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Anshou, this page now has zero information on it. Where did you want the information on which demons come from the shien'tyr valence if not on the shien'tyr page?

The original entry, now located at Shien'tyr (rune), contained copyrighted material from which was copied verbatim into the article. This is against our policy. See Help:Style#Copyrights. Anshou 12:20, 10 January 2006 (CST)

That's fine moving that one section to a link. But do you really think anyone is going to type in "Shien'tyr (rune)" into the search function? It's not linked to this page at all even. Wouldn't it make more sense to put that information on the shien'tyr page? That's what people will be searching for.

Using the search function turns up hits to the Shien'tyr (rune) page just fine. That page contains information about the rune, this page about the valence. This page should contain information such as that found in the Enchiridion Valentia, such as the history of the valence and what types of demons may be summoned from here. It just shouldn't be copied verbatim from the Play.Net website. In general, one article shouldn't be crammed with as much information as possible. It should be divided up into appropriate areas and linked accordingly. For instance, while it would make sense to mention what types of demons are summoned from Shien'tyr on this page, it wouldn't to go into gross detail about each demon. A seperate article should be created for each demon type and linked to. Also, you should sign talk pages using ~~~~ and indent replies using colons so other can follow the conversation better.  :) Anshou 12:32, 10 January 2006 (CST)

Alright, so far, it looks like rather basic information is on here, and I'd like to update it with a bit of more indepth information, should I just go ahead? Also, the same would apply to Grik and Lorae, which as of yet, have nothing at all. IRVINETOMOE 08:43, 1 February 2006 (PST)

Absolutely, have at it. The very thing that makes this kind of site cool is that if you see a page that you think could be improved, you're can improve it right then and there. - Ildran 09:23, 1 February 2006 (PST)
Ok, I just filled in some basic information, in a format where the first paragraph describes the nature of the valence, the second paragraph lists relevant information about the demons, including listing all that are known to come from there, and the third paragraph would list any sort of significant social structure on the valence, which clearly does not apply to Shien'tyr. IRVINETOMOE 12:17, 1 February 2006 (PST)
Sounds good. Don't worry about someone getting annoyed or anything, be bold! - Ildran 13:33, 1 February 2006 (PST)