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'''No, item cannot be deepened:
'''No, item cannot be deepened:
<pre{{log2}}>You can tell that the vestment is as light as it can get and that '''its pockets could not possibly get any deeper'''.</pre></blockquote>
<pre{{log2}}>You can tell that the vestment is as light as it can get and that '''its pockets could not possibly get any deeper'''.

''*Note: Occasionally an item which yields this message can still be deepened using an [[Deepening#Automated Deepening Certificates|Automated Deepening Certificate]].''</pre></blockquote>


[[GameMaster]]s are limited to how much they can deepen a container at a time (10% of current capacity), and there are standards set for how much a container can hold based on its weight, description (e.g., sheath, harness, backpack, apron), and the slot in the character's [[inventory]] it occupies (e.g., back, cloak, shoulder/back, belt).
[[GameMaster]]s are limited to how much they can deepen a container at a time (10% of current capacity), and there are standards set for how much a container can hold based on its weight, description (e.g., sheath, harness, backpack, apron), and the slot in the character's [[inventory]] it occupies (e.g., back, cloak, shoulder/back, belt).
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==Automated Deepening Certificates==
==Automated Deepening Certificates==
At the June 2017 run of [[Return to Delirium Manor]], certificates were introduced to automate the deepening of a container with a variety of how much the certificate would deepen and maximum of what it would deepen to. {{boldmono|[[REDEEM]] NOTE }} with the ticket with the container in hand to use.
At the June 2017 run of [[Return to Delirium Manor]], certificates were introduced to automate the deepening of a container with a variety of how much the certificate would deepen and maximum of what it would deepen to. {{boldmono|[[REDEEM]] NOTE }} with the ticket with the container in hand to use.

These certificates or notes cannot be used to take an item above its maximum capacity. However, sometimes an item whose ANALYZE says the item's pockets "could not possibly get any deeper" can still be deepened with a deepening certificate or note.


If a container is set to hold 1 item, a deepening certificate will not change that capacity; it will always hold only 1 item. If a container is non-functional, it's possible that using a certificate will force the item to become [[functional item|functional]].
If a container is set to hold 1 item, a deepening certificate will not change that capacity; it will always hold only 1 item. If a container is non-functional, it's possible that using a certificate will force the item to become [[functional item|functional]].

{{#section:Lightening|denied}}
Most similar deepening notes can be bundled and can form a stack of up to 100 notes. PULL to remove a single-use note from the stack.

===Examples===
===Examples===
<pre{{log2}}>
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NOTE: If your item's capacity limit is lower than the service amount, the item is ineligible.
NOTE: If your item's capacity limit is lower than the service amount, the item is ineligible.


Tiny and extremely tiny containers are also ineligible for use with this note.</pre>
Tiny and extremely tiny containers are also ineligible for use with this note.
</pre>

<pre{{log2}}>
'''a stack of light pink notes'''
>read my note
In the Common language, it reads:
This notes can be REDEEMed to increase an appropriate item's capacity by 10 pounds up to a maximum of:

Back and shoulder containers: 160 pounds
Slung on shoulder containers: 70 pounds
Torso, attached to belt, and front containers: 50 pounds

NOTE: If your item's capacity limit is lower than the service amount, the item is ineligible.

Tiny and extremely tiny containers are also ineligible for use with this notes.

This notes has 32 uses. PULL the notes to remove a single-use note from the bundle
</pre>


:{| {{prettytable}}
:{| {{prettytable}}
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! Deepen amount
! Deepen amount
! Capacity Limit by container type
! Capacity Limit by container type
|-
| a vivid gold note (jackpot)
| 100 lbs
| Back and shoulder containers: 200 pounds<br>Slung on shoulder containers: 100 pounds<br>Torso, attached to belt, and front containers: 60 pounds
|-
| a bright gold note (jackpot)
| 100 lbs
| Back and shoulder containers: 180 pounds<br>Slung on shoulder containers: 80 pounds<br>Torso, attached to belt, and front containers: 60 pounds
|-
| a light gold note (jackpot)
| 100 lbs
| Back and shoulder containers: 160 pounds<br>Slung on shoulder containers: 70 pounds<br>Torso, attached to belt, and front containers: 50 pounds
|-
| a bright crimson note (jackpot)
| 50 lbs
| Back and shoulder containers: 180 pounds<br>Slung on shoulder containers: 80 pounds<br>Torso, attached to belt, and front containers: 60 pounds
|-
| a faded crimson note (jackpot)
| 50 lbs
| Back and shoulder containers: 140 pounds<br>Slung on shoulder containers: 60 pounds<br>Torso, attached to belt, and front containers: 40 pounds
|-
|-
| a vivid viridian note
| a vivid viridian note
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| a hazy indigo note
| a hazy indigo note
| 3 lbs
| 3 lbs
| Back and shoulder containers: 200 pounds<br>Slung on shoulder containers: 100 pounds<br>Torso, attached to belt, and front containers: 60 pounds
|-
| a faded indigo note
| 2 lbs
| Back and shoulder containers: 200 pounds<br>Slung on shoulder containers: 100 pounds<br>Torso, attached to belt, and front containers: 60 pounds
| Back and shoulder containers: 200 pounds<br>Slung on shoulder containers: 100 pounds<br>Torso, attached to belt, and front containers: 60 pounds
|}<section end=examples />
|}<section end=examples />

{{#section:Lightening|denied}}


==See Also==
==See Also==
*[[Lightening]]
*[[Epic deepening]]
*[[Epic deepening]]
*[[GALD]]
*[[GALD]]

Latest revision as of 15:04, 25 April 2020

Deepening is a commonly offered merchant service in which a player can have the capacity of his/her containers increased. Players may use the INSPECT verb to see how much their containers hold, and the ANALYZE verb to see if the container is already at maximum capacity, or may be worked on by a merchant.

Yes, item can be deepened:

You might be able to have a talented merchant lighten the felt pouch for you or have its pockets deepened.

No, item cannot be deepened:

You can tell that the vestment is as light as it can get and that its pockets could not possibly get any deeper.

*Note: Occasionally an item which yields this message can still be deepened using an Automated Deepening Certificate.

GameMasters are limited to how much they can deepen a container at a time (10% of current capacity), and there are standards set for how much a container can hold based on its weight, description (e.g., sheath, harness, backpack, apron), and the slot in the character's inventory it occupies (e.g., back, cloak, shoulder/back, belt).

Prior to February 2016, containers had to be fully deepened before being lightened in order to maximize the capacity of the container, but that is only the case now if one lightens an item below the minimum weight for the item's set maximum capacity for its worn location. For example, a cloak's minimum weight is 6 lbs for the maximum allowed standard of 140 lbs. If the item is taken to 5 lbs, then the maximum capacity will be lower and, thus, the order matters now only once the minimum weight for maximum capacity is reached. Epic deepening does not have any minimum weight restrictions, and during that service maximum capacity may be taken above the standard maximums.

CLARIFICATION NOTE: Lightening notes, and general lightening merchants, will not lighten a container below the minimum weight for its current capacity. Therefore, if the goal is to achieve the lightest and deepest container then you should fully lighten it before deepening it as deepening notes will exceed the small maximum.

Standard Lightening and Deepening Levels
Worn Location Minimum
Weight (lbs)
Maximum Capacity (lbs)
Cloak & back-worn 6 140
Cloak & back-worn 5 120
Cloak & back-worn 4 90
Shoulder-slung 3 60
All others 2 varies based on location
All others <1 ≤5
Standard Container Weight Chart
Description Capacity (lbs.) Off-The-Shelf Items
Min Max
Very Small <2 4
Small 5 7 small sack/herb pouch (5 lbs) WL GS
Fairly Small 8 11 small chest (10 lbs) WL GS
Somewhat Small 12 15 scabbard/sheath (15 lbs) WL GS
Slightly Small 16 19
Medium 20 39 large sack (20 lbs) WL GS
Slightly Large 40 49 knapsack/rucksack (40 lbs) WL GS
Fairly Large 50 59
Large 60 69
Particularly Large 70 79
Very Large 80 99 small chest (80 lbs) WL GS
Significant 100 119 backpack (100 lbs) WL GS
Exceptional 120 139
Huge 140 159
Incredible 160 179
Enormous 180 199
Gigantic 200 1000 Commonly found boxes from the treasure system
Standard Container Capacity Chart
Description Qty.
one item 1
a couple of items 2
a few items 3
several items 4-6
a number of items 7-9
any number of items 10+

Automated Deepening Certificates

At the June 2017 run of Return to Delirium Manor, certificates were introduced to automate the deepening of a container with a variety of how much the certificate would deepen and maximum of what it would deepen to. REDEEM NOTE with the ticket with the container in hand to use.

These certificates or notes cannot be used to take an item above its maximum capacity. However, sometimes an item whose ANALYZE says the item's pockets "could not possibly get any deeper" can still be deepened with a deepening certificate or note.

If a container is set to hold 1 item, a deepening certificate will not change that capacity; it will always hold only 1 item. If a container is non-functional, it's possible that using a certificate will force the item to become functional.

Most similar deepening notes can be bundled and can form a stack of up to 100 notes. PULL to remove a single-use note from the stack.

Examples

a light pink note
>read my note
In the Common language, it reads:
This note can be REDEEMed to increase an appropriate item's capacity by 10 pounds up to a maximum of:

Back and shoulder containers: 160 pounds
Slung on shoulder containers: 70 pounds
Torso, attached to belt, and front containers: 50 pounds

NOTE: If your item's capacity limit is lower than the service amount, the item is ineligible.

Tiny and extremely tiny containers are also ineligible for use with this note.
a stack of light pink notes
>read my note
In the Common language, it reads:
This notes can be REDEEMed to increase an appropriate item's capacity by 10 pounds up to a maximum of:

Back and shoulder containers: 160 pounds
Slung on shoulder containers: 70 pounds
Torso, attached to belt, and front containers: 50 pounds

NOTE: If your item's capacity limit is lower than the service amount, the item is ineligible.

Tiny and extremely tiny containers are also ineligible for use with this notes.

This notes has 32 uses.  PULL the notes to remove a single-use note from the bundle
Note Deepen amount Capacity Limit by container type
a vivid gold note (jackpot) 100 lbs Back and shoulder containers: 200 pounds
Slung on shoulder containers: 100 pounds
Torso, attached to belt, and front containers: 60 pounds
a bright gold note (jackpot) 100 lbs Back and shoulder containers: 180 pounds
Slung on shoulder containers: 80 pounds
Torso, attached to belt, and front containers: 60 pounds
a light gold note (jackpot) 100 lbs Back and shoulder containers: 160 pounds
Slung on shoulder containers: 70 pounds
Torso, attached to belt, and front containers: 50 pounds
a bright crimson note (jackpot) 50 lbs Back and shoulder containers: 180 pounds
Slung on shoulder containers: 80 pounds
Torso, attached to belt, and front containers: 60 pounds
a faded crimson note (jackpot) 50 lbs Back and shoulder containers: 140 pounds
Slung on shoulder containers: 60 pounds
Torso, attached to belt, and front containers: 40 pounds
a vivid viridian note 30 lbs Back and shoulder containers: 200 pounds
Slung on shoulder containers: 100 pounds
Torso, attached to belt, and front containers: 60 pounds
a bright viridian note 30 lbs Back and shoulder containers: 180 pounds
Slung on shoulder containers: 80 pounds
Torso, attached to belt, and front containers: 60 pounds
a light viridian note 30 lbs Back and shoulder containers: 160 pounds
Slung on shoulder containers: 70 pounds
Torso, attached to belt, and front containers: 50 pounds
a pale viridian note 30 lbs Back and shoulder containers: 140 pounds
Slung on shoulder containers: 60 pounds
Torso, attached to belt, and front containers: 40 pounds
a vivid blue note 25 lbs Back and shoulder containers: 200 pounds
Slung on shoulder containers: 100 pounds
Torso, attached to belt, and front containers: 60 pounds
a bright blue note 25 lbs Back and shoulder containers: 180 pounds
Slung on shoulder containers: 80 pounds
Torso, attached to belt, and front containers: 60 pounds
a light blue note 25 lbs Back and shoulder containers: 160 pounds
Slung on shoulder containers: 70 pounds
Torso, attached to belt, and front containers: 50 pounds
a pale blue note 25 lbs Back and shoulder containers: 140 pounds
Slung on shoulder containers: 60 pounds
Torso, attached to belt, and front containers: 40 pounds
a vivid pink note 10 lbs Back and shoulder containers: 200 pounds
Slung on shoulder containers: 100 pounds
Torso, attached to belt, and front containers: 60 pounds
a bright pink note 10 lbs Back and shoulder containers: 180 pounds
Slung on shoulder containers: 80 pounds
Torso, attached to belt, and front containers: 60 pounds
a light pink note 10 lbs Back and shoulder containers: 160 pounds
Slung on shoulder containers: 70 pounds
Torso, attached to belt, and front containers: 50 pounds
a pale pink note 10 lbs Back and shoulder containers: 140 pounds
Slung on shoulder containers: 60 pounds
Torso, attached to belt, and front containers: 40 pounds
a hazy indigo note 3 lbs Back and shoulder containers: 200 pounds
Slung on shoulder containers: 100 pounds
Torso, attached to belt, and front containers: 60 pounds
a faded indigo note 2 lbs Back and shoulder containers: 200 pounds
Slung on shoulder containers: 100 pounds
Torso, attached to belt, and front containers: 60 pounds


Denied Scripts

The following list is provided by GM Haliste. Do not request these items for the certificates again; they are denied for both lightening and deepening, as applicable. The "Clarifying Description" column is a simple description of the item, in case the GM name is different from how players refer to it, or the item does not have its own page. All other items the certificates do not work with can be BUGITEMed (the item, not the certificate) to request review.

Item (GM Name) Clarifying Description
Armor concealing garments
BodiceBlades Vanishing Point
Disarming Kits Locksmith's toolkit
Dwarffest shields Shields with built-in sheaths
Feature concealers (pin worn)
Gem-eater Eisenrucks
Morphing containers Containers with different "sides" that have to be lightened/deepened individually
SimpleBooks Books with a pocket
Smuggling sacks
SwordBelts Dual-scabbard two weapon sword belt
Toasting Steins
Weight reducing containers Takes a % of encumbrance off the contents
WoundedWear
Magical armoire
FireworksPress
DollTrunk
SnowPouch
Gemcutter
FancySheath
GearLabel Box
JewelryBox
Treasure System Containers Treasure system boxes. Clothing works fine
UAC (Handwrap/Footwrap) Gear
DaggerHarness EG05
JewelryBox (Spitfire)
FancyBooks
The Ribbonator
WandsOnly
FoldingChair
Wavedancer (Tintrel) Towels
Mechanical Cartridge Vambraces
Cigar Slings

See Also