Talk:Planar Shift (740)

Planar Rift Move

I edited the redirects "Planar Shifting" and "740" manually, and expect the bot to make a new "Planar Rift" redirect. *SammichKing*..who?..wha? 16:11, 13 February 2006 (PST)

Go 740!

Alright . . . this is my first contribution. I realize from talking to KDLMAJERE that its an absolute mess, but I'm totally willing to change anything and everything thats wrong with it. Basically, I was asked to put this up, and the whole process went from simple request to incredibly complicated task beyond what I expected. So this one is how I learn I guess. I have no idea whatsoever about any kind of editing etiquette there is, so Ulthripe, I hope taking those lines out of what you had up before isn't a problem, obviously, it can be reversed (I didn't even know about the discussion page until after I had changed it). Basically, if what KDLMAJERE has to say about the whole thing is correct, then I will be seeing lots of changes to this. Just let me know what I did wrong.

I dont think you've done anything 'wrong' here, your information is concise and pertinant. I dont know if I would have this much information on the spell's main page, though. Try looking at some of the other spell pages to get an idea of how much or how little information should be there. I would personally consider your explanation thorough, yet wordy. This particular page I left it very bare bones intentionally, since the spell doesnt even exist yet, none of these 'facts' are even concrete. I hope one of the sysops will make a comment here as to how appropriate your additions are. ULTHRIPE 01:02, 11 January 2006 (CST)

Just did a quick copyedit. In general, the article was fine. A bit of unneeded rhetoric here and there, but that's bound to happen. You should take a look at the style guide we have and read through it and the tips and tricks section linked from there to get a feel for some stuff. One general comment I have is the slight over use of sub sections. Having two subsections back-to-back with no text in between is unnecessary. Also, the first paragraph shouldn't have a section devoted to it, it should just sit at the top of the article. Generally, if you've hit ==== with subsections, you might have gone too far.  ;) Otherwise, the content was fine for a spell still in development. Anshou 12:20, 11 January 2006 (CST)

Alright, somewhat suprised to see all the suggestions were fixed already, so thanks for that. I went back in and rephrased just a few things, and added a lot of links. I think I am getting the hang of it to an extent. I think I see what you mean about the subsections. I had been thinking more of an format where the lowest subsections contained all of the information, and that the higher up subsections were just for organization. I will refrain from that in the future, for sure. Being that this is the 740 Talk page, I probably shouldn't be mentioning too many of these personal issues, so is there a more general area for discussion of these sorts of things? Finally, what is the CST stand for at the end of your edits? Being that it is after a time, I can only assume Central Standard Time, but who knows. I don't want to throw that in there without knowing what it is. IRVINETOMOE 12:01, 12 January 2006

Thanks for taking the time to add your comment, Oliver. Irvine, indent each comment in the discussion once more than the last by using the appropriate number of colons (:) then a space before the text. CST does indeed stand for "Central Standard Time," however you should not be putting it there yourself. In order to SIGN your comment (your linked username and a timestamp will appear automatically), simple add four tildas (like this ~~~~) at the end of your comment. You're picking it up quick, I can already see. Glad to have you aboard! ULTHRIPE 00:19, 12 January 2006 (CST)

You can feel free to have discussions on whatever you want on any talk page. Unless things get out of hand and disrupt real communication, talk pages don't really need to be reined in at all. You can also leave messages for people by going to their user page and then clicking the discussion link at the top. When someone leaves you a message, you get a message the next time you log in (I've left you an example). If you have specific questions you feel like asking, leaving me (or Oliver/Anshou, ULTHRIPE, etc) a message is perfectly welcome. Ildran 00:51, 12 January 2006 (CST)

Alright then, thanks for the help again from you both, I'm starting to figure this stuff out now I think. Definitely know how to make someone feel welcome =).Looking at the article again, is there anything specific I could work on to try and make it better? IRVINETOMOE 01:18, 12 January 2006 (CST)

I think that was covered. The only thing that would make it 'better' at this point is to trim it as much as possible. You generally want your pages to have only facts, have them phrased as statements not prepositions or conditional statements, and have them organized in such a way that someone going to the page to reference it can easily find or skim to the exact information they need. ULTHRIPE 01:36, 12 January 2006 (CST)

Alright then, updating the information with a little tidbit in the "Interrealm Success" section. Thats all for now. There seems to be some stuff going on in Illistim with the spell, but I think it would be better not to bother with that right now. IRVINETOMOE 09:25, 28 January 2006 (PST)