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The only problem I see with the new formating is that it isn't easy at all for someone to add to the lists without having a pretty intricate knowledge html table formating. The other way the table was set up is much easier for someone with little knowledge to go through, look at how it is set up, and copy the general syntax to add a recipe. I would personally prefer the PrettyTable formating. [[User:DRIZZT-12|Adam]] <sup>[[User talk:DRIZZT-12|talk]]</sup> 08:58, 17 April 2008 (EDT) |
The only problem I see with the new formating is that it isn't easy at all for someone to add to the lists without having a pretty intricate knowledge html table formating. The other way the table was set up is much easier for someone with little knowledge to go through, look at how it is set up, and copy the general syntax to add a recipe. I would personally prefer the PrettyTable formating. [[User:DRIZZT-12|Adam]] <sup>[[User talk:DRIZZT-12|talk]]</sup> 08:58, 17 April 2008 (EDT) |
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- Which is why the update on 2/18/09 was necessary - the alternating colored rows, etc, are so code-messy that I was afraid to tinker with it. [[User:GREYCROISSANT|GREYCROISSANT]] 10:31, 19 February 2009 (EST) |
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== List of non-alchemist spells == |
== List of non-alchemist spells == |
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I want to take out all of the spell circles that aren't accessible by the four alchemist classes. Since the alchemist has to know the spell to chant it (even self-knowledge items don't work for alchemy), these spells won't ever be used and are really cluttering up an already cluttered page. |
I want to take out all of the spell circles that aren't accessible by the four alchemist classes. Since the alchemist has to know the spell to chant it (even self-knowledge items don't work for alchemy), these spells won't ever be used and are really cluttering up an already cluttered page.[[User:MILQUETOAST|MILQUETOAST]] 22:46, 16 June 2008 (EDT) |
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: That sounds like a great idea to me. They can always be added back later if it so happens that the semi's can start learning alchemy too. [[User:DRIZZT-12|Adam]] <sup>[[User talk:DRIZZT-12|talk]]</sup> 22:44, 16 June 2008 (EDT) |
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== Clean-up == |
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I'm considering cleaning up this page. This might include:<br> |
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Making the tables simpler to edit<br> |
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Removing the two-tone rows, taking into consideration that recipes are still being added, etc.<br> |
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Removing the xx, leaving an empty space instead.<br> |
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Removing the Est. Cost/Sell column<br> |
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Input? [[User:KAGE|KAGE]] 21:11, 11 August 2011 (EDT) |
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Wasn't really considering adding any color here, but it looks like the Potions and Trinkets tables would benefit both from sorting (professions and spell number) and color-coding the professions column. Thoughts? [[User:KAGE|KAGE]] 21:29, 11 August 2011 (EDT) |
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:I've completed what I set out to do. The main tables should be easier to edit now. Also added sorting to the Potions and Trinkets tables. I did not feel that it was necessary to add color-coding to the professions columns, as there are only four professions involved at the moment. I mainly left the Matrix tables alone, as editing really hasn't been an issue with those. The spacing on the editing page is a bit messy now - it didn't strike me as overly important, but let me know if it's a hindrance. [[User:KAGE|KAGE]] 10:03, 20 August 2011 (EDT) |
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== General Alchemy Levels? == |
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The way General Alchemy is broken down into levels may be confusing for new alchemists. For instance, tincture of torban is listed from levels 1-14, but you can actually make this tincture until rank 25. While it is learned at level 13, it isn't the only level you can make it. If I were new to alchemy, looking at the levels, I would think 1-14 meant at 14, I need to start looking at the 15-29 list. |
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Also, this recipe list is only directly linked on the Alchemy page once. In the final step of a recipe, under ALCHEMY SEAL. |
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:Please sign your comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. The ranks are broken down like that because (1) it needed to be broken down in some manner, and (2) those are the ranks at which one learns new skills (Extract, Infuse, and Refract). Since all Refract recipes will take you to master, and it did not need to be broken down after only 5 more ranks for Channel. In terms of sorting by final rank, unfortunately the GMs did not make the ending ranks uniform. On the Alchemy page, the list is also linked on the navigation box at the bottom of the page. If you see a page in a navigation box, it is important to that topic. If one cannot read the header columns in each part of the table, and the end rank on every recipe page, I cannot help that. If you feel it needs a note at the top, I'm not opposed. Also, in some cases, hitting those thresholds should dictate the way they do alchemy, as not switching to essence shards for tough recipes/infuse from 30-34 is a huge mistake. The breakdown is also consistent with every category listing (e.g. [[empath trinkets]]). [[User:VANKRASN39|VANKRASN39]] ([[User talk:VANKRASN39|talk]]) 09:00, 15 September 2017 (CDT) |
Latest revision as of 08:40, 15 September 2017
The only problem I see with the new formating is that it isn't easy at all for someone to add to the lists without having a pretty intricate knowledge html table formating. The other way the table was set up is much easier for someone with little knowledge to go through, look at how it is set up, and copy the general syntax to add a recipe. I would personally prefer the PrettyTable formating. Adam talk 08:58, 17 April 2008 (EDT)
- Which is why the update on 2/18/09 was necessary - the alternating colored rows, etc, are so code-messy that I was afraid to tinker with it. GREYCROISSANT 10:31, 19 February 2009 (EST)
List of non-alchemist spells
I want to take out all of the spell circles that aren't accessible by the four alchemist classes. Since the alchemist has to know the spell to chant it (even self-knowledge items don't work for alchemy), these spells won't ever be used and are really cluttering up an already cluttered page.MILQUETOAST 22:46, 16 June 2008 (EDT)
- That sounds like a great idea to me. They can always be added back later if it so happens that the semi's can start learning alchemy too. Adam talk 22:44, 16 June 2008 (EDT)
Clean-up
I'm considering cleaning up this page. This might include:
Making the tables simpler to edit
Removing the two-tone rows, taking into consideration that recipes are still being added, etc.
Removing the xx, leaving an empty space instead.
Removing the Est. Cost/Sell column
Input? KAGE 21:11, 11 August 2011 (EDT)
Wasn't really considering adding any color here, but it looks like the Potions and Trinkets tables would benefit both from sorting (professions and spell number) and color-coding the professions column. Thoughts? KAGE 21:29, 11 August 2011 (EDT)
- I've completed what I set out to do. The main tables should be easier to edit now. Also added sorting to the Potions and Trinkets tables. I did not feel that it was necessary to add color-coding to the professions columns, as there are only four professions involved at the moment. I mainly left the Matrix tables alone, as editing really hasn't been an issue with those. The spacing on the editing page is a bit messy now - it didn't strike me as overly important, but let me know if it's a hindrance. KAGE 10:03, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
General Alchemy Levels?
The way General Alchemy is broken down into levels may be confusing for new alchemists. For instance, tincture of torban is listed from levels 1-14, but you can actually make this tincture until rank 25. While it is learned at level 13, it isn't the only level you can make it. If I were new to alchemy, looking at the levels, I would think 1-14 meant at 14, I need to start looking at the 15-29 list.
Also, this recipe list is only directly linked on the Alchemy page once. In the final step of a recipe, under ALCHEMY SEAL.
- Please sign your comments with ~~~~. The ranks are broken down like that because (1) it needed to be broken down in some manner, and (2) those are the ranks at which one learns new skills (Extract, Infuse, and Refract). Since all Refract recipes will take you to master, and it did not need to be broken down after only 5 more ranks for Channel. In terms of sorting by final rank, unfortunately the GMs did not make the ending ranks uniform. On the Alchemy page, the list is also linked on the navigation box at the bottom of the page. If you see a page in a navigation box, it is important to that topic. If one cannot read the header columns in each part of the table, and the end rank on every recipe page, I cannot help that. If you feel it needs a note at the top, I'm not opposed. Also, in some cases, hitting those thresholds should dictate the way they do alchemy, as not switching to essence shards for tough recipes/infuse from 30-34 is a huge mistake. The breakdown is also consistent with every category listing (e.g. empath trinkets). VANKRASN39 (talk) 09:00, 15 September 2017 (CDT)