Gswiki:Village pump/Archive 009

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Main Page

What do you all think of the changes to the Main Page? Comments? Suggestions? - Oliver (User | Talk) 07:02, 9 February 2006 (PST)

I like the new section on the main page, but it looks like there is a part blank, at least when I view it. I see two columns, the first with "The GS Universe" and "Featured Article," but on the second column the top frame is just a blank grey box, and below it I have a blue box with the "Growing Pains" section. I'm using Firefox if that matters, but I checked in IE and it does the same. Kyre 17:11, 9 February 2006 (PST)

Haven't thought of anything to include there yet.  :) - Oliver (User | Talk) 17:18, 9 February 2006 (PST)

That would explain it then! Don't you love that period of time when you first get involved in something and you just go blundering along questioning even the most obvious things? What I think would go great there would be some type of graphic, maybe a map? But I'm not sure how this wiki stuff handles images. Kyre 17:31, 9 February 2006 (PST)

Category Questions

A couple questions about categories. Is it possible to link to a category page? For instance, if I want to link to the "Spells" category page, is there a way to do that? Second, is it possible to have an article also be a category? For instance, the Elven cultures category would seem to fit better under the Elf section of the Race category rather than it's own top level category, but I'm not sure if that's possible. Just as a personal note, this is my first time being involved with anything like this, so please let me know if you see anything wrong with any of my edits, or have any suggestions. Thanks! - Kyre 19:46, 8 February 2006 (PST)

First off, your edits are looking very nice so far. Keep up the good work!

As far as the categories thing, yes, you can link to a category by doing [[:Category:Spells]] (note the colon in front), which will show up as Category:Spells. For the second question, no, you can't do that, but you could make Elven cultures a subcategory of the Races category, which would make sense. You would do that by putting the category description article for Elven cultures in the Races category in the same way as putting a normal article into a category. - Ildran 20:05, 8 February 2006 (PST)

I'm not sure its entirely appropriate to link to an article's own category (ie CAST (verb)) within the body of the article. Its quite superflous since the category link appears at the bottom of the page anyways. In that particular case, I believe verb should link to a definition of what a verb is. Furthermore, it may also be overkill to link to Category:Spells, and should probably link to a casual definition of what a spell is. At very least, a blurb about what a spell is should appear at the top of category pages, if we are to link in that manner. Ulthripe 17:52, 9 February 2006 (PST)

Cleaning

Will this page ever be cleaned out? Some of the information here doesn't really need to remain. It could be just kept in the history. Just a thought! Belathus 12:59, 7 February 2006 (PST)

We'll probably archive it every so often when the page become unweildly to navigate. - Oliver (User | Talk) 18:53, 7 February 2006 (PST)

I cleaned up a bit. From now on, if you haven't already, when adding new sections to this page, do so starting at the TOP of the page, just below the little intro blurb. It'll make cleaning the page out easier in the future.- Oliver (User | Talk) 07:02, 9 February 2006 (PST)

Standards of Titles

So, I'm making a list of Rogue Guild skills for the linked topic, and, I know that topics exist for each skill, albeit, all of them are stubby except the one or two. Then, I realize, the titles don't match at all. Some are capitolized, some are plural, some are singular, etc. Now, when I made the page for stun maneuvers, I believed that it would not be a proper noun. After our discussion about skills such as Polearm Weapons, I realize that this should, indeed, be a proper noun. So, I suppose that now we're going to have to go through and turn all the combat maneuvers into proper nouns. Fun! Given this, I assume that Stun Maneuvers should also be plural. It's irritating that I have to go back and fix my work, but such is the lesson learned. Now, I suppose the question remains that, when dealing with proper nouns, which pages should be redirected, and which should be deleted? I'll leave the answer to that to our beloved admins, since I can't go through and delete pages. Belathus 12:59, 7 February 2006 (PST)

Same-Page Anchoring

So, I'm wondering if we can (or even should) link to a particular heading within a page. On the 725 page, I'd like to elaborate on the specifics of each ability, but thought that making a page for each ability was a bit overboard (GUARD (minor summoning), EAT (minor summoning), etc.). So, I'm thinking I could just go into detail about each ability on the main spell page, and have the ability's name in the table link to that header. Any advice is welcome. Ulthripe 18:11, 6 February 2006 (PST)

You can use subsections for this. Check out the table of contents at the top of this page and see how it auto-generates. You should be able to manually link in the same manner, like this: Krakiipedia:Village pump#Same-Page Anchoring. - Oliver (User | Talk) 07:52, 7 February 2006 (PST)

Thanks! Everyone feel free to take a peek at the new & improved 725 page. Ulthripe 17:10, 9 February 2006 (PST)

In-Universe versus Real-World Writing

I was recently browsing through the Wookiepedia (which is all about Star Wars, if you didn't get it) and they have a distinction between in-universe articles and real-world articles. Specifically, they divide the writing styles of the articles based on their subject matters. People, places and events are written from an in-universe perspective, essentially as if written from the perspective of someone who exists in that universe. Other articles, such as articles specifically about the two movie trilogies, the various novels and comic books, games, etc., are written with a real-world perspective. All the things that only exist in the real-world. It makes sense.

So, the meat of it. Do you think we should institute this sort of writing standard for Krakiipedia? I could see it benefit heavily in some areas from strictly in-universe writing.

Oliver 07:33, 3 February 2006 (PST)

That link ruined my life! I havent eaten, slept, or left my computer for 3 days! Ok more like 12 hours but still. Whats my favorite page you ask? The World Devastator of course! Nothing quite like the power to suck up a planet and spit out an army. Even though its just a ripoff Star Forge. One could argue that the Sun Crusher is a far more powerful weapon... Ulthripe drones on in a geeky voice Ulthripe 01:59, 6 February 2006 (PST)

Yeah, I spent an inordinate amount of time reading through that Wiki too. I would just pick an article and keep opening new tabs from interlinked articles that looked interesting as I read. I know way more than I need to about hyperspace drives now. - Oliver (User | Talk) 06:04, 6 February 2006 (PST)

I think that'd be pretty cool. The stories being added already do that to some extent, and I think there'd be plenty of people willing to write IC about events they'd taken part in. People, places and events make the most sense, too, since those aren't likely to have a mechanical, numbers-esque component. Of course, I guess monsters wouldn't be considered "people" per se, so maybe a distinction between GM controlled/ story-unique people versus the NPC-monster variety. Doom Duck 00:37, 5 February 2006 (PST)

Basically any article that isn't about a system would likely be a candidate for being written from an in-universe perspective. Basically, it'd just be considered on an article-to-article basis. There wouldn't really be any hard rules about what should or shouldn't be written in universe. - Oliver (User | Talk) 06:04, 6 February 2006 (PST)

I've started writing some articles using In-Universe perspective. Check out Illistim and Elf and Ashrim for very brief examples. I kind of like it, personally, but we'll see how it goes. I figure if we start doing this, then we'll just branch off information that is not in-universe or just list it below a certain point in the article under a subsection named something like "Under the surface" or something. - Oliver (User | Talk) 07:02, 9 February 2006 (PST)

What are your thoughts on formatting for years? I've been trying to find something that I would feel comfortable editing and I have decided that years wouldn't be a bad thing. I'm looking at the format on wikipedia that they use for their years. An example I pulled was 1979. I was going to start on 3961 but of course there isn't a template for yearboxes right now. ::Lavastene 11:24, 10 February 2006 (PST)::