Latest revision as of 14:44, 3 January 2015

Welcome to the village pump, where anyone can say anything about whatever, and people can respond! Yeehaw! Remember to sign your comments by putting 4 tildes (~~~~) at the end.

Reorganization

The site wasn't very well organized in terms of consistency in categories. I'm making an effort to get everything into cohesive layers of categories. Open up the River's Rest category and there are no longer almost 200 pages there, there are some pages that don't fit in sub categories that will remain in the RR category, but many of the pages have been only categorized under the subcategory, such as the Casler Huntington Storyline, or hunting areas, or Museum, it's still in process, I jump around.

I'm not exactly opposed to all-encompassing categories, but that didn't really exist in the first place, so I figure I'd put things in a sensible location before expanding if people think there is a need. There were also over 500 pages uncategorized and that has been cut to 30, mainly pages that are incomplete/abandoned efforts (not the tones, that I have a lot of additional recent info to add).

I have also reviewed the categories and tried to consolidate very similar ones or ones with one page. I have not touched categories having to do with creatures unless something seemed off (see troll wraith). I'm also paying special attention to the "Gemstone" group of categories that appear in the left navigation panel. I think these should be especially clean in terms of filtering information into the right subcategories as they are linked from every single page. For example, do we really need every wand listed in the Magic category? I think keeping them off the main Magic category page and in the Common Magical Items subcategory is more comprehensive.

For the saved posts, does every saved post really need its own page? Isn't it easier in a lot of cases to consolidate them under 1 page (e.g. Major Spiritual (saved posts)). This obviously doesn't fit for every post, but I like to see the progression of things rather than go digging for the next change. I think grouping and/or linking between the saved posts for one topic is extremely helpful. VANKRASN39 17:47, 23 May 2014 (EDT)

How to Color Text

Hey, its been a long time since I've done serious work on Krakiipedia, and I forgot how to color text. I have some text I want to make red, and I thought it would be way too ghetto to just link them to a non-existant page, though if it comes to that, I will totally do that. Any tips? IRVINETOMOE 12:10, 6 September 2012 (EDT)

<span style="color:red"> red </span> will make the text in between the span and /span red. I generally google any wiki formatting questions I have. Check these pages out for info and color numbering: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_color_formatting_help and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Using_colours. I think all of our wiki geeks who warred over wiki styles are gone, so unless you make an entire page hot pink font on a bright yellow background, use colors as you see fit. Becca 15:13, 8 September 2012 (EDT)

Unfortunately, I'm working a table that has lots of different ways of showing special info already, including bolded text, underlined text, and the little cross symbol as well. I needed one more, and because it was a warning, so to speak, red seemed to make the most sense to me. Thanks for the info! If you have any further suggestions, you can see the table on the Minor Summoning (725) page. IRVINETOMOE 15:33, 8 September 2012 (EDT)

We Need SysOps

So, as far as I can tell, we do not have any active SysOp accounts. The main thing that differs for a SysOp is the ability to move/delete pages and edit the main page. My policy has been to promote the most active contributors to this level when necessary, but I haven't really kept up on who has been doing what on KP in any significant capacity for a while, which is unfortunate. What this means is that I do not have a good idea of who contributes what or who might be interested in or appropriate for this responsibility.

So, how about this, you guys nominate yourselves and give a brief reason why. I'll look into the edit history of those nominated and as long as I don't see anything questionable, we should have a few more SysOps around. I'll check back in a week or so, since the new year is upon us.

All of this said, I want to take a moment to thank everyone who contributes to Krakiipedia. Without those contributions this place would be an empty shell with a clever name. You guys are the best.

(Man, I just reviewed this edit and scrolled down to see a similar message from 2008. That message is almost four years old. Wow. Still, I'm being sincere here, folks. Thank you very much for the work you all do.)

Oliver ^Talk 13:07, 30 December 2011 (EST)

I'd be interested in being a SysOp. For one, it'd be nice to be able to clean-up (aka delete) after myself when I'm, f.ex., testing something. KAGE 22:53, 4 January 2012 (EST)

Kage would be a fine sysop, he's one of the most active editors around. --Drew 14:38, 9 January 2012 (EST)

Thank you, Drew. - KAGE 15:46, 16 January 2012 (EST)

Hey, I'll second that emotion. I know Kage would do an outstanding job. - Mark 22:33, 16 January 2012 (EST)

Thank you, Mark - KAGE 06:13, 17 January 2012 (EST)

This is a bit old, but I'd be a SysOp if you are still looking for some. DAID 02:17, 24 November 2012 (EST)

New Users

Welcome to the few new users, yay! Apologies for taking forever to activate your accounts. Oliver ^Talk 13:07, 30 December 2011 (EST)

Sure! Let the riff raff in, why don't'cha! I mean...ummm...hi! - KAGE 01:19, 31 December 2011 (EST)

User list by number of edits

Is there a way to sort the user list by number of edits? It'd be fun to see a list of them. Drew 15:51, 16 September 2011 (EDT)

KP Skin

Does anyone actually use the KP skin option? This is something I added sometime close to the beginning of KP's existence, but haven't really had time or inclination to expand on. I've always thought that getting a nice, custom theme designed for KP should be done, but my skills just aren't up to snuff.

Just curious. Oliver ^Talk 12:07, 30 March 2010 (EDT)

I've checked it out a couple of times, but...not really. On Wikipedia I do use this option, however: (User interface gadgets) Use a black background with green text on the Monobook skin. Love it. KAGE 12:52, 30 March 2010 (EDT)

Front page editing

The front page is looking a little stale, especially under the growing pains section. For instance the Ranger article is now pretty fully featured and I think it can safely be removed. In it's place might I suggest The Rift which is an article that could really benefit from expansion. (Also as an aside while I'm previewing this, it appears the 4 tilde signature is not working) 15:15, 2 September 2009 (EDT) (User:KANYDA )

Hmm, let's test... Seemed it just now worked for me, the tilde signature. Maybe one of the SysOps may know more about it than me, though. Adam ^talk 17:54, 2 September 2009 (EDT)

Maybe I'm just confused, on WP they use four tildes and two dashes and that puts the time and date and your user name. When I try it here four tildes puts just the time and date but no user name, I'll give it another shot.Drew 01:24, 3 September 2009 (EDT)

Seems to work now, hmm. I was on another computer and using NoScript, maybe that was the culprit. 01:25, 3 September 2009 (EDT)

I switched out The Rift page for the Ranger page, and put some links into the current featured article page...more lively? Becca 19:47, 3 September 2009 (EDT)

Very nice. One other request could we get a front page link to https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Category:Legendary_Items somewhere on the front page? It's my favorite section and I know that of several other people, and one I'd like to encourage growth in. Drew 03:09, 4 September 2009 (EDT)

Another good suggestion! I added the link to the Legendary Items category to the In-Universe category link, as well as the Storylines category link because I'd like to see that fleshed out myself. Becca 17:23, 4 September 2009 (EDT)

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 Welcome to the village pump, where anyone can say anything about whatever, and people can respond!  Yeehaw!  Remember to sign your comments by putting 4 tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) at the end.
-== Main Page ==
+== Reorganization ==
+The site wasn't very well organized in terms of consistency in categories. I'm making an effort to get everything into cohesive layers of categories.  Open up the [[:Category:River's Rest|River's Rest]] category and there are no longer almost 200 pages there, there are some pages that don't fit in sub categories that will remain in the RR category, but many of the pages have been only categorized under the subcategory, such as the Casler Huntington Storyline, or hunting areas, or Museum, it's still in process, I jump around.
-What do you all think of the changes to the [[Main Page]]? Comments? Suggestions? - Oliver ([[User:Anshou|User]] | [[User talk:Anshou|Talk]]) 07:02, 9 February 2006 (PST)
-: I like the new section on the main page, but it looks like there is a part blank, at least when I view it. I see two columns, the first with "The GS Universe" and "Featured Article," but on the second column the top frame is just a blank grey box, and below it I have a blue box with the "Growing Pains" section. I'm using Firefox if that matters, but I checked in IE and it does the same. [[User:KYRE104|Kyre]] 17:11, 9 February 2006 (PST)
+I'm not exactly opposed to all-encompassing categories, but that didn't really exist in the first place, so I figure I'd put things in a sensible location before expanding if people think there is a need. There were also over 500 pages uncategorized and that has been cut to 30, mainly pages that are incomplete/abandoned efforts (not the tones, that I have a lot of additional recent info to add).
-:: Haven't thought of anything to include there yet.  :)  - Oliver ([[User:Anshou|User]] | [[User talk:Anshou|Talk]]) 17:18, 9 February 2006 (PST)
+I have also reviewed the categories and tried to consolidate very similar ones or ones with one page. I have not touched categories having to do with creatures unless something seemed off (see [[troll wraith]]).  I'm also paying special attention to the "Gemstone" group of categories that appear in the left navigation panel. I think these should be especially clean in terms of filtering information into the right subcategories as they are linked from every single page. For example, do we really need every wand listed in the Magic category? I think keeping them off the main Magic category page and in the Common Magical Items subcategory is more comprehensive.
-::: That would explain it then! Don't you love that period of time when you first get involved in something and you just go blundering along questioning even the most obvious things? What I think would go great there would be some type of graphic, maybe a map? But I'm not sure how this wiki stuff handles images. [[User:KYRE104|Kyre]] 17:31, 9 February 2006 (PST)
+For the saved posts, does every saved post really need its own page? Isn't it easier in a lot of cases to consolidate them under 1 page (e.g. [[Major Spiritual (saved posts)]]). This obviously doesn't fit for every post, but I like to see the progression of things rather than go digging for the next change. I think grouping and/or linking between the saved posts for one topic is extremely helpful. [[User:VANKRASN39|VANKRASN39]] 17:47, 23 May 2014 (EDT)
-== Category Questions ==
-A couple questions about categories. Is it possible to link to a category page? For instance, if I want to link to the "Spells" category page, is there a way to do that? Second, is it possible to have an article also be a category? For instance, the Elven cultures category would seem to fit better under the Elf section of the Race category rather than it's own top level category, but I'm not sure if that's possible. Just as a personal note, this is my first time being involved with anything like this, so please let me know if you see anything wrong with any of my edits, or have any suggestions. Thanks! - Kyre 19:46, 8 February 2006 (PST)
+== How to Color Text ==
-: First off, your edits are looking very nice so far.  Keep up the good work!
+Hey, its been a long time since I've done serious work on Krakiipedia, and I forgot how to color text. I have some text I want to make red, and I thought it would be way too ghetto to just link them to a non-existant page, though if it comes to that, I will totally do that. Any tips? [[User:IRVINETOMOE|IRVINETOMOE]] 12:10, 6 September 2012 (EDT)
-: As far as the categories thing, yes, you can link to a category by doing <nowiki>[[:Category:Spells]]</nowiki> (note the colon in front), which will show up as [[:Category:Spells]].  For the second question, no, you can't do that, but you could make Elven cultures a subcategory of the Races category, which would make sense.  You would do that by putting the category description article for Elven cultures in the Races category in the same way as putting a normal article into a category. - [[User:Ildran|Ildran]] 20:05, 8 February 2006 (PST)
+: <nowiki><span style="color:red"> red </span></nowiki> will make the text in between the span and /span <span style="color:red">red</span>.  I generally google any wiki formatting questions I have.  Check these pages out for info and color numbering: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_color_formatting_help and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Using_colours.  I think all of our wiki geeks who warred over wiki styles are gone, so unless you make an entire page hot pink font on a bright yellow background, use colors as you see fit. [[User:MILQUETOAST|Becca]] 15:13, 8 September 2012 (EDT)
-:: I'm not sure its entirely appropriate to link to an article's own category (ie [[CAST (verb)]]) within the body of the article. Its quite superflous since the category link appears at the bottom of the page anyways. In that particular case, I believe [[verb]] should link to a definition of what a verb is. Furthermore, it may also be overkill to link to [[:Category:Spells]], and should probably link to a casual definition of what a spell is. At very least, a blurb about what a spell '''is''' should appear at the top of category pages, if we are to link in that manner. [[user:ULTHRIPE|Ulthripe]] 17:52, 9 February 2006 (PST)
+:: Unfortunately, I'm working a table that has lots of different ways of showing special info already, including bolded text, underlined text, and the little cross symbol as well. I needed one more, and because it was a warning, so to speak, red seemed to make the most sense to me. Thanks for the info! If you have any further suggestions, you can see the table on the [[Minor Summoning (725)]] page. [[User:IRVINETOMOE|IRVINETOMOE]] 15:33, 8 September 2012 (EDT)
-== Cleaning ==
+== We Need SysOps ==
-Will this page ever be cleaned out?  Some of the information here doesn't really need to remain.  It could be just kept in the history.  Just a thought!  [[User:BELATHUS|Belathus]] 12:59, 7 February 2006 (PST)
+So, as far as I can tell, we do not have any active SysOp accounts.  The main thing that differs for a SysOp is the ability to move/delete pages and edit the main page.  My policy has been to promote the most active contributors to this level when necessary, but I haven't really kept up on who has been doing what on KP in any significant capacity for a while, which is unfortunate.  What this means is that I do not have a good idea of who contributes what or who might be interested in or appropriate for this responsibility.
-: We'll probably archive it every so often when the page become unweildly to navigate. - Oliver ([[User:Anshou|User]] | [[User talk:Anshou|Talk]]) 18:53, 7 February 2006 (PST)
+So, how about this, you guys nominate yourselves and give a brief reason why.  I'll look into the edit history of those nominated and as long as I don't see anything questionable, we should have a few more SysOps around. I'll check back in a week or so, since the new year is upon us.
-I cleaned up a bit. From now on, if you haven't already, when adding new sections to this page, do so starting at the TOP of the page, just below the little intro blurb. It'll make cleaning the page out easier in the future.- Oliver ([[User:Anshou|User]] | [[User talk:Anshou|Talk]]) 07:02, 9 February 2006 (PST)
+All of this said, I want to take a moment to thank everyone who contributes to Krakiipedia.  Without those contributions this place would be an empty shell with a clever name.  You guys are the best.
-== Standards of Titles ==
-So, I'm making a list of [[Rogue Guild]] skills for the linked topic, and, I know that topics exist for each skill, albeit, all of them are stubby except the one or two.  Then, I realize, the titles don't match at all.  Some are capitolized, some are plural, some are singular, etc.  Now, when I made the page for [[stun maneuver]]s, I believed that it would not be a proper noun.  After our discussion about skills such as [[Polearm Weapons]], I realize that this should, indeed, be a proper noun.  So, I suppose that now we're going to have to go through and turn all the combat maneuvers into proper nouns.  Fun!  Given this, I assume that Stun Maneuvers should also be plural.  It's irritating that I have to go back and fix my work, but such is the lesson learned.  Now, I suppose the question remains that, when dealing with proper nouns, which pages should be redirected, and which should be deleted?  I'll leave the answer to that to our beloved admins, since I can't go through and delete pages.  [[User:BELATHUS|Belathus]] 12:59, 7 February 2006 (PST)
+(Man, I just reviewed this edit and scrolled down to see a similar message from 2008.  That message is almost four years old.  Wow.  Still, I'm being sincere here, folks.  Thank you very much for the work you all do.)
-== Same-Page Anchoring ==
-So, I'm wondering if we can (or even should) link to a particular heading within a page. On the [[725]] page, I'd like to elaborate on the specifics of each ability, but thought that making a page for each ability was a bit overboard ([[GUARD (minor summoning)]], [[EAT (minor summoning)]], etc.). So, I'm thinking I could just go into detail about each ability on the main spell page, and have the  ability's name in the table link to that header. Any advice is welcome. [[user:ULTHRIPE|Ulthripe]] 18:11, 6 February 2006 (PST)
+[[User:Anshou|Oliver]] <sup>[[User talk:Anshou|Talk]]</sup> 13:07, 30 December 2011 (EST)
-: You can use subsections for this.  Check out the table of contents at the top of this page and see how it auto-generates.  You should be able to manually link in the same manner, like this: [[Krakiipedia:Village pump#Same-Page Anchoring]]. - Oliver ([[User:Anshou|User]] | [[User talk:Anshou|Talk]]) 07:52, 7 February 2006 (PST)
+:I'd be interested in being a SysOp.  For one, it'd be nice to be able to clean-up (aka delete) after myself when I'm, f.ex., testing something.  [[User:KAGE|KAGE]] 22:53, 4 January 2012 (EST)
+::Kage would be a fine sysop, he's one of the most active editors around. --[[User:KANYDA|Drew]] 14:38, 9 January 2012 (EST)
+:::Thank you, Drew. - [[User:KAGE|KAGE]] 15:46, 16 January 2012 (EST)
+::Hey, I'll second that emotion. I know Kage would do an outstanding job. - [[User:SPYRIDONM1|Mark]] 22:33, 16 January 2012 (EST)
+:::Thank you, Mark - [[User:KAGE|KAGE]] 06:13, 17 January 2012 (EST)
+:This is a bit old, but I'd be a SysOp if you are still looking for some.  [[User:DAID|DAID]] 02:17, 24 November 2012 (EST)
+== New Users ==
-:: Thanks! Everyone feel free to take a peek at the new & improved [[725]] page. [[user:ULTHRIPE|Ulthripe]] 17:10, 9 February 2006 (PST)
+Welcome to the few new users, yay!  Apologies for taking forever to activate your accounts. [[User:Anshou|Oliver]] <sup>[[User talk:Anshou|Talk]]</sup> 13:07, 30 December 2011 (EST)
-== In-Universe versus Real-World Writing ==
+:Sure!  Let the riff raff in, why don't'cha!  I mean...ummm...hi!  - [[User:KAGE|KAGE]] 01:19, 31 December 2011 (EST)
-I was recently browsing through the [http://starwars.wikicities.com/wiki/Main_Page Wookiepedia] (which is all about Star Wars, if you didn't get it) and they have a distinction between in-universe articles and real-world articles.  Specifically, they divide the writing styles of the articles based on their subject matters.  People, places and events are written from an in-universe perspective, essentially as if written from the perspective of someone who exists in that universe.  Other articles, such as articles specifically about the two movie trilogies, the various novels and comic books, games, etc., are written with a real-world perspective.  All the things that only exist in the real-world.  It makes sense.
+== User list by number of edits ==
-So, the meat of it.  Do you think we should institute this sort of writing standard for Krakiipedia?  I could see it benefit heavily in some areas from strictly in-universe writing.
+Is there a way to sort the user list by number of edits? It'd be fun to see a list of them. [[User:KANYDA|Drew]] 15:51, 16 September 2011 (EDT)
+== KP Skin ==
-[[User:Anshou|Oliver]] 07:33, 3 February 2006 (PST)
+Does anyone actually use the KP skin option?  This is something I added sometime close to the beginning of KP's existence, but haven't really had time or inclination to expand on.  I've always thought that getting a nice, custom theme designed for KP should be done, but my skills just aren't up to snuff.
-: That link ruined my life! I havent eaten, slept, or left my computer for 3 days! Ok more like 12 hours but still. Whats my favorite page you ask? The [http://starwars.wikicities.com/wiki/World_Devastator World Devastator] of course! Nothing quite like the power to suck up a planet and spit out an army. Even though its just a ripoff [http://starwars.wikicities.com/wiki/Star_Forge Star Forge]. One could argue that the [http://starwars.wikicities.com/wiki/Sun_Crusher Sun Crusher] is a far more powerful weapon... ''Ulthripe drones on in a geeky voice'' [[User:ULTHRIPE|Ulthripe]] 01:59, 6 February 2006 (PST)
+Just curious.  [[User:Anshou|Oliver]] <sup>[[User talk:Anshou|Talk]]</sup> 12:07, 30 March 2010 (EDT)
-:: Yeah, I spent an inordinate amount of time reading through that Wiki too.  I would just pick an article and keep opening new tabs from interlinked articles that looked interesting as I read.  I know way more than I need to about hyperspace drives now. - Oliver ([[User:Anshou|User]] | [[User talk:Anshou|Talk]]) 06:04, 6 February 2006 (PST)
+:I've checked it out a couple of times, but...not really.  On Wikipedia I do use this option, however:  (User interface gadgets) Use a black background with green text on the Monobook skin.  Love it. [[User:KAGE|KAGE]] 12:52, 30 March 2010 (EDT)
-I think that'd be pretty cool.  The stories being added already do that to some extent, and I think there'd be plenty of people willing to write IC about events they'd taken part in.  People, places and events make the most sense, too, since those aren't likely to have a mechanical, numbers-esque component.  Of course, I guess monsters wouldn't be considered "people" per se, so maybe a distinction between GM controlled/ story-unique people versus the NPC-monster variety.  [[User:DOOMDUCK|Doom Duck]] 00:37, 5 February 2006 (PST)
+== Front page editing ==
-: Basically any article that isn't about a system would likely be a candidate for being written from an in-universe perspective.  Basically, it'd just be considered on an article-to-article basis.  There wouldn't really be any hard rules about what should or shouldn't be written in universe. - Oliver ([[User:Anshou|User]] | [[User talk:Anshou|Talk]]) 06:04, 6 February 2006 (PST)
+The front page is looking a little stale, especially under the growing pains section. For instance the Ranger article is now pretty fully featured and I think it can safely be removed. In it's place might I suggest [[The Rift]] which is an article that could really benefit from expansion. (Also as an aside while I'm previewing this, it appears the 4 tilde signature is not working) 15:15, 2 September 2009 (EDT) ([[User:KANYDA]] )
+: Hmm, let's test... Seemed it just now worked for me, the tilde signature.  Maybe one of the SysOps may know more about it than me, though. [[User:DRIZZT-12|Adam]] <sup>[[User talk:DRIZZT-12|talk]]</sup> 17:54, 2 September 2009 (EDT)
-I've started writing some articles using In-Universe perspective.  Check out [[Illistim]] and [[Elf]] and [[Ashrim]] for very brief examples.  I kind of like it, personally, but we'll see how it goes.  I figure if we start doing this, then we'll just branch off information that is not in-universe or just list it below a certain point in the article under a subsection named something like "Under the surface" or something. - Oliver ([[User:Anshou|User]] | [[User talk:Anshou|Talk]]) 07:02, 9 February 2006 (PST)
+::Maybe I'm just confused, on WP they use four tildes and two dashes and that puts the time and date and your user name. When I try it here four tildes puts just the time and date but no user name, I'll give it another shot.[[User:KANYDA|Drew]] 01:24, 3 September 2009 (EDT)
-What are your thoughts on formatting for years? I've been trying to find something that I would feel comfortable editing and I have decided that years wouldn't be a bad thing. I'm looking at the format on wikipedia that they use for their years. An example I pulled was [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1979 1979]. I was going to start on [[3961]] but of course there isn't a template for yearboxes right now. ::[[User:LAVASTENE|Lavastene]] 11:24, 10 February 2006 (PST)::
+:::Seems to work now, hmm. I was on another computer and using NoScript, maybe that was the culprit. 01:25, 3 September 2009 (EDT)
+:I switched out [[The Rift]] page for the [[Ranger]] page, and put some links into the current featured article page...more lively? [[User:MILQUETOAST|Becca]] 19:47, 3 September 2009 (EDT)
+::Very nice. One other request could we get a front page link to https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Category:Legendary_Items somewhere on the front page? It's my favorite section and I know that of several other people, and one I'd like to encourage growth in.  [[User:KANYDA|Drew]] 03:09, 4 September 2009 (EDT)
+:::Another good suggestion! I added the link to the [[:Category:Legendary Items|Legendary Items]] category to the In-Universe category link, as well as the [[:Category:Storylines|Storylines]] category link because I'd like to see that fleshed out myself. [[User:MILQUETOAST|Becca]] 17:23, 4 September 2009 (EDT)
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