered rare and don't happen as often.
What do these changes do? Well it's cosmetic to the pendant and we have some higher rarity metals in the group (like krodera). It ALSO controls the color of the haze. Kelyn has been updated to give an incandescent green haze. Something like black ora gives a sinister black haze. Each metal gives a unique color.
You cannot alter the material of a pendant, so it's completely random which it will transform to upon completion! Enjoy the hunt!
To everyone who already has completed a pendant, please email me so we can update your pendant. People with incomplete pendants do not need any sort of GM intervention.
Huge thank you to GM Haliste and two Platinum players for the idea.
Wyrom, APM
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 3247
Author: SIMU-WYROM
Date: 4/26/2016
Subject: DUSKRUIN: MOON PENDANT UPDATE
The metals are all pretty nice. In terms of rarity, I'm using common and rare relative to the item. You won't find steel.
Wyrom, APM
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 3252
Author: SIMU-WYROM
Date: 4/27/2016
Subject: DUSKRUIN: MOON PENDANT UPDATE
The moonshards will be available, at the very least, at the next Duskruin run. We will continue to monitor the system on a case-by-case to see how long it will exist in its current form. It might undergo updates for next time as well.
Wyrom, APM
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 3715
Author: SIMU-WYROM
Date: 5/4/2016
Subject: Moon Pendants
>>I wonder if it would be possible to make sure no duplicate metals go out per run?
It's a rarity chart, so you'll see more of the "common" ones. Prime only saw 1 rare that I'm aware of. But two of them can still be made, and I know parts are being sold to at least one.
>>Do you have a full metal list off hand?
"Common"
Eahnor
Eonake
Faenor
Golvern
Veil Iron
Kelyn
Veniom
"Rare"
Black ora
White ora
Alexandrite
Krodera
Wyrom, APM
WoundedWear
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 2828
Author: GS4-RETSER
Date: 4/19/2016
Subject: WoundedWear Updates and Duskruin availability!
Hello Everyone!
I'm pleased to announce a couple of updates for WoundedWear. Wounded wear will also be available off the shelf at duskruin, hurrah!
FOR EVERYONE:
WoundedWear's CLEAN time has been dropped from 5 to 3.
I've added in a couple new verbs for T2, and T3 owners. These are fluffy, give your items an analyze!
All the references from your item have been changed from a noun to the adjective and noun.
LET IT SHOWWW, LET IT SHOWWW!
We also have a few new additions to the WoundedWear clothing line.
Introducing, Neck worn!
Ever wanted a bloody Cravat, Bowtie, or Scarf? How about a leather gorget or aventail?
Now is your chance to own your very own WoundedWear neck accessory!
wear my crav
You hang your silk cravat around your neck and tighten the knot, crying out pitifully. Fashion has its price!
remove crav
You untie the knot on your silk cravat and slip it from around your neck, crying out pitifully. Free from the painful clutches of fashion!
...and so much more!
Also introducing the neck worn's closest friend, ZEE EYES!
ZEE GOGGLES, ZEY DO NOTHING!
No really, they really don't.
These will not auto-tend your eyes or bleed ambiently. However, they have some fun fluff messaging. They will also change appearance with wound levels like the rest of the line.
You can also not TEND your eyes. SORRY!
Some samples:
wear my gog
You are already wearing some leather goggles.
push my gog
You push your leather goggles up to your forehead and glance around the area.
pull my gog
You pull your leather goggles off your head and spit on the lens before rubbing them clean.
cover gog
You reach up and cover your leather goggles over your eyes; the world is hideous.
remove gog
You pull your leather goggles off of your head.
poke my gog
You poke at your leather goggles; good thing you have eye protection!
pose my gog
You place a hand on your leather goggles and raise the other high in a dramatic guesture.
rub my gog
You give your leather goggles a thorough inspection and glance up hoping no one was watching.
wear my spec
You lift your thin spectacles and put them on your face, blinking at the newfound clarity.
push my spec
You push your thin spectacles up by the bridge, adjusting the fit on your face.
pull my spec
You pull your thin spectacles down from your nose, glancing around.
remove my spec
You lift your thin spectacles off of your face.
Lastly, we have the final contender of: Cloaks/Jackets/THINGS AKA the back!
Eennnjjoooyyyy!
-Retser-
Quest Guru
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 2830
Author: GS4-RETSER
Date: 4/19/2016
Subject: WoundedWear Updates and Duskruin availability!
All WoundedWear will be unlocked to T2 off the shelf.
We will be doing some limited quantities of T3.
-Retser-
Quest Guru
ChaosJewelry
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 2831
Author: GS4-RETSER
Date: 04/19/2016
Subject: Chaos Jewelry Available at Duskruin!
Hello Everyone, I'd like to introduce you all to Chaos Jewelry.
This will be available unlocked to T2 at Duskruin and off the shelf!
This is a multiple tier unlockable jewelry line. Each tier that you unlock will allow you more control over your jewelry.
After wearing it, once every five minutes the appearance will change. Most of this can be customized by a skilled merchant.
It will also shift between different worn locations.
Your earring pulses with energy, the pulsing fades and a shining brass bracelet accented with a diamond remains.
This can be stopped by interacting with your jewelry.
With the final and auction level unlock the jewelry will render you invisible at the cost of spirit. This is a continued drain...
You place your fist against your ring and feel chaotic energy surround you.
You feel drained as you vanish!
You feel your knees weaken and your arms grow heavy, as the world seems to turn a cold color of grey.
You feel drained as the invisibility continues!
remove ring
You break into a sweat as you pry your ring off. Your skin tingles as a chaotic voice reverberates in your mind, "Your soul will be mine next time!"
You break free of your invisibility.
Roundtime: 3 sec.
The jewelry is also kind of a diva and in need of a snickers bar.
There will also be a select number of T3 versions of these going out this Duskruin.
ENJOY!
PS: Ride on an eagle and drop this bad boy into Mount Retser immediately. Do not take the long route!
-Retser-
Quest Guru
Topic: Duskruin Arena
Message #: 3525
Author: GS4-RETSER
Date: 04/29/2016
Subject: Chaos Jewelry - Teased, the SQL
For those of you that missed the original post with some information,
Most of this is from the analyze.
Chaos Jewelry randomizes a combination of 3 articles, 3 materials, 4 gems, and 5 worn locations/nouns.
As your jewelry gets unlocked, it can be altered and controlled more.
At the final tier the jewelry can render the wearer invisible at the cost of spirit.
To alter it, provide a gem, a material, or a short adjective to describe your jewelry.
It can be; earring, ring, band, bracelet, amulet. This is not customizable.
You can customize the metals/materials.
You can customize the gems.
You can customize the adjective at the start.
At T0 you don't have much control over it and it will randomly update once every 5 minutes.
At T1 you get some verbs that let you play with it more.
At T2 you get some verbs that let you play with it more.
AT T3 it is auction unlocked and can render you invisible at the cost of spirit. This may steal your soul if you let it.
analyze my band
You analyze your gold band and sense that the item is largely free from merchant alteration restrictions.
The creator has also provided the following information:
A chaotic voice reverberates throughout your mind...
I am unlocked to the first tier.
You can PUSH, PULL, POKE and tap me to change how I look.
You can RUB me to change my appearance. You can COVER me to turn on and off my changes.
You can have me altered but only by special people, listen to their rules."
The voice continues...
"I have the following gems available to you,
First Gem: a diamond
Second Gem: an emerald
Third Gem: a blue sapphire
Fourth Gem: a ruby"
"I have the following materials available to you,
First Material: gold
Second Material: silver
Third Material: platinum"
"I will describe myself as,
a bright band
a dull band
a shining band"
The chaotic voice fades from your mind.
-Retser-
Quest Guru