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The Situation (2015)

Category: Discussions with Simutronics
Topic: The Bad, and the Ugly (general complaints)
Message #: 13492
Author: GS4-WYROM
Date: 11/16/2015 11:35 AM EST
Subject: Re: Player shops

>>I wasn't looking for people to revamp the Player Shops themselves, i just want to know what's going on with them!

The reasoning for playershops being shut down is due to having suffered from a severe bug. As many knew, the shops were checked at midnight CT at the end/beginning of the month to see if you should keep your shop. You had to meet two requirements, that you visited your shop as well as interacted with a SHOP command inside and you paid your rent. If you didn't meet those requirements, the system looped through all your inventory and packed up your items. It cleaned out the shop of any personal alterations (like shop name), and put the deed back on the market. Most people toward the end were just farming deeds to sell because they knew how it worked.

At some point during this process, the shops were blowing up, deleting inventory, breaking the rooms, trapping players, and deleting player crates. And then when this happened, it didn't finish the process of checking shops. Other oddities were starting to happen. The decision was to shut down the rent collector portion of the system so it didn't check anything. That's why Prime is rent free. We've had several people work on the system, with our last lead on it with hundreds of coding hours into the rewrite to fix these issues, as well as give major overhauls to some much needed areas. Something came up though. One of the scripts were overwritten by mistake, deleting months of work. No offline copy existed due to a number of factors, and well, it slowed it down. He managed to fix it, but it was never fully tested. Then he left staff shortly after.

Training up staff to take it over is hit or miss. Sleken has tried to get a few people on it. But getting someone up to speed on GSL and then onto someone else's project in a hobbyist programming language that is completely unique to the IFEs (That's what GS is) is not as easy as you'd think. It's not like I can just put someone on it, they have to be skilled and experienced enough to understand the project. They also have to go into someone else's work and debug, learning it for themselves. Sometimes this is easy, most times it's not.

This is where we're at. We want to get this out as much as you all want it.

~Wyrom, APM

The Fixing (2017)

Category: Game Design Discussions
Topic: Player-Run Shops
Message #: 487
Author: GS4-RETSER
Date: 05/10/2017 12:42 PM EDT
Subject: Playershop Updates

Hey Everyone, for those of you that missed it we finished a stability test in our test environment. This test was being conducted since my last batch of "open testing" that some of you participated in. I concurrently pushed these updates in with our fresh copy of test from prime; with no issues. That being said, barring no major issues, we're ready to move forward with the updates to playershops. I'm going to explain what happens from here, the phases, and what this means to you.

General Information

All players will have until Monday, May 15th to login and visit their shop. You will need to make sure that you have silver in your shop in order to account for the rent. Single room shops are 10k and three room shops are 30k. Shop rent will be drawn monthly, if you are 3 months behind in your rent your shop will be closed for eviction. The playershop system evaluates if the owner or a partner has entered the threshold within the last 90 days. You can check in by entering the shop and entering the SHOP command. After 90 days, your shop will be evicted.

A lot of you are going to be asking, I want a shop, how do I get a shop? Starting phase 3 you will be able to purchase shops again. There won't be a shortage of shops, so don't panic. There are 679 shops and of which 462 are abandoned with my latest test from prime.

Phase 1

Starting Monday the 15th, all shops will start paying rent. All shops that have not been visited within 90 days will be closed for eviction. Owners will have 30 days to visit closed shops before they will be evicted during this process.

Phase 2

Starting June the 15th, all abandoned shops as outlined above will be evicted and removed. This phase will take approximately 2 weeks.

Phase 3

Once all the evicted shops have been handled I will slowly start opening permit sales in all the realms. This will allow players to visit the local shop warehouse, buy a permit, and CLAIM a shop. The method of release is under discussion, but there will most likely be more than enough shops to just open it up and let those who want one, buy one.

Phase 4

From here, the shop system will remain in its updated state. Rent monthly will be drawn every 30 days. If you do not visit your shop within 90 days, you will be evicted. If you do not pay your rent for 90 days, you will be evicted.

Phase 1

Category: Game Design Discussions
Topic: Player-Run Shops
Message #: 615
Author: GS4-RETSER
Date: 05/16/2017 06:12 PM EDT
Subject: Re: Playershop Updates

Hello everyone, a few updates and notes.

First, I've updated the policy on PARTNERS and OWNERS. You can view the policy by using SHOP POLICY.

You will now find the following item:

4) If a shop owner fails to check into their shop for 90 days the partner can take over the shop by means of an ASSIST. If more than one partner is on the shop, all partners will need to give consent to a single partner. If an agreement cannot be made, the shop will be evicted. If the original owner returns, they cannot reclaim the shop from the new owner without their consent. This will be handled in a case by case situation and is not a guarantee.

In the near future, I'll be working a way to automate this process. These changes are in effect as of 5/15/2017.

Shop Notifications PREMIUM ONLY

All premium subscribers can now enjoy shop notifications. If you are a premium subscriber, you must enter and exit your shop to refresh your premium status on it. This is held for 30 days before needing to be refreshed again. At this time, all partners will also receive the benefit of the owner's premium status. You will not see this message if your offline, they will not be stored. If you are online and an item sells, you will receive a message like this:

Your kroderine full plate just sold for 5000 silvers from the simple shop. After tax you made 4849 silvers!


Effective immediately, all shop owners will have access to the following two commands.


This command will let you see the last 5 items to sell in your shop.

It will display the item name, the price, and the amount after tax.


Sales Report (last five items sold):
Item: some kroderine full plate - Price: 5000 silvers silvers - After Tax: 4849 silvers
Item: some kroderine full plate - Price: 5000 silvers - After Tax: 4849 silvers
Item: a vultite broadsword - Price: 50000 silvers - After Tax: 48485 silvers
Item: a vultite dagger - Price: 25000 silvers - After Tax: 24243 silvers
Item: a tiny red volcano - Price: 5000 silvers - After Tax: 4849 silvers


This command will let you get a general shop listing.


Shop Entry: a simple shop

Shop Owner: Retser

Shop partners:

Shop details:

Total silver in shop: 165968

Time until next Rent collection: 

Time since last OWNER checkin: 1 minute

Time since last SHOP checkin: 1 minute

Banned from the simple shop:

Thanks As a final note, thank you all for your patience during this. There is still a lot of work to be done.

Retser, ASGM