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These gems were removed from the Hinterwilds page, but if they can be found in the Hinterwilds it may be beneficial to still have them on the page under a different table stating that they are also found in Icemule: a blue lace agate, a piece of polished ivory, a green alexandrite stone. MOD-GSMOTTE (talk) 19:22, 6 June 2022 (CDT)


I have confirmed with staff that there is presently no official abbreviation for Hinterwilds. The current edit stating "Hinterwilds (abbreviated as "HW" or "HiWi")" will remain in place. All contributors need to refrain from further edit wars on the topic of the abbreviation for Hinterwilds until a consensus is reached on its abbreviation. Further discussion can be done here on this talk page or on Discord. HOST-GSKEBECHET (talk) 11:29, 7 December 2023 (CST)

Did some basic research of the usage of HW before the release of Hinterwilds. There is zero references on the wiki of HW pertaining to halfling warriors. The references in place currently all but one are in reference to Hinterwilds. Searching Discord for usage of HW prior to the release of Hinterwilds shows 12 uses, majority short form of homework and one reference by Nidal in reference to Fropple for what I assume would be for a halfling warrior. After the release of Hinterwilds, the usage of HW is harder to track cause there were to many mentions to statistically validate. But, looking at the discord history of Auchand who created the Hinterwilds and his usage of HW vs HiWi shows zero references of HiWi and 23 uses of HW in regards to referencing Hinterwilds. In one of the edits wanting to have HiWi listed as the official abbreviation it was mentioned that there is established lore of HW being used for halfling warriors. I have searched and have had a hard time finding any reference to a lore document using the abbreviation. HORIBU1 (talk) 13:56, 7 December 2023 (CST)
Why is there a note about the abbreviation at all? Just create some redirect pages and delete the abbreviation parenthetical statements entirely. RAGZ (talk) 11:23, 14 December 2023 (CST)
If you just set up a simple redirect page, then you have people fighting over what it redirects to. You'd have to have a landing page for the abbreviation with links to each of the possible meanings. So a HW page that then lists a link for hinterwilds, halfling warriors, hafling wizards, human warriors, human wizards, half-elf warriors, half-elf wizards, half-krolvin warriors, half-krovlin wizards, etc... Otherwise you'd have edit wars happening over what the HW abbreviation page would link to, hence the mess this is currently in. But then you also have to ask how many abbreviation landing pages does the Wiki really want to allow and support. All questions that I don't know the answer too. HORIBU1 (talk) 11:32, 14 December 2023 (CST)
That seems to me like it may be a concern in search of a problem since those pages don’t exist. RAGZ (talk) 13:07, 14 December 2023 (CST)

HiWi Abbreviation

Nobody except a handful of Discord folks uses the abbreviation of "HiWi" for the Hinterwilds. The abbreviation for this area, since the earliest talk of this in Discord through today, has always been "HW." The idea that "HW" could be designated as an abbreviation for "Halfling Warriors" is fairly ridiculous. Logically speaking, there are three possible races that start with "H": Half-Elves, Half-Krolvin, and Halflings. But, if you want to quibble that the hyphen would lend itself to an abbreviation of "HE" or "HK," fine. You're still stuck with disambiguation between what the "W" represents: is it Wizard or Warrior?

tl;dr: The opening paragraph should be updated to read "Hinterwilds (HW) is a challenging and large hunting ground..." and a redirect should be created for /HW to /Category:Hinterwilds_creatures HEBREW2YOU (talk) 13:23, 7 December 2023 (CST)

Above is actually missing the fact that there are four possible races that start with "H". Missing is Humans. HORIBU1 (talk) 13:58, 7 December 2023 (CST)