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'''Spellburst''' is a balancing mechanic for higher level hunting areas to manage the amount of outside spells a character can wear in the areas that Spellburst effects. Those areas are the Keen, including Wyneb Temple (Skull temple), Old Ta'Faendryl, and the [[Ruined Temple]] (Nelemar) on Teras. Failure to observe this feature can result in outside spells being violently torn from the player, causing HP and critical damage, and possibly resulting in the character's death. Training in magical skills will help to increase the amount of outside spells a character can safely wear in a spellburst environment.
{{TOCright}}'''Spellburst''' is a balancing mechanic for higher level hunting areas to manage the amount of outside spells a character can wear in the affected areas. Spellburst penalizes characters under the effects of too many beneficial spells outside of their profession's spell circles, causing [[hitpoint]] and [[critical]] damage or even death.


{| {{prettytable}}
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The following formula seems to be accurate up to half your level in wearable outside mana. It is well known that the current formula goes bogus once the result is over half your level in wearable mana.
|-bgcolor=lightblue
!Area Name||Level<br>Start||Level<br>End
|-style="vertical-align:top;"
| [[:Category:Griffin's Keen creatures | Griffin's Keen]] || 64 || 73
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| [[:Category:Temple Wyneb creatures | Temple Wyneb]] || 66 || 77
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| [[:Category:Old Ta'Faendryl creatures | Old Ta'Faendryl]] || 82 || 102
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| [[:Category:Ruined Temple creatures | Ruined Temple/Nelemar]] || 92 || 105
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| [[:Category:Sanctum creatures | Sanctum]] || 96 || 102
|}

==Player Research==
:<small>This section is what players have been using for years until a better description is provided. For additional research that incorporates usage with the ;burst_calc Lich script, see [[Research:Spellburst|here]]</small>

Training in magical skills will help to increase the amount of outside spells a character can safely wear in a spellburst environment:

{| {{prettytable}}
|-bgcolor=lightblue
!All Ranks Benefit||Half of Ranks Benefit
|-style="vertical-align:top;"
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*[[Arcane Symbols]] (AS)
*[[Magic Item Use]] (MIU)
*[[Harness Power]] (HP)
*[[Spell Aiming]] (SA)
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*[[Mana Control]]s
*[[Lore]]s
|}
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The following formula seems to be accurate up to half one's level in wearable outside mana. This formula goes is not accurate once the result is over half one's level in wearable mana.


All values are Skill RANKS, not Skill BONUS.
All values are Skill RANKS, not Skill BONUS.


<div {{prettydiv|margin-right=350px}}><center><tt>'''Wearable mana = [(AS + MIU + HP + SA) + 0.5(Controls + lores)] / (225.0 / level)'''</tt></center></div>
{{Equation box|1=Wearable Mana = ((AS + MIU + HP + SA) + 0.5(Mana Controls + Lores)) / (225.0 / level)}}


Worn mana should be calculatd as follows:
Worn mana should be calculated as follows:
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*No known spells will be counted toward the worn mana total.

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:Example: A locksmith rogue who learned up to [[Disarm Enhancement (404)]] will not be penalized for wearing that spell or the lower 3 spells ([[401]], [[402]], and [[403]]) in a spellburst area.
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*No known spells will be counted toward your worn mana total.
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:Example: A locksmith rogue who learned locklore and traplore will not be penalized for wearing [[401]], [[402]], [[403]], or [[404]] in a spellburst area.


*Learnable spells have their mana values halved for spellburst calculations.
*Learnable spells have their mana values halved for spellburst calculations.
:Example: Our locksmith rogue with self-cast lores has recieved some guards. (spell [[414]]) Since the 400s circle is learnable by rogues, the spell value of [[414]] for the rogue is 7 mana.
:Example: Our locksmith rogue with self-cast lores has received some guards. (spell [[414]]) Since the 400s circle is learnable by rogues, the spell value of [[414]] for the rogue is 7 mana.


*Certain spells are weighted heavier than other spells. For instance, elemental spells seem to burst 0.5 mana sooner than spiritual spells. Spells with a spellburst mana cost of 9+ seem to be extra volitile as well. Examples are strength, blurs, mobiles, bravery, heroism.
*Certain spells are weighted heavier than other spells. For instance, elemental spells seem to burst 0.5 mana sooner than spiritual spells. Spells with a spellburst mana cost of 9+ seem to be extra volatile as well. Examples are [[Strength]], [[Mass Blur]], [[Mobility]], [[Bravery]], [[Heroism]].


*GROUP and [[1700s|ARCANE]] spells do NOT count toward spellburst. Mass spells, however, do count for spellburst. Also, offensive spells that show up in the SPELL ACTIVE list do not count toward spellburst. The following is a list of spells known to show up in the SPELL ACTIVE list that do not count toward spellburst.
*[[:Category: Group Spells|GROUP]] and [[1700s|ARCANE]] spells do NOT count toward spellburst. [[Mass spells]], however, do count for spellburst. Also, offensive spells that show up in the SPELL ACTIVE list do not count toward spellburst. The following is a list of spells known to show up in the SPELL ACTIVE list that do not count toward spellburst.


:[[201]], [[210]], [[212]], [[214]], [[216]], [[307]], [[310]], [[311]], [[316]], [[412]], [[413]], [[501]], [[504]], [[607]], [[703]], [[706]], [[713]], [[715]], [[716]], [[1001]], [[1005]], [[1015]], [[1016]], [[1117]], [[1120]], [[1125]], [[1605]], [[1609]], [[1617]], [[1618]],
:[[201]], [[210]], [[212]], [[214]], [[216]], [[307]], [[310]], [[311]], [[316]], [[412]], [[413]], [[501]], [[504]], [[607]], [[703]], [[706]], [[713]], [[715]], [[716]], [[735]], [[1001]], [[1005]], [[1015]], [[1016]], [[1117]], [[1120]], [[1125]], [[1605]], [[1609]], [[1617]], [[1618]]


==Sample Calculation==
===Sample Calculation===


Level 75, rogue, 24 AS, 24 MIU, 31 HP, 20 SMC, 20 EMC ranks, knows to spell [[404]].
Level 75, rogue, 24 AS, 24 MIU, 31 HP, 20 SMC, 20 EMC ranks, knows to spell [[404]].
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Let's assume we are dealing with the initial skills set of the level 75 rogue with 4 minor elemental ranks. The wearable outside mana came to be 33. It is important to manage what spells fill that 33 mana, as some spells are quite costly with minimal benefits. Since both the 100s and 400s circles are learnable by the rogue, it's probably best to add those spells first. [[101]], [[103]], [[107]], [[406]], [[414]]. Those spells, all combined have a mana value of 31, 15.5 when halved. Subtract that from the initial 33 total, and we have 17.5 mana to add. If you have 601, 202, 503, 509, that's a quick 15 mana, leaving 2.5 extra wearable mana as a buffer, which is good.
Let's assume we are dealing with the initial skills set of the level 75 rogue with 4 minor elemental ranks. The wearable outside mana came to be 33. It is important to manage what spells fill that 33 mana, as some spells are quite costly with minimal benefits. Since both the 100s and 400s circles are learnable by the rogue, it's probably best to add those spells first. [[101]], [[103]], [[107]], [[406]], [[414]]. Those spells, all combined have a mana value of 31, 15.5 when halved. Subtract that from the initial 33 total, and we have 17.5 mana to add. If you have 601, 202, 503, 509, that's a quick 15 mana, leaving 2.5 extra wearable mana as a buffer, which is good.


==Conclusion==
===Conclusion===
In closing: The information above is as accurate and simply put as I can give it. There are some gray areas in the research, and the formula, and in how to calculate each individual spell value. Spells that constantly cause oddities for me were [[509]], [[911]], [[215]], [[211]], [[219]], [[618]], [[313]], [[913]], [[513]], off the top of my head. Simply adding 0.5 mana to their base value seemed to help remedy some of the problems with the calculations. Good luck! Burst less!
In closing: The information above is as accurate and simply put as I can give it. There are some gray areas in the research, and the formula, and in how to calculate each individual spell value. Spells that constantly cause oddities for me were [[509]], [[911]], [[215]], [[211]], [[219]], [[618]], [[313]], [[913]], [[513]], off the top of my head. Simply adding 0.5 mana to their base value seemed to help remedy some of the problems with the calculations. Good luck! Burst less!


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==See Also==
==See Also==
*[[Arcane Circle (saved posts)]]
*[[Arcane/saved posts#Spellburst|Arcane saved posts]]
*[[Research:Spellburst]]

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?71205-SPELLBURST-revisited-again
*[http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?71205-SPELLBURST-revisited-again Spellburst PC thread]

== 2016 Update ==

Note that this section is identical with the '''Summary and Conclusion''' section of my research on the discussion page. Refer to the discussion page for details.

For what follows I will only deal with ;burst_calc mana. My initial attempts using the wiki formula were needlessly confusing and I assume that anyone trying to use my research as a guide will rely on ;burst_calc instead of manual calculations anyway. When I refer to "limit" mana and "current" mana I am referring to the two sections of the ;burst_calc readout by the same names. Because I wear a few enhancives that impact the spell burst calculation my advice is to add 0.5 limit mana to each of the thresholds described below. While I was able to increase my limit mana in 0.5 mana increments, because of the limited number of spells that have +0.5 current mana added to their actual mana cost in the ;burst_calc formula, I decided to add outside spells in 1 current mana increments.

When I began my testing I had 57 limit mana, however I was only able to wear outside spells totaling 47 current mana without bursting. I added skills such that I increased my limit mana in 0.5 mana increments until I reached 61.5 limit mana. I was unable to wear any additional outside spells until I reached 61.5 limit mana. Once I reached 61.5 limit mana I was able to wear additional outside spells totaling 69.5 current mana without bursting. I added skills such that I increased my limit mana in 0.5 mana increments until I reached 76 limit mana. I was unable to wear any additional outside spells until I reached 76 limit mana. Once I reached 76 limit mana I was able to wear additional outside up to 85 current mana without bursting. In all cases, adding even a single additional current mana resulted in spell burst.

Based on the foregoing, I believe that spell burst wearable mana beyond 1/2 of level is explained as a series of discrete thresholds. At no time in my research did I observe any gradual increase in wearable mana.

I found three thresholds:

47 current mana - presumably the result of the linear increase in wearable mana described by Gib in his original research

69.5 current mana - unlocked upon reaching 61.5 limit mana

85 current mana - unlocked upon reaching 76 limit mana

Since my research was conducted using a 7.7M EXP half-elf paladin I am not in a position to search for the next threshold, but I feel comfortable concluding that there are more thresholds. I take no position on the accuracy of ;burst_calc or Gib's research more broadly. If nothing else, ;burst_calc is an adequate tool to measure spell burst thresholds and, barring some unforeseen racial or professional component, can be used by anyone to implement my research.


[[User:MICHN18|MICHN18]] ([[User talk:MICHN18|talk]]) 12:48, 8 January 2016 (CST)


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Spellburst is a balancing mechanic for higher level hunting areas to manage the amount of outside spells a character can wear in the affected areas. Spellburst penalizes characters under the effects of too many beneficial spells outside of their profession's spell circles, causing hitpoint and critical damage or even death.

Area Name Level
Start		 Level
End
Griffin's Keen 64 73
Temple Wyneb 66 77
Old Ta'Faendryl 82 102
Ruined Temple/Nelemar 92 105
Sanctum 96 102

Player Research

This section is what players have been using for years until a better description is provided. For additional research that incorporates usage with the ;burst_calc Lich script, see here

Training in magical skills will help to increase the amount of outside spells a character can safely wear in a spellburst environment:

All Ranks Benefit Half of Ranks Benefit

The following formula seems to be accurate up to half one's level in wearable outside mana. This formula goes is not accurate once the result is over half one's level in wearable mana.

All values are Skill RANKS, not Skill BONUS.

Wearable Mana = ((AS + MIU + HP + SA) + 0.5(Mana Controls + Lores)) / (225.0 / level)

Worn mana should be calculated as follows:

  • No known spells will be counted toward the worn mana total.
Example: A locksmith rogue who learned up to Disarm Enhancement (404) will not be penalized for wearing that spell or the lower 3 spells (401, 402, and 403) in a spellburst area.
  • Learnable spells have their mana values halved for spellburst calculations.
Example: Our locksmith rogue with self-cast lores has received some guards. (spell 414) Since the 400s circle is learnable by rogues, the spell value of 414 for the rogue is 7 mana.
  • Certain spells are weighted heavier than other spells. For instance, elemental spells seem to burst 0.5 mana sooner than spiritual spells. Spells with a spellburst mana cost of 9+ seem to be extra volatile as well. Examples are Strength, Mass Blur, Mobility, Bravery, Heroism.
  • GROUP and ARCANE spells do NOT count toward spellburst. Mass spells, however, do count for spellburst. Also, offensive spells that show up in the SPELL ACTIVE list do not count toward spellburst. The following is a list of spells known to show up in the SPELL ACTIVE list that do not count toward spellburst.
201, 210, 212, 214, 216, 307, 310, 311, 316, 412, 413, 501, 504, 607, 703, 706, 713, 715, 716, 735, 1001, 1005, 1015, 1016, 1117, 1120, 1125, 1605, 1609, 1617, 1618

Sample Calculation

Level 75, rogue, 24 AS, 24 MIU, 31 HP, 20 SMC, 20 EMC ranks, knows to spell 404.

In order to determine the wearable mana of this rogue, we plug the numbers into the formula.

((24 + 24 + 31) + 0.5(20 + 20))/(225 / 75)
(79 + 20) / 3.0
99 / 3.0 = 33.0 wearable mana.

  • I intentionally selected a skill/level set that would generate an end result that is less than half the level in wearable mana.

Assume once that that same level 75 rogue had... 30 AS, 30 MIU, 40 HP, 20 SMC, 20 EMC ranks... the formula would generate 40 wearable mana. At level 75, the formula is only accurate up to about 37.5 mana, so that "extra" 2.5 mana is really more like... 1 mana. I haven't gathered enough data to actually crack the next step.

Assume this rogue capped without gaining any relative magical skills....

The initial skill set...

((24 + 24 + 31) + 0.5*(20 + 20))/(225 / 100) = 49.5 wearable mana.

The secondary skill set...

((30 + 30 + 40) + 0.5*(20 + 20))/(225 / 100) = 60 wearable mana.

The initial skill set generates a value lower than half the level in wearable mana, while the second generates a value more than half the level of the character. That said, the wearable mana is probably more like, 52 wearable mana. Again, I just haven't been able to solve the next step of the formula.

Let's assume we are dealing with the initial skills set of the level 75 rogue with 4 minor elemental ranks. The wearable outside mana came to be 33. It is important to manage what spells fill that 33 mana, as some spells are quite costly with minimal benefits. Since both the 100s and 400s circles are learnable by the rogue, it's probably best to add those spells first. 101, 103, 107, 406, 414. Those spells, all combined have a mana value of 31, 15.5 when halved. Subtract that from the initial 33 total, and we have 17.5 mana to add. If you have 601, 202, 503, 509, that's a quick 15 mana, leaving 2.5 extra wearable mana as a buffer, which is good.

Conclusion

In closing: The information above is as accurate and simply put as I can give it. There are some gray areas in the research, and the formula, and in how to calculate each individual spell value. Spells that constantly cause oddities for me were 509, 911, 215, 211, 219, 618, 313, 913, 513, off the top of my head. Simply adding 0.5 mana to their base value seemed to help remedy some of the problems with the calculations. Good luck! Burst less!

Information and testing provided by Gibreficul.

See Also

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