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CLTIDBALL is only partly right below. There's a +50 skill enhancive cap, so you still can't reach 380 ranks. Thus Tier 5 can be removed. --[[User:CARSYN|CARSYN]]

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I think this article incorrectly refers to "RANKS = hindrance * 20" (in various forms) where it should read "SKILL = hindrance * 20" (in various forms). I've played Gemstone for for 8 of the last 11 years but I've only played for 30 days in the last 3 years, so I'm not confident that this suggestion is 100% accurate.
I think this article incorrectly refers to "RANKS = hindrance * 20" (in various forms) where it should read "SKILL = hindrance * 20" (in various forms). I've played Gemstone for for 8 of the last 11 years but I've only played for 30 days in the last 3 years, so I'm not confident that this suggestion is 100% accurate.


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Why are there ranks of armor training under the spell hinderances if they can never actually be trained off?
Why are there ranks of armor training under the spell hinderances if they can never actually be trained off?
--[[User:SDANIEL|SDANIEL]] 12:53, 21 February 2010 (EST)
--[[User:SDANIEL|SDANIEL]] 12:53, 21 February 2010 (EST)

Nevermind, I found out the answer to my question by looking at the armor page on play.net --[[User:SDANIEL|SDANIEL]] 14:10, 21 February 2010 (EST)

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Tiers 4 and 5 in the overtraining benefits can be removed. It's impossible to get that many ranks of armor use.

Tier 4 of the overtraining benefits can be attained with enhancives. Tier 5, however cannot. [[User:CLTIDBALL|CLTIDBALL]] ([[User talk:CLTIDBALL|talk]]) 15:03, 6 November 2015 (CST)

== AP tables not consistent ==

The two tables on this page show different requirements for the action/maneuver penalty. The quoted explanation from GM Coase implies that the maneuver penalty is fully trained off at the same time as the RT adder (augmented breastplate only needs 90 ranks to reach -25 AP), instead of requiring 100 ranks. Which is the correct value? [[User:ZHOUY1|ZHOUY1]] ([[User talk:ZHOUY1|talk]]) 17:47, 25 January 2017 (CST)

: Good news! This has been resolved! See the section below... [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 13:45, 29 July 2020 (CDT)

== Maneuver Penalty Skill Training is ((Roundtime Penalty * 20) - 10) ==

Please visit the [[Talk:Armor|Armor discussion page]] to see the reasoning behind this change. [[User:WINTERDAWN|WINTERDAWN]] ([[User talk:WINTERDAWN|talk]]) 13:45, 29 July 2020 (CDT)

Latest revision as of 12:45, 29 July 2020

CLTIDBALL is only partly right below. There's a +50 skill enhancive cap, so you still can't reach 380 ranks. Thus Tier 5 can be removed. --CARSYN


I think this article incorrectly refers to "RANKS = hindrance * 20" (in various forms) where it should read "SKILL = hindrance * 20" (in various forms). I've played Gemstone for for 8 of the last 11 years but I've only played for 30 days in the last 3 years, so I'm not confident that this suggestion is 100% accurate.

You are 100% correct. Fixed that and added some clarity about action penalty. Some poor phrasing in there. - DaCapn


Why are there ranks of armor training under the spell hinderances if they can never actually be trained off? --SDANIEL 12:53, 21 February 2010 (EST)

Nevermind, I found out the answer to my question by looking at the armor page on play.net --SDANIEL 14:10, 21 February 2010 (EST)


Tiers 4 and 5 in the overtraining benefits can be removed. It's impossible to get that many ranks of armor use.

Tier 4 of the overtraining benefits can be attained with enhancives. Tier 5, however cannot. CLTIDBALL (talk) 15:03, 6 November 2015 (CST)

AP tables not consistent

The two tables on this page show different requirements for the action/maneuver penalty. The quoted explanation from GM Coase implies that the maneuver penalty is fully trained off at the same time as the RT adder (augmented breastplate only needs 90 ranks to reach -25 AP), instead of requiring 100 ranks. Which is the correct value? ZHOUY1 (talk) 17:47, 25 January 2017 (CST)

Good news! This has been resolved! See the section below... WINTERDAWN (talk) 13:45, 29 July 2020 (CDT)

Maneuver Penalty Skill Training is ((Roundtime Penalty * 20) - 10)

Please visit the Armor discussion page to see the reasoning behind this change. WINTERDAWN (talk) 13:45, 29 July 2020 (CDT)