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If G is just T straight up, there's no call for special substitution rule of gh=tt, since both g and h would be t naturally. This may be another mark in favor of G=T.
If G is just T straight up, there's no call for special substitution rule of gh=tt, since both g and h would be t naturally. This may be another mark in favor of G=T.
[[User:MOURNE|MOURNE]] ([[User talk:MOURNE|talk]]) 07:52, 2 February 2018 (CST)
[[User:MOURNE|MOURNE]] ([[User talk:MOURNE|talk]]) 07:52, 2 February 2018 (CST)



*If G were T(fem) and TE (masc) though, then we have these:
** tate: t=h, a=u, te=g. ''Hug.'' Instead of t=h, a=u, te=g, ie=e tateie/huge. Excessive vowel droppage?
** teuod: te=g, u=o, o=a, d=t. Makes ''Goat'' clearly in that rule.
** tzaor: tz=sh, a=o, o=u, r=t -- ''Shout.'' Instead of she-goat literally as ''tzi-tuor,'' tz=sh, i=e, t=g, u=o, o=a, r=t. Error or easter egg? [[User:NAAMIT|NAAMIT]] ([[User talk:NAAMIT|talk]]) 14:00, 2 February 2018 (CST)



==O==
==O==
:Question of whether O may also translate as eu, not just u.
:Question of whether O may also translate as eu, not just u.
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[[User:MOURNE|MOURNE]] ([[User talk:MOURNE|talk]]) 07:52, 2 February 2018 (CST)
[[User:MOURNE|MOURNE]] ([[User talk:MOURNE|talk]]) 07:52, 2 February 2018 (CST)


* re: Teuriz. if G were T(fem) and TE (masc), then te=g u=o, null=d, r=l, i=e z=ss?
[[User:NAAMIT|NAAMIT]] ([[User talk:NAAMIT|talk]]) 14:00, 2 February 2018 (CST)


==ST[R]==
==ST[R]==
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*vur = strong, v=st(r?), u=o, r=ng
*vur = strong, v=st(r?), u=o, r=ng
[[User:MOURNE|MOURNE]] ([[User talk:MOURNE|talk]]) 07:52, 2 February 2018 (CST)
[[User:MOURNE|MOURNE]] ([[User talk:MOURNE|talk]]) 07:52, 2 February 2018 (CST)


==Oddities==

* On Zomjii/Zhomjii: 'tankee' and 'thankee' are quite informal but one could also consider: ''zhomjz'' for thanks, ''uzhomj-aua'' for ''I thank you.''
* Possible error in official word list. The word for 'knife', ''meiv'', should be ''miev'' or ''muv''?
* Possible error in official word list. The word for 'Liabo', ''Ufura'', translates directly as ''ivoty'' or ''ivoly''. Should be ''Ufuba'' assuming that u(i), f(v), u(o), b(r) a(y).
[[User:NAAMIT|NAAMIT]] ([[User talk:NAAMIT|talk]]) 14:00, 2 February 2018 (CST)

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G

There's some extra question around the translation of G, as tu/te or just T.

Examples from official:

  • qut = big (appears to be just T)
  • tate = huge (huge should be tati if G=T, or tatui/tatei if G=TU/TE. May be running into a 'drop vowel if X' rule)
  • tudy = girl (appears to be just T)
  • teuod = goat (Here we may overlap with a potential eu=o, that Xorus brought up)
  • tzaor = she-goat (while sh=tz, we seem to be missing some letters here, so this might have been massaged/there may be structure rules I'm not seeing.)

If G is just T straight up, there's no call for special substitution rule of gh=tt, since both g and h would be t naturally. This may be another mark in favor of G=T. MOURNE (talk) 07:52, 2 February 2018 (CST)


  • If G were T(fem) and TE (masc) though, then we have these:
    • tate: t=h, a=u, te=g. Hug. Instead of t=h, a=u, te=g, ie=e tateie/huge. Excessive vowel droppage?
    • teuod: te=g, u=o, o=a, d=t. Makes Goat clearly in that rule.
    • tzaor: tz=sh, a=o, o=u, r=t -- Shout. Instead of she-goat literally as tzi-tuor, tz=sh, i=e, t=g, u=o, o=a, r=t. Error or easter egg? NAAMIT (talk) 14:00, 2 February 2018 (CST)


O

Question of whether O may also translate as eu, not just u.

Examples that support may be overlapping with G, which is also in question above.

  • teuriz = godless, but is the o=eu or u?

MOURNE (talk) 07:52, 2 February 2018 (CST)

  • re: Teuriz. if G were T(fem) and TE (masc), then te=g u=o, null=d, r=l, i=e z=ss?

NAAMIT (talk) 14:00, 2 February 2018 (CST)

ST[R]

Uncertain on whether the ST substitution (v) is also the same as an STR substitution (otherwise vd/vb)

Argument for:

  • vur = strong, v=st(r?), u=o, r=ng

MOURNE (talk) 07:52, 2 February 2018 (CST)


Oddities

  • On Zomjii/Zhomjii: 'tankee' and 'thankee' are quite informal but one could also consider: zhomjz for thanks, uzhomj-aua for I thank you.
  • Possible error in official word list. The word for 'knife', meiv, should be miev or muv?
  • Possible error in official word list. The word for 'Liabo', Ufura, translates directly as ivoty or ivoly. Should be Ufuba assuming that u(i), f(v), u(o), b(r) a(y).

NAAMIT (talk) 14:00, 2 February 2018 (CST)