Gswiki:Requests

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Please place new requests at the top of the list, so they are easily visible. Thanks!

This is the page to request something for or about the GemStone IV Wiki. Possible requests might be for particular articles or for someone to copyedit or wikify an article that doesn't look very good. If you work on a request, don't erase it, just respond to it, like follows:

Charge Item (example)

Could someone write an article on Charge Item? Ildran 02:18, 3 January 2006 (CST)

Here you go: Charge Item (517). Does that answer whatever questions you might have on it? Ildran 02:18, 3 January 2006 (CST)

Yep, thanks! Ildran 02:18, 3 January 2006 (CST)

That will make it so that people can see what's happened with their request a few days or weeks later, whenever they get around to checking on it. Please make sure to sign your request by putting four tildes after it like this: ~~~~.

Request List

Warrior Guild Location Pages

It seems that every profession guild with skills except for the Warrior Guild has individual location articles that include the shop inventory(ies), map, and any quirks. Pages should be titled "Warrior Guild (Location)". Thanks! VANKRASN39 (talk) 22:32, 15 September 2017 (CDT)

Adding prices and INSPECT info to NPC Shop inventory

I'm wondering if it's possible to add this info over time? I for one try to make use of NPC shops in each town when there's a gear or clothing need I have and I can't find anything for sale in player shops or elsewhere that fulfills that need. But it would be extremely useful to have at least the pricing and INSPECT info on items on the wiki before I make the trip to a certain town to buy an item. I would be happy to help with this project. I don't necessarily want to update the wiki itself, but if I could provide the info to someone else that is good at editing the wiki, I'd be happy to help.KCOX (talk) 12:55, 5 September 2017 (CDT)

My main goal was to get the items listed as there are an extraordinary number of shops. There were some existing shop pages before most of the shops were added, and I believe none of that information, if it was current, was removed. Sometimes it was left up even if the information wasn't current because the main goal was to list the items. An example is here: Etaenia's Jewels. Here's an example of where it was updated: Cypress Sundries. It's possible to add the more detailed information over time, but besides certain things like seasonal inventory, I'm not actively seeking to work on those pages (but someone else might, feel free to jump in with ideas).

If you want to organize the information in some way that is not updating the articles, an idea is for you to leave comma separated values on the respective Talk pages for each shop. Even in one big wall of text is fine, I can work with that and show others how to if needed. You can use any word processing software and your information would look like this (with the applicable values completed from the 2nd row on):

Order #,Item Description,Price,Location,Capacity,Weight,Special Ability
1,Item 1,price,location,capacity,weight,special ability
2,Item 2,price,location,capacity,weight,special ability
3,Item 3,price,location,capacity,weight,special ability
etc

What I'm definitely not going to do is read through someone's logs and pick the info out one data point at a time. If someone is looking for a scripting project to provide the info above more expeditiously, this would be a good one and would be a nice complement to the Festshop script. VANKRASN39 (talk) 16:12, 5 September 2017 (CDT)

Oh, certainly, I wouldn't just send logs. I'd do the work myself and at the very least post the comma separated values to the Talk pages. I'll hold off for now to see if anyone decides to jump in with a script like you mentioned, as that would obviously be the most efficient way to go.KCOX (talk) 21:38, 5 September 2017 (CDT)

TEXT VS. TABLE, meaning, "Shop's Original Plain Text Menu" vs. "Table With Additional Information About Shop Items" -- both are helpful to me as a gswiki user, can we keep both?

Two polar opposite examples of what is not as helpful to me: Island_Boutique (ONLY plain text), and Cypress Sundries (ONLY a table).

One example of what is extremely helpful to me: Flashfeet's_Fine_Fashions (has BOTH plain text AND a table with helpful extra information).

Although, as a side note, the FORMAT of Cypress Sundries may be more helpful than that of Flashfeet's Fine Fashions because it provides each item's information on a single table row, rather than making the user have to read through special notes above the table. However, Cypress Sundries does not list the item number for each item, which I wish it did, if it is going to remain Table-only.

I can name dozens of times just this year when I really needed that plain text shop inventory, for various reasons, scripting projects, etc. I sure do hope that it remains "OK" to incorporate BOTH on the gswiki pages, and that the plain text menu does not have to disappear once a table is introduced, because imo it is NOT duplication of information, at least not in a traditional sense, because the plain text is useful for script developers and there are a lot of us who develop our own scripts. However, having the additional info in a table definitely is a benefit. I have been hesitant to re-add the plain text to a page such as Cypress Sundries, because I don't want to introduce new redundancies that have previously been removed, without a concensus that it is ok to do so. Any opinions on this? Thanks! HARTSONG (talk) 14:12, 22 May 2019 (CDT)

Converting creature pages

Old creature pages still use the old creature templates and should be updated into the redesigned 2 series templates. These new templates are annotated with full instructions and should replace the corresponding older creature templates with the same name, and whatever information that is in the old templates should be transferred as appropriate into the new templates. See Help:Creatures for full instructions on new creature pages. See the list of pages for a list of pages to do. VANKRASN39 (talk) 15:02, 10 October 2016 (CDT)

Are growing pains still growing pains?

I'm sure we can agree that those pages have probably been updated a bit, and there may be another alternative task we can ask editors to work on. Just don't know if we need/want that on the front page, as it doesn't appear maintained. Would rather reference people here! HJELTE (talk) 13:31, 26 September 2016 (CDT)

I brought it up with Staff early on and was told to leave them the way they were and Staff would think on it but never came back with an answer. Now that moderators have been given considerably more power to update the front page, we can discuss changing it and get the code ready, although I'd still run it by Wyrom for approval. Do you have any proposals on what to change it to? Do we want to emphasize the Style Guide, which is still a work in progress, but slowly getting there? There's this page, the GSWiki Help page, and the Village Pump as well. Maybe focus on how to wiki vs. specific articles but link to stubs category? VANKRASN39 (talk) 17:43, 28 September 2016 (CDT)

Style guide is definitely helpful... I know I needed to dig for a lot of templates for some of the updates I've been making recently. A daunting task to any potential new editor! But even just a link to HERE where we're REALLY documenting growing pains in a more collaborative effort may be a good bet as well... Or maybe it's already linked on the front page... I dunno... HJELTE (talk) 08:06, 29 September 2016 (CDT)

I've updated the Growing Pains section with recently nominated articles. I plan to add another "How to" section once the pages it would point to are more up to date (including this one). VANKRASN39 (talk) 15:02, 10 October 2016 (CDT)

Character Pictures

Could someone create a repository page for holding character pictures?

It would be even better if this page were viewable as thumbnail type pictures. It would be even better if the character list automatically referenced their picture, and if the repository of pictures linked to the characters wiki-page.

CLUNK24963 18:22, 24 September 2016 (CDT)

"Automatically" doesn't really happen much around here. Creating bots is something that has been brought up with staff, I'm not sure if this would be a good application for one though. Someone could set labeled section transclusion (LST) tags around images on applicable character pages and pull them into a table that way so that they'll change automatically when the image on the page does, or someone could set up a simple table like the one on my user page of all thumbnails. However, linking to an article from an image cannot be used with thumbnails using an Image link, all sizes would have to be set manually. The image map tag is an alternative, but I've never worked with that before and that capability doesn't seem to be installed (I tested). Also, placing an LST section within a link does not work (I tried [[Abrimel|{{#section:Abrimel|image}}]] on a sandbox page). VANKRASN39 (talk) 12:21, 26 September 2016 (CDT)

A gallery page by itself wouldn't be hard to create (use the gallery tag as described on Wikipedia) but I feel that character pages should be solely authored by their players and getting permission from everyone to excerpt commissioned pictures might not be viable. We could do better in making the character pages easier to navigate and add to, though that's a separate request. ZHOUY1 (talk) 19:40, 7 February 2017 (CST)

More details on how this might be automated: if Properties functionality can be fixed then inline queries can be used to create a table for "player character pages with a displayable image". The functionality is enabled on the DR wiki so it ought to be possible to get it to work here. ZHOUY1 (talk) 16:10, 13 February 2017 (CST)

CMAN Roundtime

Currently there is no listed information on combat maneuver speeds. It would be useful for players to know that Feint always takes 3 seconds to execute, Charge takes 9 seconds plus/minus modifiers, and so on, especially since CMAN points are hard to migrate. ZHOUY1 (talk) 16:38, 15 January 2016 (CST)

I don't disagree, the info should prob be added to the Combat Maneuver template (info boxes). Messaging on all CMANs would be nice, too. I think editors tend to play magic users, so physical combat pages are definitely lacking in quality compared to spell pages. VANKRASN39 (talk) 16:46, 15 January 2016 (CST)

I main a warrior, and my buddy mains a rogue. I'll try to get to it some day, but it's nowhere near priority #1 for me. PFLATS (talk) 23:36, 30 January 2016 (CST)

Thanks for adding these. I created an editing category Category:Pages needing attention to keep track of the pages that have yet to be updated. ZHOUY1 (talk) 13:43, 2 February 2016 (CST)

There are 4 left that no one seems to know anything about. Propose putting roundtime=? and removing the category from the template. VANKRASN39 (talk) 12:53, 4 April 2016 (CDT)

Please leave them, it makes it easier on me to remember which ones still need to be done. I can take care of Mystic Strike and Spell Cleave in the coming month. No promises on the two rogue-only ones. I might be able to get my buddy to help, but I doubt it; he doesn't really have CM points to spare. Maybe I'll make a F2P rogue to try them out. PFLATS (talk) 07:21, 5 April 2016 (CDT)

Two down. Yay migration. Will get to rogue eventually. PFLATS (talk) 13:07, 13 April 2016 (CDT)

Spell Usage Sections

With the changes to INCANT, which are currently spelled out here, pretty much every single usage section on every single spell page needs to be updated, or the Usage section needs to be added, or we need to do something else, ideas welcome. VANKRASN39 (talk) 19:59, 21 September 2015 (CDT)

It is probably not necessary to have a usage section for every single spell, only those with special syntax. ZHOUY1 (talk) 13:33, 29 September 2015 (CDT)

I used to agree, but after thinking about it further and as more oddball spells have been released, I think that low level spells in all cast-able circles should all get a usage section as newer players get introduced to the minutiae of spell casting. VANKRASN39 (talk) 13:48, 29 September 2015 (CDT)

As casting has gotten more and more intricate as time has passed (we are now channeling evoked spells), I've gone ahead and started setting up templates for different options, and have gotten a positive response from the general population that they are helpful. They are in Category: Spell Templates and all begin with Usage. Most of them have instructions and copy/paste code. I'll finish that soon hopefully, along with the rest of the needed templates. I would love some help applying them to the various spells. VANKRASN39 (talk) 14:56, 20 January 2016 (CST)

Completed Requests

Horizontal lists

Request to add the horizontal list style into MediaWiki:Common.css as described at: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Snippets/Horizontal_lists ZHOUY1 (talk) 14:55, 6 June 2017 (CDT)

Fwded to Ixix and Wyrom. VANKRASN39 (talk) 16:25, 6 June 2017 (CDT)

I added these styles in - please let me know if they don't work out for whatever reason! GS4-IXIX (talk) 17:12, 6 June 2017 (CDT)

They are working fine, thanks! ZHOUY1 (talk) 13:44, 14 June 2017 (CDT)

Recent Vaalor storyline

Would anyone like to write up a synopsis of the recent "Ties That Bind" storyline while it's still fresh on people's minds? I looked over the official posts but some of the background about events from many years ago was hard to follow. ZHOUY1 (talk) 02:07, 22 February 2017 (CST)

Thanks, Z, I swear I was making my way to it :) VANKRASN39 (talk) 14:13, 14 June 2017 (CDT)

View counter

The page view counter seems to have been removed from the bottom of the pages with the recent update, any chance this can be added back in? It's interesting (and sometime surprising) to see what interests others about GS. OM1E5GA (talk) 14:01, 25 August 2016 (CDT)

I agree, it was extremely useful, and it's been brought up with Wyrom and onsite by both me and Doug since the upgrade. VANKRASN39 (talk) 14:15, 25 August 2016 (CDT)

My guides were usually towards the top 20... I loved seeing those metrics... But also helps us pinpoint our work efforts! HJELTE (talk) 08:07, 29 September 2016 (CDT)

Unfortunately the hit counters will not be returning. DOUG and I did what we could. I will move this to completed or some other "can't accommodate" space after some amount of time. VANKRASN39 (talk) 18:41, 9 October 2016 (CDT)

Ebon Gate 2015 shops quick project

This is a priority project up to Oct. 14. I was hoping to do this with a bot, but that will not be possible. In order to use EG shop pages from year to year, the 2015 listing must be converted to use labeled section transclusions (a new feature installed in 2016).

Two tags need to be placed on each page:

1. <section begin=2015 />

at the beginning of the page, this needs to be on its own line or the header won't transclude correctly

2. <section end=2015 />

at the end of the page

List of pages:

EGShop pages

Except for:

EGShop:The Affluent

EGShop:The Skeptic (these two shop pages were merged with inventory found elsewhere from 2011 and have already been done)

If you work on it at all, please go down the list in order so I can see where you left off. I will update the EG 2015 shop listing page when all shop pages have been done. Thanks! VANKRASN39 (talk) 15:02, 10 October 2016 (CDT)

Made it through the A-shops, will try to get a larger chunk tomorrow. HATESHI (talk) 21:19, 10 October 2016 (CDT)

Update completed through the F-shops. HATESHI (talk) 09:18, 11 October 2016 (CDT)

Done through O. VANKRASN39 (talk) 12:17, 11 October 2016 (CDT)

All shops completed, excluding The Affluent and The Skeptic. HATESHI (talk) 18:47, 11 October 2016 (CDT)

Math (TeX)

The editing bar has a link to insert math equations, but the <math> tag to parse TeX doesn't seem to actually be implemented. I'd gladly go through and TeX up the more mechanical articles if this were enabled. (see: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Enable_TeX) PFLATS 18:57, 22 June 2010 (EDT)

If anyone has some articles with funky math that they want prettified, let me know and I'll get on it. Otherwise, I'll do them as I see them. PFLATS (talk) 11:56, 13 August 2015 (CDT)

Moved back to Request list from Completed, because it's definitely not completed. $\mathrm {RSN} =\sum _{t=1}^{\infty }{\frac {1}{t}}$ PFLATS (talk) 13:44, 6 March 2016 (CST)

Whoa! And on a day I'm actually writing TeX anyway. Yay? $x{\frac {\partial ^{2}u}{\partial x^{2}}}-y{\frac {\partial ^{2}u}{\partial x\partial y}}+{\frac {\partial u}{\partial x}}=0.$ PFLATS (talk) 21:14, 15 August 2016 (CDT)

Featured Article On Front Page

Since we're in a new year, the Featured Article preview text should probably be updated to state that HSN was for last year (2015). As it currently reads, it could come across as saying that we'll be having yet another HSN this year (2016). CLTIDBALL (talk) 10:47, 4 April 2016 (CDT)

I agree, is there a particular article you'd like to see featured? Scribes and/or Wyrom need to approve it. VANKRASN39 (talk) 11:36, 4 April 2016 (CDT)

Nothing in specific for what I'd like to see, though perhaps featuring the CHE article could be good. CLTIDBALL (talk) 17:36, 4 April 2016 (CDT)

CHE and MHO front page article is up. I received permission to change it. I might change it for Duskruin next week (how does that sound?), but as CHEs and MHOs are eternal, we can always go back to them. VANKRASN39 (talk) 11:46, 12 April 2016 (CDT)

The CHE/MHO article looks good, and changing it to feature Duskruin while the grounds are open makes perfect sense to me. Thanks Allereli! CLTIDBALL (talk) 12:04, 12 April 2016 (CDT)

TOC limit

Request for anyone who has access to MediaWiki:Common.css to add the following:

.toclimit-2 .toclevel-1 ul,
.toclimit-3 .toclevel-2 ul,
.toclimit-4 .toclevel-3 ul,
.toclimit-5 .toclevel-4 ul,
.toclimit-6 .toclevel-5 ul,
.toclimit-7 .toclevel-6 ul {
    display: none;
}

I believe this should then allow editors to use a template to specify the depth of an article's table of contents. (See Wikipedia documentation at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:TOC_limit) ZHOUY1 (talk) 13:46, 25 February 2016 (CST)

• This should be all set now, but please let me know if you experience otherwise! GS4-IXIX (talk) 07:52, 5 March 2016 (CST)

Padding/Weighting Tables

Last week Wyrom stated on the officials that the padding/weighting tables were wrong for amounts greater than very heavily. I have updated the three pages where the charts appear (critical weighting, damage weighting and padding) with Wyrom's statement to warn readers, but the work to make the charts correct will have to fall to someone else. VANKRASN39 15:42, 22 July 2014 (EDT)

UDF in the Creature Template

Would be nice to have this info, which I can start to populate. VERSIN (talk) 11:17, 5 February 2016 (CST)

It can already be added in the creature ability section. From giant rat: {{creature ability|[[UAC]] |+32 [[UDF]]}}. Is that what you're looking for? VANKRASN39 (talk) 11:52, 5 February 2016 (CST)

Yes thanks! VERSIN (talk) 13:26, 5 February 2016 (CST)

Cone Of Elements-Vacuum (Air Lore) DF

Has anyone been working on calculating the DF for this new attack? I've been curious on it's effectiveness. Thyson

From the CoE page: "A unique vacuum based bolt is used for air. This bolt uses the same damage table (damage factors and AvDs) as Hurl Boulder (510)." I added this into the chart on the page: "See Hurl Boulder (510) for DF and AvD info." Does this satisfy your request? VANKRASN39 (talk) 11:45, 27 October 2015 (CDT)

New Weapon Alternate Names Redirects

Each of the new alternate weapons names needs a new redirect page going to the respective base weapon page (for example, balta redirects to handaxe). The list of weapons is beneath the armor chart, which I already added. Alternate names of weapons have already been added to each weapon page, so that part is done, just the redirects are needed. These redirects are especially helpful at festivals when GMs like to release items with obscure nouns. VANKRASN39 (talk) 18:03, 14 September 2015 (CDT)

Upload Official Images

Simu's official images for the professions [1] and races [2] would make good additions, but they have not yet been uploaded here. I am not sure on the current policy for which parts of the official site are fine to copy over and who has permission. ZHOUY1 (talk) 12:57, 26 June 2015 (CDT)

I gave Scribes a heads up about your request since I was in the middle of emailing him anyway. VANKRASN39 (talk) 13:17, 26 June 2015 (CDT)

Playing the Summon Scribes card always works! I don't see a problem with uploading any of the images from play.net onto the site, though obviously, if they belong on a protected page, you would need to contact me or another admin to edit the article accordingly. In terms of pages, since I've kind of been the leading GM on this, I think it's fine if you want to republish the play.net pages onto the wiki that I have not had a chance to do. Then just let me know when you're done and I'll look over them to double check everything is kosher and slap 'em with the Protected status. I do think there may be multiple opportunities to collapse multiple pages into one page, etc, but I'd like to see all of the play.net pages recreated before we start reorganizing things and what not.

So feel free to upload the play.net images (try to keep the image names, that way we should hopefully prevent anyone else coming along and uploading them and not realizing it's a duplication). Feel free to republish a play.net page on the wiki and send it to me for approval and protection. Make sense?GS4-SCRIBES (talk) 13:23, 26 June 2015 (CDT)

So in other words, the images should not be added to the current profession pages and should be saved for the Profession (official) pages? Assuming that is how those pages will be labeled. I would hate to see the current articles lose their places as the play.net pages are lacking in the detail that people want when they come to the wiki. VANKRASN39 (talk) 13:30, 26 June 2015 (CDT)

No, the images definitely can be used for any appropriate pages. In terms of information provided for wiki users, I think it's probably important, if not efficient, to maintain what Simu officially has stated about professions, versus what players have provided. It's not that the player content is erroneous, but it's more important to have the ability to have that official page as a location for the official stuffs without making players try and parse things. The merging of the wiki with the documentation from website pages is still a new process and we can always worry about consolidation in the future. So long as we're not uploading multiple versions of the same image, it doesn't really matter if the images are reused on different pages.GS4-SCRIBES (talk) 14:09, 26 June 2015 (CDT)

Links to Officials Folders

Super fun project: add the link to the appropriate Officials message board folder at the bottom of pages (the view folder page, not any specific post). I've done it for all the more recent events pages. I don't think they need to go on individual spell pages, but definitely the spell base pages. Two benefits to this: no more navigating the Officials and hopefully more people will be encouraged to participate in discussions or ask questions in the appropriate place (i.e. ask a question where a GM can respond). I've also been combining all the links into one section titled "Resources" since most of the "External Links" are not exactly external anymore. I don't use References because References is its own wiki function. Input always welcome. VANKRASN39 (talk) 16:15, 12 June 2015 (CDT)

Hearthstone Manor

I completed what is available in Prime for the Legends Bar names, does someone who plays Plat want to add the corresponding chart? VANKRASN39 (talk) 00:38, 6 January 2015 (CST)

The chart for Platinum has been added. DRUNKTANK (talk) 06:10, 13 January 2015 (CST)

Awesome, thanks! (moved section to below outstanding requests) VANKRASN39 (talk) 09:48, 13 January 2015 (CST)

Wild dog

In Mark and my discussion and work on the creature families, I discovered that wild dog does not have a creature page. VANKRASN39 (talk) 10:54, 7 January 2015 (CST)

I have the page setup if anyone can verify that there is such a creature. Should be located in Sylvarraend Road area (Orcswold) but it isn't shown on Tsoran's map. There is a wild hound (level 31) in the official bestiary with the same level, description and location as the wild dog. Neither creature is shown on Tsoran's map and there are no entries in the wild hound page in the wiki. Mark (talk) 11:44, 7 January 2015 (CST)

I am almost certain that wild dogs are in fact the same creatures as the mongrel wolfhounds already listed. The dogs/hounds in the Orcswold can appear with a variety of different adjectives and nouns, but all of them have the same DESCRIBE appearance, like this one that I saw today from a "black wild dog" which matches the description on the mongrel page -- "The large canine is obviously closely related to his domestic cousins, but his vicious growl and the feral gleam in his intelligent eyes speak of his far wilder nature. Ticks and burs speckle his matted, dusty fur, and his wolflike tail sweeps from side to side as he prepares to spring on his intended prey." LUSCINIA (talk) 23:08, 26 February 2015 (CST)

See Also

• Krakiipedia Requests Archive